Good afternoon, everybody. Im happy to welcome our audience members and our special guest speakers to the common good. We have an extremely fascinating guest today and one of our very favorite political analyst to operate as our moderator. So we will get right to the conversation. Got a very unusual phenomenon in the 2020 president ial campaign this year. Hugely influential slice of the Republican Party, including longtime conservatives and moderates, have broken with reelecting the leader of their of thety, the president united states, donald trump. This is part of the broader never trumped rebellion that began four years ago with the largely sidelined cadre of appalled republicans, but which has transformed in recent weeks into a potentially Disruptive Force in this years president ial race. Groups such as the Lincoln Project and Republican Voters against trump are using guerrilla tactics and clever ads and then they already be making a big difference this year. We are thrilled to have one of those leaders of these efforts, who has decades of experience as an active voice in republican politics, originally as the Vice President and Communications Director and later with her own Successful Communications firm. More recently, sarah has served on the board of all cabin republicans, but became a never trump her in 2016. She is now the executive director of Republican Voters against trump as well as republicans for the rule of law. She has also headed up defending democracy together, which advocated for trumps impeachment. To help us out, we are really honored, im so happy to have you, a very good friend, political analyst, susan to host and moderate this conversation. Susan is a new yorkbased republican strategist who has advised dozens of candidates in new york and elsewhere, including Rudy Giuliani for whom she served as deputy commissioner, and also an advisor to governor andrew cuomo. Of course many of you will be familiar with her from her many appearances on msnbc. We thank you both so much for being with the common good today, now i pass the baton to susan to lead our conversation. Thank you, susan. Susan thank you so much, patricia. And sarah, thank you for all you do in fighting the good fight for and support republicans. I get to say that because i am a moderate. Byently there was a story susan glaser. On thing that stood out was, she , and you stande up and like, lets stop talking, lets do something. So you did. The tell us where you are in this process. Sound morekes it cinematic than it was. As i recall, is actually ill crystal who was talking and i started interrupting him, like why dont we do something besides just sitting in these sads with a bunch of republicans, and figure out how to fight back. I will admit to some naivety early on. I really thought that republicans the Republican Party writ large, Susan Collins, lisa murkowski, the lindsey grahams, that they were going to be real guardrails and that it was going to be a tough four years, but i thought we were weto find a way to were larry hogan was open about the fact that he considered it. But none of it came to fruition. 2020, one going into thing i did early on was say, everyone is asking, what happened to the Republican Party . What is going on . My background in communications led me to believe that we can find out. What i call reluctant truck voters, people who had voted for doing trump agree hes very bad job. Ultimately what would persuade them to stop supporting donald trump. Which brings us to this moment where, the thing that i found, after doing three years of these focus groups is, the thing that people found most persuasive was not these abstracts are policy scandals, its not the ads theyre using and things like that. Its real republicans just like them, expressing the anxiety that they all talk about having around donald trump. Not just that they think he should get off twitter, they think he is erratic. They think he is a problematic character. Dates think he has good qualities, things i probably would not give him credit for having, but just in talking to for example, they would say i voted for him, but i felt like i needed to take a shower, or, i went home and cried. Im like, ok, that is a person who can be persuaded to not vote for donald trump again in 2020. Thought about how the personal stories really moved people. And i thought, how do you build a product people who voted for trump and 2016, talking about why they wont do it again in 2020. So we really built Republican Voters against trump with that research in mind. It was hard at first, and im sorry if im just going on about it. It took us probably three or four months to get the first 100, because people sort of didnt know what we were doing, people were nervous about going on camera and expressing how they felt. But once we got the first 100 and we launched, now they are just pouring in. We have almost 500 and we got like 30 today so far. Theyre just coming in in droves. I feel like theres a lot of republicans who havent been doing what ive been doing the last three and a half years, which is constantly talking about why this is wrong, and theyve been sort of struggling with it in their own communities, and