Transcripts For CSPAN Washington Journal 10312020 20240712

In your state . We will open up our regular lines. If you support President Trump and Vice President pence, we want to hear from you at 202 7488000. If you support democratic candidate joe biden and Kamala Harris, we want to hear from you at 202 7488000. If you are undecided or support another president ial ticket, your number is 202 7488002. You can oyster text us your and we at 202 7488003 are always reading on social media. Once again, we are looking to talk to our viewers in battleground states only this morning, as the last few hours of this election season come to a close. Cook political report actually has a list of states which it considers to be up for grabs for this Electoral College season. You can see those states on your screen, six states listed officially as tossup states theida, georgia, iowa, second Congressional District of maine, North Carolina, ohio, and texas. Those are the states that are officially listed as tossups from the Cook Political Report. We want to hear from voters in those states for this first hour, but first, the president ial candidates are crisscrossing the nation, talking to voters in those key battleground states. Wasriday, President Trump in waterford township, michigan, right outside detroit, making his final pitch. [video clip] joe biden is going to wipe out your state, shut down your factory, eliminate your job, bring things to china, punish your family with a trillion dollars times four, 4 trillion tax hike. We gave you the biggest tax reduction in the history of our country. Thats the good news. The bad news is he wants to give you the biggest tax hike in the history of our country. He wants to eliminate private health care. We have 100 80 Million People with private health care, have fought for it all of their lives. He wants to end it and it is not going to happen. And send your state into a very deep recession, which i think is worse. I think it is depression, but i hate to use the d word. How good have i done in bringing Car Companies here . You went 42 years without a car plant, you were losing all your plants. 12 years ago i was named man of the year of michigan, can you believe it . I made a speech and said, you are losing all your car business. You lost 32 of your car business to mexico and other places and we are bringing it all back. We have many factories under construction, expansions. You have not had that ever. And remember this, i only ran because of biden on obama. If they did a good job, it wouldnt i wouldnt have run. They did a lousy job. I watch them now, im going to this, do that. Why the hell didnt he do it . Host now President Trump was in michigan, which is not listed as a tossup state under Cook Political Report. Cook has michigan listed as a lean democrat state. If you look at the Cook Political Report, they dont have any states listed as lean republican, but under lean democrat you have the states of arizona, michigan, minnesota, the second Congressional District of nebraska, nevada, new hampshire, pennsylvania, and wisconsin. Those are the states that Cook Political Report has lined up as possibles for either side. Lets go to our phone lines and talk to our first caller from georgia, james, calling from blairsville, georgia, and james supports President Trump. Good morning. Caller yes, i just wanted to say dont worry about georgia. Georgia will be read. Here red. Here in union county, we are going to vote a landslide for President Trump. Host where is union county . Caller we are in the north part of the state, on the North Carolinatennessee line. Oft you are seeing a lot support for President Trump in your county and neighborhood . Caller it is outstanding, the support that brother trump is going to get in union county. Host have you already voted or are you waiting for election day . Caller my family has already voted in this community that i live in, the whole community has already voted. Host what was your voting experience like . Did you have to wait in line . Caller i voted absentee ballot. I always vote absentee. Host cynthia is calling from roseville, michigan, and cynthia supports joe biden. Good morning. Cynthia, are you there . I think we lost cynthia. Gary is calling from sarasota, florida, and gary supports President Trump. Good morning. Caller good morning. I think florida easily is for trump. Florida,rump has arizona, North Carolina, georgia, the true battleground states will be michigan and pennsylvania. If trump wins pennsylvania, he wins the whole shebang. Host titus is calling from west bloomfield, michigan. He supports joe biden. Good morning. Caller yes, michigan folks really excited for biden and harris. They are sick and tired of President Donald Trump. People are just tired. And they want someone who is going to unify all the people and refrain from being extensively excessively divisive. He has brought shame to the presidency of the United States. We are just tired and cant wait. Host have you already voted or are you waiting for election day . Caller i coded i voted a couple of days ago. Host did you have to wait in line or were you able to get through pretty quickly . Caller 20 minutes. You can feel the excitement of folks, you know. Callingts go to samuel from chippewa falls, wisconsin, and samuel has not yet decided who he is going to vote for. Good morning. Caller good morning. Trumpnsidering president because i saw your coverage of him in rochester, minnesota last night. Hello . Host go ahead. Caller and the sound went out, technical difficulties, and they cut it off. I thought that was unusual and most unfair. The other thing that has pushed me to the end, i see the name toady bubble and ski tony seeinglinsky i am things that were not given to me freely before so im leaning toward the president. Host there apparently was really bad weather in wisconsin which caused the audio issues. You are not the only one who didnt hear. Apparently the winter has started in some places. Caller that is something that should be looked into. I dont think it was technical. Host i can assure you it was technical because it wasnt just cspan, it was the entire press pool that were having audio issues last night. Caller thank you for that. So thats the two points that i am leaning towards trump for that reason. Callingts go to jeff from st. Petersburg, florida, and jeff supports President Trump. Caller very good to talk to you. Thank you so much. Trump after towards being tossed around like a tennis ball this year, im leaning towards trump hello . Host we hear you. Caller i am leaning towards trump not just for the economy, but when i hear biden talk about the troops, im reminded of january 12, 2016 when iran soldiers went all over a u. S. Navy boat while u. S. Navy men were on their knees at gunpoint. I thought i would never see that in my life. Obviously,2000 one, the worst thing i have ever seen i think 2001, obviously, the worst thing i have ever seen i think. M i am excited for 2020 and hopefully we can go towards unity and a way we have never gone in this country before. For economy reasons and international reasons, i am leaning trump. Host democratic president ial candidate joe biden is also crisscrossing the nation trying to get those lastminute votes, and on friday he addressed supporters in des moines, iowa. Here is what he had to say. [video clip] i know how hard it is. More than 230,000 people have died. Because covid19, nearly 1700 dead right here in iowa. Ofa hit a Record Number daily cases yesterday with over 2300, and a Record Number of hospitalizations, more than 600. We have now hit 9 million cases nationwide, tragic milestone. Millions of people are out of work, on the edge, and they cant see the light. They dont know, it just looks dark for them now. 82,000 iowa jobs lost in this pandemic. And still, they have not come back. Iowa since lost in donald trump became president. Here at the fairgrounds, the iowa state fair canceled for the First Time Since world war ii, and donald trump has given up. The white house chief of staff said it out loud last week. Not going tore control the pandemic. Were not going to control the pandemic. The debate last week with donald trump, he said we are rounding the corner, its going away, and all he could say, we are learning to live with it. Remember what i told him. We are not learning to live with that, we are learning to die with it because of you. Host lets see what of our social media followers are thinking about the election right now. s go to a tweet that says should all states be tossup states . Why should a few red states decide the election . Vote to get rid of the Electoral College relic. Another says trump deserves to lose florida, georgia, and texas. A Facebook Post that says lets get back pennsylvania, michigan, and wisconsin. Another post says florida will be trump. One more Facebook Post that says look at the rallies. Trump by a landslide 2020. I will remind you that we will. Till have ongoing coverage our coverage continues with mike and joe 11 30 eastern, biden and former president barack obama joined us in michigan at 11 1 45. Kamala harris makes a stop in lake, florida at 4 50, and at 8 00, President Trump speaks at a rally in pennsylvania. Larry is calling from beaver falls, pennsylvania and he supports joe biden. Caller good morning, america. I voted for biden harris and blue down the line. 230 a million americans have died from the virus and trumps lies, and second, we have to protect our Constitutional Republic from this exit and those are the. Wo reasons host heather from michigan supports trump. Go ahead, heather. Caller my husband and i are autoworkers and we need we know a lot of people and , it is a right to work state as well, and that is why we support trump. He supports america and the american to go to work. We have worked most of our lives very hard, along with some of our friends. Some of them are for biden and some are for trump. We are still all friends. We dont argue about it. We each have our own opinions. We respect them but we support trump, my husband and i. Host lois is calling from glenwood city, wisconsin, and she supports joe biden. Morning. D caller i am supporting biden harris. I already voted. , thenk President Trump coronavirus, i think he has. Ailed us host have you already voted . Caller yes, i have. Host what was the voting like . Caller a lot of absentees. Host were you able to get in and out fast . Caller i voted absentee. Host did you mail your ballot or dropped it off . Caller i mailed it in. Host does your state provide a way to check if it caller caller has gotten there . Yes, they do. Host what did it say . Caller that it has been received. Host read is calling from charlotte, North Carolina and supports joe biden. Caller one, i think people are not acting intelligent when they. Upport trump behavior, hiss lies, and how his whole cabinet are nothing but criminals, so i dont know how someone can be intelligent and vote for president who assumed his kind of behavior. Host did you vote already or are you going to vote on election day . Caller i voted early, had my ballot delivered, i filled it out, and had it taken into the election office. Host have you looked to see whether they have received it and it has been counted . Caller they called me and thanked me for my participation in the voting effort. , a lot ofe can see our viewers have voted in this election. Lets go to the u. S. Election project and their statistics. Plus has been 87 million early votes in this election. 30 million inbout person votes with about 57 million mailed ballot returns. Some states do not differentiate from mailed ballots and in person votes, so the number may not be exact, but so far they are counting 87 million plus early votes from states who are reporting those votes in america so far. Now, lets go back to our phone lines and see if we can talk to some more voters in these undecided states, these battleground states. Lets talk to petrus calling callinga beatrice from alba, florida and supports President Trump. Caller good morning, can you hear me . Host yes, i can. Caller i support President Trump. Host have you already voted . Caller yes, i did. Host how did you vote, in person or by mail . What was your experience like . Caller i voted in person and probably waited five to 10 minutes to get into the polling place. Host where there any problems for you when you voted . Caller none at all, it was very easy. Host so beatrice, where have you been getting your election news on Election Night . How do you plan to find out what has happened during the election . Caller i will probably watch the news on tv, probably switch between several different channels. I normally dont just depend on one new station because they can be biased, no matter which one you look at. Host lets talk to james calling from raines lee, maine. He has not decided who to vote for. Caller good morning, how are you . Host just fine. What will push you one way or the other . Caller i am very disappointed in the whole political system. We have these politicians saying everything, but they are not doing a thing for the country or the people. It is all about themselves, the money, and whatnot, and it is very frustrating and i dont know why the people of the United States dont get this. They are just playing us for fools. They are powerhungry, looking for money. We have senators that have been here that have nothing gotten done, they are worth millions. How did they get those millions . They didnt get it from being senators or congresspeople. It was from being corrupt, taking money. The American People dont see this. Host what is going to make you decide one way or another . Are you watching political rallies or researching the candidates positions . If you are going to make a decision you have to make one before tuesday. What will help you make your decision . Caller i will probably vote for trump, just because i dont like the ideas of pelosi and some of those, but i dont know. Like i said, it is just very frustrating, and i dont understand why the American People dont wake up and get rid of all these