Announcer bkeye broadband support cspan as a Public Service along with these other Television Providers giving you a front row see to democracy front row seat to democracy. Congressman tim burchett, republican of that stat and a member of the Foreign Affairs and Oversight Committee and you were one of the eight that voted against Kevin Mccarthy as speaker, why . Guest i really had to pass. A friend of mine called me the other day and i was working at the house. He was going to have major heart surgery and he was concerned about me. He asked me what i would do and i said i didnt know. I was wanting to keep kevin as a friend. That was weighing on my hard pretty heavy. But my conscience was telling me we need to make a change. We havent brought up the term limits bill, we stayed home the entire month of august, two weeks in september, there was no urgency to the end of the fiscal year in october and when we did, we passed a 45 day continuing resolution up to the thanksgiving holiday which will force us to pass an omnibus bill then. They told me i needed to pass that so we wouldnt pass anymore continuing resolutions. We have totally abdicated our duties of really one thing, were supposed to pass a budget and 12 appropriations bills. And we just havent done that. I prayed about it. My buddy told me, he said your conscience has served you well and thats whats got me through my political career, if you will. My conscience told me we need to make a change. I voted to make the change. Host who is your candidate for the next speaker of the house when the vote takes place . Guest i dont have one but im not as worried about that. Weve got a very deep bench. Weve got a lot of people that can serve in that position. Steve scalise, Roger Williams at a texas, Joey Harrington out of texas, kevin hearne, jim jordan. I even asked Elise Stefanik but shes not interested. Some others can do it as well so im not as worried about that but they understand the urgency of our fiscal ship. We are taking in 5 trillion per year and spending 7 trillion. I dont care whos on the white house, thats wrong. As you know, our Credit Rating was recently knocked down a notch and that has only happened , thats the second time its happened and they said the reason was leadership, maturity in the leadership and fiscal responsibility. They said thats over the last 20 years. That cuts both ways, thats both parties. Host other than spending, what is your criteria for the next speaker to get your vote . Guest i think they need to have it sounds kind of trendy but i think they need to have a vision of where the country is going and its not to put proposals up on the wall and see which one can get the most votes. Thats not principled and its not smart and thats not what our country needs. We need someone who understands the game and is not afraid to go negotiate. We went weeks without talking to the president of the United States. If i was speaker the house, if its the devil himself or herself as the president , i would be at the white house every day talking about issues. I would open up those channels. I would go talk to Chuck Schumer every day. I would be on the phone with him every day talking about things, where we need to become a what we are trying to do. And i would open up those channels of communication. I think punch him in the nose on the 6 00 news or on twitter or whatever to me is its good for click bait and raising money but its not the way to go host to govern. Does your candidate need to allow one of you to offer a motion to vacate the speakership . Guest ive been asked that lately but im not really concerned about that. That was the law until Speaker Pelosi took it out. It had been there since the 1920s. That doesnt really bother me that much. It just says you get a motion to vacate and you take a vote. Its up or down and thats kind of the way it goes. Thats democracy. Thats in the rules and it served as well since the 1920s until Speaker Pelosi took it out. If the conference wants to do it, thats not a beach i will die on. Host after the vote took place in the result was known that Kevin Mccarthy was no longer speaker, what did you hear from his allies after the vote on tuesday . Guest i do videos on twitter and i talked about my decision to do it and it received over one million views because i was sitting on the steps of the capital and was heartfelt and i talked about how i got to that decision. I expected could possibly cost me my job but i felt the fiscal sanity of this country is worth it. They held over our head this shutdown. They pushed us with leadership right up against the line. On september 30. It comes around every year about this time, end of the fiscal year. There was no urgency to do that. To get anything done and i totally expect primary opposition, general opposition because some of my more wellheeled supporters, few of them called me and threatened me basically and i made up with some, they didnt really threaten me but they pulled off of me for good and i totally expect that to happen. Host threatened you . Guest they. Are not going to support me they are not going to beat me up or anything. They are just not going to support me anymore. Host guest no more donations. Guest thats correct. Honestly, the chamber of commerce crowd hasnt always supported me. They do after the election is over but they dont always support me to that point. I get that. They have a lot invested in the party and in Kevin Mccarthy but im the one whos there seeing whats going on. I daresay that he would not be doing some of those things if he was running their corporations. Host are you concerned you will get kicked out of the republican conference . Guest yes, maam, i am. I dont know about concern but im aware that might happen. I think it would be foolish. Weve got a three seat majority or something, theres eight of us, that would not be very wise. I know there is a lot of anger out there but they should try to work with us. This was all avoidable. I had a conversation with kevin the morning of. Ive said it many times before, you need to get to 15 or so of us that are concerned about whats going on. Get us in a room and talked was about it. That never happens. They tried to individually bring you in and the pressures