Wisdom is a repositoriy in the governors offices, and we know that we have the greatest collection of educational leaders in he history of the governor on a bipartisan basis, i think is a bipartisan consensus about that this morning. So im looking forward to this discussion. Im going to kick it off by some comments. A few things well look toward to excusing today. How do we help families finance Higher Education in how do we make it more accessible to Diverse Communities . How do we expand opportunities for career connected learning. How do we use data to really use strategies to prioritize our investment. Im looking forwards to comments. A preliminary comment, i know governors have been doing some really progressive work trying to make Higher Education more affordable and accessible to our family us. We know the crushing debt burden our families have and we recognize we have talent on a bipartisan basis, governor jerry brown in california, a really championing a new system in that regard. Governor bevin is in kentucky with the bond issue to scale up work force development, which is really exciting. We have governor brown, my neighbor in oregon, and others have made the first come of years free. So congratulations to all the governors fighting on this front. We know theres innovation on this front thats available, too. If i can talk about things that are successful in my state. A program we call the opportunity scholarship, which allows students if they make a commitment to a stem career to finance their college education, it has been very helpful for Diverse Communities who previously have had low Graduation Rates and its raised their Graduation Rates through fouryear programs above 90 level. And its happened because we had a private and Public Partnership and help fog finance this. We have a goal low name gary rube , special businessmon who moved this and this has been a spectacular success by having a few dollars from the public and private that raised these communities, that historically have 50 Graduation Rate in high school, or 60 , up to 90 plus, through a fouryear Degree Program in stem degrees, highdemand fields. We have a program called college bound, for lowincome kids and diverse populations. If they agree to keep their nose clean and and keep upper the gpa, have success and they have a vision to get through high school. We know Innovation Works and im looking forward to other ideas how to do that. We know we have to look at innovation in our noncollege environment, how to give people connection to the jobs of the future. I dont know what your experience is, but in my experience, theres one thing that i say when im talking to any group in the state of washington, republican, democrat, chambers, urban, one thing i say that gets universal applause and that is that we do have to quit telling our kids that if hey dont get a fouryear degree, theyre a failure in life. Everybody gets that transitional need we have and giving our kids educational opportunities. So governors are leading in this way, in many ways. Ill share a little experience in washington. We had the first Apprenticeship Program of advanced manufacturing where kids in a pay to Apprenticeship Program. In tacoma, washington and had the first group of 12, colorado has done well on this as well. We had the firstolout of the first 12, and they came to sign up with a company they were going to have apprenticeship with and theyd come up and put their hat on and their Company League be and put the shirt on, and it was exciting as draft day in the nba. Lebron james was not as excitinged at these kids. I think thats a future we have to give our kid. 70 of the kids in switzerland, age 17 to 18, are in paid apprenticeships and have almost no unemployment in their young population in switzerland. We had our first Computer Scientist coding Apprenticeship Program, the last two classes. They have 100 employment. A lot of people were midlife and had to go into a coding program and give it an apprenticeship has been spectacularly successful. Im looking forward to share other ideas. Have to do a better job giving die very population access to Higher Education. Were doing that our dreamers are getting Financial Aid to make sure that our dreamers have access and these are the most ambitious, smartest kids in our state. Our kids have been 18 years in our country and want to become daughters and lawyers. I dont know about d. C. But in our state we want them to become doctors and lawyers would and were giving them a chance to finance that. We have challenges in d. C. And i ill join our governors in helping understand our challenges therefrom are threatness the Higher Education act. Proposed cuts to some support systems and i hope were all go going to be vocal in talking to legislators to see we dont go backword in our financial as i system. I want to thank everybody who is pitching in on this and i want to turn it over to south dakotas great governor, who has inspired us in so many ways, one of the most inspirational voice makes sure kids with disabilities get access as well. Thank you for your leadership. Thank you, governors inslee. Thank you all for being here for this presentation, for the grate panel. Today we have the pleasure of being joined by kevin mccarey, the Vice President for education policy and Knowledge Management at new america, where he directs their education policy program. In addition, kevin is the author of a book called the end of college creating the future of learning and the university of everywhere. And i know he is happy to have me mention that. Its available on amazon. But he has been thinking about this and writing about this so im interested to hear from kevin. Always joining us, i susan, former Arizona State university student, a participant in the Starbucks College Achievement plan, and currently a candidate for a masters in Public Health at george mason university. Thank you for being here. And ill turn it over to governor ducey. Thank you