Clear politics, that looks at the average of the polls in ohio. Right now with 18 electoral votes, it is essentially a dead heat, with joe biden at 46 on average, the president at 45 . Why is it so competitive, 3. 5 months before the election . Think iteve, i mean, i is there are a number of things happening at once. You are seeing a major shift in the suburbs of ohio that a few decades ago or even a year ago, these suburbs outside of cincinnati, columbus, and cleveland, they were the base of the republican party. That is how a john kasich would have been elected or even a george bush. Those suburbs are now blue. It is largely women voters, old moderate voters, saying this is not a party we were a part of, and they are voting blue. They voted for Sherrod Brown. They voted for democratic mayors and councilmembers, and they are not going to vote for donald trump is november. If you take away the old base of the republican party, and it is tossup or either democrat, which it is, that makes ohio a much tougher state for republicans. That means they have to run up in the rural parts of the state, but these suburbs are a large voting bloc in the state of ohio, some republicans have really lost their old base. The second thing that has happened is the ohio economy, before covid, was already struggling. 2019 was our worst year, jobs wise, and 2009, between january 2019 and 2020, we lost jobs, farm breakroom sees where the highest in a decade, so the whileents bad policies, trade stuff, and broken promises were already impacting ohio in a negative way, including places he did well in 20, because he told them he was going to fight for them. No clearer than the gm land that shut down near youngstown. He told those people he was going to bat for them, dont sell their homes, etc. Gm shut down, moved to mexico. Trump did nothing about it, and then he blamed the workers for it. That story is played out in smaller ways around the state, so whether it is the democrats are fired up which we are suburbs shifting blue, or these economic policies just not working in ohio, that is putting ohio in play, and joe biden ends up being a very good candidate for ohio. Like Sherrod Brown, he can appeal across the state. But even before biden was nominated, donald trump has been underwater for a year. He knows he is spending millions of dollars on tv here, which is something he never wanted to do. He has visited ohio outside of the state, where he has golf courses, because they know they have been in trouble in ohio for a long time. Host this courtesy of the eight. Five thirty leadiden has a onepoint in one survey, a twopoint lead in another survey. David pepper, this is a state the president won by eight percentage points. Pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin became key. Additionally, if you look past elections, ohio has gone republican in a president ial year. Guest yeah, i mean, obviously all of these midwest states are key. We think ohio is clearly in play. We are not surprised at these poll numbers. In 2018, Sherrod Brown won by more than he won in 2012, when obama was on the ballot. The district said he dizzily been drawn the districts had easily been drawn for republican victories, through the process of gende. Gerrymandering. That is the process you see shifting. You see something growing in ohio. 20, as i said, there were some ironton ohio, one named on the West Virginia border, arer rural towns, these towns that trump won by 60, 40, or more. In 2019, we ran Democratic Candidates against incumbent mayors, and we beat them by 60, 40, or more. Working,mics are not and people want to change, so whether it is suburbs, small towns, or big cities, which are more dominated by big democrats than ever, there is a lot of momentum here. Close. Io is always i think joe biden understands this. He is the kind of candidate that can run in all parts of the state. Int as Sherrod Brown won 2018 by more than he did in a blue year, we think ohio is a good fit for joe biden come november. Host we will be asking democrats who they would like to see as joe bidens running mate, so let me ask you that question. Who would be your first choice . Guest so i am not here to tell the Vice President who to pick. There are some wonderful people on that list. I do think making history by choosing an africanamerican woman would be very meaningful and would be one other part of his legacy. I also think that would excite ohio voters, and there are some wonderful people he has got to choose from. I will say, from our standpoint, most of the people on the list have been very good to ohio, have been here a lot. Kamala harris has been here a lot, Stacey Abrams has done a lot for ohio. Respect most of the folks on that list. Outside of that, i will leave it to joe biden to make the best choice. I know they are working very hard on the process. Host we are talking with david pepper, the chair of the Ohio Democratic party and the author of his latest book titled the voter file. Explain. Guest explain the book . Host . Guest yeah, so New York Times in addition host yes, please. Guest yeah, so, you know, in my day job, a lot of the books tackle into the dark money that hurts our system, gerrymandering is such a poison to our system. , it takester file a same approach. There is a lot of talk about the hacking that happened in 2016. Emails were hacked. We know that. Polling data was taken. And then we casually mentioned well, voter data may have been taken, too. What this book doesnt really explain the risk involved if, you know, Foreign Forces were able to get their hands on voter data, a database of voters that campaign used to, you know, inform the way they