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Host good morning, it is friday, august 18. Here are stories that we covered this week. First responders search for victims as the death toll climbs. President biden has a trip scheduled to view the damaged there on monday. And georgia charges that trump tried to overturn the 2020 election in that state. What is your top story of the week . Republicans call republicans 202 7488001, democrats 202 7488000, independents 202 7488002. Text us at 202 7488003 be sure to list your first name and your state. And you can also join us on social media on facebook and twitter. At cspan wj. I will share with you the headline on axios with hawaii. Death toll an estimated 1300 missing. The death toll is currently 111 people. The First Responders who search through the aftermath in 9 11 are now involved in this search as well as 20 could diver dogs. And Emergency Management leader resigned citing Health Concerns after the deadly fire. The White House Briefing about the recovery effort in maui we have a clip for you. I want to take a minute to betray what i saw while i was on the ground earlier this week. Stories of survival, the response, and the sense of community i saw across island. When i was in one of the shelters, i met with the boy who is getting ready to go back to school but he lost everything. We worked with him to find him close, backpack, School Supplies to be able to be ready to go to school in his new facility. Its stories like these that let you know this is more than just a impact with what we see on television. More of the vision more than the visual impact of the burned state. It is the feeling of loss from such a culturally Rich Community that was really felt everywhere i went. While the people in hawaii are morning and we mourn as a nation with them i feel hope as we begin to take steps that are needed for them to heal and recover. I also want to commend the heroic First Responders many of whom lost their residences while they were battling the blaze and helping to support those that were fleeing to safety. Its important to remember, this is still an active and dynamic situation. Our searchandrescue teams are working closely with the state to account for those still missing. Given the conditions and the need for additional resources, we will have 40 canine search teams on the island in addition to hundred of church searchandrescue personnel and more on the way. We are working to search for areas thoroughly and compassionately while also respecting cultural sensitivities. This is a disaster in this is a really difficult operation. Because of the conditions and fire debris, the dogs have to navigate the heat, they deal with issues of their paws walking through glass and debris. In these conditions the dogs require additional rest which is why we are sending an additional dogs to augment this. And other teams mortar he teams mortuary teams are already in their the experts will help identify loved ones. I want to be honest with everyone, this is also going to be a very long and hard recovery. Our federal, state and local partners are working aroundtheclock the clock to help those impacted by this disaster. Host also about that, the president has announced he will be visiting maui on monday. In the New York Times it says bidens visit maui to view the fire damage and first lady will meet with emergency workers in response to a wildfire that has killed where than a hundred people on the island. And the death toll currently stands at 111. We take your calls on what is your top story of the week. We have alan first. Caller good morning. I am so saddened about the island. My question is, i have questions that i would like for someone to answer. One is, how come more people voted in georgia than the population of georgia . My other question is why did President Biden and his son try together traveled together to ukraine. Mr. Biden went one way and his son went the other way to the board of Electricity Company i beg your pardon, to the gas people. Why did he actually go there . Why doesnt someone answer those questions . And my other question is, with mr. Trump, or President Trump i should say, was one mile away from the white house when it was broken into. Also, it is being said we will go peacefully. How can the man be indicted when he is one mile away from the actual incident. Host alan you started with the number of people voting in georgia. Where are you getting those numbers . Caller well it is a census it is on the american census. It is a natural fact and it is a joke. Weve got 35 Million People in this country that are not even on the census. 35 million out of 350 million population. That is. 6 of the whole country that nobody knows about. Not to mention the people coming in on the southern order border border sleeping on the streets of new york. The country is a mess. Host alright im going to move on to willie in washington dc. Independent. Good morning. Caller good morning. When i hear about the wildfires it kind of aggravates me because think the government is not knowledgeable and not helpful, since 1940s there have been programs with Weather Modification prevention. With colorado and other places, they have programs [indiscernible] people who do not believe that is true can look this up on the administration. Because anyone that loves one of these programs it is documented to the federal government except for the federal government. So it is possible to actually make it rain over wildfires so why dont they . Host jb in little rock, arkansas. Good morning. Caller good morning. The man that called that talked about more people voted in georgia than the population of believe he said. You know, trump complained about the same thing in detroit wayne county where detroit is located. He said more people voted in wayne county then there were. And bill barr pointed out to him and said you won that county. And he stopped talking about wayne county. Now as far as how he can be indicted for not being at the capital, he has to be somebody call for commander in chief. He said right there in the white house there ought to be a charge of dereliction of duty applied. I do not think there is a legal law for that but it would wear the case of him not doing a thing, not anything for three hours and watching the b destroyed. The b the capitol being destroyed. So maybe he should think about that. Host trump called a conference where he said he would share over or on georgia fraud election claims but his lawyer said there is irrefutable and overwhelming evidence in the indictment. I have a post where the former president announced that. Lets take a look here. This was posted last night at 8 00 p. M. Rather than releasing the report on the stolen georgia 2020 president ial election monday, my lawyers would prefer putting this i believe irrefutable and overwhelming evidence of Election Fraud and irregularities in normal filings. As we fight disgrace of an indictment by a Public Campaign that presides over a record making crime area atlanta. Therefore the conferences no longer necessary. Also on donald trump, this from newsweek, donald trump rolled out attempting debate. Base and he said reagan did not do it. We take top calls about your top story. What is your top story . Caller yes, i am trying to find a way to understand half of the countries reaction to the trump indictment. I stumbled across a tape of doom jones audio jim jones audio of jonestown. The crowd comes up in speaks and they sound like maga. Host in what way . Caller they are illogical and they are begging each other to destroy themselves for a reason i cannot understand. The wording is the same to the people at the maga rallies. And it is just colts behavior. Host lets take a look at the District Attorney from monday night. Today based on information developed by that investigation, a Fulton County returned a true bill of indictment. Charging 19 individuals with violations of georgia law arising from a criminal conspiracy to overturn the results of the 2020 president ial election in this state. The indictment includes 40 felony counts, it is 97 pages long. Please remember that everyone charged in this bill of indictment is presumed innocent. Specifically, the indictment brings felony charges against donald john trump, rudolph William Lewis giuliani. John eastman, mark randall meadows, john cheer bro, jeffrey jenna lynn ellis, Ray Stallings smith the third iii. Robert h ely, roman, steel, Stephen Cliff bard lee, Harrison William prescott lloyd, trey beyond see coody, sidney catherine powell, Kathleen Allison latham, scott lamb hall, and misty hampton also known as misty emily hayes. Every individual in the indictment is charged with one count of violating georges racketeer influenced and corrupt organizations at slow purchases the patient in a criminal so participation in Fulton County elsewhere and to accomplish the legal goal to allow donald j. Trump to seize the president ial term of Office Beginning january 20, 2021. Host that was from earlier this week. We have a call from maui among hawaii. Democrat. What is the situation . How are you doing over there . Caller you know we are struggling. We are struggling because theres all these people running around saying malley is closed telling visitors not to come which is not true because the whole side of the island other side of the island is beautiful and lush and we need our tourists to come and a lot of people that lost their home to the fire work in the industry over there in tourism. When people are spreading memes around saying maui is closed, do not come it is frustrating because we want them to come and need them to come. Or we will get a double whammy. It will be like, ok, this Natural Disaster is going to take out everything. Were not going to come and help support you. Host and is where you live on the side ofd is that the areahat was affected . Caller well we are around the corner. We could see it across the highway but we got likely lucky that the wind was on our side. We just missed being hit but we were still up all night making sure. And people in the building evacuated even though we were not supposed to. Lahaina is a historical town, the whole thing is just devastating for everybody involved. Right now i see a lot of things going around trying to people trying to discuss and blame they love to blame our governor. When we had a democratic mayor he kept us safe in covid, they voted in a republican mayor who ran the water to fire hydrants were empty. The fire official was on vacation. They dropped the ball. Nobody wants to take responsibility area youre going to get your news from maui, do not listen to the tiktok reels and conspiracy theorists. There was no genocide, there was no nothing. People were talking about explosions at the gas station every gas station exploded and pain pain. Close knit, i lived down there for years and work down there for years. It is so painful for all of us. When i feel this nonsense going around, i feel like stop trying to pass blame just because it is democrats. Josh is a good governor and he already it this down so that there could be no land grabs. The things on tiktok about land grabs are not happening. All the resorts and timeshares and local owners for some of the bed and breakfast and Vacation Rentals have opened up their spaces for everyone this place. It is a very tightknit community. Host we certainly wish you the best and everybody there in maui. Joyce Portland Oregon independent good morning. Caller good morning how are you . Host good, go ahead. Caller well i called in to say about the alabama i thought it was how they all rallied around the one security guard, he was actually the cocaptain. They help this man. And when i see some of the india of a caucasian people the video of the caucasian people speaking up for the black community and i thought that was a great thing because it is about time that they do that to get rid of this racist phase. I wonderful i thought it was wonderful how they rallied around and talked inlet other people know that no, the other Party Started it. The family started it. I thought that was just a blessing for everybody because everybody got to go home and even if they went to jail or whatever but everybody was alive when it was all over with. That is what i call success. I thought it was beautiful down there in the south because i do not really care for the south, i would never live there, i would not want to be buried there because i know how them people are. But i thought this was beautiful even though it was something that should not have happened, but still, i thought it was a good thing because everybody got to walk away. Host ok mary lou says her top stories of the week are but georgia indictment of trump and President Biden holding a sub it with the work done by the administration to ensure the release of americans from iran. Add democrat caller, good morning. Caller good morning how are you doing . Host good. Caller i was calling about on the news you turn on the tv and all you hear about is this chaos with this donald trump and i do not understand some of the American People why they praise this man. This man does wrong things and they give him a pass to keep doing the same, not the same, but Different Things over and over. Nothing is said. If donald trump was black, he would have and probably locked up. And we are supposed to have People Justice and they address this, and this man just has chaos all by himself. He lies all the time and people believe him. It is frustrating. Our country needs to get back to the way it needs to be, clean house on capitol hill, clean it out and get some people in office thats going to represent the people and do the right thing. You taken of to god, when you get elected you take and both and we did not meet all of this chaos and lies and do things you do not want to be accountable for. It does not make sense you have eyes to see, but you dont see. You have ears to hear, but you do not hear. In the meantime the children in georgia are suffering. We