Rivacy has changed. In the modern age, this is a discussion from arl for the first 30 minutes are last questions with after words lineup and please ask questions with ideas or comments are welcome as well. I am the head at the Academic Technology department here at key school. I just want to throw points to consider as they make their comments. According to an Internet Security company the threats increased by 23 last year. Of that the Health Care Industry 37 of their breeches include income. 11 was the retail market. 10 in the education sector. A friend of mine said Samsung Smart tv in the terms of the Service Agreement has a clause and says be aware here spoken words include other information it will be among the data captured and transmitted to a thirdparty through Voice Recognition. , of course, on a daily basis we hear about surveillance to introduce these nine gentlemen i will ask a question then we will invite you to come up to the microphone. Directly to my right to is the president and executive director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center in washington d. C. Marc rotenberg teaches open Government Law at georgetown and frequently testifies before congress on emerging privacy and civil liberty issues. He testified before the neck 11 commission on security and liberty protecting privacy in preventing terrorism and has authored many briefs for the courts and is a coeditor of privacy in the modern age. In the center we have Amitai Etzioni a University Professor of International Relations at George Washington university served as Senior Adviser at the Carter White House taught at Harvard Business and university of california berkeley. A study by richard post your resume among the top 100 intellectuals and author of the new normal. At the end we have jim dwyer there rights the about in your column in the New York Times. Last year published the interactive book called false conviction. And that uses mostly retools day show how it could be imbedded in a criminal justice system. He has coauthored five other books. And one was a National Book award finalist. His book is more awesome than money. First we will start with jim. During a recent conversation you mentioned the privacy settings are in collusion. Can you talk about that . We know that we dont want mom to let get the picture of us on facebook with the budweiser logo printed that could end up on a public space like facebook. Over the last five or six years facebook competitors have made control with the users to set up this post it is only deemed by this body of friends. But one thing is that it is never excluded whatever you put up there that facebook itself in did even knows when you have second thoughts actually get thought better of it before you hit the post button there are studies of what they consider lost content. Maybe we call that prudence speech. We are in engaged of the beating the big bang moment as things are flying around to take shape that we have no ability to discern handed is a complicated part. The we should all consider where the World Wide Web came from or the most useful features were built by individuals, not corporations with the idea of a few to use what equity rather than future Capital Equity to make important advances. The boys wanted to do create an alternative to facebook but they did not succeed yet to. [laughter] but with the into yourself drag yourself up by the bootstraps to understand that age with the brand called firefox. There is the tool you can add to your browser. If you all spin around to look at the screen there is one called the light beam that i am particularly fond of. It keeps an eye on who or what has attached itself to your browser without you knowing. Right now this doesnt look like a lot. So we will try a couple of sites. Espn. Veneer times. Cspan. The New York Times. Wow. This is very meta. [laughter] and citibank. That have been to be as a bank that i know. Now we will go back to white beam a light beam all those triangles represent thirdparty trackers that have attached themselves to space a browser the last 90 seconds. The New York Times and around that somehow facebook was in their google. Facebook, et there is cspan connected to type kit that is connected to the time so they are cousins by marriage. Now we have citibank and google. Google is our friend it collects every single bit of information and auctioning off every second of the day. Those thirdparty sites it says 16 thirdparty sites if we add a few more like home depot or whatever you are interested and within a few minutes a proliferation in your entire screen is in motion. This is sort of meant to terrify only that when kids take drivers said they are shown videos of car crashes. What happens if you dont wear your seat belt . This is part of what our social education is that terrifying . It is a reflection of the very early stages of of policy discussion that is why we decided to write a book called privacy in the modern age. I should say a few words about the genesis because it will help you to understand the significance of the privacy issue not only in our daily lives in the frustration of people trying to understand that collects information about them which is a real problem but the legislative question that congress confront in congress confronts diplomats between the United States in the European Union about the flow of data we are in the midst of one of the most significant policy debates with the use of the technology in a long time and returning to the of book briefly it is about i found with various colleagues and friends about Electronic Privacy Information Center the book traces the history. Coming back how familiar these issues are but what we were concerned about in 1994 was the nsa monitoring of the internet communication about the use of vulnerable technology that did not provide adequate privacy for email and what we were concerned about was lack of security and stability with network communication. If has been a very big debate since Edward Snowden disclosed documents june june 2013 but trying at that time to establish a baseline the expectation of privacy in the modern age but for those that we have worked with an expert advisers and Technology Experts who provided the Building Blocks for modern security standard that