America for making these conversations possible and thank you for joining us on these many platforms. You can find us on twitter. Our first guest is senator tim kaine of the commonwealth of virginia, one of only 30 people who has served as mayor, governor, and United States senator. And how is this for a fun fact . Asave been his constituent mayor, governor, and now as my senator. Senator kaine, welcome to axios. Sen. Kaine mike, its great to be back. We talked about how election day is now election month, i saw some pictures of you earlier in the county, my old stomping grounds outside of richmond voting and you are out there with congresswoman abigail stan , the numbers for early votingf. I think virginia might be leading the nation starting in person voting on the 18th of september, male were returned by the 18th of september, people understand that stakes are so high the selection i think you will see a dramatic increase in turnout over four years. And second because people are worried about the pandemic and coronavirus, they like having more options about how to vote and they feel like early voting or voting by mail may give them the ability to vote to keep them safe or, high stake in Health Concern has driven people to want to spread their boat out in virginia of the 45 day window and boat at the same time. Is it clear that the massive waves surge of early mailing voting benefits joe biden in senator harris or is that a story yet to be written. You cannot be 100 sure, heres what we think is beneficial, when people vote early the party gets information about whose ballot has been returned, obviously they dont get information about how the ballots had been cast but we know whos have been returned, what parties do in virginia and elsewhere, we give everybody a score to how likely they are to be democrat or republican voter, when we see boats coming back we can see what percentage of the votes are likely going to be for joe and kamala law or President Trump and mike pence. What weve seen in virginia and elsewhere, is a dramatic uptick in people who we would think would be on the democratic side and thats a suggestion of energy, we always want the voting early to give us an indication of energy and that is usually a pretty solid bit of evidence to predict the outcome. You and i remember when virginia was a swing state, there was a brief window when it was going to be the new ohio, virginia was safe. We remember more of a time when it was in a competitive state at all, was so red, in 2012 and then maybe thought to be in 2016 but you are right, by now 2020 is seems, i will say this, i dont think were a rock solid blue states, where light blue state trending blue, i think the republicans to nominate a president ial candidate that would put virginia into play is just Virginia Republicans are not trump republicans, they dont like the loud bullying bluster, that is not virginia style, donald trump would not be a rub publican and never put virginia and play, the democrats cannot think we have to lock on the state right now, i dont think were relatively close to the midpoint. What kind of a republican could throw virginia into sen. Kaine i will give you an example from 2016. When i was watching the republicans on stage, i saw a marco rubio or a jeb bush could have potentially done well in virginia, but that was an election where there were too many people swimming in that lane of the pool and they ended up taking each others boats. Marco rubio actually did pretty well on Election Night in the primary in virginia, but remember, john kasich was still in the race. If kasich had dropped out, rubio could have one the primary. That kind of republican can play strong, it is just that in virginia and nationally that doesnt seem to be the kind of person that gets a republican nomination anymore. Mr. Allen senator kaine you got to enjoy the Vice President ial debate a little more this time around. On thears ago you are stage as the ticketmates with secretary hillary clinton. We have a little clip to remind you of this weeks debate. Senator harris mr. Vice president , im speaking. Ok . In 1864. [laughter] youallen sounds like enjoyed that moment as much as i did. That was my favorite moment of the debate. I wrote about in my first dispatch. Im speaking, im speaking, ok . You know senator harris very well as a colleague and a friend. Tell us what that moment told us about her. Sen. Kaine the reason she said it was it twice was like why robert frost says it twice in the poem miles to go before i sleep. It, itond time she says is almost history. Harris, an africanamerican woman, i, Kamala Harris, child of immigrants, this is my turn now. You know what . That is a great thing for america. That in this election we have a Kamala Harris on the ticket. Thats why i think she said it two different ways that very proud smile on her face. I looked that moment too. Kaine, yousenator have talked to her about the role. What advice did you give . You treated it as the greatest road trip ever. Sen. Kaine i was never in a rock band, going to hundreds of cities in 105 days is the closest i will get. I met so many wonderful people. That part of it is amazing. The vice the advice i have given to, is more advice about the job itself. Everything i know about the job i learned from joe biden. I worked closely with joe when he was Vice President. As a senator in the second term. I learned three powerful things. Number one, a great Vice President will speak truth to power. Give the most candid advice. Saw Kamala Harris do that on stage. Number two, you do that privately, you dont do that publicly. Joe biden never let there be public disagreement between he and