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Affected by the coronavirus. Egge discussesrt how covid19 is impacting nursing home patient. Next. Ington journal is host the weekend july 4 celebrations are over, and the covid crisis continues, the cages surging in several states across the country. Good morning. Welcome to washington journal for this monday, july 6. We will talk about what the situation is like in your area and state, the impact of the search in it crisis across cases across the state. In lines are 202 7488000 the eastern and central time zones. In the mountain and pacific areas, 202 7488001. If you like to send us a text, 202 7488003t at tell us your name and where you are from. cspanwj. So on twitter soaring cases, hospitalizations overshadowed july 4 celebrations. States cast an 39 shadow over the nations fourth of july celebrations, as Health Experts word about holiday parties causing a further spike in infections that could overwhelm hospitals. Also looking at the wall street journal this morning in specificity, u. S. Death toll coronavirus nears 130,000, as infection rate surges. We will take a look at the numbers and the Johns Hopkins tracker across the world and in the United States in particular. Around the world, the total confirmed cases over 11 million cases worldwide and over half a million deaths. The United States now nearing 3 million cases identified and approaching 130,000 deaths in the United States. Yesterday on face the nation, the headline former fda u. S. Istrator said the right back where we were at earlier pico coronavirus crisis. Earlier peak coronavirus crisis. Here is what he had to say. When new york city peaked, we had hundred 34,000 cases. We were diagnosing one in 20 cases. 60,000ow, we will have cases and maybe we will reach 75,000. We are probably diagnosing one in 12. We are falling behind. We have 700,000 infections a day nationally. We are right back where we were at the peak of the epidemic outbreak in new york. We had one spread when new york was going through its spread. We now have four major epicenters. Worsta looks to be in the shape in georgia is heating up as well. Host the former commissioner Scott Gottlieb on cbs. Our topic is the rise in coronavirus cases. For the eastern and central time zones. 202 7488001, for mountain and pacific. How has it impacted your state and area . On the first monday in july, usually the Supreme Court is done by the end of june. They are webbing up wrap it their week in major cases, possibly as soon as this morning at 10 00 eastern. We are joined by Lawrence Curley who covers the Supreme Court for thomson reuters. A bit unusual here for july decisions to going down. Why is that the case . Guest it is an unusual year. Postpone oralto arguments that were going to happen in march and april. Phoneaving arguments by and because those arguments were took longer to decide the cases which is why we are heading into july with eight cases left. Host talk about the key cases we should be looking for this week. Guest the two biggest ones that everyone will focus on are two cases related to President Trumps first to shield his financial records from scrutiny. Onee are different cases, involving the house of representatives trying to get hold of his records and the other one is a new york prosecutor seeking to do the same thing as part of a criminal investigation. Host there is also a case in terms of still affecting the obamacare, the mandate under the horrible care act. The was that case about Affordable Care act. What was that case about . Guest the jump ministration has broadened this the Trump Administration has broadened the mandate for contraception, which requires employers to include contraceptive coverage in Health Insurance. The court is deciding whether or not that regulation is lawful and if that is the case, it has decided in the last few years. Host once the decision comes down, the court will be done in terms of the session, correct . Guest we dont actually know if we will get all of the decisions this week. We know we have rulings coming willmorning and the court likely have additional days when they will have rulings if they dont sign them decide them all today. There is a decent chance they will finish up this week. Host our cspan camera out in front of the courthouse today for reaction to the decisions as they come down. Thing, it has always been a parlor game on potential retirement in Supreme Court each year. Which justices are being mentioned of boomers rumors floating about of retirement . Guest there has been no mention at all from anyone. As far as we are aware, nothing is cooking. Chatter fromn some conservative circles, because President Trump he has had a lot of success with judicial appointments and people in his circles would quite like to get another opening to fill. The only way that would necessarily happen in terms of someone voluntarily leaving would be if one of the conservatives, which would be someone like Clarence Thomas r samuel alito, but there is no suggesting they are going