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Cspan. Org supremecourt. Washington journal has focused on key battleground states this Election Year with political reporters and analysts on the ground. We examine what has changed since 2016, what Public Policy issues are motivating voters and took a look at what recent trends that can give us clues on how the state might vote in just a few days. Today we look at arizona. Joining us is chris weber, an associate professor at the university of arizona. Good morning. Guest thanks for having me. Host tell us how arizona became a battleground state, a swing state in this cycle. Guest first, demographic changes. The state is rapidly changing and was moving in a peripheral direction for the last couple of election cycles. See doesnt explain what we in terms of this particular election, where it seems to be a good amount of republican defection from ranks and republicans indicating they are voting democrat, independents are leaning toward biden and mark kelly, the senate candidate. We have seen a surge in democratic registration in the state. On the whole, that is unlikely to change the trend as were publicans far outnumber democrats in the state. Host you had an oped in the New York Times titled why would a republican vote biden, asked arizonans . Why would they support biden . What has changed . Guest i credit my colleague here at the university of arizona. Together we worked on a survey with the arizona policy lab, an organization affiliated with the school of government and Public Policy. What we find is a surprising number of arizonans across the ,isle, democrats, independents and republicans, have indicated they sort of lean towards the middle. This notion that we are caught in this polarized climate between leftleaning democrats and rightleaning republicans, while in some cases is true, it generally doesnt mirror what we see in the state. Host there is a paragraph in that oped that i want to read to everyone talk a little bit about. Says, it is no longer necessary reflected in what the parties have to offer. Arizonans often moderate democrats and republicans have been left up for grabs in the middle wall Major Party Candidates have often moved to opposite ends of the ideological spectrum. Have arizonans become moderate . Guest i believe arizonans have long been moderates. We have been a with quite a few with a large retirement community. Piece is really given the time of Political Polarization come over the past several decades, we have seen Political Parties move towards the right among republicans into the left among democrats. That has largely been a trend among political elites and not necessarily voters. What we are seeing in the polarized climate is leaving a large swath of the population up for grabs. Host our viewers can take part in the conversation. We will open up regular lines for this piece. If you support President Trump and Vice President mike pence, call 202 7488001. If you support joe biden and his Vice President ial candidate kamala harris, call 202 7488000. If you are undecided or support a thirdparty ticket, your number is 202 7488002. We are going to open up a special line for arizona residents only. If you live in arizona, we want to know what you think. We want you to call 202 7488003. You can also text us at that same number, 202 7488003. We are always reading on social media, twitter and cspan wj, and facebook and facebook. Com cspan. Surrogates and both President Trump and surrogates have been in arizona. Who do they appeal to in arizona . , a month ago,ona the Washington Post did a really nice east a nice piece describing the political nature of various regions within the state. It is generally fair to look at the state as for regions, tucson, which is where i am, which is the more liberal, democratic leaning part of the state. And northwest portions of the state tend to really lean republican. Is most likely what will decide this election and counts for roughly half of voters and probably will this race as well. Trump isto me that most likely going to win the northwest in the northeast, probably likely to lose tucson. It really is maricopa county, which is a very diverse county, that is phoenix and surrounding suburbs. So when we see the divisive nature of the president s rhetoric, that will appeal to people in maricopa county. But we have all heard the story how trump is supposedly losing that vote and were biden may pick up more traction. Host what are some of the top issues that arizonans are voting on in this election . Guest that is also a great question. In our survey, we didnt actually ask what is the most important issue facing the state or country. That is actually a pretty common question asked in the survey and we didnt have the resources to included. You will likely see an answer to that question the surveys that come out after election day. In our survey, arizonans feel strongly about what many of the nation feels strongly about, and covid, immigration, and Racial Justice protests. It turns out that among the strongest predictors for the left and right among democrats and republicans is covid as well as immigration policies. Npr, looking at is troy by they noted that arizona had the dubious mark is one of the highest number looking at a story by npr, they noted that arizona has the dubious mark over the highest deaths in the nation. How is coronavirus affecting the race in arizona . Guest i was a quite a bit. Evaluations of donald trump and of the governor and mayors and politicians, it is largely driven by partisanship, as one might expect. The largest divide in terms of evaluating the president and his covid response, the largest partisan divide is for the president. So far it seems to be much more mixed on both sides of the aisle about doug ducey come with