people that are just there for themselves. Host how do you figure out which politicians are working for you and which are working for themselves . How can American People make that decision . Caller i dont know. There is a few out there that are good, honest people, but a lot of them are there just for the power and the money. I dont know how we are ever going to change that. I dont know, you tell me, i guess. Host we also in maine have a pretty Important Senate race. Have you made a decision on the senate races in your state . Caller i will probably vote for Susan Collins. Here is somebody that is telling that Susan Collins is being bought, but shes had over 80 million to 90 million put in her campaign. Saying that she is corrupt because she is taking all this money and there is this person taking the most money that has ever been spent in the history of the state of maine. Find a you going to good, honest person like that . I dont know. Host when do you think he will make your decision . Will you make your decision in the voting booth . I assume you havent voted. Caller i vote on the day of the election. Host you think you will wait until you are in the voting booth to make your decision, or will you make it before . Caller probably when i get in there, yes. Host debbie is calling from dallas, North Carolina, and supports joe biden. Caller yes, good morning. Host good morning. Go ahead. Caller i support biden because the last eight years he was with obama i never heard anything about biden. Everything was calm, everybody liked us and people need to remember, god this is our election. God made the world and we are not supposed to shut other people out of this world. If you are a christian and believe you shouldnt have abortions, then you shouldnt lock children up to get taken away from their families and die in cages. Those are gods children and he put us on this earth. He did not put us in the United States, he put us on earth. Ande cannot feel compassion love our brothers and sisters on the others of the earth, i dont know where it will go. I believe god has given us a reckoning because we need to start being nicer to our brothers and sisters. I am sick and tired of people being mean to each other because they are a different color or came from somewhere else. We all came for some more else. Somewhere else. I have a message for President Trump. America was named after an italian. This nation was actually named after an italian, so there is people of all nations who come here to live in america. We say one nation under god. No one nation under god. It should all be under god. Host have you already voted . Caller i voted as soon as they opened up. I was there within 15 minutes and out within 30 minutes. What part ofst North Carolina is dallas in . Caller dallas is right near charlotte. Host there was no problems with your in person voting in dallas . Caller no, sir, and everything was very cordial and people are cordial here, but if there is somebody that is a little bit racist and you have a racist bone in your body, you think all that rhetoric they say in those mean things they say to people, you think thats funny. I dont believe thats funny. I dont believe in that. I believe we all should be one nation under god, one world under god. Host carl is calling from only, texas, andl knee, ports donald trump read supports donald trump. Have you already voted . Caller yes, sir. Host what was your situation like . Caller walk in, vote, walk out. Host you have already chosen President Trump. What made you choose President Trump this time . Old,r well, 65 years uneducated, last 10 years of my life before i retired eligible to make six digits a year. Everything i hear, everything is reversed. Everything that democrats say. Epublicans are doing now with these hunter biden emails, they were coming in a strange they were in a strange place. The only president who has ever worked for this country and never taken a dime is donald trump. There is a lot of early. Oting in texas caller down here it is trump and we have a saying, chomping at the bits. Host inglewood, florida charles has not decided where who he will vote for yet. Go ahead, charles. Caller good morning. Host we can hear you. Charles, are you there . Caller are you there . Caller yes. Host i think we have lost charles. Lets go with rick, who is calling from dayton, ohio. Rick supports joe biden. Good morning. Caller yes, i do. I support biden. I support biden because he is telling us everything, everything that we are looking for. , what heh care plan will do for the country. He is not a liar, he is not a , when you compare the two, mr. Trump is both a liar and a cheat. And he is not telling anybody what he will do. So, he goes to his little rallies and just tries to stir to get them to clap for him, just for him. Not for the country, just for him. Joe biden is the man. Thank you. Host as we go through our further calls, lets look at some of the front pages from around the nation as we talk to you about those battleground states. Lets go to james, who is calling from ohio. James supports President Trump. James, good morning. Caller good morning, sir. How are you today . Host just fine. Go ahead. Caller i support donald trump because he is going to be he is the best president who has ever ran. I am 77 years old. I have been through a lot, been down the road a little bit. Yeah. Social security for the first four years when he went in. He was there. Onont know why they jumped him about that. All he did was support unemployment, took our social the y and supported unemployment for eight years when him and obama were in there. Now he is running for president and every word out of the mans mouth is alive. Host james, have you already voted or are you going to vote on election day . The mail voted through because i am homebound. I cant walk. I did it through the mail, ok . Host have you checked to make sure your vote arrived and it was counted . Ir first time i voted have never voted in my life until now. The first time i ever voted and i am 77 years old. And i voted for the best president we have in there that re out ofver had in thei all of our president s and i have been through a lot of them. I am not stupid. I am not stupid. I know what is going on. Does nott hope biden get in there. Use trump said, he will put in a deep recession that this world has never seen. Host lets go with bernie, who is calling from raleigh, North Carolina. Bernie supports joe biden. Good morning. Caller good morning. How are you . Host go ahead, bernie. Caller do people ever think of this . It is just as easy to spread love as it is to spread hate. That is why i vote for joe biden. When you put down racist people for crazy reasons, it creates friction. Just like when you throw a stone in a pond and it ripples out, that is what Donald Trumps words do, not only in america but around the world. He is a very hateful person. It is easy to dislike him. Forget about policies and taxes and all this other stuff. The man is a horrible human being. Paul, who iso with calling from West Palm Beach florida. West palm beach, florida. Paul supports President Trump. Good morning. Caller thank you for taking my call. The first thing, i support President Trump for his legal immigration. I came to this country legally, 25 years ago. These people, the democratic people, are they going to open the country for illegal people . That is the first thing they will do. Is going to support that. Second thing is trump will bring a roaring economy into this country and very fast. He is the only one who will do it. I will not vote for biden because kamala and sanders will take over this country into socialism. Bidens corruption not being talked about on cspan . T is true the emails are true. Why is it not being talked about . Have you already voted in this years election . Caller i did. I voted for President Trump. Host how was your voting experience . Caller it was good. We were standing far apart and everybody behaved very good. Host how long did it take you to get in to vote . Was it a quick process or did you have to wait in line . Caller it took about four to 10 minutes. Host was that unusual . Caller this was the biggest turnout. Everything was orderly. Everything went along very smooth. Host once again, the president ial and Vice President ial candidates are crisscrossing the nation, trying to get the last minute votes in. Wentpresident mike pence to flagstaff, arizona on friday to make the appeal for his and President Trumps second term. Here is a portion of what Vice President pence had to say. Four years ago, we inherited a military that was hollowed out by reckless budget cuts. An economy that was struggling to break out of the slowest recovery since the great depression. Terrorism was on the rise around the world. Onwitnessed a steady assault our most cherished values. In three short years, we rebuilt our military. [cheers and applause] we revived this economy. We secured our border and supported Law Enforcement and stood for life, liberty and the constitution of the United States. [cheers] [applause] and the dramatic results on the economy really speak for themselves. After joe biden had spent eight years as Vice President trying to tax and spend and bail us into a growing economy and presided over the slowest recovery in 80 years, President Donald Trump created the greatest economy in American History and we are doing it again [cheers and applause] did you see the gdp numbers yesterday . America it is historical. Grew by 33 economy during the third quarter,. Hattering any previous record the Great American comeback is on host lets go to our social media followers and see what they think about the upcoming election. Here is a text that came in that says blue moon tonight, blue skies on election day and big blue wave. Lets go, joe. Keeper text says people saying biden took money from foreign nations. That is alive. If you believe that, you should look at how much trump has made while in office. Look it up, it is all there. Another text says Vice President biden continues to say a vote for him is a book to fundamentally change america but he does not state what the change is. Change highlyal concerns me. In our house,says all of us voted for biden harris, we voted for democracy against dictatorship and white supremacy. Lets go back to our phone lines and talk to alice calling from cold spring, minnesota. Alice says she is undecided. Good morning. Caller good morning. I still have reservations about biden. I really worry about bidens cognitive issues. In the interview with george washanopoulos, he said he endorsed by the boilermakers. Is i believe that pennsylvania. Yet, it came out that he was not endorsed by the boilermakers. Trump was endorsed. There was a controversy about that. Through the years, i have been andhing when biden speaks one time, i was watching an interview. He was at our valley, he was supposed to be giving an award. He says up on stage and all of the nice things about the event. Nd then vet says stand up, man. The vet was in a wheelchair. Host palace, it does not sound like you are undecided. Does not sound like you are undecided. Caller i was in the dim a credit Party Democratic party for years. I worked on campaigns. I was working to become a national delegate. I have always been really interested in civics and government. All ofs to me like this stuff that we are being not down on, like twitter allowing an article by the new on their social media site, i think that we have gotten too we are not hearing things. I am also a catholic. Into the reason i got politics was the prolife issue. Then does not support control of abortion. Host once again, it does not sound like you are undecided. Caller i probably will be. I dont know. I think people have to look a little deeper. I think people need to get to sides. At both i think that our media is. Etting so biased back to you, one callers get back to one of the first callers. Insinuating that anybody that is andervative is not smart a basket ofs are deplorables, i just feel that we are never going to get united if that keeps up. Who isets go to anita, calling from augusta, georgia. Anita supports joe biden. Good morning. Caller good morning. Host go ahead. Caller yes. I am calling to support joe biden because there are a lot of people still out of work. And the payroll Protection Plan did not help a lot of people. Hello . Host go ahead. We can hear you. Before, shelady voted for trump. Why would you go on and on talking about joe biden if you have not made up your mind . I feel like joe biden will bring the country together and they are not talking about unemployment. Donald trump does not talk about that anymore. Harris hit the road as well to try to get some lastminute voters in texas. Worthde her pitch in fort on friday. Here is what Kamala Harris had to say. [video clip] this moment will pass. It will pass. Years from now, our children and our grandchildren and others , they will look at us, each one of us. They will look in our eyes and they will ask us where were you at that moment . See, we will be able to tell them so much more than just how we felt. Fort worth, we will tell them what we did. We will tell them what we did. On thistell them that particular friday afternoon, on the last day of early voting in texas, we were sitting in the field, hanging out with kamala we will tell them we texted everybody, called everybody, emailed everybody we knew, that yes, we knew we were getting on their nerves but we knew they would get over it. People of theed path that we are on and that shoulders upon which we stand that we reminded people about what is at stake. And we reminded people about their power. In this moment, where we are dealing with crises, we reminded our friends and our neighbors and our family that you are not alone. Dont let anyone make you feel small. You are are big, strong, you have power. And at election time, that power will be through your vote. And you will tell them, when they ask, that you elected joe biden the president of the United States host lets go back to our phone lines and lets talk to mark, who