very much, governor. As the governor of arizona, i take great pride in introducing a force of nature from arizona. Michael crow came to Arizona State in 2002 via Columbia University, where he was vice provost and in charge of science and technology. He came to our state with a grand vision to create a new American University and the proof is in the pudding. Not only with the full bright scholarships he lab been eight to attract, retain and graduate, but with the distinction of being named the nations most Innovative University for the third year running, by u. S. News world report, beating out institutions such as stafford stanford and m. I. T. He has laid the groundwork to transform the state. The Barrett Honors College at Arizona State university was recently called by the New York Times as the nations Gold Standard in honors colleges. The equivalent of an Ivy League Education at an incredible value to our arizona students. So it gives me great pride to introduce and gave warm nga welcome to michael crow. Applause. Thank you, governor ducey, and governors, its an honor to and privilege to be here and speak with you. I come in hard off the stage coach from arizona, the 48 states added to the lower 48, the frontier, where new models that can help to us shame our future are possible. We have been able to build a new university model, and i mean literally a new university model. We call it the new American University. It could happen been called the odal of university, one connected with everybody, working with everyone, advancing everybody, unblew believe effect e efficient and effective. Could be what the future would need, which is a university which has a connection also to everybody. Connecting at all levels of education and every citizen that needs something from the university. You as governors are the are bitters of the future. Your constitutional assignments unique in our democracy. You have the unique responsibility for advancing and designing those elements of our democracy that are most critically dependent upon education and for overseeing those educational processes in each state. The question to each of you is, can we build a new kind of college or university, Community College, local fouryear public college, Massive Public presearch university . Can we build a system within Higher Education, public Higher Education, in particular that can be actually adaptive, actually respond to the changes that are round us rather than something that you have all been told . The fact there reelingunning that place. We cant get anything done at that place. Et cetera, et cetera. So heres what were facing. Were facing and youre facing at governors, i think, i use this word intently a fundamental economic and social change moment. Like nothing that anyone alive today or our parents or our grandparents or our greatgrandparents have ever experienced and that is the rate of technological advance will excel rid infinitely, and through thatting asel racing all things we think about, the way an economy works, the way work is done, the definition of work, the definition of education, the definition of a career, the definition of a job, the def notification labor, the definition of all things will be altered by the fact that we all carry around Super Computers in our pocket, et cetera, et cetera. You know that. You match that with thing growing diversity of the american population, match that with the unbelievable ride of Global Economic powers, which is fags to longterm benefit of the population of humanity on the planet. Match that together and then you say, what does it take for us to be successful in the future . And im not a politician but i am going to say that if its not 4 or higher Economic Growth on a threeyear running average in all or most of the states and aggregating to a national level, we have problems related to social mobility. Problems relative to further advancement of the population, problems continuing the American Dream if we cant maintain that level of economic advance. If we cant graduate by the age of 18, 895 of our High School Students were assigning them to a life of suffering. Were assigning them to a life of suffering, and you as governors know all of this. If we account get at least 60 in the foreseeable future to some kind of post secondary certificate i use old terms, high school, old tomorrow. Post secondary, old term. College, old term. These are fixed boxes of the past. If we cant get 60 to some kind of post secondary certificate, were about to going to have a work force capable of adjusting quickly enough to the thing that is changing everything, which is upick quick to us, high speed, forever, forever, technological advance. If we cant do that, our ability to accelerate social mobility , our act for our democracy to work will be challenged. Unfortunately, each of you and me in the 16 years ive been at Arizona State, we all inherited a design for public Higher Education that is rigid, fixed, largely incapable of understanding how to modernize, and i dont mean individual Program Order initiatives or this group or this center. I mean in aggregate. So, since 1980, the United States government has assisted citizens of the United States to go to college through pell grant. More than half of them have no degree. Half a trillion dollars of expenditures. What do you call a person that guess to college in the United States today and doesnt finish . 