far more republicans having views or being in opposition. It turns out there is actually it is always nice to see in surveys broad scale consensus, and we see that evaluations of mayors, both republicans and democrats have really been quite supportive of local politicians and mayors response to the crisis. The state has gone up and down in numbers. We had a rough summer. The novice had gone down recently. They are back up again. Schools are opening and a lot of folks are feeling the fatigue. It is certainly an issue that is affecting our community, as it is affecting many communities. Host lets take a look at some things that President Trump said while making a pitch for latino voters at a rally in goodyear, arizona earlier this week. Here is President Trump. [video clip] pres. Trump the Latino Community in arizona and around the country, today i am announcing the American Dream plan. Over the next four years, the American Dream plan will bring within 2 million jobs to hispanic communities, create over a half million new hispanic whichSmall Businesses, will end up being Large Businesses if i know you, and i know you well, great natural business people, expand opportunities for federal contracting. It is going to be much easier to get some of those jobs, and increase access to capital by hundreds of billions of dollars. You are going to be in great shape. You are going to say, i like him very much. If sleepy joe is in, you will ask him and he wont have a clue. Or hispanic americans will be able to buy a home, to afford Quality Health insurance and raise their families in a beautiful, safe neighborhood. [applause] phonelets go to the lines and let the viewers join the conversation. We will start with darrell from athens, illinois, and darrell supports joe biden. Caller i would like to ask about Donald Trumps remarks he has made about quite a few groups that he needs to get elected. He has said things about the military. He has said things about john mccain. He has john mccains wife making commercials against him. He said things about mexicans that come to america, that they are murderers and rapists. He said the only ones that show up for immigration hearings of the low iq ones. He has gone out of his way to just about offend every Demographic Group he needs for only thing he has left himself appios fan club. Host go ahead. Guest very interesting question. Several remarks here. What we have heard from trump and a number of congressional candidates is perhaps the number we have seen them doing better in the state then we have normally seen or predicted. There is a common line and arizona politics and National Politics ticketed to barry goldwater. Libertym in defense of in moderation and pursuit of justice is no virtue. What is interesting about that comment is not actually speaking to the political extremism plaguing our country now nor the violence plaguing our country now, but rather speaks to a deeply libertarian philosophy is very much part in parcel of arizona politics since 1964. Withntly, to the present candidates such as jeff flake. The quote which is often misinterpreted, addresses this deep philosophical individualism, which is very much part of the state. What we have seen with the president s rhetoric is it is really not resonating with political moderates. Political moderates are overwhelmingly leaning towards both joe biden and much more so mark kelly. One andtion is a good the answer is the extremism, which i wouldnt even call ideological extremism, but the divisive rhetoric is one thing that has put this state of foreplay. Caller brought up former u. S. Senator john mccain and the fact that his wife has now endorsed joe biden. We have also seen other endorsements of joe biden from other republicans in arizona, like jeff flake. How do those type of established from an clinical party like thes and from a former publican senator theylf, jeff flake are having any effect in arizona . I think so, but i cant speak with actual data. Again we see a good number of moderate republicans have indicated they will vote for biden and kelly. I do think part of this reflects the unique nature of the gop within the state, this very deeply libertarian individualistic brand of conservatism. It is also often marked with a heightened degree of civility as well as bipartisanship. That is something that donald trump very much has an appeal to. These kind of endorsements from the right, particularly from prominent, iconic republican notres, while probably persuading liberals or democrats , do likely resonate with the sort of moderate, more traditional arizona republicans. You thet me show commercial that jeff flake has cut for joe biden that is showing it. [video clip] i have been voting since 1984 when i cast a vote for ronald reagan. I have been a conservative republican my entire life and never have voted for a democrat for president. This year, principal and conscience require me to do that. I am voting for joe biden good when you fill out your ballot, ask yourself who will restore decency to the white house . Will i be project on my children and grandchildren i voted for . Who will i be proud to tell my grandchildren and children i voted for . Leadership, integrity are values we cannot put aside when we cast our vote for president. If you hold on to these values, our country will be better for it, and so will our party. And dont let anyone tell you by casting your vote for joe biden you are somehow not being conservative. This year, the most conservative and you can do is to put country over party. That is what i am doing. I hope you will join me. Voting, lets of talk about how arizona votes. Has been doing vote by mail for nearly 30 years. In 2018, nearly 80 of the vote cast were mailin ballots. Goneas the mail in process in arizona . Considering the rhetoric