Administrator of the food and drug administration. Also new yk Health Commissioner serving under both mayor deacon and mayor giuliani. Its such an honor to welcome congressman clyburn. Hes the majority whip, the third ranking democrat from the United States house of representatives of currently serving also as the chairman of the House Select Committee on the coronavirus, and also the democratic working group. He came to congress in 1993 and representing South Carolina sixths Congressional District, straiting his skills. He feels elected president of his freshman class, rose through the ranks and elected chairman to have congressional black caucus. Vice chairman and later chairman of the Democratic House caulk is. He previously chaired as minority whip and assistant democratic leader. But i understand he gran his service as age 1 when he was elected president of his naacp youth chapter so he has longstanding skills in elected ffice. He also comes from Humble Beginnings and clearly his family taught him many important values that he draws on now. The importance of family and community. Of faith and integrity and respect in Public Service so we really do both smire admire and you your service, congressman so lso, we need you now thank you for joining us to reflect some on important issues before us and i thought that it would be probably only appropriate to really begin by asking you to reflect in a broad way on the state of race and race relations, social justice issues, inequality in our country. This has been a sad and challenging time with the loss of so many key figures in the civil rights movement. Reverend joseph lowry, elijah exum cummings and of course, last week laying to rest your friend and colleague john lewis. Ou mentioned that john lewis you mention that would john lewis was a hero to the country, an icon to the movement and more importantly a friend. With his loss you now really take up the mantle in some ways as a leading voice on civil rights issues in this country with your history and experience but also with the work youre doing now so perhaps i could turn to you just for some broad reflections, asics. Well, clyburn thank you very much for having me and thank you for your service, especially to the health field that im very, very concerned about. As for my 60year long friendship with john lewis. John and i first melt back in octoberof 1960,the weekend ofoctober15 on thecampus of morehouse college. Its also the same day i met Martin Lutherking jr. That night, as many may beaware,therewas alittle bit f adisagreementbetween thestudents,Martin Luther king jr. Andothers, as to what the approach ought to be. Some wereadvocating nonviolence for breakingunjustlaws, paying the penalty of going to jail. T as of that weekend, king himself had never been to jail. So a lot of us felt, and i was inthatgroup, that you lead notjustby precept but by example. Wewere challenging someof those notions. In orderto resolve thosedifferences, we met that nightin aroom on the compass. We went into thatmeeting around 10 00 inthe evening and itdid notcomeout until 4 00 the next morning. It was supposedto be anhourlong meeting,but it lastedmuch longer than that. Ofthemeeting t i callit my saul to paul transformation. Was a different person. I was enamoredby king. Igrewdramaticallyin those four orfive hours. John lewis was also committed to that movement. I willtelleverybody, there has alwaysbeen a civil rights movementin this country. You can go back to the 1700. Thesumterrebellion, the episodes incharlestonin the 1800s. Theniagaramovement in theearly 1900swhich led to the reationof the naacp. All of those were civil rights movements. But in every movement somebodyrises to the top. Its usually somebody who is head and shoulders above everybody else. That was john lewis in the Civilrights Movement of the 1960s. I always kind of cringewhen peoplesay you took part in the Civilrights Movement. No, i took part in a civil rights movement. So long as you have people whoaresubjectedtosuppression and other sorts ofunjustlaws,there is going to be a Civilrights Movement. But john internalized nonviolence. A lot of us accepted nonviolenceas a tactic. I am in that group. Johninternalized it and t becamehis way of life. John wasnear sainthood as far as i am concerned. And i often talked to him when he got ousted asthechair of thestudentnonviolentcorps,th at was 1966. Sflolved boardot of education stuff. He chaired orwasthedirectorof an educationproject in atlanta andi chaired thegood education activitiesgoing on in charleston counsel. So we interactedagain. We wentall over thesouth registering people to vote. Can you imagine in 1965 when john crossedthatbridge, only 2 of africanamericans in thestate of alabama were registered to vote. So we had our work cutout for us and it worked well. But, as a result of that bloody sunday march in 1965,we gotthe 1965 Voting Rights act inaugust of that year. And john became the symbol of Voting Rights in this country. And i think that president obama wasaccurate, that he is a foundingfather of the newamerica that all of us haveworked so hard for. John lewis was,to me, deservingof very accoladethat has been given him and even much more. Thats why im moved to change the newvotingrights act, to changethe name to the john rlewis Voting Rights act. It iskold home the passedthrough the house, i hopethe senate willpassit, becausewhat we aretrying to do isrestore theefficacy ofthe 1965 votingrightsact which wasrestoredby a court decisionthat came in years go. In the caseofshelbycountyv. Holder. We worked,johnworked,and bipartisanwaywith jim sensenbrenner, arepublican from wisconsin. They worked together toputouta