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Lot. If you cant beat him, you prosecute him. We cannot let this happen in america. For the third time, former President Trump has been indicted. This time in washington, d. C. On conspiracy and obstruction related to the 2020 election, and the january 6, 2021 capitol riots. He is to be arraigned shortly at the federal courthouse in washington, which is about four blocks west of the capitol. We will follow todays events and get your reaction to these new indictments. Heres how you can participate. Republicans, this is the number for you to dial. Democrats all others if you cannot get through on the phone lines and want to make a comment, try the text number. If you send a text, include your first name and your city. If you want to make a comment and follow the conversation on social media, remember cspan is our handle for facebook and twitter. It was in april that the president was indicted on state charges in new york city. This was for business practices. It was in june in miami that a federal indictment came down for his mishandling of classified documents, and now in august this is on conspiracy and obstruction. The four charges are, conspiracy to defraud the u. S. Conspiracy to obstruct official proceeding. Attempt to obstruct an oicl proceeding. Nspiracy against rights, specifically the right to vote. The Trump Campaign put out a statementegding these new indictments. , this is nothing buth latest corrupt chapter in the ntinued pathetic attempt by the biting crime family and their weaponize department of justice to interfere with the 2024 president ial election in which esent trump is the undisputed front runner and leading by substantial margins. The former president arrived at the pretty men courthouse 15 minutes ago. The arraignment is scheduled for 4 00 p. M. Today, and former President Trump will appear in front of judge tanya ctkan. She was appointed to the bench by obama in 2014, worked as a public defender, and spent 12 years in private practice. Her law degree is from the university of pennsylvania. Now to your voices. Lets begin by hearing from mattie in south bloomfield, michigan. Republican lying. Go ahead. Lets try robert, a democrat in dearborn heights, michigan. Please go ahead, what do you think about this latest indictment, and the proceedings today . It has been a Long Time Coming. I have really looked forward to this day happening. I wish they would throw the key away. Im tired of what he has done to our nation. It has turned everybody around. Nobody knows good from evil. Im tired of it. Im ready to move on. The republican has lost its ground. Party has lost its ground. Host the headline this morning, some different takes on what is happening about the indictment. Heres the wall street journals take. Latest trump case sets high bar for the department of justice. The Washington Times as pent turns table on trump. Here is the new york times. First amendment is likely linchpin of trump defense. Finally, we have the washington post. Trumps intent is central to prosecution. Ann, silver spring, maryland, democrat. Guest after caller have the 222 lackeys come down yet . Host i am not sure what that means. Caller they are trumps lackeys. Host what do you think about todays events . Caller i think you should be slammed in jail and never allowed out ever again. He is the most disgusting he is not human. He is an excuse for white crash trash. Host this is rough in new york city. This is rough ralph in new york city. Caller the question is not free speech. Donald trump and the rest of us are free to say whatever they like. It is what he did, ok . And that is his problem. I think it is very much a question of of very well, laid out indictment. Related to the insurrection and his role in trying to bring down basically a free and Fair Election and interfere in the the truth the peaceful transition of power and there are consequences to all of our behaviors. I think that the man needs to be convicted and i think what is going to happen down the line is there is going to be some kind of deal or offered in which he is going to have to allocute to his crimes and swear to never run for office again. Host this is from the hill that we have been showing you live pictures from outside the ready men federal courthouse the prettyman federal courthouse outside the sea outside d. C. A new poll came out, this is by its souls by ipsos reuters. 52 said no and 28 said yes and undecided, 20 . Next call is pamela out in bloom want bluemont, virginia. Caller i am watching the program as it is coming over the television and i read the indictment when it came out. I had to read it twice because the first time, i wasnt certain i understood exactly what had gone on, how far he had gone to try and retain the presidency. Concerns me that we are at this point it concerns me that we are at this point. I am 17 70 years old and i think, how did we get here . I hope he gets a fair trial. If he is guilty, i hope he receives it an appropriate sentence. I am not one of the people who are begging for blood. Host did you vote for President Trump in either direction election . Caller i did not. I voted independent. We will have to see what happens. Host there is 40 some pages and on page three, they talk about the unindicted coconspirators. They did not list the names, basic coconspirators number one and number two, etc. But several news reports have identified five of the coconspirators. Rudy giuliani, john eastman, sidney powell, kenneth chesbro, all lawyers and Jeffrey Clark at the department of justice and the sixth is unknown, an unknown political consultant. What is the reaction your reaction to the indictment and todays events . Caller thanks for having me on. What i can understand is why jack smith left out the two words peacefully and patriotically out of the indictment . I also cannot understand why they have not indicted anyone else for disputing any former election because there has been lots of democrats through several different elections, this be the elections dispute the elections and no one said anything to them at all. No charges have been filed against any democrats. No one has done anything to any democrats and as far as the documents, what about all these other folks that have these documents . Biting biden, obama, bush, why havent they been charged . Host thanks for calling in, jason in grapevine, texas. President Trumps Campaign the president sent out a tweet three hours ago. I need one more indictment to ensure my election. Please go ahead with your comment. Caller i know you are going to hang up on me but anyhow, those men talking about donald trump. What have the democrats had been on them from the time he came in, the president. I know darn well people see that. They are lying because i have seen it and i would not live. Lie. I would have voted for biden if he came in and did what trump done. Nami not to me not me. When he gets what he wants and gets back in, i hope all these people can afford to get an electric car. I know i cant and i am 79 years old and i cannot do it. If he goes to prison, i would vote for him for now on because when he was then. He done a darn good job. I didnt have to worry about groceries and water bills and the light bill. People notice that. Host thanks for calling in from south carolina. Miles, san angelo, texas. Good afternoon. Caller that lady is correct about a few things. I dont know, i cant remember when i didnt worry about paying my bills. Why are they taking picking on trump . Today is why they are picking on trump because this is about anyway the six. January the sixth. They have been trying to forget about it since it happened. There were Different Things but it was a violent insurrection, of who attempt a coup attempt. They had planned. If these republican guys had paid attention to the january 6 hearings, they would be prepared for today because they would know that this was a big plan. They planned this way before january 6. They planned to take the country and to keep trump in office and that is why he has to pay for what he did. He started it. He said, look at all the people mainly mailing stuff. It is propaganda and it works so good. You turn on fox news or oann, they look