Transcripts For CSPAN Campaign 20240704

Candidates fm the libertarian, unicorn and socialist parties participate in a debate on topics such as immigration and criminal Justice Reform. This was hosted by the Free Equal Elections Foundation in new york city and runs about two hours. Good evening. I am christina. I am thrilled to welcome you to the second event of the 2024 free equal president ial debate series. We are live from new york city. I want to begin by thanking marie for another stunning rendition of our national anthem. And lift every voice and sing. Morecans identify as independent than as either republican or democrat. That is why we want to amplify more voices and choices to encourage discourse, raise awareness of the multitude of choices the voters actually have. Tonights debateil candidates running in this years president ial election. Candidates were selected by the public through our voting up. They represent a variety of Party Affiliations and bring an array of positions to theable. We will laugh targeting questions on the topic the Mainstream Media avoids. Ted by the public. At the conclusion of the event, we will host a poll on our website for you to decide the winner of the debate. The poll will be open for 72 hours toak your thoughts. Please join the conversation using the freeandequal. She is a former correspondent from one america news network, caitlin sinclair. A familiar face from last months excuse me. We also have from last months debate, jason palmer. Caitlin, what if you want to be involved in this event . I believe Younger Voters are increasingly looking for ■falternatives to classic politicians, certain policies we have seen for some time now. In my opinion, you look at the most apathetic group out there right now, the millenials. They do not feel represented. They are looking for a di am exs platform for all candidates. Thank you for being here and for thejason, we are glad to hau back with us. Thank you for yourion, together, which is cosponsoring tonights event. It is my pleasure to be here on behalf of the president ial campaign and aewly■ f founded corporation i want to announce to all of you. It is called together and its goal is to increase youth years election and future months. I have experienced firsthand the medialectoral challenges for independents and new candidates n■ who have not been involved with Traditional Party for a long time. Citizens deserve messaging from all candidates to make the best decision at the polls. I was excited to participate in last months debate and tonight. I may not agree with all of viewpoints but i welcome the opportunity to share their views and it is crucial for our american democracy. great to have jason here tonight as an example of how the Free Equal Elections Foundation focuses on unitletss in tonights debate. From the Libertarian Partyhave. Also from the party for socialism him, green party we have dr. Jill stein and Jasmine Sherman. Wels the Libertarian Party, chase oliver. We look forward to a lively, respectful format, each candidl deliver a two minute opening statement. We will ask a series of questions allowing a twominute response and a one minute rebuttal. Each candidate has four opportunities for rebuttal. We will include a few shorter rapidfire questions as a way to cover even more topics. Nute closing statement from each candidate. The order of the candidates was determined by a random draw. We will begin starting with laura please give us your introduction. Rigged, you know that is true. Are you ready to do something about it . I am. I am pissed off and im over it. The entire system is corrupt and only you have the power to unrig it. Our economy is rigged. Our gover4 billion. It is reducing your standard of living in the form of inflation. ■a . Pyou all feel it every day wn you go to the store. The corrupt irs has been targeting citizens. We need to end the regime of the corrupt irs and let people keep 100 of their paycheck. Only you have the power to unr ig the system. Or Health Care System is a total joke. My prices go up while the quality of care goes down. We all know it is a rigged system that needs to be turned upside down. Our criminal Justice System is also a total joke. We have had a 50year war on drugs that is a failure. We have to criminalizing people for victimless crimes and treat people with dignity to get them the help they need. What you put in your body is your choice and the government should have no say in that whatsoever. I am trying to unrig the system because everyone is filling the pressure. Whether it is your Education System, your Health Care System, i just want to make americans feel better. The government has completely shammed the system. Go t website and learn more about my policies, unrig the system and make it fair and have more integrity for america. Thank you. Thank you. Excuse me. [background shouting] thank you, security is taking care of that. We do not allow that in the room. Thank you so much for having us, free equala platform thatn the sham that is democracy in the United States. I am a workingclass secondgeneration immigrant, mother, organizer, educator and a proud socialist. I am also a member of the party for socialism and liber existed0 years and has been on the front lines of struggle across different fronts of struggles. Everything from defending our rights to housing, our rights to health care, against Police Brutality. We are actively engaged all across the country, organizing, end the dictatorship of the billionaires which is ultimately the root of our problem. The u. S. Does not l■back resources. It does not lack the ability to provide housing, create jobs, provide Free Health Care and educ everyone in society. Instead we have a society that produces misery, creates 160 Million People produces 500,000e living in homelessness. We have a handful of billionaires and profitmakers that are benefiting from our misery and suffering. Billionaires and millionaires who prroess war and occupation. We need solutions that meet the scales of the problem. We cannot continue to think we can refoit is urgent to get the billionaire class out of power. Our campaign is here to expose brutality and organize, mobilize for the society. Votesocialist2024. Com. It is great to see you again. We have been doing this for 12 years now participating in your process. In tribute to free equal, we very much need a debate. Njoying hearing things we do not normally hear. The American Public is desperate for more voices and more this is wonderful. My background is as a medical doctor, where i have worked for decades in the clinic. I became very frustrated with how our health cannot be addressed tried working upstream on social drivers of essentially stymied by theorm i powers that be. I moved from clinical medicine to political medicine to address the mother of all illnesses, are rigged political system our rigged political system that makes change virtually impossible. This historic moment right now, where the usual order of things, that of empire and oligarchy, is essentially teetering at the brink and we are all feeling crisis in our lives in virtually every dimension of our lives. The need for deep change has never been so urgent. The possibility of that change has never loomed so large. That is very thanks to the action of people in the listening audience, people who are here tonight that are really standing up to to endless war and genocide, the fight for justice in the workplace, the fight for abolishing student debt, defending mother earth and rescuing are very embattled Civil Liberties which are very much under attack. Tions are not permissible in the current political environment. Breaking up our zombie duopoly, zombie political system is essential and look forward to discussing some of the ways to do that tonight. Thank you [applause] good evening. My name is Jasmine Sherman and i want to get some basics out of the way. I am sat, i am black, i am arunt of United States. I am not wealthy, i am not living off a trust fund set up , rich parents. Im not looking to make my friends wealthy or write a book. This election is a black swan event like never before. A thirdparty candidate can win. We do not have to pretend that we are trying to move parties i, universal health care, Free Education and universal basic income, all my policies will be read to you on my website. Lets reset. We do not need to keep attending. You know what is wrong. You do not need to hear politicians who are wealthy and will go home to their nice houses telling you about the problems you experienced. You know thererefrigerator, yous no money in your bank account. What you dont know is what will solve your issues faster. Politicians have wonderful ideas. But what you need is change. You do not need some icon. You need someone who can make sure you can feed your family, educate your children, spend time with them. Right now our country is at the ipif you actually want to do something i would recommend you listen to a candidate who has a plan to put money in your pocket tomorrow. If you are not interested, go to jasminesherman. Com for more details and to donate because we have work to do. [applause] i am done with my time. Thank you, jasmine. Thank you very much for having me here. I think we probably agree there are a lot of problems. They cannot the mic. One moment. Can you hear me now . We are good. I want to say thank you for giving us the opportunity to debate today. I imagine many on the folks on stage will have agreement about the problems we face. My name is chase oliver. I want to be the libertarian candidate for United States because i know people are getting sick and tired of being sick and tired. Over 60 of voters have said theyre willing to vote for a candidate not named donald trump or joe biden. We need to seize this opportunity to bring new solutions to the table. My solutions are rooted in freedom. If you are lpeace, not committi, your life