Stability. We are still arguing whether the biggest threat which i believe it is think about other threats like isis or al qaeda which i think as long as russia will be at major problem. Throughout your book, you tell us, the reader that Vladimir Putin has warned us what he is going to do. On many different occasions he was quite explicit in sending the message. Before his invasion of the republic of georgia in 2008, back in a few months before it happened in august of 2008, you can hear Vladimir Putin communicating from his perspective. Olustee code his message. Russia meeting the former soviet union talked about the president of the republic of george and russians right to intervene, it seems to me very often, western leaders and western media pretended it was not a real threat. We can look at a long list of things Vladimir Putin would never do. This list was produced year after year and now when we look at it, Vladimir Putin has been simply turning page after page, just going back a year ago before crimea, no, no, no, not going to happen then eastern ukraine, and to negotiate an stop here. Dictator doesnt stop. And we know from history and find a parallels, we know from history that it is different from politicians and elected politicians. Dictators always ask why not. Host with regard to the ukraine use a we had ample warning non that. Have our policies so far been in any way successful . Guest the western reaction to Vladimir Putins aggression, naked aggression against a neighboring state was quite mild by my standards. What i can say probably much less than needed probably more than expected and i think Vladimir Putin having a free hand everywhere in more georgia or other locations, his strong stand always pushed western powers in syria. He defended assad and after obamas infamous red line and unwillingness to perform whatever you would do, no strong reaction is expected. Willingness to expect annexation of crimea which was the first change of borders since 1945 and i think the european powers and the United States realized accepting that could open pandoras box and also Vladimir Putin underestimated the resistance on the ukrainian side. The biggest mistake in calculating the reaction of the western ukraine ethnic russians in ukraine, with flowers. Instead he met stiff resistance and that is the reason ukraine managed to survive and western powers had no choice but to gradually come into agreement with the Ukrainian Government about supplying us with small weapons. Why do you think the west has been reluctant to be more aggressively anti putin. Wikipedia that is why i wrote the book. In the game of chess you look at the position and joy what happened in the game, before, analyzed the game from the beginning and to understand the mistakes you made, it is important to look at the events in 89, 1991 where the book actually began talking about the collapse of the soviet union the fall of the berlin wall, a huge expectations, Russia Democracy and a huge relief in the west, the cold war, the momentous change in mind of the american voter. This important policy cold war was over and i wanted to explain how this complacency led to the revival of the forces of evil. The great bulk 992, the best seller. It didnt work out. The whole notion that history could end was wrong. But reflecting on that, fine. Now it is time to look for a Brighter Future and all the wars have been won. Every generation we have to fight to protect freedom and resisting the forces that attack our way of life. We could see that during the clinton years, al qaeda was on the rise and when Clinton Left OfficeVladimir Putin came in. Imagine in 1991 anybody predicting in the year 2000 a kgb officer would be president of russia and we could see what happened afterwards, western power didnt want to believe that russia that russia was invited to g 8. Russia didnt belong there and was in a democracy and industrial power. Boris yeltsin was invited to stay there and there were many events, is about russia like famous germany. When you look at what happened in the 90s, nothing to compare in germany, the affiliation jury in eastern europe, they were paying for that. The whole idea they played it wrong by provoking national sentiment, these arguments that hold water, at the same time Eastern European nations are privy to pretty strong memory, genetic memory of that. They wanted nato protection and the notion that has been promoted that it was a mistake, basically denies the right for self expression. People of estonia and lithuania wanted to be protected, there were free nations, nato has the extent for an umbrella and again, the only thing that stopped Vladimir Putin from attacking. Host in just as well dont you have to plan several moves ahead . What is next . Guest excellent point about strategy. 1992 great things could have happened if america had a plan. I know that is difficult. Granted we won the game. We want to celebrate, drink champagne, hear the stories and made great moves here and there but your importance of studying and next day, and knowledge on the move that were made in the game, and years of missed opportunities and is not accidental george w. Bush, bush 43, al qaeda, and the dramatic change in the geopolitical arena, this exchange, it is a separate issue. Al qaeda, afghanistan will go there, iraq is there. Whatever you do the taliban in afghanistan different events with negative impact in the middle east, on a giant geopolitical board. Again bush 43 didnt have any longterm strategic view, different strategy. The different strategy today, cant exit from this. You may criticize the invasion of iraq in 2003, but you should look at 2013 it was the related mistake and that is better than no plan and our greatest challenge today joy we do not have a plan, it can attract a small amount of people small amount of people could be millions because there