Indigenous people who backed the movement for socialism won the election by 20 . Look at the amazon. Corporate interests expanding into the amazon at the expense of indigenous nations. This problem has not ended. The doctrine of discovery set in something, the pope talked about a 500 years ago, is something we have not reconciled. That is something we need to understand and redress. Host we would like to thank howie hawkins, green Party President ial candidate for coming on this morning and telling us about his platform in the president ial election. Thank you for your time. Guest thank you. Cspan, live with the news of the day. Coming up sunday morning. House editor David Wasserman will join us to talk about campaign 2020. Ceo ofrthur evans, the the American Psychological association. Washington journal live at 7 a. M. Eastern sunday morning. We will take your calls, facebook comments, texts, and tweets. Sunday night, the University Lu talksos cap lingzi nt 5. 0. E proud boys and the proud boys are part of white power and Militia Movement secondm, advocating for amendment rights, gun ownership, and also, sometimes it involves people who are outright white supremacist. Identifiesyone who 5. 0nto five as nt practices violence. Disavow it,use to seeing it as a legitimate response to russias him. On cspans q and day. Back with jo jordgensen, the libertarian Party President ial candidate. She is here to discuss her 2020 campaign for the white house. Good morning. Guest great to see you. Host remind viewers what the Libertarian Party stands for. You aree major issues running for president on. Libertarian party is on your side, not the side of special interests from bureaucrats in washington. You know best what your family needs. Not the politicians. My main issues are health care, bringing the truth home and the environment. Us your experiences running for president. You are on the show in july. Tell us about the campaign and process has been, from then to now. Guest it has been great. We have been going around the country. We have a tour bus with my name painted too big on the side. Together, we have been to 47 states, between me and my running mate. Everywhere we go we see huge crowds. Usually i have a couple hundred people. We have had as many as 500 people. People are in the party. That is amazing. Smaller places, where we could talk to people, my Deputy Campaign manager would go out and ask people, is anyone here not a member of the party . We can sign you up. We were shocked. Three quarters of each groups we were speaking to were not members of the party. Of the volunteers on the Campaign Staff are from outside the party. A lot of people realize the system is broken and we need change. Campaign,ing at the there are three candidates on the ballot in all 50 states. President trump, joe biden and you. You are not invited to the president ial debates. What was that about . Guest ask them. [laughter] i would suggest they did not want people to know there is a real alternative. I keep hearing people say, two old rich white guys. I would suggest that is the least of our problems. The real problem is they both want to make decisions for us. Neither one has an answer to health care. Neither one will bring the truth home. I would be the only real alternative. Message tois your the Debate Commission . Did they ever say anything about why you were not invited . What is your message to them for future debates . The official answer is i did not reach 15 . In order to reach 15 in polling, you have to be in the polls. Johnson, president ial nominee, was included in the polls early and often. He got as highs 13. 6 . We can get a boost above that. When it came time this time to be in the polls, i think the powers that be decided 13. 6 is dangerously close to 15 . Lets not put her on the polls. My name was not in the polls. To getimpossible for me on the debate stage. Further, if im not in the polls, my name is not getting out. The, people would see, internet, newspapers, here is the polling. Trump, hillary, gary johnson. Wow, there is someone else on. Let me check them out. My name was not reported. We did not get my name out there. That is the problem with the democrats and republicans. It is an old boys club. They only want themselves to be in the game. They are not allowing anybody. That is part of the libertarian message. When people get power, they want more. We have to take power away from the democrats and republicans. Host viewers can join in on the conversation. We will open up the regular lines. 202 7488000 for democrats, 202 7488001 for republicans, 202 7488002 for independents. Special line for libertarian 8003. Members, 202 748 you can text us at 202 748 8003. We are always reading on social media, twitter cspanwj, facebook. Com cspan. Johnson, about gary 2016. Has the Libertarian Party increased . How many members are counted . I havent kept up with that. Where increasing. That was part of my promise campaigning for the nomination. I would increase membership. 