to. None of the justices would leave with an election approaching. The only thing is if it would be enforced. Host we will be looking for your reporting today and this week as the court wraps up the decision. Thanks so much for the update. Guest thank you. Host we will get into your calls and comments on the impact of the rise in coronavirus cases across the United States. We go to she can. This is philip. Go ahead. Caller i dont understand why rubellant make the available for the elderly. I saw on your show that a man from the cdc stated that there was a cutoff between the people who had the mmr vaccine and the elderly who did not who got it and who didnt, it was more serious the symptoms were more serious and those who did not have the mmr vaccine. It to the home arent went to the walmart and i noted waiting for a prescription that you can actually get the mmr vaccine at walmart. I said i wanted to get it because it has the rubella vaccine included with it, and he said how old are you . And i said i am 67. He says, have you had measles and mumps . I said yeah. He said we dont want to give it to you, because we want your doctors approval because youve had it. He skipped over the fact that never have i had or considered rubella, which is the thing i need to get in the elderly needs to reduce the effects of this darn virus. If they do get it, there might have a better chance of living. Host we will go to florida. Welcome. Some comments on this virus thing. Host yes, sir. Caller how come they never say anything about these, you guys call them demonstrators, i call them hoodlums or bombs, how come they never talk about how much they spread . There are thousands in groups. Nobly on the news or ever says maybe some of the crowds nobody on the news ever says maybe some of those crowds caused it and they tell us we cant do this and we cant do that, how come that is . Host bernie in new york. Caller today, there has been no impact on the rate of infection in new york state. That is primarily due to the clarity of Governor Cuomo, who has taken this very seriously, and communicated it very well. However, according to the go this waymay not for very long, considering the fact that the rest of the country is becoming explosive in terms of the virus. I am concerned about it getting out of hand. It was well controlled and was originally the epicenter of the country. Fortunately, Governor Cuomo did not support President Trumps idea of injecting each person with a disinfectant. That. K Governor Cuomo for i thanked Governor Cuomo for that. Host the headline in the Washington Post this morning, the rush to reopen caused spikes. New coronavirus cases in the United States as a data copy on last night, the average of the 42,691ber of cases up to on july 5. The death rate, a similar climate through march and into april, and eight decline in deaths reported yesterday, on july 5, 218. President trump tweeting about the virus, new china virus cases up, mostly because of massive testing. Deaths are down, slow and steady. The fake media should report this. Pres. Trump our strategy is moving along well. It goes out in one area and rears back its ugly face in another area, but we have learned a lot. We have learned how to put out the flame. We have made ventilators where there were none, by the tens of thousands, to the point that we have far more then we need and we are now districting them too many Foreign Countries as a gesture of goodwill. Testing. There were no tests for a new virus, but now we have tested almost 40 Million People. Showcases, 99 of which are totally harmless. S fda the president commissioner was asked about the comments on the coronaviruses and the 99 of them being harmless. Here is the reaction. [video clip] workinglize you are hard to protect americans. I have to ask you flatly to that end, is the president wrong . I am not going to get into who is right and who is wrong. What i will say is it is a serious problem we have. We have seen a surge in cases. We have this in our power to do it by following the guidance from the White House Task force and the cdc. So you wont say whether 99 of coronavirus cases are completely harmless from what the president said at the white house last night . What i have said is we have data and it shows this is a serious problem. People need to take it seriously. Host it is monday, july 6, 0 says politics making the front page of the Washington Times with the trump backers threat about a string of setbacks. Lead in polls, a four months between before president voting. Racial tensions and the strength and speed of the economic recovery are in doubt. Two months in a row, mr. Biden has outraised the president in campaign money. It is written that three of americans believe the countries on the wrong track and esther trumps Approval Rating mr. Trumps Approval Rating is low. Quote in talking to people around the country, i think conservatives are very rattled, said the chairman of the american conservative union, i dont think i have ever been in politics at a time when they are more sure