Of the outofcontrol spending we saw in 2008 and 2009 with Bank Bailouts and stimulus bills. We were upset with the outofcontrol growth of government. Instarted doing tea parties february of 2009. On aprile on tax day 15, 2009. We didar in september, the taxpayer march in d. C. We have had wins and losses. When we look at spending right now in washington, we are concerned. We think it is time to stop the spending we are seeing right now. Holidaypayroll tax which i understand is off the table. I think it would be the right thing to do. Work to help get americans back to work so that they are able to provide for their families. Host the Washington Post headline, u. S. Budget deficit shattered onemonth record in june as spending outpaced revenue by 864 billion. A huge spending increase led to the deficit. The deficit has breached 2. 7 trillion. Do you hold the president responsible . Guest what we are seeing now is largely because of the unprecedented pandemic and the response to the pandemic. What has watched happened with the pandemic, i have not been taking a lot of swipes as far as spending goes at democrats or republicans. I think it is too much. I have felt that way from the beginning as we begin spending so much to respond to the pandemic. The people in washington are doing what they always do. They wring their hands and worry and they spend more money. Im concerned because the debt is so high. That means our children and grandchildren are going to wind up being responsible for this debt. On top of that come our children and grandchildren are not in school. The education they need. That is going to put them at a disadvantage later in life. We are giving it to our children in a onetwo punch. Host when republicans held both the house, senate and white house and the first couple years of the trump administration, did they spend responsibly . Guest even during that time they continued to spend. We sell reductions in government regulation, which is good because that reigns in some of the size of government, but spending is still very high and has been. One of the things i hope, should President Trump be reelected and i know we are looking at massive spending right now. I understand that. I think that he needs to find a way to get a balanced Budget Amendment passed. He needs to find a way to get us toward a balanced budget. Winshat be part if you a second term, turn that into part of a legacy he can leave. I dont know that he can do that but it is something i very much want. To people within the administration about that. It up so often they get tired of hearing me mention it. Host a group of republicans have formed a group called project lincoln, opposing the president s reelection bid. This new ad they put together on the president not being conservative. [video clip] seal turnedx Navy Emergency room physician. I am an american combat veteran and a conservative. I dont agree with joe biden on many issues, but we agree that we are a nation of laws, and the constitution is sacred. The document type 54 and some of my friends died for. Is foring our freedoms the mentally conservative. President trump shows no such respect for the constitution. He has used cronies to disrespect the freedom of assembly, due process and state rates. Joe biden will conserve the rule of law. He will conserve the American Dream as we promised to our children. Trump is weak. Trump is not conservative. It is the most easily fixable problem in america today. A vote for joe biden is a vote for our constitution. Host Jenny Beth Martin, when i listen to that guest i agree that i love the constitution. I want to the rule of law to matter. What we saw at the end of the Obama Administration and throughout much of president thats presidency is people who hold the levers of power were investigating his campaign, spying on his campaign and doing all they could to ignore the rule of law. They violated what they were supposed to do in proper procedures when they went before the fisa court. They did not respect the rule of law. T was the robot in height that was the obamabiden ministration. When we look at portland and bidene, i have not seen speaking out and condemning the violence, the takeover and destruction of private property, and the lack of respect for rule of law. To say that biden respect that, i have yet to see him condemn it. I dont think that meshes. He has not condemned what happened with the improper use of the fisa court to President Trump. I think that person is not right. I understand this is going to wind up being a leftright issue and it depends on how you view the world command where you get , ithere you get your news does not add up. I do not think President Trump is weak. I think he is strong. He has been a good president and will be a good president if he wins reelection. Host you will be voting for the president . Guest i will be voting for the president. Nationalernate to the convention, had i been a delegate i would have cast a vote for him. Host will you be going to jacksonville . Guest we wont. I dont think there is going to be a jacksonville portion at this point. I am not going to be in jacksonville for that. Host what about North Carolina . What have you been told about how this will play out . Guest i dont know exactly what is going to be happening in North Carolina. I am not positive about that. Often, ie changing so dont know. The Republican National convention is trying to figure out what is going on. It was just thursday or friday of last week, not even a week ago, the president said he would not be going down to jacksonville. I think everyone is scrambling to figure out what is going on. The chairman of the party in georgia, david schaefer, he found out the president would not be in jacksonville when everyone else did during the briefing. Is scrambling to make adjustments and to notify everybody. Host lets get to calls. Charlotte in tuscaloosa, alabama. Before you talk, turn off the television. Caller just did. Host go