Lets welcome him on the stage. [applause] good evening. Thank you for being here, we are very excited at the conversation you are about to see. Not just because its on other celebration or successful book fair that miamidade book fair put on every year but its rare to have professionals with the type of firsthand knowledge that they bring to this discussion shared with you and have the opportunity to engage. Rest assured theres going to be an opportunity for all of you to ask questions of our panelists but we thank you for being here and with that, let me introduce the first of our authors this evening. Josh campbell is a correspondent for cnn and prior to joining the network, he did a very distinguished tenure at the federal bureau of investigation where he served as a special assistant fbi director james comey, hes worked with former special counsel on fbi director robert malik and hes the author of the brandnew book, crossfire hurricane inside Donald Trumps work on the fbi, lets give a warm welcome to Josh Campbell. [applause] our next author is also an alumni of the fbi and also the Central Intelligence agency but most important to those here in the room, hes a 305 till you die kind of guy because philip is actually native, he went to school down here, hes also the author of the book back site, the cia and the post 9 11. [applause] and last but by no means, by no means least, a man whos taken on the legendary persona, you see him up and down the Cable Television ill offering his clues to the world, more than anything else, a navy chief and a proud one at that, the author of New York Times bestselling books including his latest, the plot to betray america, how trump embraced our enemies, compromise our security and how we can fix it. Welcome to the stage, malcolm. [cheering] s. [cheering] thats what we call bipartisan cooperation. We got to get another one. I think theres one missing. Having said that, gentlemen, theres a tremendous amount of interest in your books and i think part of the reason why is not just because of the information you offer to the country and the globe but this backdrop of strange times that i dont think anyone would argue we are living in. Josh, i would like to start with you first, crossfire hurricane, your book the curtain on a lot of people wondering what was going on within the fbi and preludes of the 2016 election and aftermath that culminated in the dismissal of your boss, comey. Whats the number one most Important Message you are hoping readers of your book come away with in writing this . Thanks to all of you for being here, one thank you may not know, we know youre out there but we never get to see you. As we stare into this camera so the best part for me is doing the book tours and interacting with people and see people who care about these important issues. To answer your question thank you. The take away from this book is that there are real consequences to Public Safety when any elective leader tries to destroy the reputations of Law Enforcement and Intelligence Community agencies. Weve seen over the course of a moment investigation since the beginning of the russia investigation that not every agency has operated one 100 correctly. There have been issues that the department of justice Inspector General has found but in the agencies staffed with patriots who go to work every day, trying to protect this nation from external threat. Mac thank you. So what i fear and the purpose of writing this book is happy American People actually start to believe this nonsense, these agencies are filled with corrupt stake, im to get any elective leader, how many people will lose confidence in the answer to that require this in order to do their work . I try to take you behind the scenes as an agency tries to grapple with something, i was having People Associated with president ial campaign under investigation with ties to a foreign adversary. It might have been an ultimate title because thats the center of the storm you had to endure both as professional and Central Intelligence and later on during Deputy Director but you wrote your book, the cia and the post 9 11 work to address the controversies around the enhanced interrogation program. Again, so much passionate debate on both sides of the issue, what was your message you wanted to convey to your readers and your book . I witnessed the Senate Report not very positively, but by the way im not happy to be there, i would prefer to be out on south beach. [laughter] the answer is, we dont usually tell you the truth. But id rather not be here. I witnessed this and ive heard a lot of people attack their american right, people on a different side of the political spectrum say you represented our interest after 9 11, you saved us. Neither side on the conservative and liberal side was able to talk to the 35 or 40 people i spoke with, most of whom will never speak to you and say the book is not meant to be defensive of what many people hate, thats what the cia did to detainees. Its meant to say if you want to live our life so you understand why it happened, you might have ammunition to say thats fine, you might have ammunition to say i think what you did was right for you all to live the life you live to at least say if i want to attack what they did or supported, i have an understanding of 17 years ago to understand what people like me live through so you can understand on either side why we did what we did. Thats it. Bill talked about trying to explain the past, your trilogy of books has predicted events that have become transpired directly supported by the futu future. In your book, the plot betray america. You sounded the warning in july 