is your life, your property is your property. Not the property or business of an overly intrusive government we have seen frankly my entire adult life. I am 39 years old. I am half of Donald Trumps age. My generation fought the war on terror. Fell out from underneath us as big banks got bailed out in the regular guy got screwed over. It is my generation trying to raise families all over the country with record inflation caused by the overly abusive and intrusive federal government that continues to stifle growth. I got started in politics being an antiwar advocate. I am antiwar to thehe world ando bring our troops back home. We need to have our military removed from every continent. The only pure military is to protect us from invasion. I believe in the rights of Free Movement immigrants. We have an Immigration Crisis at the southern border. ■ it is the government who refuses immigrants to work and start their American Dream. I have also been a criminal justice refopeople should be onl Playing Field with Law Enforcement and the government when they get their day in court and that is not happening. Go to votechaseoliver. Com to see my full platform. Thank you, chase. [applause] ueimmigration. Reflecting the voice of the electorate, we askdirectly fromr todays debate. The first question chosen for its relevance and widespread concern. The evolving tactics of drug cartels, including the use of advanced technology, underground tunne and the smuggling of narcotics and human trafficking, what innovative approaches do you conceive to stay ahead of these criminal organizations and safeguard our borders while protecting americans and the vulnerable populations often exported by drug cartels who are smuggling. One of the things my platform does is recognize there is an immigrant crisis at the border. The u. S. What we need to do decriminalize all Substance Abuse items. We need to put Safe Use Centers in every zip code. We need to get people universal health care. It must be in your zip code. You must have access. It should include your prescriptions and holistic care. By making sure we go ahead and make the country easy to access, the same way it is easy to n people were coming to ellis island, we would not have the border crisis. What we need to do is make sure we provide more medical staff, treat drug issues like a chemical dependency problem and disease they are instead of pretending theseblems are bigger and not solvable. We have the funds to do it. What we do not have his leaders willing to put doctors in every zip code. We do not have leaders were not trying to play nice with the bad guy. We need younger leadership, more direction, entry americans the way they want to be treated. I understand we have allowed our government to make us think people are flooding our borders and to think america is under invasion but that is not accurate. We have tons of room in this country for more people. We had tons of room when people were taking over and jenna siding Indigenous People here and genociding Indigenous People here. We should reform the system and put money back in americans there is space for all of us. The difference is we need to be working towards making this country better. I am done with my time. [applause] chase. Great. You talk about how we are digging tunnels. This is a perfect reason we dont need a giantall on our southern border full of razor wire, stealing peoples property to build that. We need to have an ellis island style immigration system. 6you should be able to come to report of entry, do a quick check, and come here and get to work. There are jobs that need to be filled. There are people willing to do that and we need to keep the government from getting in the way of those people. If you look at the number of businesses crated by nate born or firstgeneration immigrants, immigrants improve our economy and increase the economic pie fortalking about defunding cart, the best way to do that is eliminate the war on drugs and remove the profit motive for cartels. People to come through ports of entry easily, we would be able to put our focus on human trafficking. Let peaceful people in and let the small sliver of human traffickers be taken down by Law Enforcement. Is the time attacking immigrants. Ame slanders thrown against our forefathers who came here from germany, ireland, italy, and all over europe. Now theyre coming from south of the border and everywhere else. We should be welcoming them here. They could be the next generation of american ottoman oars, Business Owners american entrepreneurs, Business Owners, people who create jobs and prosperity. I dont believe in the scare tactics. I live near immigrants, go to church with them, and its ridiculous anybody would try to stop good,ardworking people from wanting to come to our country and stop there American Dream the way 40 of our country did. We need to get government out of the way. Thank you. Ta to mitigate the immigratn crisis, which happens to be a crisis now, but was not when the european settlers came to this nation, but so far, happens to be now, because its racialized, and gendered, so when we think about immigration, we need to think about Foreign Policy the ways the u. S. Has, through imperialist mechanisms, displaced people. 60 Million People across the world are moving because of wars, famine and Climate Change. We went to protective order . The best thing to do is get out of other peoples nations. Our solution is building foreign ilt on collaboration, bill on bringing back troops, closing the 800 military bases across thebe nato, shutting down the southern command, and putting those soldiers that are out there doing the bidding of capitalism, in this country to do meaningful work. [applause] lr lawrence . Thank you. I love that you framed it in the form of the cartels because this is the problem that i see in amprohibition does not work. We have prohibition in the 1930s around alcohol and what did that create . Al capone. The government creates monopolies in crime when they prohibit things and they have created a monopoly for the cartels. If you are in business, what do when you are in business . You try to increase sales and production. The cartels are in the business of selling drugs and pushing drugs on americans. I believe thn drugs has created more drug users than it has stopped. It is time to end this failure. Throwing more people in jail and spending more money on the problem will not fix it. We have to deschedule drugs at the federal level and in the cartels altogether. This will solve a big part of the problem at our southern border. We have chaos at our southern border because of the federal governments policies at the border. The cartels are disrupting the people south of the border and they are fleeing the violence and crime that comes with the cartels, so by eliminating them, we can get rid of the problems, but there is still chaos, so we need to streamline the sys come, find work easily and be legal in this country like my ancestors were able to come and try to find the American Dream. I agree with claudia. We need to stop the imperialism in america. We need to stop rejecting ourselves all over the world. We need to close down those 800 bases she was talking about. We could use that money to create an energy race that would lower the cost of Energy Across America and lower the cost of energy across the world. That would start lifting people up all over the World Without america spending any more money. Use] thank you. Jill . Many points of agreement rei completely agree this crisis of immigration is a crisis thats been created,y, by the United States through our Foreign Policy, through our economic domination, and through Climate Change where we have been the m contributor to the destabilization of the climate, and on the issue of economic destabilization, consider for example the number of immigrants that have come from guatemala. Where did that originate . That was and overthrowing the democratically elected government of guatemala but way back in the 1950s to preve so r people and peasants would have a means of survival, basically. That model has been repeated over and over again. Its been documented that the u. S. Has conducted regime change , largely covertlyro cia. Approximately 70 times since the second world war. That does not even include the wars we have conducted, which are of course another source of drastic destabilization and the source of migrants. And its worth reminding p thisd on economic domination has a name. Its called fullspectrum dominance. It says the quiet part out loud, that the United States specifically, through its military and the pentagon,ed wel regions of the globe at all times in all spheres of potential conflict. And we assert that power. Asserting that power now in the middle east, where israel long ago declared the unthinkable battleship for the United States, essentially safeguarding access to oil, which, way back when, we need that oil. Now we dont butill want to basically control that oil. So this is about reforming u. S. Policy and ending the s thank you. Any rebuttals . Any rebuttals before we move on to the next question . I would just like to say that all of america is tired of tching moms and babies crawl under barb wire at the southern border. We are tired of seeing people separated from their families. As ad we can do better. We need to end the chaos at the border. Lets move on to question two. In your opening statement, chase, you did mention that criminal Justice Reform was an impoangenda. There is a growing movement against what some call the prison industrial complex. N7america has more people in prison and jail per capita than any country in the world except china. You think theres a crime wave and how would you rethink our criminal laws and penalties for the 21st century . What steps would you take to ensure prisons are more focused on rehabilitation . Take it where you may i dont te middle of