have smart kids out here, and we should not lay this kind of stuff on them. We are adult and we should i pray to god. And man do not keep raising man, we are going to keep getting this stuff they keeps coming on our country back to back, back to back, were going to keep getting it because we did not let god in our life. Were going to keep getting what we to get. Host henderson North Carolina. Good morning. Caller my top story is on wednesday North Carolina General Assembly voted for the governors veto on the band for gender health care for children. There was a whole bunch of bills introduced earlier in the session. And we have representatives, Jennifer Baucom who was one of those to ask her why she wants to target children for legislation. She replied that 80 of North Carolina have the right for children that have gender that is an extremely madeup number and when i asked where she got the information from she refused to provide me with any of the actual information. She does not know what that health care is and that is the problem. We have legislators trying to impose their worldview on people who they have no idea what they are going through. I am tired of having to fight this fight. I do not know if cspan brings on state politicians but she would be a great one to bring on because she will not answer me or other both who have calls called to ask about this. It is happening all over the country and able take a large effort to be able to stop this. Host here is an article about what the caller mention. Veto overridden the ban on gender affirming care for minors takes effect in North Carolina. Gop majorities in the house that is on politico. Com if you want to take a look. The next is sonia in butler. Republican. Caller yes, i have a question. May be a comment, everybody keeps talking about President Trump, i do not know why they keep doing it except all it does is keep biden out of the news. Buyer they not going after joe biden and his son and the laptop from hell . Look at all the stuff President Trump has done for our country and look at what gas was gas here in butler when trump was in office was 1. 38 a gallon. One dollar 38 cents now we are back up to almost four dollars a gallon. Joe biden did that with the stroke of the pin when he got rid of the keystone pipeline. He does not even know where he is at. Thank you. Host we are asking about your top story for the week. Phone numbers are on the screen and. And some of the top stories for the response is Donald Trumps fourth indictment in georgia. The Inflation Reduction Act had its anniversary this week. There was also a ruling on the Abortion Pills meza per stone and the ongoing plans for the iran u. S. Prisoner swap. The last piece about iran will talk about later in the program so be sure to stay tuned for that. Savannah georgia, democrat, willie. Good morning. Caller good morning how are you doing this morning . Host . I am doing great. Go ahead. Caller i want to talk about that delegation in hawaii. I think what the American People should understand it is for each one of us to contribute toward bringing that country and city back to where it is with tourism. I would just say that i hope that all of the bs in the United States of america, with it i hope that they pause and think about what they give. I am a dock worker in georgia, i want you to know that this devastates me to think about how we cannot come together right now as one. That we cannot build the city back. The b and s the billionaires in this country to put forth money to build this country back. That is one of the top stories i want to talk about. I just will not engage in the politics of donald trump. I think he is taking over the news cycle when we should be talking about people in washington, we should be focusing our attention. Each one of us have pledged in my union in savannah, georgia to get those people back to reality. That is the american way. Here is a chance for all the billionaires to stop bio stop stop palling their money and send money over to hawaii to make sure that country gets back to where there is multi tourism and go back. That is my top story today. I want to thank you for bringing this Program Every day. I enjoy it. I get up every morning and the first thing i do is turn on cspan because i enjoy hearing of the comments. The young lady that spoke about the maui situation and whether governor is doing, i praise her and i raise the governor. Thank you for taking bach call. Host gilbert, birmingham alabama. Caller my top story is the junior senator of alabama, when there was the reporter and the other the senior i forget his name right off the top of my head because he has nothing to talk about. We are here in alabama with the Alabama State legislature and of want to draw the lines for that and redistrict. All of this happening in montgomery. It is about time that the state of alabama got National Attention for the behavior negative behavior they have taken to defending lack people. And it behooves me that that the federal government said that they with the state governor because they will not put the decision on our dollars coming to the state of alabama. It is a sad, sad day. When those leaders of alabama continued to go through what we go through and federal government seem to be getting weak kneed with the confederacy that exist in the state of alabama. Thank you. Host winter garden, Florida Republican line. Arthur. How are you . Caller yes i have two things i want to bring up. One is, there is a number of people who where someone was being attacked in the golf in alabama rather than saying they went in there and they took action to stop that. And secondly, with our involvement, ukraine, as much as i sympathize, our nation is at a financial crisis right now. We cannot afford to be spreading out money all over the world. No matter how much no matter how much a person is hurting, america cannot just be Holding Hands and expect the payrolls to come. Host alright oliver is next in fall church virginia. Democrat. Good morning. Caller good morning, can you hear me . Host i can go ahead. Caller ok, sweetheart. I am calling to respond to the lady from missouri. It is amazing that she is raining that joe biden is not controlling the gas prices with what is going on in this country. Donald trump has led an attack on the federal government. And where was she at on january 6 people stormed the capital and we come to find out that it was all a big conspiracy with donald trump at the head of it. Joe biden is doing the best that he can after what he filed in august. He is doing a great job and she is complaining about the gas prices when donald trump is trying to take the right to vote away from her so many people in the country because people will not support that craziness that he is a part of. And i guess the lady from missouri is a part of it to if she cannot see that this man is a complete a complete attack on our federal government. It is pretty amazing. Host lets hear from the former president he was a guest of his former Economic Advisor on foxbusiness yesterday and he was asked about the most recent indictment in Fulton County, georgia. It is just a continuation. They want to silence you. They mean silence, they are i think they are sick people people that have no idea how the world works and no idea how the anger they cause. We have a tremendous root of p in this country. Not just republicans, we have them on both sides. And when they watch us on this disgusting situation with what they do with fundraising she and her case. They are all bad but in her case and i have four of them creative you look at it over the last couple months, this is not even possible. This discredits everything that they are all similar in the sense that there is no basis for them. We have the president ial records which by the way this guy is probably 20 more boxes than anyone has ever had. And he has done it wrong, but it is a very sad thing when you look at it and then you look at the suppression. They want to rest you and they dont ever want to talk about the election areas when you talk about an election they put you in jail. Host that is from last night. Brian is the governor in georgia. Republican. He it out of posting on this a few days ago saying that 2020 election in georgia was not stolen. For three years now anyone with evidence of fraud has failed to come forward underwrote and prove anything in a court of law. Our elections in georgia are secure and fair and will continue to be as long as i am governor. And we go to kolodny, democrat. Good morning. Host caller the American Rescue plan strengthens our economy. The chips act as manufacturing jobs and reduces reliance on china. That is the school in jewish history. Unemployment is 50 years. The best investment ever. Theres about 10 more, but i wanted to mention that republicans tried to stop all of it, all of it. The sham hearings with no evidence to back them, they are against, they are antiabortion, and they make it easier for the most wealthiest people to cheat on taxes. That is pretty much what it was. So i do not know why everybody is mad at biden. He done good. Thank you. Host roy in Georgia Republican good morning. Caller caller good morning. I am so fascinated by all of the misinformation and the news impact. It never was reported that the fbi and the doj made up all of that hoax thing that they used against trump. They never did come back and recant all about stuff even in the New York Times. People still think that trump actually was working with russia. They never heard the truth because they only look at the mainstream media. Now we have a real crisis on our hands with the president that has been bought and paid by china, russia, and ukraine. Nobody is talking about it in the mainstream media. It is so crazy how they are trying to protect joe biden and they do not want the American People to know what he and his son have been doing for years. And this information that he had. I am a retired military person. I used to handle classified information. He was a senator having classified information in his home that is illegal. Donald trump the president of the United States was a classification agent, the highest, he can have classified information, biden cannot hints cannot, but you do not hear about the or biden hear about trump who did it illegally. All abysmal misinformation did it legally. Theres all this misinformation provided to the country. The World Economic forum is trying to have a local economy in place. Donald trump told them, no, we are going to put America First and you that your Country First and we will treat each other equally. Everybody would row, but no there is a effort for a one World Economic Global Economy that has been pushed and rammed down our throats and we are not even aware of it. You talk about gas, everybody should know when you affect raise the price of gas that affects everything from housing, transportation, trucking cannot afford the fuel. Who will pay that . We were paying 1. 87 and i had money to go to dinner, to buy clothing. Paying four dollars for gas russian mark that four dollars for gas . That means i cannot do things to make money circulate throughout the country and everybody benefits. Host here ishe latest news about hunter bidenhe hill. Com. The judge diisses hunter biden misdemeanor tax charges. The federal judge overseeing Hunter Bidens case in delaware filing on thursday. U. S. District judge dismiss the charges after the federal prosecutor leaving the case against biden moving to dismiss some of the last week to whites was appointed as special counsel last friday by attorney general Merrick Garland after he asked for that role. And greg is calling from texas. Democrat. Good morning. Caller yes i want to make a few comments if you will be patient with me. Do not change our land. When the republicans do not like how it is going on, they try to find a way to sue you. That is the same thing donald trump is doing. And then they want to talk about what the republicans are doing. They are throwing things out here for people to pick up on. President biden is doing a good job but im not voting no more because it does not matter. Our state is doing the same. Theres prisons all over the louisiana new jails and everything they have money for that to house people for business and money. And other thing is i would like to focus on the crime being committed against black people in the country and asian people running around they treat us like crepe for years and we supported the business and black people were stupid and they go back into business with the asian people. Host all right. We look at what ronald sent us on facebook. He says the Inflation Reduction Act needs to get moving. Gas is up, groceries are high, Interest Rates are coming through and construction rates are not booming. We take a look at what was said about this. In 2030, the Inflation Reduction Act is projected to help triple wind power and increased solar power by eightfold. By 2030, electricity deployed through the u. S. Power grid is expected to be powered by 81 clean energy. 81 clean energy. [applause] imagine the impact on climate and the air we breathe. We could meet all climate goals by cutting Carbon Pollution in half by 2030. [applause] the clean Inflation Reduction Act and the bipartisan in structure infrastructure law we are using 50 billion to build up impact for Climate Change. This is with addressing historic route drought on the colorado river. When i said we have a concern about the river going dry and you all thought i was crazy and i wish i had been area i was there and the grand canyon, it is coming back. But the Sea Level Rise in the gulf of mexico and helping reduce the strain by investing 1. 