2016 as it unfolding in real time and a lot of people wanted to dismiss the at the time, they thought it might happen a little fear mongering and yet i think there. That out. What is the message of the plot to betray america . What should americans and people of good faith be taking away from your book . First, let me pause my two colleagues here on the stage. I read both of their books, i love crossfire hurricane. I then fbi story. [laughter] youre sitting in there, going meeting to meeting, why are we being attacked . You prattvilles story, which i was involved with because i had testified about all of these things. We are in this secure site and stuff, we have no windows in there. We rarely use the televisions, we are doing whatever it is we do and guys like this whether its counterterrorism, they have a perspective you cant have. You have to appreciate if they did something good, you will never learn about it. If you do something bad, you will probably learn about it. Its the good that they do, its the people who fill out travel claims and issue your checks and do all the things that many of us would think of as thankless, you cant think them. You will never go into the buildings and you will never be around them and watch these people try to struggle with the popcorn machine at 1 00 a. M. When theyre watching activities in the middle of the night because daytime in the middle east. They have thankless lives. They are the true patriots of this nation who they defend us all. It offends me [applause] it offends me even though i have fought my entire career for the right, american citizens, i have defended against terrorists to say any stupid things that comes to your mind. Thats your right but thats why i reelect the terrace. They will take that away from you. Those two books were brilliant and that let me to my book which was finally writing about russian intelligence activity russian measures, how putin is essentially taking over europe to democracy. Hes destroy democracy by getting government to vote themselves out of power, to vote in and we have been attacked so my book was designed to give you a warning about the very people that right now are deep in the impeachment. The difference is, none of us here on this stage who have written books are journalists. We are intelligence professionals, National Security professionals and we write to inform you. Thats all i do in my book and my favorite chapter of that book is the good guys lose. Guys like Josh Campbell and call me in all of them are trying to help this nation in decent manner with what has happened and now we have 40 of this country who will believe every word out of the mouths of the National Counterterrorism syndrome, you wont believe anything we believe but we can tell you youve been attacked by russia and the attack is ongoing and continuous in all of u. S. Intelligence moves it, you call people like that conspiracy theorist. The Conspiracy Theory is you will not believe what is before your own eyes and thats all i have done in that book, teach you what you actually see before your own eyes before fox news grabs you. [applause] it seems that we find ourselves in, you cannot do an event without breaking news happening in real time. As we took to the stage, a Major Development happened and if i werent home, i would turn on the television and look for commentary. I have the ability to do that in real time now but the Washington Post is reporting, so those of you unaware, the chief of the pentagon has asked for the resignation of the secretary of the navy amid the controversy over the navy seal explosion. Malcolm is our navy man on the panel, should we be concerned . I will keep this short. As the navy chief, i get very upset. This morning i did a segment where i spoke as a chief from the chief from a long family of navy chief. Are they out of their minds . The secretary of the navy does serve the pleasure of the u. S. But he has a good order and discipline of every sailor down there and when he makes a decision for the commander of special warfare makes a decision that someone should not be entitled to their work perfect or whatever, the president of the u. S. Needs to stay out of navy business. [applause] he had his chance five times to serve this nation and he cowered it out and got out of it. [applause] the president of the u. S. Right now has damaged good order and discipline and even though the secretary of the navy said he didnt make that statement about thinking of resigning, they should have set that out loud and probably. They have every sailor in this country and every soldier was thinking i can commit more crime and if trump gets me up, i can get away with it. [applause] this is for phil and josh you want me to follow that . [laughter] both of you served again under dual bipartisan administrations, republican president s or democratic and the word unprecedented overused a lot these days. From your perspective, have you ever seen anything like this where the president of the u. S. Will go out and attack the integrity of institutions designed to protect the American People in your case, the ci of your investigation. I served from 85 to 2010, five president s, i think the opportunity is to take you to the water cooler and offer you not necessarily what i say on tv but a perspective you cant share, i dont remember conversations among colleagues. I spent five years and. I joined at an entry level and finished out the teller, i dont remember that many conversations about what a president did. The president is having this approach to iran or north korea or russia, you might talk about it over cocktails but one way to characterize, to give you a