a crime wave. I think we are in the middle of an over criminalization wave. Oned the war on drugs. I can mention consensual sex work or any behavior where you are not hurting another person. It should be legal. People in jail for this and it creates trauma. When you take someone who is an addict and you put them in jail, you traumatize them throughoutrn that street. Whats the first thing they do . They go to alleviate that trauma with drugs. This creates a cycle thats ruining so many communities in this country, particularly communities of collagen those of color and those that dont ve the means to fight back when the government tries to taken down. I propose reforming criminal justice. Officers should be required to carry Liability Insurance so■ wrong that comes out of their policy. We need to do things like end the death penalty, mandatory minimums and private prisons. E government should do a lot but one of those things should be criminal justice. I want to remove the profit motive for having people in prison. And every step of the way, through even release and probation and the abuses of people paying hundreds of dollars of dollars a month to be monitored by the state, i want to change this. But we are not in a crime wave. We are in a media generated fear wave. Be afraid when you go to the ballot box because when you are scared its easier to control you. I dont want to be afraid of people. I trust that most people are good people and if given the chance they would be able to live their lives in peace without the interference of government. Remove the over criminalization of our society, and qualified immunity end qualified immunity, and get back to a system wherepl law. Thank you. My platform abolishes police and prisons. Switched to a system where you have someone at a home. My platform also gives everybody guaranteed housing. En it comes to preserving police and prisons, we think its time to stop dehumanizing americans. Anyone who has questions about my policy can read it at jasminesherman. Com. However, its time to switch to a house arrest system with a Community Task force. Abolishing the police is the first step. Theres no reason for a stranger who does not live in your zip code to be patrolling your neighborhood. It makes sense to start Community Task forces and pay individuals within the community to watch their own neighborhoods. And keeps peopleate the economy at home where they want to be. Thank you. Jill . We are indeed an over criminalizing society. The vast majority of people who are incarcerated have done no violent crime. The majority is there for nonviolent drug crimes. This creates all sorts of knockoff problems. Of incarcerating someone, we could be providing them with a College Education and ensuring that have a positive role and skill to be contributing members of society. In addition to our extremely oppressive and criminalizing drug laws, we should also be addressing poverty and the causes of impoverishment and the desperation that drives petty crime. But when we are mentioning petty crime, one should be mindful that petty crimes are so smsall compared to corporate crime and the routine ripoff of the Public Interest by wall street and large billionaires who also received enormous subsidies from the public by way of tax break. , the corporate contribution to our taxes, in fact, used to be about 6 of gdp after the second world war. Its now 1 of gdp. So in giving away the store to the most fortute those who are essentially rolling in profit, we have essentially deinvested in our communities, in our schools, in health care on, and created a desperate environment that often leaves people little choice other than a criminal enterprise, particularly drug sales. So by legalizing drugs and providing forcommunities, we cay massively reduce the incarceration. And people should also be pardoned and released from jail. Thank you. Claudia. We need to understand the very basis and foundation of the criminal Justice System in this , of the incarceration system, and its based on private property. Its based precisely on the control■o and surveillance of people. There was no abolition of slavery in this country. The differentiation of the methodology. People in prison still still do free labor for this country. Abolish the prisonindustrial complex that has a profit motive. We need to understand security in our communities as housing, employment, education. Those are things we need. We need to understand that the majority of crimes that jill mentioned are crimes of survival. Lehis country. And so we need to be clear that when we are talking about mass incarceration, does not protect society. We are talking about policing and the increase in budgets that happen every year for Police Departments across the country. It does not provide security. It provides violence and brutality in our communities. 2023, we saw a record highs of Police Brutality in our communities. And so we need to be able to understand the very roots to deal with the problem and not just the symptoms. To be able to abolish prisons, we need to abolish capitalism. If we want to abolish policing, we need to aboli capitalism and provide a society, create a society, able to provide us with our basic and human rights so that we have a reduction in crime, because sociologists talked about that. Where theres less need for opo cover their needs, there is less crime. We want less crime . We went to be able to provide for our people that we want to be able to provide for a people we want to be able to provide for our people. Thank you. Clearly the criminal Justice System is rigged. We see that in the upper echelons of government were congresspeople and the elite are able to g be able to get away with. Yet somehow theres tears of justice based on who you know and how much money you have. We need to level the Playing Field. Some of the ways we can level the Playing Field is end qualified immunity so police cannot hide behind aif they do d they get held accountable. We have to get rid of the profit motive and we can do this by ending civil asset forfeiture. Thats how they can fund their own departments and put money in their pockets and its clearly a rigged system. I talked about ending the failed war on drugs. And to claudias points, desperate people do desperate things there are people suffering financially and economically due to the way our Economic System is run so we need to lift those people up anl people. I grew up poor with an outhouse and no electricity and i was and found a large and successful company. I went all americans to be able to get to that level of success and have a standard of living we can be proud of. We used to have that before and i call for an end to the Federal Reserve its one of the key institutions creating wealth inequality in income inequality in america by stealing money from regular people and handing it to the that goes to the corporations. By the time it trickles down to the rest of us, we get pennies on the dollar. Wen yu to embrace our economy and get it going. We can get the economy and left economy going and lifted up and there will be less crime. Thank you, lars. Does anyone want to offer a rebuttal by something said by another . Claudia . Claudia i want to take the time to mention Political Prisoners imprisoned by the capitalist system because they hathings fo, for black■m liberation, indigenous liberation. We have people like Edward Snowden and julians of america refuses to understand that not everything that is legal is legitimate. Not everything that is legal is right and we have the right to create the level of society that allows us to live in dignity. This is what these Political Prisoners have done. Jamal, peltier, the black liberation movement, Freedom Fighters that after coming out of being kidnapped by the state have died. The United States government, republicans, democrats, the ruling class in this country, are killing our people. We need to stop that. [applause] chase . Chase i wanted to speak to a couple comments that have been made, particular about corporate control of our Law Enforcement. I am from atlanta. They try to slander us from oute truth is the people who are out of town are the corporate funders of the Atlanta Police foundation. So itimportant for people to unite together across this across the political spectrum. We talk about the 13th amendment and the fact that we had legalized slavery in this country. I heard a story of a young man who worked wonders 36 hours and sent his money thats worked 136 worked 136 hours and sent his money toeople of gaza and it was 36. Your Governors Mansion is being scrubbed by prison labor. Its important for us to speak up. The government is abusing people and corporations are the people invested in making sure we are subjugated by our government and we should oppose it at every le[applause] claudia raised her hand. Sorry, jasmine. Next. Jasmine i wanted america to know my platform is the only one that ends prison and lets everyone out of jail and keeps pele from going to jail. Thats it. I am done. [applause] on the subject of cop city, what we are seeing there is the criminalization of politicalbelf Community Resistance to the destruction of its rare environmental recreationwhich iy destroyed to further criminalize the to further militarize the police department. This is exactly what is wrong and its essentially criminalizing pele now charged with terrorism charges, essentially, for attempting to protect their openspace and their forests and who have now charges and are at risk of enormous criminal penalties and longterm jail sentences, and unfortunately,thf it. This is a growing trend of political repression that goes handinhand with the growing hammer of censorship, which is part of this oppressive political environment that we are now fighting, which is bipartisan, and which demands our resistance and our unified opposition. [applause] all right. I want to make a quick