is calling from colfax, iowa. Mark supports President Trump. Mark, good morning. Caller good morning. How are you . Host just fine. Go ahead. Caller being on hold for the last 10 minutes, there are a lot of things i could address. I will try to stick to the reason i called. Do i support donald trump . Yes. Donald trump is not perfect but i support him for his policies and the programs and the things that he is getting done and doing. One of the reasons why i could never support joe biden is that i have listened to commercials. I am a republican. They have these commercials where they show republicans who say that they could not vote for donald trump. I saw one on yesterday morning which about sent my Blood Pressure through the roof. Colin powells former assistant, Richard Armitage. They presented Richard Armitage as this person of High Integrity and he is a former cabinet member and stuff. And that he could not vote for donald trump. I think people have a short memory. They dont remember exactly what Richard Armitage did. Outed valerie who. Lame james novak was a reporter for the Washington Post. He wrote ancle article about the facts leading up to the gulf war. Yellowcake uranium was one of the big reasons for the gulf war. Anyway, Richard Armitage outed the name of Valerie Plame in the article of the Washington Post. And then the democrat congress, under bill clinton, charged Vice President dick cheneys ie, asant, scooter libb him being the one that outed Valerie Plame. His life is ruined. He goes to jail. Richard armitage was finally proven to be the person that outed valerie when james novak was dying of cancer and he, on his deathbed, gave up his source. So, they present these republicans that are not for donald trump. A lot of them are not of the highest character. That is one of the reasons i could never support joe biden. Host lets go to beverley who is calling from stockbridge, georgia. Beverley supports joe biden. Good morning. Caller good morning. How are you . Host i am fine. Go ahead. Caller yes. I voted for joe biden because he has a heart for the people. It is not about republicans. It is not about democrats. It is like he said. It is about the people, the hearts of the people. I believe he will restore hope for the people, like he said he will secure Social Security benefits and medicare and the health plan. Like the person has said before, he is going to make sure the health care is put in place where people will preexistingve people with preexisting conditions will be able to be cared for regardless of the preexisting conditions. I believe joe biden will take care of the blue state. I look forward to this. I voted. It took three hours but i was ready. So excited about this. I have a great feeling about this. I believe that trump will be out of the white house. And the the white house country is going to be restored. I just pray that nobody gives up and and that there is hope that everything will be restored back and even greater once biden gets into the white house. There are a couple of things that you can watch on cspan later today. Biden isall, joe joined by former president barack obama today at a drive in Campaign Rally in flint, michigan, three days before election day. Atch live coverage beginning 1 45 p. M. Eastern on cspan, online at cspan. Org or listen free on the cspan radio app. President trump will be headed toward pennsylvania for a rally tonight. One of a number of events he is holding in the keystone state. Trump narrowly won pennsylvania by just more than 44,000 votes against Hillary Clinton in 2016. Watch live coverage of President Trumps rally in munter ville, pennsylvania at 8 00 p. M. Sville, pennsylvania at 8 00 p. M. Havein mind, we will Constant Campaign coverage here whospan as Voters Decide will control congress and occupy the white house next year. Stay with cspan tuesday and all night for Election Results in the race for president and for house and senate races around the country. And watchso stream ondemand on cspan. Org or listen on the cspan radio app. Live Election Night coverage begins at 9 00 p. M. Eastern on cspan. Your place for our unfiltered view of politics. Lets get a few more calls in before the top of the hour. Lets start with sean, who is calling from miami, florida. Sean says he is undecided. Good morning. Caller good morning. The way that wuhan handled flewa, it is the wuhan from the red communist chinese. Have handled this better. The media has lied a lot to trump. A country without borders is not a country. We have to have borders. We have to take care of americans first, last and always. This Green New Deal that the ocrats want to propose its not going to happen. It is not feasible. You have blackouts like you have in california. I am a little perturbed with trump with this corona situation. It should have never gotten to this point. They should have known the chinese were up to something because of the trade deals. I dont believe he was told the right information. Host what is it going to take to make up your mind between now and election day . Happenedight now, what that i saw was the gdp picked up. That was a good thing. I am still a little upset with trump on this corona situation. He has allowed the narrative to be written by the media. It seems like the democrats have a better handle on putting out a narrative about the coronavirus. I think that trump, he has to seal the deal as far as what he will actually do with the wuhan flu . What is it . Is it a virus . Le dont know the actual rea numbers. It is like immigration. We dont know what the true numbers in immigration are. Host what do you need to hear from President Trump or from joe biden that will help you make your decision . Caller i would like to know if there is a vaccine that will definitely be out by the end of the year. I would like to know for sure that there will be a vaccine and people can feel safe that the have flu will not fatalities. Host if there is no vaccine by the end of the year, who will you vote for . Caller i might sit out the election. I dont know what i will do. I might vote for trump because trump is saying the right thing on the economy. To me, this whole thing is the economy. , when it if it had not come in from china, trump would be winning big time. Int lets go to mark jacksonville, florida. Mark supports President Trump. Good morning. Caller good morning. I support President Trump. In and trackede it and it has been counted. That i am very unhappy with either candidate. Is notke how trump that he has not handled this covid thing poorly. I dont like how the mask issue is a big issue with me. I did not vote for joe biden, only because of the people behind him. Not because of him. His running mate is part of it. A big part is Bernie Sanders who will probably take labor secretary in his cabinet. People like him and elizabeth reason ie the primary would not vote for joe biden. Host lets go to david who is calling from grand rapids, michigan. David supports joe biden. Good morning. Caller good morning. I already voted. It is at my city office, waiting to be counted on tuesday morning. I am all set with that. I want to make a couple of comments. You know how we know these hunter biden emails are fake . The Republican Senate has not taken it up to investigate. You know why . Because it is fake. Donald trump sucked in the 90s. Everything he has ever touched he has ruined. How anybody could vote for somebody like that, i just dont get it. I hear a lot of people talking about how they used to be democrats. Hold on a minute. All of a sudden, you dont care about your daughters reproductive rights or Health Rights . Just dontdden you care about other people. You woke up and said im not a democrat . It just doesnt make sense to me. Host lets go to chuck who is calling from macon, georgia. Chuck supports neither President Trump or joe biden. Chuck, who are you supporting for this election . Caller i have to tell you that i dont see a viable candidate for me to support. I will tell you why. Mym the one party system in estimation, the democrats are publicans are a one party system. You have lipservice for sure. All i hear is a competition between people trying to select individuals who might produce policies that make sense to them. But really, a choice between two different distorted realities. It is all about not making any progress at this point, but which establishment would you like . The old establishment that was here a decade ago that basically did not represent the people but continue to represent the special interest, that would be biting. Or, would you like the smash and grab, utterly, completely naked corruption of the elitists being able to gather, consolidate and literally rob everything out of the wealth of the country directly on the gop side. . Which one do you like . The truth is people are doing contortions of reality in their own minds. Lets go to gary supports President Trump. Good morning. Caller i do yes. , not aolicy voter personality voter. I have been voting that way since the early 80s. So i support the candidate reagan tax cuts, the trump tax cuts, lower regulation. More money in individual citizens hands will make the world and the u. S. Better place. The issue i have a problem with this foreign policy. But if you go around your house and look at all the products and find nothing made by russia and too much made by china, and thats a problem i think. Is calling from georgia. She supports joe biden. Caller yes, i support biden. I voter about a month ago, nobody in the location but myself. The problems that i have with trump is the profanity that he i dont want my grandchildren to think that this is how the president is supposed to act all the time. And the no mass wearing in the super spreader events he has held at the white house. Talking bad about bidens two sons, the one that is deceased and the one that survived. I dont like the rhetoric that trump speaks. Callie s go to kelly, who supports President Trump. Good morning. Caller good morning, can you hear me . Host yes, go ahead. Yearr i change my 30 Party Affiliation after being embarrassed in 2020 to be a democrat. Thats pretty sad. The parties influences on the states governors, the control protesters and Police Defunding is very alarming to me. Trump is the first one to admit hole. In an a he does not stop once he starts and he cannot resist the challenges to overcome obstacles. Maria, callingto from saylors berg, pennsylvania. Maria supports joe biden. The reasond morning why im calling is i support biden, because of everything that trump is done in the past. When he was a young man with his father, he was always in trouble. He was now mr. Wonderful. And i dont see him making any changes except making the rich richer. Host coming up, our guest joins theor the 2020 battle on senate. And we wrap up our battleground series with a look at arizona. Aris weber will join us for conversation about that state. We will be right back. 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Good morning. Guest good morning. Host lets start with the basic question, whats the most likely outcome of control of the senate coming up with elections on tuesday . Guest currently republicans control . 53 seats and democrats have 45 with two independent that caucus with democrats. How we see things playing out next tuesday, we believe that the most likely outcome is that democrats have a net gain of four to six seats. For the senate you need 51 seats for an absolute majority, or if your Party Controls the white house you only need 50 because the Vice President can break ties. With that projected net gain of between four to six seats we do believe that democrats will take back the senate this year. Host where do the democrats find those four to six seats . What seats do you think democrats will take that will give them that majority . The most basic path to the majority revolves around four seats that were always going to be highly competitive this year, arizona, colorado, maine, and North Carolina. All of them represented by republicans, but all states that democrats can do very well in an that President Trump is , if not down win significantly in the president ial election. Those four seats make up the foundation of the path to the majority for democrats. Changehat has made that for those four seats that you identify, that will flip them from republican to democrat in this election, according to your predictions . Guest from the outside of the cycle, it was all race always pretty clear that if democrats are going to take back the senate, they would have to win these four seats. They were must win. Part of the reason is because doug jones of alabama is in a very tough reelection race. He won a very narrow special election and has been viewed as an underdog this year for a long time. When democrats do the math, they generally start not at zero but negative one when they think about how many seats they have to win. Three of those seats, arizona, colorado, and maine are seats where joe biden has done very ,ell, relatively speaking against President Trump. In colorado theres no sense that trump will win colorado, same with maine. Even arizona which is traditionally republican, we have seen democrats be much more competitive over the last several years. Because its easier to win a senate seat, joe biden is and thosehe ticket three were always at the top of the big thingt that has changed is that the president has sent shown no signs of getting his head back into this president ial election. If anything his actions and behaviors have really dragged down a lot of these down ballot republican candidates and a lot of these competitive races. Certainly leaves some target races for democrats. Its not helpful if the president is losing by 10 points versus five points as they probably will in a state like colorado. Is thee important thing second and third tier that we did not think were gonna be so competitive at the beginning of the air, but because the president has dropped so much in his port, not just in and his support, not just in democratic and swing states but pretty republican states, it created