we have heard from the white house about how mailin ballot team can become according to them rigged. How has the balloting gone in arizona so far . Guest to my understanding, it has gone quite smoothly. Arizona has an infrastructure well capable of dealing with large amounts of mailin ballots. Casthing like 88 of votes in the recent primaries were male and. Something like 80 were male ilin. It is a part of arizona politics. I have confidence it will work relatively smoothly. That is not to say we will necessarily know the results of the election right away, but it does seem that unlike other states, arizona does have a strong infrastructure in place to deal with mailin ballots. Host do we know how many people have voted early in arizona, because i see early voting has started on october 7, and the state does count it votes before election day . Do we know how early voting is going in arizona . Guest i dont know how many of the top of my head how many votes have been mailin. We will see the vast majority of votes being cast by mail. As a personal anecdote, not scientifically speaking, when one drives around to some and dries by one of the sites that processes mailin ballots, there is a lot of people. There are lines, and i do suspect many votes have already been cast. I dont foresee any real problems, at least that is the reporting on this issue. Host as we were sitting and talking about this, i looked it up on the u. S. Elections project. 2 million mailin ballots have been returned in election, andis that there been more than 3 million ballots requested, but of course all these numbers do not include maricopa county. We see that more than 3 Million People have requested mailin ballot and more than 2 million mailin ballots have come back in in arizona. Do arizonans have confidence in this mailin process . Weve heard a lot about mailin ballots from the president this year radar you seen with confidence in this process . Guest i do see quite a bit of competence, again because its not new. Its been happening for quite some time. The magnitude is likely to be different, but it is my understanding and how it has been reported in the state that it is likely to again work relatively well. That is not to say there wont hiccups,ps, but arizona is in a good position to account and be able to process the influx. Host lets go to the phone lines. Lets talk to larry who was calling from circleville, ohio and support President Trump. Good morning. Caller i support donald trump, and i feel the state of arizona up be supporting donald trump because of what hes done to keep Illegal Immigrants from coming across their borders with theof the drugs and all of problems they have with crime and everything that has come state. Into their i feel that trump has done such a great job of trying to attack the state of arizona from all that influx. People need to look at what donald trump has done state of america and what he has done in the three plus years versus what has taken have and the people who run the country before him. I think donald trump has done an excellent job as far as getting things done and supporting america and making it great again. The Foreign Countries and put them in check but china and russia and ukraine. He has done such a great job paired at think the people need to look at everything hes done versus what was done in the eight years ahead of him. Host go ahead and respond, chris. Guest thank you, larry. It is nice to hear when folks talk about a candidate rather than just simply the opposing candidate. We live in this time and what we call this negative partisanship, where it turns out a lot of voters arent motivated by what their own candidate does or advocates, but rather with the opposing candidate represents. What we often see is folks dislike oflots on a the opposing candidate rather than necessarily liking or in ownng or endorsing ones candidate. The country would be much better if voters were more attuned to the platforms of the candidates and what they stand for resident sort of what we have seen. Host one group we havent talked about is senior voters in arizona. Which candidate is doing better among seniors in arizona and why . Guest seniors, and especially white seniors, have certainly supported the president. We have seen those numbers flipping, largely in response to covid. It is not clear that this trend in take place, but by at biden and kelly have clear, decisive edge among seniors in the state. Who lets talk to derek, is calling from randalls town, maryland. Stown, maryland. Caller mick sally has been mcsing to lose like she ally has been waiting to lose like she did before. It dumbfound to be how the cubanamericans have sold themselves out. They forgot about their civil rights and Voting Rights and all beenreat things that have that have happened to them. They can go where they want to go they could go to any restaurant or college they want to go to. All of that was from africanamerican efforts and they stab africanamericans in the back and vote for a party that has a racist history. Myope that arizona and friends, the hispanics, will get it together. We have a good chance to take arizona, and i say that to all my minority friends out there. Get out and vote. The Republican Party has never been for you. You can follow it all the way back to when they were first founded. They called themselves the Democratic Party and they left 1965 at the Voting Rights bill. Dont let them you. Trump called you everything in the book. Trump called you everything in the book, either white trash or scum or whatever. Lets get it together. Thank you very much. Int what is the latino vote arizona and which way is it trending for the president ial election . Guest again, it is trending in the biden and kelly direction. If you take the 2018 race ally and kyrsten