33 million or so of those individuals are living in our states, whats the word . What do you call someone that didnt finish college . Dropout. A derogatory term. We have system of Higher Education which uses derogatory terms to label people that didnt finish their institution, which couldnt adjust to helping them to finish. So this fixed model of Higher Education is so intent that ill give you two examples. A former governor now the president of purdue university, mitch daniel, and Mitch Daniels has been unbelievably innovative and driving forward initiativess and was so bold as to acquire an Online Platform so he could scale purdue universitys Land Grant Mission to something other than just the few kids that could come there and attend the university could he expand the model so everyone would have the opportunity 0 engage purdue, which is a world class, fax, unbelievable institution. Could he do that . He took that risk. What is going on now . His factually have assembled. Voting against him. Theyre going up to chicago and meet with the Higher Learning commission and urge that this thing that he acquired from the market, that he is converting into a not for profit arm to extend the power of purdue university, not be accredited. Called purdue global. That is and i will say it, thats insanity for those on he perdue fact tim im telling you,. [applause] we did a program a few years ago and youll hear from a graduate with the starbucks corporation. Starbucks has more than 130 or 40,000 employees in the United States, half or so went to college and never finished. Couldnt a great conscious, cappallist corporation, company like starbucks, work with a civic minded university to develop a program that could find a way to get people that started college, out in the work force, had debt, some problem, couldnt solve the problem could we come together and figure figure out how to graduate from College Without debt. We graduated a thousand people. Have 7,000 students in the practice with starbucks. We plan on graduating 25,000, for which we had to do brand control to maintain damage control on our own brand, because only a lowlife scum university would be so foolish as to divert the energy of its elite faculty to educating College Dropouts working at starbucks. That is how bad it has gotten. So, out on the frontier, heres what dedecideed to do. I was 12 years at Columbia University as executive vice provost, got tenure there, that was like proving that one could be operate at that kind of level but i learn a lot of lessons there. One thing is that innovation is central to everything and innovation was largely an except in a Science Laboratory or Engineering Laboratory where engineer prosperses around the inveinses and discoveries discod technology on the frontier, we built a new design at all levels. First, with purpose. The university does not exist for the fact can i. Faculty. This is serious business. Our university exists first for the students, second for the community, and the community we serve, and lastly the factually are the means rather than the end of the institution, so do toe do that we redefined our purpose, restructured the charter built around what a Public University is supposed to be. Measured be ininclusion and success of students and measure the success of the university based on who we include and how the students succeed. And then measure the Research Power of the university how be benefited the public, and lastly, the university actually will take responsibility for the outcomes of our community, economic, social, educational, health, wellbeing, if k12 is underperforming we are platterly to blame. For example, second. We changed the design of the universe. Most universities and colleges and Community Colleges you all oversee or fund or interact with in one way or another, theyre run like public agencies. Thats an archaic mod up which will never deliver. They will notebe able to become efficient or effective on increase efficacy with some exception because the design is wrong. Win went away from agency model to an interviews mettle mettle d respond for findings resources beyond those privated by the government. All universities do this but a fundamental design shift. Still on the list of we set out to design a diskind of university. We change our clock speed. This watch that my wife gave me, many years ago, actually measures the rotation of the earth and the speed of the argue rotation. Not a semester. So each second is not a semester. So in a normal academic watch, five second its five semesters. Thats two and a half years. That doesnt work. The clock speed of a modern adaptive Public University must must be at the speed of the economy, the speed of change, the speed of what it tacks to be competitive. Technology. We embrace Technology Like no tomorrow. Heres what the law says about organizations that do not embrace technology. A Nobel Prize Winning economist, dont embrace technology your price will rise infinitely. Period. Health care sufferings from this exdeem ya suffers. We embrace technology in every way and i have a punch line. We have 175 Technology Partners in our institution on campus, allowing us to project off of campus and do other things. Scale. All campuses sit in some sort of isolated interactive arena where they just believe they have to solve everything themselves. Their scale is what they think of as the learners who come to their campus and if cow dont finish youre a dropout and a castoff, youre cast aways. We decided to change the scale of the focus of the institution so social scale. Could we help ten corporations or Big Companies like starbucks, to graduate another 100,000 people over a number of years and eliminate college debt as a problem . Could we scale or find a way to work with the entire k12 community. We did. We bill a digital platform engaged with the peer k12 community. Build Charter Schools and integrate them as learning center. Could we combine excellence and access into a Single InstitutionAcademic Excellence means you allow your factually members to think well of themselves instead of only a teacher. They will forever believe themselves to be in a social hierarchy and they are by definition second class. Theyre by definition second class, soon theyll be organizing against you. Thats the way it works. Resources. We acquire our resources not from the lord and master think State Government, the State Government invest what they can. Our other resources air quite through partnerships and engage independent the market, advancing ideas and