a lot of opportunity for democrats to put together multiple paths to the majority. In addition host to that, greater democratic gains are possible. Democrats have done a really good job on this, this is the culmination of a couple of also withhis is really Strong Fundraising and there are depths to which donald supports have fallen since 2016. They have greater opportunities for themselves. When we say greater gains are possible, we are looking at President Trump support currently at low but stable hes doing just poorly enough in these really republican states that there is an opportunity for democrats. There is a possibility that if trumps support is even just a , all of theower states become really precarious for republicans. And they all are at about the same point in time. None of the seats we think maybe most of these seats wont end up turning out for democrats of trump performs above expectation, but if theres even a slight drop in support then many races come online at the same time. Thats why we say greater gains scenarioble, in a bad for republicans they really get wiped out. Host lets have our viewers join in this conversation, we are opening up our regular lines. Republicans we want to hear from you at 202 7488001. Democrats at 202 7488000. Ndependents at 202 7488002 you can always text is your questions at 202 7488003. And we are always reading on on facebook and twitter. Jacob, we have been hearing a lot of talk that the elections may not end on tuesday. That there will be more counting and some uncertainty as we move into figuring out who is our next president. Will we have that same uncertainty about control of the senate . Will we know who wins the senate seats on Election Nights question mark or do expect to see runoffs and more counting as the weeks go by after election day . Guest it is certainly possible that we wake up wednesday morning and not know who controls the senate next year. Theres a few reasons why. There are two Senate Elections georgia has a pretty unique election clause that requires candidates to actually win an absolute majority of the vote in order to win the election outright in november. When you have more than two candidates on the ballot in a divided state like georgia becomes a very difficult task. If no candidate gets to that 50 plus one magic number, the top two vote getters have to run again in january in a runoff. There are two senate races in georgia, and the possibility that both senate races will proceed to runoffs, meaning there will be two senate seats that we dont know the outcome of in november with a closely divided race that could mean the difference between the majority and minority for democrats. Know is because maine hasnt plummeted a ranked Choice Voting system in which voters dont just pick one candidate, they rank all of the candidates on the ballot. If no candidate gets the majority, the candidate who got the fewest votes is eliminated and their votes are reallocated based on the second choices on those ballots. That means that the actual counting process may stretch for at least a week if no candidates get above the majority on the first ballot. In that closely watched race between senator collins and its likely that no candidate is doing is receiving their counsel we may. Ave to wait two but you have moved senate races towards democrats this week, can you slain why . Eludedgeorgia has , this is the year that they are going to win georgia and what we see with the polling data with the democrats is that this is going to be year on the president ial level that the democrats will be able to finally compete seriously in georgia. Both ofhe senate level, the incumbents have serious issues that they contend with and the two democrats are doing very well. We just dont see the president performing particularly strongly in georgia. The combination of all those factors create a lot more and democrats, were a pretty nervous bunch, are cautiously optimistic about and we through georgia we start withost jeanette, in georgia, on the republican line. Caller yes. Hello. Thank you for taking my call. I am voting for trump. Host what about your senate races in florida. Caller yes in florida, im voting for President Trump. Host what about the senate race . Caller what . Host what about the senate race . Caller im voting for President Trump and mike pence. Dee come ongo to the democratic line. Line. Mader your first caller the point that i wanted to. One of the worst things we have done in our society is eliminate civics from the curriculum. This is how you got propaganda and misinformation and people cannot distinguish one thing from another. I used to be a civilian Public Affairs officer for the department of defense when i lived abroad in my service for 10 years. I have seen how autocrats work and how government can follow park and become dictatorial and how it starts fall apart and become dictatorial and how it starts with misinformation. Its amazing to me that in 202070 people dont understand my hope is that once joe biden once joe is elected we could have a serious discussion about compulsory civics being brought back to classrooms. Bob, calling to from texas, on the republican line. Caller good morning gentlemen. Every time i see a pollster or a think tank suit walk out there and tell us who is trending laugh. R why, i just these guys dont know us, they really dont know us. Outside on the beltway and manhattan, very few people put trust into what these polls have to say. All im gonna say is for all of the hope that democrats have in wiping out the republicans this year and taking trump out of office, what are you going to do if hes reelected, are you going to apologize just for being wrong . I dont remember any pollster talking about woops we made a mistake but this is lining up to be 20, even in the senate i think you will see some races surprise people and i wonder how that will settle. Host jacob, can you tell us how you all did in 2016, and any changes you have made for your predictions in 2020 two assure us of how yall are doing your work this time . 2016 there was a sense in the media that there was no way donald trump could win. That sense felt detached from the facts in the data. And the benefit of hindsight when you go back and look at the that we were working off of that time. Though signals are always a , people wereddled saying what they chose to say. And the imagination really weuded judgment thats why ended up with a situation where Hillary Clinton was presented as this indomitable and obvious victor, which did not turn out to be the case. And we at inside elections, we dont just use public polls are national polls, we spend all of our time on talking to sources thingsave a sense of how are playing on the beltway, it can happen that you miss the stories if youre not talking to anyone. We do a good job of that. That we like to cite this on the house of representatives side, which is where you get the most granular and interesting look at the trends that are happening in these races across the country out of projection was the democratic gain in 2016. The final results with six seats. There were some misses on the president ial side which happened across the media, the fundamental story with the most granular data told a pretty true tale in 2016. As to whats happened in 2020, a lot of the folks who go out and to be fair we do look wee make a take a look at all of the polls made public but we dont make our own. So i speak as a reader not a conductor, one of the big things that happened in 2016 was people did not lookveys at how white voters without College Degrees move towards trump. In states where those voters make up significant populations, michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, they missed this late uptick for support for the president. Thats a problem they have since corrected. Those samplesting properly to get a better sense of the electorate. When we look at this more , its not just on the public data but also conversations and the data that comes out of the party groups, the super pacs, the campaigns themselves. Theyre so much more of that available on a much more granular level and its really those pieces of information that. E are trying to synthesize its perfectly possible President Trump could win. There was a mistake in 2016 that said it was not possible and that was a mistake. We dont see that from the leadership this time around. It would take a pretty specific and extraordinary set of circumstances at this point for that win to happen, but its not impossible. We have tried to lay out a path for him to do so every time we visit the president ial race because there is a path and there is a chance that he ends. P taking it at this ad. Looking if gary peters wins, it [video clip] itif gary peters wins, empowers the radical left. Their agenda, to force medicare us 34, costing trillion. Killing michigans Auto Industry with the Green New Deal. Its time for a change because a vote for gary peters is vote. Gainst michigan future host we have a question from a social media follower. Whats the situation with Lindsey Grahams seat. Thats Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, whats the South Carolina senate race look like . Guest the South Carolina senate has had some attention over the last couple months. We rank that is tilted republican with one data point away from a pure tossup. Its a very competitive race in South Carolina, hes running , who isjamie harrison by all accounts a phenomenal candidate. Officever run for public but has proven to be an amazing fundraiser. He holds the record for the largest fundraising call of any Senate Candidate in history. Speakerery compelling and has an amazing story. Hes really been able to put Lindsey Grahams feet to the fire in South Carolina. This is a great example of that kind of secondtier of races that we were talking about earlier in states that democrats have no business winning in but are somehow putting themselves someposition to eke out wins. The president s support has dropped in a state like South Carolina which he won by 14. Oints in 2016 so hes clinging on to a lead of a five to 10 points. Combined with Lindsey Graham being a relatively unpopular senator creates opportunities for a good candidate like harrison to come pullup the upset in South Carolina. Host we have been talking about your prediction that democrats take the senate with four seats. If the republicans hold the line , what are those states that they would need to hold the line to keep control of the senate . Guest the first thing republicans need to do is win all of the races they should be winning already. In south the races carolina, texas, alaska, kansas. So task number one is hold those races. Republicans need to make sure that they dont lose those races in georgia, which they may have to continue fighting for through january, which is an additional task. And they have to win the tossup this isich is in iowa where there are some good challengers. And in iowa, theresa greenfield who has not been a particularly compelling candidate has really proven doubters wrong against her opponent, joni ernst, the incumbent senator, who was a Top Republican candidate but has not performed as strongly as most would have expected. Hey have to do all of that the most likely candidates in maine and colorado are Susan Collins, whos been around for so long and has her own distinctive brand and she has support in the state which is not directly tied to President Trump space which is President Trumps base. The other thing that would be helpful for republicans to hold the line is the senate race in michigan, where gary peters is facing a strong challenge from john gate john james. He is favoredhink to win that race. Host and you can tell a lot about what political people think about senate races by looking at the money they are spending on those races. Are there any races where we are seeing the National Republicans or the National Democrats moving their money away, showing that they may have said this race is over, lets put money somewhere else . Guest its been fascinating to see, these fights really do come down to the wire in almost every state. The exception is colorado, where republican, ishe the underdog in his reelection against the former governor. Democrats have pulled out and they dont think its competitive anymore. They think their resources are going to be spent elsewhere. Republicans have continued to put money to support senator gardner. So they still think theres a chance that he could eke it out or they would be spending that kind of money on these more competitive races. If you look at where the money is going to, georges number one georgia is number one on this list. If you like every two weeks the Republican Party is putting another 9 million into georgia because they recognize that these races are only becoming more especially and joe biden is only running stronger in georgia. ,f they cannot hold the seats there is little possibility they could walk into 2020 with a Senate Majority intact. One juan,o to in texas, on the independent line. Caller hello, im from the southern part of texas, four minutes away from mexico, im an independent leaning for trump. The reason is, i have been watching all this since before he went down the escalator. Before, people would come in with a lot of people every day, taking jobs away. I cut grass for a living, i do it for 25 along. Cut people come in and grass for 15. Taking jobs away. Other than that, if you think about it, can you imagine with with open borders, could you imagine if hillary would have won . Or joe biden with an open border policy . Covid19 is going to get dangerous. ,ost lets talk about texas how does john cornyns race look in texas . That race as lean republican. Hes a real favorite in that race. What makes it interesting is that joe biden is very competitive in texas. We view texas as a tossup on the president ial level, no democrat has won texas for president since jimmy carter, but joe biden is tied or even a little ahead in the state depending on who you believe. What that means for the senate race is that there is an outside possibility is that a democratic candidate could pull off an upset. And all you would have to do to win as a democrat is to win over the joe biden voters, you dont have to worry about winning over any donald trump voters so a democrat running against an established republican, the math becomes far easier if joe biden is winning at the top of the ticket. We think texas is a tossup on the president ial level. We think for hagar to win the senate seat seat, joe biden has to win texas by a few points to spare because we do think there will be minimal drop off between the president ial and senate ballot. Thats why we give john cornyn the edge. Even if biden wins texas by a handful of votes, we think he could eke it out. But if joe biden puts up a larger victory, there is a real chance that mj hagar could win and take back the sea. Host one of our social media followers wants to ask about split ticket and locations in Key Senate Races and the possibility of the georgia runoff which could control determine the control of the senate. And peter might lose in michigan is it common for a president to win and the other party keeps control of their senate seat or is it one party wins the president the and that party also takes the senate seat . Guest for most of the 20th century there was a fair amount of ticket splitting and it was tofectly common for voters vote for one party for president and the other for senate. Thats a practice in decline. 