now they want to get it off their chest. Were getting close to 500 of these testimonials and were about to spin 15 million in the swing states showing these real stories of soft Trump Supporters to see if we can knock off, even if its just 3 . Donald trump one, everybody three states by 77,000 votes. Thats fewer people than are packed into an nfl game. If we can pull 1 , 3 , and frankly, i think we can do better than that, then we can give joe biden a landslide victory. And i think joe biden needs a landslide victory, because i think thats probably the only way to get republicans to sort of on the fact that this was a mistake, this whole thing was a mistake. I definitely want to get into the nuts and bolts of the campaign, but for those people doing the testimonials, and i know ive gotten this question asked a lot, people say youre not happy with the Republican Party, why not become a democrat . Mean, i would become an independent before i would become a democrat. Im not particularly tribal about politics. I have a set of things that i believe, and a lot of them just aligned more closely with what traditional republicans believe. I believe that free markets are good and have lifted millions of people out of poverty. I think personal responsibility is a virtue that we should cultivate in our society, whatever. I think we should not allow runaway debts and deficits. I was here first. Up after being spinning most of his life as a democrat, and suddenly saying im here to hijack the publican party. I cant believe people just decided to roll over and say we dont believe in free trade anymore . The experience has been really wild. Its like the invasion of the body snatchers. Im not going to change that. That being said, any day i will say taxfor people who cuts and judges as some kind of reason for donald trump, there are not enough in the world to allow for person who is actively subverting the foundations of democracy and the rule of law. Those things take precedent. I believe in liberal democracy is more than i believe in marginal tax rates. I believe one is much more important than the other. Its not that im going to going become a democrat. Im going to fight for the things i believe in, and at this moment, that means fighting donald trump. The nuts andinto bolts. When we look at issue can and there was a turnout problem for Hillary Clinton because she just so underperformed barack obama. When we look at wisconsin, sure, donald trump im sorry, michigan, donald trump did do better than romney. Whats interesting is, in wisconsin, donald trump received 2000 year votes than romney. Romney. Fewer votes than it really was the democrat candidate that kind of blew it there. The pennsylvania, and that is your stomping grounds, is a whole different category. Because Hillary Clinton basically came just shy of obama intes of barack 2012. So it really was trump finding these voters, we call them the forgotten voters. Of 240,000 more votes than mitt romney. That is huge. I think people mistake the difference between michigan and wisconsin versus pennsylvania, and i think it is that pennsylvania stock that trump is trying to duplicate, not just in pennsylvania, but in other places. Youre absolutely right. This is how donald trump pulled a rabbit out of a hat in 2016. He found voters that werent really didnt vote otherwise. Is something that comes up in focus groups all the time. Its such a blind spot for politicos, which i have people sell the time, why did you vote for donald trump . Well, hes a great businessman. I watch them for eight years on the apprentice. I always forget that he lived in peoples living rooms for eight years as this carefully curated, confident businessman and fired Gilbert Gottfried or whatever. He became this vision for people of like what a decisive businessman is, and those people who maybe werent formally involved in politics but were fans of his came out of the woodwork and voted for him. The reason im skeptical that he can duplicate that strategy is that, number one, weve seen that playbook. Democrats are not leaving anything on the table in terms of turnout this time. The differentof word, im going to say cocky, and overconfident. They were way too overconfident in 20, thinking that Hillary Clinton had it in the bag. I constantly am thinking right trips to wisconsin. They were spending money in arizona, which i would agree with right now, but i wish they had spent at arizona money in michigan. There are just things that were totally aft on the table. Number one, the democrats will not make that mistake again. And then number two, there were a lot of people, independence broke heavily for donald trump. Think thearound i independents are going to break against donald trump in the polling shows that. Donald trump has to run on a record now to be he cant just run around saying im going to build a wall with mexico and they are going to pay for it. Has personal consequences for peoples lives. Their lives are not better than they were four years ago. We are all living in our basement not living in them, but working in them. The personal consequences to their lives now, if you ask the reagan question, are you better off today than