Democratic 2020 voters and then the broader public. For democratic voters, communication shows liberal voters rank Climate Change as the third most important issue. That something when you see the Democratic Candidates up there, they are jockeying for the primary voter. Whereas the rest of the potter broader electorate is a little lower on the pole, 17 out of 29 issues. What were seeing now is a little bit of emphasis on Climate Change because of who is being spoken to, but well see where it comes out in the general election. Host what are the major differences focusing and the democratic primary field of those primary candidates when it comes if im at a policy . Where are we seeing the risks . Guest were were seen quita bit of agreement and i think thats credit to the amount of activism thats been on this issue and a lot of a natural events that happened that a been fueled by Climate Change. A lot of studies have come out by the u. N. That say we need to be more drastic and urgent and our action. We are seeing a lot of Public Investment calls, billions of dollars worth to address Climate Change bring in a whole bunch of different groups, not different groups the groups that event under wraps political process to address these issues that hit people generally but hit all people. But bernie called for 16. 63 trillion plan over 15 years which dwarfs most other peoples plan but everybody called for something big, warren has called for trillions, beto orourke, kirsten gillibrand. You want to talk about your divorite candidates climate and Environmental Policies whether its the democratic president ial candidates or President Trumps actions on the climate and energy, you can certainly do that, n this last 25 minutes of the washington journal, democrats 202 7488000. Independents, 202 7488002. Zach colman covers energy for politico. What has been impact on candidate running solely on the environmental issue . Hes made everybody aggressive, he was out on the debate stage challenging joe biden and that got biden flustered. Joe biden has had to come out with a detailed plan because and so many people were asking people for more details. Jay put out several huge white papers on what he wants to do on Climate Change and every little aspect showing that it touchestl every part of life and economy and everybody has had to measure up to that. What are some of the details that joe biden has put out . Joe biden has called out zero Carbon Emissions in 2020, some have called for earlier, he has left open role for, you know, net zero Carbon Emissions, Carbon Capture which is when you take allow gas, then you track the emission to make sure they dont affect the clie mitt and store it underground. Hes called for 500,000 more electric vehicle charging stations which would help, vehicle charger. Hes tried to bring some of the obama regulations that he worked on and plus up what he was doing there. Meanwhile from the president s side, whats his pitch heading into 2020 on this on energy and the environment . I think that hes still trying to find his best way tohi talk about this. You see him on the debate stage competing with the others who have putg out aggressive plans then then we need to work dut and we will have a conversation about it. He said he would eliminate fracking but theres not a clear way to do that. We are talking about President Trump . El no, we are talking about joe biden. What is President Trumps pitch . President trumps pitch he wants tos keep doing more of the same, he said in g7 this week that the wealth of this nation is under sea, referring to coal, oil and gas and i dont think you will see a change from him, i dont think its going to matter who the democratic t candidate is, he doesnt think that democrats have the winning side on this issue. Does he want to run against the Green New Deal . Of course, his advisers love that democrats are talking about this because he thinks and advisers think that its insane, they think just too ambitious and people arent going to support it. A few callers, 25 minutes before our show ends, david out first of alabama, republican, good morning. Thank you, john, thank you for cspan. My concerns are with the government itself in natural [inaudible] and oil which we have so many vehicles around, the United States that almost every driver can have a brand new car coming off the line, so theres come a point in time where fossil fuel car, are going to have to be downgraded to the point where theyre not even, you know, being sold. Now im a car buff but sometimes we have to take into consideration what the environment needs and what it doesnt need. Do you think as a republican President Trump does that enough . Well, no, he doesnt, i dont think hes truly thinking, we do need scrubbers in those factories to help scrub some of the stuff but we cant keep planning stuff in the ground thats going to to soil our earth, its just like with the what do you do with all the toxic wastes that comes out of everything thats you try to revert . Thanks for the call. Zach colman. David brought up a lot of good points, one of the 2020 candidates cory booker has made reforestation which is planning trees again essentially one of the signature aims, so, you know, and theres definitely a point about transportation here. We dont have the ability to get a handle on Climate Change if we are not reducing emissions from transportation, people are beholding to their car at this point and its a big challenge, thats where most of the emissions come from, not the power sector anymore, not all candidates you mentioned reforestation, we are seeing headlines about President Trump looking to boost logging in alaska which folks know the story. You know in the sense that we need more trees to capture more carbon and any tree loss is going to be negative for the climate. The story today in Washington Post looking at President Trump apparently asking secretary sunnymp perdue to exempt alaska 16. 