and rattled. Back to comments and calls. A text from jim saying im totally disgusted. I was finally about to hug my i96 mother after four months, and now it is my 96yearold now itfour months, and mess because of selfish more onto are interested in the rights to have parties injured themselves into oblivion than they are in taking part in the effort to control the spread. Ler. next cal caller what is going on is it is all selective, even on your show, you allow people to say anything they want to say, as supports your position. You had an individual claiming that the president wanted to inject people with disinfectant. We know that is incorrect, but you didnt say a thing, because let them continue on. And you didnt mention the study of the fork foundation in detroit that hydroxychloroquine has had a very well established tests and has shown to be an effective early treatment. None of this stuff is brought up to balance it out, and you get to choose what you want to do. We have lots of numbers out there, but we dont have any data to see. You did show over a bit that one died, andople had that is compared to previously when we had a sick people and did not know how to handle the virus. But the facts are, there is only 601 people in a series condition in the hospital in the United States. There are lots of people in the intensive care, but they are not covid intensive care. So you get to pick and choose what you want to present to the thinkithout having anyone. You had Hillary Clinton on saying that if she were president , she would do it differently. She would not close down the borders. We know that she wouldnt do anything. She couldnt even get results elected. The election will be a problem. 5530. S up up 55 to about 35 120 days out. Host i appreciate your opinion. Greenville, mississippi. This is tammy. Welcome. Caller thank you for having me. Host go ahead, you are on the air. , i live inas calling the center states. I was calling to bring up the point that is always brought up to my conservative friends and families. Where are the numbers on the poor working man. It was shown with the trump , that theys weekend were all crowded together. , the donore next day crowd are all spread out across the lawn. How much did those tickets cost . To social distance versus being crammed in . Host the tickets for the Mount Rushmore event . Caller big fourth of july on the lawn. I didnt see any flipflops in that crowd. That is not the crowd that was at Mount Rushmore. They were all crammed together. Control overhas whether they were going to cram them together or put them apart. The poor people were crammed together. Host Fort Lauderdale sun sentinel writing about the beaches, the five Fort Lauderdale beach closures and staged protests on the sand with a photo. They also write the headline, hospitalizations on the rise as florida passes 200,000 coronavirus cases. Debbie. Higan, what is the effect in your area in the rising cases . Caller lansing, michigan is on the rise, due to some drinking at a local bar with the young people. My concern is not a popular opinion, but masks. I have 40 years in the medical field. The masks that we are using, the nonn95 arein the not effective. According to osha, and there are several studies that prove these masks are pretty much doing nothing. They are even harming people because they trap in error which promotes the virus trapped in air. Host want to point out an opinion piece in usa today from workers. Frontline they have the peace calling on the greater use of they write as specialist in new york city, we are concerned about increasing rates of covid19 infections which may overwhelm our hospitals and parts of the usa. To avoid a catastrophic repeat of the initial search, we recommend a population wide intervention, a significant increase in the use of n95 masks that might allow for a safer reopening of the u. S. Economy. Sars was thought to be primarily transmissible by fluidfilled droplets generated by coughing or sneezing and traveling short distances and will not reach another. However, it has recently been determined that a major mode of transmission of sars is via exhaled. Excellent what do you think of their opinion polling for the greater use of n95 masks . Caller that is the mask that does filter, so that would be effective. But these other masks with no filter in them, they dont fit tight to your face. N95 has a sealed around your face so no air gets in around the mask. That is exactly right. . Ost you said you were a nurse caller i am not a nurse. I worked as a surgical tech for multiple years. I worked in the medical field 40 plus years. Host n95 masks were designed for surgical procedures. How difficult would it be to wear those daylong, outside, in the summer and people would get very hot. Caller that is correct, but it is effective. If you are going to wear a mask, you want something that will protect you. These other masks are giving a false sense of protection. They are not protecting you. Host we will hear from diane next in ohio. Caller i feel very, very strongly