you were four years ago . The answer for most people is no. I dont think hes going to be able to generate the enthusiasm this time around for people to shake things up. I think people are more likely to say i would like somebody who knows what they are doing because things are really problematic right now. I would think that suburban women, especially, are your prime targets. Especially where we are today, because nothing took down donald trump yet. Charlotte didnt do it, mueller didnt do it, impeachment didnt do it. Somehow i think that suburban women, trying to figure out if they should send their children to school, and listening to donald trump is a tough choice. We saw some of this in 2018, but what are your thoughts on 2020 . Just on that 2018 point, which is a really good one, i completely agree. I think the story is women. Not quite that, because also its coupled with, if there is high africanamerican turnout, coupled with the total crating thedefection of women to Republican Party, i cant think of a stupider mistake that may. The suburbs absolutely means women. One of the things i think is such an Interesting Data point on 2018, you look at someone whos in a place where donald trump won by seven points in 2016. So in 2018, she wins by four points, which means that she had to have picked up people who voted for donald trump. Now she is in a very vulnerable seat here in 2020, and i dont know whether she will hold onto it or not, but i do think it shows just how many people, and i will tell you, i do all these focus groups, you focus on women and you say you are only looking is filled with women who voted for him and 2016 by 2018 there were so disgusted and so horrified be i him, they couldnt wait to go vote for the democrat in between 18. I saw that shift happen more or less in real time. The gender gap turned into a gender chasms 2020 has approached. Women,t collegeeducated but workingclass women. He has an 11 point line so far with noncollege white women. Each cant haul those women in those more rural areas if he cant hold those women in those , itsural areas, and also such a simple challenge to them. In the middle of a pandemic, health crisis, economic and racial crisis, do you think theres another 100,000 people who are like, i love what im seeing and i want to go out and vote for this guy again . So we know that those suburban women, especially, are gettable, as you call them. But can they be turned away by what would be perceived as being a too liberal vp choice by joe biden . Thats a really good question. Heres what i think. I think there was a reason donald trump really wanted to run against bernie sanders. Thats the only way he was going to hold on to the suburbs. I actually think if he did run against bernie sanders, i dont know in this particular environment how things would change, but in the suburbs, he would have been able to hold onto a lot more suburban voters. I think this is a tricky one for joe biden. Normally i would say a Vice President ial picked doesnt matter that much, but, of course, with his advanced age, i think it means considerably more than normal. And also, i think theres a lot of people who are looking for the Vice President ial picked as a signal for which way the party is going to go. The Democratic Party is having a similar struggle to the publican party. They have to hold off their more populist far flank. If joe biden pick somebody who is perceived to be extremely liberal, i think it gives the republicans something to feed off him about. I think theres some room for attrition with some of those suburban voters. That being said, when im talking to people and focus groups, if you want some of the videos, the testimonials, people say i would vote for a tomato can or a tuna fish sandwich. Theres a lot of animate objects people say that would vote for. So there is at least some percentage that i dont think is insignificant that are completely out, they would be happy to vote for joe biden and whoever he picks as Vice President , but i dont think it is meaningless. I think it does have meaning who he chooses. Choiceollow up on the vp and how he should be running his campaign, we saw some polling , there is this talk hopemaybe he should just to run the board. I happen to think that his best strategy is to get to 270. Do you think there is a danger of him following too much in the Hillary Clinton playbook, looking to expand for 300 plus which, if hes 270, goes for that bigger number, he could really start hurting those 3 or 2 of the people that we talked about just now. I think that is right. A piece yesterday arguing against the idea in the New York Times saying there are bunch of democratic operatives pushing joe biden to get involved in texas. I wrote a piece saying please do not do that. In texas, theres 30 million people, it is a planet unto itself. Outbiden, while he has been fundraising donald trump in the past months, he is way behind in cash on hand. He has a little more than half of what trump has. These playing with a small stack. To spread it around the board in a place like texas to go for some political realignment type election, i think is too far. Certainly invest in North Carolina and arizona. If