new formatand updated the way the court askedus to. Thats what we did when wepassed the law. The senateis refusing to pass that law. So this is going to be the first election since 1965 that there wontbethe protections of theVoting Rights act. And thats why i think you hear somuch thereare so many shenanigansgoing on in washingtontoday, because peopleknow that votingprecincts canbe changed theday before the election. Thats what they did inlouisville,i thinkit was twodays before the election inlouisville, kentucky. They have donethe same thing in South Carolina. Voter i. D. Laws,forcing youto provideyour full Social Security numberif you want an absentee ballot. These aresuppression tactics that oughtnot to be in this country. I avebeenwarningpeople, one thingi learned by studying andteaching history is thatanything that has happenedbefore can happen again. It doesnt have to just be confined toother countries. This democracy is very tenuous. This democracy couldbelost if we are not careful. Those are powerfulwords and i think we all deeplyappreciate what they mean. Also appreciatethe role you are playingand tryingto help protectourdemocracy, and protect the right to vote as ego into a very important elections this fall, i think, voting and access to the poles and appropriate blorts is very much on all of our minds. You were talkingabout aset of criticalinflectionpointsand momentsin our countryand the history of the Civilrights Movement. This certainly feels like anothercritical moment, not onlythe recognition of what wehavelostin terms ofkey leaders like john lewis,butalsothissummer seeing the remarkable risingup ofprotest andcalls toaction to address issues ofcontinuingsocialinjusticea nd discrimination following the terrible and senseless murder of georgefloyd and callsin this country have echoed really, around the world. And then, of course, we find ourselvesin the midst of this unprecedentedcoronavirus crisis which ishaving devastating anddisproportionateburdenson people of colorin terms ofhealth, but alsoin terms of economicsecurity and economic futures. You nowareleadingthe house selectcommittee on thecoronaviruscrisis, of courseyou are respondingto thisbroaderlandscape around theseconcerns ofracial disparitiesand discrimination,and injustice. You see reason for hope . Do you see a path forward there . Do you think we can really build on thiscurrenttragedyand crisis towards a betterfuture . Oh, absolutely. You mentioned two things in yourintroduction tome, number one i am south carolinian. The motto of mystateis while i breathe, i hope. I believe in that motto very much. But i also was born and raised partnersage and my parsonage and my fathertaughtme the efficacyof brew the 11th chapter, first verse the evidence of thingsunforeseen. I keep faith. Johnlewis was, more thananybodyeverknew kept his faitheven whenhewas within an inch of his life. He he never lost faith. This morning i read aletter froma police chief downin florida whosent me a letter andasked me toconvey to thefamily of johnlewis howmuchhe foughtfor john lewis. And he talked about a chance meeting he had with him in an arum. I guess chief down in florida who sent me a letter and asked me to convey to the family of john lewis how much he fought for john lewis. He talked about a chance he had to meet him in an airport, i guess it was Logan Airport in boston, massachusetts. That is what you learn. You dont give up. This country is in pursuit of perfection. It is there in the preamble. The pursuit of a more perfect union. We will never get there, but we should always be in search of that. I am not giving up on the country. I believe that we are going to get through this pandemic, i believe we are going to get hrough this racial strife. My wife and i met in jail. It works for us, we stayed married 58 years. [laughter] she passed away last september, having lost a 30 year battle to iabetes. We never gave up on this country. We talked about it often. Right after labor day she was still talking about the election like john lewis. The last thing john lewis said to the former mayor of Atlanta Campbell who spoke at his funeral, tell people to vote. We are not giving up on this country. I think we will get beyond all of this and i will do everything i can. I have always said that and i eally mean this when i say that if political differences etween me and an opponent only require five steps i dont mind taking three of them, thats the way i approach governance. Thats the way i approach trying to run the position i hold as majority whip. Trying to meet people more than halfway. I am not giving up on the country. We are going to get through all of this. I know covid19 has revealed some fault lines in our system, especially our health care ystem. In one of my readings, i reread a twovolume book called democracy in america. Something in that book was very interesting. It said america is not great because it is more enlightened than any other nation, but because it has always been able to repair its faults. Thats what i believe. Some fault lines have been exposed. In health care, education, housing, covid19 has xacerbated some of that. What we have to do now as a country is repair those faults. That is where our Greatness Congress has to repair its faults and when we do wrapping e do that by our arms around it and do what is necessary to overcome it. We will get through this and wont be pleasant. Ng to have an election and i thinkthe election will do whatit hasalwaysdone and set this countryback on track. I want to get to theelection in a minute. First iwant totalk a little bit more about covid19 because it is such a pressing issue. Youfeel that in your ownstate