if the president wouldnt have started his bullcrap, this would have been ending much sooner or at least there wouldnt have been so many murders, and thats what i feel very strongly is what he has done. He murdered people literally. At a surveys a look on the vaccine. This was in the wall street journal. These are Health Care Executives and investors about expectations for a covid19 vaccine. The question is specifically for vaccine to be available to all of the u. S. They surveyed 50. Of that 50, 20 2 of them expected a vaccine 22 of them expected a vaccine to be in 2021. Rly quarter of executives, granted a small survey of 50 people, feel it is a much later arrival for the vaccine. Dr. Anthony fauci, of the centers for Disease Control excuse me, of the National Institutes of allergy and Infectious Diseases and the Coronavirus Task force, testifying before congress about the importance of the vaccine. [video clip] make sure we have to that when states start to open again, need to follow the guidelines that have been carefully laid out with regard to checkpoints. What weve seen in several states are different iterations ,f that, perhaps maybe in some going to quickly and skipping over some of the checkpoints. Even in states in which the leadership, in the form of the governors and mayors, did it right with the right recommendations, what we saw visually, in clips, and in photographs of individuals in the community doing it all or none phenomenon, which is a dangerous. By all or none, i mean either the totally locked down totally open, not Wearing Masks, not avoiding crowds, not physical distancing. I think we need to emphasize the responsibility we have, both as individuals and part of a societal effort to end the epidemic, that we all have to play a part in that. If you look at the visuals, what we saw were a lot of people who may be felt that because they think they are in von honorable, and we dont many young people vulnerable, and they think that because they are not infected doesnt affect anyone else. If a person gets infected, they may not be symptomatic, they can pass it to someone else, who passes it to someone else, who then makes someones grandfather or uncle or a child on chemotherapy to get sick and die. We have to get this stitch out that we are all in this together. If we are going to contain this, we have to contain it together. Host our opening question does our opening question the rises in cases. The nbc reporting Associated Press story with the 200 state inspectors and strike teams put up by the governor fanned out to enforce rules. Comment on social media. On twitter libby says, as of cases, my county has 734 come up nearly 27 since last week. 24 deaths. Testing positive requires selfisolation. How has not been able to work help our economy . Houston county has to do better. The official fireworks display was canceled but the unofficial displays went on for hours. People gathered in groups. America first finding a way to celebrate during these horrific times they meet a little prouder. Back to your calls. To pam burlington, north carolina. Caller i have a couple of points to make. A man that called had mentioned that trump did not Say Something about injecting disinfectant. He did. And askedto dr. Birx that question. If you apply that or let people know where to find, not where it is written, where he actually says it. Written, where he actually says it. It iser point is i think really, really sad that the doctors, like dr. Fauci, dr. They needot say what to say because of trump. They cannot come out and say it, 99 t he said about of the being not harmful to people, is a lie. And my third point, and i will be really fast, is that people out here saying that they have a right not to wear a mask or to wear a mask is unamerican. If everyone would wear a mask in public and social distance, this would be and everybodycker could get back to a somewhat normal life. And i do not understand why they do not get that. It is crazy. That is all i have to say. Thank you. Host you bet. Ricky is next in kentucky. Hey there. Morning. Ey, good i would just like to say that, as far as the mask, i am 57 years old. It is really hot outside. You know, especially in these factories. I work in a factory. Ive worked through the corona. Thank god i have not got any symptoms. The company i work for does real well in trying to disinfect. But back to the mask, you know, orave been in walmart two three times a day and go through the week and some of the people are still wearing the same mask really disgusting. If anything, they passing this germ, any kind of germ, onto other people. So i do not see a benefit to the mask. If it bites me, it bites me. I have to work. I have to provide for my family. O does my wife she works every day, works through the corona. We have to, you know, to live and survive. And these masks she has a little breathing problem. Well, all it does is make it worse on her. State require you to wear a mask if you go to a store like walmart . People well, sir, the inside down here in kentucky at