perspective thats a little different than just saying yes, thats a weird time, i dont remember in 25 years, conversation saying, how do we end up saying turkey and egypt and philippians our friends and nato the g7 our enemies . This is not only weird policy, these are people who dont represent American Value and places the filipinos are remembering people without due process and we dont talk about it. Ill have a president i dont have a problem with the president talking about north korea, i do have a problem saying its odd, i never witnessed this in 25 years, to sit back and say why is it that we like people who oppose Democratic Values to the point that they murder the opposition and the people who stood with us to oppose oppression since world war ii and the creation in 1947 are somehow enemies on twitter . That dude is weird. [laughter] [applause] in that spirit, you had a birds eye view of what its like to be on the other side, all of us in this room who havent served in the federal investigation there is this sense that at the end of the day, the adults are charged, theres a plan, a contingency and surely there has to be a scenario where the patriots of the fbi have had to have this scenario plan for the president tax them on a daily basis. Surely that plan exists. The truth is, i dont think it does in the sense that you mentioned before how unprecedented these times are and i dont think we hear that word used a lot but i dont think that is an overstatement because these are unprecedented times in different ways. As a reporter on the panelists, my job is to report on actions and leave the value judgments to our viewers and listeners to make up your mind about what this means but all you have to do is look to the past and compare it to the present. What i did in my book, i went back and looked since watergate, in instances where you had a white house that was in conflict with the department of justice, in doing research for this book, of all the president s since Richard Nixon with the exception of obama, the only president who didnt have someone senior in his white house under investigation by the justice department, there has been instances of conflict between the white house and institutions of justice. You go back from every president except obama since nixon, theyve had special counsel or someone being investigated. We saw especially under president clinton a robust effort, the independent counsel at the time but what you didnt see is any of those instances was an attempt to burn down an entire institution, trying to destroy the credibility of these institutions of justice and the Intelligence Community. It was always offlimits. There was a system of norms in place, so called guardrail you couldnt go this far. Every president , every person in the u. S. Who finds themselves accused of something is entitled to a robust one. Trump is the same. A robust defense. We are now fair game to destroy reputation and credibly ensure political survival which is a dangerous place. The knocks on someones door and they need help investigating. The willingness of that person to help is directly correlated to the agency. Is this an honorable person standing before . I trust them asking for help. They testify that jury, their willingness to believe their view on the agency. Is that present a truthful person from a truthful and trustful agency . This continued erosion will impact all of our impacts in a negative way. I went back and did research looking at polling data and what was fascinating is that if you look at republicans in 2014, a survey of Public Confidence in the fbi and among republicans, the numbers were in the high 70s. The day that number is less than 50 . That tells me people are out there that are leaving this narrative that these agencies are corrupt and that will make us less safe. Whether theres a plan on the shelf that they can deal with, how they grapple with this, its an unprecedented time, they have to deal with this before so i think they are just a shell shock now as the rest of the country when you continue to hear this narrative day in and day out. These agencies are imperfect. I cover them every day as a reporter, my job is to unearth them in the main, which you are being told. You use the word shellshocked in the breaking news broken again. Resignation was asked for, its no turned into a fullblown firing. They are having questionable on the american media. The american Intelligence Community and now its over into the american military. It as anonymous as we think it is . Yes. You have a fullblown one in the white house. You go through policies and you have robust discussion, hes doing topdown fingerpointing. I dont like you, youre fired. Heres a tweet. This man actually refuted what he has said but thats not good enough. I worked against many of these in the world and this reminds me of those trials that they would have for everybody would be sitting there and say gay saddam and they would say theres a traitor in the audience and they would point up there and he would plead for his life and they would be dragged out. This is a malfunction. That is all there is to it. [applause] but that malfunction is the constitutional process. We all defend with our lives. I take this very personally. The constitutional processes we all wheel know and believe in, one cant decided he is king george the fourth. King george the third wasnt good enough. Im waiting for him to start ordering troops into our houses and pay for it. Everything we have known since 1776 is in danger. When you point to a secretary of the navy, yes he served but you should have enough common sense to understand people other have duty