good. These people who learned people in who lure people in and they think this man has done nothing wrong and joe biden is trying to get him. I dont even see that. Trump is going to have to have his date date in court. They need to televise this. We need to have a camera on trumps face and seems to testify because the American People would benefit from hearing him plead the fifth 500 times. Host miles in san angelo, texas and will is calling in the independent line in atlanta. Caller thank you for taking my call. I gentlemen from texas the gentleman from texas mentioned the omission in socalled jack smiths charge leaving out the peacefully and patriotically protest and everyone can go to you to and look at someone who is a bigtime lead. Legal scholar emeritus from harvard law school. It is very recent, a legal announced announces that he gives pro bono and gives an analysis on jack smiths. His charges against donald trump jack smith spurious charges against donald trump. All of these hundreds of thousands of mailin ballots were added to joe bidens ally and trump lost because of it. You can look up senator danes niece. Host the four charges against President Trump in this environment are conspiracy to defraud u. S, conspiracy to obstruct official proceeding obstruction of an attempt to obstruct an official proceeding and conspiracy against rights, specifically the right to vote. One person tweet walk all the way around the perimeter and it is mostly people gawking and people who dont like trump and a smaller of Trump Supporters with gigantic flags and the indictment should have come sooner. Politics are greater than country. Margaret, california, democrat. Caller i think this is a sad day and what it shows, especially listening to your callers, americans are divided and i think americans are turning to cast their votes and i am not picking on anyone. I am talking about everyone, out of anger. Right now, hold poll after poll has shown that americans dont want to see trump and joe biden in another election. There are a lot of politics involved in what is going on now because there is no way that there is only one criminal in washington dc. There are a lot of people doing a lot of things, they have their lobbyists in their hands in their pockets. It is really sad and we need a healing. I believe the media contributes greatly to this between the three networks that i will say, cnn, fox, and msnbc are aligned with the monarch Operation Monarch and how they portray things and people it caught up listening to that. I think we need to as a nation pull back from that, remember what we have in common, work for with each other and not get part up with after scott not get caught up in a partner partisanship. We are fighting each other and i think that is the wrong approach. I would like to see is healed. I would like to see us heal. I am a democrat. I am not happy with the way primaries are run. I am not happy that i dont get to choose that my party gets superdelegates, that i am told, joe biden will be a candidate. I would like to see cspan invite Robert Kennedy junior instead of all the other people coming out of the networks that want me to not think independently. I believe that free speech is being threatened that i dont think it is part of this case because, especially when it comes to the phony delegates that he was heading up setting up, this operation that went behind the scene that he was working. I hope he gets out theyll he gets a fair trial. I think they will find him guilty because they have to be blind and i dont think it is the correct to say what about host margaret, we are going to leave it there, thanks for calling from california. Jeannie, manassas. Independent line. What is your reaction . Caller i am a vietnameseamerican. I came here as a refugee from the communism of vietnam. We are looking for lower and free and Fair Elections. What trump has done was manipulate the law on the time he was president until the time he lost the election until now. He attacked our election. He created a lot of lies, indictment, the four conspiracies showing that he manipulated the law and the lawyers and he manipulated the three branches of the government. That is exactly what we, our country like vietnam, were looking for. He allowed to use our veterans, our government officials, the people with weapons to shame the man and woman in uniform. Trump lied to her. She thought the election was stolen. That was said. Sad. We have many v. A. Enemies americans we have many vietnamese americans who are veterans. He was the one attacking our foundation of democracy. The lady who spoke to use a few she was a democrat, i dont think she is because anybody who leaves in a democracy but see that trump who believes in democracy would see that trump is running the foundation is ruining the foundation of democracy. Host when a trumps lawyers one of trumps lawyers spoke to a reporter. Caller the fact that i am standing here for the third time [video clip] the fact that i am standing here for the third time in five months is not a committed test a coincidence. It is a deflection. From everything they have done and if you do not believe me, look at the facts. On march 17, hunter accidentally admitted it was his laptop from hell. The next day, alvin bragg indicted President Trump. June 8, an fbi document is released showing the ukrainians paid the Biden Crime Family millions of dollars. The next day, the maralago grade and indictment raid and indictment. Last week, Hunter Bidens sweetheart deal fell through when the judge realized he had blanket immunity. The following day, a superseding indictment against donald trump. July 31, devon archer goes to testify in front of the house. That was only after they failed to put him in jail prior to the fact. What happens the next day . The january 6 indictment that we are here for today. This is not a coincidence. This is election interference at his findings at its finest against the leaders the leading candidate for president for either party. Present President Trump is under siege in a way we havent seen before. President trump and his legal team and everyone on his team will continue to fight not for him before the American People. I will take some questions. Another president has called this a witchhunt i know the president has called this a witchhunt. An 80 any thoughts the president has said to you on why this is going on and why he calls this a witchhunt . A witchhunt is the way we should describe this because this is not something we have seen in our time. I witchhunt is when you relentlessly attack your opponent and the thing you are almost a pick most afraid of. People are afraid of someone who cannot be bought by washington and independently wealthy and given up his good life to fight for the country and that frightens politicians. He will fight for every one of us so this doesnt happen to us. The special counsel says no crime. The difference is what he did to switch the boat. Vote. What is it he did to switch the votes . Using a law in appropriate manner . Unlike what we are seeing, this is not appropriate stop he said go patriotic and peacefully and protest. I will say that today, i dont feel like we are in america. I think every court needs to look at this as a whole. It is about the fact that in a matter of a couple months, we have seen them tie up one individual who they who is running a campaign in a campaign and running for office for president that he is in court and in deposition and distracted so he wont run for 2024 and it will not work. Is he going to argue that the election was stolen . Anyone that believes that is misreading this. As an american, there were questions that he had regarding the election integrity. We have seen documents come out and documentaries coming out that there were issues showing that there were issues in the election. And bringing this, theyre only has to be proved that President Trump believed that this election was not completely honest and number two, jack smith has opened himself to a can of worms that we can look at. If you believe this is a set up, not wet why not bring a trial before the election so you can clear his name . I would love to do that we have to show the facts and there are a lot of facts