5 billion to land trees and expand Community Parks and forests. Theres a lot more, you have heard a lot today i will not go into it all but this law is helping families save thousands of dollars in bills every year. It is a tax credit on rebate to buy a new efficient appliances, weatherize their homes, rooftop solar. The consequence of this is that it is estimated that the consumer will stay at least at 27 billion in electric bills between now and 2030. Host weve got about a few minutes left in the segment to hear your topic and your story of the week. Independent line dennis is calling from brookfield, massachusetts. Caller i would like to bring up the fact that i wish that cspan show last night would have come out about finding out about joe bidens alias and the money that has been falling around and if it is true or not. I would like for you guys to maybe show that to the people of the country. Host where did you see that . Caller i saw it last night they had macs and interview for him. It has been all over the news, legitimate news since yesterday. Also i have a comment about what the gentleman said with talking about biden and solar. Come to our area that is all you see solar everywhere. We do not have trees anywhere anymore. I am independent and we go both ways. Hopefully everything with mr. Trump turns out to be true and negative. We will see what happens. January 6 it will be good to see on tv and show both sides of the story. Thanks and god plus god bless the people in maui. Thank you very much. Host john is in santa paula, california. Republican. Host caller good morning. My topic would be in the inflationary reduction act in Biden Economics. All this money is borrowed money so when you look at Biden Economics, when you look at the micro and macro, on the micro level, this borrowed money is being used for restaurant, solar businesses, things like that. Subsidizing the economy. Unemployment is low but this is all subsidize money. But when you get to the macro, it is really serious. The Green New Deal faces three huge challenges in the world level. That is, number one, you have to have cooperation with india and china which we do not have. They are still polluters. Number two, which is really huge, the war in ukraine. I do not understand why biden is not in doing that war. Ending that war. That is a big polluter. The third is increasing the population with more mouths to feed to feed. My overall conclusion is that people are feeling good right now but we are living on borrowed money. And we are taking a left turn. There will be no results for global resort warming. We had the hottest july ever. All of this is not working. We are spending money going the wrong way. It is just not working because the grain new deal does not have the worldwide cooperation. We are out here spending all of his money. It is borrowed and fruitless. I guess that is my comment but Biden Economic is a joke. Sorry to say that. Host the previous color mentioned the house investigation into biden. Here is an article on that at the hill. Com. , rs four unredacted emails involving hunter and ukraine. The House Oversight committee james comer on thursday yesterday requested that the National Archive provide unripe unredacted documents and communication from the president with the Vice President as part of the probe into the president s son. Hunter biden specifically. They suggest that the provide access to emails from bidens president ial records including messages related to ukraine and the ukrainian gas gas money received by hunter biden. Caller good morning. My question or statement, the man who called from missouri said that gas prices rose because President Biden shut down the keystone pipeline. That is absolutely incorrect. That was meant for export only. It is dirty oil and car sale and. Highly acidic and it corrodes the pipes that carry it. It is going over aquifers. It does not take much to contaminate our water supply. Lastly, yes, i was trying to count the lies that trump said. These people, do not vote for this guide. Thank you. Host reggie is next in wisconsin. Independent. Caller good morning i am confused because after the 2016 election, we had kamala harris, and in me any democrat they could have a hearing on the Voting Machines and how they could be manipulated. In 2020 we had seven swing states their ballots at the same time when President Trump had significantly. Significant leads. And them joe biden happen to get enough votes to put him over the top and out of the margin. They put an article in time i believe it was february march 2021 how the insiders of Silicon Valley and other politicians and Industry Leaders fortified our fragile democracy. They did not read it, they fortified it. Statistically joe biden, donald trump with the bellwether counties, joe biden won 16. 7 of the counties in the united dates, but did better been our first black president and our first female candidate for president. It is amazing. This guy should be host what do using of the vote in wisconsin are the last of the election. Do you think it was fair . Caller no, hell no. I live in the wall. We are seeing kenosha, i saw tons of from signs. President trump put 40,000 people in a cornfield two nights before the election biden could not fill up to hula hoops with rest. No, i think they are just as corrupt as the democrats. They waited until after the 2020 election to clean our border rules. Host lets go to louisville, kentucky. Dan. Good morning. Caller good morning. The Inflation Reduction Act when they said it. I knew that it had something out there which was a Climate Change. Just like in malley, they saw that they could not have more because they had to talk about equity. It is amazing. The guy that was just calling, he was quite right on. You have a call earlier talking about jim jones there they go again forgetting that jim jones was a Democratic Party and he was leaving the people astray and people are just not getting it. If trump runs, i sure hope he turns the country back around certainly with the gas prices. It is ridiculous you have to choose do i do it or do i it do i get food or do i get gas to get to work. Host with the Inflation Reduction Act. This is a piece by jason smith with a headline saying like paying for skyhigh gas, groceries, and wishing the Inflation Reduction Act a happy anniversary. It is not fixed americas inflation problems. Ernest is next in canton ville, maryland. Democrat. Caller hello. Host hello. Caller i dont know why everybody is getting a lot of hissy fits over mr. Trump getting indicted. But, you know, if you do wrong stuff, you should be ready to pay for it. But some people want to do their own stuff and continue to press on without paying back. Anyway, mr. Biden is doing a great job. People should just stop and really look at what is going on. Not read all of the fake news. That is what i got to say. Host lets talk to isaiah in fremont, california. Independent. Caller good morning thank you for taking my call. I want to pitch an idea to you if i may. One thing i think they could really help get people off of the island of maui is if we had built a bridge that would connect san diego to hawaii. I think that would bring tourists from the mainland to the island of the island to the mainland. I think he would not have a lot of supplies being brought in to the island. I think it would help with the fire disaster. Host alrighty. Thomas, republican in florida. Caller good morning thank you for having me. Great show. I want to continue on the topic of hawaii looking at the fires, it is awful with over 100 casualties. It makes me think we need to have a better federal response systems and Natural Disasters. I know we have fema, fema either needs to be upgraded or changed to something new becse every time there is there a Natural Disaster hurricane maria, hurricane sandy, the fire in hawaii, it seems like we are completely on repaired. Unprepared. And the only respse when trump was in office and biden is in office they blame Different Things. That is not the problem the problem is that we need to be prepared before the fact. So it is are response system right now is not good enough. That is my two cents. Thank you. Host thank you to everyone that called in. If you did not get to share your thoughts, we will have another opportunity later in the program. Up next week include our week long look at the climate provisions in the Inflation Reduction Act. And after that we are joined by karen. Stir alone of how this impacts Climate Change for ranchers and farmers. And we will also discuss the administrations potential prisoner swap deal with iran. We will be right back. [captions Copyright National cable satellite corp. 2023] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. Visit ncicap. 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Start by explaining the impact Climate Change has on the agriculture industry and the other side, which is the Industry Impact on Climate Change. Yes. The Climate Change is having a huge impact on agriculture. We can see the effect of Climate Change in front of our eyes this summer in particular. The hottest july on record. We saw floods in vermont, new england, massive flooding in california. Just a year or two after a massive drought in california, and this is affecting farmers, farmland and the ability to grow food another buttocks on that land. It is having a huge impact. Even this summer, your viewers who eat peaches in the summer might have noticed a lack of peaches or very expensive peaches because the georgia peach state lost close to 90 of the peach crop because of Climate Change. Because of a warmer winter that made trees bloom too early and then a cold breeze in march that destroyed the crop. We are seeing all kinds of effects of Climate Change on the agriculture industry, so you asked about the effect of the industry on Climate Change. Right now, according to the u. S. Environmental protection agency, the Agriculture Sector is responsible for 10 of the trapped gases that cause Climate Change read that is from everything from tractors and other equipment that run on fossil fuels like cars and trucks, releasing Carbon Dioxide is the atmosphere, but also other gases that are particularly damaging. So nitrous oxide is one of those, and it comes from overuse of fertilizer and poor soil Management Practices on farms. It is 300 times more then cover dioxide. Farming has an impact as well. The act includes nearly 40 billion for agriculture and role development. What are those how significant is that for the challenges you just outlined . And celebrating theyearold laws, President Biden calls the ira transformational and that is true for the Clean Energy Economy and manufacturing jobs in transportation and all the rest you might think of associate with Climate Change, but this can also begin a needed transformation of u. S. Agriculture, and that is a transformation that must again out for all of the reasons i just talked about. So, you mention 40 billion for agriculture specifically, that included for 3m world evolvement. Over five years it is ruled by the department of agriculture that helps farmers change their practices, what in place conservation practices of all kinds. They actually can help fight Climate Change, can make farmland and farming more resilient to the Climate Changes we are already seeing, and other benefits as well. Cleaner water and air. More productivity for farmers over time. With the practices that this money will go to underwrite. I will put on the screen some of the numbers. I wont read through all of them. Agriculture, cservation funding. Part of this is 300 million for the u. S. Department of agriculture to assess the climate benefits of healthy soil. For those that might question the amount, why is that important . It is important. It is a small piece of the agriculture provision of this law, but is important because just like, people may know that trees absorb Carbon Dioxide, that can help fight Climate Change, but farmland and crops could also absorb large quantities of Carbon Dioxide. We dont know exactly how that happens and we dont know the best way to keep Carbon Dioxide in the soil for a long time. Part of the solution to Climate Change, which they want to be, then we need a little bit better understanding of how best to absorbency heat trapping gas from the atmosphere, pull it into the soil where it can help fight Climate Change. If our viewers would like to weigh in, ask questions or make a comment, you can do so. Our lines are regional. The numbers are on the screen. We also of a line set aside for those who are to the agricultural industry. You are with the union of concerned scientists. Can you tell us about the work that you do and what your specific role is. We are and organization, a sciencebased organization that is working to create a healthier , safer and more sustainable world. The agriculture and food program , we are working to make our system more sustainable, healthier, more fair and equitable. Really, we are looking to help farmers and ranchers to fight the biggest problems that we have today, and Climate Changes at the top of that list, so looking to have our government make more investment, that can help incentivize and underwrite the best practices that farmers need to adopt on a wider scale to do those things we mentioned before. Also, to increase their own productivity to clean up water, agriculture. It has a major impact on Water Pollution, so 1 run off of fertilizers and pesticides and up and local drinking waters. It makes rivers and lakes on fissionable and swimmable. They travel all the way down to the gulf of mexico where they wreak havoc with sea life and the fishers and trippers that depend on them. We are trying to improve the whole situation by using more investment in farming and these practices. It is been a year since the Inflation Reduction Act has been signed into law. Where are we on implementation and what are the roadblocks, if any to implementation. The way the law sets of investments is over five years, so the 20 billion starts this year. Then, it ramps up over the next four years. We are only seeing the beginning of implementation did this money is going into, i mentioned programs that the u. S. That usda runs. One of those is the conservation stewardship program. It is the Largest Program on working farmland. It