barack obama, even though there was private disagreement. The third thing that i learn from joe that was interesting and joe told us this once. He said, look, when i disagree with the president , will never see it publicly. But i ask the public the president to respect me. Make me the salesperson for something i have disagreed with you. If you decide to go another direction, have somebody else be the salesperson, but i cannot be effective in selling a policy if my heart is not in it. , i think thosees things make the relationship work and that is why joe was such a great vp and i think Kamala Harris will be a great partner to a president by then. Mr. Allen as a survivor of 2016, i know you dont lead to any conclusions, there are certainly signs out there of a blue wave, certainly signs that democrats could take back the senate, could have the white house, senate, and house. If we do have a unified government, if we have an alldemocratic government, what can you imagine getting done . People used to washington networking, with all democrats, washington would suddenly work, right . , we kaine you know, mike would wanted to. We would want to show people that they can count on their institutions to produce. The first thing we are going to have to do President Trump this week called up all of the discussions about a covid bill. People are still hurting. The economy, families, or Health Care Sector needs more work. If we havent gotten the bill by inauguration day, we need to do that advocate to rescue the economy. As much as joe biden had to work with president obama to do the same thing in 2009. Secondly, i think people will want to see the things democrat have talked about for years immigration reform, background checks on guns, raising the minimum wage, lgbt equality they will want to see the things we have talked about always said, we dont have the votes to do it. I think they will want to see us move to address these issues. I also want to see the administration do some things administratively they can do. Parisample, rejoining the climate record so we can go arm in arm with other nations to rescue the climate of our planet. Mr. Allen senator, we are getting the hook here. A quick penultimate question. Is have said you think it reckless for republicans to plunge ahead with the Supreme Court confirmation of amy coney vote. T before people it certainly looks like it is headed that way. You are one of the democrats who voted to confirm her for the Circuit Court of appeals. What could change your vote . Vote none im going to under any circumstances before election day, because the republicans promised us and the American Public that we should let the people decide he was the president and who is the senates before we fill a vacancy. Im going to hold them to their word and im going to oppose anyone. Saying we get past the election and judge barrett as the nominee, at that point im going to look at her opinions. She had no record when i voted for her, but she did have a solid record as an academic. Now she has a record as a judge. For me the key issue would be the opinion she has written as an appellate judge and what Comfort Level i have having read that that she would follow precedent rather than try to overturn precedent to accomplish political goals. Mr. Allen senator, who would have thought that in this year of years, a huge political issue football . 0 you had a hearing on college sports. Have you learned . Tell us Something Interesting from the hearing. Sen. Kaine what i learned was, i was saddened to learned i guess i should have known this at age 62 i was saddened to learn how much of these decisions are driven by tv money rather than the health of these youngsters. Remember, any young football player, you could give them an in year of eligibility. The money is so powerful that i frankly worry that that is the overriding factor. We know we are risking young peoples health. Sadly, this year we are risking it to concussions and to a virus. It seems to me it made me sad. Mr. Allen we cannot and on a downer. Im going to ask you, what is a new tradition that you have, and work out i knew diet . What have you done to make good use of your shutdown . Sen. Kaine my wife and i, any day we are together, we do a different hike and try not to repeat. We have gone through every park, cemetery, Civil War Battlefield that we can find. The other thing i did this summer was, i rode my bicycle from North Carolina to the northern tip of virginia. 330 miles, with the group of friends. We still had it in us. Mr. Allen love it. Couldnt be a better way to end. Senator kaine, look forward to seeing you on a trail, maybe more than one kind. Thank you for joining axios. Sen. Kaine thanks so much. Take care. Mr. Allen thank you to bank of america for making these conversations possible. Now we are going to see a video from the bank of america. The racial and economic disparities that have long existed have only been widened. Y coronavirus and amplified people around the world are coming together with greater urgency to demand action. At bank of america we know we all have a role to play to overcome the very real consequences of systemic racism and inequity. This includes individuals, and thents, nonprofits, private sector. Racial equality and Economic Opportunity are deeply connected. Thats why bank of america has committed 1 billion over four years to address affordable housing, access to health care, employment, and job skills. We can do more, and we need to do more now to further equality and Economic Opportunity for all. Thank you to the bank of america for making these conversations possible. Our next guest is senator josh hawley of