activities. Access. The university itself is not accessible to broadest crosssex of society and called its a Public University, it has not been successful. Our student body is representative of the entire socioeconomic diversity of our state and our region. It took 12 years of changes to be able to get there and we have been there for four years at that level. Unbelievable changes. And then finally, quality. If its not squall, dont do it. Close it, shut it, eliminate it. Change it, chang the leaders, do whatever is necessary if its not quality. Heres the result. Two examples. For ducey knows in all states, including arizona, were really interested in having more stem graduates. So just picking that one area, we decided to eliminate engineering depths in 2008, change the logic of the engineering school, change the logic to change who would attend the school, who would graduate. Could we get more women, i minorities, moore people in engineering . We created five grand challenges and an older model, polytechnic and combined those, 8,000 students in engineering students in 2008 with a 68 freshman retention rate. This year we have 21,000 students in engineering, 17,000 on campus, 4,000 online and 90 freshman retention raid. The Online Students have the world residents first fully accredited degree. Robots, unbelievable degree format so the guy on a ship off the coast of korea or afghan, while they sending our disk can get an Electrical Engineering degree, not a basket weaving degree. So the university outcome this is the crux of the story since 2003, 2002 was the first year we been implementing the new mod. We producessed three times as many graduates mass 2003. 8,000 to 24,000 graduatesment five. Five times the level of research. A huge met foe sis of met morphosis of our faculty. Ten times the number often students taking courses. 95 inappropriate in fouryear grad weight rate. 59 improvement, use technology, innovation. We have 575 reduction in the cost to the state to produce a single degree. Our faculty is the same size. That is a metaphoric transforation because on the frontier, where we are, we dont have a fixed idea of what were supposed to be. Most universities have become fixed ideas. Fixed. That doesnt work anymore. It worked very well. We have unbelievable achievements and doesnt mean everyone has to change. Our 2025 goals are more significant. 32,000 grad watts, matching society, men, women, ethnicities, socialow economic class. No predictability based on Family Income for graduation. Whats the key drive . New design, new design, new design. Any one of you as governors attempting to enhance the productivity of your university biz managing the present design, you will not be successful. With some exceptions. You will not be successful. A knew design, new models required, particularly to operate at scale. You know that for a tenyearold child todayborn in 2008, for that child, 60 of the jobs that the child will have access to when they enter the work force and i dont mean this lightly they do not exist. We dont even know what they will be called. All we know is for them to do the jobs success any, to advance our country economically and socially and culturally, they will have to be master learners of some type. You cant do that unless you can scale in a way we have never been able to scale before. So thank you for the invitation and a little story from the stage coach forgot arizona. Thank you. [applause] we now are happy to have susannah, who is a starbucks partner and First Generation College graduate from virginia. Thank you. Thank you for having me. My fiveyearold daughter was really excited that i would get to speak with the state bosses. My parents are from mexico and came to the United States to give us a better opportunity. I i was born in california, and growing up it wasnt a college if i would be going to college. That was may main goal. The only issue was objects its came time to go to college there was no money there. My parents didnt have the resources to save for college. So as determined as i was, said ill take loans out, its okay. So i flew from california to new york, went to syracuse for a year, and after the first year, i knew that there was no way i could graduate from there in four years and have that large of a loan over my head. How would i live, how would i survive . So i got scared and i became a dropout. It definitely had a negative connotation, one that stuck with the. Fell in love and got married to my husband,ed a gar, of 17 years now. Hes in the coast guard and we started moving around. I didnt know how to bring my education back in with so many deployments. Would i be studying and we would have to deploy with the credits transfer . Would i then waste even more money . After a few years, i have three beautiful children and at that point they became my priority. From then on i said, okay, i will save for college forks your college. You wont have these same concerns and worries that i had when it was time for know go. So they became the priority. I then started working at starbucks. It was just meant to be a very casual parttime job. The college ashould program was announced and i signed up that dayment i knew that was i get very emotional about it. I knew that this was my opportunity to go back to school. Excuse me. [applause] so i started attending the very first session that was offered. Fast forward to may of 2017. I flew to arizona and walked across that stage and got my diploma. [applause] it can be said that its been my determination, my hardwork work, that has got known the point where im at bit wasnt just my doing. It was starbucks and Arizona State that gave me the lucky break, that created this opportunity for me to thrive, that believed in me, and looked at it as a social project and not an investment. Through this i have gained so much confidence. I am currently enrolled at george mason, working towards a masters in Public Health. I should be graduating next spring and i was promoted