is. Popular with farmers. So popular and small in its current funding that many farmers get turned away who want to participate. This is a program that helps farmers to things like planting cover crops in the winter between their crops. That keeps the soil covered. Seizes the nutrients that could go up into the atmosphere as trafficking gases in the soil, preventing erosion and all of those other things. Many want to participate in that every year. Three quarters of them are turned away due to lack of funding. This includes a large amount of cash each year in programs like that. It can give farmers the support they need. That program is incredibly effective, so my organization analyzes the return on investment. What we found is that for every dollar in the Program Helping farmers, we get, as a society, four dollars in benefits. That is everything from reduced fertilizer cause for farmers to reduce Water Pollution and the rest. We have a question for you on this for michael. What percentage of the ira funding is going to major farm and ranch corporations like adm, etc. The 20 billion we are talking about is not going to a big company, it is going to individual landowners and farm operators. Some of it is going to public or private partnerships. There is a Regional Conservation Program that works in that way, but for the most part, this is going to farmers on the ground. It is facing a crisis in real time, and they have some ability to do something about it and more with this investment. Lets go to the phones. Hannah is in gaithersburg. Good morning. Hello. My question for you is first i want to make a comment. The Inflation Reduction Act really isnt an Inflation Reduction Act. It is a Green New Deal. And that is the agenda behind it. Dont have a problem with it. I think we need to address our issues and the environment and with the climate, and i think what is being done with farmers is wonderful, but its a singular focus and i want to know why the president isnt going after the commercial fishing industry which is destroying our oceans. And why we are not doing more with our rain forest where they are destroying a thousand acres a day and utilizing that land for either cattle or for soybean. Those two things in and of themselves are having a greater impact on our climate and the changes in our climate. Its like focusing on the pimple on the rear of an elephant but you are ignoring the elephant. Why doesnt our president do something more, and for perspective, i think biden is a more on. Lets get a response. There are many problems we need to solve. She mentioned some. What we can do with this law, particularly in the Agriculture Sector is really give armors a tool they need to make their farming more sustainable for the long run, both for the climate, for the future of the food supply, and for the future of farming, and so, the Inflation Reduction Act, as mentioned, its a year old. Theyre all of these new investments. At the same time, right now, congress is writing a fiveyear law called the food in farm bill. That is a law that actually shapes everything about the food system. Farming, how its done in this country. Whats really important right now is that congress maintain an investment, that they talk about it with the ira in the next food and farm bill and maintain the climate focused on the investments that can help farmers and the food run and long run. Team steve is up next. Good morning. Good morning to the two of you. I was just wondering if you are aware, what you know about the seven year the 11 year cycle of the sun and when its Magnetic Field flips. I read an article about neptune and how all of the clouds since suddenly vanished from the planet of neptune. Scientists are looking at the 11 year cycle of the sun and i heard a podcast the other day discussing it and how every 11 years, the sun changes due to the cycle. It is a magnetic cycle. Doing thing about that . I dont know anything about that. No. If you have any other questions . I heard on this podcast that Mount Saint Helens emits more Carbon Dioxide than our entire industry has done in the history of man. Im wondering why its never said that the earth is causing Climate Change which is changed forever, but its man that has the money that is going to fix this. What do you think . Im not going to debate the causes of Climate Change here. We can all see we have a Climate Crisis. That is increasing before eyes, and really the only legitimate question now is about how we are going to limit the damage. That has to include farmers and farmland being part of the solution. Allen in your area good morning. Can morning. Thank you for the opportunity to speak with you. I appreciate your work. Im wondering, in the context of maui and the fires, it is becoming more obvious to the public. And i am wondering how we tie together these innocent acts into a large theory about the trump involvement in the attacks on democracy. Do you think we have the grounds now to get the public to think seriously about the large climate damage done by years of deliberate disinformation about climate that was kept from dealing with this problem, soon and well as we might have. Before these climate investors, it might have seemed different, but i wonder what has changed because of circumstances . Comment . I think there is an increased awareness. You cant help but notice what is happening all around us. I do think big corporations carry a lot of lame. Outside of my expertise, i do know there have been studies about the accountability of large corporations for causing this crisis with omissions, but also the this information your caller has talked about, so that is the case. The Inflation Reduction Act does not require an agriculture industry to adopt these practices. It is voluntary. Why is that . Could it a negative impact on participation . I think it is a great start. I think the programs that this new money will go into our already. Popular with farmers and oversubscribed. Not enough money, too many armors want to participate. This will open the door for more farmers who already want to do this and can see the benefits and just need a little help to get over the hump. One of the reasons that these voluntary programs work is that they help underwrite some of the upfront costs. I mentioned planting crops or other kinds of actresses that might new on a farm. Those come with cost upfront. A farmer might need to buy new seed or a different piece of equipment. To sow and harvest. This money will help incentivize and underwrite the upfront costs then, they will see the payoff down the road. 357 years. The systems are in full swing. You will see the increase productivity, the runoff and pollution and all of the rest. Lets talk to victor in california. Good morning. Hello. Yes. High. I am seven years old. I remember in school, rotating crops. You grow one thing and you plant another one to put the nutrients back in that the other crop took out. It is like a native american as this thing with three sisters. The climate you climb a stalk of corn and put beans around it. The beans put nutrients back in and then you plant squash around it to change the ground so they take less water. Id like to know about that. Absently. That is a good point. We have seen, i think, a decrease in Crop Rotations over time, and now, much of the country there may be only one or two crops. The corn belt is called the corn belt for a reason. Millions of acres of corn, and sometimes interspersed with soybeans, but those do rob the soil of nutrients. They reduce the biodiversity that is necessary for a healthy functioning farm ecosystem rated Crop Rotation is one of the practices that actually can help and can be funded with these programs. There is a longrunning study out of iowa state that really found that when you increase Crop Rotation to three or four crops, it puts a cover crop in the mix. Then, you get a huge decrease in the need for added for fertilizer. Huge decreases in the farm field. It is really a win win. Karen, we have this text from paul in wilmington delaware. It says, food prices are large contributors to inflation. Have the ira done anything to reduce food cost to the consumer . I wonder not about the food cost but the quality and what impact the ira supposed to have on that. Xes. I mentioned this is a law that mentioned can bring about transformation and this cannot happen overnight. We are really in the early days of seeing what this investment can do. Food inflation has come down. But it is something that people out there are still worried about. And for good reason. What we do know is that allowing Climate Change to go unchecked is only going to increase crop crop losses, create Food Shortages and raise food prices for all of us. That is something we need to address. All right. Craig is in las vegas. Good morning. Good morning. I have a comment, and then a related question. Im hearing that giants are buying farmland, and i want to know if they are eligible to receive any of this funding. Who . What . China. I know there are some in congress who want to prohibit for an of farmland and want to involve themselves in that issue. This is really the money we are talking about is really going to go to mostly family farms. Individual farmers operating arms on the ground all across the country. That is not an issue. There is also an issue of alternative Energy Sources like wind, solar farms, and taking up valuable space, valuable farmland. What are your thoughts on that . There are ways to integrate those things. Solar panels can be integrated into crop so they save the crop come and help keep moisture in the soil. There are ways to do this. They can be beneficial. Certainly, we want to preserve farmland for growing food. So, that is what i would like to see. Farmland that is diversified. That incorporates clean energy. It is possible and beneficial, and just produce a large number of crops. Your previous caller talked about this. I think that is what we need to do to see and promote that. Cindy is in st. Petersburg. Good morning. That reason im calling is in florida, i cant find the remote to turn the tv down, so i will go out here. In florida, the industry is tourism. The second industry is agriculture. A lot of people dont know that. What is happening here is farmlands are being slaughtered. People continue and continue to pour in here and move here. They think this is still paradise. It is no longer paradise. We are overpopulated. We are we have outofcontrol growth. Our farmlands are being slaughtered. What are you doing to save our farmlands in florida . From this development and a lot of this is caused by Developers Like desantis. He received 33 million, 500,000 from the real estate industry. He has florida on a silver platter. He handed it to developers. Lets get a response. So this law does not have a thing to do with the veltman pressure, but it is certainly a very large problem or agriculture, and i think the more we can make farming sustainable for the long term, profitable for all kinds of farmers, small, medium, large alike, we can keep farmers farming on the land. And not succumbing to selling to developers. John is in pennsylvania. Hello. How are you doing . I have been listening to everybody speak about the problem with the environment, and im all for being a good steward of taking care of our planet, but i sit on the others of the tents as far as Climate Change goes because i have been studying this for years now and so, i go from the science aspect of the cyclical development that has taken place over thousands of years, with the last few hundred years, so thats for another show, but the reason i said that is to segue into this. I want to know if your guests there knows what the most devastation of Climate Change is on the earth right now today. What is the most devastation in the world, and i will tell you what it is. Ive studied this also. It is the war going on over in the ukraine. There is more omission going out into space from that war than anything on the earth right now. And no ones talking about that. I dont understand why if everyone is so concerned. John, we are talking about the impact on the agriculture industry. Do you have a question specific to that. It is. It is in acting the agriculture industry more than anything on the earth right now. It is the omission going on from the war that has billions of dollars, but no one wants to talk about that. Any comment on that . Ask the war in ukraine is terrible for lots of reasons, but it is not a major driver of Climate Change, so no. Next john in california. Hello. Hello. Thank you for letting me call. I think that some of our leaders need to get information. This kind of curious that joe biden, donald trump, all of our leaders, they go in and they buy land. Houses on water. It is rising. Thats what they tell us. There is water. Maybe they need to read a little bit more about Climate Change their house underwater. Not sure if youre not feeding us a line here, and you are a good steward for the democrat party. This is the problem with cspan. There is no one to rebuff this lady. How would you like to rebut what she says . I would like to rebut that she is a good voicebox to the democrats. In what way . Give me specifics. She is just here flapping her gums about what she knows and all of this stuff, and someone calls up about the ukraine war and the nord stream pipeline. Frank is in hidden hill california. Go ahead. Hello. This question is for your guests. [indiscernible] [indiscernible] a much of this has anything to do with the agriculture industry. Why not . Which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. Visit ncicap. Org] [indiscernible] cameron in grapevine texas. Hello. How are you doing . I want to say, everyone is talking about the agriculture and the environment, and the climate control. They say they have shut down part, by dont if they have. They are still controlling and we need to get the finger off the button. All right. We have this from a tax. From mike in keyport new jersey. He is asking, is there an investment in vertical or warehouse farming, closer in the community that use them. In this law . I dont know. Mostly, what we are talking about here are programs that help farmers with soil and the impact of climate and the impact that soil has on climate. Thats a different issue. Tom is in oklahoma. Good morning. Good morning. In the 1960s, you claim that oil was going to be gone in 10 years. That didnt happen. In the 70s, it was going begun in 10 years. In the 90s, in the 80s, acid rain would destroy crops. The 90s, the ozone layer would be gone in 10 years. 