to the constitution, to our sailors and soldiers and marines and airmen. When you destroy that by saying im appointing a guy whos convicted of a crime, im giving a convicted war criminal for murder and he gets to go on fox news and lecture all of us. This has destroyed good order. There will be robust debate happening at every level. The chief of Naval Operations right now, they had better decide whether you stand with my navy, you stand in the tradition of John Paul Jones and doc him off the ship and drop your anchors in front of the president and tell him what the navy is about or resign yourself. [applause] shall i come back to you . [laughter] this crisis in a row doesnt seem to be limited to one of the agencies, we just have come off two weeks of an impeachment inquiry where one side tries to make the case for why president ial use of power and high crimes were committed and how that was documented by Public Servants in the federal government. The other side was focused on the whistleblower. A whistleblower that many suspect may have come from one of the intelligence agencies that you pertain to. If you talk to us a bit about what you think the morales in the agency right now when at any moment, someone who risks career and possibly safety is potentially exposed by the president or someone in the administration. I think one of the challenges of what we do for living is to step back and reflect again, in my time in 35 years after i started, i think the story has changed in the past couple of weeks because before the institutional attacks, some in my case, i dont trust the ci says about russia. I dont trust the military, i felt it was extremely embarrassing for the literary officers in uniform. The military is going with plans fast enough. You dont understand what a military plan is. My point is, the institutions were being attacked. What look what has changed. In the case of the cia where i served, theres a threat i dont know who the individual is, i cant confirmed who they worked for, these are news reports say. If youre in the business, nursing if that person has a family and they dont, forget about death fact, i get Death Threats. They have to move. After protect their kids in school, they will get threat death letters for years. The president is putting them at risk. If youre in the business, youre saying this is from institution to personal and to close what hes saying, you understand the president is just attacking military, i was watching and i didnt serve in the military at the time, i testify secretly when i ci hold on, can you keep a secret . When a contractor murdered, what you testified in favor of putting the individual in jail for a long time. First of all the president shouldnt intervene that. He has to worry about other stuff like why north korea hasnt lost an ounce of Nuclear Material despite the fact the president says we are. Why is the president intervening at levels below him . Now its getting personal. Youre telling me that individuals in the military who murdered a detainee is appropriate for you to intervene us, that is murder. Thats not an act of war. I think to translate to a broader audience, what i am seeing at the state department, the president isnt just attacking them, people like me who serve to start to say the president , this is interesting, risky revenge of the nerds. Hes risking people coming out saying its my duty to support, i dont care how many of you elected trump, he is the president. Its my duty to support the man elected by the American People. I dont care if its popular vote or not. We do Electoral College but what hes doing by attacking people by name, forcing people where my old position it to say you cannot do this. Ibm or ford mortar, i must protect my people. A quick followup, not only has a present attacked people by name, youre the only one on this stage he actually has attacked by the. I am so jealous. [laughter] one the is really offensive but first off, what is it like to go through the crucible of having the most powerful man in the world single you out, especially at a time when we have seen our fellow citizens in some cases take two violent attributions . I dont want to get to dramatic, within 72 hours, an individual later arrested making Death Threats within 72 hours of the president threatening, a pipe bomb, he attacked me on twitter. He said i needed to watch my back which i dont do twitter. When where we live in, its a negative tweet, you understand every time you got into a restaurant, every time i walk into the miami book fair, you have to wonder, is this the person . Have a personal relationship with my local police. Meister is sister is here, she doesnt know this. Im sorry. When i call the local police and testify myself, i get prioritized because i get stopped. Some of the stockers have made threats. If the president hasnt responded, whether or not i voted, he does not seem to understand when he threatens people people by name, it lists my life. This is not an everyday promise. But im here to say, i think part of our job is to take you in a different world and give you a perspective in my file, daily hate mail says i have to have a relationship with the Police Department in my town to say if i call you, you need to be here now. Its real and personal. Its everybody in my world. Personal and professional, we sometimes forget these are not faceless bureaucrats. These are american Public Servants and patriots that with all the noise going on around them, they still have to do the job. If josh, you were in the unique position of one day doing your job, discovering your job just like that is over. What does the experience where you are with the