75 of the people in our campaign are from outside the party. We are increasing the movement. People who join after the election, what usually happens. We will have a better idea of the numbers in a couple months. Host you are seeing more and more people showing up, saying they are Libertarian PartyMembers Around the nation . Guest people are signing up, absolutely. We were handing out membership forms when i was speaking. It was surprising to see how many people were from outside the party. What are you hearing from voters, the reason they want to be part of the party . What are they telling you . Recently, in california, told me they were recovering democrats. I could not believe the number of people who said that. Theyre not even coming up to me and saying, this or that particular issue. What they are saying is that there is a general lack of control. They dont feel they have control over their lives. They dont understand why they are not getting ahead in the job market, all the student that they have. Somehow, they feel they are not getting anywhere. I can see why. Government has put all these obstacles in the way. Debt,speaking of student a question from social media. Student loans are the worst example of Big Government tyranny in the nation. I expect joe is forgetting the government out of student loans. Will she also canceled the debt . What is her solution to the Big Government student debt crisis . Guest i would not cancel the debt. I am sure you saw the clip of Elizabeth Warren coming off the stage. My heart just broke for the father. Know, Elizabeth Warren wanted to forgive the debt. He came up and said, i worked a second job to send my kids through school. We worked so hard so we would not have to take out a student loan. Meanwhile, my neighbor took out a student loan, bought a new car, went on vacation. Now youre going to give the money . I dont get money . That is right. Where is my money . I did the right thing. I took a second job. Tough luck. Americans see that as unfair. Worked ad the guy who second job he told, tough luck. If they paid off student loans, the guy, his neighbor, would be given money from the government to buy a new car and go on vacation. That is a theme. Obscene. I would make the loans bankruptable. Right now, courts, the way government works, if you are a corporation, no problem. Someone to close bankruptcy. We are the government, you have to pay us. They use predatory practices. Whose brains have ,ot been fully developed signing up for a very adult thing, who are now left in the dust. When people ask me why i am running for president , i said because government is too big, intrusive, nosy. The worst part is it hurts the people they tried to help. If people could make it through college, they could work a job and get through. The government comes along and says, it is challenging, so lets make it easier. They flood the market with money, which any economist would predict prices would go up. That is what happened. Host lets let the viewers join in. Alabama,ll city, independent line. Caller how yall doing this morning . [no audio] hello . Host you are on the air. Talking about decriminalized drugs and stuff. Why would you want to decriminalize something killing millions and millions of people . You are going to talk about treatment. I have lost members of my family. This lady sitting up here, talking about decriminalized. Stuff like that, it just dont even make sense in this country. People need to move to another country and let our country alone. Guest i am sorry to hear about your loss. My heart breaks for you. This is exactly why i want to decriminalize. When is the last time you heard of a Liquor Store Owner going up and down the halls of a high school, trying to push gin on students . When is the last time you heard about a vodka addict breaking into a house . Those are not drug problems. Those are drug prohibition problems. The like al capone in 1920s killing innocent people in chicago, now we have people being shot by gangs, innocent bystanders, in chicago, because of prohibition problems. If you hadgest, family members killed or who died from certain drugs, first probable those drugs were pushed on them and perhaps at a young age because that is what is done for the profit motive. You dont see liquor store liquor oning to push 12yearolds, 15yearolds. It is legal. The opioid crisis. It is absurd. Many people could have pain solved with marijuana, which is not as addictive and is safer than bourbon. I was on a podcast in which the host said, i am with you on marijuana. We can legalize that. We are not going to legalize meth. Meth is horrible. I dont want my nextdoor neighbor to have a meth house. Toxins and it is dangerous exposure to kids. I told them that is why meth should be legal. Whens the last time you heard of someone making vats of gin . I would rather have seagrams or Philip Morris making meth, then have it made out of the house next door to me. It is much safer. You look at distribution of alcohol, it is not pushed directly to kids. That is what i would like to see for the other drugs. Sure of the exact nature of the deaths. Many people who use drugs dont know what they are getting. Something like marijuana, which, again, the only way you will die for marijuana is if a bale falls on your head. We have drug dealers out there lacing it with toxic substances, people who are using heroin. Maybeijuana is legal, they would have never used it. Now fentanyl is killing them. Friedman saidon if cocaine werent illegal, we would never have crack cocaine. Economically, it would not make sense. It does not make sense to come up with such a strong substance. Alcohol prohibition. Beer and wine drinking went down. Liquor sales went up. It was easier to smuggle. That is what they are doing. They are making drugs more concentrated and toxic because that is how they do it in a black market. Drugs would be safer out of a black market. You would not have to be worried about being thrown in jail. We