Because we have a pretty full program. On behalf of myself, if my cochair, kevin were also, thank you all for your your support and for your being here today to honor three phenomenal women for your their service for your our country and for your their contributions to National Security. We all know that with more women at the top, and more women at the table, better policies made. It fosters global democracy gender equality, and peace. That is our goal here and that is what we do best. I would like to acknowledge our diplomatic colleagues who are here, both americans who have served abroad, ambassador nurses will as foreign ambassadors who are here today. Could we get all of the ambassadors and the deputy chief of admissions just to stay on for your a second. [applause] you all have been critical from our mission from the beginning and we really appreciate your support. I would also like to thank current and former Board Members including our founder and president meredith at ellis who is here today. [applause] can you all stay on for your a second. Can we get the board to stay on quickly. We couldnt do any of this that went out you. [applause] and leslie thank you to our executive director rules altogether, and are Program AssistantMegan Darlington and all of the interns and volunteers who help today. [applause] i would like to see a brief word about generalists and we are fortunate today to have two very Accomplished Women moderating our conversations. They have, been supportive and gave us our expertise and moderated in figure programming better from the getgo. Recently we have seen what is happening on the country. It is troubling times for your generalists. There are threatened everywhere and are just really holding the government accountable and now we see this happening in our country. This reverberates globally. So on behalf of the organization, we would like to thank all journalists for your what we do. [applause] and tilting just a quick pitch, if you are not a member, we hope you will consider it. Its a great Interesting Group of people. We do a lot of wonderful programming. We are mentoring the next generation. I like to turn things over now to Board Members christy rogers, it was chaired this event. We are so grateful to her. Shes worked so hard. Lets give her hand. She was taken from here. [applause] do you need to truly come up here. Ive been called many things but thats a one of them. But thank you for your that lois. I am kristi rogers, good afternoon and happy december. Can you believe it. I cant. Im stuck on the fourth of july still. So i know its happening. I hope everybody had a wonderful thanksgiving and enjoyed family and friends for your your dog or cat, or yourself. Just had time to yourself. Because we all do have something to be thankful for your even in these chaotic times. I truly want to thank you all for your being here today because i know how busy each and every one of you are. I want to for your your efforts and everything you do whether it is big and small to actually help this world be a better place. I know that sounds cheesy, but this world can use all the helping get right now. Ament brent dyke. Amen. As we all know, when we open up the newspaper, when we turn the cable news, we see that the United States and the world, are facing challenging times. Dangerous uncertainties and shifting alliances. Energy crises that are striking at the coronations. These perilous challenges range from escalating proxy wars. Increasing election meddling, growing Nuclear Threat from rogue states. All of the way through to if that wasnt enough, precisely and rapidly transforming cyber threats. Not just from criminals and organize crime from nationstate. They dont just affect our National Security but they affect each and every one of us sitting here today. How to protect and secure and store our own data. So today, as we begin the program, we actually have three stellar National Security leaders who are going to help us walk through these challenges. Sue susan and andrea. [laughter] some just going to walk through the show a little bit. First we are going to have a panel, moderated by hell live bo miller, it was a fellow board member. Also, the New York TimesWashington Bureau chief, she has had a stellar career with the New York Times, and she has covered the pentagon, also covered the white house, and then when she was with the washington post, she served in new delhi and around the world so hell live has also had a stellar career. Hell live is going to be engaging in a discussion with suited susan gordon, small recently retired director of National Intelligence and also undersecretary of state for your arms control and interNational Security of andrea nelson. We all want to engage each and every one of you. We dont want just talking as a peer. Were going to take questions from the audience. There are pads of and pens at each table. We know this group has brought shy. Say of your questions, write them legibly with your name on it, and then with your hand and one of our fabulous volunteers will come around and read the card and it will be called to ask you questions. Well have microphones in the audience. One of the program. And i have to put my on, it is terrible. I didnt have to use to do this. I dont know if im ten years ago. [laughter] is terrible. Im just going to jump right in and introduce the two incredible brawl models we have today. I will hold the introduction for your susan later. But first we got, Deputy Director of National Intelligence according as i mentioned. As he recently retired from the dni in august. I say it was a collective gasp, not just across the Intelligence Community but across washington dc when she sat down. She is incredibly incredible and incredibly well respected across the Intelligence Community. She been surfing in the National