campaign, essentially that game plan for the end of a campaign, that would be a huge, you know, hype shat could really make a mes of politics. The book it is a fictional book, but when you see the voter files, the voter data that is now available is the crown jewel of a campaign, and this book walks into sort of the worst case scenario, if someone were to do that. But the book tries to get into other key themes, you know, even though we are talking a president ial race, 2020 is also a year where we have statehouse races all over the country. Those statehouse races really matter, because whoever wins those races will draw the district lines for the next decade, and gerrymandering of our legislatures and our congress has been one of the biggest poisons in politics that has made things so partisan, so divisive, so dysfunctional, so, yes, we have to focus on the president ial race, but dont not Pay Attention to your local statehouse races. Because if you care about gerrymandering, who you elect at the statehouse will determine if we continue to have a system of rigged, gerrymandered maps. In a state like ours, our Supreme Court races. The state Supreme Court in the state, like ohio, are also going to be determining if maps are valid. So my book, hopefully, has gotten good reviews. It is a good page turner. I hope it has some twists and turns that people like, but there is also some real discussion about issues people like. Even though, by the way, i am a democrat, i try to write my books in a way that republicans also enjoy them. I have a mix of characters, so for those of your viewers who will be calling the republican line, dont let the fact that im a democrat scare you off from buying a book that i think you will enjoy. Host the voter file is the third in a series by david pepper, who is joining us from cincinnati. As mentioned, his day job is the chair of the Ohio Democratic party. You mentioned outside influence in your fiction book. Robert mueller is writing this morning in the Washington Post , with the headline, roger stone remains a convicted felon, and rightly so. He writes the following, quote host he went on to write host he went on to write host and finally, there is this from Robert Mueller in Washington Post, host and Robert Mueller concludes, saying claims to the contrary are false. Your comments . Guest i am really glad he spoke out. Again, i do not know mr. Mueller at all, but i wish he had been speaking out more since they took his report. I am glad he spoke out. It is very clear that what the president did the other day, as nancy pelosi said, appalling corruption. This is someone who had the goods on trump. This was not about helping a friend, this was about trump helping himself and abusing the commutation process for his own benefit. I just saw on the way in that roger stone is not even eligible to have his sentence commuted until he shows up to prison, and trump did it even before that, so this is just one other example of deep corruption, and i am glad mueller spoke out. I am glad mitt romney spoke out. I am glad to meet in pennsylvania spoke out. Ohio are waiting for a port meant to say one word about this level of corruption. We already saw trump attack them both. A badge of honor for those to come i think. They are willing to speak out against corruption. Everyone should. And to the extent that everyone else is enabling it, they are part of it. This is all something adam he waspredicted when pushing the impeachment case, and mitt romney exhort them, did nothing, and lo and behold, this is exactly what they predicted. I wish i was shocked by this. I am not. I am glad mueller spoke out here i am glad romney and toomey spoke out cute i hope others do as well. One reason i think it is really that democrats not just win by a few points in a few key states, but that we should turn many states blue, ohio, florida, georgia, but we need to send a message that the kind of divisive, race and stuff we are seeing from trump, that this is not america, and we do not want to send that message to the world come about by just a couple of electoral votes. We want to say it loudly, as the world sees, wow, america really did reject this guy, and hopefully we show loudly, by winning decisively in so many places that republicans, who were afraid to speak out until now, because they do not want a mean tweet from donald trump, like he did against romney today, by people who know that this stuff is nonsense, aan their fear currently is donald trump. My hope is this is not a time for small ball politics. This is a time for democrats and many republicans who know better, who are joining the lincoln project, an independents, who know this is not who we are coming to join together and send the loudest message, in the way you do that is you win big. You campaign everywhere. 88 counties in ohio. 50 states in this country. You run up the score. Iss era, after november, over, and we start moving forward. Hopefully the kind of actions we saw about roger stone he is literally thumbing his nose at the country by doing this. Can you imagine . I cant imagine his own advisors told him do this. He does it anyway. He knows that most of these senators will let him do anything they want. They did not just go along with what he did in impeachment, they did not just look the other way, senators like rob portman literally voted to cover up evidence. That was a signal to donald trump, you can do anything you want. We are going to cover it up. We are going to live for you. And my hope is, he is rubbing our nose with this nonsense, that we look at all this, and we decide november 3, suite him out so decisively that never again will someone behave in this