In lowest of any president his first year. In his second year, 40 , the lowest of any president elected president in his second year in office. In his third year, he was at 42 , the lowest except for jimmy carter, we know it happened to him. President who has never seen a majority Approval Rating. It is important because Approval Ratings are the best way to determine whether a president is likely to get reelected or not. Referenda on the incumbent. It is not like a choice election like you had in 2016 or 2008. The coronavirus hit, he was only four or five points ahead in most polling. Joe biden had a lead in every one of the 20 States Hillary clinton carried, plus d. C. , by more than a margin of error, with the possible exception of minnesota. Then he had six battleground states. Michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, effectively settled. All three in the margin of error. North carolina, he was running with the president slightly ahead. The coronavirus hit and everything changes. Now we are looking at, in the average of all of the polls, it is about seven. 8, 9, 10 points behind. In swing states, he is behind it all six of those, and then he has got his leads in places like georgia, iowa, texas, ohio, and those leads are very small if at all. He is in a whole. He was within striking distance before the coronavirus. Not a competitive race today. He is not within striking distance today. Something would have to change for him to get into a more competitive situation. Lineswe will separate the for those supporting the bidenharris ticket. And those supporting the trumppentz ticket. Trumppence ticket. Before we go to calls, what do the best bit of good and bad news these candidates have gotten in the last several days . Trying to think what has happened for President Trump. Went into the two conventions with a lead of high single digits. When you are 10 points, in polls that i have the most confidence in, you cannot get a bounce off of 10 points. You cannot get a convention bounce off of 10 points. He seemed to have done. As for the president , i do not much of a bounce. His Approval Ratings moved up a little bit but he has not closed and manyetween biden key states. Now, i amght hardpressed to say what happens that makes the race more foretitive right now President Trump. Maybe a little better in minnesota, but he is still behind there. How about the atlantic remarksout disparaging that the president has pushed back on about the military. Had dozens and dozens of stories like this. I do not think they move many voters, to be perfectly honest. Anybody who is likely to get outraged by anything President Trump said, did, allegedly said, allegedly did, i think they were outraged long ago. 42 with the president , i think that is rocksolid and they will never drop. Anybody expecting President Trump to drop one Something Like this happens, you cannot. , they are not going to, because he never rose, he cannot drop. He is basically holding with his base. His ability to win over those , that has been severely compromised by a loss of tailwind in terms of the economy. That was his best issue, losing the tailwind hurt him. Seeing a slow to recognize the severity of the coronavirus and has not been effective at it. That hurt him with voters in the middle. You can roll them up into trump lovers and trump low theres, with very few in between. He has never gone after those in between and i think after the four months, his ability to win them over has been severely compromised. That is why i think he has a difficult time getting reelected. Is calling from clinton, maryland. You are up first. Yes, mr. Cook store my fender stole my thunder. I was going to ask about the impact of the atlantic story on trump selection. I would like to say, it is my trump hasat donald the wrong idea about his followers and what they look for in a president. Trump speeds for 30 of the population who are racists. I am sorry to say that. Theyump died tomorrow, would find someone to take his place. He has a message for those people no matter what he does or says, it has an effect on them, while he continues to espouse their beliefs. I tend to focus, you know, 90 of people who call themselves republicans will call themselves republicans down the line and same with democrats. Even of the 40 that call themselves independents, the vast majority of them lean republican Orleans Democrat an 80 of them vote that way. You are only talking about somewhere between 5 and 13 that are swing voters. These are the malleable people who can move around. Dynamic that changes the most, it will not be atlantic articles. We have had many of these before. Middle,s group in the they thought the economy was in strong shape and gave him complete credit for the economy, but a lot of these people have real questions about his character, about him as a person , his morality, his judgment, and his unwillingness to listen to experts. But the Strong Economy was keeping those problems in check. Strong economy and the concerns about him as a person and his leadership style, those concerns start going up. That is what changed the most. These kinds of articles, i do not think these things will move them. It is more a matter of, do i want to renew his contract for another four years, yes or no . And that is what is important. Biden is almost beside the point in this race, as is normally in incumbent races. From franklin, new york, good morning. To makei would like three points. The first was on inauguration day, january 21. The Unemployment Rate was 4. 