to assistant store manage sore i should be running my own starbucks in a few months. Without this program, i wouldnt be here. So im incredibly grateful for the partnership that dr. Crow and that schulz came up with. That investment in resonating at the store level. I have a few partners. We refer to ourselves as partners. I have a few partners at my store participating in the program and its just created such a difference view. In our stores, and in the confidence of our fellow partners. Thank you so much for letting me tell my story. [applause] good for you. [applause] thank you. It was our profound hope that when youre done with your degree, youll apply for a fob job with your great new governor in virginia. Now we have kevin, Vice President of education policy and Knowledge Management at new america. Thank you. Thank you so much to all of you. Thank you for letting me come to talk today. Ill be brief so we can get to the discussion. Ill talk about from the d. C. Perspective, the federal Higher Education act. 0 so this is the big omnibus federal legislation that governs everything from pel grants to excuse loans to Sexual Harassment and work study and everything in between. Its good time to talk about the Higher Education act. Congress basically only does this about once every ten years, its been ten years since the last time. The last time was ten years before that. A lot is at stake, both from a financial standpoint and a regulatory standpoint. Ill talk about a couple of things. One is information and data and the other is new models to help students get better jobs. As we all know, the states are the foundation of the american Higher Education system. You establish these universities, you pay for them, then the federal government comes in after youre done, provide pelfronts and loans loao lowincome students can go to college, and the graduate Level Research funding comes from the federal level and loan money is federal loan money as well. So, both the state and federal government have a common interest, and thats information. What are we getting as taxpayers and governments for all that money . Are students grad weighing and are they getting jobs in that are guy to graduate schools. What kind of jobs are they . Can they pay their loans back in this is actually surprisingly hard information to come by sometimes. And the reason is we have National Market moore higher ookayed and labor and while statesstates are improving the quality of their data systems, often times youre limited to what happens inside your state. So if youre in a big multistate metropolitan and have people getting jobs in other states, transferring and graduating somewhere else, its hard for states to know that. So theres an opportunity for the federal government to essentially fill in the gaps and provide you with more information, beth about your institutions of Higher Education and just in general, how your work force and education and labor systems are working. Youre competing to bring with one another on a friendly bay circumstance im sure, for a Big Economic Development opportunity, somebody wants to locate in your business, you can provide them with the best possible information about both the quality of your institutions and what is happening to your College Graduates. So theres some legislation actually out there right now, called the College Transparency act. And it would allow at the federal government to fill in these gones in the information that you have. Its bipartisan. Its bicam recall. All of the major associations of public colleges and universities that work for you and you work for them. As well as the chambers of commerce and the business roundtable. This is one thing the federal government does well. Doesnt do everything well. Started my career working for indiana governor frank obon non. Ive been here in dak but have not forgotten the state perspective. One of the limited roles the federal government can do a good job with is to provide information that goes across states, for the whole country. So data is key. The second thing is to get better about jobs. Governor inslee talk about apprenticeships and Washington State is a leader. Apprenticeships is an old idea and an opportunity to translate them now to the new labor market of the future. Its absolutely correct, we cant just have a system that depends on people getting fouryear degrees. Most people dont get fouryear degrees. We need a system that works, that provides status, that provides pathways to jobs beyond the very upper level professional classes. So we need to do it in a way that doesnt segregate and bifurcate our population into two years. Looking at countries like switzerland which is the very, very successful, in providing more apprenticeship opportunities, apprenticeship there is not separate from the Higher Education system. Its part of the Higher Education system. So at the same time we want to create more opportunities for apprenticeships in new fielded like health care, i. T. , outside of the practice traditional building traded. Dont want to create pathways with no way into the Higher Education system. One idea is this idea of this where is the federal government can play a role by providing some standardization create a category of a student apprentice. So, when you you can register as a student apprentice the same you register as a student or apprentice so we can provide resources so we can connect information about those apprentices with local businesses so businesses know what kind of Training Programs are going on and can connect into be a partner the creating policy around them. Where we can provide theave sources perhaps to help subsidize the tuition that apprentices have and subsidize the cost of train. Were the only country with Apprenticeship Programs where businesses pay the whole cost of the subsidies and education. So this is a field i think modern apprenticeship is an idea whose time has come. Businesses need people with these skills. People