to show so everybody has their time and to say that donald trump should be rushed and not given the same proceeding everyone elses is unamerican. A lot of the lawyers who helped him try to overturn the election are unnamed coconspirators in the indictment. Jenna ellis is not, why do you think that is . I will not speak to coconspirators or anyone else with donald trump. There are a number of testimonies that said the president was made aware he lost the election and continued to argue that it was stolen from him. How do you reconcile those two things . Everyone was made aware that he lost the election but that doesnt mean it was the only advice he was given. If anyone understands what happens in the oval office, there are numerous advisors and politicians giving you advice. He may not agree with mike pence or one of his lawyers. That doesnt mean there werent other people advising him the opposite and the president has a right to listen to several opinions and make their decision. We are healing hearing Hillary Clinton and Stacey Abrams are doing their elections werent right and the weaponization of the doj did not happen then. Of course not but if your last name is trump, it is different. Hillary clinton could lose the election and we could have felt complete american meltdown. He is to blame for things he did not do and that is what we are saying. This is not about that. This is about politics and 2024. Period, the end. Thank you. Host that was a few minutes ago host that was just a few minutes ago in washington, d. C. Speaking about the 2020 election and some of the claims made about it. In the indictment that jack smith wrought, i want to read just a little bit from it so that you can get a sense of how they framing this. This is in the section, the defendants knowledge of the falsity of his Election Fraud claims, defendant, coconspirators, and agents made knowingly false claims that there had been outcome determinative fraud in the 2020 president ial election. These prolific lies about Election Fraud included dozens of specific claims that there had been substantial fraud in certain states such as that large numbers of dead, nonresident, noncitizen in knowledgeable voters had cast alan or that Voting Machines had changed votes from the defendant to votes for biden. These claims were false and the defendant knew that they were false and in fact the defendant was notified repeatedly that his claims were untrue often by the people upon whom he relied for candid advice on important matters and were best positioned to know the facts. That is from the indictment. The next call is vanessa from port richie, florida. Please go ahead, whats your reaction to the indictments . Caller kind of exasperated with the amount of callers who are supporting trump. The reason being even the wiki was elected, we saw things blowing up in our embassies. The american embassies. They were burning shit in the fireplace, ok. On top of all of that, we had just gotten over obama and the wasps nest accelerant was an arc agreement, ok. Now we are going for pipelines. You want to cut me off now . Host im not sure where you are going. We are trying to get a reaction to todays events and the indictment of former President Trump. If we can stick to that. Got a little bit off course there. Couple of tweet. This is eric tucker with the Associated Press outside the courthouse. Three Police Officers who defendant the capitol january 6 seen entering the d. C. Courthouse with the trump arraignment. Caitlin collins of cnn, as expected, jack smith is present in the courtroom for the arraignment. This is the second time they have been face to face as trump has been attacking him as a deranged crackhead and implying he had something to do with the cocaine find at the white house. Finally, robert cox at cvs, jack smith is in the courtroom on the left side of the courtroom next to other prosecutors right behind the prosecutor table. Prosecutors have taken their seats and he is doing a blowbyblow of whats going on. The arraignment was due to begin at 4 p. M. And of course, no cameras in this federal courthouse. Jackie, oklahoma city. Independent mine. Go ahead. I could go i could be on the phone for an hour going over what you want to talk about in thats not possible. All i want to say is this. You know, whether trump is reelected as president again or he goes to jail, it really doesnt make a difference. I will tell you why. What this man did is open up americas eyes. That cant be taken back. I know jack smith. I know joe biden. Nobody. There will come a time shortly when the feds are going to have to deal with it. This guy has been railroaded from day one. I cant go into, i mean, i cant go into each item i dont like. I would be on the phone for an hour. All im saying is you cant go he did this, why should he do that. Trump is a good man. He really is. America really doesnt deserve a guy like this. Host thank you for calling in. Brett. Tacoma, washington. Its your turn. Caller i would like to state the facts. In 2016 the democrats objected to the counting of electoral votes, ok, but none of them at the time was a senator. 2020, when we had that election, we had house representatives with senators objecting to the counting of the electoral votes because of the fraud. Because of the accusations. Because things were not lining up, like joe biden, please dont cut me off, like joe biden getting votes in the middle of the night and stuff like that. There is actual things that needed to be discussed and investigated. Ok . That didnt happen because pelosi set up january 6, the insurrection, peacefully and patriotically to assemble there, to let your voices be heard. If the democrats really cared about this stuff, they wouldnt have edited the you know, trumps speech about patriotically and you know peacefully going to the capital. So thats all i got to say about that. This is a witch and we all know it. Thank you. Host another reporter in the courtroom just a few minutes ago , trump has entered the courtroom for his initial appearance on charges connected to his effort to overturn his loss in the 2020 election. Evelyn, north carolina. Hello, evelyn. Caller hi, i just want to make a comment. A caller called from texas maybe a few guys before and he said that jack smith never mentioned patriotic and peaceful. If we looked at the capital when the riot happened. Well, not riot, insurrection happened, it was not peaceful. It was not patriotic. They was out to destroy and hang mike pence. And thats all i need to say. Thank you. Host bennett is in portland, oregon. Please go ahead. Caller thank you so much for taking my call. There have been a lot of interesting points made here and what i want to first say is that the issue here isnt like the objections or the procedural issues one of the previous callers mentioned. Its an issue about the slate of fake electors trump tried to instill. I urge everybody, dont take your news from talking heads. Use your eyes and read the indictments. Thats where we see the actual fact. This isnt an issue about disagreeing with the results of the election. Yes, trump went through the standard avenues with the courts. He brought all of those cases up legally. Thats not the problem. The problem is he lost them all. They were rejected by the Supreme Court and continued to knowingly spread that information. So you know, one of the other callers mentioned that trump had opened up all of our eyes. Lets take the open eyes and actually read the information at question here. And on anybody who will say that i dont know anyone who disagrees, if hunter biden did something wrong, investigate it, indict them. No one should be above the law, including politicians. Thats ultimately what we are going to find out as this trial continues. Host the pictures we are showing you are on third or 4th street, apologize, 3rd street outside in washington, d. C. , outside the prim and outside the federal courthouse. You can see the police out there and traffic moving, etc. The president is just to the left of that picture. Caller thank you, cspan. What i have to say is im a democrat. Proud, american democrat. I dont always vote democrat. There was a time when i would vote for a lot of republicans. However ever since john mccain