9 and it did drop under trump to around 3. 9 . Lifting was done under president obama and Vice President biden. The second point i would like to , in the 25 weeks, 23 of the weeks, over one million americans filed for unemployment and two of those weeks, over 6 Million People filed for unemployment. 56 million americans filed for Unemployment Insurance since march 15. That is not a good economy. It is not a great economy. That is my neighbors children to the east of me, to the west , this has not been a great economy for those young adults. I would like to make if you do not mind, the stock market. I think a lot of us are addicted to judging the economy by the stock market. , 10 of we thet people own 84 of shares in the stock market. That youk market surge have seen was never discussed september 19. The Federal Reserve began a by up corporate debt. Since september of 2019, the Federal Reserve has brought up 7 trillion in corporate debt. This is quantitative easing on steroids. To the numbers the last caller rod up, to what extent do they play into the biden strategy . Daniel is extremely informed. Terriblemy, it was in shape when obama came into office. It did get better over those eight years, very slowly. And it continued to after President Trump took office. School all learned in that americans vote their pocketbooks. Line fromer the old 1992, it is the economy, stupid. There is a wonderful book about i didnt identity politics and the 2016 election. Found so interesting all the way through george w. Bush, there was a very strong relationship between consumer confidence, how people felt about the economy, and the president s Approval Rating. They feel better about the economy, and the Approval Rating goes up. Then president obama came into under and under obama and trump, that relationship has almost gone away. Thepeople are not voting on economy the same way they used to. They are voting culture and identity. It is race and gender, it is town do you live in small rural versus urban suburban. These things come together. That is why President Trump of 50 yearsix months low unemployment from september of last year to february of last year, six consecutive months of unemployment, and his Approval Rating hardly went out. Up. When the economy went into the tank, no one thinks he caused the coronavirus or the economic downturn, but, ups and downs of the economy per se do not affect job Approval Ratings or elections the way they used to. It is how was he handling the job overall, and he was always within striking distance until the coronavirus hit, until he was real slow. Never did fully engage with it. I think that in the loss of the economic tailwind has made a difference in this election. It is the loss of his tailwind is what i think has heard his heard him. I want to read you a headline from south florida. Biden is three points ahead of trump now in the First Convention pull. The gap is narrowing. Take us to that if you could. Three points ahead in florida i think for biden is a good place to be. The three that settled the presidency, mischa get michigan, wisconsin, and pennsylvania, those were the ones that biden started pulling up in first. Florida was actually holding back and not doing well for biden. If you were going to point to one or two states where the coronavirus hurt and his handling of it hurt him more than anything else, i would say florida and michigan. You have seen biden go up in florida. 4,en never had a consistent 5, or six point lead in florida. You would have to go back to when he had the 12 point lead a year ago. Is as good as it is likely to get for biden. People tortant for remember that because we have got such hyper partisanship, i mean, if you are a democrat, a republican president can do little or nothing right, and your side can do little or nothing wrong. For republicans, their president , a president of their party, can do very little wrong, and anything a democrat does is what i amou guys get getting at. Does isg is what it creates a high floor and a low partyg, that because your will stay with you no matter what, it creates a very strong floor. Because the other party will be against you no matter what, it creates a very strong ceiling. That is sevenad points in the Real Clear Politics National average, eight or nine in some of the other Live Television interview pulse, i think that is about as big as you could get, given hyper partisanship. A threepoint point lead in florida, a state President Trump carried by a point that republicans carry for the senate and governor by one point each that is President Trump running four or five points behind. I do not think biden has slid in florida at all. Host tammy. Will put think biden our health back at risk with china. Trump just brought back frominds of businesses overseas and plans to bring back and has Broader Health