note. We will not be able to get to all the public questions. We will encourage our candidates and invite you all to join us on twitter after the debate or x, i should say. The handle is freeandequal. How will you ensure that tribal nations are adequate p beyond recognizing broken treaties and land acknowledgments . What will you do to address the severe, systemic inequality on indigenous reservations across the United States . What steps would you take in returning land back to indigenous nations . And how would you reinforce indigenous sovereignty and selfdetermination . We are going to start with claudia. Claudia i think that the United States ruling class has a historic debt to the Indigenous People of this country. We need to be able to provi reparations not only to the Indigenous People of this country but also black americans because this country was founded on the genocide and the displacement of indigenous le also on the backs of enslaved africans that were brought here to build this country. So we have a historic debt with indigenous peopl in black americans. We believe that it is important to restore broken over and over and over again. We have to level the plane, which means we need to work to rebuild those communities. Of suicide and Substance Abuse are in the hands of many administrations that have come through, the ruling class that extracts and steals the land from these communities, so when we are talking about a socialist solution, we are talking about understanding and assuming the historic responsibilityland that belongse indigenous communities should be given back. Being able to provide the resourcesecessary for the Indigenous Community is an immediate call and being able to again level the Playing Field and provide for been brutally and violently placed in the conditions of poverty that they are in now. I still have 20 seconds but, you can have it. Do you want to continue . Jill, we will move on to you. Jill absolutely. Those broken treaties need to be restored, large, open space areas and forests and natural regions and that are traditionally part of indigenous territories, which were stolen from them, they should be managed by Indigenous People. No one would do it better. Case in point, Indigenous Lands are classics for being subject to extraction and destruction and enormous pollution,■0 and Standing Rock, for example, in north dakota. The pipeline going through Standing Rock put at risk the entire msipi river and the Drinking Water for Something Like 20 Million People. The same is true now with the Mountain Valley pipeline, in fact. These are all invading indigenous territories and its the indigenous nations who are really leading the fightsovereio protect their land, but to essentially provide steward figp the air clean and the water clean. They are basically fighting for us all and they have the traditionawisdom to know the abe critical nature of this of these resources. One of the activists that they haveorked with with the green party and south dakota made the comment the other day that the u. S. And westernulf how much you have, but among indigenous cultures, the wealth as measured by how much you give away. And thats really consistent with their understanding of the invaluable nature of our resources, and in particular, their sovereigy must be respected before their Natural Resources are exploited in any way whatsoever. Thank you. [applause] lars, we will move on to you next. Lars thank you very much. The government has broken many promises to all kinds of people over the years. I am reminded of a mule and an acre of land after the civil war was done. Im reminded about how the government placed the native americans into oklahoma and into various states there and then, when they found resources in those areas, they decided that ■therwar their land and they would move them to some other land. We continue with this practice today with Eminent Domain laws, where the government seizes peoples property were, and they displace these people that have worked hard for their land, they have put sweat and tears into theirq land, and take that and give it to the private sector or to the government, and i believe this policy is a continuation of this. For native americans, theres been a grave disservice. For been a grave disservice oved over again and the government. Has not changed its ways we need to at least stop the government from behaving the way it does and infringing on peoples rights and taking their land. It is something to goes on over and over again. We have to respect the trees we have put in place. And where there has been damage to be shown it should be rectified through the court system. Th thing is is that native americans have been given a bad lot. Africanamericans have been given a bad lot and are suppressed economically because the government stole their land, stole their ability to have a good economic prosperity. And so we need to lift these people up by helping our economy grow so it lifts all people up. I have a plan to do that. You can find it on lars24. Com. Chase, you next. Chase when talking about the issue of tribal sovereignty, the baseline is to start respecting the treaties made over the years and we have continuously broken. Ne, you have to rectify that through some sort of recompense. I believe that can come through the form of land. That used to be tribal Sovereign Land that could be returned. I believe theres a completel Legal Framework to get that done. What i want to talk about is the fact that from the smallpox Indigenous People like cr ap, and you see this in communities all over the country that have suffered throupovertyl kinds of things and it relates back to the original sin of the treatment of Indigenous People, so i would s to respect tribal sovereignty 100 . I dont want people putting a pipeline on tribal land unless the tribe once it there and have determination over that land. Be selling that, should be paid to the tribe. It should not be taken away by imminent domain and other processes. It starts by respecting the fact of tribal sovereignty should be absolute. I support the right of tribal people, if they want to secede from the government of the u. S. , they should have every right to do it and we should not stop them one bit, absolutely. Jasmine, go ahead. Jasmin in america, police solved less than 4 of crimes. Lets say you bought a stolen car. They would make you give the stolen property purchased back. We need to give land back. My platform provides people with that means no rent, no mortgage. We cannot say we will give Indigenous People sovereignty and then not. We cannot say they need more than that. They want all of their stolen property back. That does not mean it affix m their home. It allows you to remain in your home and they have stewardship over the land. That means you would get all the morchasing your home back and still be able to remain in your domicile. This also means we end the occupation of hawaii, of guam. We also give puerto rico their land back. We have to act like we really apologize. We can83not do that by giving somebody a piece of something. If you came to my house and took anything, i would want everything you took back. It would not be a polite nversation about what is mine that you took. The same situation we are seeing in palestine, where israel has invaded and occupied their land, is the same thing we did to Indigenous People here. Im not going to pretend, and my vp and i have been working with tribes around the uny to wr ite a land policy with their voice. If you would like to participate in writing that policy, go to jasminesherman. Com. Your voice matters. Fort themselves, we are not kicking you out. You will have housing, health care and education. You will not have rent in you will not have mortgages. We can do things differently if we stop funding israel. Thank you, jasmine. [applause] before we move on, any rebuttals . Claudia, i think your hand went up. Claudia guantanamo needs to be given back to the cuban people. [applause] the decolonization of puerto hay nation the u. S. Has its hands and grip on, because they are neocolonies, even though we dont talk about them. Its important to make the distinction between u. S. Imperialist and capitalist government and socialist government. Not all governments are made the same. Jill, go ahead. Jill i just wanted to extend the connection between the Indigenous People of the United States, that is, the First Nations of the United States, and the Indigenous People of gaza, just noting that theres a very active and horrific genocide thats underway now. Regrettably, you know, there is a horrific history of genocide of Indigenous People in this country. And that is ongoing, though lowgrade, but that continues the oppression and hardship, the sickness, the poverty, the drug addiction and so on. Theres active harm to Indigenous People in this country that needs to be re■ctified but theres also a very active, fullblown genocide going on in gaza now and is critical that we call that and it call that to an immediate halt and stop funding to israel and basically apply a National Boycott and sanctions Program Towards israel. [applause] i wanted to add theres a bureauf government. Its high time the government gets completely out of the affairs of native peoples and shut down the bureau of Indian Affairs completel thank you all. Just want to comment that its interesting that we have two socialists, two libertarians in a Green Party Candidate on stage. Im also a Green Party Candidate and a socialist. Apologies. But you agree quite a bit on those first three questions. Im hoping the next question commedia get a little bit of debate between youall. On environment policy, andwith s contaminating the Drinking Water of0 communities and affecting an estimated 200 million americans, what actions would you take to hold the responsible parties accountable for thisfurthermore, how would u ensure the cleanup of the