2016 was the first year where the president ial race and senate race lined up in every single state on the map. Ticket splitting will be incredibly important for democrats in particular when it comes to the senate in 2020. The barebones path to the majority does not rely on ticket splitting and that is something i want to emphasize. Arizona, colorado, North Carolina, maine, joe biden is favored in those states. Senatek those semi candidate could win with zero ticket splitting, purely off of the strength of joe bidens support in those states. Where gets more interesting is the second tier of states. What we have seen is that the president s level of support and a lot of these places has dropped so low that even a marginal amount of ticket splitting could mean the difference between a democratic so kansasd defeat, which voted for donald trump by 2016. Nts in we think is barely winning kansas by more than five or six points at this point. Thats how far he has fallen in these heavily republican areas. What that means is for barbara , she does barbara not have to win over trump voters. She just has to win over 5 . While ticket splitting is a practice in decline, there are. Eople out there who will theres a good indicator that there are republicans in kansas who will vote for a democrat in the down ballot race. Host lets look at some more ads coming from the senate race. Lets go to colorado. [video clip] i have a simple message, dont believe these ridiculous attack ads. Thats partisan nonsense John Hickenlooper is one of the most decent Public Service i have known to die have seen him give out his personal cell number. I saw him give out money to help people when no one thought it was possible. Hes one of the most compassionate leaders i know and we need that now. Im John Hickenlooper and i approve this message. [video clip] colorado gets two senators, we chose one democrat and republican and it works. We have the bureau of Land Management and Space Command to move to colorado. I convince republicans to fully fund land and Water Conservation for the first time ever, and before John Hickenlooper started running he admitted that i got the job done. If you believe in progress more than partisanship, im asking for your support. Im cory gardner. We talked a little bit how important is . T to voters in the state or does it not matter in most senate races . Guest there are some voters out there who like the idea of one democrat and one a publican its becoming increasingly rare to have one from each party. Because theres an increasing level of polarization for a candidate like cory gardner. This is his last leg to stand on , those ads are a good encapsulation. Hes running on specific theevements to do with state of colorado and the notion that hes a balanced team in washington, d. C. The reality is that neither of the reason forg that is, donald trump is losing colorado by a wide margin. Trump wasif donald only losing colorado by the five points he lost in 2016 cory gardner would have a real shot to win this race area the reality is, with the top of the ticket doing so poorly in the state and theyre so much anger and frustration at the Republican Party, its difficult to see how a senator like cory gardner, a freshman republican who has tied himself closely to President Trump over the last several years has not tried to walk this more independent path that his colleagues like Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski have done. Hes associated with trump at the end of the day. Even if he manages to get 5 of ticket splitting. That means he might lose by 10 points instead of 15 but it is still a loss. Guest ons talk to our her democratic line, peggy, from georgia. Good morning. 2016. D republican in thevery quickly after inauguration i realized i made a mistake. Im now supporting joe biden as well as our Democratic Senators Senate Candidates. I just feel that the Republican Party lost me completely. They pledged allegiance to trump instead of truly being republicans. So im coming down on the democratic side this time. Thank you. Lets talk about georgia, when will we see whether theres going to be a runoff . If there is a runoff, how long will it take us to find out who won the runoff . Guest we should have a good sense the first thing i will say is that of these two Georgia Senate races, almost certain that at least one of them is going to runoff. This is a special election for senator johnny isaacsons seat. He resigned last year and was replaced by Governor Brian Kemp down in georgia. This is different from most other senate races because theres no primary. All candidates from all parties appear together on the same ballot in november, but the same rules still apply but no if no candidate gets 50 plus one, it progresses until a runoff. Its pretty clear that when no candidate is going to get that because you have senator les lauren doug collins and theres with mattcrats lieberman and ed tarver and so with five major candidates its almost impossible that any of them wins outright. So that race is headed to a runoff. Perdue and his democratic challenger, its extremely tight. We may not know for at least a few days who won that race because the final margin really matters with the total support , we know for ag one on november 3 that if candidate is ahead, we need to know if they have actually made the magic number of 50 plus one, so counting every one of those votes could take a day or two. I would not be surprised if we dont have concrete results on Election Night in georgia. But if that race goes to a runoff, we will have two senate 2021, twoanuary 5 of days after the United States senate comes back into session on january 3. Theres a real possibility that we could have a senate with two vacancies which we get back at the beginning of next year, more one for thell have special election and with this there could be a potential majority in the balance. Lets take a look at more u. S. Senate commercials, turning to alaska with a couple of commercials on air in alaska now. [video clip] did al gross think we would not find out . He lived in luxury for years and his california mansion but still filed for a dividend, he took the dividend while living in california. Campaign contributions from Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton and supports radical policies which would cut oil and Gas Production by 40 . Vote against california democrat al gross. [video clip] having a doctor in the senate is critical on many fronts, somebody who actually knows the health care system. Has a masters in public health. Lowers drug prices. And doesnt ignore the covid crisis. We need a doctor in the house. We need a doctor in the house. They need a doctor in the senate, thats why my husband, al, is running. You move the Alaska Senate race from likely republican to lean republican, what is it looking like an alaska . Guest you pick some good ads to teeny up t me up. Those ads tell the story of whats happening in alaska. Its incredible that we are sitting here a couple of days before the election and talking about will the republicans lose a senate seat in alaska . That tells you a lot about what you need to know about the greater field of play in the senate and where the republicans are playing defense. What has happened in alaska is ,l gross, an Orthopedic Surgeon who files to run as an independent but who for now for all intents and purposes is running as a democrat, has become a really compelling competitive challenger to dan sullivan. Gross has a great media team around him, he built up a bit of a cult following and raise more money than any other Senate Candidate ever has in alaska. Hes really holding sullivans feet to the fire. A big part of the reason hes been able to do that is because of his profile as a medical doctor in the time of a pandemic. We see quite a few candidates putting their medical experience front and center on the house and senate competition. Doctors are not only always viewed with a great deal of respect, but particularly in these trying times, when our First Responders and frontline workers are the subject of so much interest and attention and appreciation. Al gross is really running as dr. Al gross in all of his campaign material. That allows him to put together a pretty compelling message. Meanwhile the republicans are very worried about this race. Weve seen them pull money out of other places and spend runions in alaska to campaign ads because the democrats in alaska, which is kind of wild to think about it shows just how many places they have vulnerability. Is a quirky political state, doesnt always move the same way as the rest of the country. What we have seen there is that the president is actually not very popular even though he was very popular in 2016. This is another one of those states where he won by 20 points by2016 and now he is winning may at best four or five because people at the end of the day or just tired of them. If hes only winning by four or five points, that creates opportunities for wellfunded compelling candidates like al gross to sneak by the incumbent and pull up and upset pull off an upset in a state that six month ago republicans did not think would be competitive, democrats didnt think it would be competitive either but here there, talking about alaska saturday before election day. Is calling from hendersonville, North Carolina, on the independent line. Caller good morning. I have question. Host go ahead. Caller the question i have is one of credibility. We have a lot of social media, we have a lot of individuals that prognosticate with can happen, just like the individual you are speaking to now. But they dont know anything. We can prove it on television now, we can ask the gentleman in front of you how many times has an individual lost the popular vote and become president , see if you knows. It is important because you have to look at whats happened in the past to project some expectation as to whats can happen in the future. Larry, first of all we are talking about senate races not the president ial race in this segment. Guest even the senate race, im from North Carolina, Cal Cunningham, the people in the do not talklike you about all of the sexual innuendos and lack of trust that Cal Cunningham has injected into the campaign. What you have is false narratives like somebody voted to disallow health care for veterans. If they were an actual veteran , or could go to the v. A. That they voted four times to get rid of preexisting conditions, thats incorrect, they voted to repeal the cares act, which in essence was an extension of medicaid. These are the things that the people vote on, what you tell them. And the things you tell them are not accurate. Host jacob lets talk about the North Carolina race guest . Guest the North Carolina race. Guest to answer larrys question it happened three times before. Once in 2000, 1 in 1886, once in 2001, 1 to 1986, and of course Hillary Clinton won the popular vote and donald trump h1b Electoral College. Thirdly happen again, if donald trump wins again it will likely happen while losing the popular vote. Admissionnninghams of infidelity in the scandalous Text Messages have been released to the news media and they have not had as much of an impact on the race that i think a lot of republicans were expecting. This is something that has gone a lot of media coverage, both in the National Media but also the local media in North Carolina as frontpage news. The reality is and what we have to do is look at the data. It does not seem to have made thom tillis the favorite in this race again. He is still struggling to tread water in North Carolina. While Cal Cunningham is certainly not nearly as popular as he was before the scandal broke, thom tillis is not popular either. They are both about the same degree of unpopular in the state. This is the thing that we talk about, when the scandal broke it was something we were paying a lot of attention to. But the reality is, voters are so aligned in terms of partisanship with a Larger National picture that at this point, and this is perhaps a new phenomenon in american politics, they are willing to overlook these sorts of questions of respectability that have emerged around cunningham, given his admission of an affair. 