missouri. Grew up in rural missouri, ran away to stanford, yale, came back, was Missouri Attorney general. Now is the youngest member of the United States senate. Already made a name for himself, senator hawley, welcome to axios. Sen. Hawley thank you for having me. Mr. Allen you on the judiciary committee, he will be at the center of the fight for the confirmation of judge amy coney barrett, but you have a much more personal view of the court than everyone else that is going to be there. You were a law clerk to chief justice roberts. Sen. Hawley i did work in the building. It was one of my first jobs out of law school. I met my wife doing that. It was a good year for me. We got married after our year of working together on the court. I have gotten to see that court up close and personal. I have gotten to liquid to litigate. I am a member of the bar, so it is a place i know relatively well. Mr. Allen how was the chief justice a boss . Sen. Hawley very good boss. He runs his chambers with great efficiency. One of his jobs is to administer the federal judiciary as a whole, which he does very, very efficiently. He is a terrific, terrific boss to work for. Mr. Allen senator, giving our viewers a little preview of the confirmation hearings, i wonder whether or not democrats make any attacks based on judge barrett and that is an area where you plan to be tough. Ellis your stance on that. Sen. Hawley they already have. At three years ago at her first set of confirmation hearings. Hertor durbin interrogated commitments, ask her if she was an orthodox catholic. Judge barrett would be a catholic judge as opposed to, i dont know what. You had a slower on her religious beliefs. Unfortunately we have seen up pattern from democrats with other judges where they have interrogated them, often times it is catholic. But various believers of all stripes, interrogating them about their relationship to religious groups. This is really, this comes down to an attempt to oppose a religious test. Article six of the constitution explicitly says cannot be applied in this country. It is a form of religious bigotry. In the class have been tracking trafficking in this bigotry for too long. It is time for every one of the democrats on the committee to denounce it and pledge they will abide by the constitution and not seek to to a religious test. Silence is not enough. After years of bigotry, it is not a good silence. T of them are doing worst worse than that. Silence is not enough. Senator harris in particular, sent she has been an offender here, she has trafficked in these attacks. She needs to say she was wrong to go after nominees on the basis of their faith. She needs to say she was wrong andropose a religious test, she and her colleagues need to pledge they will not do it. I want to hear that out of their mouths. You were going to try to head off at the pass, as my grandma would say . What are you going to do to insist Democratic Senators are renouncing or what you going to do to pressure them . Sen. Hawley call them out. I have already sent a letter to senator schumer. I called on democrats to announce these attacks, which they have ignored. They are continuing to traffic in these attacks. We are seeing story after story, the democrats are pushing about amy barretts religious faith, about her catholic way of life, about how she and her husband on and on and on. It is ridiculous. We have senator hirono just last week said amy barretts faith and commitment to her faith gave her serious paws about how she would rule on the bench. It is ongoing and so im going to call it out at every single opportunity, and im going to call on democrats to renounce it. They should be able to say they will abide by the constitution. They should say that article six, says no religious test for judges, that ought to be good enough for them. It should not be hard to say. Again, silence is not enough. They have already traffic in these stereotypes and this bigotry. They have pushed it for years, so now it is not enough to go silent and say, maybe we will Say Something else. I need to say they were wrong and pledge to abide by the constitution. Mr. Allen senator, i can see youre going to keep those hearings lively. He mentioned senator harris, who will be in the spotlight. The spotlight this week in the president ial buys president ial debate. I will replay a quick clip. Vice president pence, have you reached an agreement with President Trump about safeguards or procedures when it comes to the issue of president ial disability . If not, do you think you should . You. San, thank although, i would like to go back. I think we need to move on. I would like to go back. The reality is, we are going to have a vaccine, senator, in record time. In less than a year. Senator, you know Vice President pence. What did you learn about Vice President pence from that debate, what quick what can we expect to see from him in these final three or so weeks . Sen. Hawley i think you learned that he is tough. I have known them to be, which is polite, in fact unfailingly gracious. He was kind to senator harris, treated her as the collie she is. Colleague she has. But he was tough. I thought he drove home the point very well, which is that joe biden has a record we should look at. It is a record of selling out American Workers to china. It is a record of selling out American Workers to these multinational corporations. He is a liberal globalist, and that is what he will do as president. That should be the central issue of this campaign. About the Vice President prosecuted the case very well. President ht the vice prosecuted that case very well. When you came here he took up that issue. You have