substances to prevent further contamination despite potential opposition from those Big Industries you have been talking about . Jill absolutely. Our administration would put priority on not only cleaning up those communities, those water sources, these aquifers,ally to, which have been the major source of contamination, and reflects again how dangerous militarization of the country is and the many ways in which it harms us, but its important people understand the threat that pfas causes, and while much is not known yet, it needs to be investigated and people need to be informed about the risks we are incurring, but i think its important that we not confine our attention simply to one chemical, because pfas is one in a long line of toxic and polluting su the first was lead. It actually took almost a century to children in the early 1900s. There was thought to be an academic an epidemic affecting yog childrennobody kne suddenly having strokes. It turned out they were having strokes because lead paint had entered the market and was being used on the porches of homes, brightly colored paint the tasted sweet. This is by way of illustrating that the system does not protect us. We have so many incidents, one after the other. There was the case of love canal and dioxin and toxic waste sites that came back to haunt us. We are finding these over and over again seeing it now in east palestine, where theres been a spill of extremely toxic chemicals which were ignited wh been and did not need to be, and the epa is actually colluding with the Railroad Company in order to do a coverup, and the community has undergone great harm. So this is a case in point of how we need a regulatory system that is not serving our corporations but us. Theres a vested interest in each person to breathe clean air and drink clean water. I think now what we have is government getting slaps on the people. We have tort caps, fine caps, all these caps that dont cover the breadth of the damage people are doing. I believe you should be able to seek recompense in court but what we have now is tort caps, so when someone sues and they are getting cancer or some horrible disease, they are given and dollars as if that pays the price of whats been done to them. I support removing all tort caps so polluters can pay when they go to courtr than getting a slap on the wrist. Its not leading to cleaner air and cleaner water when you give that protection to polluters. I would speak to t fact that if you want to live in a cleaner world, we have to stop letting the government pick winners and losers when it comes to energy. What is most subsidized by the government today . Carbonbased energy. I dont like the government picking winners and losers in the marketplace. I energy, so we can get more of that online, which burns clean, can provide so much power, more than natural gas or coal or anything else, and is much safer. People are scared of three mile island or chernobyl but i remind him those are rare things. We see thousands of coal miners who have died of lung disease, thousands of people suffering asthma at all sorts of effects from carbonbased would like toa policy to remove those camps and let polluters pay when they do something wrong. On to lars. Lars i think i have uncovered a new rigged system listening to my panelists here. The government is doing a piss poor job of taking care of people and protecting people from harm. Why isthat is because the gover, the congress, essentially, gives favors to the rich and to the elites and then those corporations are basically in cahoots ththat is why they are t away with these things we are talking about, where they are able to cover up things, and reduce the penalties that might come. Shields them from being held accountable and we need to end that by reducing the government and that. Thank you. ■z thanks, lars. Jasmine . Jasmine im excited. You know to know about you need to know about my triple bottom line accounting policy. Everything you hear me say tonight has a tangible policy, a plan of transaction. Americans cannot wait for someone to get into office and come up with an idea and then have congress and the senate ignore it. Americans needej to know what ty are getting into right now. We already have politicians that make false promises. My triple bottom accounting policy tackles the environment will concerns corporations have done and the human damage corporations have done. And we go back 37 years. I want my money from gm, ge and amazon. If you go to jasminesherman. Com, you will see the list of them. We need to keep all of our fossil fuels in the ground. My platform, a policy called th. We switch to renewable energy. We make every single state, city and town ada compliant, putting paths on sidewalks, because everyone forgets about the disabled, everyone forgets that the that covid is still a thing. Everything is connected. The pipes are dirty so we need to get clean water to everyone. We cannot do that through the ground. So look at my policy and review how we give you clean water without costing you more money. Everybody who listens policy is posted as well. And we need highspeed rail. That puts americans back to work and stimulates the economy. Thank you, jasmine. [applause] claudia . Claudia i think its importan e talking about the Climate Crisis, its connected to many of the human crises, social and economic crises, we experience. And so we can attempt to regulate corporations that run this country. We cannot. We need to see is those corporations and make them Public Utilities that shift to we need seize those corporations and make them Public Utilities. We need to give it to workers to decide how that will be utilized. One of the ways that can be done one of the ways the Climate Crisis could be tackled in doing that is precisely having, for example, decolonization of energy resources, a renewable shift from the carbon and the oil to renewables, but we also need to be able to understand , and jill mentioned this, the pentagon is one of the biggest lland i believe that cu of the military expense could do a huge service, a huge service, to the environment. It is important [applause] also to take out the profit motive of many of these socalled corporations that are going green now because that is also a trend. They go green but in reality what they are trying to do is accumulate wealth. Energy, for example, these cars that run on energy, are becoming a force of profit a source of profit. Sorry. Profit for these companies. So we need to be able to come again, extract the wealth o, again, extract the well from these billionaires making profit and away from corporations creating the crisis we are experiencing. Thank you, claudia. Does anybody want to rebut anybody else in what they said . Jill i have not spoken yet. My apologies. Jill i think you started us with pfas. Thats true and then we shifted to energy. Let me speak on energy briefly. Sure. Jill in fact, i would like to address some of the issues that were raised here. For example, a nuclear, its important example, on nuclear, its important to understand that without enormous public subsidies, nuclear would no exist. It is dangerous, expensive, and could not survive without subsidies. The Reason Nuclear plants are not being built beca is because they end up being huge holes in the ground. Nuclear is not an option. And in terms of whether theres some Government Program that directs us towards green energy, i think its important to understand that we have a crisis here of monument proportions, and for one example, understand the Colorado River is about to run dry, and when it does, the california agricultural system goes down withand thats half the fruits and vegetables for this country. So this is not something they can be left to the markets. It cannot be left independent corporations. There needs to be public planning and ownership of infrastructure to ensure our survival. [applause] allow me to defend Nuclear Energy for a moment. The Reason Nuclear energy is so expensive and costs are so great is because of the overregulation of the marketplace. Nuclear energy is not dangerous. Modern Nuclear Technology is far safer than carbonbased fuels that get trillions of subsidies. If we want to solve the Climate Change crisis and get ourselves off carbon based fuel, theres no way to do that without using Nuclear Power today. The technology does not exist to fully replace our entire Power Infrastructure with renewable energy. I wish it were but it is not. Harness the power of Nuclear Energy that does not put any carbon into the air. It is clean, safe and effective in todays technology and nuclear shows a smaller footprint than the three mile islands or chernobyls of the past. Todays nuclearmaller footprint. [applause] can go back to jail again can it go back to jill aga . More. Jill this deserves to be rebutted because its important to note the cost of nuclear dont go down just because you have a small plant. The risks do not go down. The dangers are still ever present and are extremely expensive. That is why Nuclear Plants have become so large, because they are not costeffective unless they have scale, magnitude, and by making them small, you ensure the costs are going to be even greater. So small is a Public Relations campaign, which is basically being recycled by the nuclear industry, and its a false choice to think we have to choose between nuclear and fossilwe actually have renewabl, which far under shoot the costs now of both fossil fuels and and this is the technology of the future that is safe and sustainable and affordable. ■y claudia and jasmine, did yu want to rebut . Ok. Chase i worked for years and the maritime shipping instry and it is one of the areas where we create lots of pollution in the world. We cannot put a windmill onto a container ship but we can put Nuclear Powered container ships onto the cds that could move products from one area onto the seas that can move