need these skills to get connected to businesses. And this is a role where a limited federal role in partnership with states, can really make a big difference. And finally, ill just close by offering, i guess a broad observation. Everyone has a different perspective on these things and i think states and institutions have a shared need and a shared agenda when it comes to making sure that our felled loan programs and Grant Programs there are for colleges and students when we need them. When you get into these issues around data and transparency, that is where sometimes the agendas can diverge and can you may have someone from your colleges dom you and say we should push back on the federal efforts to provide more. In its intrusive. Its too much power here in washington and commodity enough in the states. Kind of using the language of federalism to make an argument against information. Really its often an argument against transparency. Its an argument against accountability. Great universities like Arizona State are 100 on board with more information because they know that when youre transparent, about how youre doing, outcomes like the great speech we just heard, innovation, new programs, new people and ideas, places like Arizona State look great the more information you put out there. But not all colleges are like Arizona State. Not all universities are as good as Arizona State. Some of them we need to provide consumers with more information so they will make good choices and provide you with more information so you can focus on quality, have the right leaders, move people in the right direction, and governor the way you need to governor your institutions. So we have a great opportunity with the Higher Education act. And to really move the american Higher Education system ahead so we have both in the innovation, the quality, and the access that all of our students and families need. Thanks again for the opportunity to speak and i look forward to the conversation. [applause] so, we have portion where we can ask questions for this great panel, and it is a great panel. I appreciate it. We have just witnessed the first bipartisan standing ovation, susannah. Thats quite an achievement. President crow, your kepts were inspirational i almost feel bad about the husky game dish how did that Football Game go . So heres the question. If we if i go back and talk to my president s about your presentation, which is incredibly exciting, and talk about the need for innovation and talk about the Innovative Systems you have used, and they respond to those ideas, what would they say that might create a resistance to those ideas and how would you respond to those and what could governors do most effectively to help College Leadership along the path that you have chosen. What works to free them or enable them or inspire them in that regard . Typically what im very familiar with the uw and Washington State president s in the state of washington and they would say, interesting experiment going in the right direction, different model than we have, that kind of thing, stuff going on alta su. Typically we hear, well, they dont have unions in arizona so they can get things done here, or well hear we do have unions in ashes. Dont hasnt Union Employees at asu. Theyll say its too top down, all slugs have to come from the faculty. You go back to what i said. A faculty centric model. The way to change that up is to set expectations and goals for the universities that are because we live in such a privileged position. As governors you have created public universities and colleges that police in privilege. We now need to be given an unbelievable assignment and the assignment is, were interested in you educating the kidded that come to the university and the college at the highest possible level, graduating kids at Community College, which very few graduate. Advancing to a level of metrics, thats off the charts. We need goals that are really difficult to achieve. We also need as i said in the earlier comments to be freed from bureaucratic control that these are institution that if freed from certain controls can deliver more but have to be held accountable and those are new models. What youll hear from folks in washington or other places is that, well, what we really need is more money from the legislature. We really need more Capital Investment or more this or that. That model cannot scale. Under any circumstance. To the level of educational productivity required for us to prepare the population for the coming economic and technological changes. We need knew models. Youll hear not a testifies of the historic model but youll hear, this the model we have and trying to work it the belles we can. So what one has to find are those willing to innovate, empower them, see if you can get changes in their behavior from their activity and then from that use those as exemplars. So, faculty doesnt have to yuanize to be prickly on occasion. What been been successed for you getting buyin. Buyin has come from empowering the faculty to be something other than petty bureaucrats. So, petty bureaucrats si around and worry that be Chemistry Department fighting against the physics department. We empowered our faculty to design their intellectual futures and at any rate new Program Women eliminated 80 academic programs and created new schools like the school for earth and Space Exploration has taken off no pun intended. We created an unbelieve school of sustainable which is focused on economic development, Economic Growth, and protection of the sustainability of the planet for future generations. So you empower the family in way their run offering these small, tightknitting are amounttive bureaucracies between even other, thats the thing that has to be freed. Thats the faculty governance system is a system of a series of bureaucratic relationships that are not innovative. I. Thank you. Well go governor ducey. Kevin you talk you the title is the university of everything, and it