whichisseeing, unfortunately,a significant risein cases and deathsacross our whole nation. Sadly,we are leadingthe world in this terrible courage. And scourge. And when we compareourselves to other nations thathavealreadygrappled withthisvirus, wesee thatour responsehasnot eenaseffectiveand has not llowedusto reallybegintoresume someof the activities we allcare so much aboutin theways that othercountries have,because of having had a strongernational response. I watched your hearing on fridayoncovid19 with dr. And fir i have to congratulate your pachens and diplomatic skills because there was some wild moments. But i thought overall it was a constructive hearing, but you did Say Something at one point that builds on what you were saying and quoted on Martin Luther king to do the right thing and ask the critical question, are we using our time well. And i guess from what you have been learning about the response to covid and your own strict, state and nation, what do you think of the critical next steps that we need to take . Clearly as you noticed, we dont have a National Plan and has put us in a bad place. But drawing on your optimism and your hope, what are your critical next steps . Mr. Clyburn the next critical step is to develop a National Plan. Dr. Fauch iy fauci. I spoke earlier about leadership being done by precept and example. It cant just be precepts. When i got my first administrative job as a 25yearold in charleston, South Carolina i was stopped in a restaurant and he said i have been watching you, im going to tell you something. You have these leadership positions. Just remember, leadership is as leadership does. I have never forgotten that. Leadership is as leadership does. Not as you express it, but as ou do. That is our problem. Dr. Hamburg well, picking up on that. Let me turn to leadership at the national level. We all know how important your voice and your support for Vice President biden has been in terms of moving him into the clear front runner position, and as we go into the National Elections in november, there was an article in the New York Times the sunday before about the circle of advisers around Vice President biden, and you made the observation that you get letters and telephone calls from people saying this is what biden needs to do, this is what you need to tell biden to do, but that you dont tell him any of that. I am hoping that in this intimate group you will tell us what you do actually tell biden, and maybe you will tell us who the vp is going to be. Rep. Clyburn good try. I dont tell him what to do. I said publicly that one of the reasons my wife and i stayed married for 58 years is because she always offered suggestions. She never told me what i must do. She told me what i should do. I might have interpreted the should as a must, but the fact of the matter is i should let the Vice President i share with the Vice President my thoughts when he asks for them. I have never called him and volunteered anything area anything. If he wants to hear more about what i said, he has my number and i will talk to him. I think we have to allow our leaders to do that which their hearts and their heads guide them to do. I have said to him and the public, that when it comes to a Vice President , he should allow the vetting and the polling to instruct him. Nce he gets that kind of instruction, he should apply his head and his heart to the process. He should find someone that will complement him as a candidate. He calls its impact a he calls it simpatico. Whatever it is i think you should be allowed freedom without any pressure from me or anybody else to make that decision. He is the one that is going to have to live with that. I dont know exactly what led john mccain to making the decision he made, but i have read enough about it since the no that it was not since to know that it was not long before he regretted it. He made the decision and it cost him dearly, though i dont think he would have won the election anyway. The fact of the matter is the vetting that should have been done before the announcement did not take place until the campaign was going on and by that time it was too late. These are the kinds of past experiences i think folks by the nominee and informed by that vetting in the polling. Dr. Hamburg we all recognize this is a very important election. That brings me back to what you were touching on earlier, how worried are you about voting . Do you feel that we are going to be able to have fair and open elections . That we are going to be able, in the covid crisis, to get people safely to the polls or do the kind of mail in, absentee voting that might be indicated . Ow worried should we be . Rep. Clyburn i am very worried. I think that the country has allowed itself to become susceptible to manufactured crises. For the last 10 or 12 years i have noticed that, because of maybe forms of communicating like the internet and other soundbites, i cant tell you i have three daughters, they are all grown but they are internet people. They are what we call social media people. I am not. Every now and then, more now than then, they are informing me about what is being said about me on social media. 