ahead. Caller my name is charlotte. Thatted to ask ms. Martin she is talking about spending the nation is going through from the government. There were signs i was looking newscastsan and other that said defund the police. You need to defund trump and his frivolous activities on his golf courses and resorts down in florida. That is a lot of money being taken away from the people that need it. Those in health care, the vaccines he is rushing, i hope we get it because so many of my people i am a black woman. A problem with the democrats, but this is ridiculous what we are being led into. Authoritarianism. This man wants all power. I did not vote for a king. I voted to be a christian in my heart. Host Jenny Beth Martin . Guest i think there are things we can agree on. I am also a christian. I know we can agree on that. Was president obama president , his family took vacations and they went around the world. Speakeraker pelosi was not now, but the first time she was speaker, some people were upset because she was taking airplanes military airplanes or whatever to go from washington dc washington, d. C. To san francisco. People on the right complained about that spending. I have been reluctant to complain about that kind of spending when it happened to democrats my and also have not done that with President Trump. I think sometimes when you are the leader or even the speaker its nice that people are happy that trump is not taking the salary, but for the tea party, you took two salaries, one is a consultant and one is the president and i wondered why you were against the puerto rico bankruptcy restructuring and against people trying to save peoples homes, their mortgages, in 2008, when you and your likend owed hundreds, 500,000 worth it you took the feed to restructure your business and trump has taken bankruptcy many times. I dont stand this, it doesnt make sense. I urge people to research who they are supporting. Guest thank you very much. I have taken a salary, i do take a salary when i work for the super pac versus four a 501 c four, there are legal reasons why i have to make sure im being paid appropriately and from the right organization. Thats part of why it seems that there is more than one source of income, because there is. My,ar as what happened with my exhusband and me, we went through financial crisis and we did file bankruptcy. When you Say Something about people keeping their houses, im not sure exactly what you said there, but i will just tell you what happened with us. We filed a bankruptcy as we did not take the fannie mae or freddie mac loan that was offered to us to stay in a house that we could no longer afford. In fact we were offered that after filing bankruptcy and after the bankruptcy was complete. For whatever reason, somehow in the bankruptcy we did not fill out the paperwork that would have allowed us to keep our house and we could not even afford to reopen the bankruptcy to adjust the bank the paperwork and we realized that if we couldnt afford to reopen it, we couldnt afford to be in the house. We started over, we lost cars, rented houses, i still rent a home. This money and refused to take it because we did not think it was right for our neighbors to pay for a house that we could no longer afford. In fact we were cleaning our neighbors homes during that time in order to pay for utilities and to pay for things to get us back on our feet. He had a business that failed and when a business fails there is a legal structure in place in order to file bankruptcy in this country. That existed when he started the business and it existed when he ended the business. Individuals, we filed individually. As far as puerto rico, there is not a structure in place for a state or territory to file bankruptcy. They need to be responsible with , with the, with their taxpayer dollars. Just like i didnt think it was right for neighbors to pay for items i could no longer afford, i dont think its right for people in other states to pay to bail out one state or territory that can no longer afford the obligations they had. Chad, new york, democratic caller. Guest high, jenny. Thanks for taking the time. Im having some issues trying to connect the dots between what the republicans are saying but people, support black Martin Luther king, invoking know,e has done to, you really perpetuate this sense of overall wellbeing with personal, but from the twitter account of the president today we have one tweet after another of basically fomenting racial wars. Whether it is retweeting Trump Supporters who are White Supremacists or whether it is not going to john lewis when he lies in state. The list goes on and on. Know how theo party itself is ok when the leader of the nation is basically inciting civil race wars. Thank you. Completely disagree with you, i dont he is inciting a civil race war. You are the one judging people based on the color of their skin. Im not. Im not invoking Martin Luther king. I grew up in the cap county, and later in floyd county, georgia. Martin luther kings county was right next door in fulton. , it isnt something that i invoke, its something i was taught in that we strive really hard in the city of atlanta to work to make sure that we are looking beyond the color of somebodys skin. It Martin Luther king jr. Was from my home city. It means a lot, whether we are white or black, we understand the sacrifices that that man and his family made. I do the best that i can to live up to the vision that he had for america. Host mavis, fort lauderdale, florida, independent caller i wanted to independent. Caller i wanted to ask miss martin in reference to the president , when he ran for election he said that he wont have time, criticized mr. Obama for going to a golf course. He said that when he was running for president he would be so busy, he wont have time to go to the golf course. I understand that hes been on the golf course more than 90 of the time hes been in office. Taxpayer money pays for the trips to go