Live streaming and ondemand at cspan. Org, or listen live on the cspan radio app free. About the news that came out yesterday about the Unemployment Rate dropping adding and the economy for thellion jobs American Workers in july. The to give us context, have with us this morning had a long, the economic correspondent with the washington post. Good morning. Guest good to be here. Host take us through this latest job report. Was this considered a good job report, a fair job report, a bad job report . Give us some context on what we heard yesterday. Guest great question. Overall it was a good job support. Certainly every job we can bring back right now after we lost 22 million in the spring is welcome. Figure wasllion better than anybody had forecast. This is a big asterisk to report, and that is a quarter of those jobs added back for temporary jobs. Wererticular, 238,000 census worker jobs. Those jobs are not going to last. Those of those people who have been knocking on your door, asking questions about the census 2020. Those jobs will be gone in the a few more weeks. Certainly in the business sector, over 100,000 jobs were added that our temp jobs. Those going to last . We hope so, but probably not. That was the big asterisk in this report. Host which sectors of our economy fared the best in july . In getting those jobs back . Which ones were they and why did they do better than others . Guest great question. So, the biggest job gain was those census workers. Part of the government sector we were just talking about. Werether two big gainers retail jobs, 249,000. And the hospitality sector that is your restaurants and hotels. 174 thousand jobs in that sector. What is important is to step back and look at the bigger picture. Yes, those two areas at a lot of jobs in august, however if you look at all of the job losses that have happened since march, most, atill down the quarter of jobs are still gone in the hospitality sector. We all can walk around our own neighborhoods and see those restaurants are not back at full capacity. A lot of bars are not open. Coffee shops, these sorts of things. That is where the pain is still most pronounced, even though some of those jobs are coming back. The figure i keep in my head about 50 of jobs have come back that we lost. Is that a class half full or a glass halfempty story . Different politicians are spending it differently, we still got a long way to go. Host i dont know if you can answer this questions from the numbers we got this today, the jobs that were gained, are these jobs that people are these jobs that people got back . Jobs they were working already or are these people moving to new jobs, jobs they did not hold before the pandemic . Host its a great question guest thats a great question. We dont have as much intel on that as we would like. We do know is some of the jobs were people returning to jobs they had held before. I tweeted this out yesterday. The most alarming thing to me in this report is we got confirmation that permanent job losses are rising. That is the really nasty scarring, where a lot of people at the beginning of this pandemic, about 80 of people who lost their job. They would be rehired quickly. But they would be rehired by the summer. Over,e are, the summer is only half the jobs are back. The people who are now being told that they are permanently off, thereeir is is no chance of them coming back, has reason has risen to 3 million. That is the permanent scarring we have to be careful about. Host can we tell from this job report whether the government stimulus programs past earlier earliering passed this spring boosted job creation we saw in july . Guest in august, yeah. Host in august, sorry. Guest there is no doubt that the government stimulus programs helped. We would be in a worse situation without them. There is different studies that have come up with different numbers, exactly how many jobs were saved by things like the Paycheck Protection Program that helped a lot of Small Businesses keep their employees. Those numbers vary, but everybody comes to the same conclusion that that extra stimulus money was a huge help. Question is, a lot of that money is now gone. A lot of those Program Loans and grants are now used. They are over. Of course, those unemployment by august 1, so we have gone a month without it now. A lot of fear is that the job gains we have been seeing that were pretty strong this summer, they just going to stall . They have already been slowing. July was slower than june. August was slower than july. We certainly dont want to fizzle out or have a backtrack here. 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