got saddled, ive only voted democratic. Because you know, principal. But what im really upset about. Not really upset. Kind of angry about is my vote for joseph biden was completely legitimate and im tired of being told that it wasnt. Thats all i really have to say. Host Scott Mcfarland tweets out from the courthouse, from the court room, more so today than in manhattan or miami federal court, trump is checking out the audience, looking around the room and at the spectators. Michael is a democrat right here in washington, d. C. , good afternoon to you. Caller i think that this has been a Long Time Coming and hopefully this trial really reveals the truth for everyone. I work in a small Public Opinion group and i have noticed that among a large number of republicans there seems to be real cognitive disk that dissonance. Big supporters of trump on social media, and its been interesting watching that community move away from their dedicated support of trump and say they wanted over with, focusing on 2024 and the real candidate. Come the last thing i want to share in the media space is why didnt the media refer to trump as a convicted rapist or fraudster . We need to remember his history and who he is. And at the end of the day if we are going to call a rapist a rapist, trump is one as well. Host do you work for a nonpartisan polling firm . Guest i do, actually. We use combinations of open source public data and measure it in a nonbiased way to look at trends and sentiment. Communities online and measuring that against longterm historic trends going to back before 2016. Host thank you, sir. We shared a pole earlier from if sosa reuters that asked republicans if you would support donald trump for reelection if you were in prison. 52 of the republicans in the polls said no. 28 said yes. Undecided still 20 . Roseann. Republican mine. Go ahead. Caller you all talking about that jack smith indictment, i dont believe that jack smith indictment. He lies a lot. He hates trump. I dont believe anything jack smith says. All of these democrats find him guilty before hes even sentence. Wrong. In the polls, i dont believe it. Trump will have at least 60 of the vote, even if he is indicted and goes to prison. Host former President Trump sent out a tweet today said that its one more indictment that he needs for his reelection. Do you agree with that . Caller yes, they need to pull more places. In michigan where i live theres nothing but trump signs up and down up and down everywhere. You see no biden signs. None. You guys need to do the polling better. Not you. The people that do the polling need to go other places. Because the polling is totally wrong. Host thank you for calling in. You mentioned special counsel jack smith. He was appointed in noveer of 2022. Previously he had led the Justice Department public integry section and his law degree from harvard. Lauren is calling in from houma, louisiana. Republican mine. Line. Caller i believe that this arraignment and any other arraignment they are doing is just a witchhunt. I hope the truth comes out and finds that they are wrong and fires jack smith and garland. They are criminals, to. They should be indicted. Host oklahoma city, text message. The whole procedure is a farce. Trump will get through this ok. Joe biden is the one who belongs in prison. Lets hear from jude in palmdale. Good afternoon here on cspan. Caller i called in on the other line. Im not a republican, im a conservative in theres a big difference. The previous caller referenced the january 6 hearings. The january 6 hearings were totally skewed. Nancy pelosi would not let jim jordan or matt gaetz or true conservatives be able to rebut the onesided attack on donald trump. That is a fact. Now the establishment in washington is terrified of trump. There are many, many republicans that do not want this man back in office because he knows how to deal with the system now after being attacked for four years while he was president. Total of going on eight years right now. This is a shame. This is not the america i grew up in. Thanks a lot for taking my call. Host another voice. West virginia. President trump is a dangerous and violent criminal. Every elected person who enabled him that he was a dangerous and violent criminal and i hope the accountability continues and shows that trumps enablers can return to a shared reality. Don, daytona, good afternoon to you. Caller some of these callers, their points, its so similar. If you are a democrat or a republican, arent you for a wellmaintained border. Arent you for a good military defense . Arent you for china not getting a leg up on us on trade Holding Us Hostage because the company ships so much over to their that they can do whatever they want . I think that everybody believes the same way. I think what happened to america is that the elections are not based on substance any longer. They are more like a high School Election where you vote for the person you like, not what they stand for. Host bobby, democratic line. Are you with us . Lets move on to eileen in wyoming. Independent mine. Go ahead. Caller thanks for having me. I have listened to both sides of the callers. Democrats to republicans. At the end of the day this has been a Long Time Coming, the whole thing. Its funny to me that first of all, people call but they couldnt even pass a civics exam with regards to the way the government functions. It goes to tell you they probably cannot tell you who the governor of their own state is because we have gotten to a point in Society Night where we dont honor and value our founding, our documents, our laws, are civics, we dont even teach it in school. You have a lot of useful idiots out there that dont know what they were talk they are talking about because they were not educated in the subject. We used to have a media. We havent had a media for quite a long time. We have propaganda. Its all both sides. Everybody picks their lanes in their teams and everybody fights for their teams. Thats number two. It doesnt help to educate the populace. Thats what the job of the media is. It needs to be a check on power, number one, and an educational tool for the americans out there so that they have an understanding whats going on in current events. That doesnt occur. Number three, youve got hypocrisy. And the height of hypocrisy. Host we have got your points there but when it comes to today whats your reaction to the indictment for the third time of former President Trump . Caller they absolutely tried to perpetrate a coup on the government in 2016 but at the end of the day he was overturned unanimously by the Supreme Court and you failed to mention that in your defense of him. Host what did you think of liz cheney and her role in the january 6 hearings . Caller january 6 hearings was a freaking dog and pony show. A three ring circus. Not a legitimate hearing with both sides being presented in both sides being represented. Again it was propaganda. The entire situation. You cant call it an honest hearing when you dont have both sides. Host thank you for calling in. The Court Proceedings have begun. The judgereding was appointed by president obama in 20 as d. Public defender d ent 12 years in public practice. Shgo her law degree from the university of pennsylvania. Daniel, you are on cspan. Caller being independent, i like to watch both sides of the news, but they become so polarized. One exception, fox news is more balanced. They will have someone on the panel thats clearly a democrat and gives their views. If you turn on msnbc, its total propaganda. Like i said, im able to weigh both sides of the scale and try to judge. I was a democrat once upon a time. I have not been able to get behind it m aquatic candidate in quite a long time. Only because it has become so polarized and they are out to do whatever they can to beat their opponent and that means whatever. Trump was for a secure border. What does biden do, he opens up the border. Host before we go to other issues, what do you think about the indictmenty . Caller well, if i understandt correctly, they have to prove that he knew it was aie. So, how are they going to prove, unss he had some sort of seeker conversations and asked them do you believe the individual or not. About this, the judge