director the moment he was fired by the president without any for knowledge, not only for you and the directors state of mind for the morale of the colleagues that stayed behind . What is Something Like that like . If we go back to that day in 2017 when the fbi director found out by watching cnn he was no longer the fbi director, it was a date that set in motion a chain of events inside the fbi was so fascinating is i think everyone on the stage will agree, there are no indispensable people inside the u. S. Government. Everybody who serves, no space you can be replaced but if you leave, the agency continues. All these agencies have been around for hundreds of years and they will continue the mission. The problem that occurs with commies firing, i have to step back a little bit because obviously i work for him as a special assistant, even then i have had lots of conversations. We know and knew at the time that any fbi director could be fired for any reason or no reason at all. The problem is twofold. First, the reason the public was given about why the fbi director was fired was alive. Those of us who care about the truth, we get up every day doing what we do because we care about the public being many belated. We care about the truth being told, these politicians and government in both parties, they have this platform to try to change your mind, your feel. We try to do is provide perspective and say heres what one side is saying. Heres the center of gravity. Commies firing was a campaign of public manipulation. We were told the American People that the reason why President Trump fired james comey was because he was too mean to Hillary Clinton. You go back to that letter given to the public and publicized that he was fired because the panel the way he handled the case and had to go. The American People didnt know at the time that there was this investigation going on and the president asked and demanded loyalty of the fbi director, the American People didnt know is that president sat in the oval office across from the fbi director and asked him to drop an investigation into the president himself would soon go on news and like the whole thing there and say it was the rush i think. The russia things on his mind. Inside the fbi not only were we grappling with the decapitation of the leadership, the director was gone. We knew the reason why he was being fired was because the president was firing the person feeding the investigation into his campaign. Remove the name, the party and the u. S. , its chilling to think republican or democrat were trying to cut these out from Law Enforcement to make an investigation go away. You have two frames of mind. People who highly respect james comey were sad to see him go and fastest not anecdotal. Every year its about your leadership, its anonymous. They understand how they are doing. They were off the charts as far as what people thought of james comey. They agreed with his decisions, i didnt agree with them. He was highly respected so grappling two things at the same time, the dismissal of a leader that was highly respected and grappling with the fact that the American People were being many belated about the reason for the firing. It was so fascinating is that it set in motion a chain of events where the firing of commie, you wouldnt have mueller, human have special counsel laying out all of these instances of the, all of these People Associated with the president going to ja jail, but for the action i firmly believe. They were frustrated at the ti time, its no reason to anger. I talk to people all the time, theyre covering these agencies, they are angry. Theyre angry that they continue to be lied about, they make mistakes. We learned about an official that was fired allegedly for altering something. In the agencies, they are these people in these agencies, its risen to anger. It started with the firing of james comey. If i can make a comment, i think we all see all of us in this room, we see on the state may be a level of anger and sometimes hate universe yet because of social media, the anger that josh talks about that i see in hate mail, you cannot, all of us, you all have children and grandparents, coworkers, all of us live in a toxic environment. You cannot accept at the dinner table at the restaurant from the word that says i hate the president , i hate the fbi, i hate the cia, i dont care which side you are on but when i see people slipping, people who think they are with me walkup in a restaurant and say i hate the president if my answer is, thats not acceptable you dont like him, vote against them but when you contribute to this environment of eight by saying toxicity means i can hate, that is not acceptable. I dont care if it includes the people in this room who dont like the president. We dont hate people. We want him out or we want him in. Im tired of getting emails from people saying i dont know cute but i hate you for what you say. That is unamerican. [applause] this is for all of you, we have all in our own ways, in our professions how to analyze data, intelligence and reports on the basis of data, those behaviors come away with conclusions. I have seen the president of the u. S. Not in one moment or two permits or three with every choice and every decision that Vladimir Putin would want to make instead of the interest of the u. S. And i understand the disturbing implications that analysis leads to, understand it sounded hyperbolic but based not on what we suspect but on what we have seen with our own eyes and heard with our ears, malcolm, josh and phil, is it crazy to believe whether the president of the u. S. Is an accident of Vladimir Putin . [applause] our