are so many different people that are looking for some adventure or crazy stuff and we ask enemies of the free world from Vladimir Putin which i think to other isis, al qaeda, taliban, north korea, dictators, new opportunities to promote the agenda of destruction because they cant come up with the plan. Only way for them to prove their relevance to attack our way of life. This is something more people in my door, we must understand theres a lot more for us to call off. The war on the free worlds has been declared. Not the news i want to deliver. I hope people will realize we need to start a very serious debate about our vision of the future. Host are we scared of Vladimir Putin and his potential next move . Always trying to be cautious in the rise of adolf hitler. We should remember from history, before becoming the greatest criminal in the history of the human race them in the soviet union, could definitely compete as the mass murderer, you could see in 75, 76, he could capitalize by using this weakness and again, as part of the great dictator, it would realize he always had some new openings and opportunities to expand his influence because everybody was afraid Vladimir Putin is in power but it is not the first year or first term or second term but active moves, the logic of any dictatorship. At one point the domestic agenda hasnt had anything else, needs a new mythology, new ideas that he can sell to the public to prove he is a supermatchup, someone who is indispensable and without whom the country dies. Enemies inside the country destroyed, opposition is meager. Enemies will be found outside. When you look at russian Propaganda Machine has not happened overnight. You can see it returning with more volume and today it is much more than any time in the soviet union. My mother was born and raised in the soviet union under stalin, television was nonexistent, the level of propaganda, she keeps telling me suffering from 24 7 brutal attack transmissions full of hatred the rest of the worlds, threatening mother russia so countries being surrounded by enemies and the country is under siege and we have to protect the country which means everything government does, difficult even for people cant imagine propaganda could be lying totally. It is like george soros, freedom is slavery, war is peace, white is black. They created a mechanism never seen before that paralyzed the minds of millions of russians. And they say before countries in the back to normal. Sister, nephews nieces and it was part of the unit. When the soviet union,s moscow is that capital of the stage of war. Russian education, and seeing the demolition of the greatness of the country the heritage, social, cultural, scientific areas it is very painful, a lot of things that happened throughout history. Also a Huge Positive influence toward world culture and today it is almost throw away. We can only hope one day, our country will stop building its future on positives rather than negatives. Host hasnt Vladimir Putin restored quite a bit of russian pride . The back to the 30s, adolf hitler restore the greatness of germany restoration means creating a foundation without prosecution, limiting the freedom of speech general freedom, Vladimir Putins stability, when people say Vladimir Putin is popular it is like a dictator is very popular. What do you expect . You call people and ask what you think of Vladimir Putin . Anonymous calls . My reaction, i am surprised 20 or 25 of russians braved been a to tell a and anonymous caller they didnt like Vladimir Putin. One western town, can you call that popular . Of course. At what point in your life were you taken into the soviet system and deemed a chess master . Guest theres a network kids in the soviet union have so many options available, republicans there , as the profession, and many options, in the free world or soviet union, that is what parents always look for. And opportunity to promote or be promoted. And discover. Any part of this in my native town. The moment you are picked up by the system, the interest was to make sure the talent is found and promoted and given a chance to defend the country in the International Arena because the whole purpose was to prove the intellectual superiority of the communist regime. Host where you removed from your home . Guest i grew up at home. My mother and my grandfather played a most import role and my uncle younger brother and father, i went to school, a gold medal, the highest results in the soviet union but also read little books so my uncle and my mother didnt stop me from doing that. I read books that were not officially part of the problem. Books that helped me to shape ideas about the soviet union and the rest of the world. Also i have been traveling abroad so because i was one of the best junior so i intellectually understand the soviet model was not one huge cup of coffee. And while i was fighting for my title, World Championship title, i had no intention of reviewing my emotions about the regime and i was quite young too but since i won the title eyed was pretty active in promoting my views. By the end of the system, the soviet system, within the parameters of the former soviet union, an active role, that is how i presented my credentials in the opening pages. Host Gary Kasparov of do you see similarities, do you see similarities to what is happening today to the soviet system as the previous generation . I am always cautious in making direct appeals. I understand every comparison might be questioned because we cannot afford a similar pattern but at the end of the day the atmospheres are different. If we go back, how many states at that time played a vital role in the global arena . Ten . Is it is of very small number of states so today you have a different picture. You make a direct projection to 1975, in 1975 it was a fight between two systems, very powerful soviet