dont have drug pushers with profits trying to get people hooked. Maryland, washington, democratic line. Morning ood hello . Host you are on the air. I am voting for the Democratic Party, joe biden, because i believe he is the man for the right reason and he is a candidate for all seasons. Donald trump should be prosecuted again. He is immoral. Going around violating an Airline Stewardess just doing her job, then going to another country, giving people golden showers. This man is terrible. , he didnot bad enough whenave correct etiquette he met queen elizabeth. I would ask the viewer, what is it you like most about joe biden . The fact he crafted the crime bill in the 1990s, which was extremely racist, and put people away for life for crimes which there were no victim . Or do you like the fact he got us into the iraq war, that he was one of the major instigators, that he is a war hawk, he will have our young kids around the world killed in senseless wars which do not help us at all, which actually make us less safe, like an 9 11 . Do you like the fact he knows better about how to run our lives . I was upset when i saw the town hall in which he said, for police, i want social workers, psychologists, oh by the way, i think we need more of this kind of training. He may or may not be right. Heres the thing. What is the president doing with our local communities . Crime is a local issue. Assault, robbery, whatever. Towns. P to each of our my town has different needs then columbus, ohio, where i am going today, which has different needs then so lake city. Shouldnt my department be able to have its own rules . Shouldnt my mayor, city voters, haveent,s, our own voice . Or maybe you like the department of education, bankrupting kids with predatory loans . I am not sure what laws joe biden has advocated that has done any good or the fact he was for obamacare, which increased, not decreased is that why you think about for joe biden is a good idea . You Want Health Care cost to go up more because they did not go up enough when he was Vice President . One more comment. I grew up in the 1960s. I think about the Democratic Party i grew up with. It was antiwar. Pro individual. For free speech. Now the Democratic Party is nothing like that. They shut down the only antiwar voice out there. Since joe biden is on the coattails of barack obama, i would like to point out, both barack obama and Hillary Clinton thought gay marriage should be illegal as recently as 2012. Is that really the Democratic Party people want to belong to . Choice . Iden your first if he was, you think he is great, you love his crime bill, which put away people of color at a higher rate than whites, go ahead and vote for joe biden. If you feel the Democratic Party leadership shoved him down her throat, how about voting for me in sending a message to the Democratic Party . We dont like you shoving candidates down our throat. Led by at going to be party machine. Host that was one of the questions i wanted to talk about. Who is causing voters supported president trump, 2016 are democratic candidate Hillary Clinton, to support the Libertarian Party in this cycle . What is bringing voters to your side . Guest with trump voters, it is his record. I completely understand why you voted for trump. He came in as an outsider. I will fix the system. Im a businessman. I know how to balance a budget. I will cut spending, cut the deficit, bring the troops home. Sounds like a great message. Have someone who did not 50 years of political favors who did to pay back. Yet, he has increased deficit at a faster rate than obama. Yes, that was before coronavirus. We have the biggest debt ever. He did not bring the troops home. If you like the fact, if the reason you voted for trump was to get bigger government under obama, is you dont think obama increased the deficit fast enough, go ahead and vote for trump. If you want to send a message to trump, which is, we voted for you because you are an outsider and since you are not being the outsider, we will vote for the real outsider. Donaldin the red states, trump will get your electoral anyway. How about at least sending a message to trump, so if he wins again, he gets the message, i guess my voters want me to act like the outsider i said i would be. Virginia, libertarian jeff in virginia, calling on the libertarian line. Good morning. Caller good morning. Jo jorgensen for being our candidate. S thedea of libertarians i government is not our nanny. And i would like to bring this to light. Cspan. Ike i am on i belong to your companion sites, i am going to say, and i have been accused of everything, and voting libertarian is not a wasted vote. We have put out several dellboards and i have ma donations to the party. Even last night, we raised money, because it is not up to the government to take care of us. It is up to personal responsibility. I would like to have her emphasize that point in her message all the time. Thank you for that. I did not hear much of a question, but let me tell you, you say you feel like the loan libertarian, at least lone libertarian, at least in this world. But going around the country, people are joining our movement. So thank you for your appreciation for my candidacy. I have loved almost every minute of it and it has been great, so rewarding talking to voters, saying, we need something new. Host we have a question from a social media follower. I will follow it up, or i will ask it then give you the followup. Guests views on masks . What would