2000, the icecap would be gone in 10 years. This is nothing but a way for the government to raise your taxes. It is all bs and what about desperate tom . What about plants . They use Carbon Dioxide in the return oxygen bread why would you want to take Carbon Dioxide out of the air. Thank you. Go ahead. Theres far too much of it. That is a known science. One thing that is occurring to me, theres actually great support for the kinds of grams that we are talking about and the kinds of investment, so we did some polling, just in june and july, and we found that large majorities of voters in the states that we pulled which were pennsylvania, georgia, colorado and michigan, see crop failures as a threat in their states. Three quarters of voters said they see that as a threat. This is bipartisan, across the board. We see that kind of sentiment. A large majority also say they would support the programs we are talking about here. The very kind of program that farmers adapt to protect lands and crops like flood and drought. The majority say they support that. This is something that crosses geography and crosses the political divide. There is great support for helping farmers in this way. It safeguards the future of farming and food supply. Exley roy is in argyle pennsylvania. You are a farmer . What do you grow . I grow corns and beans and wheat. And hey. Different kinds of hay. And i been doing for six years. What is your comment . A few people are calling in, and they are this woman about what she knows about the Climate Change, and i am just wondering about ukraine, and and i wonder about whats being done to man. With the atmosphere, it can change a lot of things behind besides just Climate Change on cars and everything that they are talking about. Certainly, there are lots of things that affect one thing we are seeing, is Crop Insurance payout. There is a federal subsidized cop Crop Insurance program that pays farmers when they lose their crops, and what weve seen over the last 25 years is that insurance payments to farmers for drought related claims have risen by more than 400 and for flood related payments, theyve risen by 300 , so this is something that farmers on the ground are seeing more and more. It becomes more devastating and we need to take actions to address it. 10 minutes left in the segment to take calls for our guest. A union of conserved scientists are still at the Deputy Director for the program. Our phone lines are regional. Eastern central time zone at 202 patent specific. And, if you are in the agriculture industry or are a rancher, you can call us on the number on your screen. Karen, i want to ask you about the specifics of the Inflation Reduction Act read the agriculture conservation funding eight point eight 5 billion for the Environmental Quality in center program. Can you explain what that is and how it will be used . That is a Large Program that funds all kinds of projects. To improve the environmental outcomes and conservation on farms. It tends to focus on single kinds of interventions so things like grass waterways. This is where maybe a long side a stream, you plant grass on farmlands that carry runoff and water and not create erosion. Those kinds of practices are funded by that program. We have a text from john in new york who says what do you know about Carbon Capture and putting the carbon back into the soil . We talked about that earlier. Growing plants and sawyer soil is a great way to capture carbon. Right now, many soils on farmland across this country are have lots of potential. They lost a lot of carbon through erosion, and soil degradation. What we really need to do to capture the carbon in the soil is increase the health of the soil. We think of that as a living ecosystem. It has microbial activity, and healthy. S of things that are the more you keep it covered all ye round, the more you protected from erosion. You see soil. The better off you are. It captures more carbon. It also becomes spongy. Healthy soil is spongy soil. This is why it is so important or a future for drought and flooding. It absorbs a lotf ter, so the soil soaks up water when there is too much rain, but it also holds that moisture for long periods of time, even when conditions are dry so that helps farmers and the plants they are growing in the soil. We will talk to rob in North Carolina. Good morning. You mentioned the floods early and i want to get your comments on this. Within 60 miles of my driveway, there are three mega sites being built they are leveled, and there are thousands of acres of farmland and course land. More runoff water, more funds being reflected right back into the atmosphere. And the rooftops. Thank you. Just like pavement uncovered soil, creates a runoff. The more we can help farmers keep their soil covered, keep the routes in the ground, the better off we will be. To deal with flooding and present a lot of prevent a lot of runoff. Britt is in hermann. Go ahead. Thank you for taking my call. In 1975, i was a fifth grader. I am 63 years old now. I was told that there was a coming ice age. To add to the gentleman who called earlier about the different climate changing revolving climate hysteria. Lets talk about solar panels. The great answer to Global Warming. You have to have payback on your investment on solar panels. So if you have 10,000 worth of solar panels, your payback would be 15 years before you start seeing any kind of gain on free electricity. This is all a ruse. You are all phony. Money grab. The new home of communism. Your response . Im not going to debate the existence of Climate Change. We can see it with our eyes science has settled on this. What are we going to do about it . You did mention a return on investment for solar panels. What are your thoughts on that . I havent studied solar panel so i cannot comment on that. Terrys in florida. Good morning. Excellent. Hello. I just wanted to ask, you havent mentioned much about the sun and how its been warmer and heating up. And whats going to heat our planet. Why dont we talk about that . Were not going to turn the sun off red as far as inflation reduction, none of that money went towards that. Every coal plant we get, they will build more. What do we say . Were just suffering here . I know technology will take us past this at some point. The son has been what its always been. What we are talking about here is a Climate Crisis that is caused by things we are doing that can be solved by things we are doing differently. We should set about doing that. Mason is a farmer in iowa. Excellent. I live in northwest iowa. Will be a land interest reduction, and why . Why would they build a place where there isnt the people and the quality of soil we have . Another thing i have is she talked about waterways which i believe in. I put them in of my own money in there a lot of people who just abuse the soil then it gets bad in the government levels it off and date jam it to pay so much in anchor for the waterways. There ought to be in the farm deal, you have to maintain the waterways. White tell people to do whats right. That is my point. Thank you. All right. Final comment. Thats an excellent point. I think these are voluntary programs. They do help incentivize and increase the adoption of these programs. It probably will not be enough by itself. I think its a legitimate question to ask whether farmers ought to be required to do things over time. Ask all right. Deputy director of food and Environment Program at the union of concerned sciences. You can find them online. Thank you for joining us. Thank you. Cominup, and 30 miss, erin miller from t Carnegie Endowment for peace discusses the Biden Administration prisoner swap deal with iran. First, or phone calls on what you think is the top viewed story of the week. You will start calling us now. We will be back area. Are a couple of things we cover this week. The ongoing situation in maui with fires in the response. The death toll is at 111 and it is expected to rise. Former President Donald Trump was indicted earlier this week in georgia. The biden Inflation Reduction Act celebrated its anniversary on wednesday. The oneyear anniversary, and there is an abortion ruling that we will talk about with the u. S. Arrived prisoner swap in the next segment. But starting with the Abortion Pill ruling, here on politico, abortion ruling set up the Supreme Court showdown, with the fifth Circuit Court of appeals largely citing a challenging policy making the drugs more accessible and that is from the court of appeals. Ramping up to the original pot pregnancy. We will go to your phone call in lawrenceville georgia. Democrat. What is your top story . Donald trump. Ok. Yes. I dont understand how we can look at the same thing and come up with different outcomes. We all see the evidence, and we all know what it looks like. What is happened is wrong. Something needs to be done about it. It is not a political issue. It is an issue of right or wrong, and we all need to make the right decision. Sam, this is cbs news. Com. It says the trump arraignment on georgia charges will be in a court that allows cameras read unlike his other indictments. Will you be watching . Yes. I will watch. The fact will be magnified, and the truth will come out. Ask all right. Lets go to mike in alexandria indiana. A republican. Good morning. Hello. I say that the devastation we have going on is in hawaii. It is so heartbreaking to see all of these people that it is and, it doesnt seem like they are getting any help. Somebody should have been over here summing helping someone a day one. And not later. Brian is texas. Hello, brian. Quick cello. Go on. What do you think . The cause of Global Warming is the amount of atmosphere we are burning up every day. No one talks about the oxygen it takes to make a fire. But if you take the clube displacement of a motor and you divide it by the rpm, you find out how much fuel you used and how much oxygen you have. This is about 18,000 cubic gallons of air. 21 gallon of fuel. When you do the math, we are turning up about 400 cubic miles of oxygen every day. There is a fire going. That is our national debt. 400 miles cubic miles of atmosphere. Every day. If we had to replace one cubic mile of atmosphere, we would have a phenomenal undertaking to make one cubic mile. What do you suggest . What is the solution . We could reverse Global Warming. Lets go to temple texas, the. Last time i called, i told everyone what to watch the weather. We are in the last days. If there are going to be earthquakes, there are going to be volcanoes going off. Youve got a whole lot of bad weather coming. If we dont change the way we treat people in america, god is going to change us. Thank you. Jesse in albuquerque new mexico. Republican. Good morning. Good morning. Thank you very much. I think the biggest news story that came out is how trump said he is ruling out being in the republican debates. I absolutely think that is horrible. I think trump is being very unamerican at this point. Very on republican. He said that reagan didnt participate in the debate, and im looking on cspan on debate from 423 to 1980, and Ronald Reagan is next to george w bush. At april 23, 1980. Houston. Stop making excuses. Dont make excuses. I am very busy as a teacher, and i can make time to be in these debates if i needed to. So i just think trump is hiding like a kid. He needs to step out of the race. That is absolutely despicable. Who are you supporting on the republican side . Ask i wish they would pick one person to focus on. The split up is causing the percentages to look lower than they really are. I think the polls are seriously questionable. They are showing donald trump support when i talk to people. No one supports him. Not much. Who do you want that person to be if you could choose . I like nikki haley. She has good background. As a woman president , that be a great change for america. A great and symbolic change. I see tim scott is excellent. I think that there is there are a lot of people. Anyways. I just think trump needs to step down. He is not helping. Thank you. Lets go to montana. Independent. Hello. Good morning. I want to talk about my new story, and i will use mike constitutional freespeech to tell you that our local server one their union bid. That we have a union for local server. You can unionize come and get active. You can have more labor. I saw the dnc are against labor rights. The chair was working with a firm to stop playwrights, although he says he is for labor rights. That is the top new story of the week. Solidarity, everyone. We can win this. Have a good day. The lifer democrat line for democrats. Good morning. I was calling about it might be old news, but i dont know why they keep letting it drop about epstein and the senators who have child molestation over the years, and it seems like everyone has let that go. The lady that was procuring young girls, she is in the pen right now. You never hear anything on that story. I was just wondering why. I think at times, both parties have done things on that line, and they all dont want to lose their jobs. The money part, theyve got the money. So theres got to be some reason they are attached to trump like a leech because what else can it be . Its not money. Theyve got all the money they need. They are all rich. Trump made them that way. They are millionaires and billionaires. Why dont people call on that more. They are trying to find what happened to epstein. What happened to these young girls. There was news on about