back to the United States from china with our medications and stuff. Biden plans to undo all of that. All of the businesses have taken and has gone to extensive remakes of businesses due to covid. New businesses started up, creating many jobs for the american people. New jobs fromot bringing health care back to the u. S. Host thank you for calling. More on the economy. , where fracking has become one of the big issues. Take us to that state and how the candidates are doing. Pennsylvania was fascinating on election night. In 2016 was seen the Clinton Campaign both sides spent a ton of money and attention on pennsylvania. The Clinton Administration campaign spent normas amount of money and that metro area and in pittsburgh, which basically said, there are not that many people, we will go ahead and let trump take that. City of out of the philadelphia with a 450,000 vote margin, more than they thought they needed to win the state by. The margins they were looking for but got killed in between. You had two different things. High shares of the vote, where there was a county or two in pennsylvania, donald trump got 80 of the vote. There were quite a few where he got 70 . It added up and the turnout in smalltown, Rural America, turnout zoomed in world in 2016 to a level it had not before. The model was basically broken. Campaign, theyis will make their own mistakes. I can tell you, they are not going to ignore part of pennsylvania that is between philadelphia and pittsburgh for sure. Will not take for granted michigan and wisconsin, for that matter. He may make new mistakes but will not make the same mistakes clinton had where they thought they had michigan in the bag and that they did not need central pennsylvania. The fracking you mentioned, that were area where democrats on the wrong side of it. It has created a lot of jobs. But environmental problems [indiscernible] has helped bring back a lot of jobs. It is fracking did not start in 2017 President Trump took office. It created a lot of jobs and helped us build energy independence, something we thought was a pipedream, really. Back to your calls in just a moment or two. I wanted to turn to key senate races. What were lessons learned, if any, from the Massachusetts Senate primary . Guest for a general election, i do not think there are many lessons. In important takeaways that campaigns matter, that joe kennedy started off with a big lead. Ed markey, who became more of a creature of washington in a very Effective Member of congress when he was in the house and the senate, he was able to remake him into a candidate of young people, even though he is significant old significantly older than joe kennedy is, captures a middle movement, all of this. He became the cause candidate. Joe kennedy, who is younger and more exciting, became sort of of the older establishment. Markeys campaign was effective been a 10 ord had 15 deficit into a campaign. In the senate races overall, year,his year, late last it was probably not much better ofn a one in four chance democrats getting a majority in the senate. Is reason was the senate 53. 7. Democrats would need a three and thee to get 5050 new Vice President would break the tie for them, or four seats to get up to 51, if President Trump remains elected and Vice President pence breaks the tightness senate. Democrats will lose one for sure in alabama. They need to be win four seats and win the presidency. In january, they only had four good shots at winning republican seats. In arizona, colorado, maine, but where are we now . Were in muchhose toughers shape in the beginning of the year. Be in a competitive but not that much trouble, now, she is behind in a decent number of poles we are seeing. Then we have got one more with produce, that has now become a tossup as well. One thing we are seeing is democrats are struggling in states they used to do very well in the industrial belt. Michigan, wisconsin, indiana,nia, ohio, they are doing worse now but democrats are doing better in the sun belt states where you have a lot of College Educated suburban voters moving from other parts of the country, making georgia less georgian and less southern. And virginia and texas less southern, which is why you saw democrats do so well in the term election in 2018. It was winning suburbs outside of atlanta, dallas, houston, oklahoma city, richmond, virginia, so democrats were moving up in certain states and moving and dropping down to a certain extent in other states where we are seeing a realignment. Whites with less than a four year college to greet are moving more toward the Republican Party but collegeeducated, suburban are moving away from the Republican Party toward the Democratic Party. So we are seeing alignment in the country is getting small town rural or republican. We are seeing a realignment take place in this country. Lets get a call from amy. Good morning. Good morning. Mr. Cook, i have watched you for a long time and always valued your opinion. I am thinking about the trump voter. My husband and i were in about 17 states mostly in the east. More intensity in terms of signage for trump and also ohio, we heard a woman talking to her friend who said, i will vote for trump but