sinema, they went for kristin cinema and that was one of the reasons why in this case we saw wheret a blue shift kristin cinema was able to pick up votes in the days after the election. Host we talk about the president ial race, but there is a senate race going on with Martha Mcsally and retired astronaut mark kelly. What does that race look like in arizona right now . Guest this is an interesting senate race in a number of ways. The campaign has been really unique. Has a much larger over the past few months then biden. Part of that is due to kellys moderate nature. He doesnt have a political background. He is the husband of congresswoman gabby gifford, and himselfmuch packaged and even in the debates several weeks ago, we saw him pushing for more of the sort of middleoftheroad policy and distancing himself from the more extreme factions within the Democratic Party. The race has been quite unique. Endorsed andy has embraced the ideology of trump. It is actually sort of interesting, because Martha Mcsally was actually congresswoman here in tucson for two terms and clearly pivoted in this race and has very much followed the same campaign trajectory as the president. Host lets show some of the ads kellyre going on in the mcsally. [video clip] my mom decided to become a police officer. She showed them and became the first female officer in our town. Everyones career path is different and this pandemic has pushed more people off course. We need to think outside the box. We need to help Small Businesses grow. College might not be for everyone, but a good paying job should be. Im mark kelly and i approve this message. [video clip] the choice is mark kelly will raise taxes on working families. I will put more money in your pocket. Kelly will put bureaucrats in front in charge of your health care. I will give you doctors with health plans and protect protect preexisting conditions. I am fighting for stronger borders. Mark kelly is for the liberals, and i am with you. Host much will the president ial race affect the u. S. Senate race . Bit. i think quite a it is a very unique race. I will not exactly answer your question, but just to say it is quite unprecedented for a challenger to wage such a campaignadvocacybased , whereas in incumbent is very much attacking that challenger, who really doesnt have a political record. In the past within empirical political science, we see that those kind of races backfire. , it worksivity works meaning it is effective among challengers attacking incumbents. Out kelly has tried to stay of that and very rarely mentions Martha Mcsally by name. We saw this in the debate and we see this in his advertising. 32nd spots are very much 0second spots, he doesnt engage the opposition very much. Thats not to say he doesnt have any negative spots, he does, in comparison to martha triedy, she has very much note that kelly is again affiliated with the sort of leftist factions within the true. Which likely isnt to an arizonaed viewer, this is pat calling for mesa, arizona. Pat supports joe biden. Good morning. Caller good morning. I appreciate your time. With all due respect, i would like to challenge your contention that arizona voters tend to be independent. Since been in arizona 1978 and came out here to get a masters degree at asu in business and have an undergraduate in economics from a school that east. I have been very, very active in political causes off and on ever since. My experience has been that even though arizonans like to say they are independent, they are not really independent at all. Or instance, john mccain was revered as the maverick and people thought that they were independent by voting for john mccain. I believe john mccain voted with george w. Bush probably about flake the time and jeff trump probably 92 of themime and to call independent and a reflection of arizona, i think is not correct at all. I was a salesman most of my adult life, and i had to go through people and have met literally thousands and thousands of people out here. My experience has been that arizona is incredibly, incredibly polarized state and so many people that call himself s or libertarians are very much hardcore republicans and they really dont take off the blinders much at all to consider an alternate opinion. I think you very much for your time, sir. Q, pat you are absolutely correct. Arizona is not an independent state but is a very republican state. If you look at registration rates in the state, the number of registered republicans far exceed the number of democrats. Republicans im sorry democrats have gained slightly and have a slight edge in the number of new registered voters over the past few months, but registered republicans still by a prettymocrats large margin. It isnt that arizonans are independent, it is that what we see when we look at ideology, whether one identifies as a conservative, moderate, or a number ofhat a large arizonans identify as moderate. That isnt to say there arent the roast and conservatives in the state, but within the two Major Political factions, the Republican Party and the them credit party, 39 of democrats identify as ideologically moderate. About one third of registered republicans identify as ideologically moderate. It isnt that the state is independent or independent borne out in is the data that there are a large number of those who really dont gravitate to the etiological poles, being a conservative or a liberal. Host lets talk about etiology a little bit. Conservatism and liberalism and other ideologies how will they matter in this election . Will they matter in this election . Guest when we talk about ideology, i will avoid the academic lecture. Just thinking about etiology ideology, you have liberalism and conservatism, it actually isnt how most social scientists understand the structure of