different senators that was done perhaps they shouldnt have done. The number lady has been passing out numbers to schoolgirls. Why cant they just say there is an attachment and all of the republicans forgot trump because he does have facts on them. Dumb things. We set about desantis. He can do more about him than his wife did. What is that of a threat that he know something. Dirty laundry. I just wonder why cant be followed up on. What went on there. Why cant they just say it . The republican seems to have an attachment to trump, the only reason is more in the social ways they live. Thank you. Republican line, tallahassee florida. Marcus. Good morning. Good morning to you. I just want to really quickly comment on a few things. We watch every morning at work. The first caller, he had a pretty bad thing. I looked up. There are 11 Million People in the state of georgia. About 8 million are eligible to vote, and in the last president ial election, just slightly over 4 million voted, so the idea that there were more ballots than there were people, that is simple to look at. I also think, i used to live in massachusetts, and the gentleman who called and said he is a middleoftheroad, both sides guy, and he gets his info from newsmax, thats just right wing propaganda. Fox news is the most watch news network. They are the mainstream media. They get way more views. Who watches cnn, anymore. I watch fox news. The idea that they are outsiders, they are the mainstream media. A lot of things involve talking about solar, they called me apollo. I had a friend back in the day. Solar power is just cheaper because we dont have descendant too cold. That is the whole idea. You make it onsite. It is much cheaper, and it goes from your room right to your house. It should be like easier money. It is not a discussion. Youre my favorite host. Way better than everybody else. Staying in florida through fort lauderdale. Democrat. Hello. Good morning. I just want to make a comment about trump and trumpism. Until educated people and people who are on the news start calling it what it is, a dangerous political cult, we will never be able to heal as a nation. Stephen . The hill. Com has this article from yesterday. Grand jurors in georgia, the trump case, they face threats and racist attacks. The grand jury voted to indict President Trump in georgia earlier this week. Theyre facing threats and a profusion of racist comments online. The juror names were listed publicly in the indictment as required under georgia law. A review of social media platforms and far right for mom forms found numerous racial slurs and even a juror address. Ruth is calling us from illinois. Independent. Good morning. Morning. Very interesting this morning. The greatest news story this week . Alan dershowitz. A staunch democrat. He came out and told us that the weaponization of the doj, the department of justice for all of you who dont understand, the department of justice and Central Intelligence agency and our federal bureau of investigation. He said that every democrat, every independent, and every republican does not stand up against what is happening in america. He said we will have no more tomorrow ive got something to tell you. Three weeks ago, he was talking it was saturday. You were talking to a guy and he said he voted for obama. He voted for trump. He voted for biden. And, he was kind of leaning towards voting for trump again. You guys were talking about convoys. Again you guys were talking back and forth. You said, why would you vote for donald trump who started the birther issue. The birther issue donald trump was not even considered anywhere when the birther issue came out. That was when Hillary Clinton was running against barack obama for the presidency. She made a statement. His aunt told me he was born in kenya guest in kenya. Who started the birther issue . Barack obamas aunt. I used to say Hillary Clinton did. She got to do whatever she wanted after that. Host terry from minnesota, republican. Caller my top news story is the one that broke yesterday that president robin l peters, who you know as joe biden, use fake names on emails and forward and then with government information about ukraine to hunter biden, who was, of course, under investigation by the prosecutor that got fired. The bidens then received money for that quid pro quo. The interesting thing is that none of the News Networks except fox news and newsmax have covered that. It turns out joe biden has other aliases he uses. Why is the president of the United States using fake names on emails . Why would you send government information to hunter biden and his Business Partners if you were not in business with them. This is the scandal of the ages. Talk about trumpism. How about how blind democrats are . Joe biden obviously took bribes. There are text messages, emails, whistleblowers, fbi and irs agents. Hunter bidens best friend even set it. The news industry not covering this story is a jolt. We have the president of the United States that use fake names on fake emails. Why do you use a fake name . You dont want to be caught. How about the fake Shell Companies he used to convert the money from china to his grandchildren. Why is china paying joe bidens grandchildren money . You guys say trump, trump, trump. I am not even a trump guy but this is really bad. Until the media starts telling it. Because there are a whole bunch of people. They actually do not care they watch the local nightly news. You are not giving the full information. That is a shame and that is why journalism died. That is why journalism has the Approval Rating of a person in congress. This is a big story and you are out here talking and only have one article out a day. It is crazy to me. Host we will look for an article. Democrat, good morning. Caller good morning. Can you hear me . Host yes. What is your top news story . Caller during the pandemic, you got fired from the job if you had covid. Instead of you leaving peacefully, you let your mob they went and stormed the capital. You stole documents, classified documents. Now you are trying to get back the job . Does it make sense . You got fired from the job when you were leaving you stole classified documents. You live, you got caught, and you are still trying to get back that job . Something is not right with this dynamic. I am confused. Can someone please explain it to me . Thank you. Host carmine in new jersey, independent. Good morning. Caller good morning. I just want to talk about the hawaiian fires. They make a giant cruiseship and giant Aircraft Carrier but do not make a giant airplane that can go into the ocean and get millions of gallons of water and take care of these fires . I think this should be done. I do not understand that part. They do just not have enough humongous things to take care of these fires that keep having problems everywhere. Volcanoes there are 200 abandoned that were in texas. If you do keep taking oil from the earth, volcanoes will arrest. That is my theory. Host the previous caller asked about that. This is an article i read before about the hunter biden and biden emails. This is from the hill about comber asking the archives for unredacted biden emails involving hunter biden and ukraine. The chair of the house and Oversight Committee has made that request to the National Archives and records administration. Sicilia. Alabama, republican. Good morning. Caller good morning. It is very interesting topics you are talking about today. I just want to talk about years ago, it must have been in the 80s, there were vehicles out there. People were driving them. They were solar and gas. I remember that that solar vehicle used to drive 600 miles on that one gallon of gas. You can go so much on that. I dont know why we are always worrying about trying to do battery vehicles when the solar vehicles they recalled them and took them out. They would not let people keep them even though they wanted to. This was a guy driving a pickup truck. He drove 600 miles across country before he even had to put an other drop of gas in his car with that solar power. A lot of European Countries have the solar vehicles. Why are we always talking about electric, electric, electric when you have to do all these batteries . You know batteries run out of energy. I have had a robot floor cleaners. Those batteries die and you cannot recharge them so you have to replace them. Then how much pollution does that cost . Why i am talking about that . A previous guess you had on. She had no knowledge of solar. When solar power is so free from it. What is great about these solar vehicles as it was part gas and part solar so if you have rainy days or cloudy days, you could run your vehicle on the gas. But eventually the sun will come out and make your vehicle so efficient and clean. And my other topic . Host go ahead. I was just going to show an article about solar powered cars. They are here but can they go mainstream . Here is a picture of what it could look like. Here is an article from last year if you would like to take a look on cnbc. Com. Caller i thought that was a fantastic vehicle to have all the markets instead of all these electric when you need charging stations and Everything Else using of our electricity. Host what if it rains or is cloudy . Caller that is why it is part gas and part solar. Host so a hybrid. Caller on rainy days, you have gas to get you through the rainy days. Host if you have another topic you wanted to talk about . Caller i did. I want to know why we are allowing china and Foreign Countries to purchase u. S. Land . We are so worried about our environment but china is what is the biggest polluters out there. Why would we allow other countries to buy American Land . I think this should be congress should just say no. You cannot purchase land that belongs to the United States. Host got it. On the democrat line, connecticut, jim. Caller good morning. Thank you for taking my call. I am upset with mr. Trump. He is a criminal. If they are going to put him on charges in georgia, he should be treated like the criminal he is. You should be put in handcuffs. I cannot hear you. Host i am not talking. Go ahead. Caller he should be put in handcuffs and put in court, and spent a few days in jail. He was the one that yelled lock him up previously. He has multiple indictments and is being treated like a prince because he is an expresident. Expresident does not mean above the law. Everyone says that but he can go on a caravan, criticize everyone. He bears to the nation politically. He embarrassed his party because he had control. He bought them all off or has something on them. He ruined our overseas people. He was not a diplomat with the overseas countries. He did save some money and have incredible points, but he embarrasses himself because he talks too much. Used to have an old saying, loose lips sink ships. He blew it. Sorry, i just do not like the man. Host independent line, illinois, good morning mark. Caller i will go a little off topic from everyone. Their comments have been interesting and i really do enjoy your show. I would like to talk about the woman on the plane who was docs by what seems like a reputable news agency was doxxed by what seems like a reputable news agency gave her name and news about her life. I dont think this is anybodys business. I know this is part of social media, but i dont know why this woman who was obviously having an episode and probably should have paid some consequents were having a plane have to turn around and inconveniencing lives, but i do not think she deserved to have her information put out. She had to make a response in response to the outcry from the public in general. Host nancy, florida, republican. Good morning. Caller good morning. I have a few points to make. I wanted to agree can you hear me . Host yes, go ahead. Caller i wanted to agree with the gentleman from minnesota who talked about the joe biden aliases, and also the fact of lelands bidders news nation and fox news that reported on it. As far as the people on hawaii, is a great place to donate money. Thank you. Host jim, missouri, democrat. Caller good morning. Host good morning, jim. Caller howdy. Section three of the 14th amendment of the constitution states if you take part in an insurrection, you are not eligible to hold office. It could have been written specifically for donald trump. There is no escaping the fact he did what he did. A good part of Congress Joins him in being an eligible their support of the being ineli gible through their support of heaven. Host coming up next, Aaron David Miller from the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace will join us to discuss the Biden Administrations potential prisoner swap deal with iran. Stay with us. Announcer sunday night on q a, in his book, university of richmond journalism professor samhan looked at the 19 73 buildings in washington, d. C. By a group of muslims and their leader. Hostages were taken at all three locations through the brisk headquarters, islamic centers, and district buildings. It is amazing how the story receded into the background. We do not talk about it much. It has been ignored for 50 plus years. A lot was lost and no one thought much about detaining retaining records. The Court Records were lost, including the transcript. We need to uncover that transcript. It was a thousand pages and was every word spoken. That really helps me, on top of all the other fbi records and Everything Else i found. Tens of thousands of pages. That record helps vps together the sequence of events helped me pieced together the sequence of events. Announcer you can listen to q a and all our podcasts on the free sees and now at free cspan now at. The metro hotel is located near a theater in downtown moscow. When it opened, it was a symbol of russias growing prosperity. After the bolshevik revolution, and he was often used by lenin to give speeches. During world war ii, it became an office for almost all foreign journalists allowed to work in the ussr. British journalist Alan Phillips wrote a book about