20 years ago that mightve sank a candidate. But in the age of donald trump, we dont need to go into detail about everything he has openly. Dmitted to voters dont see a vanilla sex asndal like Cal Cunninghams disqualifying for Public Office anymore. Host a social media follower wants me to ask about the senate race between mike sp and cindy hydesmith in mississippi. Guest mike is running a really great campaign. Its a most competitive campaign for a democrat since musgrove ran into thousand eight. ,es out raising his opponent hes earning great reviews from democrats in the state. But the reality is mississippi is a really republican state. Its not just really republican, but pretty inelastic. Wise,ery racially kharey white voters vote for republicans and black voters vote for democrats. There are more white voters than black voters. Its very difficult for democrat to win. We saw this in 2018, when they faced off last time. And ran an Amazing Campaign still came up seven points short, we saw this in 2019 when jim hood, a democrat, largely believed to be the democrats best shot at winning the mississippi governor tori race, he ran a great race, he lost by five points to now governor tate reeves. Its very difficult for democrats to win in mississippi, even if they do everything right like mike espy. Gilbert, ingo to detroit, michigan, on the democrat line. Caller yes, go ahead. Electionof the 2018 when democrats took the house, i remember there was an indication that with democrats winning the house in 2018, a premuch assured them that they could win the senate in 2020, could you expand on that . What 2018 meant to 2020 . Question. Ts a great i think i agree with that sentiment, 2018 really did provide a roadmap for democrats. Was ae saw in 2018 massive increase in Public Interest in the nuts and bolts of campaigning, we saw people who had never been involved in , and with the election of donald trump they put them into the arena in a major way. Starting january 1 2017 when millions of people took to the streets for the womens march, those people became politically active for the first time in their lives, many of them. It power democrats to victory in a lot of places in 2018. In places where democrats have not been competitive before. And they really did outline the path for democrats to win not just Traditional Democratic areas but a lot of these strongly republican suburbs where democrats have never been competitive room competitive before. And they showed by running good candidates in these races and putting Energy Behind it that democrats could win these longtime republican places. When you look at the 2020 senate map, theres a lot of places ofre thats an outgrowth 2018. Especially places like georgia, where there were two really competitive house races in 2018 and democrats won one and lost one. But they were very close in areas that republicans would put up huge margins. That shows democrats that there is something going on in the atlanta suburbs. That means if you win statewide he might have a shot. We are seeing that come to fruition with these two senate races and joe biden at the top of the ticket in georgia. Tampa,imilar story in democrats picked up a house seat is emler story in kansas, democrats picked up a house seat. That wasnt even a close race, sharif davis knocked it out of the park. And in 2020 comments the strength in the st. Louis suburbs and the kansas city suburbs in kansas thats really powering the Democratic Senate with barbara. Its absolutely correct that the fundraising machine and the entry into the suburbs that have long time been republican areas that we saw in 2016 are really important factors when looking up why the democrats are so competitive in the senate in 2020. Host we have one more collar in connecticut,m, in on the independent line. Congressional candidate here, no matter what happens after the election we have to realize that we have a democracy deficit. We have a deficit of the populace understanding, a lady referred to civics earlier, elites have never wanted the be fully awareto of whats going on or cognizant of all factors. And when i say theres a we have a minority government now. Received 3 million less votes than Hillary Clinton, about 2 . In the senate, we had a Supreme Court nominee for the republicans in a close vote. Listen to this. Of the sitting republicans, they received 53 million votes. But democrats received 67 million votes paired we had a senate that is not democratic. In the vote. We had the senate that is not democratic. There was a study done that due to gerrymandering that should have had 18 more seats. No matter what happens in this election, we have a democracy deficit and the system needs to be changed. Host go ahead and respond, jacob. Guest in terms of the way the parties are currently constructed, who belongs to the Democratic Party and who vote democratic and republican . Inre is an advantage built with the United States senate, simply because the senate is equal representation legislature , so wyoming gets two senators and california gets two senators. As it currently stands in terms republicanstion, run most strongly in the ru ral states who dont have a lot of people but still get to senators. If you have gone back 12 years, you wouldve seen Democratic Senators from north dakota, wyoming, a lot of the great plains states, nebraska, isisiana, so what i will say currently republicans have the structural advantage in the senate. Those are not written in stone. It is perfectly possible that over the next decade or two windss, the political shift and they go up in some places and down and that changes the calculus in the senate. On the house side, it is absolutely true that the republican wave, state legislatures had domain over far more Congressional Districts when it came to redistricting and drawing standard democrats. Lines than did democrats. Part of the reason why democrats fromt take back the house 2010 all the way up until 2018 was because those lines had been drawn in such a way to give republicans an advantage. That is just a matter of science and fact. A lot of the gerrymanders got woken because they had been drawn in such a way using the 2010 notion of who a republican voter was. Maybe that notion was a white woman in her early 50s who lives in the suburbs. In 2018, that voter cast democratic ballot the first time in their life and now they are voting for joe biden. The voters that people expected to be publican and they were based on in 2010 have moved. Obviously, coming up on another redistricting year, well see what the breakdown of the state legislature says. But the reality of politics at the end of the day is things dont change until they do and they change really quickly. Democrats are at a structural disadvantage when it comes to representation now. But there is nothing that says that will persist. Host we would like to thank Jacob Rubashkin for being here today and walking through the election. We really appreciate your time. Guest thanks for having me. Host coming up, the last in the top ng series on the with a look at the university of arizona. Fetzer chris weber will join us. We will write back. We will be right back. Sunday night on q a, a look at mailin ballots and Election Security with a bipartisan commentator. Florida is a state that may be able to be called by 10 00 or 11 00 at night because they count early voting quickly. In, state like which like michigan, wisconsin, which could be determined and they have a policy that limits how fast early they can count the ballots. The Cyber Security experts are less concerned right to votet the threat counting than they have been in years past, and that is a really good thing. That will increase coordination among the states and federal government. There are a lot of reasons to feel good that the security of this election will be better. Securityn ballots and sunday night at 8 00 p. M. Eastern on cspans q a. With Amy Coney Barrett confirmed and sworn in as the newest justice, the Supreme Court come with nine justices ears five oral arguments, next week, listen live nine hears five oral arguments, next week. Mississippi. Fulton versus city of philadelphia. Listen to the oral arguments live or ondemand at cspan. Org Supreme Court. Washington journal continues. Host washington journal has focused on key battleground states this Election Year with political reporters and analysts on the ground. We examine what has changed since 2016, what Public Policy issues are motivating voters and took a look at what recent trends that can give us clues on how the state might vote in just a few days. Today we look at arizona. Joining us is chris weber, an associate professor at the university of arizona. Good morning. Guest thanks for having me. Host tell us how arizona became a battleground state, a swing state in this cycle. Guest first, demographic changes. The state is rapidly changing and was moving in a peripheral direction for the last couple of election cycles. See doesnt explain what we in terms of this particular election, where it seems to be a good amount of republican defection from ranks and republicans indicating they are voting democrat, independents are leaning toward biden and mark kelly, the Senate Candidate. We have seen a surge in democratic registration in the state. On the whole, that is unlikely to change the trend as were publicans far outnumber democrats in the state. Host you had an oped in the New York Times titled why would a republican vote biden, asked arizonans . Why would they support biden . What has changed . Guest i credit my colleague here at the university of arizona. Together we worked on a survey with the arizona policy lab, an organization affiliated with the school of government and Public Policy. What we find is a surprising number of arizonans across the ,isle, democrats, independents and republicans, have indicated they sort of lean towards the middle. This notion that we are caught in this polarized climate between leftleaning democrats and rightleaning republicans, while in some cases is true, it generally doesnt mirror what we see in the state. Host there is a paragraph in that oped that i want to read to everyone talk a little bit about. Says, it is no longer necessary reflected in what the parties have to offer. Arizonans often moderate democrats and republicans have been left up for grabs in the middle wall Major Party Candidates have often moved to opposite ends of the ideological spectrum. Have arizonans become moderate . Guest i believe arizonans have long been moderates. We have been a with quite a few with a large retirement community. Piece is really given the time of Political Polarization come over the past several decades, we have seen Political Parties move towards the right among republicans into the left among democrats. That has largely been a trend among political elites and not necessarily voters. What we are seeing in the polarized climate is leaving a large swath of the population up for grabs. Host our viewers can take part in the conversation. We will open up regular lines for this piece. If you support President Trump and Vice President mike pence, call 202 7488001. If you support joe biden and his Vice President ial candidate Kamala Harris, call 202 7488000. If you are undecided or support a thirdparty ticket, your number is 202 7488002. We are going to open up a special line for arizona residents only. If you live in arizona, we want to know what you think. We want you to call 202 7488003. You can also text us at that same number, 202 7488003. We are always reading on social media, twitter and cspan wj, and facebook and facebook. Com cspan. Surrogates and both President Trump and surrogates have been in arizona. Who do they appeal to in arizona . , a month ago,ona the Washington Post did a really nice east a nice piece describing the political nature of various regions within the state. It is generally fair to look at the state as for regions, tucson, which is where i am, which is the more liberal, democratic leaning part of the state. And northwest portions of the state tend to really lean republican. Is most likely what will decide this election and counts for roughly half of voters and probably will this race as well. Trump isto me that most likely going to win the northwest in the northeast, probably likely to lose tucson. It really is maricopa county, which is a very diverse county, that is phoenix and surrounding suburbs. So when we see the divisive nature of the president s rhetoric, that will appeal to people in maricopa county. But we have all heard the story how trump is supposedly losing that vote and were biden may pick up more traction. Host what are some of the top issues that arizonans are voting on in this election . Guest that is also a great question. In our survey, we didnt actually ask what is the most important issue facing the state or country. That is actually a pretty common question asked in the survey and we didnt have the resources to included. You will likely see an answer to that question the surveys that come out after election day. In our survey, arizonans feel strongly about what many of the nation feels strongly about, and covid, immigration, and Racial Justice protests. It turns out that among the strongest predictors for the left and right among democrats and republicans is covid as well as immigration policies. Npr, looking at is troy by they noted that arizona had the dubious mark is one of the highest number looking at a story by npr, they noted that arizona has the dubious mark over the highest deaths in the nation. How is coronavirus affecting the race in arizona . Guest i was a quite a bit. Evaluations of donald trump and of the governor and mayors and politicians, it is largely driven by partisanship, as one might expect. The largest divide in terms of evaluating the president and his covid response, the largest partisan divide is for the president. So far it seems to be much more mixed on both sides of the aisle about doug ducey come with far more republicans having views or being in opposition. It turns out there is actually it is always nice to see in surveys broad scale consensus, and we see that evaluations of mayors, both republicans and democrats have really been quite supportive of local politicians and mayors response to the crisis. The state has gone up and down in numbers. We had a rough summer. The novice had gone down recently. They are back up again. Schools are opening and a lot of folks are feeling the fatigue. It is certainly an issue that is affecting our community, as