i would never tell a poll or anybody. My friends are for biden, i am scared, but a lot of people i know are going to vote for trump but would never say so in the polls. Two points. The first is, signs and bumper stickers have only been seen as a value to help name recognition. It really does not mean much beyond that. Until 2016, when anyone driving started seeing a lot of trump signs, the Trump Campaign think it is because he has a lot of science. Not really. Premiumlks have put a on getting signs out there and billboards, trucks going around. That has become a priority. Back inot a priority 2016. ,n terms of the shy trump voter i do not put much credence in that. I understand why people say it. Saidsay the polls all Hillary Clinton was going to win and she didnt, so people must have been lying to the polls. What do national to National Polls do . They measure the National Popular vote. Nationalthe average of polls going into election day . Hillary clinton had a lead of 3. 2 Percentage Points. What was the National Popular vote . 2. 1 percentage point lead for Hillary Clinton. 1. 1 points difference between the average and what the total vote was. That is not much. When posters and political scientists looked and said why were they off one percentage point, they found that whites with less than a four Year College Degree were slightly under sampled in the polls few that in the polls. Fewer of them were interviewed. And whites with College Degrees were over sampled, overrepresented. Donald trump had people of all different races, creeds, and educational levels, but among democratic roots, whites with a less than a fourYear College Degree was the sweet spot, his strongest group. Any polling that had an underrepresentation of them would work against him. It was not that they were lying. It is that for whatever reason, they were not in the sample. Now issters are doing leadingng whites, there by education level to what they should be. In 2018 the polls were dead on. Another point that posters make is, if you look at the gap that was out there, even in places where donald trump did extremely well, it is like there was not much of a difference. It was a sampling point. The thing about it is, lets just assume, ok, democrat probably needs to win the National Popular vote by maybe two or three Percentage Points to win the electoral college. N californiaton wo by 4 million votes and new york state by 7 million. Morelican votes are efficiently allocated around the country. It democrat needs to be ahead by two or three points to start being reasonably confident that they will win the electoral college. And then lets say there is a shy trump point voters. Again, i do not believe it. Most posters i know in both parties do not believe it. But lets give them that. Is aead above 54 joe biden real, honest to god, meaningful lead. To 10. Ow, seven voter byis a shy trump a point or so, and wisconsin and pennsylvania and michigan were the three states where the polls were the most off. The only three polls nationally that were significantly off. Those states had disproportionately high numbers of noncollege whites in the posters in those states were generally not waiting by education or race. Polls were wrong. If you looked at our ratings going into election day morning, lean likelyates solid democrat or republican, that when exactly how we thought. There were two states that we called tossup. They were really close. There were three states what we were wrong on. Those were three states where the polls were wrong and it seems to be because of this under sampling and the posters are correcting for that. At least, the good ones are. I do not expect to see that is a problem in this election. Some of the senate races. ,ou mentioned the senate race here are some ads from it. I approve this message. They call me the closer. Even i have to hand it to this market kelly dude, talking vitamins shakes. Overselling sick people for rise to the hospital. Need a flashing you watch . Mark kelly has got that. He will do anything for a buck and say anything for a vote. At it again, she is distorting the facts and her own record. Beens she has said have called ridiculous, shameful, and desperate. She spent millions on independent factchecks, calling them misleading and plain false. Marthas games before. This time, arizona is not what has he been doing right . In this case, it is a race that is just not close anymore. Kelly has got a big lead, the biggest of any democratic challenger in the country. I think a lot of this has to do , when she ran and lost the 2018, she had to run farright to win the republican primary because she had two extremely conservative opponents, including the former chair of the county. To wined way farright the primary. Normally, if youre republican, you run to the right and then you have to pivot back to the center to win the general election. While you are a democrat, you really have to move over here to nail down your primary and then you pivot back toward the middle to win the general election. She just kept going off to the and positioned herself so far out of the mainstream that she lost the race, then got appointed to take the old mccain seat. She