talked over the years about how you thought the federal government has been much too timid with tech companies. There seems to be more action now. How do you feel about the current stance of the government versus big attack . Big tech . Sen. Hawley i think things are starting to catch up. D. C. Has been behind where voters have been on this. Tech has bought itself enormous influence on capitol hill. They have spent hundreds of millions of dollars over years to buy influence with lobbyists, buy them with think tanks, with academics, congressional staff. It has been effective. This is one of the reasons have not seen any meaningful tech legislation come out of congress. Certainly not in my 21 months , although we are beginning to see a seachange as voters make it clear they are not ok with these giant monopolies controlling all this information, controlling the flow of news, controlling what we can and cannot say to each other. I think you see the public saying this is enough, and politicians are starting to react. Theres a lot of work that congress should do. I hope the Justice Department will bring an antitrust suit against google this month. I think that is very possible and i am very, very hopeful that will occur. I think that is overdue and i hope the state attorney general will also bring an antitrust suit. Mr. Allen when people think about the posttrump public and party, whether that is in a few months or four years, you are at the peoples conversations. Tell us what you mean. Lesson, working folks are the backbone of this country. I mean that as more than a talking point. It is a point of history. In thethe First Republic history of the world that was built on the premise that the ordinary, everyday common man as the phrase used to be were absolutely bit citizens, could run this country, and should. Our whole history was based around that. By the way, that is a history that steadily expanded who counted in that category. That has been a major fight, a proud one or we have seen that grow. I come back to the common man and woman, the workingmen that woman. They have been the backbone of this country, and what we have seen for decades is, we have seen their Economic Standing he wrote. We have seen their cultural standing he wrote. We need to ask ourselves what the future of this country is going to be if all of the power and money and the political influence is pooled at in the the top, concentrated in the hands of a few folks who are educated, wellconnected, live mostly on the coast. Is that the kind of country we want to have . Will our democracy survive . I think the answer is that it wont. We have got to be about reempowering what i call the american metal. I dont just mean the geographic metal, the middle of our society, the people on whom our society really rests. Economicconomic and programs geared around that. We need to strengthen their cultural influence as well, and there their political power. Mr. Allen has been far too little to celebrate in 2020, that you are someone who has good news this year. And you have sons, a little announcement to make. Sen. Hawley im going to be the father of a daughter in just a few weeks. My wife and i are blessed to be welcoming our third child, our baby girl. We dont have a name for her yet, and our family is getting anxious about that. Weve got a little bit of time left. We are so excited, mike. My boys are seven and five. Im really excited to go through this wonderful time with them. They will be old enough now to appreciate its and i think its going to be a terrific adventure. Its going to be a tremendous blessing to our family. Year,as been a heck of a at for the hawley it has been heck of a good year. Mr. Allen thank you for joining axios. Sen. Hawley thank you for having me. Mr. Allen we are going to be back with the conversation with. Iala boodhoo first, thank you to the bank of america for making these conversations possible. Here is a quick video from the bank of america. Ms. Boodhoo i am niala boodhoo. Our next guest is a representative congressman katie porter. Thank you for being here, representative. Rep. Porter im delighted to talk with you. Ms. Boodhoo i wonder if we can start with the debate on wednesday night. It made me sad that i think our expectations around this were so low, just because of what had happened previously. We were happy this did not evolve into insults and interruptions. I know originally you said you never thought he would be someone who would run for office. And wonder how much you think politics and discourse in 2020 has discouraged people from wanting to run for office . Are still seeing a lot of people step up and run. I think people are feeling like it is time to fix this. There is a lot of reformminded people. We are seeing this and people like me, who do not take corporate back money. We are seeing more local candidates, more women running, more diverse candidates running. I dont think people are feeling discouraged, but i think there is always a segment of the they walk away from the discourse. One of the things we saw in this weeks debate is that people this ability of the debate was an improvement. I think it left a lot of desire as well. Ms. Boodhoo there were a lot of questions that were not answered. I think the majority of susan pages questions are not answered. I know you are someone who likes to have questions answered. One of the questions was about one what one of the main roles of the Vice President is. Harris, let me ask you the same question. Conversation or reached an agreement with Vice President biden about safeguards or procedures when it comes to the issue of president ial disability. If not and if you win the