way, as our leader, showing the whole world what we have become. Host ann david pepper, you mentioned go big. That is the front page of the New York Times, biden makes a play for the states. Our guess is joining us from ohio. For ohio residents, the number is 202 7488003. It, do rinosssed have any problem with the fact we cut obama, biden, and company spying on my campaign . The whole company ran rampant, wild, and unchecked, lying and leaking all the way. No this is from the president. Caller good morning. Thank you for taking my call. I want to speak about donald trump in general, that he had nobody no political background whatsoever. Power, power, power. He did noty, and want to be president. In his own words, i want to be just like kim jongun. He loves vladimir putin. People need to realize what he is all about. He wants to be a dictator. He has no leader, he is just all. Bout power andy singer, entertainer megan traynor, she had a song outcome i know youre lying, your lips are moving, that is all about donald trump. Mali who iss from joining us from just north of you in cleveland, ohio. Good morning. Caller hi, david pepper. You mentioned that women are going to turn our state blue. I believe you, but then the pandemic happened to it we are trapped in our homes with our children. Some of us try to work fulltime from home. Stillondering if you are counting on women to power the shift blue, and how you plan to keep us mobilized, engaged, and i want an assurance that you are still counting on us and we can be there. Host thank you, molly. Did you hear the question and the comments . Guest i sure did. I heard both. Let me start with tim. I think donald trump shows true autocratic tendencies. That is his instinct. The people he seems to admire the most are autocrats. His instinct, whether it is attempts to shut down books coming out or just to ignore the judicial system and think that, you know, his Supreme Court argument that his own nominees to the Supreme Court rejected the other day was basically that he should be treated above the law. So he has those tendencies, and i think it is very clear, as tim said, but here is the point that i would make in terms of our history as a country. The founders would say we expected a president to think that way. That is what they wrote a constitution to protect against. I think the founders would say, yes, we actually thought that might happen. And they would not be shocked by a president who has these terrible tendencies that we need to vote out of office. I think the founders would be more shocked by the behavior in congress to not do anything about it. I think they would say, we gave the balance of powers, we gave leverage of power to the senate and the house, to stand up when a president behaves in a way that we feared may happen, and i think they would be even more appalled that the republicans in the senate and the house, the jim jordans, the rob portmans, will not do anything about it president who is showing exactly what tim said. So the problematic president is something our founders thought might happen, and i think they would be more shocked and more stunned that the people whose job it is to take an oath to the constitution, they take an oath to be independent, they are violating that oath when they coverup for the president during the impeachment trial as opposed to actually holding them accountable, which is their job. I think they would be even more appalled by the silence amid all the things that are happening. So i agree, tim, it is a problem. In the best solution, before the election, would be a sinner and a house that actually did their job and stood up to it. That would make it go away quick. Yeah,lorys question, women are saving our country, in ohio and across the country. It is the energy of women we saw from the womens march a few days after the inauguration, to women running for office, you know, i talked about our wins in ohio in 2018. Most of those pickups were women candidates. Most of the pickups in the u. S. House, when we swept into power there, were women. In the volunteers and the supporters that voted them in were more women, so, yes, women are powering, and i mentioned the suburban shift. The suburban shift in ohio is being driven by women. You know, some men, too, but more by women. So, obviously, we as democrats had better be talking to women through the end. If we should be fighting on womens issues, whether it is the right to choose. What i will also tell you, in reproductive rights, i think this issue is really important. We have reopened, and states like ohio and other states, with very little sensitivity to what working women say. Mike dewine here in ohio, who did a good job, by the way initially, and the way he reacts but he rushedc, to reopen, and said ok, i will go back to work, before they even had a child care plan. Now, what does that say to women, who are having to make that impossible choice between working and their kids . We i think the longterm have to do the public side has to do a much better job of thinking through all the public support systems that support ,amilies and working women single women working, in particular, before we say to all of them, we will go back to work and start doing all of this again. You know, this has to be much more of a workerdriven, ittomupdriven mindset than has been really from the top down. I think that has put people, women, families, working families, workers in general, in a very tough position. We are seeing it now on the schools reopening. The School Reopening has been pushed from the top, without any conversation with teachers and staff and schools about how you could actually do it in