products from one area of the world to another. There are applications for nuclear that could curb the Climate Crisis even if you dont want to build a Nuclear Power plant. You could build ships that could save carbon from being spewed into the atmosphere and products would be able to get to our doors cheaper if we utilized that. Lars . Lars im calling for an energy race. Part of that is abolishing the Nuclear Regulatory commission because they are stifling innovation. It takes 40 years to buibld a Nuclear Power plant in america. France only takes six to eight years. France is the leading country in carbon reduction in emissions because they are building Nuclear Power plants in the frenzy. China has a plan to puts online within 100 years and we will fall behind. If we do not start reducing energy costs and embracing new technologies, not just nuclear, all kinds of technologies. We should be allowing innovation in america. This will drive jobs, drive down the cost of energy, reduce inflation. Theres all kinds of technologies coming out, thorium salt reactors. E up the waste. People are still thinking of Nuclear Energy from 50 years ago. Technology advances. We areot still having big computer plants we have to feed with cards. We can do this. Americans have the ingenuity to do it and i think americans c iu. [applause] there is the debate you were looking for. From pfas to nuclear. A question on Economic Policy now. Nations have come together to establish alternative financial systems, specifically brics. How do you plan to mitigate the impact on the value and relevance of the american currency . And how do you counter the popularity of that bloc by engaging with foreign leaders trying to join brics . Chase this has to do with the tariffs we are putting on people, the ways we engage in trade, forcing other countries to band together to create alternative currencies because america has a dominance on the currency because we arehz the World Reserve currency and stifle other countries and keep countries out based on our political believe. And so its no wonder they are trying to make new currencies to get around our hegemony. What we need to do is we need to we have got going on becausear Foreign Trade wars lead to real wars. We need to be embracing trade with other countries so that they dont have to turn to other financial instruments. And we are destroying our own dollar because we have printed 34 trillion worth of debt. ■xthat reduces the standard of living for all americans and it means the dollar is not worth as much around the world. If you owe 10 million and you are only making 100,000 a year, you are not a good investment. Thats whats going on with america now. Other countries see this and they are slowly divesting themselves of the dollar because they see we are not a good investment finances we do not spend our money wisely or officially in america. And i bet everyone on this stage would agree we should spend the money america takes from its citizens more wisely and efficiently and we can do that by canceling the banks credit rds. We have to rein in the fed and stop the endless printing of money devaluing the dollar in thank you. T and reducing [applause] thank you, lars. Claudia, your next. Claudia end capitalism before it ends us. It is the foundation of this country to dominate, to have control, to have hegemony over the rest of the world. U. S. Imperialism thrives on that, so brics is not the problem. U. S. Imperialism is. So we need to understand the capitalist system under which we live is in crisis, recession, depression, inflation every four to seven years. Every four to seven years theres a bubble that bursts and under capitalism and so we are talking about an Economic Policy that works for the majority of people in this country, its ec. That is the policy. We need to abolish capitalism as it is and as it exists. Despite what biden says about the economy and how people feel about the economy, the majority of people in this country are suffering. We have come again, over 160 Million People who live in or near poverty. 800 people who die every day in e wealthiest country in the world because of poverty related issues. The socialist solution is to take back the wealth produced by the workers at Companies Like amazon, exxon mobil, walmart, nationalize and socialize that wealth. We want to be able to have value in the dollar in the u. S. It does not need to dominate the rest of the world. [applause] thank you, claudia. Jasmine, moving on to you. Jasme people, i just want you to know, economists work for rich people. Most people say with her boss wants them to say. I rarely find an individual that will go, my paycheck or my values. Some of them exist but not everyone is me. One of the things we need to do is end our relationship with the fed. That is not a government agency. We have been duped into believing it is. It is a private company messing with our lives. The other thing is americans need an indexed living wage. I will simple if i that for people i will simplify that for people because our Education System has failed a lot of us. If walmart raises their prices, they raise their wages. Wendys, f you, man. Go to jasminesherman. Com. Another thing we need to do is create jobs in communities where people live. That starts with mixed walkable neighborhoods. That starts with renewable energy. That starts with us stopping our pursuit of imperialism. We dont needo tdominator. Your money should be able to work here where you live. I understand the question was about how i make things nice with other countries and the way we do that is to take our boots off of their next and renegotiate trade deals. If you go to jasminesherman. Com, you can see my Foreign Policy is posted. Theres an audio feature if you dont have time to read it. We have to start taking back the right way to live. I know what was done in the past but i dont follow suit with people who dont look like me. And you know what trump and biden look like. Its time for younger people. Its time for marginalized people to lead. Its time for us to put money back in american pockets and they cannot afford for us to wait and make a commission. [applause] thank you. Jill . Jill so the shift in economic productivityproductivity and red wealth hased from the u. S. And nato to the bricks and that is enlarging, it is no longer just four or five nations, it is saudi arabia and a number of other countries. This is part of the u. S. Empire that has ended its last days and in part, that is all empires kind of come to an end of their terms, our empire is overextended and are empire is busy and expanding our budget and our congressional budgets on destroying other nations and we have moved wars and we have invested some 21 trillion since 9 11 in several wars in libya and syria and afghanistan and iraq, they are not over yet. Joe biden is bombing three additional countries in order to maintain israels rights to conduct a genocide. We are bombing syria, iraq, and yemen. I think it is israel who is bombing yemen, we bombing yemen as well . There you go, four countries as well as iranian targets outside of iran. Iran now has a mutual defense treaty with russia. We are absolutely playing with fire and risking Nuclear Conflict by are proclivity of the engagingv absolute empiresn its last days. It is important that we ship from being a war economy to a financial is economy on behalf of wall street that is rethinking the majority of profits to being an economy for working people. Thank you. [applause] get to strengthen our dollar, quit printing dollars out of thin air deficits we cannot afford, we need to stop that practice. Why is that happening . The federal reser, supported auditing the fed so they can see what is happening and ending the fed. Let us entire money back to gold, silver, saffron, something that has intrinsic value. That will strengthen our dollar. How do we improve our working relationship witother nations . Remove trade wars, tariffs are not paid by china, they are paid by each and every consumer and it creates further economic strife. I was a democrat 16 years ago and i supported a guy and voted for him because he silver 12 close guantanamo he said we were going to close guantanamo. I was excited to vote for the candidate and he got elected and walked back on every single promise he made. A libertarian will make those promises and follow through if we were ever elected. If we are blessed with the opportunity to support peace and off of the necks of so many people around the world and the war machine would get it done starting on day one. We want to walk the walk. That involves relate treating people with common respect, common grace. Free, teardown all trade barriers and let us see which economies can function in a truly free market. That is what i would like to see. It starts with strengthening our dollar by stopping controlling of the dollar and ending the war machine that is killing so many people including women and children all over the world what our taxpayer dollars, our bombs have american flags on them and engaging with real diplomacy and not being afraid to run into somebody who might d cowardice t will continue as long as republicans and democrats are out of the white house. La rep. Ogles for those who e permitted rebuttals for those who are permitted . Use money and your pocketbook today, universal basic income with money back in your take fuh. My policies, all of them you can read on myte, you can even schedule a meeting with me, [indiscernible] you do not need a reporter in your pocketbook. I will stop talking because you cannot hear me anyway. I believe claudia had one up . The very reason we are going to hold for one second. [applause] [indiscernible] lp we will let you finish if u have more to add. Thank you. Jasmine i know you could not hear me before but at the end of the day you need universal basic income, we cannot afford to pay 95 billion, we have the funds