job is to look at actions and i can tell you having written this book and had the pleasure and honor of traveling to 15 cities across the country, its a question that comes up. People ask, what explains the president s decision as it relates to russia . My journalistic lines, we rule things out. If you look at certain actions taken place, the only thing you have to understand is theres a reason for that. Talk yourself through. I dont care who you voted for but theres a reason why the president of the u. S. Stood next to Vladimir Putin and signed with him over the u. S. Intelligence community. As a reason for that. Dont know what it is yet. You have reporters were working to determine motivations of many different leaders but the one thing that fascinates me if you look at trump all the recent president s in modern american history, his ego is probably the largest and most robust of anyone in the office, he would tell you the same thing. I imagine. He says hes a genius, very comfy mentoring about himself. Its not a criticism. Its important to understand that for this reason. Why would someone with that strong ego stand next to them and seemingly cower . Theres a reason for that. Thats not what people with giant egos do. Im not going down the Conspiracy Theory, what expense acts are right but i will say theres a reason why people look at the Foreign Policy decisions as it relates to russia and run counter to the analysis of the u. S. Intelligence community. Theres a reason why the most powerful person in the world is deciding what that country over these agencies. I have addressed this many times and first off, lets get something off the table. I dont believe trump has signed a contract with Vladimir Putin that says hes an agent of the Russian Federation and he has them coming in from moscow saying donald, i need these tomorrow morning. Thats all the other agents running over there. Thats a technical term, the question on the table is, is he proving beneficial to russia . Is he aware of the benefits that come from his relationship with russia . You dont have to ask any of us that question. I was on page two of the mueller report. He said he was aware that russia was carrying out activities in his interest, hes organized his team and the Trump Campaign to age that material working through news media or wikileaks or roger stone or people going to prison. We are going to use that to benefit, hes still doing it today. Ive said this on the day it happened. When he came out and made his speech that said russia, if youre listening, i want you to release 30,000 Hillary Clinton emails, i believe that day, im pretty sure we have separate russia, i believe he came in, russia was in his court and was going to help him. He expected him to help him, he is now almost confessed he wanted china to do it. He went to ukraine and pretty much blackmailed them and extorted them to try to cheat again in an election in which he cheated before. Therefore, he is an asset of Vladimir Putin. Vladimir putin actually said that, have special Security Services just russias speak for his intelligence agency, he did what donald trump did to be president. Dont ask me, read all the news media that comes out of russia. The only say this man is ours. Hes hours for a reason. The one thing we do within the Intelligence Community, we dont care about who, when, where and how. The question we are all after is why . Why is this behavior occurring . I dont think using an analogy from astra, the black hole. When i see many indicators of intelligence, all client down to a place where there is no answ answer, there is only a black hole of information, then all of those indicators going in there, insulting u. S. Intelligence, getting rid of the fbi director, breaking he did it to russia or blocking u. S. News media, hundreds of indicators all leading to a black hole. I can pretty much figure out whats in that whole because someday we will cross the horizon and we will determine that donald trump in some way, shape or form is in debt to Vladimir Putin. [applause] i dont know what it is, maybe he will get a trump 2. 0 out of it. He thought he would offer Vladimir Putin a 50 million bribe of a penthouse at the top of trump tower moscow. Vladimir putin would own it. He does not see how if he doesnt see how hes been manipulated, that he is being manipulated by teams of intelligence professionals and human intelligence and psychology by Vladimir Putin himself was a former human intelligence officer. They abandon fully functional camps in the russians went in and raised their flag and our position. If it happened at any other point the impeachment wouldve happened within minutes. Brush it now owns our position in syria explain that to me. The y is missing around the black hole of intelligence and the only thing we can do is go through contacts and precedent and say its unprecedented. There is no context. Except the suspicion. This man owes his bookie something and he will never insult his key. See mac. In the remaining minutes we have a microphone if you all had questions please line up behind the microphone centerstage i can imagine that there are many of you i would ask please it seems like there are a lot of questions directed to one of the panel members. Lets go to the first gentleman over there. Thanks to all of you. I note Republican Congress person are afraid of being primary all of them are intelligent enough to know everything that you know and that the millions know. How do you explain is it money from the russians the traitorous behavior of republicans in congress. For those of you who are a certain age my age or older. There was a cartoon way back when