7 millionacre National Forest from logging restrictions those imposed some 20 years ago will certainly look for more headlines on that as we go, something that may be in the works. Austin, texas, independent, good morning. Thank you so much for both of yours work, i wanted tok mentin john robins work, he was nominated for pulitzer prize, he put another one, food revolution, you know, because you lose 5,000 gallons of water withos poundation productionf beef. Cows are so massive and they are waste dropping on the planet, so traps heat in our environment. Whats happening in brazil and we are losing the rain forest, those are theai lungs of the planet and he said we need trees to breathe. Bridgett, in texas. Certainly recognition that agriculture brings a lot of bremissions and there needs to e some sort of way to reduce those emissions, we are talking about soil, you know, sequestering carving in the soil, we are talking about having more responsibility grazing policies but i dontmo think thats been nearly as flushed out as Energy Policies were at large, theres not enough brought to bear on that. Why arent we we going to have a specific democratic debate about Climate Change . Well, at this point the Democratic National committee has said that theyre not going to have a single issue debate about anything, a little bit too late to include that, to their point we havent ever seen that but to the activists Climate Change touches all aspects of life, in fact, the economy it affects your health, it affects the home you live in, so they feel that this is an issue thats not getting enough attention that touches every single little thing and needs to be brought to light and what candidates want to do and make sure its first order priority of whoever the democratic nominee is because theres just not enough time left. And dnc as you noted, last week about not having that specific debate, cnn looking to hold a 7hour Climate Change town hall next week, ten Democratic Candidates expect today expected to show up for that event. Steve in st. Louis, missouri, youre next. Hello, i would love to talk about the discussion of different ideas on what can be done to help in the issue of Climate Change but as i listen on these conversations, first of all, i love the fact that the United States has wide variety of opinions, thats great, but whenever i hear republicans referring to democrats as dirty socialists and communists andal saying things like, well, why dont peopleni talk about cell phones, its because cell phones are not the major contributor to global warming. People people are saying what about the boats, yes, boats are a part of the problem but that is not main contributor to global warming, agriculture and the fuel, of course, both are part of that but agriculture fuel are the two big contributors right there. Are the democratic caller, who is your democratic candidate, who do you think is talking about the topic . I agree with some of your guys on the air said that ainsley was and, of course, Bernie Sanders close to my heart, so the fact that i would be supporting bernie anyway, hes taking a strong stance, if youre going to have an opinion, thats great, get eggedded on an issue before you getting throughout and voicing your opinions to the rest of the world like Bernie Sanders fan. Hes basically put meat on the bones to have Green New Deal, i mean, to this point the Green New Deal has been a Mission Statement but he decided im going to put some meat on the bones here, hes talking 16. 3 trillion of spending overi 15 years having cutting in half. Bonn emissions by 2030 and eliminating them a couple of years after that, zero emissions from transportations and power and everything, talking about reducing military spending, paking fossil fuel Companies Pay more, eliminating subsidies that they get, theres stock and trade, Bernie Sanders platform and hes always railing against corporate interest and make the fossil fuel Companies Pay for what theyve done to the climate but here we have some paper and thats something thats going to raise the bar for a lot of lindidates and they thought it was interesting interesting that come out with one, here it is. Out with latest polling on the democratic primary field, here is where it sits according to the usa today poll that just came out Vladimir Putin retained a wide lead up 32 , 2 Percentage Points higher from polling back in june, Elizabeth Warren moved up 4 points to second place at 14 , Bernie Sanders dropping 3 points down to third place with 12 , only 3 other candidates received support above 2 , that includes south bend major Pete Buttigieg and california senator kamala