seems to me that what the university of arizona is doing is becoming more like Arizona State excuse me Arizona State is becoming more like that, and im wondering, if youing can react to that description and whether it fits with what you see occurring from your vantage point. As i said, definitely a leader in this field. Those who went to college a while ago now, maybe dont have a sense of how quickly things are changing and how normal the intensive use of technology is for both Current College students and certainly future college generations of students. Theres still going to be a lot of people who go someplace and with other students. Theyll have personal relationships with students and mentors but a lot of people are going to be online or theyre going to split their time. Some classes that focus on personal, and the biggest thing is you wasnt of the to take all your classes from one place anymore. To make that work, we need to make sure that theres a good system for transferring credits so you can put together a degree from different places. We need to be open to new kind of college credentials. We need to modernize our Financial Aid system so people can use their Student Loans or grants for degrees that actually fit the modern labor market. But at the same time, we have to make sure that we have a strong element of Quality Control and Consumer Protection in there. I if we just kind of open up the flood gates and dont look at things theres an opportunity for exploitation and we have seen the worse of that over the last tense years. Its innovation, National Access and quality as a try angle and look at all three of those things at the same time. I would just add to that, governor, that we have grown from 45,000 to 70,000 on campus students. We could not have done that without an unbelieve by innovative faculty and without technology as our friend. Once be built the policeman we that platform, and we have 400,000 other students who are signed up for at least one class and or interacting with us in another way. Thats has led us to the point after be built the Digital High School we released in its first semester, we realize we have this little thing to kevins point, the core of a Public University, operating in a research modal that can be property of a Broader Initiative were calling the universal learner, person coming in and out of the educational system throughout their life, along the way, even before their at college or university or Community College or Technical School or apprenticeship or whatever. You may be doing your technical apprenticeship in welding but need to pick up a class on business on engineering prisons or that or that. We engineering principles and we can do that and not change one wit the quality of education for the student privileged enough to live to us go to school in an immersive environment. Our goal by the time were begun is that all or nearly all of those students who come to university with us wont be paying any tuition because they are part of the work environment, helping to us deliver the universal learner outcome to a broader population. One university or college cant do that but hundreds could, if done in the right way to affect the outcome of the entire country in a significant way. I saw governor martinez. Can you explain to we what should the measure of how do we measure Student Outcomes . How should be we doing that . And should the institution be held accountable for those outcomes, and if so, what should be the consequences if the outcomes are not favorable for that institution. Those are important questions with relatively easy answers. The answer is we should measure everything. We should measure taking our graduates, how well are they doing, prime minister, what are they making this, life outcomes, their employability, their impact back. Allmer measurable, and then measure what did they actually learn . Do they have Critical Thinking levels and if not, why . Should University Appeal accountable for that . Unequivocally che should be. That should be so accountable that the Leadership Teams to universities not meeting goal should be replaced as raptlies a you can replace them to find people who can deliver those measurable outcomes and if they cant deliver them you should replace those people. Governor ducey. First, susan yana, great speech. Youre an inspiration and i hope you graduate from george may so come would come back to arizona. I thing is have seen and observed in arizona that you have created. This idea of access. That a Public University should not measure itself by how many applications its receives and then the kids that it excludes, and only the ones that it lets in. And then talk about how you have taken the talented kids in arizona, that could leave and go anywhere they want, in the country, and keep them in state, and then lastly, the concept of imbeddedness. Of you saying that a university should impact its city and its state in a positive way, and you pointed out where our state was on the day you came, and then the positive things that have happened during your tenure, and then you pointed out other places of excellent institutions but said, how is that city doing . On the question of access. We set out consciously to say that we would be egalitarian in our access. Not be artificially fake in seth admissions standards to exclude kids. On my desk is a catalogue of the university of california at los angeles from august 10, 1950. To get into the university of california on that day you needed a b average no tuition cost whatsoever, you needed a b and 15 courseses that prepared you to do University Level work, if you had that b average you took those courses and you were admitted no matter how many of you there were. There was no enrollment cap no cap, no funding model. It had not become a rigid bureaucracy. We are doing everything that we can to implement that model from 1950, everything we possibly can, to a Research Grade university. So from our perspective, access