election do you think you should . You have two minutes, uninterrupted. The day i got the call from joe biden, it was actually a zoom call. Asking me to serve with him on this ticket was probably one of the most memorable days of my life. Rep. Porter ms. Boodhoo we ended there because she did not asked her answer the question. As a member of the Democratic Party and a citizen, is this something you want to know . What is the plan . Rep. Porter this is obviously something that is always of importance to the president. I think the fact that we have two candidates that are older is heightening this. There is a Succession Plan in the constitution. The Vice President takes over. Aging, the issues around we have dealt with this before with president reagan, for example. I think it is something we need to work on, but im not sure it is something of Vice President ial candidate can simply decide for themselves. I think this is something that may require some real democratic debate in terms of congress or other bodies thinking through whether we want to amend the constitution, how we might want to make adjustments. I think every Vice President ial candidate needs to say that they will protect and defend the constitution, including stepping up and speaking out if the president is unable to lead for any reason. And i think there could be strong statements on both sides about that, but the exact nature of highly of how you design and built that is a decision that belongs to people through their broadlyelected congress or through the constitutional process and not through the candidate. Ms. Boodhoo are you concerned about that with President Trump . Now that he has been diagnosed with coronavirus and is undergoing medical treatment . Rep. Porter the lack of transparency is what is concerning. We have other president s who have fallen ill, who have dealt with chronic diseases like polio. Its different is i think people dont feel like they know accurately what the president s condition is. So it is not so much that i think every time a person a president gets sick or injured or is hospitalized that we need to activate all of the Succession Plans, we do need to have confidence that the information is correct so that we know if those plans are needed or not and i think thats where people are concerned. Ms. Boodhoo i did an instagram chat with some of our audience this week and it was ask anything. So many of the questions were about the Electoral College. You concerned we have become a nation where president ial candidates focus so much on swing states or certain communities solely because of the Electoral College . The Electoral College obviously is a unique feature of american democracy and i think it is one that comes out of our history. Having a handful of states, emphasizing the ability of ,tates to have a lot of power that has evolved. I think the Electoral College two problems that i see there. One is how it shapes the president ial election. I will point out that some places that are swing states today are not places that were swing states 20 or 30 years ago. California in that era produced ronald reagan, was a republican leaning state just a generation ago. We do see different places become swing states and get attention. The other attention is on the senate. I think we are having an important conversation about whether having two senators per state, some of whom represent many fewer people than, for instance, i represent, is not the correct system. I think both of those are debates we need to be having, but i think first and foremost need to be happening after we have elected a new president. , we can hopefully have a civil, thoughtful, meaningful discussion about how to reform our government, if we decide that is what we need. But we should not be doing it in a rash way and in reaction to President Trumps shortcomings , particularly with regard to this pandemic, with regard to t againstn these kinds of things, they are just not being exercised. Ms. Boodhoo representative porter, speaking of things that were not talking about that much this election cycle, im thinking about Climate Change and particularly young voters. I know this is an issue that is important to you. When you are thinking about the Bidenharris Administration, i wonder what part of that platform regarding green jobs are you interested in . Rep. Porter one of the things im excited about is the way they have read it together traditional Building Trades, the labor community, together with moving forward on the environment. That is really important. Every time we have industry transformation there is an effort to push down wages. The fact that they are emphasizing that these are going to be highpaying, welltrained, steady jobs i can support a family is important. The other thing about the pandemic and the Bidenharris Administration is they have demonstrated why having leaders who believe in science matters. Weve had problems with honoring signs, with putting research first, with respecting their opinions. I think that is a powerful reminder, a powerful caution for people that we dont want to use that same approach when it comes to Climate Change. The fact that you hear joe biden and Kamala Harris consistently talking about science, consistently talking about research, consistently talking about global partnerships combat Climate Change, i think, also echoes in peoples minds as a contrast to what we see from the Trump Administration with regard to covid. Ms. Boodhoo i did want to ask you, there are so many comments about how senator harris was being was handling being interrupted. I know this is something her campaign worked on. And wonder how much you think about