ideology. It is a very complex thing. When we talk about those who identify as conservatives, that means all sorts of Different Things. Libertarians identify as conservatives. Conservatives or traditionalists identify conservative. When we think about this broad label, it actually does mean Different Things to different people. It applies on the left as well, that is that it is not easy to say one is just a liberal. What does that mean with the and sociallicy policy . Again it can mean. Different things. It is somewhat misleading to say that trump is going to win the conservative vote and biden is going to win the liberal vote, in fact there is a lot of nuance to that. What i suspect is happening in the state is the story of is the sort of independent philosophy that runs deep within the gop. It is something that maybe doesnt jive well with the sort thatumpstyle populism weve seen during the campaign. To an arizona viewer, mark, calling from flagstaff, arizona, and he support go biden. Good morning. He support joe biden. He supports joe biden. With Martha Mcsally, do you think there is the notion that she is sort of a lameduck senator in the fact that she was appointed to an open seat after the death of john mccain and also whether or not tying her political wagon to President Trump has hurt her in that regard because of his disrespect of john mccain. Secondly, do you think there is a groundswell of change in the state of arizona regarding race relations, specifically with the passing of prop 100 and other groundswell of people i believe who support the dreamers getting their rights. I will hang up and your answer. Guest thank you. A couple things. I am not sure that you Martha Mcsally is a lameduck senator. This is a difficult one, because even in the special election, the seat is up in 2022 again. I am not sure. What has happened is that Martha Mcsally at one time was a very centrist politician, centrist republican. In the era of trump, she has clearly pivoted in the direction of trump. I loathe to say she has pivoted to the right, because it is not clear that trump represents philosophical conservativism, in some ways perhaps, but i dont know. What has happened in the state is that the state gop has moved to the right and has become much more conservative than was the case decades ago. In that respect, and also due to the polarizing nature in reference to race and immigration that we see out of the white house, it does seem that the state is moving in a more liberal direction, though then i would see moving in liberal direction doesnt mean this is likely to become a liberal state any time soon rather much more centric. Martha mcsally appeared with President Trump earlier this week in goodyear, arizona at the rally. Here is a little bit of that appearance. [video clip] pres. Trump a woman who is running for the senate, currently a senator respected by everybody. Her opponent will soon terminate your second amendment. Martha mcsally. Martha. [applause] up. Ha, come [applause] quick. , you have one minute. Come on, lets go. Martha mcsally thank you President Trump. Have six days and just a few hours. President trump and the country are counting on us to send him back to the white house for four more years. Helping President Trump Martha Mcsally, or does his campaign hurt Martha Mcsally . Quickly, i can Martha Mcsally. Host why . Guest because of the things we have been discussing, moving away from the traditional republican, libertarian philosophy in the state, a move away from civility and bipartisanship we have seen in the state. Believet is hard to that given the president s divisive immigration rhetoric and my stomach sallys endorsement of that rhetoric and marthaps her mcsallys endorsement of that rhetoric that it helps her. Chandlerry from support joe biden. Good morning. Aller good morning for the republicans backing trump, stand up in arizona at [indiscernible] and she is running for a seat [indiscernible] host we are having a hard time hearing terry. Fully he will call back. Hopefully he will call back. Lets go to harriet. She supports President Trump. Something, and i have heard it a couple of times about really ticks me off these 545 missing immigrant tilden. I dont immigrant children. I dont know if people are aware, but during the obama administration, there were thousands of immigrants lost due to protocol who they didnt find them again. They were put into the hands of the human traffickers. There was the marion, ohio incident and many immigrant children that were sexually hurt because of the lack of protocols of what was going on in the obama administration. I just wanted to straighten that out and i wanted to straighten out the people just dont get it about Illegal Immigrants. Often, and one person i followed many years ago was terry anderson, who explains immigration hurt black americans. I just wanted to put that out there. It is available. There were many things on tv almost 20 years ago on dateline states weree border having issues of hospitals closing, losing jobs, they were depleted, financially depleted because of the inflow of illegals. Host is immigrants in play as a topic in this years elections in arizona . Guest yeah, it is. It is again a partisan divide although we have to focus on the differences and in some sense, it is important to focus on the similarities. What we see is that among democrats and republicans, on a number of immigration related issues, such as a pathway to citizenship for dreamers, there is a majority of support on both sides of the aisle for policies such as this. That isnt to say or diminish the other partisan differences that exists. Republicans are far more supportive of building a border wall than are democrats, but attesting tong testi the ideology of the Republican Party, there is support for a republican