you do as president about the coronavirus pandemic sweeping through the country . Guest that is two parts. Let me enter the mask question first. Libertarians, the libertarian way is instead of a onesizefitsall, that we each get to vote with our dollars or feet. This is a great question to explain the difference between our party and the other two parties. The way the other parties work and now we are having an election coming up, so lets say that you want to wear a mask. Your neighbor doesnt. What you have to do is battle it out. You pick your candidate, who says, yes, i am going to require everybody to wear masks. Like joe biden is saying he might do. But say your neighbor does not want to wear a mask, so he will support donald trump, who is saying, no, i do not want to wear a mask. So, you pick your candidate. You put out your yard sign. And on election day, both of you vote, one of you is going to win, the other is going to lose and it will be onesizefitsall. Within the libertarian method, you make your own decisions. If you want to vote to wear a mask that day, go to a store that requires a mask. If that day you do not want to wear a mask, then you can go to a store that does not require a mask. And if you always want to wear a mask, you can go to walmart and other stores, your neighbor can go to those stores that do not wear a mask. That is the best way to get along with each other. People ask a y the country is so polarized, i would say it is because we have to vote on everything for a onesizefitsall. Are we all going to be vegetarian or eat steak . That might sound ridiculous, but think how personal it is that we all have to vote if we are vaccinated or not, or we all have to vote on the same retirement plan, or the same education. Those are individual choices we should make on our own. So we shouldnt have to battle it out with our neighbor to decide what kind of retirement we want, or health care or education we want for our students. As long as decisions go through the government, we will be at opposite ends, we will be in fights because we have to fight our neighbors just to live our lives how we want. But the Libertarian Party says vote with your dollars, your feet, you could to make your own choice. Host what would you do right now if you were president to stop the pandemic, because we are seeing more people getting affected every day . A record was set on friday with a number of infections. So what would be your plan if you became president . Guest to get testing kits out there. That is one of the biggest mistakes donald trump made. Early on, he did not get rid of the obstacles in the cdc that prevented people from getting tested. Testing, youou got would know who could continue going to their jobs and who needed to stay home. South korea got diagnosed, they diagnosed their first case within a day of us, and then they quickly jumped ahead in testing and got ahead of the virus. And they quickly contained it without a lockdown. Meanwhile, we are not being tested. Why is that, the cdc. There were dozens of kits that could have been sold in our country, so we would know if we were positive or not. Thanks to the regulations, only two of them were made available. Th dr. Nald trump said, wi fauci, if you do not have symptoms, you do not get tested. They new at the time that some people did not have symptoms at all. Kitshere are still test that cannot be sold here. There are still obstacles. And do not know what the latest number is, but recently there were still places where you need a doctors note to get tested. We should have them sold in drugstores so we can have massive testing and people can find out if they are positive, so we can start containing this. Aga once again, you know in i am running for office, because the government hurts the people they are trying to help. Safe becauseless they kept us from being tested. And there are still regulations that are keeping us from being tested because now we have to go to the doctor. We talk about health care costs. Wouldnt it be great to just purchase a test and not go through a doctor . Host lets talk to sylvia from virginia on the republican line. Good morning. Caller i was going to ask jo, what would she do about the sol testing in the schools . I have seen children and teachers wringing their hands, because during the time they have to be tested, the standard of learning test, it means so much further funds at the school, so what would you do about getting rid of them . Which i think they should be. Thank you. Guest education is a local issue. It should be decided among the parents, teachers and students. That the needs of the children in appalachia are different from those in new york city, much different from the needs of the kids in new mexico. So, i would get the federal government out of education. And i would right now, we have money that schools, that taxpayers are paying that go to the federal government, then we have a onesizefitsall from the government. So localnd that, schools got to keep their money, let them make the decisions. The average person should have little contact with the federal government. The federal government should be in charge of the military, courts, and Everything Else we should really be making our decisions locally on, so our voices can have an impact. Aboutgain, we heard this many things, why do we have to have all 300 something Million People all agree on one thing . Why cant we make our own decisions on what is best for our children . Host here