Security across aic in multiple disciplines. For your nearly three decades. Our leadership knowledge and ability to collaborate with others is unparalleled. She will be greatly missed in the brawl. Next we have state departments undersecretary arms control interNational Security, andrea thompson. Andrea thompson also has served in the Public Sector and National Security for your note nearly three decades and like me, these two started when they were 12. Mac is unlike most of you right. Prior to this brawl is undersecretary, andrea served in the white house, she was Deputy Assistant to the president and he was National Security advisor to the Vice President and prior to that she its been over 25 years in the military surfing in iraq and bosnia, afghanistan and was the j2, which is intelligence director in afghanistan. As state department, she helped diplomatic policies for the notices on the world leading meeting with leaders in various countries and traveling the globe nonstop. Everything from emerging technologies to cyber emerging threats. Some of that, im going to turn it over to hell live. Thank you very much and hope you all enjoy your lunch. [applause] thank you kristi. Thank you all for your coming. And especially to sue and andrea. We have it exactly a off an hour. Which means learning to be dealing with capabilities and intelligence in the trunk white house, though i dont have a lot of time. So im going to do about ten minutes brief. Then i will open it up to your questions. Please have your questions ready. We start off with right off, so, you briefed president trump, who was famously doesnt read a lot of his briefings, he prefers signs but toward spring also have a very complicated exit from the trumpet ministration. I would like you to talk again what it was like facing the president , how you did it and how much of the information and. [inaudible conversation] is that better. [background sounds] i will talk loud. Is that better now. No pets on. Great, so i will shout. In your exit from the white house. Hell live i had the greatest job ever. Intelligence is a lovely, you just have to pursue the truth as hard as you can. And then represent an then policy can be formed so all give three things to see but this president for your others the three are the same are everyone who have i have read are different. Some people, president obama, and birch graciously, jfk wanted five cars in his pocket. So the notion that were going to have someone different who your briefing, you have to figure out a way to get the information. Ultimately thats what you do. You are trying to present information in a way that you can hear and then use it. The other thing that the intelligence is massively inconvenient. It actually typically field some of the decision space of the present. So you are walking in there, making things difficult because of what you are presenting. You are limiting the choices because once it is hard, there is nothing different with this president. It is a foundational piece of the morning. As a foundational piece of meanings whether that was 20 years ago or now. The third thing every president s who i have interviewed, have wished that i could see something that you cant. Like some piece of trace existence would allow you to justify to see it. Whats different about this president. Number one is he is the first in my experience there is no Foundational Framework to understand what is in the limits of intelligence are, what the purpose was, in the way that we discussed it. I do a lot of sports analogies. Like paying pickup possible with one person. Everybody else knows how the game moves. In one person comes in and places just different than that in and of itself, yes different questions. People should be different. He has different trusts. Because he is probably the first president that are broad with no framework. In a world that has massively available information. Infinite amount of people with a lot of information to give. But they dont have the same standards. Any super because he is much more economic in the way that he sees the world in the Intelligence Community traditionally is much more political and military. Purposefully so. So we were scrambling a bit to try and produce an intelligence that was foundational he useful. For your someone who is interested in making deals. And to be able to explain how we see the world when we were all the same so that other people can see it. So same and different. I found him actually, that of a fun brief. Because it was in iraq visiting with people and again because the world of intelligence is insight, you cant wish that the participant was different. Your challenge is to present in a way that can be heard. So thats something. I say everybody who was in the oval office with this president was a thats true. Can you hear me now. What kind of questions we ask, and this aware question but how long was the briefing. Have a long how the last pre disconnect different times depending on the day. I do say that would surprise any of you that it was different on different days. We would typically brief on two or three times a week. Will started out with presenting a set of intelligence that we thought were either relevant to what he was doing or need it to be heard. And i somewhere between 30 minutes and an hour would be typical. And questions you would ask for your an example . Im sorry i just havent thought about that one. I would see tumor varieties, one end of the district. [laughter] remember intelligence, is fundamentally a craft of uncertainty and a possibility. It is trying to catch up to how you would adjudicate the sources that learning to believe that. And i respond to it. Someone is, im not sure i believe that. And the other one is, second and third order. And why is that true, why was he there. Why did he do that. Those sorts