has given out sentences above the recommended statutes for all of these people that were found guilty for the january 6. This is a sham. Im not a donald trump supporter but this is a sham. Host thats daniel in north carolina. Ray is calling there we go. Hello, ray, in chicago. Democrats. Caller thats me, thats me. Hey the reason im calling is people dont read to understand what it is thats happening. They dont like, if you read the indictment or go back and read the Mueller Report, educate yourself and you can understand whats behind the indictment that trump is up against. When the Mueller Report came out and bill barr said that its a nothing burger, its like did he even read the thing . The one comment i have to make here, im a polling judge, or election judge in chicago. I have people coming through their that one comment i dont even know why im voting because it is all rigged. You know what . I worked on those machines. I was a tech those machines for dominion. I want to explain to them how it is not possible to cheat these machines. They didnt even want to listen. They didnt want me to walk them through it because they had their mind made up and thats the way it was and thats the way i see it with a bunch of these people calling in today. And thats it. See you. Host do you think the president , that these indictments are legitimate . Caller absolutely. Read the indictments. Host al, republican line, massachusetts. Caller ok, hows it going, cspan . Number one, we got a judge and location thats totally obama. So its like having a guy from israel being tried in lebanon. Its automatic, a foregone conclusion number one. Number two, if trump goes to jail and we dont get to vote for him, then we are no longer a democracy or a republic. We are a communist country. Number three, we never explained to planted the pipe bombs near the capital. That was preplanned by the democrats. Number four, are you still there . Host still listening, you get one more point and then we got to go. Caller number four, if he goes to jail and we cant vote for him, its go. Host should have stayed at three points, i guess. Michael, north carolina, good afternoon. Host good afternoon, cspan, and all the americans caller good afternoon, cspan, and all the americans in america. I believe that President Trump is guilty on one of these conspiracy charges. I dont think it has to do with the judge or the city or state hes being tried in. I feel like, reaganite. I remember being in kindergarten when Ronald Reagan was elected in 1980 and i think of ronald was alive today, president Ronald Reagan, he would be very disappointed in some of the actions going on by a small minority, like 1 of the Republican Party. And thats all i have to say about it. Host thank you for calling in. Reporter Scott Mcfarland sends out this news item by tweet. It says trump is making no use of the pen or paper nearby and that judge Tanya Chutkan is not presiding, even though this is her case. I apologize if i mispronounce this, but it is judge [indiscernible] reading the four felony counts that trump faces. The next call is edgar in land o lakes, florida. Caller im first generation, born in america. My family came from latvia in world war ii. I fancy myself as being a student of history. Not only just a child of history. Yes, i agree that the charges against trump are valid. I often wonder and have often questioned how is it that a society as educated as germany was could fall to such beliefs against democracy. I dont know whether or not americans have read enough about history to understand that what we are going through is indeed a constitutional crisis. Many comments have been made about clinton and his impeachment. He wasnt impeached for having sex with a person. He was impeached for perjury. I dont think people really grasp the concept of what the meaning of law is in america. And as far as trump himself, my eyes are all i need to. I witnessed what happened on january 6. From the speeches on the ellipse all the way through the attack on congress. There is no doubt in my mind that these are legitimate charges, legal charges, against the former president of the United States. Host thats edgar in land o lakes, florida. Trump leads not guilty. That has occurred. Dean is in utica, new york. Republican line. Hello. Caller im not worried about him being impeached. I think hes going to win it. I think im sorry, he wasnt impeached, but im not worried about this indictment. And also, i thought it was a ceremonial thing, the electoral count, right . Now all of a sudden its an official gathering . I watched it on cspan. I watch the whole thing. What you guys were showing at first was peaceful people walking, not doing anything wrong. I mean there was announcement. Everyone left the chamber but then they came back. I think they left for a couple of hours to debate. I really wished nobody broke the windows and went in, you know . Im thinking thats incitement. Thats why inciting a riot is against the law. Everyone ends up doing it, you know. Even if they are peaceful. Peaceful people end up being stupid, you know . The thing is i wish everything did go the way it was supposed to. Not the way it was supposed to but the way our forefathers created everything. To you know for them to count them and for them to object and the thing is, if the counts were tossed out, all that happens is congress picks the president and senators pick the Vice President. So we could have had a mix of, of president and Vice President. Host i tell you what, lets leave it there. We appreciate your calling in. Robert costa, cbs, conditions of release. This is what happened in the courtroom. Agreed to by both sides. No violations of federal law. Must appear in court as required and sign appearance bond. Shall not communicate about the facts of the case to any individual known to the defendant to be a witness except through attorneys. Again, thats robert costa, cbs, in the courtroom. Janet, atlanta, democrat, you are on cspan. Caller yes i will not vote for biden ever again. I dont believe he is a unifier like he pretends he is. Its time for Robert Kennedy junior to be our president. If you are going to get someone in there who is a unifier, you get him. Host janet, do you want to make any comments about todays indictment . Caller the indictment is only because biden is not a unifier. Host thank you. We will leave it there. This text came in. President bidens dirt doesnt make former President Trump clean. Both are corrupt. Lets talk to norma, next, virginia. Caller hi there, how are you . Host how are you . Caller im so disgusted. I believe this is a national disgrace, what biden has done to our country. This judge tried to ruin the reputation and imprison the honorable bob mcdonald, our good governor. Host youre talking about jack smith, correct . Caller yes. Host in the Public Integrity section of the doj. Caller the campaign to bring down governor mcdonald. Host yes, he prosecuted governor mcdonald. Correct. Caller again, he was treated very unfairly. I believe that trump is being treated very unfairly. I believe we are in spiritual warfare. The man was right, we are in a constitutional crisis. The media acting like a fourth arm of the government. They dont do their job like they did when i was growing up. I agree with the man in california who said the capital was not protected and that pelosi and all of them, when they had the impeachment hearings, they were showing only one side and they wouldnt allow the ones who said it was equal between the democrats and republicans. Pelosi is the one who would not let in the extra national guard. The big thing is that they are just, he was trying to get rid of the swamp and the swamp is going to fight back. Everything that is going on in our country, the fenton all, the drugs, the border, veterans off the street, not helping our own people that live here legally. All of this is bidens doing to get more people registered democrat to vote. Host that was norma in richmond, virginia. Greg is next, milwaukee, democrat. Caller i agree with the indictment. I read the entire thing. Trump try to throw out votes from wisconsin and other major cities that were democratic. Also majority black cities in the challenging states. Senator ron