is a question from another social media follower. What is yournow, plan for the National Debt . What about Social Security . Guest wow, two big questions. The National Debt, the quick answer to begin with, if you are digging yourself into a hole, the first thing you do is stop digging, which unfortunately donald trump did not do. He continued to dig. So the first thing we do is stop digging and stop digging into that. Then we need to start paying it off. I would look at places the cut. And let me start off, because i do not want to jump into this one statement, but let me say that i want to turn america into one giant switzerland. We have to protect our shores. Inever, we do not need to be the 150 countries we are in around the world. More not need to spend than the next seven countries combined, which is what we spend right now. We could cut about 700 billion still bebudget and tied to the Largest Military budget on the face of this earth. I think that is a good start. We keep hearing how great france is that they get five week vacations. If we been saying, maybe were not paying for their military and other militaries, maybe we could have five weeks off, too. Why should people in alabama be paying for frances military . If it was just a question of money, that would be bad enough, but it is worse because it is making us less safe, not more safe, as we saw with 9 11. We need to bring troops home to defend our country. That would be a big cut, to start paying back. I would get rid of the department of education. Education should be local. Maybe if the dollars stayed in the local communities, instead of going to the government, with the government turning around and spending money that is not doing any good at all, may be teachers would not have to purchase their own boxes of kleenex and koreans. Number three crayons. Number three would be to end foreign aid from the government. Americans are generous and if they want to help people overseas, they are free to do so, but the u. S. Government should not be sending money over. When the government does it, it is inefficient. The definition of a foreign aid is taking money from poor taxpayers and giving it to rich dictators. We have seen it happen, the money does not go where it belongs. Personally, we saw George Clooney over in sudan, talking about all of the. Yeah, may be the reference is too long ago, anyway, we saw him over there trying to help people in africa. I would trust George Clooney to spend my money better than the federal government. So we need to start cutting at all levels, so we can get down to five. Host what about what you would do with Social Security . Not we, that is know it is a broken system. Two groups of people, its for people who are retired, and i say every year depending on are we getting the costofliving increased . They have that taken out of their paycheck before they even get their paychecks. That money get did not go into a law box, it box, it wentlock into the government on things that they should not be spending money on anyway. I would tell those things, where the money went, so those things and give the seniors a lump sum, so now they are in control of their retirement dollars. And everybody else, you can have an immediate opt out. People in their 20s and 30s, they know they will not see a dime of their Social Security money. So you can opt out, to look for something that is safe. Why do we all need to vote on one retirement system . Host lets go to daniel, calling from san antonio, texas on the independent line. Good morning. Caller good morning. Thented to know, how do limited government values of the Libertarian Party coexist with the modern kenzie and approach . Kenzien approach . What role would you take, as the government, in the recession . Iest again, i am not even am not out here talking about which system is better. That is what dictators do, that is what we see right now with our current leadership do we have this model or this model or this model . I suggest people elected to office cannot do anything as well as people making their own decisions. Something i learned that really stuck with me, that i wish schools would teach now, is the reason the soviet union fell is is that Central Planning does not work. That in the soviet union, they had to figure out, where does this steel go, should it go to the Car Manufacturers or refrigerator manufacturers . They would be figuring out, where does it need to go. But in the u. S. , the price system tells us where it needs to go. Had a Car Manufacturers waiting list of people waiting to buy cars, then they were willing to pay more for the steel, so that is where it went. If, instead, no waiting line for the cars, but people needing refrigerators at a line, than the people making refrigerators would pay more for the stell, so that is where steel, so that is where it would go. So using prices as a guide, then we know the resources are going where they need to go. So what i would do i believe that the role of government is to support the military. And when it comes to Everything Else, people should make their own decisions. That is what i have been telling voters, you know better than any washington person in how to spend your money. I am telling people they have the right to make their own toisions and we do not have have people in washington coming up with any kind of system to managed the government. First of all, i do not trust donald trump or biden to make wher thecisions in money is going to goe. And we saw