system. Many followed the soviet model, soviet union was not powerful militarily but also as you know a lot of money, the economy at that time people didnt know how week that was. So i think today, to actually say we are moving into a new cold war era scare some people. Not exactly 1962, this is not ronald reagan, star wars program. It is right but wrong. Effect that the dividing line that the cold war has this appeal doesnt mean we are not facing similar threat so it is difficult, the threats are real and joy the free world today is much stronger than four years ago, the free world dominated the planet economically and militarily but at the same time we dont have the same political will, we dont have the same consensus that there is an evil that makes up, concentrates we could feel indecisiveness unwillingness to Pay Attention to these threats but here in america or europe, time and again we can hear the same voices, lets retreat, what happens with our business . Wait a second. Everything is globalized. Anybody can access any information, any event in world happens in the next few minutes by sliding a figure business is global. How can you weekend you can walk away. A group or a state. To the vision of the future. In 2015, where everything depends on each other. Trying to go overhear but keep the rest is impossible. You cant cut it. It is not for you to decide. John merrick is the leader of the free world, america has the military and economic capacity to protect the free world against Global Threats but thinking that we can walk away is a grave mistake. The difference is you have to make sure to build real coalitions, not state coalitions. Yes celebrity the anniversary of the magna carta, the founding document of those free world. The magna carta, the united nations, every nation has a cease and no matter what the nation actually believes in and what kind of practices of democracy, so we need the vision on the values that help us create this world and again we should understand it is not just a simple process of negotiation. We have to show strength and that is what the book is about. Host why you admire cobble . Guest many things in the book are fortunate. I could look at the events of the past from both sides, from one side in the soviet union but also traveled a long and i know a lot about this country and also the history of the free world. I would like to have this objective understanding of the nature of events. They were actually eat unique cumin beings. Somebody who came from the art world writing books, he realized Free Expression was not possible under common dictatorship. He sacrificed his personal safety, his career for they syncing values that were absolutely vital for recovering the freedom of this country and many things he did, many things he explained to us that is what he said, leading in truce, the way of sending this message before the collapse before the end of the soviet union, after he became the president of czechoslovakia, and different wars like the revolution. What happened in yugoslavia, how much blood was spilled before the dust settled. Look whats happening in ukraine now. So he guaranteed a divorce would be most peaceful. Thats one of his conscience. Currently im the chairman of the board of Human Rights Foundation followed by and we every year and all the Freedom Forum we present battle prize for creating defense come just to encourage people to use the means, created means of books sketches whatever. So you send the message of the freedom. Is. Host and find it was the policy prescription you would like to see happen . Guest before we can work out policy we have to set a debate. And i hope that the book that would be released in the individual plays a role in provoking sharp debate as the primer and this president ial election. Also a book will be published in several European Countries didnt think it will have an effect on the public debate there. I think we should recognize certain realities. Call it the climate reality. Its unfortunately not global warming, but more likely geopolitical global freezing. I think what i want to see first, i want to see a longterm plan. Again, what kind of world we want to see five, 10 years from now. We have to compete with the bad guys coming up with a positive vision. And again we have to start preparing us for contingency. In 1991 the world was not ready for the collapse of the soviet union and thats why we couldnt come up with a plan. Today we have to learn from the lesson and come up with a vision that will help us to react on the collapse of Vladimir Putin, collapse of other equatorial regimes and terrorist groups. Because it was we react properly, and lets we help it happen rather sooner than later we may be facing, be in a new cycle of even more lethal threats. Host and you on booktv in new york weve been talking with terri kasparov, world chess champion author. Here is his most recent book. Its out in october, turn 11 winter is coming why Vladimir Putin and the enemies of the free world must be stopped. Youre watching booktv on location in new york booktv is on twitter and facebook, and we want to hear from you. Tweetit us, tritt. Com booktv, or post a comment on our Facebook Page facebook. Com booktv. Host damon tweedy, whats your day job . Guest im a psychiatrist at duke medical school, and i divide that time between treating patients psychiatry, and teaching medical students and residents. Host what made you go into psychiatry . Guest great question. When i was in medical school, i was deciding between psychiatry and cardiology, which are two very different fields, and i actually was leaning towards the cardiology part initially. So then as i was just, you know, getting to see patients and really getting into the nittygritty of being a doctor i found i liked the idea of talking to people and helping people through their problems in that