youre going to invest in a massive state, going to florida where the fox news polling has him down by nine points. I do think there is a risk for democrats dont have the same resources, because they went through a tough primary in that same amount of time. I will tell you one thing, i would accept texas as a play if somebody like Mike Bloomberg were to jump in and find 300 million in the couch cushions, thats a different story. Theres not that much time left on the clock. Hes got to play to win. That means making sure that pennsylvania and wisconsin and michigan are sewn up, go into florida, look at arizona and North Carolina, and if you really want a stretch play, where into georgia there are two senate races at least. Ive not understood the texas thing. You shouldnt trust the polling, you should look at it, it should be a guide, something we factor in, but you cant take it as gospel by any stretch of the imagination. I always just tell people, run like you are 10 points behind every day. If your team points behind, youre putting your money into the main states that you can win to make sure you get to 270. I got a lot of grief from the democrats when i said dont go into texas. Theyre like, who wants to listen to this republican tell us why we shouldnt press our advantage in texas . For me, trump is an existential threat to democracy. So i will take no risk. Theres no room for gambling. You have to do the thing thats going to make sure you get to 270. If biden takes michigan, which the Trump Campaign has written off, all he has to do is pick up florida. If he just focused on florida, that gets him over to 70. You mentioned georgia where theres a Competitive Senate race. How do you balance the need, i would call it, to destroy trump and really knock him down versus the need to hold onto a senate majority, republican majority . Is it worth losing the senate majority, and if donald trump goes down, is it going to go down with him, and is it worth it . Andhis is a good question, a tough one, that ive thought a lot about. Incredibly had this soft spot for Susan Collins. She led the fight to repeal dont ask dont tell. I know that she is like the one its been hard for me to watch all the moderate publicans all get run out by donald trump. Decision not to do senate races in what were doing. We are very focused on donald trump. That being said, theres absolutely value in the Republican Party learning a hard lesson about what theyve done with donald trump. I think the key is for joe biden to run up historic margins, and , i may be fined of Susan Collins, but im not find of margaret sally. Its bad at all for the Republican Party to learn the lesson that you nominate a guy like donald trump , he decimates the party. Thats what you get for it. So im a little of two minds but openly decided the best thing for us to do strategically, since we wanted people to participate in our programs are not necessarily going to vote for democrats. Not going to vote for donald trump. I voted for him last time, but i wont do it again. You cant put together that kind of coalition if youre also doing the senate. Because frankly, we want people people, we want those too. There is a strategic answer to that and also an emotional answer. We talk about the future of the Republican Party, assuming donald trump loses in november, i have complete faith in our nation coming back stronger and better. I dont know if we can say the same about the Republican Party. We knew what to do in 2012. We laid it all out. There was an autopsy. We needed to build coalitions, not narrow our focus. The party picked the wrong person, for a whole host of reasons. And donald trump never cared about the Republican Party. So what happens today after election day, assuming donald trump loses . Does our party have the future we once thought it had . We have better news for you on this front. First of all, i think theres some it depends answers, and some of it is like a margin of Donald Trumps loss will matter. Politics being what it is, people want to have power, and republicans will want to be in charge again at some point. They will recognize that they can build a Winning Coalition just on white workingclass men and have a regional party. So theres opportunity there to have a fight for the soul of the party. I will say that the problem with donald trump, hes just not going anywhere. Lissy is in jail, which i think is not off the table entirely, but if he is not in jail, what is he doing . Hes never cared that much about beating democrats. He wants to own the Republican Party. He wants to be the king maker in the party. I dont have a ton of love for jeff sessions, but donald trump is running him out because he did the honorable thing and recused himself in the situation of the special counsels investigation. So donald trump wants that role. . So why didnt he pick a better candidate against jones in that case . Trump doesnt care about the party or about the party winning. He cares about his own power and influence. The idea that george w. Bush goes off to live in texas and really doesnt stick his head out too much, thats not what donald trump is going to do. Hes never going to stop talking or tweeting. He