those days called the red hotel. Announcer author Alan Phillips this episode of booknotes , available on the cpa now mobile app or where ever you get your podcasts. Cspans campaign 2024 coverage is your front row seat to the 2024 election. Watch the campaign trail with election announcements, meet and greets, and more. To make up your own mind, campaign 2024 on the cspan network, our free mobile video app, or anytime on long at online at cspan. Org. Announcer washington journal continues. Host welcome back. I am joined by a Carnegie Endowment for International Peace senior fellow, Aaron David Miller. He was a former state Department Middle east analyst and negotiator in both republican and electronic and democratic administrations. Welcome to the program. Talk about the potential u. S. Iran prisoner swap. I will put on the screen for our viewers with the outline is. Iran is peed to release five american detainees. E s. Will free five iranian nationals serving prison sentences for violatin sanctions on iran. And tehran will have access to 6 billion of oil revenue for humanitarian needs. What do you make of that agreement . Guest it has been in work for multiple for quite some time. Negotiating with a parent organization, which the u. S. Has done before, is not a good thing but needs to be compared to the alternative. The president is saying, do not compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative. As horrible as it is and republicans have been quite clear about this, to pay ransom to statesponsored terror, the reality is, what is the alternative . The induction of Many Americans who were wronglympsoned, some for 80 years, is hugely important to get these people back. While negotiating with iran on this issue, and releasing access to 6 billion of their money, presumably, but tightly restricted to be allocated for only food and humanitarian purposes close very difficult moral issues. Without dealing with the iranians, how are we going to get these americans back . It is a hard call but the president made the right call. Host i will review close of what some republicans are ng. Senam risch of idaho says, i welcome home wrongfully detained americans, unfreezing 6 billion in radio assets dangerously further incentivizes hostagetaking and provides a windfall for shima question. The Biden Administration must punish those who use america as potilause and this practice. Senator tom cotton, republican of arkansas says, we alway welcome the return of hostages if they are released in fact if Biden Administration pays 6. 5 million up pays 6 billion. They can use this to attack our troops, fund russia, and arm terrorism. I want to talk about the incentivizing hostagetaking by the regime. Guest i dont think iranians need any further incentives to act against americans. You have a regime that has killed its own people and is trying to spread influence in the square. And is now in the practice of turning russia vibrant putins blade aggression against ukraine. I suspect it is not beyond the realm of imagination or reality that more americans will be threatened. What do you do about americans who are now wrongly imprisoned and incarcerated . Do you abide by a principal . I must remind republican senators it was a republican president , Ronald Reagan, that engaged in what ultimately was a failed initiation, but was willing to free american hostages during the iranian crisis at the american embassy. Americans have been negotiating for years in an effort to redeem and get our citizens back. I think it is a moral imperative. The choices are hard. I understand the republican sentiment. The choices are hard by think they are important to make, especially if you are a Family Member of those wrongfully imprisoned. Host thats tough about the 6 billion in oil revenue. Critics say it will be a windfall for aggression and will be used to attack american troops and arm russia. How do you make sure that money is used for humanitarian purposes . Even if it is, it is freeing up funds to be used for various reasons. Guest the reality is, sure, the iranians may be constricted in drawing down this monday. Have to submit requests or vouchers. The money will be paid out of a qatar bank monitored by the u. S. It will free up resources for iranian activity. As i mentioned before, this is a choice between bad and worse. I connect to the basic reality of, what is the alternative . Both senators risch and kotten welcome to the return of americans home. The reality is by the way, there are four or five prisoners in the u. S. For sanction violations that will be released. Some i understand do not want to return to the islamic republic. Host what is this me that they were held for sanctions violations . What did they do . Guest they were involved to some degree. It takes many options that smitty it takes many chances to violate sanctions imposed over iran over the last decade or so. This involves lowlevel criminal activity, as well as significant individuals who violated american law. To support and help the transfer of funds from one organization to the other. It comes down to, what is the alternative . Senators can welcome americans home. The reality is, they would not be coming home without an effort, however cruel and unforgiving. Lives are being undermined and threw it. I think it is incumbent on an american president to do Everything Possible to bring these people home. It is true of the americans held by the Vladimir Putin regime as well. We negotiated for Brittney Griners return. When the regime currently involved in violating in the other companys sovereignty and accused of war crimes. It is hard out there. Sometimes the choices that have to be made are very tough. I think they are the right choices. Host our viewers can call in and asked a question or make a comment for our guest, Aaron David Miller from Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. Republicans, 202 7488001. Democrats, 202 7488000 independent and independents, 202 7488002. Can you explain how the money will be accessed . I understand it is in north korea is in south korea. Guest the u. S. Treasury will be involved in monitoring this entire process. This is not new. It has been done several times before to put food and medicine and humanitarian drawdowns on what were iranian assets. By the way, negotiating in iran it is august. This deal is still very much in train. My concern is any member of other prop locations of other provocations over the next four or five weeks could disrupt it. We are now witnessing harassment in the persian gulf of shipping. It has been an issue the last several years of boarding ships or harassing iranian fast folks running maneuvers around American Warships in the gulf. It is a very tense situation. I know means is it a done deal and nor will the money be transferred until the five americans are on a plane, in rows probably to kotter en route to qatar first. Host Antony Blinken spoke tuesday and said despite the swap of prisoners, the u. S. Policy toward iran remains unchanged. [video clip] nothing about our policy has changed. We continue to pursue a policy of the terrence and diplomacy. We make sure they will never acquire a Nuclear Weapon. Hold them accountable for human rights abuses, stabilizing action of the region, terrorism, hoping russia in the war of ukraine and many others. We are clear that iran must deescalate to create space for future diplomacy. This development is the move of our detainees and is not linked to any other aspect of our policy. It is simply about our people. Host i wanted to get your reaction to that. There is a wall street journal article that came out with a headline, iran slows buildup of uranium needed for weapon, steps to ease tensions as iran guest i think the journal is accurately reporting not direct negotiations between the United States and iran in an effort to get a rainy and to take a certain iranians to take certain stance to enrich uranium at 90 , which could easily trigger an Israeli Military strike or involve, potentially, american direction against iran. I think there have been in the last six months context with iranians contacts with iranians to get iran to deescalate, to restrain them from taking actions. That reflects the certain reality that confronts the Biden Administration. Things the Trump Administration withdrew from the Iranian Nuclear agreement in 2018, we have been living in an environment in which you had not had a major crisis with iran a major crisis, on one hand, but there was no actual agreement to restrain its Nuclear Weapons from them or nuclear program. Should it make a decision to weaponize, it would become a Nuclear Weapons program. So, we have been living in this limbo. I think the administration is trying to figure out a way to manage this problem to avoid an escalation, at least between now and the 2024 president ial elections. It is a tough thing to do, but a smart and responsible play. If you are a registered democrat in a republican administration, you are sitting in washington trying to manage russias invasion of ukraine, watching u. S. Chinese relations deteriorate and a campaign from reelection. The last thing you want is an anticipated unanticipated major disruption in the middle east. Which drew the United States in a time on is prosecuting his war against ukraine. I think these understandings i am reminded of the hollywood bogle, samuel goldman, who said an oral contract is not worth the paper it is written on. Oral contract is worth the paper it is written on. If they hold, could actually create some measured stability. By no means is it a fix, even an interim fix, to the challenge that we confront from this ideological regime that is on the cusp of becoming a Nuclear Weapons threshold state. Meaning, it will have the capacity, all of the elements required to create a bomb, it will no how to do should it decide to make that decision to weaponize a terrible predicament for anyone in any administration. Host you mentioned the ukrainerussia war. Iran has been selling armed drones to russia. What impact has that had, and why are they doing that . Guest the iranians see the russians and the russian see the iranians. The reality is, they are interested in creating some measure of cohesion in their own policies to thwart u. S. Citizens in europe and asia. The iranians see an advantage in strengthening their relationship with the russians. They will be likely to receive a certificate of meant of military equipment in return. Vladimir putin, hardpressed with respect to sanctions against the russian regime, as the consequences aggression of ukraine need Iranian Technology and expertise particularly in a battlefield not dominated by drones, but drones playing a major role. My russians have now created their own the russians, to my understanding, have created a factory to tune out thousands of drones which will in fact in the months ahead, based on Iranian Technology and expertise or iranian drones will immeasurably facilitate the oil effort against ukraine. Host lets talk to some viewers. Collin is in washington, d. C. , independent. Caller good morning, thank you for cspan. I guess i had one quick question regarding i do not want to spend too much time providing context for the very real history between the iran and the United States, i am sure your guests are well aware of this in history. My question is more targeted toward i feel like a lot of your critique about the Current Situation with iran is leaving out the fact that iran is under horrible sanctions from the United States, simply for basically trying to keep its own sovereignty and establish its sovereignty in the face of previous historical United States aggression. I will not go into russia, that is more complicated. Quite simply, the United States, we are choosing a side when it comes to ideological, theocratic regimes. We support israel and saudi arabia when it comes to israel declared a jewish state, saudi arabia is a declared of the region. We supply them with billions in funding. Israel that is very complicated, but israel is committing ethnic cleansing. Saudi arabia, we support ethnic cleansing in saudi arabia. I just feel like we are choosing to pick on and essentially, a sovereign state that is historically defending itself against United States imperialism. Host ok, lets get a reaction. Go ahead. Guest i worked for Republican Democratic administrations. Seven of them i voted for republicans and crowds. I am not going to run away from the reality that american policy over the decades has been inconsistent, anomalous and frequently hypocritical. There is no question. We deal with authoritarian governments. We sell military equipment to authoritarian governments. There is no question that there are inconsistencies and hypocrisies in our policies. Iran is under sanctioned because of its behavior. Iran is under international u. S. Sanctions because of development of the little of Ballistic Missile technologies. It has declared a state state sponsor of terror. Iran is under sanctioned because of its unwillingness to abide by International Protocols with respect to its nuclear program. So, there is a legitimate reason which is a rons own behavior, not to mention its effort to expand its own influence in the region. Yes, i agree there are inconsistencies, there are much in the u. S. Israeli relationship right now that is fundamentally broken. With respect to saudi arabia, one of the most authoritarian, repressed regimes in the region. There is no question about that. Iran is an aggressor, radical state, which is essentially trying to undermine regional stability and is in active support against russias aggression towards ukraine, and friendly, deserves to be sanctioned. I do not think there is much doubt about that. Host alan is in east indiana. Good morning. Caller thank you for talking my calls. Longtime viewer, love the washington journal. Hope it lasts forever. I love your hair, too, by the way. I would like to go back when you said i run is behavior irans ir behaviorans the gentleman said before, they