90 of the time its just wrong. Its outright wrong. People allow someones opinions to become fact, and they act on it. I cant tell you how many times i have seen this and wondered, why do we allow this to happen . The president of the United States expressing his opinion about mailin voting, its not the facts. The state of washington has been doing this forever, and they have found that there is almost o fraud. You will have fraud in almost anything. One of my first meetings not a meeting of mind, one of my first memories was a meeting my dad had they were about to defrock the minister. They did not burn down the church, they got rid of the minister. You dont get rid of elections because of fraud, had to put the elections forever. In the midwest another big fraud case. The president s party. Both parties may be subjected to fraud, but we should not develop our entire approach to this election based upon the possibilities of fraud. Lets put in place the kind of processes to protect that, we can do that. Congress can appropriate the necessary funds to have voting take place up to election day. Election day will be november 3. There is no reason why we cannot start voting in earnest at the same time states start absentee nd early voting. They do it for 30 days in most states, why dont we have voting in earnest for 30 days . Why dont we put the resources in the budget so we can say that you can vote for a period of 2, 3, 4 weeks. And have all those votes. Mail it and have it postmarked y the saturday before election day. In order for the votes to count voting absentee until the day of election and not knowing for 15 or 20 days who the winners are. You can do that proactively. It is so easy to do. I am worried that we will sit back knowing full well that there is somebody trying to disrupt this election. Trying not to have this election at all, and trying to install them self as a strongman. I said this before, you have to say what you feel like saying. I dont think this man plans to have an election. I think he thinks he can hoodwink the people of this country much the way that the people of germany were hoodwinked back in the 1930s. Thats what i said, thats what i believe. Dr. Hamburg wow. A lot to think about and a lot for us to do. I know i am not the only one who wants to ask you questions. I want to invite members to join our conversation now with their questions. I want to remind people that this meeting is on the record and i think that the operator will now start to open up the queve. As a reminder, to ask a question please click on the raised hand icon on your zoom window. When you are called on click the unmute now button and proceed with your name, affiliation, and question. To attend this meeting please we will take our first uestion. Thank you, representative cliburn. Especially for your leadership. My question is related to oreign policy. P indiscernible] rep. Clyburn if i understood you correctly, that Vice President biden should be informed by the polling should be informed by the polling at and should make that decision bake on based on his head and heart. I am confused on, why should polling influence that decision if it is such a personal decision with a person that has to work with him in the administration . Or did i misunderstand what you said . Rep. Clyburn you understood me perfectly well. There are a lot of people that i get along personally with. I feel good personally about. That does not mean that something will not show up in the bedding. Remember i said vetting and polling. If you are looking for people to vote for you, then i think it is incumbent on you to try to get people who the constituents or the voters feel i said let the vetting takes place, let your polling take place, and when that is over, then you then look at that and let your heart and your head then look at it. The polling is not final. Your head and your heart is final. I think it would be foolish not to take a look at the vetting. If you are paying attention to the vetting stuff jumps out that you would never know anything about. The same thing goes with polling. If you like somebody and you find out they are polling at 2 , people who want to vote for you may not like that person, i think you need to take a look at that. You heard me perfectly well. Dr. Hamburg thank you. Lets take the next question. We will take our next question. Why should polling influence that decision is if its such a personal decision with a person that has to work with him in the administration or did i misunderstand what you said . No, you understood me perfectly well. Look, there are a lot of people imget around personally with and ay feel good personally about. But that doesnt mean that something wont show up in the vetting. Remember, i said vetting and polling. If you arelooking for people to voteforyou, theni thinkit is incumbent on you totry to getpeoplewho theconstituents tor voters feel critical about. I said let the vetting take place, let your polling takeplace, and when thatis over,then you then lookat that and letyour heart andyour head then look at it. The polling is notfinal. Your head andyour heart is final. Ithink it would befoolish not to take a look atthe vetting. If you arepaying attentionto the vettingstuff jumps out that youwould never know anything about. 1k39 same thing goes with polling. Somebodyand like you find out theyare pollingat2 ,people who want to vote for youmay not like thatperson, ithink you need to take a lookat that. You heardme perfectly well. Thank you. Lets take the next question. We will take our next question from sally horn. Thank you. I would liketo go back tothe issue of voting by mail. I amvery concerned, as are mostof myfriends, by what has beenrevealed by i think the washingtonpost and new yorktimes about the effortsoftrumps appointee to postmastergeneral andhis slowdown of thepostal serviceto make it a less reliable service. And what thatmight mean forvotingand the absenteeballots getting out topeopleand when theyhave filled themout getting back. What might the congress be the people who were doing utilities disconnected because they arent getting the bills that they ought to get. And other things as well. Think