johnson participated in the process. He claims he didnt know what was in the envelope but the fake collectors, it had the names of the fae collectors and he was trying to do that. This was a deepseated, deeply planned, orchestrated coup and its lined very well in the indictment and i believe theres more to come. Host did you read the indictment . Caller yes, downloaded and i read it. Host what do you think was the strongest argument jack smith n the indictment . Caller the fact that many people told trump that he was lying and he refused to admit that he lost. Many people told him that he lost. People told him that he lost the election and he refused to accept it. He refused to accept peaceful transfer of power and he had people attack the capital and that is against the law. Host nbc reporters tweeting at the next hearing in this case is august 28, a monday. Greg, i apologize. Lets move on to dale in independence, ohio. Caller yes, hi. Its easy to understand why a lot of of people thought the election was stolen. Because a vote for the democrats was actually a vote for socialism and a vote for trump i think was a vote for freedom. Even black lives matter is a marxist organization. Its not about helping black people. I really think that a lot of people thought this was definitely stolen. Host this tweet is similar to what dale in ohio just said, the biggest scam in the entire history of america. The entire matter being brainstormed by the attorney general and biden. This is making the marxists very happy. Our caller, greg and milwaukee, talked about downloading and reading the indictment, which you can do from the cspan website. One of the things the indictment does is it walks through january 6, 2021, almost hourbyhour, beginning at 1 a. M. That morning. Next call is craig in california. You are on the air. Caller hello, cspaners. I had to come over here, i couldnt stand the coverage on msnbc, cnn, and fox. Its nice to hear just the citizens call in. Its amazing how many facts are, are, are just wrong. Especially from the lock her up crowd. Lock her up, lock her up. Ha ha. Fox news got sued by dominion voting systems and once the case was allowed to go forward, they got discovery. They got internal emails at fox news that fox news knew that all of these people that were coming on their show were lying about the election being stolen and fox news viewers believed it. The reason fox news lied was because viewership was moving over to newsmax. In 20 in and to oan. They got sued for lying. Host bring it to today. Whats happening today outside the federal courthouse in d. C. . Caller ok. This is good. All of the witnesses were trump officials. Theres no democrats in here. Its good that he gets a day in court. Its terrible this had to happen but i have always felt that man was a crook. As jack smith said, hes innocent until proven guilty. So i guess thats all. Host thats craig in california. Heres another view. Susan, democrat, huntersville. This is a text message. Trump never intended to accept the results of the election. A spoiled bully. Look at all the witnesses against him. No integrity. Gas lighting is his specialty. Next lets hear from lisa in tucson, arizona. Hello, lisa. Caller thank you for taking my call. Host what do you think about the events of today . Caller im a real republican. I believe in Smaller Government and the rule of law. I have read the Mueller Report. I listened to jan six. Ive read every single indictment. It seems that trump was saying that the election would be stolen way before the election ever happened. Reading the indictment and what is proposed that he did with his, what are those, unnamed coconspirators . Yeah. Im thinking they made the right call. Because no one is above the law. Host the unindicted coconspirators who are not named in this federal indictment by jack smith, they are called coconspirator 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. News reports say, and this comes from various sources, rudy giuliani, john eastman, sidney powell, kenneth just broke, and a number six political consultant who is unnamed are the coconspirators who are unindicted at this point. Fredericksburg, virginia. Go ahead. Hello, debbie. Caller how are you . Host please go ahead and make your comment about todays indictment of former President Trump. Caller i tell you what, im going to begin. Its not going to belong. There is a book called letters to trump. This book is filled with people that know him. You would just marvel at the people who are democrats, republicans, highrollers, low rollers, just general people who know him. Donald trump does things that people never know about. He never tells. People, they are not reported in the news. He does people for charity. When his children were little, he told them you pick a charity and you do it. Host tell you what, debbie. Again, what do you think about the indictments today . Caller i think it is a travesty. Host thank you for calling in, we appreciate your time. Charles, pennsylvania, go ahead. Caller hello . Host charles, you are on cspan, please go ahead. Host i agree with the indictments today but the scarier problem is whats coming down the road if somehow he gets elected again. Because all the stuff going on now, he will never leave. All the stuff the republicans are doing right now, theres a book out that was written back in 1930 called mein kampf, thats what the Republican Party is trying to do with evangelicals to take over the country and not have a democracy anymore. Its going to be a cult leader. Like putin or in china, where hes never going to leave. People dont understand, if he gets back in, our country as we know it is over with. Its not going to be the same country we knew if we let this man, this man is no different than jim jones. No different than anyone else that had a cult for years. Thats all i got to say. If we let this man back in, he will be number 47 and that will be the last president of the United States and we will have a dictator. Host thats another tweet from scott mcfarlane, the first hearing is set for a monday morning with judge Tanya Chutkan. Robert, you are on the air. Good afternoon. Caller what i got to say goes back to about 1960. Paul pelosi was out here in california threatening farmers that didnt get in line because they wanted to get rid of legal workers. They threatened people with their lives. These events went on for about four weeks. We were a special group that was hired. Host tell you what, robert, if you can bring it to today, we will let you finish otherwise we got to move on. Caller i think the whole thing is a sham. Host thank you for calling in. This text or agrees with you, this arrangement proves to me that the doj has become the ringleader against trump. What indictment is next . Surely not biden. Dennis, toledo, iowa. Caller i just want to remind people that donald trump thought he was robbed and so he took it to the Supreme Court. Every judge on that Supreme Court, three of them, donald trump picked, they all said that biden was the winner of the election. He lost it. These republicans who blame democrats for illegals, it made National News in iowa. A man murdered by any legal and it was President Trump at the time. Not joe biden. I have a suggestion for republicans. Grow up. Stop being idiots. Thank you. Host that is dennis in iowa. Andrew on the independent line. What do you think about the indictment today and the four counts against former President Trump . Caller i think the indictments are a beginning point. Certainly there are more crimes that could have been indicted for and i expect that jack smith will keep those for a later time to be filed in new jersey. I have to say that the response to the press release and the press conference that was given was very interesting in the way that many of the facts were mischaracterized to spin a narrative, like the throwing out of a hunter biden plea deal. [inaudible] because they couldnt decide. They are trying to use a, i dont know, how best to put it. They are trying to create a parallel where there are no parallels. Host andrew in georgia, thank you for your voice. This is the third time that former President Trump has been indicted. It was april in new york city when the state of