positioned herself in such a horrible way, she has not been able to reposition. So she was in a bad place really before this place started. Kelly has raised a ton of money. It is not even close now. She has she is in tough shape. I am not saying it is over but it is tough for her. In massachusetts, a trump supporter. Caller thank you, cspan. I am a big trump supporter. I think he has done a good job. No matter who was in there, if a democratic president had been there, i think he would be blamed for the virus. This is a tough time. But president has done everything he said he would do. I appreciate the comment of your guests. I read his magazine and i think he is smart but the polls are meaningless. President trump will win. Thank you. Have a caller from North Carolina coming up in a moment. The big senate rate with the republican, and the democrat. What is happening in that race . Guest this race is really about change taking place in the state. In arizona, there was a piece of that. People were moving from other parts of the country and changing the state. Dont think tom has done a lot wrong. It is the states changing. It is all the growth in the area of charlotte and the research triangle. Becoming welleducated with a lot of people coming from with highend jobs, making it less southern and making it look more like the rest of the country. Several have been in this situation, where they get caught in a jam. If they move away from the president , if they do anything other than what is really get a lot of they flak from the right. If they do not move back toward the center, they position themselves badly for general election. Republican primaries have been, these republican senators in top states. Arizona is increasingly, georgia, theye, are held hostage by a an extremely conservative base that will not let them adapt to the changing nature of the state. In thes no tolerance Republican Party right now for any criticism of President Trump or much differentiating from debt for him. You cannot vote against him on much of anything, except some part that Foreign Policy things, without catching a lot of flak from a trump base. Have been latched to him as his numbers have gone down. He brought their numbers down with them in those competitive states. Not in other states, but in competitive states, his numbers have dropped. Thems sort of helped pull down with him. That caller from North Carolina. Biden supporter. Thank you for waiting. Caller no problem. Good morning. Thank you for cspan. The Trump Supporters that call in, and say that he has brought all these manufacturing jobs back, they never name the company that comes back. I have never heard any names. But quite a few companies have gone bankrupt this past year. They are closing their stores. Office depot closed a bunch. Macys, 12, cvs, 22. Then there is automation happening. Saw recently it scared the truck drivers. From never get an answer the senator tilliss office. I have not heard from richard since his last Facebook Page posting and easter. President trump and his daughter manufacture a lot of their things in china. They bringing their manufacturing factories back here in setting up shop and paying people a living wage so they do not have to be on food stamps or section eight housing . And one more point and you can cut me off, the health insurance, where is his plan . Everyone will be covered and it would be cheaper. People do not realize, he has got the department of justice arguing in new orleans to take all of the preexisting conditions away. If you are employed and you have insurance through your employer, the preexisting condition coverage will go away for people who have insurance, not just for obamacare, the aca. He is a con man and a grifter. Annie wants to hear details. She is obviously an informed viewer. Know where trump clothing or goods are manufactured. That is not my deal. Made severale, she points but 1. I think a lot of people do not appreciate, is a lot of the jobs that have been lost, and we have had incredible job losses over the last 40 or 50 years, of certain kinds of jobs. It used to be, 40 years ago, if you did not graduate if you only graduated from high school, you could get a job in the manufacturing sector, the auto plant or whatever. You could make a really good living without a college degree. You could provide for your didnt maybe yours house have to work because they could take care of the kids, and the working class in the middle class became one of this one in the same. Those were the kinds of jobs that took a hit in the last 40 or 50 years. ,ome of it is Foreign Trade where whatever was made there got moved to china or whatever. Some of it was. But some were moved from michigan or ohio to alabama or south carolina, georgia, wherever. As the callert, pointed out, was automation, it was technology. What simply nobody does that Assembly Worker used to do. Of lumped in with trade, which has created a lot of this huge economic dislocation we have had, and people sort of sliding out of the middle class, it has been a certain kind of job. I think that is what we have got to, as a country, move back toward. Creating jobs for people who are not in the technology