will probably have shows for and tuckerjared carlsen for the future. If that is the future for the Republican Party and donald trump maintains that role, then the party is pretty doomed, and im not as optimistic. I think the reason for the landslide victory needs to be that the party says to him, this guy doesnt get to have a role in trust to shut him down. Thats a tough thing to do, the world being what it is. What do you think nikki haley is doing right now . Is she distancing herself from donald trump . Im dying to see if shes going to be at the convention. We have covered so much, sarah, and thank you. Theres a lot of questions coming up, so i think i will throw it back to patricia whos going to manage the q and a. Is that right, patricia . She is just unmute in herself. Patricia that was amazing, that was really fascinating, no matter what party you are part of. Rick sullivan wants to ask his question . Rick, unmute yourself. Earlier, the fact that trump needs to be destroyed in a landslide in order to be dislodged. Implicit in that is the fact that he may not leave office peaceably and you need to pry him out with a crowbar. What is your view on that . Theres a lot of people who believe that he will not leave easily. Also a great question. Something i think about a lot. It is one of the reasons lets say worstcase scenario is donald trump winning. The next worstcase is him losing very narrowly. This election is going to look different. We are going to be in the pandemic and theres going to be way more vote by mail and absentee ballots. Election night is not going to look like a traditional Election Night, likely. If you look at some of the primaries, you dont find out the results for a week. My biggest concern is that it is a very narrow victory for joe biden and yet theres always ballots to be counted and donald trump has already laid the groundwork to Start Talking about the election was rigged, people were ballot harvesting, sewing distrust in the outcome. Lets say theres one instance of an irregularity on Election Night and donald trump is able to use the levers of the federal government to do i dont know what. Fear aboutave less the idea of him losing decisively and not going. If it is notabout as clearcut and being a confusing election because it looks different. Allen, are you trying to ask a question . Stan. Have a question from do you want to ask a question . Hi. Belief i want to state for the record, i am a lifelong republican from when i was growing up, so im as liberal as they get, but my question or my scenario is, the only way trump can win is either by a putin maneuver or just a miracle happening in the pandemic. What im concerned about is, biden comes in and cant do anything in the government because the senate is still republican, so nothing gets accomplished and it becomes the democratic failure. Feelu see that, and do you that move the country forward in a way that restores us, that the in holdingre better the two branches of congress and the presidency . Im not sure. I think it depends on which republican senators are still there. If youve got collins and murkowski it also depends on what he tries to do. If it is trying to pass the green new deal, that will be frustrated by having a very narrow senate majority. Would be aink it very narrow senate majority. It depends on who is there, but if youve got Susan Collins and lisa murkowski, mitt romney, some of these other folks that are looking to find some corrective action something i think is going to happen pretty early on, there is to be a bunch of like there was with, not , whereer, after nixon they do a bunch of rule of law reforms. Like you cant put your kids in the white house, cant just install them in the white house and have one of their spouses running security without clearance. I think a lot of republicans would support that. I think you would get support for a variety of things. But as a conservative one of the things i like is for people to actually negotiate and for there to be more incremental change. To susansack question, i want donald trump to be thoroughly repudiated and that probably means him losing the senate as well so they learn that lesson. Think thee time, i problem with totally unchecked Democratic Power running really hard left, you are looking at a short time where people dont start looking back to the Republican Party as the option to put the brakes on that Democratic Party. I would like the Republican Party to have a little more time to sort themselves out before they have anointed Tucker Carlsen to be the brakes on the crazy democratic agenda. Scenariohe best case is it is incredibly narrow and theres compromise being forced. I just wanted to jump in. One other thought. Having a republicancontrolled senate, narrowly controlled, is a perfect spoil for biden. Hes not extreme. He is more moderate. So it allows him to say, i couldnt go that far. Place hes actually more comfortable. So there is that to consider. Great point. In the same vein, what do you think would be the consequence, or what is the possibility of trump finding a way to fight biden. He doesnt seem to find a frame as of yet to really hurt biden, but hes searching for one. Is