called little abner. A mythical place in dogpatch kentucky or Something Like that. And there was an animal there that is imaginary called the schmidt and it would turn into anything you desired to eat if you looked at it hard enough. I think the republicans because of the scarcity of their base that they have better become the schmo. With enough hatred they have better join the trade or not only will they be out of office. I think they always have believed like trump the evidence is there. They were restrained by common decency and comity among american citizens. Right now like phil said. I dont hate donald trump. He sits at the seat of the man. He is not the greatest president in american history. He sits in the chair. They are in lockstep because i think they fundamentally see a different america they head at the fig leaf of the constitution over their desire to have a topdown government. Like a woman said on television earlier this year, i never thought we would like to have a dictator in america but if there has to be one it should be donald trump. Lets go to the next question again. Do you know that russia and china are a threat to america. The man doesnt want to go to work. What is the question. Why the criticism against President Trump. He is afraid of russia and china. Are we just not seen the Bigger Picture is it to bring about peace and stability throughout the world. I wouldnt go to war. Im not sure why they are threatened by china and russia today. Ive a different perspective on why the president operates the way he does. Its the right analysis. They will enter analyze foreign leaders. I can do this in 60 seconds or less. The president says he is genius. He has used that term. These are all threats to his power to do what he thinks is right for him or america. Russia, north korea and egypt. What are the characteristics of every leader in those cases. They all have an approach that says legislature opposition parties members of the opposition in the civilian population they are impeding my ability to do whats best for my country. I think russia in the context of all of these other countries is just another place where he says that is how i should be able to operate. Nobody knows better but i do and all of the people i like they think like i do. The canadians, the french the brits they got it wrong. I have not heard anybody say this, on the news or anywhere i think when trump took out marie in a college she is our asset my question is how long will it take the United States to recover if im correct. On the ambassador, the one overarching question with her dismissal as we continue to watch the scandal play out is how the rationale given for removal does not square with the reason that that white house continues to get. His interests and talk into talking to the president of ukraine about what was going on was because he was interested in rooting out corruption. The problem with that is it is an ambassador whose entire reputation as one base. And she wrangled a lot of people over there throughout her tenure because she was so anticorruption so that is the one thing that doesnt square. If your goal was to really get to the bottom of what was happening with the country. It was such a dog against the corrupt act. I think because the president does not operate on the same system and every other president of the United States works on an as love of country, decency, maintains the ability and advance the american system. He works on the goodfellas system of government. In his world you to go find the corruption you are fired. He thinks like a chief would. When he wrote his book about going after the russian mafia in new york city these guys ran on peer arrogance. Maintaining what Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin started in the state department. Its almost a follow up on his. We have to get everything balance back to where it was in all of these other countries. Would you consider a vp position in the next administration, negative. I dont have an ego like that. I am not qualified i am man enough to say it. Maybe on the intelligence review board. We had time with time for one more question and i want to make a very important closing thought for you all. This is a very quick one. Im very simple question that has not, vietnam the public, the kids, it may change. They force the issue. I dont see tons of millions of people going to washington why is that. I dont have a good answer. He told me that he have to teach his students what a fact was. One of the challenges especially. The white house back in vietnam when we lost walter we lost the war. They are looking at different media sources. Most of them are biased. I think people have different understandings not on facts but on different interpretations. I dont think there is an equal understanding as there was in vietnam. Walter would tell you nobody knows who is gonna tell you today. There is no agreed on fact. The final question for the panel. There is so much noise going out there. Information and news and we are less than a year whether you are for or against the current president and election for american history. What do you think is the one thing that the American Public should be focused on like a dog with a bone between now and election day. Mine is easy that is transparency. Anyone in this room if you were accused of wrongdoing he would move mountains to ensure that anyone that could exonerate you were serve as a witness helpful to you could be heard. Thats what we need to be focused on today. There were certain elements that were trying to obstruct those efforts. Well had to wait and see how transparent people are. I have a very hard