of things. And again, disproportionate with a economic event to it. [laughter] a better exit. What do you know about it. Laughing [laughter] snickering background. On the simplest loophole, the president who appointed me to the position of Principal Deputy which is the seniormost career intelligence advisor. Ultimately decided that he was not comfortable with me. Continuing as the acting director when then stepped down and there was a gap. And for the third kid of a naval officer who threw the whole career professed that she was simply a steward of the community and not the community itself, and you give the president the space. [laughter] i say is wrong. Yes. [laughter] [laughter] [applause] wenzhou. But i say on the simplest loophole once he decided then because we believe is the strength in that community and you can go in and care inc. And this one its all in. Andrea, [applause] the president has talked with vladimir putin, but an obstacle treaty. He said i have to see this, about an hour ago. I must make a deal on arms control, rest once a big deal as recently as two weeks ago. Will also certainly be in china. May bring them in layer when they bring that out. What is he talking about. [laughter] and why his he staying that china is excited to join in. Im sure, you just expand on that. The refreshing thing about being secretaries and dont have to follow my twitter feed. What if it happened the last hour, no one probably heard the room. But on that, i did work that in the state department. We have been in discussions with russian counterpart. Multiple times to modernize our arms control agreement and again, it is better section for your about another hour on by the inf treaty. To modernize and the systems that klezmer food and says that he is already built during the process of building and testing. So you have those discussions. With russian counterparts and to modernize arms control treaties to reflect what is the current state. The violations from the past to a ministrations has continued. We have collaboration and consult consultation with her l. A. And were all in agreement that we need to avoid the reality it is today. Those discussions are ongoing. We also need to have the systems be part of the treaties. I left the department about six weeks ago. What is happening the last two weeks, i wasnt talking that but it can tell you what i did during my year plus as undersecretary than previous to that is the National Security advisor for the Vice President. China less optimistic. Ive met with my chinese counterparts. In the construct of the piece, in the construct of the mpc, less so arms control across the table. I embraced it with my chinese counterparts multiple times. If you want to be an responsible after you need to be at the table having discussions and they were not interested. In my personal assessment now is the plain old taxpayer, as theres not much incentive for your china to come to the table. Spectrum keeps talking about it in one of my colleagues says that three to 400 Nuclear Weapons are encouraging them to go more build more. For your those know me and heard me see again and again, this is diplomacy and it will end with this small public diplomacy. And that is talking to one another. If you are not having those discussions, we will never have an armscontrol treaty with china. If we dont address it. Whenever have a safer and secure world if we dont address it. I hope it continues to talk about it. It needs to be discussed. We are not in a good place with what our chinese counterparts are doing with their weapon systems in the policies as many of you are experts in the field in this room. I hope he does continue to talk about it. As i hope the women in this the women and the men in this room continue to talk about it. A new cold war Nuclear Weapons, do you see that as the case and is there any way to arrest it. I disagree with that assessment. I say its a bumper sticker. The abodes well for your media sites and for your abundance. What i would see is that we have a different paradigm in technology. We talked about this as well. With technology, being integrated at a more rapid pace. So theres an armscontrol race, and processes as peers are as adversaries are. So that is changing. What used to take generations or years and years, now can happen in months. And maybe a year. I say that is what is happening. The technology is expanding and it mucks much greater rate. Were talking about the importance of the foundational alliances that we have new alliances. That is something that i say we need to talk about more with the agility of our system. Well talk more about that in this afternoon and with china as a whole and with countries and systems. In a not staying we need to do with the chinese way, i am staying that we need more agile in her system. As you are partners. And we about that. How do we do that. Theres a Public Sector and private sector. There is much to gain. Sue, you are a at the cia during the russia investigation. So do you have any doubt that it was russia and not ukraine interfered in the 2016 election print. I say thats important because i wasnt part of it. I say the Intelligent Community assessment on russia interference in the election, was an exceptionally good piece of an analysis and decision to make it public. It was one of the best and most transformative decisions that the intelligent screening may because what we did was we talked about an issue of historic adversaries using a new modality in a longstanding policy of society and what we did was by sharing it openly, we allowed the popular and private sectors to and what they were facing. I dont say anything is happening the last last two and half years since it was released. No conclusion. Now others recognized that it can be used for your in order to affect national interest. But dont say weve