with the soviet union, it does not work. Host we talked about ranked choice of voting and we know that maine will do range choice election. The upcoming one social media follower wants to know, are you in favor of ranked choice of voting, and if so what would your ballot look like as you rank the candidates . I am a huge fan of ranked choice of voting. I think americans deserve that, because right now when you ask people who you are voting for, it is usually a vote out of fear or against the other guy. That is such a shame that as americans we have to pick our president out of fear. That is what i hear from people. I will vote for you, but my friend will not vote for you because he is afraid of donald trump getting into office, or that joe biden will get into office. So, absolutely we should have range Choice Voting, so people can rank Choice Voting so people can vote for they want for what they want, instead of against what they dont want. Where i live in South Carolina we have straight ticket voting. Usually only a third of the offices have a libertarian running anyway. I still vote straight ticket libertarian. Is 12er words, if there races, my vote is only cast for three or four of them. It does not matter if a democrat or republican wins for me, because it is a different mindset. They both feel like they should be the ones making the decisions, spending our money. And both of them, we have donald trump giving us a bigger deficit than barack obama did. It does not matter who is in office. One, you have people who think they should be running the country instead of allowing the people to make the decisions and allowing people to be running their own lives. Host speaking of the straight ticket ballot, you are not the only libertarian running in this election. There are others down ballot across the country. Are there races that libertarians are not only competitive, but they are expected to win . And how many local offices are held by the Libertarian Party right now . Guest as far as how many are in office, that is probably a better question for our national chair, who keeps tabs on that. We have been focused on our campaign. But i could tell you that we have our highestranking libertarian is a libertarian congressman. Seatse several important locally. The two races i have been hearing the most about, and that i have looked at, is parrying in arkansas, who is running against kotten. Indiana,ater in running against both the democrat and republican. But the people there are getting fed up with a one size fits all system, especially the masks, and he is the one saying you should be able to make your own choice. If you want to be safe, you can make the choice to only go to those places that require a mask. If you prefer not to wear a mask, this is a free country and you should have the option. Host lets go back to the phones and talk with janet from winter park, florida, on the democratic line. Good morning. Caller hi, jo. I was born and raised a democrat, but in 1989i joined the Libertarian Party, because i believed in the individual liberty and personal responsibility. I even ran for office three times. Once i could not get on the ballot, but the other two times i was able to run. And this was in the 1990s. Libertarians here were running against republicans. In my race, i got 28 of the vote and over 10,000 votes against the republican. Unfortunately, what happened was the Republican Party cannibalized the Libertarian Party in the 1990s. We forgetting to successful and are Party Officers joined the republicans. The, uh, they even told me if i joined the republicans they could get me elected. Those libertarians disappeared and you never heard from them again. Unfortunately, so many libertarians joined with the republicans, that it changed the libertarians. They made an alliance with the republicans and christian coalition, and throughout to 2000, theyhe the were like republican light. That is what they continue to be here in central florida. In 2008, i went back to being a democrat and i voted for barack obama and i have voted democrat ever since, because i saw that the policies pushed by the libertarians, and by the republicans, caused us so much social and economic problems under george bush, that i washed my hands of both republicans and libertarians completely. Host go ahead and respond. Guest yes, ok. Would never vote for george bush. Most people who are truly libertarian would never vote for george bush. And for personal responsibility, i am not sure how barack obama did speak to you. Basically, he said, you do not need to be responsible at all. Givingway, i will not be you the freedom to purchase your own health care. In 2012, he thought gay marriage it should be illegal. Did you really think gay marriage should be illegal in 2012 . I would say there are more similarities between the democrats and republicans, both in and in what they believe in personal freedom. Joe biden ly has grudgingly come along and said, kay, maybe we can legalize to juana but i dont want talk about it too much. Freedom at all. Host back to the phones felicia in birmingham, alabama on the republican line. Caller if you become president , what would you do about the stimulus check . I cellusing somebody elses phone and i cannot even afford to pay my phone. Lied on me, you really joe biden and you are campaigning for donald trump, because i do not even think you are campaigning for yourself. Im confused by the last statement because i think i said three times that donald