I have so many questions, selflessly selfishly curious to see how you understand it. The thing we are trying to understand is the message that you think this outcome of the election really means. Thewhat i mean by that is democrats have won the white house, but have lost 10 seats in the house, and we will see what happens in the senate. Im trying to understand whether we think this is an endorsement or a repudiation of the more progressive values that i know you have argued for or if its , something about centrism. Whats your take on what this means . Sen. Warren so look, joe biden and Kamala Harris won by more than 5 million votes. It was record turnout. They won by running on the most Progressive Agenda that a general election candidate has ever run on in the United States of america. And it wasnt just what happened with joe and kamala. Florida said were tired of waiting for the federal government and they went for 15 an hour minimum wage. Arizona said, were going to tax rich people more so that we can invest in public education. Colorado said weve had it, were going to go ahead and do a paid family and medical leave for everybody in the state. That is remarkable. Think of what that means. So i see it as a time when americans are saying, we need to make changes in this country and we need to make the kinds of changes that increase opportunity, that touch peoples lives. So for me, it means it is a mandate to joe biden and Kamala Harris to do the things we can do. To cancel Student Loan Debt for tens of millions of americans. Single biggest stimulus we could add to the economy. Put in at child care, week do it. Raise the minimum wage for everybody who works for a federal contractor to 15 an hour. Get the pandemic and the economy under control. So i think theyve got a pretty clear agenda in front of them. It is huge, but a lot of tools in their toolbox and a lot they can do. So get out there and do as much good as you can, thats my view. Andrew i want to dig into these things, but i want to ask you, one comment, it does get at this issue how much of a mandate there really is in this record. Regard. This is the comment made reportedly by congresswoman Abigail Spanberger of virginia. You may have heard this before. She said we lost races we shouldnt have lost. Defund the Police Almost cost me my race because of an attack ad. Dont say socialism ever again, we need to get back to basics. What do you make of that . Sen. Warren im not going to attack Peoples Campaign tactics. But we need to make clear what we stand for as democrats and we need to be willing to get out there and argue for it. And for me, lets talk about one of the clearest parts of it and that is our economic agenda, which is wildly popular across this country. Nobody lost any election over lets cancel Student Loan Debt, lets expand Social Security. Lets expand universal child care and universal prek. There lets make sure that everybody has access to Affordable Health care, these are things that Americans Care about right there in their lives and illinoisll tell you something else, they dont want an economy and government run by lobbyists and insiders and corporate folks. Andrew will let me ask you specifically about the biden tax plan because were in the midst of this pandemic and theres a debate whether we should be raising taxes during a pandemic at a time when theres still conversations ongoing about the need for stimulus. We can talk about student debt as well as a form of stimulus, but where do you land on raising taxes at this moment . Sen. Warren look, joe biden has said, president elect biden said , that he will not raise taxes on those making less than 400,000 a year. And i think that makes sense. I want us to make investments. Investments are stimulus spending. Look, pick universal child care, here is one, we need to make a Huge Investment and look what it would do for the economy. It would let mamas and daddies finish their education and go back to work, people who are otherwise otherwise locked at home. What else would it do . Keep a lot of little businesses up and going. Oh, here is the third part. If we make part of that every childges for care worker, then we will lift the salaries of tens of millions of people. Mostly women, mostly women of color. You know, thats the kind of thing we need to be doing. Now, the republicans want to cry austerity, but lets be clear. They gave buckets of money to billionaires. What we need to do is we need to be saying, no, were going to have more progressive taxation and were going to invest in making this economy work for everyone. We need to do it in a pandemic and we need to do it all the time. Andrew i want to get it those issues, a personal question, do you want to be part of this administration . Sen. Warren so look, im not going to comment on either on myself or the specifics about anybody else on the cabinet. What i am going to say, and im always glad to say, personnel is policy and i think it is really important that we have people in this administration who understand the magnitude of the Health Crisis that we face, who understand the magnitude of the economic crisis that is right behind that Health Crisis and who have a real ambition for making the federal government work for people. Making it meet the moment. Thats what i want to see us do. Andrew let me ask you in a different way. People talk about whether you could be up for being the treasury secretary. If you were the treasury secretary, what is the first thing you would do . Sen. Warren right now, we have to get this pandemic under control. The economy cannot reopen in any meaningful way until we actually have a plan to deal with the pandemic. And letting people die, which is what donald trump is doing, is not a plan. Outng that there are folks there who will find access to personal protective equipment and have adequate testing is not a plan. I am so glad to see president elect biden focus immediately on the pandemic and look at the people he put in charge. Doctors, health care who areonals, People Public health experts. People who will come in and say this is what it will take to get this thing under control. And thats what weve got to do. Weve got it under control. People as wes many can. That is why we need a stimulus package right now of the congress. And then we talk about what it will take to rebuild this economy. The casey worried, shaped recovery, we run a real nextright now that the four years, because of the pandemic, could take inequality that was already on a disastrous path for our nation and make it far worse. We are going to have to take steps in the opposite direction to make sure that we have an economy that works for everyone. That has to be at the heart of everything that happens in the next administration. Andrew how concerned are you right now about the transition process . Maybe i can ask you directly, are you worried about a coup . Sen. Warren i am very worried about the transition process. Of donaldpoints trump threatens in different ways. Mees what really has worried. Where are the rest of the republicans . We have all based into our assumptions that donald trump will put no ones interests front and center except his own. But the republicans who arent calling him out, that is dangerous. And this is not a game. People around the world, people who would do this harm us harm are watching this happen. They are watching a delay in the transition. But the pandemic is raging out of control. Nearly one million new cases in a week. Trump,mp is all about and he is being enabled by the republicans