the walmarts, they wear them. But i am going to say 60 percent of people do not wear them. Host so it is optional . Caller right, absolutely. Absolutely. So anyway, i feel that we have to do the herd immunity, and it is just like, i know it is a terrible disease, worse than a fluke, but at the same time, it is not going to be cured by people Wearing Masks. It is just not going to happen. Just aint going to happen. So thanks, sir. Host thank you. Headline from the hill this morning, gop arizona lawmakers and found she and fauci birx undermine this. Key members are undermining President Trumps response to the virus during an interview thursday in a backandforth with fox news. To removecalled on the two from the task force, saying they are causing panic with warnings about how the coronavirus pandemic could evolve should americans not follow Public Health guidelines. In the bronx, anthony, welcome. To be on. , boy, good i saw somebody Walking Around with one of the masks, the blue ones, and it looked like they got it out of a garbage can and put it right on the face. Hydrogen peroxide is a naturally occurring chemical in our cells that kills virus i think via vitamin c. Trump was inquiring about a study that applied peroxide, chemical, to the lungs. 95 mask, according to an osha employee, when you blow out of it, if you have a virus, youre blowing it right out of that vent. So host ok. Joe is in cedar rapids, iowa. Caller hello. I have got a couple of things i would like to ask about. Where is the results from the serology tests . Where you already have antibodies. There was an article that the cdc found out the 24 states were combining the serology test results along with the regular covid test, and that is how you get a higher number. The other thing is i spent 40 years using n95s. You have to be almost cleanshaven to wear one because you cannot get a seal over more than two days beard. Foundation ran a hydroxychloroquine and found out that it was beauvais better than remdesivir and found out that it was way better than remdesivir. So who is ordering who . Thank you. Host you can send comments to twitter, cspanwj. This one from florida, i am shocked how little my state and local government prioritized their relationships with the local economic council, chambers of commerce, over the Public Health and safety of such a vulnerable population. Timothy says, still cannot eat inside the restaurants or bars. Warm weather has helped the economy with the outdoor option, but in my town, people are stubborn about masks and who knows who is washing up. I have to go to the clinic for my schizophrenia shut once a month, so i see how the front is. A headline here about the labor secretary who yesterday was on one of the sunday morning shows. The headline, extra 600 a week in Unemployment Insurance no longer needed. He was on fox news sunday. Here is what the labor secretary had to say. [video clip] in terms of the unemployment benefit, it was a really important thing to do as we were shutting our economy down. Americans across the country were basically being told and we needed to take measures, but they were basically being told you cannot go to work right now, so we needed that substantial unemployment benefit. There are some states where you can get on an annual basis 75,000 a year right now on unemployment. I think as we reopen the economy, i do not know that we need a benefit like that. During the socalled Great Recession 10, 12 years ago when we had a downturn, the added federal unemployment benefit was 25 a week. What we did in the cares act was 600 a week. This is something we will get a look at, but i do not think we need that six hundred dollars benefit Going Forward. Host next to jim in iowa. Just say wear masks. It protects me, and it will protect the other person. It should not be controversial to wear a mask. Your notreciate putting the fake part about trump saying instead, listen to dr. Fauci. He is not undermining. Trump is undermining the doctors. So just listen to the doctors and wear a mask, and we appreciate that. I see a lot of people here in iowa wearing a mask. And i see some doesnt. But i stay far away from them when they have no mask on. Do,that is all i can protect myself, and Hand Sanitizer, keep everything clean. Host a headline from the wall street journal, early success stories, see virus surge. Those that stemmed this bread in recent weeks face the challenge of maintaining that success. Summer increasing travel and distancing fatigue. In ohio, where Governor Mike Dewine had been praised, i said in rising cases is sparking new concern. That is from the wall street journal. To florida, this is joseph up next. Good morning. Caller good morning. Listen, my take on this situation is as follows, john made ain his book comment to the effect that mr. Trump is motivated primarily or only by his desire to be reelected. And i think that is reflected and what caused the situation we are in now. You know, we are in a deep hole with this coronavirus. It did not have to had been this deep. However, in the