harris, each of 6 , andrew yang at 3 , former texas congressman beto orourke and new jersey senator cory booker, usa today with their new polling, lets focus on Pete Buttigieg for a second as the ofourth place according to that polling, whatt are his climate plans . He hasnt put it out in nearly much detail as the other candidates have at the top of the race have, what he has called for is carbon tax which was the policy a few years ago, even last year, but that has fallen by the wayside, even Bernie Sanders use today promote a carbon tax in his plan that released, he didntt mention it. Pete buttigieg says we will tax ilcarbon omissions which will me burning fossil fuels more expensive and the revenues you would get from those taxes will be given back to people in form of a rebait so in actual cost on individuals, thats the idea, this is what economists say is the best solution for directly addressing emissions but a lot of Democratic Candidates have backed off of it as the Green New Deal has called for more urgency and bigger spending plans. California, this is frank, democrat, good morning. Good morning, i think what happened, what you presented this human is indicative what i consider the problem, youve let you had time between National Climate scientists and a climate denier, we have in our country one of two Political Parties aat actively denies Climate Change, that does not happen anywhere else in the world, thats why we are doomed on the subject and i find it depressing, thank you. Zach colman on how democrats will look to flame the environmental debate heading into the general election regardless of who the candidate might be. Well, the caller is correct, theres been studies that the Republican Party in the United States unique amongst world conservative parties on being the only one that largely uniformly rejects Climate Science and i think thats what democrats are starting to lean into. Now theyve done that in the past but didnt resinate with mters for as much as it has now. So i think what changed ask is a lot of storms happening, science came out that we are falling behind on this, there has been a personal interaction with Climate Change and people are starting to connect the dotings dots and people i talk to in places that are conservative, places are red, something is different, conservative hot beds, north carolina, south carolina, they know that something is changing, doesnt mean that they will vote for a democrat, that doesnt mean that the policy platforms that are put out there, but theres a recognition that this issue is affecting everybody. About 10 minutes left in the program, plano, texas, patty, republican. Yeah, how many billions of years old is this planet and Climate Changes at times, i agree with that, but right now i just wanted to concentrate on ensolo solar products, i have solar panels on the house and i love them andnd here in texas it can get darn hot but i havent paid anything 150 in the last 12 months, thank god for energy company. Why did you decide in the first place to go solar . My neighbors got one a number of years ago and they kept saying how great it was and everything and i figured, okay, well, i can help contribute to a Little Health of the planet, just by doing that, and if you want to use solar or wind, fatever, go for whats good for your climate and thats what im doing, but on your climate stuff, why did president obama and michelle go and buy a 16 milliondollar estate, 29 acres, in fact, at Marthas Vineyard on the seashore f Climate Change is that eminent, dont you think this man is in deep trouble . Zach colman. Thats a good point, Sea Level Rise is threatening a lot especiallyies wealthy ones, wanted to have a big seashore property because its nice to be on the water, right, but this is threatening parttimes homes, you have seen people move back on homes, put on satellites, Insurance Markets dont want to play in areas anymore because they know theres major risk, every community, in fact, andrew yang has brought this up that we need to move to Higher Ground and its not a comfortable thing to think about, but president Obamas Administration itself thrown hundreds of millions of dollars to relocate communities in louisiana and in alaska. How does andrew yang make the pitch and how has it gone over . Went over kind of poorly in the debate when he made it for the first time because it assumes that you have level of wealth that allows you to do that and not everybody who lives in floodprone areas are wealthy, i mean, thats kind of the definition of of planning land use planning, they put people who couldnt afford better land in areas that would flood out a lot. The idea, though, that hes addressing we need to come to grips with the reality that things are not the same, i think that was appreciated. This is andrew yangs Climate Action plan, his proposals when it comes to energy and the environment from his website, he begins by saying, our planet is a mess, we need to bring the full force of america to bear on this problem or we will fall and the world will suffer. His website if you want to see more on that. Lessu than 10 minutes left this morning on the program, we head to alexandria, virginia, richard, independent, good morning. Hi, good morning, thank you for taking my call. I wanted to i