seen anything that can be assessed. How much you read or do you say can happen in the 2020 election. Because the making us not believe in ourselves. Fundamental increase society of people to believe that their vote matters. It is perhaps one of the greatest threats but there is. We this is concerning and because information moves at a pace and as such a volume, and we dont have any mechanism to deal with it. Its going to be discerning. The distance that we have traveled in 2016 now but in 2018 to now, and getting state and local governments to understand it, and what is happened to dhs in order to be really engaged with what is happening the private sector, gives me great hope. That we are much better prepared. This will also always be a threat service. We will have to Pay Attention to it. Back to trump. He has this inherent distrust for the Intelligence Community. We see that for your three years now. Why. Im not sure im going to agree with the premise of that. I say we have so long this conversation we can talk through the whole range of issues that the nation has address i can tell you and i will tell you that intelligence is been the bedrock loophole of a lot of things. Of those issues. And the president has received that information on china. I say this president has taken intelligence from china and use it to better effect than any president. I say the russian interference, the way that it has played out and what he infers its implications as to the legitimacy of his position, is what causes that to be a hot issue. But dont take away that the president doesnt listen to the law of intelligence in general. That is a trust issue. His difference means that he has to work harder to adjudicate the difference between what the Intelligence Community is la them and others who art seemed like they are in the same domain tell him. [inaudible conversation] going back to cyber. When you are on the phone, you mentioned the bureau and cyber security, not the state department but it is a drop in the bucket compared to the Cyber Command at the pentagon. What is the reason the state department and set cyber security. The country needs the bureau is the short answered. Many diplomatic policy discussions. Has brought the pentagon, cinematic cyber discussions and ai discussions in quantum discussions, or what the state department does. Its not new. We have a professional Civil Service and Foreign Service ranks it is been doing that now lives across different sections of the state department and were the first things they did is the raised with the secretary and said again this is foundational to what we do. Whether it is discussions with nato, here at home as a framework of emerging technologies. And in technology we are behind. When i go to australia, across the globe, other countries are already doing this. Answered yes to stay on up and what is look like. Belated out, how many people in vases, functions, folks in the room, engaged in the industry and engaged with the chamber and hell. Engage with partners, we design it, we work through it, we visited congressional location, and it has been there since. But we do talk to folks, all my gosh we need this. So if you are in the room and you have [applause] with in the house of Foreign Affairs committee, it is that important. With the functions of it and the leaders who are doing it, and we have a list of discussions, on current events. We are traveling the globe. Getting with partners and allies. We bring companies into your networks, primary leak chinese comics. You have vulnerabilities. Its interagency, not just the state department. It will have the Intelligence Community. But we are having country to country diplomatic discussions, that is holy for the on the purview of the state department. We have done the work. The people are there, when he talked about the next generation of leaders, we recognize they want to serve in a diplomatic community. They are passionate about technology. This is the perfect stamper enough talk to leaders in Silicon Valley were disturbing how do we get these relationships and fellowships we come from a tech company for your a year. We hope to view some exposure of policy and you help us with the technical piece in return. That is all global. We started a fellowship panelist. Jasons team over there, we have georgetown fellow who will be working ai at the state department and then returned. Thats an agility and modernization of our policies and we need to get it done. Own as to more questions. Then i have more questions here. At the edge of 28, you are in a situation George Hw Bush and ronald reagan, about the soviet capability. Due to the crowd how you got there at that edge. The fact how you do it. First to join. I would see it best first five years, best ten years, and anyones career in National Security. When the purpose is great until you carry more responsibility in your prayers. So my colleagues, while i was reading the president , they were working on a bushing in general. Just carrying responsibility out. We do get there, you take the job and your card but you nose down, your excellent or within the parameters of excellence. And when your moment comes, you do a good job. You know its interesting as i was thinking about this, is the 28 yearold stay on in front of president reagan. And president reagan, Vice President bush, he was whos who around the table. And they didnt ask very difficult questions. Just a different modality. They would ask why it was on soviets faced with so much more robust and somewhat stronger. In the u. S. Space program. So why did we have the same thing. So the way you get there, because you come into this community and you learn to carry the weight of responsibility and you are surrounded in a community that values expertise. So they sent the right person not the right loophole. And then