there one that you think he would be most vulnerable to . Being too liberal . Biden has beenk particularly vulnerable to most of these things. He just ran in a bloody primary as the most moderate in a batch of democrats. It is hard to paint him as a liberal extremist. I do think the Biggest Issue for biden is the Vice President ial pick. I dont think trump can lay a glove on him. Everything trump does ands up looking like projection. Trump has been weak on china. Are we going to get into a debate over mental acuity . Donald trump should not be in a fight with anybody over mental acuity. When they go after this senility argument, it actually hurts them with a lot of the older voters. They tried to run on economy. Now they are trying to run on culture wars. The problem is, most americans are thinking, why isnt there a plan . It is not as fun when you cant own a car or a house because of double digit unemployment. He just hasnt been able to get a toehold against biden. Whatd trumps right now, do they want to happen . They want Elizabeth Warren. They want somebody they can really say, that is the Democratic Party we told you to be scared of. Im not entirely confident it will work, but that is their best case in area and hope. The mistake would be going to farleft with a candidate who is old enough that someone could think, this person could be president. Nancy collins, you are next. I was wondering, who would you choose as Vice President . You are making me go on the record with a pick . I thinkhard because personal bias is wrapped up in this. I would have told him to probably go with Amy Klobuchar. Of a sense of what the profile should be. Joe biden has been a Vice President , so he knows what it takes to be a good Vice President. Loyalty, somebody you can get along with, who is going to carry out your agenda, and i think that if he picks somebody far from him ideologically, that is a recipe for disaster. I think he would be most comfortable with somebody like Amy Klobuchar. Maybe kamala harris. With do think you end up someone who is basically running for president the moment she becomes the Vice President. Susan rice has been tossed out. Not a bad choice, but then everybody gets to relitigate benghazi. My choices are all people like gina raimondo. I think Gretchen Whitmer is a pretty interesting one. Shes handled the pandemic well in the eyes of her constituents. She could be good. He should choose is cory booker. I want there to be a female in the white house as much as anybody, but cory booker is right for this moment. He would have made a stellar vp. But biden has locked himself in. When Amy Klobuchar kind of stepped back and said, i think it needs to be a woman of color, she basically took Elizabeth Warren out with her, which shows you how vicious Amy Klobuchar can be. If you are really narrow in terms of a woman of color who has experienced at a pretty high level, then you are down to very few people. I get sort of taken by the new cycle. Look at keisha lance bottoms, isnt she interesting . But she is a mayor. She is a mayor that we just saw give one awesome speech on cnn during the protest. I dont know if that necessarily says we should make her Vice President. It is actually a pretty tough decision for him. Sound, i think, went out. I thought maybe we were frozen. Patricia, were you saying something . Patricia is frozen. Can someone pick Bernard Schwartz . No problem. Bernard, you can speak. Bernard, you are muted. Do you need me hello . We can hear you. Democrat,lifelong have always been and always will be a democrat, i think. I have to tell you, i am very worried about this election for a lot of reasons. Theres three months left to go. In sure that trump will come with another package, maybe a trillion dollars, to help the people who are unemployed, and he will have a good portion of their votes. Im concerned about the fact that democrats do not have a spokesperson. From mr. Thing i get saying, thisckage is what he said yesterday. Goodnk trump will have news or fair news about the epidemic. All in all, this is not going to be a runaway for the democrats. We are not geared up for a good heavy fight. You need a fighter. Biden can be so, but he has to be alive and he has to be out in front. Hes the one who has to be there with the new ideas, with the issues we have to face as a country. Dont kid yourself. This is not going to be a blow some republicans are going to join us. It is going to be tough and we are not here for it. That is the right attitude to have. Do last thing anybody should is get overconfident. I think after 2016, we should channel exactly what you just said. , how hesabout biden been handling himself, on one hand this election is going to be a referendum on donald trump in many ways, so joe biden is strategically sticking his head it seems ton be working in the sense that donald trump is just self immolating. That said, when i talk to people who dont like donald trump, they are really on the fence about potentially voting for biden. The biggest thing is they are like, i dont know that much about him. What does he stand for . For somebody who has been in politics for years and is the most recent Vice President , he is