guess echo the sentiments of the gentleman from alabama and just to say that you cant keep polluting at the rate that we are doing now and its important to keep in mind that we need to keep a gaps of what the arguments actually are because im fairly skeptical by nature, but i do feel like theress something happening and my question is this, can you recommend a book or a movie that it can bring bring us up to speed with what some of the arguments are today . And i will take my question off the air. Zach colman, what are you reading right now . I mean, honestly, theres any number of good reporters i can recommend, Elizabeth Colbert for the new yorker has documented whats happening right now, sixth extension is about Climate Change, essential read for people to understand whats happening to our planet. How long have you been covering Climate Energy issues . 8 years, heard it all, i think. Do you have a specific politico on this topic or sort of everything that falls under that . I approach things from Climate Change and everything does fall under that. The choices that get made in energy and environment are obviously going to have an effect on the climate and vice versa. Zach colman with us for about 5 minutes. Democrat, good morning. Hey, good morning. Yeah, i want to see if i can get zach to expound on the idea of corn and ethanol in our especially in our primary politics, first of all, its just my opinion that the ethanol mandate in gasoline is a bad idea and i think its kindan of getting proven out and my brother and ihi were discussing this yesterday, i got online and looked up Corn Production and how much of it goes to ethanol and it was roughly, not exact numbers, it was about i think 20 billion bushes of corn and little over 5 billion of that went to ethanol production and generally, we know that Social Security is a third rail of politics, im wondering if this bad policy of use of corn of ethanol is the third rail of primary politics . I mean, yeah, ethanol has been enormously divisive topic, maybe most havent heard about it if you dont live in iowa, when you talk about agriculture too, we are talking about climate and agriculture, there have been some groups who have shown that the amount of corn used for ethanol has led to Land Use Change such to the fact that we have fewer trees and clear it to plant corn for ethanol and oced for livestock, so this is something that is huge environmental issue and there are people onir both sides of ts one, there are people who think that displacing oil with ethanol is worth the cost, but i know, i think the Democratic Party and activists on the environmental side have turned the corner on ethanol and have started to push back on corn ethanol. They are going around iowa ahead of the caucuses . Its an ask, this is a huge part of the economy there. Agriculture is politically powerful in every state and in this country, theres so much that agriculture is exempt from fr terms of our environmental laws. Washington, d. C. Matt, democrat, good morning. Hey, good morning, guys, thank you for the conversation, sort of quick question for the guest, your 8 years of reporting and bringing us up to date, who has plan of Carbon Sequestration technology . I know theres a few systems out there that pull carbon out of the atmosphere and turn it into a liquid jewel, maybe you can touch a little bit on that this morning, thank you. Explain sequestration as youre doing that . Carbon caption sequestration is technology that traps the emissions from whatever fossil fuel youre burning and to pump it under ground to bring more oil orng trapped underground, those are two things that you can do with it, it hasnt been a big part of anyones climate plan, people rather would rather be silent on what they plan to do with it than actually directly address it becausese theres a lot of people in the Environmental Community who think is just another license for continue burning of coal and oil, people like john delaney who have caught for air capture, another form of sequestration, taking air and making sure that it doesnt get anywhere in the atmosphere, but its not been a detailed part of the plan. Only about a minute left in our program today, what part of the candidates Environmental Energy policy havent we talked about that is interest to you . I think p the idea of how you pay for all of the things, we are talking about trillions of dollars, when i talk about because i dont think anyone has put out enough information on it. You cant just get rid of fossil fuels subsidies and make sure and pay for everything that these candidates want to do. Theyve not been explicit about carbon taxes. Zach colman covering for politico, politico. Com if you want tost see his work and come back and chat with us further in primary and general season. Sure will, thanks. In 1979 Small Network with unusual name rolled out a big idea, let viewers make up their own minds, cspan opened the doors to policy for all to see bringing you unfiltered content of congress and beyond. A lot has changed but today big idea is more relevant than ever. Television and online, cspan is your unfiltered view of government so you can make up your own mind brought to you by Public Service by cable or satellite provider. 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