trump has increased the deficit even more than barack obama. I thought it was being equal in showing the problems. As i said before, both democrats and republicans want to make decisions for us. They are onesizefitsall. We put somebody in office for four years. Should we all be vegetarian or should we all ate steak eat steak . As far as the stimulus check, i am so sorry you are in the position you are in. And i would suggest you are in that position because of Donald Trumps policies, because he said you will not get tested, he would not allow testing kits into the country. Let me mention, i do not think joe biden would have been any better. They both would have said, nope, need, let the fda have their powers. Thats a different discussion, but under my system, we could get back to our jobs. We would not be all under house arrest. By the way, i would have used the 14th amendment to say that you cannot keep people locked up. That they need to earn a living. And that the shutdown is causing more problems than it is helping. If you allow people to keep their money and you let it stay in the hands of individuals and private businesses, then you asl see twice as many jobs that money went to the government. Said, the government that of course, big corporations and bigbox chains, you can stay open, because of course, they give campaign contributions. But the little stores, you have to shut down. Once again, Big Companies are treated as special by congress. But we have to get power to the little guy. We need to get these politicians out of office, so the little mom and pop stores can stay open and we can all keep our jobs. Host dexter from kentucky on the republican line. Good morning. Caller good morning. Host go ahead. Caller yes. Well, it seems like the news stations will never let us have cause they are too invested in their own candidate. So, if you take away from their candidate, they are so invested in that candidate that they will never get traction. Normally, there is so much money so, joe biden is totally corrupt. They will not even investigate his corruption. And it is all through congress. They probably do not want to push this, because they are doing the same thing. We will never really get out of this mode and get another party mode and get another party because everybody is so dedicated to their own candidate. How can we get a different news cycle . Guest that is a great question. The media is about 96 democrats, depending on which hole you look at. So we are trying to get our message out through social media. And we are getting somewhere. Keep in mind, you do not need to elected to make change. Of course, i am running to be elected. But the early 1900s, the socialist platform, by the end of the century all of those ideas had been adopted into the countrys system, even though a single socialist was not elected as president or congress. We can make change. We have been the socalled spoiler in major elections. So when we come in, people are talking about you know, we change the conversation. And in fact, looking at the democrats and the republicans, and i do not want to go into too much detail, but it looks like they have been watching our campaign. We have seen evidence of that, not just what we have seen in the media. Donald trump has been talking about bringing the troops home. And for those people who say, you will be a spoiler and keep donald trump from being elected. If he had cut the deficit and the debt, like he said. If he had been the businessman he said he was and had balanced the budget, he would win by a landslide. But they are not doing what they said they would do. That is why i said, if you are in a red state, vote for me and to send donald trump a message. If you are in a blue state, send joe biden a message. I an swing state, you have the most power. If you cause one or the other candidate to not be elected, they will start listening to you. And that is what we need to do, tell republicans, start acting like republicans. And democrats, stop acting like democrats. Start acting like democrats. They do not know what their roots are. And whatever the other guy says, where the opposite. When donald trump said, we need to pull out of iraq, the Democratic Party, which is supposed to be antiwar, they said, we cannot leave, we need to stay in iraq. So, they will do basically whatever trump does not want to do. So the Democratic Party needs to go back to being antiwar. The Republican Party needs to go back to cut spending. Host final words before we end the show for any potential voters . Troy first of all guest first of all, you can go to my website. People,ave been telling i am not asking you to have to vote for me because you are voting for. Vote for yourself. A vote for me is a vote for yourself because i know you can make decisions better than any special interest in washington. You know what your family needs more than any bureaucrat in washington. And i think you know what is best for you, so vote for yourself. Host we would like to thank jo jorgensen for being with us this morning. [captions Copyright National cable Satellite Corp 2020. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. Visit ncicap. Org] [captions Copyright National cable Satellite Corp 2020] discussing the groups latest america report. Watch cspans washington journal live at 7 00 eastern and be sure and oin in the discussion next, a look into how changing demographics will impact future elections. 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