to treat americans right. Our elected officials make the choice not to treat you well. Bafta end our abusive relationship with the government or any politician who cannot tell you what they would do. Tomorrow is a politician th wasting your time. That is it. That sounds better thank you for that we will go to claudia and come to you. Claudia we have to go to the root of the problem which is capitalism, we need to abolish the Federal Reserve. No onee votes for them and they control our ability to live or die in this country. There needs to be an abolishment of the institution. We need to be able to seize the money to be able to provide a universal income to people. To have a democracy within these workplaces where people can actually decide how they will utilize their profits and how they will actually engage in being and contributing the wealth that they produce. We need to go to the root of the problem, time is running out and people are fed up and it is time. [applause] i want to take the opportunity to talk about cryptocurrency and the opportunity to take on a different type of currency. We need to allow american citizens, if the government will steal our money through printing massive debt we need todevelope. One of these might be bitcoin or another cryptocurrency. Additionally, i want to my concerns about centralbank Digital Currencies which are on the horizon. These Digital Currencies make the fed look like a little child ative nature of the centralbank Digital Currencies because it allows the government to surveilled each and every transaction that you real time and we cannot allow it centralbank Digital Currencies to take effect and finally, we have to abolish the irs altogether because this is the way the government is stealing your money and we need to allow citizens to take on a percent of their payche to pay for the expe things that the government has created. Thank you. [applause] moving on to our next question. National unity, this is fitting to have such an adverse use so a Diverse Group of individuals. It is a dream come true to see this group together tonight. The National Unity was growing public distrust and disillusionment of the two party system or are registered as independent then democrat or republican, this reflects political thought leaders that are americans are turning to others to unite our country. Given your policies repsetics as usual in the United States, can you provide a contemporary example of how your policies are successfully implemented overseas . Why should the u. S. Consider adopting them . How would you adapt these policies do you a country of 300 Million People . Jasmine an example of how my radical policy would work is the same way that israel is living rentfree on your dime, you could do it for yourself here. America already shells out enough in taxes to provide you health care, quality education. It is time that we actually utilize that for americans. I do think that this is not a race to emulate other countries. I think the whole point of being someone who is a thirdparty candidate is to continue the status quo. I do not see the purpose in preserving hunger, starvation, those are things that are happening not just inhave peopln right here in the United States i understand that the focus is people are worried about too much socialism and what you will lose, you do not have the lose anything for someone to get a bigger piece of the pie if we stop funneling all of our money overseas to baghdad and corporations who do not pay taxes. Some of you are filing your taxes and amazon money. That is messed up. We do not need to continue what we have been doing, we need to do something that will stop our generation, millennials, gen z, from suffering. We already know what generations that have been in charge forever, all 38 years i have been here are going to get us. We have seen what they do to our environment and what they did to corporations, it is not millennials who are ceos tearing down rain forests, it is older people. We do not need more of them in our government, we need term legends we need edge caps and term limits. Instead of emulating other countries would go ahead and do Something Different and be a leader for positivity for once. [applause] chase the great thing that libertarians want to do is end the drug war and there is a europe, portugal, he had they had the highest drug use because of hiv d and what they decided to do instead of cracking down, they decriminalize all drugs and destigmatize people using drugs so that if you want there is access and avenues to get help for addiction. Also, it destigmatize its use so that if you had an quality product, unit two to a pharmacist and they would test it for fentanyl. Nowt that i want people to use heroin, but i want to prevent deaths from fentanyl overnment sponsored addition program allow mutual aid so that they can better care for our communities, and that that is get back to the idea of National Unity. A lot of americans are sick and tired of beingand tired. They see this two party system we have been going through and they want something better. When they see alternatives on stages like this they may want to vote and when voters shamed them by calling those peoples boilers, my message to you is we are not the spoilers, the spoilers are the give us any otr way to make our elections more representative of the populations that they serve. Theyre happy to have your election spoilers so you cannot challenge them. I want to tear down the duopoly for all and the Libertarian Party is poised on every ballot, and we will be the move for change if you allow us to be. Tear down the two party system, that is w we bring people together, when we stop dividing with a false binary that is republican and democratic parties. [applause] wonderful. Thank you. Claudia there are twoquestion,d examples abroad, we do not need to go abroad to think about socialism. The wealthy have socialism, th do not have to fight for health care, housing, struggle against the military industrial complex, they do not have to do any of that, they have access to civil rights and access to human rights. The majority of people do not have that. I 9 of the population does not have everything that they need to be tl 99 percent of the country does not have every thing they need to survive. When we think about socialism, reorganizing, that is what we are proposing and it is something that could be done in this country if we are able to take back the money that has been kidnapped by the billionaires and that millionaires of this country. We do not need to go too far. Every experiment that has ever existed has been has been fought against, there is a reason for that because it provides a path for the majority of people in the world. Lienof people in the world who are at the mercy of millions of people in the world who are at the mercy of fivendo own more majority of people in this world. We are talking about socialism, that is what we mean, taking produce the wealth should control the wealth. When we talk about National Unity we all agree that we have the basic human right to education, the basic human right to housing, to health care, that we should not have to pay to be able to access those human necessities. Therefore, let us find our Common Ground in the■y■5 fight f defending what our human and civil rights are. If you are a part of the 1 that has should grow a bit of a sould understand that there is money you have made on the backs of workingclass people who are comingf■< back for what is thei. [applause] common ound, that iwh at. Lars i believe america started out with the right idea. The idea of limited government. Over the years, we have exploded our bureaucracy and we have grown more and more and one of the things i say is that the more government that we have no more mediocrity is born and the more government we have more mediocre we become. Government seems to grow and grow, ha y ever heard about layoffs coming to washington . That is what i would like to bring to washington. I would like to see a 10 or more cut in washington and get our expenses under control. Look, unity in america right now, we have the media pitting neighbor against neighbor, we have government coercion. We have what is essential one group of people taking the moral high ground and telling another group of people how to behave and flips and flops depending on whether the democrats or the republicans are being oppressed by government but they are being coerced by government, we need to get government out of peoples lives and let people live their lives as they best see fit and you know how to live your life better than anyone in the government. Why do we keep handing he abilil us how to live our lives . It is micromanaging what straws we can use and what forks we can use and what kind of paint we can put on our house. We have got to get government out of the way to let people live their lives and this will bring unity. We seeights and we saw in the january 6th stuff. People are feeling disilsioned because the system is rigged against them. I have 37 policies to stop this division in america and bring people back together again and part of that is our economic disparity. We need to lift people up so they are notdesperate people doe things. We have to lift them up. Thank you. [applause] everybody answered the question and we can have a rebuttal. Jill i think the lifting people up is very important and unfortunately it does not happen by itself. It has not happen by simply allowing corporations to run russia. Our concentrates itself and we have seen this over and over again through history. The question isot to my mind obtrusive government or utopia, it is how do we exisasif you aru have rules. You have procedures for things. You see the societas that have government that is not corrupted by the power of corporations. Onehing that the American People agree on among many things is getting big money out of