how your communication is received in because you are a woman . Rep. Porter i think most women, many younger people, many people of color have had this experience of being interrupted. Tells youi think it something about mike pences ability to relate to the diverse population of this country and to the diverse kinds of leaders that have been elected. Leaders elected in this country i thought senator harris did remainingl job of unruffled, being true to who she was. Gettingt about her equal time. It was about the American People having equal time to hear both points of view. Ms. Boodhoo we havent had a chance to talk about your famous whiteboards, but i wonder if i can ask you a question about numbers . I know matt is your strong suit. On a scale of one to 10, how interested would you be in filling senator harris seat if she were elected president . Vice president . Rep. Porter i ran for office in 2018 because i wanted to make a difference on policy. For that i had the honor of harris,for senator helping families facing foreclosure. I was making a difference in policy doing that, as a law professor. I am always going to be open to anything i think let me deliver change in peoples lives. I think one of the most frustrating things for the American People is to hear hungry people or senators announce one thing, governors, they say, this is what weve done but then in their real lives they are experiencing something else. Are we hear people say, we giving out these benefits, but they are not being delivered checks. I am going to say yes to any opportunity where i think i can help deliver meaningful change in peoples lives. Whether that is the senate, whether that is continuing to serve on the Oversight Committee in congress. All of those are good tools to make change. Ms. Boodhoo could you give us a number between one to 10 . Rep. Porter nope. No number. Some things cant be quantified. Ms. Boodhoo wow. [laughter] thank you so much for taking the time to speak with us representative katie porter. Represents katie californias 45th congressional district. Ask for taking the time with us today. Rep. Porter thank you. Ms. Boodhoo now lets and by going back to mike allen. It is not exactly the right time of day, but like you do on your podcast, i have to say, good morning. Ms. Boodhoo its what we are used to saying to each other. Mr. Allen i was very interested in a conversation about climate. And it reminded me of how little conversation there has been. This has been such an issuesprepresident ial race. So much of our conversation has been about the antics of the debate. Like, someone get to answer a question . No one is talking about the issues, is usually what people vote on, right . I was really struck by representative porters answer about green jobs and talking about bringing back middleclass jobs, but marrying labor unions and Building Trades into this conversation. I had to stop for a moment and think, was the last time we heard a president ial candidate talking about this . I dont even know when. Mr. Allen build back better, that becomes the economic message, right . Ms. Boodhoo right. For people who are playing paying close attention, for people who are able to go to town halls, which we know is a very limited amount of people, i think all of those traditional venues are lost a little bit. Which is why these debates are so important. Mr. Allen whatever you think of these times, one thing that makes me hopeful and optimistic is, people are really learning details and really care. I was interested in your conversation about the Electoral College. You did an instagram life the other day. People wanted to ask real questions. People are really paying attention. Ms. Boodhoo i think that is something we are missing people missing. There is a segment of the population wanting to know what is going on and really concerned about the Electoral College system, we have a system that is set up to focus on these little swing states . That is what a lot of you know, there is that conversation about swing states and they think, what about me . People were asking questions about, how do we change the Electoral College . How does it work . How many votes per state . I do think we can never underestimate the amount of basic civic information people are looking for. Mr. Allen and now as we are getting the wrap up on our screen i have to ask, you were born in miami, so i have to hear florida, florida, florida what are you hearing from back home . Ms. Boodhoo i was an absentee voter in 2000, so i think it is interesting. My parents live in northcentral florida. What i hear from my parents, as well as from friends and family in miami is, this is close. I would not call this race at levels ofnk at all the state, at all ages, all demographics, i dont know that we know who is going to win florida. Mr. Allen we thank you for the conversations and i will hear you on your podcast, axios today. Ms. Boodhoo thank you, mike. Mr. Allen thank you very much. And thank the bank of america for making these conversations possible. To have breakfast with you every day. Axios. Com, sign up. And some news i am excited about. Axios is taking the local to make you smarter, faster you live. We would love for you to check that out at axios. Com local. You will see where our pilots noosed we have an axios shapers next week. Look forward to seeing you then. In the meantime, take you for the conversation and i will see you on axios. Com. This afternoon President Trump holds his first inperson event being hospitalized covid19. We will address a group at the white house. Starting at 2 00 p. M. Eastern, live on cspan. 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