you understand the problem that you are addressing. Were enormous. His stomach now. [laughter] no i was so nervous. If you want to save for your someone who was in the less complicated circumstance in a word that seems to have gone crazy. This seems to be as hyper ponderous in chip and irresponsibility. When i see to you, that this is the best place to be. And it is. Maybe nobody is going to be there for your 40 years anymore. I dont know the soy. National security is more inapt net. The man that feeling of great purpose and weight of responsibility is the great way to grow up. [applause] i dont know what you were doing a 28 but it was important because im looking at this biography here and you are all over the world. So how did you do this. I echo what my good friend just said. When yasser would she was when she was in 20. Military intelligence soldiers in washington. If ive done my math correctly. No specific. Physical service. Do you want to be in the military. His is that what you want is the family history. I was a journalist major. I played basketball. And then the military science class because it was a free elective. There is nothing about the military. And then they asked me if i wanted to refill off the library at homecoming. I said yes amen. [applause] so im surrounded with people that i was learning from. People that i respected. People that i wanted to be like when i grew up. I thought okay, during all join the army go to youre up and intelligence and so we can, work hard and beef with good people. It is my mom said, i say its the tenure mark. My mom asked me if i was reenlisting. And i said yes, im in for the long haul. And i had fun. Personally and professionally everyday. Call the service. I did not see out the job with the Vice President. I get called by Vice President. I had retired in october 31st of 15. And i retired from 28 years in the army. And then got a call in a better homeroom of new friends. [laughter] i told my husband, amigo into an interview. Peers will be very happy. It would be working for the Vice President of the nazis. And they offer me the job in peru. You never know when that call is can happen. I know i wanted to be around people who i learn from. Have fun doing it and work hard. In this fashion. And so we want to be. Its a call to service. This help my family interprets it. I have been asked by my country to serve again and i will see yes. Thank you. [applause] will ask you a question and tweet. Can you give us a snapshot of the uprising of a run did. What is donald trump actually want in a deal. Is the sustainable. Maximum pressure has economic has seen the results of that. I can tell you this has brought the former secretary but maybe the former Intelligence Office and regime. It is a brute intelligent resume. None of the powers of the people, we do not want a nuclear iran. He said, whatever comes to this, a deal, but at the end of the day, the pressure is having some effect. But we do not want a nuclear. Last year i was lucky to organize. Next year ill be returning. Security situation. What is your best advice. For your young professional women who do working environments is challenging security issues. Understand what you are walking into. And if it feels wrong, it probably is. If it feels wrong. [laughter] i would see, you are going to go into the circumstance, no structure around it, so you are going to want to understand the structure as you go into it. But on a personal loophole, anytime you go into a difficult circumstance, just be aware of your surroundings. If something goes wrong, it probably is pretty. Being 23 or 24 years old, lt. , if it feels wrong, it probably is. That is great parity. Great advice. One of the busiest is self awareness, know your strengths and weaknesses. And back to mentorship, fits into an area, the colonel going into iraq or afghanistan, you dont know everything. See out the folks around you and again, know where you are strong but nowhere you need work and see out help. News very when asked each other. [laughter] best day in a job. Oh my weve god. Shockingly brilliant career. I guess the first answered that comes to mind is the first is the right answered. One of the best days was in australia and again through mentorship and technology. I was asked to come to a wifi camp. The estonia, actually georgia, u. S. , and apologize, five countries, 16 and 17 and two weeks of public and private up industry. Decoding and building grounds, networking across and to sit in that room. I face timed my husband that night and he goes, i dont know what you did at work today, but you are just beaming. And i said i sat in the classroom with the next generation of global leaders. And i felt like part of me had given back but it probably got more than i gave that day. Your mistake. Every day when i remembered when i got to see a sentence. When i was in the oval office talking to the president. [laughter] i see that because i never try to forget what i got to be a part of and to serve the naval officer with a degree in zoology, happen it to the asset moma and carries the hopes and dreams of the community, id never and every time he remembered that i can see that, it was my very best day. Thank you to both of you. [applause] [background sounds] cspan2 News Washington journal, live every day, with news and policy issues that impact you. Thursday morning, will speak with members of congress about the top judiciary inquiry hearings. During the program, congressman michael burgess, mike kelly, massachusetts congresswoman, maryland congressman Anthony Brown and oklahoma kevin hers. Be sure to watch cspan2 News Washington journal. Life on thursday morning. When the discussion. For your campaign 2020 this weekend we are live in iowa. Following the democratic president ial candidates. 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