a way that was safe. So i think that a lot of these decisions are coming from the top down, and i think we are going to continue to have to go backward, because i think that approach is actually making one mistake after the next. And the childcare situation was a perfect example of that. Host to our radio audience, we are talking to david pepper, the ohio chair of the democratic party, previously served on the Hamilton County commission, a graduate of yale, both undergraduate and his law degree. Emma is joining us from buys ville, ohio, which is located where . Ander it is about an hour a half away from columbus, ohio. Host good morning to you, emma. Caller good morning. My question is are they ever going to put time limits on how long people can hold seats . And like that 90yearold woman who is a judge, i think there should be a time limit. Host thank you. I think you are referring to Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who is 86, but we get the point. Should there be time limits to how long you should serve on the Supreme Court . Guest i dont think there should be. I think, you know, we have seen over the years that justice is, when i felt like they were unable to continue, chose not to. But one thing about the law, and i say this as a lawyer, having clerked for a judge, you know, one good thing about the law and we know we get wiser with years it is one area where, as long as you are strong mentally come in the mid1980s, you may actually be a much wiser person than you were in your 40s. Withdo not have a problem Ruth Bader Ginsburg, still writing incredible decisions. Decisions were in the majority, not the dissent. Butwill do a fiery dissent, this year, she also helped to put together bipartisan meeting, both democrat and republican leaning judges were on the same page. I am a fan of some judges more than others, but it was interesting to see even gorsuch joined with the democratic nominee is on some important cases. Thinko, bigger picture, i it makes sense that they serve, it is a lifetime term, that will. Sense, and we. Keep seeing it that way. And judges of both Party Nominees go on to serve many, many years, and im fine with that. Host let me turn to a more immediate political question. The Democratic Convention next month in milwaukee, as the chair of the state party in ohio, what is that Convention Going to look like . Guest it is a moving target. I am proud of the dnc for making the proactive decision to make it virtual. They made that before this fight even was getting as bad as a getting, and i think every day that goes by, it is clear that that was the right decision. I will be interested to see what the republicans do, because they are obviously framing theres right in the middle of maybe one or two of the three states with, sadly, the biggest increase i think there will be a lot of virtual die will speak for myself i think we could actually have a very good convention. You know, the average american viewer is not watching most of the convention. That person is watching the primetime speeches, you know, 8 00, 9 00 at night, for three or four days. There is no reason you cannot come up with a way to do those speeches, you know, whether it is michelle obama, barack obama, the Vice President ial nominee, or jill biden, we have a lot of Democratic Candidates, you saw a lot of them run for president , a lot of democratic officeholders, we will be able to fielding the primetime slots with great most of, which is what you see at the conventions anyway. We have all been working with zoom meetings and Virtual Meetings for months now. We will be able to handle that. Pandemic is, given the , we are probably better off having our ohio delegates in ohio working to win ohio van off in hotels in milwaukee at this point anyway. I think we can call the audible, have an exciting convention with the same type of powerful speeches most americans are itching, and then making meaningful to people back in our home state. I am excited. More than that, i respect tom perez, then dnc chair, the biting company the biden campaign, and frankly, the city of milwaukee for saying we are going to do this in a safe way and not be stubborn about it. Host just to be clear, will you be in milwaukee, or will you stay in cincinnati . Guest i dont know, frankly, it is evolving. My own personal plan, i will say most delegates will be in their home states. They will not be in milwaukee. There will be a small amount of meetings in milwaukee. I am not sure who all will be there. Again, my guess is things are getting worse, not better. It is sad that we are continuing to learn the lesson that the whole world learned two or three months ago, which is this is a pandemic. You do not live with a pandemic, as the president said or governor dewine said, if you try to live with a pandemic, the pandemic wins. The quicker we learned that every time we do too much, it blows up in our face. People get sick. People die. I think being smart now the lesson has been made so painfully clear that, you know, err on the side of caution, and if that means fewer and fewer people go, great. We can get our message out. We can organize without the usual pomp and circumstance of a convention. We will see what, if there are small groups meeting, who knows . I feel good about what we are going to do. The thing i feel most tough about is milwaukee is a great place. They worked really hard to get the convention. I thought it was a perfect choice. Is,know, obviously, this you know, not the end of the world, but losing a convention, i feel bad about it, because it would have been a real source of excitement for a great city. Host one final point, and i realize we