new york indicted him on business practices. It was june in miami when jack smith and the special counsel indicted him on mishandling classified documents. And it is august in d. C. When he was indicted on conspiracy and obstruction. He has it looks like all of the action in the courtroom has concluded. We are waiting for the president to leave and fly back, drive back to Reagan National airport in arlington, virginia. A trip of about seven miles depending on traffic. It could take 15 to 30 minutes. Thats where his plane is parked and the schedule says that he will be flying back to newark to go back to his golf club in bedminster. The next call is ruby in the wisconsin dells. Wisconsin, republican. Ruby, you are on cspan. Whats your, whats your thought about todays indictments . Caller i didnt go along with it. The reason is that jack smith lied. He came on lying. He said no one is above the law. Thats when he turned me off he lied. All of the illegals are above the law, leading me to believe that everyone is above the law except black people and President Trump. Thank you, sir. Host that was ruby in wisconsin. Dave, new york. People should take the time to read all 45 pages of the indictment. All the information is provided. How can people not take the time to read the indictment rather than skew garbage from wild websites and regurgitating what trump and his cronies repeated. Lies. Stephen is next in sarasota, florida. Good afternoon. Caller thank you for taking my call. I would just like to say that january 6 i was watching cspan. 1 was covering what was happening in the halls of congress and 2 was covering the trump rally. You could really see it unfold. What was being set on the stage and what was being told. I want to remind everyone in america that the First Amendment right to freedom of speech does not include inciting violence. We had a big one way back member the chicago six. Jerry rubins and those guys. Basically started a riot over a protest in vietnam. This was basically the same thing. You could see those words with every speaker in the house on that stage. Influencing these people to march on that capitol and start a riot. You could see it. I dont think there would be any problem because of the Video Evidence and the testimony, finding trump guilty on our all charges. Host on your screen, the president ial, former president s motorcade is returning to Reagan National airport to cross the 14th street bridge in arlington, virginia. This could again take anywhere from 15 to 30. My guess is they will find a way to beat the traffic. We will continue to take your calls. There is word that perhaps former President Trump will do a short press conference on the tarmac at the airport and if so, of course we will bring that to you live as well. Michelle, saying that this is about a peaceful transfer of power and six coconspirators plotting to retain power. Even to the point of violence. If trump didnt commit crimes, he would not be in court right now. Bruce is our next caller from del monte, california. Go ahead. Caller thanks for having me. How you doing . Host please go ahead. Caller i would like to know why, you know, i want everybody, all the republicans just to look at if it was you that had done what donald trump has done, youd be, youd be, youd be in jail right now today. Another thing, for a twotiered justice system, you can tell. Look at your camera, the feed that is showing. Youve got six limousines going through traffic like there is none. Right question mark everybody blocking the roads. Its a flight risk. His wife isnt in the country. Who is to say that hes not going to fly to belarus, you know i mean . Hes a crook. He doesnt love jesus. Thanks for having me. Host that was bruce in the monte, california. Kyle cheney tweets out just left the courtroom where trump was arraigned. The most interesting part . Several of the federal judges of District Court filled the back true back row, including chief judge bowes berg, amy jackson, and randy maas. Shreveport, louisiana, as we watch the former president return to national airport, what are your thoughts about the events of today . Caller actually thank you so much for taking my call. Im an independent. I have friends who are liberals, republicans, i love them all. Its amazing. I always see the Silver Lining and i think that somehow this is going to come out better for everyone. I dont know how. History will tell. But i think that the department of justice would prefer to go into investigations on the majority of people. Politicians. I feel that somehow if everyone could just try to find a happy medium, it would be so great for the American People. We all know that they can Work Together but it seems like theres always going to be people that need a polygraph for whatever reason. I guess when you get to a certain level you have done everything in life and now its more power and control. Anyhow, i would imagine that his indictment is probably warranted. As several are, im sure. We should all stand together because in the words of Ronald Reagan many years ago and as of last weeks congressional hearing with the ufos, there may come a time where we have to stand together and put aside our differences, left or right. Host thank you, karl, shreveport. Another text message. After being an independent, im now a trump supporter. No past history of trump being found guilty of crimes. No facts supporting indictment from democratic callers. Julie, democratic line. What do you think about the events of today . Caller i think that trump should be indicted. There is no rhyme or reason for him trying to become president again. Hes a crook and he needs to be indicted. Not only that, if you look at what hes doing, hes going for the white males. Thats who he is getting support from. The good old boys. Im very sorry that people are not listening to what hes doing. The riot that he caused on january the sixth should never have happened. Host you are calling on the republican line. Are you a republican and if so, who are you supporting . Caller im not supporting trump that is for damn sure. I am a republican. None of his family is there, did you notice that . No one from his family is there. Host kreg is next in tulsa, oklahoma. Another republican. Caller thank you, cspan. I appreciate the work you all do. Today, today whats on trial is the constitutional right to redress grievances to your government. Mr. Trump was doing just that when he felt that something was wrong with the election. And guess what . There was. Four of the six states that certified violated the constitution in their certification. Article one, section four. They changed the times and manner, the types of ballots, opening those states up to fraud. Trump had a right to say wait a minute. Pence could have stopped and checked into those certification. He couldve. Nixon sent some back when he was Vice President one time. What im saying is that this is our right of redress to raise questions. If they can take it from a former president , they can take it from us. Host im going to read a couple of quick things here. This is how the wall street journal played the indictment in their lead story. Latest trump case sets high bar for the department of justice. The Washington Times, pence turns tables on trumps star witness in the january 6 case. Heres the new york times, First Amendment likely linchpin of the trump defense. And heres the washington post, trumps intent is central to prosecutions. We have been showing you throughout this program today what the, what the charges are, the four counts against President Trump and we have been showing you a bit of shorthand but i want to read for you the three criminal conspiracies from the indictment itself. So bear with me. A conspiracy to defraud the u. S. By using dishonesty, fraud, deceit to impair lawful government function by which the results of the president ial election are counted and certified by the federal government in violation of u. S. Code 18 section 371. Number two, conspiracy to obstruct and impede the january 6 congressional proceeding of which the collective results of the election are counted and certified, the certification proceeding in violation of u. S. Code 18 section 1512 k. Finally, a conspiracy