pretty undefined with voters. At some point he is going to have to do more to present a vision that gives people a reason to vote for him, not just against trump. Going back to the earlier questions, what could joe biden do to mess things up, if he comes out and starts demonstrating that he really isnt up to it for some reason i dont just mean one bad debate, but i think you can look at joe biden and think he lost his fastball a little bit, but i think people are willing to accept that because donald trump isnt playing the same sport, but i do think hes going to have to perform at some point. Weve got time for one quick question. Kathy, are you ready . Im ready, thank you. One that john had also asked. Do you think theres any chance that trump will see that hes going to lose and resign . No, i dont think so. Trump willt donald squeeze every last ounce of juice out of everybodys attention being on him, number one. That is just his psychological profile. He pulled the rabbit out of the hat last time and i think he believes in his own potential magic. So i think he will stay and do that. President er off as for his own legal problems that he is facing. There are a lot of pending cases against him. The Supreme Court came forward with a couple other things. He is much better when he can exert executive privilege. I think you are going to have to pry the presidency out of his hands with a landslide victory. Think, of all the conspiracy theories of what crazy thing could happen, i think the crazy thing is trump picking nikki s at theapping vp convention. It is because donald trump is a showman. He doesnt like the script right now. The narrative is bad for him. Joe biden is going to have a and donald trump needs to change the conversation. Ive watched nikki haley very closely. She was high on my list. Closer moved closer and toward donald trump in a way that seems very strategic. I cant quite figure that out. Maybe not haley because i dont know that she would do it. I think shes got a shot at being the nominee in 2024. If i was going to buy into a crazy thing that could happen, that is what i would put my money on. What about Tammy Duckworth . Should havenks, i talked about her. Duckworthow tammy particularly well. Like a lot of the people that keep getting floated. Handled theat she Tucker Carlsen knock on her extremely well. Ind of eviscerated him but i also thought her answer, the first thing that got her in trouble was not taking a complete and clear stand around people taking down the washington monument. Probably ans impressive person and i do think there is a tendency to pick federal candidates. I think they like picking senators more than mayors and governors. I just dont know, besides the she is a war hero, what do people know about her . She is an interesting choice. My colleague is kind of high on her as a potential pack. But i dont know. This are out of time, but one, i really hate to end. It is so fascinating. , i really appreciate sarahs answers because they are questions i struggled with myself, we have to keep focused on what the goal is. It is 270 for joe biden. It is to take down trump and hopefully do it as decisively as we can. But dont forget, we might be counting ballots for two or three weeks after election day. But lets beat donald trump. That is priority number one. Thank you, sarah. I could listen all day to your brilliant and wish you good luck with your work. Susan, you were just wonderful. I hope we have you back soon again. Thank you so much. I hope this is an opportunity for us to keep a sense of and engaging in our democracy. Please come next week. Weve got tom rogers and his daughter, who is an attorney. Im going to talk about social media, the 2020 election, congressman Eric Swalwell on the House Committee investigation and other things hes been working on, retired colonel chris the, with former secretarygeneral johnson on the neverending war in afghanistan. Thank you. You were just fabulous. Thank you, susan. We will hopefully see you again. Thank you. Attorney general william barr testified earlier today on the justice departments mission and current programs. He spoke before the House Judiciary Committee and today we will show you the entire hearing on cspan. Live coverage of three key hearings this week, wednesday at noon eastern on cspan3. Zuckerberg,mark sundar pichai, and tim cook testified before a house judiciary subcommittee on online competition. Cspan3, secretary of state mike pompeo before the Senate ForeignRelations Committee to review the fiscal year 2021 budget request. Cspan2, dr. Anthony fauci, dr. Robert the admiral for the house subcommittee on a National Comprehensive plan on the coronavirus pandemic. Watch live coverage wednesday and thursday on cspan3 and friday on cspan2. Live streaming and ondemand viewing at cspan. Org or listen on the go with the cspan radio app. The body of congressman john lewis lying in state at the east front of the u. S. Capitol. A Memorial Service was held yesterday for the 80yearold civil rights leader. Lewis led the marches across the Edmund Pettus bridge which became known as bloody sunday. Mr. Lewis was first elected in 1986. Is 1998 autobiography walking with the wind