all of you rely on when you go online to make a purchase through amazon and the typing your creditcard number there is a reason you can do that securely because the early days of certain decisions were made about ensuring that your credit card number to pass from your computer to the host computer without anyone getting access is very because Business Online becomes possible but would it doesnt there are enormous problems. For the last 20 years we have looked at the challenges to our Online Privacy and pointing to the rest that they created. Though we dont necessarily want it is possible it could be misused in ways that could pose a risk. About a diskette judge discussion. But the separate tax. Than those the results from the decision that has been made to diminish the privacy and security that would otherwise be available. It is a big picture about how safe the internet is to use when people go on line it is also a fascinating question right now between United States and European Union of very big debate whether Internet Companies based in the United States provide adequate Privacy Protection for those that provide personal information part of what is going on is the contrast between two Legal Systems the European Union said 20 years ago we want a comprehensive approach to Privacy Protection and it is very important with freedom of expression but we will establish that comprehensive approach that uses personal data will be subject to that approach rehab moment 40 years ago where we decided to put in place as we enter the internet age people to make choices. All these different options available if they dont like the google they can use another Search Company or another social Media Company and as a consequence there is very little privacy that the u. S. Will need to do more and finally to get to the third part of the book reaction redid the first internet addition to oppose the nsa now that is like a chat room but 20 years ago that was half the internet we brought to a lot of cases but the last part tries do set up concrete recommendations these are problems not that they can be solved but to be with the Environmental Protection and somebody said i want to solve pollution per carrier probably. But we solve those problems but i think the found a way to manage those so to take a stellar approach how do we get the vintages of a new technology while minimizing the privacy rest . Battle think Internet Users and should spend evenings trying to figure who is collecting data about them are changing privacies settings i think this service should simply be designed to provide a high level of privacy to the individual that if they choose to disclose information that should be their choice no one has ever been denied the opportunity to Exchange Data to others but we object to the current default setting a says companies can take information unless you objected that seems entirely unfair like an autumn manufacturer to say we have safety features on this car like seat belts and turn indicators and brake pads sitting in the trunk if you want to take advantage there is an instruction manual and you can figure how to install that but isnt it fun to drive a car . Isnt that where we are with the internet . And if you have the time good luck but we need to think about internet privacy and the protection to establish safeguards to leave people with the freedom and the choice to disclose their personal data as they choose. Training to use surveillance some people talk about the world changed after 9 11 and the city put of cameras today in boston today the conviction of the of bovver of the marathon was attributed and we individuals are trapped to end from syria. Also on route 95 there is a balloon hovering over aberdeen. Professor if you have an opportunity will you talk about are we in a normal . Especially closing your question so i will talk about the new normal but i need to step back so i can justify what i ingoing to suggest. My concern is once you hear what it is an alarming statement, my argument is but what i mean is we have in the courts if one side but nothing is left i cannot even go to the bathroom without taking my picture but the other site said under every bed is a nuclear weapon. It is the extreme that the policy is supposed to arrive with a dialogue that is conflicted major challenges. On the one hand with the individual rights but i will be good. But how much privacy is left . The next step that there be nothing there is a reasonable. That means in the constitution should please to return the Fourth Amendment when theyre reasonable or unreasonable. We have that situation with 4,000 people who identify with isis who are trained to commit the most barbaric acts. But because they come from persian on an but somebody doesnt want nothing then they said they or to seven secretary at night . And also. Sometimes a temperature to be prayer room people one this survey and a hospital but if he said my problem with privacy and then let me close by the most challenging. The most challenging chapter is freedom of the press. Because we have this situation that our newspapers the end at tenders will be deal to the judges and which one to publish. But to say the white house pleaded today not to publish the name put in as part of this separation in. The second bloodless as some of but if you have cable all but as an editor at ladies and gentlemen. I do not mean to interrupt but i want additional points. As we pointed out from the beginning with the Health Care Industry is a victim of a tax with retail and so on and so forth talk about the balance between technology and human behavior. We find today humans are wearing helmets devices and technology in naples that the y is behavior such we are in a pace he and back but it is filed in other peoples names. We had debated these issues before but also to be clear the book is not a strong privacy is important but it is about emerging challenges and issues as they looked at it from a variety of different perspectives and they think he would appreciate many of those. There is a wonderful contribution of the economist at Carnegie Mellon university specializing in a field called behavioral economics. Why is it people dont do more to protect the privacy . Whether they spend more time checking their privacy settings . Because it is not rational or sensible. Rational. Yes. I think there are legions of young hackers and builders who are trying to make better stuff. I happened to have lunch with one of them but i am not subpoena for walking enough for. [laughter] i was one of the founders of the company that built that. We collect half a millennium of sleep day then every night you collect that every night . I was pretty shocked. But if i could jump over the five and complete the audit of my depth. We have about five more minutes. [laughter] but talking about these interesting divergent issues and we want to protect ourselves that might bush who were they talking to read all of that. I have no problem with the government to have a process but what that you why the point out is a dialogue for the duration of nabi of and reasonable in a river hasnt happened with is not a blackandwhite but i just want to read one completely different point set to spend more time getting that technology fifth put the mixed company is affluence. Then i said you need to talk to me. I lost my argument put to become im not but we we give every generation because a lot of people did not get debated and because after a certain level cut once you have. My ms saying that one juror brought up with those basic needs then to continue to treat objects to give them prestige. That is where consumerism is a obsession. To add to this we have to liberate. So then we learn how to limit our privacy. With that if anybody has a question or comment please line up at the microphone. Marc rotenberg you talk about how companies should provide the option or the knowledge through data. But if you collect terms of service that most people dont react all the e. U. Agreed to that when given the option in any way we pick the three things that cost is nothing we give a little privacy i use google docks and wraps and all of these three things that make life infinitely easier the price that i pay is our live my life in every way. That is an excellent question but you point to the fact that most privacy policies on websites dont actually provide Privacy Protection and so it is of a disclaimer that the company says if you visit the web site or do business this is what we will do. So by clicking on the policy you have accepted those terms and lost any claim she might otherwise make. That needs to change. I dont think they should routinely disclaim your privacy. Health Care Companies and others and is actually the customers their data their creditcard informational Social Security numbers that is available to criminals. That goes into part to so what is the real cost . It is difficult to assess with internet based economy dont have a price mechanism if you walk into a store you see a jacket you pause to figure out is it worth taking that extra 60 . We are smart consumers to have limited resources figuring out how to use those. We understand but not what happens in the online economy as Companies Give you free stuff as they tried to drive up their competitor but if they are forced out by a big company that competition occurs. We need to do is think about these issues. Rand howard each tries to promote that discussion. Of for some people think government is evil the private sector is wonderful but as the Companies Take of misinformation are you agreeing with me . I cannot tell. [laughter] i am shocked. We have agreed before. It is a very serious situation. Most people go berserk the difference now is one quicksand one check. You hardly have to think about it. But the private sector can do what they want that is the major change. Just a comment most of the collection of data by companies is for economic gain into with the great if the default was opt out of me the other way. Opted rather than out. But the paycheck is reviewed by Congress Said there making changes. Could you talk about the climate where you will see that will go into the next month . Go try to give a brief answer but the current provision in congress is trying to get something done before that debate i think of the americas cup for assault one of the of tools is to avoid the 07 outcome but havent you get more transparency and accountability that says yes gov diseuse tools but they need to be accountable how they use them. So if we can get support we will end up with a better bill and i think there is support but who knows what will happen. I am a technologist but in todays domain it is a fools paradise because if youre sitting at our machine typing away you kill a intercontinental few choose not to you type it out it is access to any way so the point is not necessarily what is the intended end user but who else has access. As such if i create the zaph home on my machine the first thing i do is shut off the rf i am talking to the machine but i dont broadcasted sweater to have to worry about picking up my thoughts went to another extreme we know there is Voice Recognition software and consequently a price it in my room having a detailed conversation with someone i dont have to worry about that effectively if there is a Voice Recognition content it could take that conversation and transmitted onto the web. So very quickly i will answer you. Even than that wont work you can still get the information off the keyboard. But the reason for the book is the response of the of very famous technologist edison who said what man to lead dash man creates with his hand should control with his head and we should think of these not just as consumers but as citizens to participate in a democratic government. We do have the ability to control the use of these technologies it will be if we can safeguard privacy. I agree with that. Effectively we are in a fools paradise if we dont acknowledge the fact of bidding our machine has access to we have compromised. We are in tom sawyer everybody paints the feds they want to pay him to do his work and that is what were doing with our content we are painting their fences for them with our staff. So it is a lot of young folks around to try to build better mousetraps that dont catch our tails all the time and i am very optimistic it will happen in 10 or 20 years you have a much more productive relationship thanks to people like these kids. Tavis sorry but we do have to end on that note. I appreciate every by becoming a will