about what it is that you get from the postal service. We ought not to think about this just in terms of voting. When it comes to voting, here is what i would suggest. I have studied the way they vote in colorado. Its not just the post office, everybody gets the ballots in the mail. You dont have to put your ballots in the mail. There are drop boxes around town that you can go to when you go to the Grocery Store or drugstore and you can drop off your ballot. I think a 30 day window prior to election day ought to be used in such a way that we will fund polling places or ballot deposit boxes 30 days out. Having enough boxes to accommodate the populations. I dont know what the best will be, but i think thats what we ought to do. I believe that is what is required, especially when we have this pandemic out here. We know that people ought not to be gathering. What happened in wisconsin was crazy and a lot of people got sick. People believe in this country and they run the risk of getting sick to participate in this democracy. Possibly can, as safe as we possibly can, and i do believe that ought to be in this bill we can say to Mitch Mcconnell, ok, if this is what you want you get it when there is enough money put here. For us to have an election. Put the procedure there. In that way the American People see exactly who is trying to subvert this democracy. Think that is a much more serious issue than suppressing the vote. That is what is taking place here. Dr. Hamburg thank you very much. This election we also probably can anticipate that we may not have an answer the evening of the election or even the next day, that this may be a prolonged period of counting votes and accessing assessing the situation and that may be fraught as well. Thats a lot for us to be worrying about. Next question, please. Operator we will take our next question. Hello, representative. I am from invest america. Democrats in the house of representatives are also up for the vote this november. I would like to know, and can you share with the community what is the argument you and Speaker Pelosi and your team are making with regards to your record, what are the accomplishments you are laying out that you are proud of as a ouse of representatives . Rep. Clyburn when it comes to voting i think that each congressperson has to be very in tune with what takes place with the constituents in their own Congressional Districts. I tell people all the time, the first Congressional District of South Carolina splits six counties with six Congressional Districts. That is me and joe cunningham. We are both democrats. I cannot get elected and Joe Cunninghams part of the six counties, and he could not get elected in my part of those six counties. Thats just the way it is. I think that when we lay out a National Proposal we have to keep in mind that people have to be free to vote for their constituents and advocate for their constituents. When you look at the party as a whole, all you have to do is look at the bills. We just did the justice and policing act, we passed that in the house. The democrats passed it. We tell the American People, we are doing i saw a number saying 90 of the American People think that something is amiss with Law Enforcement in this country, and we fixed that. I dont know of anybody ver 130 gets choked to death and the next day we see a video of two or three officers mimicking his death. 130 pound young man who pleaded for his life and told them how sick he was and they were laughing the next day. 90 of americans Say Something needs to be done about that, democrats want to do something about it but its being held up in the senate by Mitch Mcconnell. We passed these Appropriations Bills that ought to be passed. We passed the heroes act. Look at the heroes act. If Mitch Mcconnell put that on the floor i think it would pass, and state and local governments would be taken care of. They came up with a plan with no money for state and local governments, but 2 billion to build a new fbi building. How much money did they put in heir so that Business People can get 100 Tax Deduction for their business lunches . Thats what is in the bill coming from the republicans. What we are going to do is lay out to the American People, here is what in what is in the legislation we are passing, democrats control one third of the process. The republicans control the enate and the white house. They have two thirds and we have one third. We have been loud, these proposals that we have already passed, the appropriation bills, justice and policing, i am talking about big bills that have made headlines. I think the American People will see why we are proud of what we have done. And be able to compare that to what these other guys are proposing. I dont understand why we will not Fund Unemployment insurance for people who arent working so hey can take care of their children, because Childcare Centers are closed and they have to go to find ways to take care of their children if they happen to be an essential worker. I dont understand this. Why we cant have food stamps for poor people, but you can have a business lunch Tax Deduction for business eople. I dont understand that. That is the kind of stuff you can lay out to the American People going into this election so they can compare with care and do what is necessary to preserve this democracy. I think we have time for a couple more questions, we are grateful to have this time with you, so much important work that you are doing on the hill and such challenging times but lets take another question. Operator lets take our next uestion. From glenn fukushima. Hello, congressman, can you hear me . Rep. Clyburn yes. I want to