are in a month outcome a lot of things could change when the convention changes in mid august. Do you think most of it will be virtual . Do i i dont nope you honestly dont know maybe a small audience. I have been talking about my team about well, what can we itin milwaukee to make exciting . One idea i had was renting a drivein movie theater. Everyone drives in and watches some of it on a victim drivein screen. On a big, drivein screen. Everyone elsetes gets. We will see in the coming weeks exactly what it looks like. Host the question that i have drivein movie theaters, do they even have them anymore . [laughs] guest actually, in ohio, they do here. I know there are some. This could be there at revival of the drivein theater for the near term. If there is one open out there, let me know, because it could be a fun place to do a Convention Watch Party safely. Host we all remember them. Load the family in the car. Republican line, good morning. Caller good morning, my fellow americans, my fellow ohioans. I would like to add my opinion that there should be a statue in front of the capital of brian lamb. Just talkeder had how women are rescuing the country. I believe i predict a woman time 13tho beat long district congressman tim ryan, former president ial candidate, who never got more than 1 of the vote. I do not see how gm closing is when tim ryan has been in office for 18 years. [laughs] i believe that i think her name is christina hagan. She has the support of jim jordan, and probably the support of the president , but i believe that she is talking to ohio ans in the mahoney valley who have lost their plans, and when Lordstown Motors goes in, the first thing democrats do is poohpooh the idea, because they will not be beholden to the United Auto Workers union, and i do not understand how all the things that have not been getting done for 18 years are trumps fault. All right, tim ryan got the Packard Museum here. That is one thing i can think of he did come a museum to the history of our old classic cars in the area. But it is not that we are going to lose the Mahoning Valley scrappers Minor League Baseball seems liket just everything is not in his control or is Donald Trumps fault. Thank you. I will take my answer off the air. Host thank you, mike. Guest mike, thanks for your question. Good to hear from you. Let me just say, just, realistically, you have not heard me or anyone say donald trump is the only reason that happened. But here is what happened, just so everyone beyond ohio knows, went to youngstown and said, i to come to your rescue. He said dont sell your home. It is all coming back, he told them, and people believed him. So when news first came out about gm shuttering the plans and sending it to mexico, people did not say oh, that is trumps fault that gm is doing it, they did not say that, i did not say that, but they expected the guy who told them not to sell their home to do something. He did not do anything. He did not even respond. And then months went by, nothing, nothing. Tim ryan was working to stop it. Mike dewine, Sherrod Brown, they were all saying, my gosh, this is a huge problem for ohio, a huge problem for the valley. And donald trump did nothing and then tim ryan and rob portman and mike dewine come across party lines, did everything they could to find a solution, donald trump did nothing. , im sorry, you did this, he then talks to gm and repeated the line you just said come about the uaw. He blamed the union he blamed the workers mexico. This to the workers and the uaw made concession after concession to keep that plant there, and trump did not credit them. Gm gets a tax break from him, from the tax scam that incentivizes sending jobs overseas . 20 does not take the workers and the unions side. Nothing, not just do like he said he would, he blamed the workers. And the last thing he did his he said to these people, thousands tons of other jobs thrown into problems, communities hurt. He then said, to the valley, the place he promised the world, it doesnt matter. Look it up. It is a quote. He said it doesnt matter, because there will be so many other jobs created in ohio, that you will forget about these jobs lost. And what has happened since he said it doesnt matter . We lost jobs, construction and manufacturing jobs, in 2019. So he told folks he did nothing to stop it. He blamed workers. And then he said it doesnt matter. That is why people are upset. And then, guess what, you probably were there, he sent threeup to youngstown weeks ago to try to say everything is ok. The media laughed about it. Newspapers say that was not a good thing to say. Of ouraid, we kept all promises to lordstown. What a joke. Of the lordstown situation was the uaw leader named dave green, he fought as hard as he could across party lines, nonpartisan, trying to keep those jobs, and donald trump told everyone not to sell their homes. Left the area, to keep his job. Even the leader of the workers had to move. So this is not we are not being simplistic about this. This is not a saying well, donald trump, you know, did it, but he promised he would do something. He did nothing. He then blamed workers. And then he said it doesnt matter. That is not living up to his promises. Tim ryan has fought on this and other issues for his entire career, and there are things in that area that would not be there. All sorts of newer technologies. M is one of the reasons that you see some hope. I will take your bet, mike, tim will win again. The people of the valley know that tim has been fighting for them every single day since he got there. Host brandy is next in ohio. Good morning. You are on with david pepper, the chair of the state democratic