is completely driven by, have you brought in all of the talent from every family background, everywhere you income for us thats very, very challenging. All the things im talking about are challenging and we made that work 20 of the students from families at or below the poverty line. 50 of incoming 12,000 freshmen are nonwhite. Higher than the permanent of the state. So we have found ways through socioeconomic commitment and by not measuring ourselves based on how many kids we didnt admit. You all know the joke about stanford, which two years ago was called the most Successful University in the country because they admitted only five of the applicants. The next your the anytime anytime said they had become the greatest university ever lived because they admitted no one. And their donations were through the roof. And with their new donations they were going to advance a new center for social justice. [laughter] so from a talent perspective, you have to make certain in all of our states i came from columbia, university and my kole colleagues think that every smart kid in the country is at columbia are stanford or harvard or princeton. Most of the kids there are smart if not gifted but the millions of people that are just at capable arent that schools so we build a program called the barrett honor scholarship, the side of the stanford undergrad student body but operates in a different income level. More important than that, from the perspective of talent, we have decided to make the university as broadly scoped as possible. Hundredshundreds of underunderge Degree Programs tapping into the talent of the breadth of our society. Not the narrow funneling of our society into small activity, what the governor called imbed itness. This meanings were involved in literally everything possible. The improvement of neighborhoods, 40,000 students working as volunteers in every business attraction, Business Retention case, that you can possibly imagine, down at the level of company by company by company. How can we be of service, be engaged, build custom things, use our technology to project some asset we have to some benefit of your social enterprise or your business enterprise. Those things we have been working on. For dugard. Thank you. President , one concern i have had in observing the way our Higher Education system has evolved is the tendency to continue to graduate students in programs and having degrees that industry no longer has need of or theres an oversupply and theres no demand, and yet we dont have enough, seems to me in some areas where less education is required in terms of seats and times in seat and yet demand there is. Know part of that is our failure to help young people understand the paths that lead to go good job opportunity citizen paths that dont. Queue comment on that . Thats a difficult question. We have seen a shift where people using College Degreeses approximation si for that must be a hard work sore people now require College Degrees for jobs in the past didnt require College Degrees. A very complicate thing. Theres a shortage of College Graduates in the economy, unemployment for College Graduates is under 3 and going down. Unemployment for High School Dropouts is always bad. The number of jobs in the economy for people with only a High School Diploma have been plummet are for the last 1520 years. We need new labels too. Few labels weapon call offering the same. A diploma, this, that. Were not producing enough differentiation in our product. Im not a believer that degree a is necessarily better tan degree b. So a teacher from our institution has a 7 rate of return on their investment to get their teaching degree. Thats better than the stock market. Engineer has better than 20 return but the teacher is just as important as the engineer but theyre compensated. All universities and colleges should he appealed accountable for the quality 0 their degrees and success of students. Going back to our charter, it says we will be held accountable for the success of our students. Well be held accountable for the success of our communes. And so that sort of solves some of those issues if that can be imbedded in the logic of enough colleges or universities. We have time for one more question. Thank you, president crow. We have an opening at the university of oklahoma for our president. David has done a fantastic job. He has. We appreciate your comments today. I have a couple of questions. Do you have tenure. We have ten you he bent dont allow the urban myth of what tenure is an absolutely essential ingredient to the way that knowledge is crated. Knowledge is created by the destruction of previous theories, the destruction of previous ideas and without tenure, factually members would kill each other off attempting protect their ideas from being attacked by others. So its a license to advance your ideas to long as you work hard, so long as you contribute, continue to contribute, continue to be a great teacher, a great professor so long as you dont misbehave, so long as you dont abuse your position, and tenure is a license for academic achievement. If those other things occur and youre underperforming, at oning constitutionow go post tenure review. Most people put up for post tenure review quit. Most people who get the treatment for improving, they quit. If they agree to treatment irtheyre collegable. If they dont agree, theyre fired. I irconduct is unbecoming, theyre fired. So tenure is not a longtime deal. Have men waits hours in courts for lawsuits all of which we won to make certain that what im describing to you actually works. Very good. Lets have a round overpraise for all our panelists. [applause]. The president pro tempore the senate will come to order. The chaplain, dr. Barry black, will lead the senate in prayer. The chaplain let us pray. Gracious god, lover of our acknowledge your greatness and to depend on your wisdom and power. May they find their strength and usefulness in their total dependence on you