sector. They are not writing computer code. Maybe not in the health care sector. Call a spade ao spade, that Automation Technology has cost a lot of people these jobs and created this economic angst. Even back during the republican primary of to i16 of 2016, if you look at where donald trump was performing against jeb bush and marco rubio and Mike Huckabee and the others, it typically was places where they have had a lot of manufacturing jobs. Industrial areas. Those were the places that had been hurt the most. Is addressinghe the anger, the fear, frustration decliningthat are in sectors of the economy, or shrinking sectors of the economy. They feel threatened and he addresses that. They see him as a speaking to or for them. It is a reason why a lot of people in the farming area, or other areas, that while his policies may not have been particularly good for them, they stick with him because they see him as speaking for them, that he says what they want said. This is about identity, it is about culture, not as much necessarily as economic self interest. Host a trump supporter. Hello. Caller my issue is the immigration, open borders on the southern border. I do not understand why most americans do not think it is common sense to protect our borders. Trump had to get the Mexican Government to help him protect the borders. Because the democrats flat out refused to do it. They were saying that caravans, hundreds of thousands coming in every year, the caravans were a mirage, that they were not real. I do not see how you could have a country without borders. Democrats flat out refused to help him. Host thank you for calling and bringing up the immigration issue. The thing is, if you know an economist or find one, there is a good chance the economist will disagree with you on the issue. Because americans are having womenand fewer children, are having fewer kids later in life. We are not replacing ourselves. What economists, most mainstream economists, will tell you is that we need more people, we need more people in the country to drive growth, that there are that nativeborn, legacy americans, if you will. That is a bad term, but they do not want. The second side, you need population growth to help economic growth. They say, if we decline in population, which is what would happen if we do not have it isation, basically, going to stifle economic growth. And therend the idea are a lot of people, we do not want moving into the country. But most economists would tell immigration,o need particularly people with certain skills. The last couple of years, a lot of these people come into the u. S. For grad school in math and the sciences and they are not coming and a lot of them were staying here and we were benefited from having some really smart, talented, hardworking people, and we will not get the benefit of those kinds of people in the future. Immigration, it is a lot more complicated than a lot of people seem to think it is. Back to iowa. You mentioned the incumbent in the senate race behind a bit. Coronavirus unrest that some of the ads are focused on in this race. Lets look at what the parties are putting out against each candidate and then we can talk more. Make no mistake about it. Joni has turned her back on the coronavirus. She voted twice against paid leave and even more leave for our hospital. A slush fund for corporate special interests, which would hand ceoss control of tax dollars even as they fire workers. Joni ernst went to washington and never looked back. Another night of violent protests. Protests are continuing across the country. Democrats invited it. I do not know why there are not uprising those all over the country and maybe there will be. Not welcome anymore, anywhere. Democrats encouraged it. When they go low, we kick them. That is what the new Democratic Party does. Questions about who the minnesota freda from Debt Freedom Fund is helping out. The fund offered bail to serial rapists, murderers, and other violent criminals back on the street. People. Arris encouraged say no. A potential slip for democrats in iowa. What is happening . Guest we see a lot of this both ways. Not going yourre way, you try to change the subject. Are, no matter which side you are on, what are the biggest issues facing the country . I think he would say, the coronavirus is the greatest challenge our country has faced in three quarters of one century. You would have to go back to pearl harbor and the Great Depression to find one of this manna to that effect many people. And the economy. The economy plunged at a rate we have not seen since the Great Depression. Shrink inissues comparison to those two. Important but there is no Health Care Without the economy. Coronavirus is health care. These are the dominant issues that are out there this year that will be framing the president ial and a lot of senate races and senate house races around the country, and, you know, a lot of times, candidates the just a lot of concern and a lot of advertisements have nothing to do with the biggest issues facing the country. But that is what campaigns do, what they think will work. I think thereut are great problems with civil and racial inequality, and but you havetices, seen