party. Caller hi. Good morning. I just have a few comments and then a brief question. To comment on the woman who was talking about justice ginsburg, um, i think she is being a patriot. She probably is really tired, and she probably would like to be somewhat retired, but she ist, because our president a his judgment is such in bad form that she is probably afraid of who he would appoint. That and i would also like to comment on the last caller that jimjust had, he said that jordan supported jim jordan is a pots. He stands for nothing. The republican party, which i used to be a proud member of, does not stand for that anymore. He is just hoping that he will get a raise, he will get a promotion. Unfortunately, his time has run out. Hopefully he will get voted out. That,stion for david is in ohio, we discussed subsidies for per family, per child, for food subsidies. I have never gotten any supplement. Not only have i never gotten one, but i was left out of the supplement. What are you prepared to do, as use yourat goes, to platform to advocate for families like us, who i make 40,000 a year, and i can barely afford to feed my family right now, with the prices. So that is my question. Guest yeah, great question. I appreciate your question and your comments. I do not have the exact answer to your question, but i would certainly be happy to help. If you go to my website, davidpepper. Com, you will find in email to send me that. Our congressman from cleveland is a champion on food supplements, as you are saying, it is a huge need. Sadly, it is a growing need in 2020 in america. People are hungry. People are having a hard time spending money on food. Send me that question. On the other point, i agree, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and others are, you know, like you said, in many ways, i am sure they would enjoy doing other things besides being on the front line of democracy, but that is exactly where they are, and the last thing we need is another, you know, attempt to rush a justice in, in the second half of this year. So she is doing a great job. She is the strongest woman as i think we will ever see in this country. You know, when we look back at the sentry, i think Ruth Bader Ginsburg and leaders like nancy pelosi can i a lot of wellknown women leaders, will be seen as really historic figures for the leadership they have shown in a very difficult time. Let medan, i, you know, just say we are a state, not to go back to the book i wrote, the voter file, but we are a state that has among the worst gerrymandering in the country. So just so folks know beyond of ohioans18, 50 2 a republican for congress. 48 voted for democrats. That is like a 50 50 state, right . What do we have . 12 republicans, for democrats. And most do not worry about getting reelected. It is like they are handed it. The super majority is republican. This is not a democracy at a certain point, when the delegate breakdown is not reflective of how the voters are voting. That is why jim jordan exists. Jim jordan and now he have a great opponent this year, and , but jimrash our jordan can act the way he asked, still out of step with almost anyone anywhere. He is not like romney, doing the opposite. He does not care about anything trump is doing, but he acts like that, because he does not think the voters can do anything about it. A basically thinks of reelection as a reappointment, with no accountability at all. Blue this ohio november does not just end the Trump Presidency come i also gives us the chance to end gerrymandering. So even if jim jordan gets reelected, and i hope shannon beats him, at the very least he will be in a district where he has to worry that the voters get a say whether or not he gets to keep his job. Most of ohio congresspeople, the voters do not have a say if they keep their jobs, so they say nothing, they do very little, they never stand up, because they do not worry about it. The only thing of a publican congressman in ohio and they are all men, by the way the only thing ever public and congressman ohio worries about is that they will be beaten in the primary. To be asincentive is jim jordan as possible, and that is why our system is so broken. So showing up this november to vote do not just worry about electing joe biden and getting rid of donald trump, you can help end gerrymandering, so you can hold people that jim jordan accountable, and you can end gerrymandering by voting through your valley, making sure youre voting for statehouse members and Supreme Court candidates who are dedicated and are clear that they stand up against this red system known as gerrymandering. Wet is the way, in the end, will get rid of the super divisive politics we see out of people like jim jordan, who just feel like they are not accountable to anybody, because under a rigged system, they are. Host on twitter, they can find you davepepper. In a sentence, the book the voter file says what . Guest the voter file is a large database of all the voters in the country, which really exists. The democrats have one. Republicans have one. The voter file is a story of what would happen if someone got their hands on it and wanted to do some damage. And the sad truth is, they could do a lot of it. That is the story. Host david pepper, joining us from cincinnati and customs enforcement, specifically what measures are being taken to protect detainees and federal employees and ice detention facilities. Our focus, social media and free speech. H. The website is parler. Com, and joining us from las vegas is the ceo of that website, john matze. Thank you so much for being with us. Guest thank you. Host if you were to put a Mission Statement to your