time seeing some of the things that are said from one american to the other. I feel like this is the most serious type i was a kid in 1967 sure how bad it was. To me this feels like 1860. Mentally we had trouble because now the information bubble that you were talking about the sphere is like a heart that was beating into steady rhythm. It means shaking uncontrollably out of control. And something is can have to shock us back into the mutual love for this country i dont want to be a terrorist attack i dont want to be some massacre of children. We people right now they say they hate the fbi but you love them when there is a bobbing or shooting enough to understand this nation is formed on one founding principle however imperfect it was at the time by a bunch of flaming hypocrites who were from the enlightenment. Even though they were sleeping with their slaves that someday they would make us a more perfect union. 40 of us are taking the country and we will rule over the other 60 . We must find the inner love of america. Do you think we are going to get treated better. We have an opportunity to shoe at the people that captured them. But they wanted to make america better for the next generation of children. We are ripping that fabric apart. Everyone on the opposite side of the bench of me. You vote because the American Republic has stood up from the time of George Washington when he swear his swore his oath to protect and defend the constitution till 2016 is in danger. Thirty seconds and then we have to say goodbye. We offer a child a future for health it is mediocre. Why, and does is a 24yearold have to go to an emergency room. I think we have to focus on what affects a child. That child forget about what we talk about. It deserves a healthy life. Rolling through the streets that was a preview that happens that shortly after the United States under douglas macarthur. Henn hen focuses and focus his attention on the city ofs sixth largest sixth largest city in the United States. They started by bombarding them. Aiming for Japanese Military targets but aware that problems cant always discriminate friends from file into the army came in on the ground hoping to dislodge japan from this large city with the a japanese had set up. They started by doing it the art is no way trying to dislodge japanese from where they are held up. It came out that this cost to soldiers was high. Nothing compared to what filipinos were suffering. The army under the 37th Infantry Division switched tactics and decided it would this respond in the Industrial Way by showing any building that contains hostile japanese salyers sailors or soldiers. The commander of that division put it. The thought of losing an American Life to save a building was unthinkable. It kind of makes sense. Until you understand that the buildings he is discussing is occupied. They are occupied by u. S. Nationals. There in the buildings next door. That is the theory but its not always the case. The United States retook manila in the month of fighting. Turning as the own official history said. Overall, manila in a month of fighting a hundred thousand filipinos died and about a thousand u. S. Soldiers died. That is a good sense of what happened. The death count was 1. 1 million died in world war ii according to the japanese account. You get 1. 6 million. It is the bloodiest event that ever happened on u. S. Soil by a lot and often is not in the u. S. History textbook. Generally when we use u. S. History. We are reading the history of the main land. So the parts of u. S. History that happen off the main land dont always factor in to the stories we tell. At the end of the war at the wreckage of manila i have this account that was there. He was just a young boy at the time. He met a g. I. Who was handing out chocolate. And oscar oskar looked at him and said thank you very much. The gi looked at oskar and we have this from oscars account and was very conceit fused and look to him and said how do you speak english oskar looked back at him and said when you colonized us. You sent over a bunch of schoolteachers. I grew up speaking english and thats why i speak english. The soldier looks back at him and says we colonized you. I dont know what to say. You have to think from that perspective he has gone all the way across perspective pacific. At no point did it dawn on him that he is there to liberate people who are like him. He thought he was invading a foreign country. To watch the rest of this Program Visit our website and search for daniel using the box at the top of the page. Here is a look at some books have been published this week. In america for americans. The Immigration History Research Center provides a history of xenophobia in the United States. The inside trump white house. Offers a collection of interviews from the president and members of his administration. In crime in progress the cofounders explain their investigation into President Trump into the creation of the field dossier. Andy university of houston the late Democratic Congress member. And her support for feminism. Also been published this week glenn jacobs explains how he went from a professional wrestler to the mayor of knox county tennessee and mayor kane. And impeached, removing the President Trump from office is the best way to protect democracy. And in revolutionary brothers tom chase been explorers of friendship between Thomas Jefferson and mark eight day lafayette. You can look for these authors on book tv. Television for serious readers all weekend, every weekend. Join us again next saturday at 8 00 a. M. Eastern for the best in nonfiction books. 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