it is affecting many communities. Host lets take a look at some things that President Trump said while making a pitch for latino voters at a rally in goodyear, arizona earlier this week. Here is President Trump. [video clip] pres. Trump the Latino Community in arizona and around the country, today i am announcing the American Dream plan. Over the next four years, the American Dream plan will bring within 2 million jobs to hispanic communities, create over a half million new hispanic whichSmall Businesses, will end up being Large Businesses if i know you, and i know you well, great natural business people, expand opportunities for federal contracting. It is going to be much easier to get some of those jobs, and increase access to capital by hundreds of billions of dollars. You are going to be in great shape. You are going to say, i like him very much. If sleepy joe is in, you will ask him and he wont have a clue. Or hispanic americans will be able to buy a home, to afford Quality Health insurance and raise their families in a beautiful, safe neighborhood. [applause] phonelets go to the lines and let the viewers join the conversation. We will start with darrell from athens, illinois, and darrell supports joe biden. Caller i would like to ask about Donald Trumps remarks he has made about quite a few groups that he needs to get elected. He has said things about the military. He has said things about john mccain. He has john mccains wife making commercials against him. He said things about mexicans that come to america, that they are murderers and rapists. He said the only ones that show up for immigration hearings of the low iq ones. He has gone out of his way to just about offend every Demographic Group he needs for only thing he has left himself appios fan club. Host go ahead. Guest very interesting question. Several remarks here. What we have heard from trump and a number of congressional candidates is perhaps the number we have seen them doing better in the state then we have normally seen or predicted. There is a common line and arizona politics and National Politics ticketed to barry goldwater. Libertym in defense of in moderation and pursuit of justice is no virtue. What is interesting about that comment is not actually speaking to the political extremism plaguing our country now nor the violence plaguing our country now, but rather speaks to a deeply libertarian philosophy is very much part in parcel of arizona politics since 1964. Withntly, to the present candidates such as jeff flake. The quote which is often misinterpreted, addresses this deep philosophical individualism, which is very much part of the state. What we have seen with the president s rhetoric is it is really not resonating with political moderates. Political moderates are overwhelmingly leaning towards both joe biden and much more so mark kelly. One andtion is a good the answer is the extremism, which i wouldnt even call ideological extremism, but the divisive rhetoric is one thing that has put this state of foreplay. Caller brought up former u. S. Senator john mccain and the fact that his wife has now endorsed joe biden. We have also seen other endorsements of joe biden from other republicans in arizona, like jeff flake. How do those type of established from an clinical party like thes and from a former publican senator theylf, jeff flake are having any effect in arizona . I think so, but i cant speak with actual data. Again we see a good number of moderate republicans have indicated they will vote for biden and kelly. I do think part of this reflects the unique nature of the gop within the state, this very deeply libertarian individualistic brand of conservatism. It is also often marked with a heightened degree of civility as well as bipartisanship. That is something that donald trump very much has an appeal to. These kind of endorsements from the right, particularly from prominent, iconic republican notres, while probably persuading liberals or democrats , do likely resonate with the sort of moderate, more traditional arizona republicans. You thet me show commercial that jeff flake has cut for joe biden that is showing it. [video clip] i have been voting since 1984 when i cast a vote for ronald reagan. I have been a conservative republican my entire life and never have voted for a democrat for president. This year, principal and conscience require me to do that. I am voting for joe biden good when you fill out your ballot, ask yourself who will restore decency to the white house . Will i be project on my children and grandchildren i voted for . Who will i be proud to tell my grandchildren and children i voted for . Leadership, integrity are values we cannot put aside when we cast our vote for president. If you hold on to these values, our country will be better for it, and so will our party. And dont let anyone tell you by casting your vote for joe biden you are somehow not being conservative. This year, the most conservative and you can do is to put country over party. That is what i am doing. I hope you will join me. Voting, lets of talk about how arizona votes. Has been doing vote by mail for nearly 30 years. In 2018, nearly 80 of the vote cast were mailin ballots. Goneas the mail in process in arizona . Considering the rhetoric we have heard from the white house about how mailin ballot team can become according to them rigged. How has the balloting gone in arizona so far . Guest to my understanding, it has gone quite smoothly. Arizona has an infrastructure well capable of dealing with large amounts of mailin ballots. Casthing like 88 of votes in the recent primaries were male and. Something like 80 were male ilin. It is a part of arizona politics. I have confidence it will work relatively smoothly. That is not to say we will necessarily know the results of the election right away, but it does seem that unlike other states, arizona does have a strong infrastructure in place to deal with mailin ballots. Host do we know how many people have voted early in arizona, because i see early voting has started on october 7, and the state does count it votes before election day . Do we know how early voting is going in arizona . Guest i dont know how many of the top of my head how many votes have been mailin. We will see the vast majority of votes being cast by mail. As a personal anecdote, not scientifically speaking, when one drives around to some and dries by one of the sites that processes mailin ballots, there is a lot of people. There are lines, and i do suspect many votes have already been cast. I dont foresee any real problems, at least that is the reporting on this issue. Host as we were sitting and talking about this, i looked it up on the u. S. Elections project. 2 million mailin ballots have been returned in election, andis that there been more than 3 million ballots requested, but of course all these numbers do not include maricopa county. We see that more than 3 Million People have requested mailin ballot and more than 2 million mailin ballots have come back in in arizona. Do arizonans have confidence in this mailin process . Weve heard a lot about mailin ballots from the president this year radar you seen with confidence in this process . Guest i do see quite a bit of competence, again because its not new. Its been happening for quite some time. The magnitude is likely to be different, but it is my understanding and how it has been reported in the state that it is likely to again work relatively well. That is not to say there wont hiccups,ps, but arizona is in a good position to account and be able to process the influx. Host lets go to the phone lines. Lets talk to larry who was calling from circleville, ohio and support President Trump. Good morning. Caller i support donald trump, and i feel the state of arizona up be supporting donald trump because of what hes done to keep Illegal Immigrants from coming across their borders with theof the drugs and all of problems they have with crime and everything that has come state. Into their i feel that trump has done such a great job of trying to attack the state of arizona from all that influx. People need to look at what donald trump has done state of america and what he has done in the three plus years versus what has taken have and the people who run the country before him. I think donald trump has done an excellent job as far as getting things done and supporting america and making it great again. The Foreign Countries and put them in check but china and russia and ukraine. He has done such a great job paired at think the people need to look at everything hes done versus what was done in the eight years ahead of him. Host go ahead and respond, chris. Guest thank you, larry. It is nice to hear when folks talk about a candidate rather than just simply the opposing candidate. We live in this time and what we call this negative partisanship, where it turns out a lot of voters arent motivated by what their own candidate does or advocates, but rather with the opposing candidate represents. What we often see is folks dislike oflots on a the opposing candidate rather than necessarily liking or in ownng or endorsing ones candidate. The country would be much better if voters were more attuned to the platforms of the candidates and what they stand for resident sort of what we have seen. Host one group we havent talked about is senior voters in arizona. Which candidate is doing better among seniors in arizona and why . Guest seniors, and especially white seniors, have certainly supported the president. We have seen those numbers flipping, largely in response to covid. It is not clear that this trend in take place, but by at biden and kelly have clear, decisive edge among seniors in the state. Who lets talk to derek, is calling from randalls town, maryland. Stown, maryland. Caller mick sally has been mcsing to lose like she ally has been waiting to lose like she did before. It dumbfound to be how the cubanamericans have sold themselves out. They forgot about their civil rights and Voting Rights and all beenreat things that have that have happened to them. They can go where they want to go they could go to any restaurant or college they want to go to. All of that was from africanamerican efforts and they stab africanamericans in the back and vote for a party that has a racist history. Myope that arizona and friends, the hispanics, will get it together. We have a good chance to take arizona, and i say that to all my minority friends out there. Get out and vote. The Republican Party has never been for you. You can follow it all the way back to when they were first founded. They called themselves the Democratic Party and they left 1965 at the Voting Rights bill. Dont let them you. Trump called you everything in the book. Trump called you everything in the book, either white trash or scum or whatever. Lets get it together. Thank you very much. Int what is the latino vote arizona and which way is it trending for the president ial election . Guest again, it is trending in the biden and kelly direction. If you take the 2018 race ally and kyrsten sinema, they went for kristin cinema and that was one of the reasons why in this case we saw wheret a blue shift kristin cinema was able to pick up votes in the days after the election. Host we talk about the president ial race, but there is a senate race going on with Martha Mcsally and retired astronaut mark kelly. What does that race look like in arizona right now . Guest this is an interesting senate race in a number of ways. The campaign has been really unique. Has a much larger over the past few months then biden. Part of that is due to kellys moderate nature. He doesnt have a political background. He is the husband of congresswoman gabby gifford, and himselfmuch packaged and even in the debates several weeks ago, we saw him pushing for more of the sort of middleoftheroad policy and distancing himself from the more extreme factions within the Democratic Party. The race has been quite unique. Endorsed andy has embraced the ideology of trump. It is actually sort of interesting, because Martha Mcsally was actually congresswoman here in tucson for two terms and clearly pivoted in this race and has very much followed the same campaign trajectory as the president. Host lets show some of the ads kellyre going on in the mcsally. [video clip] my mom decided to become a police officer. She showed them and became the first female officer in our town. Everyones career path is different and this pandemic has pushed more people off course. We need to think outside the box. We need to help Small Businesses grow. College might not be for everyone, but a good paying job should be. Im mark kelly and i approve this message. [video clip] the choice is mark kelly will raise taxes on working families. I will put more money in your pocket. Kelly will put bureaucrats in front in charge of your health care. I will give you doctors with health plans and protect protect preexisting conditions. I am fighting for stronger borders. Mark kelly is for the liberals, and i am with you. Host much will the president ial race affect the u. S. Senate race . Bit. i think quite a it is a very unique race. I will not exactly answer your question, but just to say it is quite unprecedented for a challenger to wage such a campaignadvocacybased , whereas in incumbent is very much attacking that challenger, who really doesnt have a political record. In the past within empirical political science, we see that those kind of races backfire. , it worksivity works meaning it is effective among challengers attacking incumbents. Out kelly has tried to stay of that and very rarely mentions Martha Mcsally by name. We saw this in the debate and we see this in his advertising. 