in the house and the senate. And that is dangerous. Andrew when you talk to your peers, republican peers, and i imagine you have this conversation may be over the telephone, maybe not, what did they tell you . What did they say to you privately . Sen. Warren you know, its like nobody wants to talk about it. This is one of the things that is amazing about this. It really is kind of the things that is hear no evil, see no evil, i dont pay attention, they just dont want to talk about it. And it is a way, in my view, to evade taking any responsibility for it. This is a moment when every republican in the United States senate needs to stand up and say, we are done. This election was called. Joe biden won. He won by more than 5 million votes. There has been effort after effort after effort to delegitimize the selection, we are not quite to be a party to that, it is wrong. It got to court over and over and knocked around and thrown out because theres no evidence here about widespread fraud, and yet they keep trying to do it. And for the republicans, people are supposed to be leaders in this nation. Not to stand up and put democracy, put the nation ahead of donald trump, is dangerous to all of us and truly, they should be ashamed. Andrew this may be goes back to the first question about where the country is. Are clearly a lot of Trump Supporters in this country who are willing to support many of those republicans who are not speaking out in large part because they feel they have the political will of at least some group of people that may act as their base. My question to you is what it means for democracy but also for democrats and your ability to get across the finish line, if if not many of the policy proposals you want to enact . Sen. Warren listen to what you just said. I think you very well described it, but listen to it. What you said is what they found that its politically inconvenient not politically convenient not to speak up. Thats not what Public Service is about. Thats not what leadership is about. There comes a time when there is a sufficient threat to urination and the matter is urgent enough that whatever the politics, it is time to speak up and that is the case in a transition. A peaceful transition is the heart of democracy. It is how the pieces work. It is how we go your by year and how we stay in a democracy. It is the election that matters. I dont believe theres any responsibility by saying it works out politically for them, but what it does tell me is to get things done going forward, it will take two things. Biden and Kamala Harris need to use all the tools of their administration. Order,ls of executive but also the tools of the agency. That is part one because the American People want them to get things done. The second is it means people cant just go home. We dont live in a world where we can now say i voted, im done, i quit. People have to stay engaged to hold government accountable, and that means Holding Joe Biden accountable and it means Holding Republicans accountable. Engagede if people stay , then we are here in washington more inclined to do the peoples business. Andrew we only have two more minutes, i will go rapidfire with you if i could. During your campaign, you said you would investigate President Trump after he left office and potentially prosecute him. Would you still potentially in this instance . Sen. Warren my view is we are a rule of law nation and that means we need to hold people accountable when they break the law. Andrew irrespective. Ok. Education. , current student debt, what do we do about the longterm cost of education . Higher ed, as you know, is through the roof, and getting rid of the debt onto itself will help a lot of people but not necessarily help the problem wheel will have in we will have in 10 or 20 years. Sen. Warren exactly why we need to do both parts together, cancel out the Student Loan Debt overhang, which president elect biden can do all by himself, and we need collectively to make an investment in our public colleges, universities, and Technical Schools so that people historically black colleges and universities so people can get an education without going into debt. I want to remind everybody, i went to what was then a commuter college, cost 50 a semester down in texas, got my four year diploma and became a special education teacher. Why did that happen . Because america used to invest in the education of our kids. Not just rich kids, not just kids born into wealth, and not just kids willing to take on a zillion dollars in debt. It was invested in all of our kids. I think that is what we ought to do for our babies and for our kids post high school. Andrew three other quick ones. You have talked about how you think people in industries, especially the lobbyist community, should be part of the administration. In terms of expertise, do you believe anybody from wall street or big business should be allowed to be in the administration . Sen. Warren remember, i hired people whose background was from wall street when i set up the bureau. The question is what is your overall Team Look Like . It is important to have a team that brings a lot of different perspectives. I think that is really critical. Andrew ok. We have great news about the vaccine, as you know, from advisor. You have been critical i think you called for his resignation talking about this issue of a lobbyist and industry pharma exec who runs op you operation warp speed. Now that they are getting more kudos, do you have a different view . Sen. Warren look, hear how you just introduced him. Not just as a former executive, he is a current major investor. He has money. Anyone who has money on the line in the outcome of something that has a Government Investment and is determining where the Government Investment is going to go, that is a conflict of interest. It is a conflict of interest and that means he should not be simultaneously representing the taxpayers of the United States of america and his own personal wealth. Andrew final question, and a personal one. You ran for president. I want to know personally, what was the biggest lesson for yourself in the experience . What do you think you learned from it . Is there something you have taken away from it, something you have learned about yourself or from the experience . Sen. Warren probably that millions of people across this country are willing to sacrifice, willing to work hard, to try to build an america that does not just work for themselves. But that works for everyone. Halls, just as zillions of them. And afterwards, always did selfie lines. And the number of people who would ask questions, who would show up, who would talk in a town hall in a selfie line about the things they wanted to see just to make our country work better, people who were in their 60s who just wanted to see us make an investment in childcare so that moms and dads could go to work. People who were in their 20s who wanted us to see make an investment to expand Social Security and disability payments. I think americans are fundamentally good and generous people. And we want to make this country work for everyone. It really was a wonderful experience. Andrew senator warren, we very much appreciate you being with us today. Thank you so very much. It is nice to see you virtually. I hope next time we get to do it in person. Sen. Warren me too. Thank you for having me. Andrew you bet. Announcer today it is q a with author and historian Harold Holzer on his book the president s versus the press. 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