thank you for your efforts. My question has to do with black lives matter. Since there are such huge disparities with regards to criminal justice, education, housing, income, what are the concrete steps you recommend that a Biden Administration take in order to make significant progress in alleviating the problems that are posed in addition to restoring the Voting Rights act. Rep. Clyburn lets take health care. En health care, i think that the Biden Administration ought to do three things. Number one, it ought to improve upon and make more accessible the Affordable Care act for everybody. Number two, i think we need to make broadband available. So that we can have telehealth. Number three, i think we ought to create a National Network of federally qualified have unity health centers. Community health centers. I propose that at the cost of 55 million 55 billion to do that. Lets look at education. I think we need to improve the we need to enhance the Higher Education act. We have to do something immediately to get rid of some of the student debt. We ought not to have Financial Institutions making big profits off of students while they are in school, and then they come out of school and start paying a big debt. Cant start a family, cant buy a home, and they are really becoming almost wards of the state. That is in education. In housing one of the first things we want to do is get rid of the Tax Deduction we cant afford to build Affordable Housing because one f the things we did was reduce the corporate rate down to 21 , joe biden has said he will move all the way back up to 28 . One of the reasons for that move is we have made it unprofitable for people to do Affordable Housing. The people who were doing we cannot get people in the Affordable Housing that some of them need to rent. We need to enhance mortgage lending. One of the things a lot of people talk about with my civil rights background, one of the things i never hear people talk about is i spent 14 years on bank boards. Two predecessor banks that are now harlem bank of america, citizen southern, i was on the boards and on the audit committee. I chaired the commensurate reinvestment act and i know what we need to do to stop redlining and begin to make mortgages more accessible and affordable for eople. Black lives matter is about more than just Law Enforcement. That is not there are people who will never make contact with the law, but they are trying to live every day and trying to educate themselves and their children, trying to get Affordable Housing. These are the things. Back when we were doing the socalled recovery act back in 2009, i said to those gathered, democrats and republicans, house and senate that i am one of the few democrats that you will run across that are not all that enamored with franklin roosevelt. Dont have anything against him, hes a nice guy, except that when we had the recovery from the great depression, the civilian conservation corps, wpa, those jobs that were created and when they came south they had a little tag on them, whites only. Hat, i remember. I said to them, i dont want to be a part of anything that calls for a recovery and everybody cant recover sidebyside. If we want to do something lets do something to make sure that eople who are whether we keep satisfying people according to their they asked me what i would do and i said this. I said, the Census Bureau says that whenever 20 or more of a community is locked beneath poverty for the last 30 years, that is a persistent poverty community. What we need to do, and joe biden has put this into his platform, that is to say that in his appropriation and health care at least 10 must go into those communities those community that have been in poverty for at least 30 years. We did that in the recovery act in four accounts, and worked amously. They had to go out and compete or it. They got it because they were eligible according to a need. You have to compete against these rich towns that can hire professional grant writers in order to get money from the federal government. They will stay poor. These are the kinds of things i would do. I have said that to the Vice President , and i think if we do just those things i dont want to waste all of your time. Dr. Hamburg i think we appreciate your insights and your passion. I think we only have time for one more question. I asked the question or to be brief questioner to be brief. Rep. Clyburn i think you are asking me for a brief answer. Operator we will take the next question. R. Hamburg are you there . Operator we will take our next question from antonio. A question very quickly. In florida usa today has a network where we are watching the vp pick very closely. It will be historic if it is a woman of color. Val demings is someone we have watched closely. Have you spoken to the Biden Campaign about her and what would you tell the country if she is chosen . I think val demings is a tremendous person and i have known her for a nunc long ime. I have been to church with her, i was a big supporter of hers when she ran for congress the irst time. Her district got reconfigured while she was in it and it was made almost impossible for her to win. She stuck it out and took the loss and did not give up and came back and won the next time. I think she is a fantastic person and i get upset when people tell me that because of her Law Enforcement background as a police chief, that she should be disqualified. I think its a shame. If you ask people to go into Law Enforcement and they excel at what they do, working have to become the chief of police, that is what we thank all of you for joining our meeting. 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