had the United States and britain Work Together to overthrow the government and gave them 26 years of a military dictatorship. Remember . I guess he was a bad character there. Finally, the people rose up and overthrew him. It was people cannot say you have a insurrection without but i think they overdid it. They overthrew the dictatorship and brought in the ayatollah. What i want to ask is, jerry carter, in response to that, he froze 150,000 throws 150,000 in a rainy and assets around the world because there was money the shawl have stolen so for his outoftown money. In case things did not work out, he had money around the world. Whatever happened to that 150 billion . Another comment, if i may. When president obama implemented that agreement to work with iran to stop their military buildup or whatever, donald trump in his quest to overturn the legacy of barack obama, he withdrew from it. It was his right. Then, he imposed sanctions over iran. They had not violated the agreement with the other countries. Host all right, lets get a response. Guest the United States deserves a responsibility for the events in 19 53. I think the Clinton Administration expressed regret for u. S. Actions during those years. In 1979, you had ratty allies radicalized ideological and determined to spread his revolutionary message abroad. What we see over the course of recent decades. I think if the shoe fits on this one, it is important to wear it. It is not the United States is consorted and has aligned itself with brutal, authoritarian leaders over the years. We have learned more than we have on the issues promoting our values abroad. Then again, the world is a cruel and unforgiving place. American interest at times take precedence as they do over support for american values. I just think we face an impossible situation with this iranian regime. There is no way to negotiate and transform it. There is no way to change it by force. The future of iran will be left in the hands of the iranian people, where it frankly, given the events of 1953 and american cia intervention, strongly suggests that we will need to support the iranian people in their quest for democracy. It is going to be a long struggle. I do not make productions, but seems to be the most likely successor this regime is not a republican democracy. Probably, a regime controlled and influenced by the iranian revolution, under guard corps, which is frankly going to be more risk ready or would be more risk rating when it comes to developing a Nuclear Weapon in the current regime. We cannot measure this administration time. Iran is a problem that is going to have to be measured in generation time. It is going to be a very long and complicated road. Host david is a republican in silver spring, maryland. Caller thanks for taking my call. I think what he said is going to be true, so long as we continue to get them billions of dollars. Im not connecting the dots here. I do not see how giving them a bunch of money when they are on the cusp of developing a Nuclear Weapon is going to make anything better. I am not seeing the logical connection there. Host aaron . Guest again, there are no good deals with iran, only bad and worst ones. If you believe it is in the interest to bring americans home who have been wrongly or unjustly imprisoned by a brutal, authoritarian regime, if you believe that is important, then you only have two choices. A sickly, do nothing basically, do nothing, or create a pathway for their return. The administration has done that. 6 billion, it is not chump change. 6 billion, irans money, that frankly does not make it any better. Go into a bank in qatar and only be used for food and humanitarian purchases. The iranians will not have access to this money. The money they spend on humanitarian, food purposes will free up other funds that they can use for their quite correctly described nefarious purposes. Frankly, i do not see the alternative. Host along those lines, posted on, didnt we learn this lesson in the 1960s and late 1970s when we give ransom for hostages during the airline hijacking . I wonder your thoughts on banning americans from going to iran, if there are no americans there, the state could not ground them and charge them with espionage and imprison them. Guest these are iranian duo nationalists. In case of one who has british and iranian citizenship. I suppose youou do that. But, that does not mean iran would not continue to seek other ways to take hostages. I think that is hard issue to negotiate and navigate in a democracy. Placing a comprehensive ban on any travel toran, i think frankly would not be in our best interest. I think there is an Important Role to be played by iranian nationalists. They do take risks by going there. I do not see an alternative. Host paul is an independent in riverview, florida. Good morning, paul. Caller good morning, everybody. I have a question regarding the 6 billion. Is that invested in assets here in america . Does it continue to grow in its worth . Is that part of the 6 billion, or do we start to capitalize the americans to get the interest, the investment percentage on that . Guest 6 billion was frozen in the south korean bank. I do not know what financial implications or consequences what has happened to those funds. Clearly, they have not grown. 6 billion will be transferred into a qatar bank from which the iranians will be able to withdraw monitored transactions from the u. S. Treasury. I cannot answer the question if there is interest cooling on that money. Host maurice is in michigan, independent. Good morning. Caller good morning. I have been watching this program for several years now. We have a problem with paying people to release our citizens who are hostages. The first thing that should happen is, we should decide whether those people who are ransoming are of any value to us, period. In other words, if they are no value, why spend our money or release their money . I think we are repeating the same mistakes again and again and again. Host maurice, maurice, maurice. What do you mean about, do they have any value to us . They are american citizens. Doesnt that give us value in of itself . Guest they give us value if they go into a place that is dangerous. Caller if i walk across the street and it is a busy one in a traffic zone, i am taking a risk. These people take a risk host if you got hit by a car, Emergency Services would come get you and help you. Caller that is a typical, stupid reaction. Host ok. What do you think . Guest value . What value is a human and human life . Host yeah. Guest i it is a question i think that frankly is inappropriate. There is an interesting point here. You have american press, reporters, who travel and report , which is critically important. You have the wall street journal reporter who is now basically a hostage. Put ins regime, reporting the risks he has taken are commendable. Yes, those are risks. But, there is also obligation and commitment on a part of this government. To redeem and return american citizens. Again, it is a tough choice, but it is the right one. Host rafael in san bernardino, california, independent. Caller good morning. What is the barricade iran wont buy their supplies and resell them . I understand about the last caller. If i went to mexico, that would be my risk because i know they are going to be cutting heads off or whatever. Thank you very much. Host lets go to andrea in sanford, maine, democrat. Caller good morning. I feel bad, obviously, for the people in iran that are stuck there. But, 6 billion is a lot of money. It just seems a little bit heartless to say, what is the alternative, when the support for the people of our country have been cut . Their food stamps, health care benefits, support all these people need. 6 billion is going for four or five people. It seems that it would make sense to try a little harder, a different kind of negotiation because we are our president has a lot more people to take care of than them. I appreciate their sadness and efforts that they have made to do good things in iran, but still, there is a lot of other people who have had benefits taken away. I just wanted to make that point. Host i guess it bears repeating, the 6 billion is not american money, it is iranian money. Guest hello to sanford. There is a broader point that the caller makes which is important. That is, Foreign Policy begins at home. The United States faces a much greater threat here. We need to take much more series our involvement abroad to continue to try and lead the world, but we cannot forget that the source of our strength and power is our democracy, the vibrancy of our economy and the importance of the lower class. It is critically important the point the caller makes. 6 billion is not our own, but we spend larger amounts of resources abroad. For good reason, but we also have priorities here which very much need attention. Greatest threat the United States faces right now is us. Host sidney in louisiana, independent line. Go ahead. Caller yes. I want to know why you keep ringing up the ukraine bringing up the ukraine, but leaving out the ukraine did most of that in 1953 and said, how much money we spent and if you did not like it, you could go bike yourself. Yall do not seem to know or want to talk about them shelling the russians on the border for almost eight years. Yall just do everything yall want to do and blame it on everybody us. Host who is shelling the russians on the border . Caller the ukraine people did. They were bombing the border until the russians finally came in. What else was they gonna do . They were russian people. Host lets go to leon in North Carolina, independent. Caller hello. I have one question. I need to understand why we do not have the United Nations anymore and all we think about is leaders of these country state. We do not come together when we need to. I have a problem with that, because we are all talking heads in the front countries. Lets utilize the Security Council and the United Nations. Thank you. Good day. Host what do you think, aaron . Guest the u. N. Is hardly perfect as an organization, but it is only as strong as the members. Frankly, you are watching a world in which china and russia have an agenda. The agenda is for american influence and power. That is certainly a large part of it. Trying to get collective action on issues that matter on a Security Council by permanent members is virtually impossible. I think the you win still plays a critical u. N. Still plays a Critical Role in peacekeeping and the delivery of humanitarian assistance when it comes to issues related to the pandemic, food assistance. Not perfect, but could be made better. I am glad we have it. Host independent in scotland, pennsylvania, larry. Good morning. Caller good morning. I have a couple questions. I do not know the money issue. I keep hearing 6 billion, but i was under the impression there was 150 billion that were taken from iran for sanctions during this whole time. I have to agree with the young man from indiana and d. C. About what you are talking about how terroristic iran is, but israel and saudi arabia can attack other countries, go into other countries and kill their people. Iran should not be mad about that. One last thing, didnt israelis and the United States go in and kill one of irans top generals . If they did that to us, wouldnt that be an act of war . Host he was talking about some money. Guest they assassinated him and the Iranian Revolutionary a man who orchestrated countless efforts during our policy in iraq to attack american citizens and continue to plot against american military. The answer is, that fascination raised lots of numbers and questions. If in fact you are in confrontation, this action on the part of the United States was legitimate. Host andy in atlanta, georgia, independent. Good morning. Caller good morning. Listening to the last hour of this conversation. How come the United States is not helping opposition of iran for last year or so, there is a big opposition going on. How come that money, we do not have the right place in history . 6 million, there is a big opposition of last year overseas and in iran. They need some of that money to opposition, at least. Thank you. Host what do you think about supporting the democratic opposition in iran . Guest i think there are severe limits on what the United States can do to effect or make that opposition more effective than it already was. Hundreds of thousands of iranians led by women protested against a arbitrary, authoritarian regime. Thousands were imprisoned, hundreds were killed. More than hundreds. And, it was an effort to strike a new cord and push for freedom. It was a comprehensive effort. The iranian people owned it. I think the worst thing the United States could have done would be to put its fingerprints on legitimate opposition. Im not sure that anything we could have done would openly change the course of what happened, which essentially was a repressed repressive regime that controlled the instruments of state power, managed to repress and suppress these protests. They have not extinguished them. Or the moment, the regime has prevailed. I think people will not forget. There will be other occasions and opportunities, ultimately, i truly believe in the power of the iranian public and power and goodness of the iranian people we have ultimately changed the course of what happened which was an suppressive regime to stay in power and manage to repress and suppress these protests. They have not extinguished them. For the moment the regime has prevailed. Inc. People wont forget and there will be other ok and i think people wont forget and there will be other oppounities. Any power and gdness of the iranian people will ultimately find a way toet a generational proposition. Host Aaron David Miller, senior fellow, thanks for joining us. Guest thank you. Host programming note to be aware of, live it today at 3 00 p. M. Eastern, President Biden hosts the japanese and south korean president s at camp david for what will be the first summit with