against the right to vote and have ones vote counted in violation of u. S. Code 18 section 240 one. Those are the charges in their completeness. Katie identified as a democraticsocialist in nevada. This is her text to us. Todays indictment is just as happening in real time. If president obama had done anything trump had done, any of his indictments, republicans have what would have been calling for his head immediately. Trump is getting what he deserves. Lets hear from connor in new york city. Connor, good afternoon, go ahead. Caller good afternoon. Its been interesting listening to the people calling in. It seems that those who are against the indictments never really seemed to have the evidence of why but all of the people who seem to have read the indictments in full so i guess this would be my appeal to anyone out there to actually kind of read through and see what is in there. I know when i did that, reading through a few months ago from when trump, tax fraud with the way he paid the poor and star porn star, that when i read through, it does not seem so open and shut. I think he committed a crime there. Just taking the time to read through, you can see a lot of good and it will inform people on here who say i think i believe. Host i got to ask, are you aware . Caller i am not. Host were they easy to read or were they understandable to you as a nonlawyer . Caller overall it seemed like fairly plain english. I am sure there was legal jargon that modeled it slightly, but i think any american who finished high school should be able to read through and understand kind of the full scope of it. Host thank you sir. Linda, odessa, texas, republican line. Linda, it is your turn. What do you think about the proceedings today . Caller absolutely disgusting, there is no reason for it. Have you guys ever seen i encourage everybody to see the video of joe biden talking about how the democrats have compiled the most elaborate voter fraud in history. That is exactly what they did, and talking about january 6, that was a total set up. Trump as per 10,000 troops and pelosi and schumer and other democrats refused them. What about , they were letting in these people into the capitol building. They were being encouraged to go in. This is absolutely disgusting. They have nothing, the judge that is going to preside over it, guess what . Do your research. She worked with hunter biden in the company, ok. So that is a conflict of interest right there. Host all right, linda, we are going to leave it there. The next hearing we learn from inside the courtroom from reporters inside the courtroom is monday, august 28 at 10 00 a. M. , and judge Tanya Chutkan will be presiding at that hearing. Mike from michigan texted income at this is election interference. This is the end of democracy, amen running for president , front runner every time, the very next day bidens doj goes after the front runner. Arthur up in new jersey, democrat, you are on the air. Caller [indiscernible] hello, i am calling. Host go ahead. Caller hello . I believe the charges or the indictment is correct, and i agree with special agent smith filing charges against this. Nobody is above the law. That is my comment. Host thank you for calling in, arthur. Chad with fox news got some comments on capitol hill, and he got this one from representative elise stefanik, a republican of new york, supporter of President Trumps the unconstitutional interest of president donald j. Trump is truly a chilling chapter in joe bidens weaponization of the department of justice against his leading political opponent who was beating biden in many independent polls. Kevin, nashville, good afternoon to you. Caller good afternoon. Host please go ahead. These are the pictures from former President Trump to get out of his car. Maybe he will take some media questions. If he does, we will pause at that point, tell you what, let us hold off on this call and lets watch. Mr. Trump thank you very much, this is a very sad day for america, and it was also very sad driving through washington d. C. And seeing the filth and the decay and all of the broken buildings and the walls and the graffiti. This is not the place that i left. It is a very sad thing to see it. When you look at what is happening, this is a persecution of a political opponent. This was never supposed to happen in america. This is the persecution of a person leading by very substantial numbers in the republican primary and leading biden by a lot. If you cannot beat them, you persecute them or you prosecute them. We cannot let this happen in america. Thank you very much. [indiscernible] host and President Trump is in his 757 on his way back to newark. He spent a total of two hours and five minutes in the d. C. Area for this hearing. It did not take any questions from the press obviously, just made his statement, and we are going to hear now from kevin in nashville, tennessee. Think you for holding. You were on the air. Caller ok, i am just thinking that trumps [indiscernible] are bogus. The democrats are setting a precedent, so when the republicans get back in office i can see that happening and with all of the charges coming out about the biden family, the bidens, the more that they attacked from, as a registered independent it makes me want to vote for trump even more. Host thank you for calling in. Rb in evergreen, florida is next. Rb, go ahead. Caller i was just going to say we are a modern day cold civil war, and that these indictments are the first of all these, and hopefully it will not turn into a hot civil war, but anyone with half a brain can see that this is totally a prejudiced onesided deal, and i was not going to vote for trump a second time, i did the first time, im going to vote for him at the second time simply because of the way he and his family have been treated. The sad thing about it is if he gets reelected it is going to be more of the first four years. The democrats in congress will formulate all kinds of crap and it will be nothing but investigate, investigate, investigate. Do not legislate, do not legislate, do not do your job. Everything will be a distraction and a coverup and to this end of that and the other thing, and that is all i have got to say. Thank you. Host lets hear from brian in chicago. Caller thanks for taking my call. Big fan of you all. I just got to say that on january 6, 2021 i was working for the department of defense in germany watching the proceedings with my wife, and the horror that you saw watching what trump organized and orchestrated was suggest absolutely terrifying and sickening. These indictments are absolutely correct. Just got to remind people, people talk about these vote dumps in the middle of the night. What happens is that when the votes come in they count the same day votes first. Most of the democratic votes were male in votes mail in votes. There is nothing conspiratorial about that, illegal about that. There is nothing wrong with that. And just watching trump saying the decay of the city. You know, like when he left it everything was fine. No, when he left it an insurrection act just happened on the capitol of our country. Host all right, brian, we have got the idea. Thank you for sharing your point of view. The next hearing at the federal courthouse in front of judge Tanya Chutkan will be on monday, august 20 at 10 30 am, and this from reporter Kelly Odonnell at Reagan National airport as the president was departing. Codefendant and personal aide in the classified documents case was also indicted, was there to provide the umbrella to donald trump today at the airport after his latest federal indictment. Well, this conversation will continue tomorrow morning on washington journal that begins at 7 00 a. M. Three hours more of your phone calls on the third indictment of former President Trump. Former President Donald Trump travels to a dinner hosted by the alabama Republican Party. It will be his first event since his arraignment. Will have live coverage starting at 6 00 p. M. On cspan, the cspan radio app, and cspan now. Listen to programs on cspan through cspan radio just got easier. Tell your Smart Speaker play cspan video at listen to washington journal mornings at 7 a. M. Eastern. 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