politics so that we can begin to have policies which are rational, which work, and which people probably support. There is roughly 90 or more of the American Public that Campaign Finance reform, public funding of elections, so that we can get money out of politics and get people back in, it has been studied and nausea him and we know that our Public Policy is driven by corporate money and a left to its own devices it will continue to do that, left to its own devices it is driving us over the cliff. One area that is happening is health care. We know in terms of programs that are working around the world, the United States is the only country that does not provide health care as a human right medicare for all type of system which we desperately need. We have been the audience here tonight someone who lost his son to Insurance Company behavior and lost his son basically ca policy and pharmaceuticals were canceled because of a 20 fee that was late. He lost his Mental Health drugs and wound up with tragedy. This has been repeated over and over again, we need a for all right now. We need medicare for all right now. Jasmine this is not a rebuttal, it is that politicians who are on militated get out here and vilify marginalized voices, there was no bl rights, that is not how that happened. We have so many politicians that think and they pretend i care about marginalized communities and then you poopthem in the next breath. You have to stop voting for people who demonstrate that they do not give a damn about you. I am done. ■n thank you. Anymore . We move on to rapidfire questions here. I will begin on yes, no, left, r this question. You support hardening any of these individuals . Leonard l thiers . Are there any side the ones we listed you would want to pardon . Born all of those people. Pardon. All of those people. Among those who are incarcerated for political reasons, the man who identified that drones kill the wrong person 10 times more often than they kill the actual target, he is running in a high security prison . Nathaniel hill . Jasmine i am abolishing prison, giving them health arrest so theycan thrive in this country. Lars first thing i wouldo his part and in all four of those and anybody who is a truth teller, a whistleblower, and your prison for any crime which there are no victims release individual prisoners for any crime which there are no victims. That is why we suffer so much problems in this country. [applause] we are going to a two minute closing statement beginning with lars . Lars we have heard from all of the president ia candidates and they have said that the system is rigged and i like i said, i have 37 pieces of policy online website to unrig the system, we did not get to our elections which i think is one of the main things that all of the people on this date have to deal with. A Ballot Access laws, during menuing gerrymandering, the government rings our elections and i have the voters bill of rights which is my signature piece of policy, is nonpartisan, it can restore the integrity in our american system because if our people do not trust our elections, we have an nonfun not functional. Some of the pieces of this policy is valid access for all affiliation Ballot Access for all regardless of party or affiliation. Anybody should have equal access to the ballot and we see this with rfk being taken off of the ballots, the duopoly rigged system against everybody. We have a piece for transparency , auditing the vote of americans. The ability to audit the machine code of all of the machines so that we all know what is going on. Even if we have free and Fair Elections who would know . It allows the restoration of criminals who have served their time. It is allowing for a paper receipt to be printed at the end of your voting so that you can match with a government that your vote has been counted properly and we can restore integrity to your system. Please, if nothing else to take from tonight, go look at my bill of rights, get it to your congressman and assemblyman andy your everybody who is power because we needx our election systems. No one will be able to change anything unless we can get elected to office and right now this is so big none of us can maket. Igso none of us can make it. Claudia i want to talk about the redemption of the peo countl ruling class has done in the last five months. I want to take these minutes to talk about the fact that we have, we have, the u. S. Government and people who have been silenced for the in the killing of over 30,000 people. Jasmine most of which have been children and women. Claudia we need to stop fronting genocide not only in palestine, but in every everywhere else the United States has its finger and hands. It is not selfdefense, that is Extermination Campaign and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian People that has been happening for the last 75 years and we salute the sacrifice of aaron bushnell, we continue the call and the work for the liberation ofne, for Palestinian Peoples rights to return and rebuild. That is the type of to build inn order to do so we need to uproot the capitalist system. End the u. S. Empire, build a socialist society that is on the face of collaboration of solidarity and the respect and sovereignty of other countries and people. [alause] whew powerful. Jill we are at a historic Tipping Point right now. We are looking at the last days of the empire and oligarchy and we are looking a prizes that go with it, crushing inequality, three billionaires in this country have the wealth and power of the lower 5 populae population, 50 has exactly 2 of is the world we get if we allow corporations to rule the Current System of government that we have which is basically bought and paid for by powerful corporations of billionaires, bankers, etc. We crushing inequality, endless war, the United States is not only conducting many bombing campaigns, we are actually in 85conducting antit, socalled antiterror operations as a continuation of basically 9 11 policy. Approaching potential Nuclear Conflicts not only in the middle east but also in ukraine and potentially in china. More than one Nuclear Submarine alone hold the equivalent of 4000 hiroshima bombs. That is enough to throw us substantial Nuclear Winters that could eliminate half of the population of the entire country. Our leadersre extremely reckless terminally, criminally reckless, and we have a Climate Crisis floating unr ounoses. We put other options on the table, we be allowed to debate, educate people so that everyone knows we are all in the target hairs of this incredibly reckless and predatory system where the you call it in the state capitalism, you call it or much the target and we cannot afford to look the other way. We need change now, our campaign will be one proworker, antiwar, antigenocide and climate erosion campaign on the ballot across the world. Check us o. [applause] jasmine i did not step on this stage two play in your face and that the duopoly has taken us so far back to the only remaining solution is to do a national reset. But is reset. We have admitted that we can deny the truth in front of us, our tax dollars are funding wars and foreign lands and supporting several genocides. We need to end the obligation of lance the do not belong to us. Occupation lands i do not belong to us. We need to make sure that americans can meet their basic needs to be born not ackndgthat your rent is due tomorrow, most people cannot afford to put food on the table. Homeownership is nonexistent for youngy people, homelessness is rising and although we pretend it is not a thing, the fact that the population of the elderly are losing their homes because of scahayou have not been livinr best life, i know it and the people on the stage know anybody who is in office knows it. You notice they are not trying to change it. I am not a politician, i am running for the highest office of the land and i recognize that. I also recognize that i am standing every day beside you. I am acknowledging that is lgqi a rights, it is disability rights, it is reparations, land back, prepalestine, congo, it is time for us to showcase that we are going to do something rather than just talking. You need to vote if you want to to vote because unlike them i knowhat thirdparty candidate, show up, show out, and vote i am done. [applause] the answer . That is beautiful, chase . Chase thank you for the opportunity to speak on stage tonight, this would never be afforded to us oth and republicans would have control this process. I want to reject the duopoly and i believe the best way to do that is freedom and trust. Freem each and every individual to live their lives so long they are living that life in peace, that is because we all trust each other, we c that is a message i will resonate with millions of American Voters who are sick and tired of being controlled by an overly intrusive abusive federal government. I do not believe the solution to the pass will fix itself, clinical philosophies and structure the 20th century will not solve homelessness and help people in this country. Rwh will is returning peoples power back and central planners can make that decision for you. I would return that individuals po this country. We can form our own mutual aid organizations, that can help our fellow man. I believe that there of people who want to help each other. They know that the weight of the government is set up in the way the government distributes that help is not working for people. Ask your dollar and they will give you a dime, that is what the government can give you. We should decentralize everything about our lives, remove the war machine, stop fighting wars overseas and killing innocent people with our taxpayer dollars. Stop abusing people in the criminal Justice System and on our border who want to come here and work, get real opportunities by removing the power out of the hands of government and returning it back to each and