wall. Madeleine, is to calling from granite bay, california. Madeleine supports joe biden. Caller good morning. I am not in my residence in granite bay. I am in arizona. I am the daughter of a railroader in the greatgranddaughter of a scotch immigrant to yuma, arizona and a mexican immigrant who was in los still partn it was of mexico. I am a retired hr director of a city and county in california, and i keep up with the need for more people to fill jobs and we need immigrants just as we always have, and i really get thet in arizona with all of umpers. How can people really support trump when we need people of all races to come into this country to fill jobs . We do not have enough people in this country. We have all these immigrants peeking the fruit and vegetables in california and working in the fields here. That is my question. Why cant people be more supportive of immigration . Guest madeleine, i dont know and i entirely agree with you. Is lets go to susan, who from tucson, arizona. From support who is tucson, arizona. Susan support President Trump. Idea that support the we want to have freedom and liberty in this country. My experience in the state of 50 years and with hr behind me like the last woman, is that we want legal immigration. The point. People keep missing the facts on everything and democrats in tucson are notorious for that. Everyone gets hung up on semantics. I dont care how trump talks. I care about results. People that are hispanic and black in this country have had the best time as far as employment they have ever had because of him. People do not want to get the Mainstream Media as the only source, because they dont give the facts. Joe biden for all of the vital he is getting from the Mainstream Press is very crooked. These people who want to back and are not looking into the true facts of everything. The bottom line is we support the mayor in tucson do not support the mayor in tucson. We do not support shutting down. Usinesses randomly he also has a conflict of interest with them. We do not support the mccain per se she has never been anything except an appendage to john mccain who was also an interloper to the state. There are a lot of things people dont know unless you live here 50 years had the bodies are buried everywhere and no one wants to uncover them. This young man is young and doesnt know about this but he can do some research. She was found to have stolen drugs when she was early for she was with john mccain. Go to research and you will find the numbers and research. Host go ahead and respond, chris. Guest a couple of things. What we did in the survey as we actually, this is in response for covid but not overall, but what we see is throughout the republicans and democrats have been largely supportive of local mayors. I take ends with the idea that the mayor here and throughout the state havent been doing their job. Informationlot of in that statement and i would rather not respond. Who isets go to shane calling from texas. Shane supports joe biden. Good morning. Caller good morning. I am currently living in texas. I did my masters at asu at the tempe campus. I consider myself a social fiscal conservative and voted for mccain in 2008 ann romney in 2012. And the bidenin relationship and see the type of thing we are missing and politics is the ability to talk to the other side, come to bipartisan common ground. That type of civil politics is something i think biden remembers and how the relationship with mccain to come to some common ground. That is one of the main reasons why i think biden can help us get to a place of host go ahead, chris. Guest im not sure if that was a question or not, but we see differences among the candidates. Biden has packaged himself as a centrist which has been as betting upsetting to much of the leftleaning faction of the Democratic Party. His politicalms experience, and in the same sense what mark kelly said about his governing style and plan is very much to work across the aisle and work with both ,emocrats, republicans moderates, conservatives and liberals. Thankwe would like to chris for being with us here today and walking as through the important battleground state with three days left until election day, on november 3, when Voters Decide who will control congress and occupy the white house next year, stay with cspan. Watch campaign 2020 coverage every day on cspan, stream or on demand at cspan. Org, or listen on the free cspan radio app. Your place for an unfiltered view of politics. Go untilhree days to election day, President Trump heads to pennsylvania for a Campaign Rally tonight, one of a number of events he is holding of the keystone state today. He narrowly won pennsylvania by 44,000 votes against Democrat Hillary Clinton in 2016. Watch live coverage at 8 00 p. M. Eastern on cspan. Sunday night on q a, a look at mailin ballots and Election Security with the by paulison policy centers matthew wilde. Orcan be called by 10 00 11 00 on Election Night because they count so much of their early voting quickly, but we have states like michigan and pennsylvania, they could determine the election and they have policies about how fast or early they can count absentee ballots. I think Cyber Security experts are less concerned right votebout the threats to counting and they have been in years past and that is a good thing. Thats because of the increase in paper records and coordination among the states and federal government. There are a lot of reasons to feel good that the security of this election will be better. Mailin ballots and Election Security sunday night at 8 00 p. M. Eastern on cspans q a. Before hitting the campaign trail today, President Trump spoke to reporters on the tarmac. He talked about how his campaign is going and

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