put on you and it goes from the niceness host describe the pressure, what is said to you . Guest this is going to cost you they say. Havent we been good to you kind of thing. Its just the psychology of it. Then you get to the point where they realize you are not there and they get to the berating point and they show your lack of leadership ability at that point. They should have had this in there at the beginning. They knew where we were all along. Then they played those same old games. Host i will turn it over to the colas but what have you heard from your constituents . Guest overwhelming support. The base. When i came in last night at the airport, i had no idea. Host people showed up at the airport . Guest there was Something Else going on there. Im from knoxville. I grew up here and spent 16 years in the state legislature. I was the county mayor for eight years. I mowed half the people in this countys yard. Ive grown up here and i to the university of tennessee and graduated from there. Ive lived here my whole life. Im known in this community. The thing is, thing i get even from folks who dont support me, the one thing they do like about me is that i do vote my conscience. They know i dont sway. At least i think thats the right way to go. Its not because of some outside influence. Host from lawnmower two member of congress, were talking to ken burchett from tennessee. Caller republican is a first. Caller caller how are you . Host whats your comment for the congressman . Caller appreciate your service for tennessee. We are going to have to figure out some way to survive these disasters. We are not going to get a balanced budget but we need to figure out some way to curb these things. President biden was asked about that. He said its above his pay grade. He is already above his pay grade but thank you senator, appreciate you, greta. Guest thats another thing, disasters. We sent 114 billion to ukraine basically unchecked. It was one of the second corrupt nations in europe. Im not sure what the first was. And yet those poor people in maui, i think they got 700 per family. They basically had to come begging for that. I think our priorities are out of line. I think that something we should have articulated better from congress. We are supposed to be this countries we are not supposed to be this countrys checkbook. Host tennessee, democratic caller. Caller thank you, greta. Its an honor as usual. Mr. Burchett, thank you for appearing on the show today. My congressman john rose seems to be afraid to come out in the public and answer these questions. I will ask you the fact that it was confirmed with john kellys book that donald trump did not want disabled veterans photo ops, it didnt look good. I just wanted to know since you pray a lot, did you pray about donald trump disrespecting veterans . Guest not specifically. I pray for all of our leaders. I remember when president obama won, i prayed he would be the most successful president weve ever had. Im a conservative, im not angry about it. John rose is a good man come ease of farmer and a daddy with a couple of kids. I pray about everything. I pray for our veterans and my daddy fought and i have war relics behind me. He actually killed the people that carried those. I know about veterans, i know what they go through and i served with my buddy eli crane who is a former navy seal. My brotherinlaw cliff is a former marine corps sniper and my daddy fought in the war and my mother lost a brother. My mother flew airplane during the second world war. My parents were couple of badasses so i pray for veterans every day and i dont approve that kind of thing going on. I dont approve that one bit. Host before the vote on the motion to vacate on tuesday, what did you pray then . Guest i prayed that god would feel our congress and he would bring forth a leader. Honestly, is it ok if i call you greta . Host its ok. Guest we didnt know how the vote would go and everybody thinks you have all these statistics but the pressure was incredible. People were taking phone calls and being cornered in their. If you could people peeling off and some people i knew that were for it, we walk on the floor and i knew they werent going to be forward but we got on the floor because thats the nature of the game. I just prayed for the healing of our country, maam. The good thing about it is we follow the rules. This is the rules provided. These are the rules of congress. No rules were broken when we did this. Tanks werent in the street, we didnt tear the capital down, nobody had a fistfight. Theyre almost as been in the past and been in the middle of those. I just pray for the healing of our country because we need leaders, maam. I am afraid that congress when i was in the state legislature, we had a real strong speaker who was a democrat. He would always tell me that if you didnt want to work, you shouldnt have hired on. Weve just gotta get back to work in congress. These long breaks and things we take just, i think it breaks up it just breaks it up. Weve got people in east tennessee who have been working since the sons been up and when we come in at 10 30 a. M. Or 11 00 a. M. And cater in a breakfast and walk in to a meeting walk out of a meeting at 4 30 p. M. With their shirt tie undone until people we worked, they have a hard time believing that. Host are you saying there were more than eight republicans who were going to vote to oust Kevin Mccarthy a speaker . Guest yes, maam and theres been a whole lot who have come to me and confided in me that that was a good thing and that needed to happen. Some of them surprise me. Host how many votes did you think there were before the vote took place . Guest i thought there was a firm 4 may be. I wasnt sure. Host from four on top of the eighth . Guest no, maam, just four that i thought would stick to the end. I didnt know if that would be enough because there are worse folks there are folks out of town with Dianne Feinsteins funeral. One member had a baby and there is sickness and some people dont make it. They mightve missed a plane. Host you said there were votes peeled off that people were going to vote to oust Kevin Mccarthy and then changed their minds once they got to the floor. Guest yes, maam. They counted and