backwards and forwards. She mentioned the obama family going on holidays. She checked that, mr. Obama paid for his holidays. Mr. Trump, however, has five ,ids and when they travel thats a lot of money for the taxpayer to have to cover all of them. Secret service to protect all this children. Again, thats a lot of money. But now that it comes to helping jobs who are out of their because of covid, the republicans cant find money to help out the regular folks in the country. We can pay for mr. Trump and his family to fly all around the country. What happened to the wall that mexico was supposed to pay for that the taxpayers are now paying for . Guest first, President Trump has not spent 90 of his time on a golf course, thats just simply not accurate. I am focused on what he has produced as president , so that is where im focused. Before the pandemic we had the best economy that ive ever seen in my adult life. We had the lowest unemployment that i have ever seen. It was a historic low unemployment across all demographics. It was good for america. I want us to be able to get back to that went. Its good for all American Families. Because then you have the ability to have more of what you want in life. Whether it is Vacation Time or things you want to buy or just more time with your family, you have more opportunity at that point. I think that you mentioned something you mentioned something about the secret service and the president s family and protecting them, again, when the people vote for elected people, we have an obligation to make sure they are protected and i dont have a problem with that. I didnt have a problem with it with president obama. I wont have a problem with it with a future president or with speaker pelosi. Its what we need to do. Its just not something we argue about. There was one other point, i believe that you said something about republicans not caring about the average american who is working hard in this country in the midst of the pandemic or maybe who lost their job. That simply is not correct. When we look at the spending bills that have already happened that have passed, republicans and democrats voted for these. They were bipartisan bills voted for by republicans and democrats and the arguments that they made, i will tell you i think that there was way too much spending. I understand, i think there was too much spending. Both parties make sure there was unemployment for people who lost their jobs and in fact got paid thenif you were unemployed you may have gotten when you were working. There is an issue with that, but the fact is, it happened. If you owned a business, you had the ability to take a loan out to pay for payroll to keep people employed and continue to pay for their salary and payroll benefits. That helped average American Families so that they did not have to get laid off and they could continue to work and earn a salary. That helps average americans. Both of those programs did. Is, republicans and democrats both in that case, during the midst of the pandemic, the argument is that they were looking out for every american by doing that. Republicans are now proposing to produce the enhanced Employment Benefit from 600 to 200. What do you make of that . There are unintended consequences, sometimes, often times when the government gets too involved. If you pay people more to stay unemployed then they would have been paid to be employed, it toates the odd incentive make people stay say i will stay where i am without being employed and i wont look for a job right now. So, by lowering that, it lessens that a little bit. I do think that there should be a payroll tax holiday. Meaning every single american and Business Owners also would be able to keep more of the money that they earn for a short amount of time so that in essence if you go back to work and you get a job, you have got the payroll tax holiday and you are getting a little bit of a bonus for going back to work while the holiday is going on, i think that that is a good thing to do. It also has a consequence to it. The consequence is urging people to get back to work if you get a bonus for doing that. Is a republican in western massachusetts, you are next. Caller some of the most powerful words i ever heard from an american president was President Trump, 2018, to the u. N. General assembly when he said we will never summon surrender american sovereignty to an unaccountable global bureaucracy. Putting this in the context of today of whats going with the wuhan virus and the coverup, which many believe happened by the world health organization, led by an ethiopian director for which country, ethiopia, china gets much of its natural gas, and oil as well from east africa, which all the globalist say that fossil fuel is bad for us. Etc. Ok . I would like our guest to put this in context. I do appreciate the president standing up to china, trying to create a global alliance, etc. Your comments, please. Appreciate the fact that the president is standing up to china. We have issues there that we will have to address as a nation. Whether we do it now in our own setting of our own terms for it or we do it later when it is forced upon us, if we dont deal with it right now. I appreciate the fact that President Trump and pompeo are working to bring this to the attention of americans and the fact that there are issues going on that we need to address. As far as what happened with the wuhan virus and with covid19 and the world health organization, you are right, President Trump said several years ago that we are not going quoteim not getting the exactly right, but we wont be held to account by an unelected Bureaucratic Organization and i think that that is part of the reason by he has withdrawn from the world health organization. Again, its a bureaucratic, unelected organization. Kevin, marshall, texas, republican. Caller yes, good morning. I have been a Tea Party Protesters since 2000 eight, before president obama took office. [ambient room noise]