32nd spots are very much 0second spots, he doesnt engage the opposition very much. Thats not to say he doesnt have any negative spots, he does, in comparison to martha triedy, she has very much note that kelly is again affiliated with the sort of leftist factions within the true. Which likely isnt to an arizonaed viewer, this is pat calling for mesa, arizona. Pat supports joe biden. Good morning. Caller good morning. I appreciate your time. With all due respect, i would like to challenge your contention that arizona voters tend to be independent. Since been in arizona 1978 and came out here to get a masters degree at asu in business and have an undergraduate in economics from a school that east. I have been very, very active in political causes off and on ever since. My experience has been that even though arizonans like to say they are independent, they are not really independent at all. Or instance, john mccain was revered as the maverick and people thought that they were independent by voting for john mccain. I believe john mccain voted with george w. Bush probably about flake the time and jeff trump probably 92 of themime and to call independent and a reflection of arizona, i think is not correct at all. I was a salesman most of my adult life, and i had to go through people and have met literally thousands and thousands of people out here. My experience has been that arizona is incredibly, incredibly polarized state and so many people that call himself s or libertarians are very much hardcore republicans and they really dont take off the blinders much at all to consider an alternate opinion. I think you very much for your time, sir. Q, pat you are absolutely correct. Arizona is not an independent state but is a very republican state. If you look at registration rates in the state, the number of registered republicans far exceed the number of democrats. Republicans im sorry democrats have gained slightly and have a slight edge in the number of new registered voters over the past few months, but registered republicans still by a prettymocrats large margin. It isnt that arizonans are independent, it is that what we see when we look at ideology, whether one identifies as a conservative, moderate, or a number ofhat a large arizonans identify as moderate. That isnt to say there arent the roast and conservatives in the state, but within the two Major Political factions, the Republican Party and the them credit party, 39 of democrats identify as ideologically moderate. About one third of registered republicans identify as ideologically moderate. It isnt that the state is independent or independent borne out in is the data that there are a large number of those who really dont gravitate to the etiological poles, being a conservative or a liberal. Host lets talk about etiology a little bit. Conservatism and liberalism and other ideologies how will they matter in this election . Will they matter in this election . Guest when we talk about ideology, i will avoid the academic lecture. Just thinking about etiology ideology, you have liberalism and conservatism, it actually isnt how most social scientists understand the structure of ideology. It is a very complex thing. When we talk about those who identify as conservatives, that means all sorts of Different Things. Libertarians identify as conservatives. Conservatives or traditionalists identify conservative. When we think about this broad label, it actually does mean Different Things to different people. It applies on the left as well, that is that it is not easy to say one is just a liberal. What does that mean with the and sociallicy policy . Again it can mean. Different things. It is somewhat misleading to say that trump is going to win the conservative vote and biden is going to win the liberal vote, in fact there is a lot of nuance to that. What i suspect is happening in the state is the story of is the sort of independent philosophy that runs deep within the gop. It is something that maybe doesnt jive well with the sort thatumpstyle populism weve seen during the campaign. To an arizona viewer, mark, calling from flagstaff, arizona, and he support go biden. Good morning. He support joe biden. He supports joe biden. With Martha Mcsally, do you think there is the notion that she is sort of a lameduck senator in the fact that she was appointed to an open seat after the death of john mccain and also whether or not tying her political wagon to President Trump has hurt her in that regard because of his disrespect of john mccain. Secondly, do you think there is a groundswell of change in the state of arizona regarding race relations, specifically with the passing of prop 100 and other groundswell of people i believe who support the dreamers getting their rights. I will hang up and your answer. Guest thank you. A couple things. I am not sure that you Martha Mcsally is a lameduck senator. This is a difficult one, because even in the special election, the seat is up in 2022 again. I am not sure. What has happened is that Martha Mcsally at one time was a very centrist politician, centrist republican. In the era of trump, she has clearly pivoted in the direction of trump. I loathe to say she has pivoted to the right, because it is not clear that trump represents philosophical conservativism, in some ways perhaps, but i dont know. What has happened in the state is that the state gop has moved to the right and has become much more conservative than was the case decades ago. In that respect, and also due to the polarizing nature in reference to race and immigration that we see out of the white house, it does seem that the state is moving in a more liberal direction, though then i would see moving in liberal direction doesnt mean this is likely to become a liberal state any time soon rather much more centric. Martha mcsally appeared with President Trump earlier this week in goodyear, arizona at the rally. Here is a little bit of that appearance. [video clip] pres. Trump a woman who is running for the senate, currently a senator respected by everybody. Her opponent will soon terminate your second amendment. Martha mcsally. Martha. [applause] up. Ha, come [applause] quick. , you have one minute. Come on, lets go. Martha mcsally thank you President Trump. Have six days and just a few hours. President trump and the country are counting on us to send him back to the white house for four more years. Helping President Trump Martha Mcsally, or does his campaign hurt Martha Mcsally . Quickly, i can Martha Mcsally. Host why . Guest because of the things we have been discussing, moving away from the traditional republican, libertarian philosophy in the state, a move away from civility and bipartisanship we have seen in the state. Believet is hard to that given the president s divisive immigration rhetoric and my stomach sallys endorsement of that rhetoric and marthaps her mcsallys endorsement of that rhetoric that it helps her. Chandlerry from support joe biden. Good morning. Aller good morning for the republicans backing trump, stand up in arizona at [indiscernible] and she is running for a seat [indiscernible] host we are having a hard time hearing terry. Fully he will call back. Hopefully he will call back. Lets go to harriet. She supports President Trump. Something, and i have heard it a couple of times about really ticks me off these 545 missing immigrant tilden. I dont immigrant children. I dont know if people are aware, but during the obama administration, there were thousands of immigrants lost due to protocol who they didnt find them again. They were put into the hands of the human traffickers. There was the marion, ohio incident and many immigrant children that were sexually hurt because of the lack of protocols of what was going on in the obama administration. I just wanted to straighten that out and i wanted to straighten out the people just dont get it about Illegal Immigrants. Often, and one person i followed many years ago was terry anderson, who explains immigration hurt black americans. I just wanted to put that out there. It is available. There were many things on tv almost 20 years ago on dateline states weree border having issues of hospitals closing, losing jobs, they were depleted, financially depleted because of the inflow of illegals. Host is immigrants in play as a topic in this years elections in arizona . Guest yeah, it is. It is again a partisan divide although we have to focus on the differences and in some sense, it is important to focus on the similarities. What we see is that among democrats and republicans, on a number of immigration related issues, such as a pathway to citizenship for dreamers, there is a majority of support on both sides of the aisle for policies such as this. That isnt to say or diminish the other partisan differences that exists. Republicans are far more supportive of building a border wall than are democrats, but attesting tong testi the ideology of the Republican Party, there is support for a republican wall. Madeleine, is to calling from granite bay, california. Madeleine supports joe biden. Caller good morning. I am not in my residence in granite bay. I am in arizona. I am the daughter of a railroader in the greatgranddaughter of a scotch immigrant to yuma, arizona and a mexican immigrant who was in los still partn it was of mexico. I am a retired hr director of a city and county in california, and i keep up with the need for more people to fill jobs and we need immigrants just as we always have, and i really get thet in arizona with all of umpers. How can people really support trump when we need people of all races to come into this country to fill jobs . We do not have enough people in this country. We have all these immigrants peeking the fruit and vegetables in california and working in the fields here. That is my question. Why cant people be more supportive of immigration . Guest madeleine, i dont know and i entirely agree with you. Is lets go to susan, who from tucson, arizona. From support who is tucson, arizona. Susan support President Trump. Idea that support the we want to have freedom and liberty in this country. My experience in the state of 50 years and with hr behind me like the last woman, is that we want legal immigration. The point. People keep missing the facts on everything and democrats in tucson are notorious for that. Everyone gets hung up on semantics. I dont care how trump talks. I care about results. People that are hispanic and black in this country have had the best time as far as employment they have ever had because of him. People do not want to get the Mainstream Media as the only source, because they dont give the facts. Joe biden for all of the vital he is getting from the Mainstream Press is very crooked. These people who want to back and are not looking into the true facts of everything. The bottom line is we support the mayor in tucson do not support the mayor in tucson. We do not support shutting down. Usinesses randomly he also has a conflict of interest with them. We do not support the mccain per se she has never been anything except an appendage to john mccain who was also an interloper to the state. There are a lot of things people dont know unless you live here 50 years had the bodies are buried everywhere and no one wants to uncover them. This young man is young and doesnt know about this but he can do some research. She was found to have stolen drugs when she was early for she was with john mccain. Go to research and you will find the numbers and research. Host go ahead and respond, chris. Guest a couple of things. What we did in the survey as we actually, this is in response for covid but not overall, but what we see is throughout the republicans and democrats have been largely supportive of local mayors. I take ends with the idea that the mayor here and throughout the state havent been doing their job. Informationlot of in that statement and i would rather not respond. Who isets go to shane calling from texas. Shane supports joe biden. Good morning. Caller good morning. I am currently living in texas. I did my masters at asu at the tempe campus. I consider myself a social fiscal conservative and voted for mccain in 2008 ann romney in 2012. And the bidenin relationship and see the type of thing we are missing and politics is the ability to talk to the other side, come to bipartisan common ground. That type of civil politics is something i think biden remembers and how the relationship with mccain to come to some common ground. That is one of the main reasons why i think biden can help us get to a place of host go ahead, chris. Guest im not sure if that was a question or not, but we see differences among the candidates. Biden has packaged himself as a centrist which has been as betting upsetting to much of the leftleaning faction of the Democratic Party. His politicalms experience, and in the same sense what mark kelly said about his governing style and plan is very much to work across the aisle and work with both ,emocrats, republicans moderates, conservatives and liberals. Thankwe would like to chris for being with us here today and walking as through the important battleground state of arizona. Thank you. Caller thank you. Cspan foran watch Campaign Coverage Election Night starting life at 9 00 p. M. Eastern. Hank you happy halloween. Remember to keep washing your hands and go vote. Have a great saturday. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. Visit ncicap. Org] [captions Copyright National cable satellite corp. 2020] sunday night on q a, a look at mail in ballots and Election Security with the b. I. Policy bipartisan security center. Florida could be called by 10 00 on Election Night because they count so much of their early voting quickly, so we have michigan and wisconsin and pennsylvania, three others that could determine the election, and they have policies that limit how early they can count their ballots. Are less concerned toht now about the threats both vote counting than they have been in the past. That is a good thing, because of the increase of paper records and increased coordination among the states and the federal government. There are reasons to feel good that the security of this election will be better. Sundaytion security night at 8 00 p. M. Eastern on cspan q a. Last monday at the Senate Confirmed judge Amy Coney Barrett to the Supreme Court. Susan collins was the only republican to vote with all democrats and independents against confirmation. For the confirmation, Mitch Mcconnell and Chuck Schumer explained their positions. In the senate vote senator