honestly, i told some folks, i said im sticking, you do it you gotta do and they probably counted and figured out it would go anyway so they could be safe. And not vote for it. Host what were the conversations like on the floor you witnessed . Guest some of it was, can i do something to change your mind . I was getting phone calls from people that were close to kevin back home, texts. From semithreatening to threatening to i trust you, i dont agree with you but i trust you, im not there kind of thing. You get a lot more texts now than phone calls which is unfortunate but its a timesaver as well. After right took the vote, i was overwhelmed with support. Host all right, lets hear from emma in washington state, independent. Caller good morning, mr. Representative. Ive a couple of questions i would like to ask and if you could answer, i would appreciate it and i will take it offline. My first question is, do you believe joe biden is actually the president of the United States . My second question is, can you how can you elect a speaker who doesnt believe the president was elected. My third question is do you believe party over country over dish or country over party . Host we believe it there, congressman . Guest country over party, joe biden is our president and i havent heard the top contenders say that joe biden was not the president. That answers your hopefully that answers your question. Host joe in connecticut, republican. Caller are you . I wanted to speak to mr. Rosenberg. I was waiting on this line for like 40 minutes so can i talk about that . Host no, because we are talking about congressman burchett. Next is west virginia, democratic caller. Caller good morning, greta, this is chuck. Its been 56 days since my last call. I just want to say im going to miss bill scanlon when he announced his departure the other day. I was saddened because he had a huge amount of dignity. To your guests, representative burchett, last week, we came para perilously close to shutting down the government and people were calling and saying they wanted to shut down the government because they didnt like the way the government was being weaponized against the american people. This is something i take issue with. When republicans insist the government has somehow become weaponized against the american people, it throws a lot pushing the agenda, or the c. R. , say it is note objectionable to people listening, and republicans against it, it kept the country it kept the country afloat but yet, the democrats, with all of them voting for the removal, this situation would not have occurred. And i saw on one of the news broadcasts, not fox, not cnn but that nancy pelosi had told her party under no circumstances that was anybody to vote for the speaker to keep him in office. Host congressman . Guest Speaker Pelosi is not in charge of her party any more. And as far as the shutdown that is the last thing we wanted but three days of shutdown would look like a Summer Vacation compared to the collapse of our Economic System when we devalue the dollar and cause inflation by spending of both parties. We take it 5 trillion and spends 7 trillion. I heard a. O. C. Make a plea for fiscal sanity a couple of weeks ago. She is my friend. I think we need to find the common ground. Host some say the debate destroy what Bargaining Power is. Mr. Biden can deal with an internally divided. Chuck schumer will play hardball with the new hulk speaker whose position will be precarious. Guest a lot of these guys are not in business any more for good reason. They failed at their jobs, and i guarantee you we will unify around the next speaker because we understand the importance of it. Because it was not about permits as portrayed. Technical is about personality as portrayed. It is keeping your word. I spoke to the speaker about why we didnt have while we were gone the whole month of august and two weeks in accept knowing september 30 was the send of the fiscal year he blamed that on somebody else. I asked why we didnt have a term limits bill, that went to committee. I found out that was not accurate. I think we will get a real leader now and they will all explain what really happened after it happened after we get a strong leader and they will be patting themselves on the back i can assure you and rewriting where they stood in history. Host what is your prediction for how long it will take to elect a new speaker . Guest we will elect a speaker next week. We will have one vote. On the floor, not in committee. We will decide there. It will go back and forth a while, im sure. But when we go to the floor it will be decided. Host and one person will have corralled all the votes he or she needs . Guest correct. I think we will unify hyped behind one person. Last time it was mccarthys decision to go to the floor when he knew he didnt have the votes. He thought if it was accurate it went to 15 votes, he thought if we whittled it down on the National Stage it would work. But in reality tongue is better off i think it is better off if we handle it inhouse. Host who is the leading contender . Guest between kalice or jim scalise or skim jim jordan. I need to call back but i have not committed. I talked to Steve Scalise a couple of times. I havent talked to jim jordan yet. Host what did you say to Steve Scalise . Guest we are good friends. I think he is an effective leaders. He is one of those guys i pray for because he had blood cancer and that is serious but he is under treatment, he is a fighter and he was shot up on the baseball field when that democrat tried to take a bunch of us out. I talked to him about where i thought the country needed to go and he agreed. Host what is he promising . Guest not promising. I didnt ask him for anything. I just want fiscal sanity. That is the key to whole deal. He or jordan or coach hearn or any of them can stand toe to toe with the president and Chuck Schumer. Those guys wringing their hands those moderate republicans that your previous strategist talked about running up debt. Those are the guys that did it and they always want their finger in the pie and it is time that maybe somebody under the age of 65 started taking some leadership in our party. 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