these things happen in relatively few cities, and writing in the streets, where the rioting and this seems to be working, is in small town Rural America where there are not any riots. Certain kinds of people are really recoiling to what they are seeing on tv that may be nowhere near them, and that they are extrapolating out that most cities have not seen anything like any of this. And it is not widespread. But you do what you think will work in a campaign. Lizs waiting. Go ahead. Good morning. Ive listened to you for many years and always thought you had a good handle on the state of politics in america. I agree, basically, i think states like pennsylvania and florida that have a High Percentage of people over 65 living there, i think the inclination to vote for trump will be less because they have taken a much harder hit with the coronavirus. They have had friends or family members who had a difficult time with it, or even if they escaped all of that, they had been limited in seeing their families, especially grandchildren. I do not think they want to spend the lastly years of their lives trapped in the statehouse because coronavirus is not being dealt with. Think this president has done of handling the coronavirus. I think biden should be able to do better. Is,at, i think florida usually a lot of northern retirees that are somewhat better off financially. So they will want trump when they see the stock market up. I think the coronavirus is allencompassing and it is hurting the 1864 group as they go and more are testing positive. So they may not die of the virus but they may be left with kidney problems for the rest of their life because of the virus. Guest thank you for your kind words. I do not think we are disagree much. You go back to the 20 16, 2017, 2019 campaign, President Trump was weaker among people below or younger than the baby boomer generation. He was not a strong with the generation above the baby boomers initially. But this was his group. So this was precoronavirus. Coronavirusere the was hurt more than disproportionately was among older americans, older people that already have Health Issues and they feel particularly threatened. Were taking this seriously back in march or not, they do remember hearing that it is a hoax. They do remember hearing it is not much worse than the flow. That, andber all of that is what is holding them back, and the perception the president will not listen to people who know a lot more doubt this stuff than he does. Know a lot more about this stuff than he does. That is part of what has changed may. March, april, april, when President Trump was only six points behind, that is why he is further behind on the coronavirus and the loss of the economic tailwind. That is the reason why he is further behind now than he was then. Host seems like we just touched the surface here. We could talk longer but we are out of time. Thank you for engaging the callers and responding to some of their concerns on the various issues. As always, we appreciate your. Ime guest i was first on 35 years ago. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] i want to thank the people for what they do for the country. They helped me a lot when was trying to break through. Thanks a lot, everybody. , Labor Day Weekend on cspan monday, former white house chiefs of staff to the past for on how they dealt with crises during their respective administrations. The processing of information becomes extraordinarily important when youre dealing with crises. You have to stick to the process created and hopefully the president has empowered to make sure the president is getting all the information they need to make the right decision. Watch cspan, this Labor Day Weekend. Our campaign 2020 coverage continues monday with senator, harris joining a roundtable in milwaukee with black business owners, and meeting with union members. Thats live on cspan. Live, monday, labor day, on washington journal, will feature a campaign discussion on six battleground states, North Carolina, florida, wisconsin, pennsylvania, and arizona. Where candidates President Trump and joe biden are making efforts to win voters. Talk about the political makeup and dynamics of each state. Politicos lord a reporter, cleveland. Com political reporter jeremy elder, Washington Bureau , and arizonailbert Capital Times political reporter , watch washington journal live at 7 00 Easter Monday morning as we discussed battleground states. Join in with her phone calls, facebook comments, texts, and tweets. Treasury Steven Mnuchin stopped to talk with reporters and answered questions on negotiations among the administration, republicans, and democrats on funding the federal government and covid relief and an economic stimulus package. You have a couple minutes . Thank you. How are you . Sec. Mnuchin it is a beautiful day. Why dont we start with you . At this point in the negotiations, why the president wont personally speak with Speaker Pelosi . It did not go well [inaudible] sec. Mnuchin i dont think it is a question of he will or wont meet. As you know i have been , negotiating, i have done six or seven deals with the speaker. 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