beginning, for whatever reason, mr. Trump did not want to test and track, etc. That is how europe and asia got out of the mess that this coronavirus creates. By mr. Frankelok recently, mans search for meaning, and at the end of the book, he makes the, that we in the United States have built the statue of liberty, and then he says i think we should also responsibilityof. That is what we are lacking, america. We have to all come together, face this problem together, and be responsible and stop accusing each other, and we need good leadership to do that. God bless america. Host here is john in birmingham, alabama. Caller actually, i am in arizona. Is one of ours justsentatives, and i was horrified by his comments that dr. Fauci and dr. Birx are undermining trump. I mean, here are some people that are trying to tell us the truth and trump is shutting them down. Money thehe way, made oldfashioned way. He hit the Publishers Clearing House sweepstakes, so god bless him. Host congressman biggs, you said . Video ofou can find a him with ed mcmahon, presenting a check for the clearinghouse sweepstakes he is a millionaire. Host all right. This is a headline in the hill yesterday, trump to hold outdoor rally in New Hampshire on saturday. The reporting of the hill on this, it was the next make America Great again rally will gather supporters that Fort Smith International airport on saturday, july 11, 8 00 p. M. The hill writes they will provide entities with ample access to Hand Sanitizer and a face mask that they are strongly encouraged to wear, according to a press release. We will keep you posted about our coverage plans on the cspan networks. In southrnest carolina. Are you there . One more time. Hollywood, south carolina, are you on the line with us . Caller yes, can you hear me . Host yes, go ahead. Caller i listen to your program and hear people put a size people criticize, like people Walking Around with 30 masks and stuff, but they are not saying anything about what they can do to make it better. I ended up in the hospital for maybe 20 days, and i had a ventilator. I did not know it was and let me because i was unconscious. I mean, what would you think if you laid up in the hospital and you got that virus with a ventilator down your throat and you got something coming up your rectum in the back . How comfortable do you think that would be . And you are Walking Around saying you are not going to do anything to protect yourself . He mask is not only for you it is for protection of the other people. I do not understand why people could be so selfish. They do not have that kind of respect you in your town, are seeing folks Wearing Masks out at stores . Caller oh, yes. But as some of the walmarts, you see people Walking Around like it aint nothing. I dont understand. It scares me. I carry some extra masks. And i offer them a mask. Host thanks for calling paired we went to play this earlier from a hearing last week, a Senate Hearing on the timeline of the development of the covid vaccine. Here is a look. [video clip] the American People are dying and getting sick, and they are looking for results. And we know you just cannot wave the magic wand. Dr. Collins, i will start with you. What do you say to the American People today on where we are and when the timeline and what do you think we will become aware . Mr. Chairman, this is the right question and something i think all of us working on covid19 are obsessed about night and day because this is one of those crises were science is not only important, it is crucial to and every mistake we make would set us back, and every wasted opportunity would have a consequence for somebodys life. So i want to tell you, we are all in, everybody working on this team. Where we are but the vaccine, remember, generally it takes five to 10 years to develop a vaccine from a new infectious agent. We do not have that time. So in record time, the very first vaccine went from knowing what the sequence of this viral genome was to injecting the first patient in phase one trial in six to three days, a world record by a longshot. New technologies made that possible. Going quickly from phase one, which looks very promising, to phase two, which started on may 29, and phase three which will begin this month. And how long will that take . We need to enroll 30,000 volunteers, and that should take a matter of some months. We are all optimistic that the goal we have said to have a vaccine that works and is workse by the end that in us safe by the end of 2020 will be met. One of the vaccines, but there are several being conducted sidebyside, that we would then have to buy early 2021 300 million doses of a vaccine that is safe and effective. So all of that is where were putting ourselves on the line, and i think everybody at this table would agree that is really the right goal for the American People. Host comments from joe biden theerday on twitter, Presumptive Democratic nominee. Covid19 is surging across the nation, and this president is doubling down on his efforts to rip Health Insurance and protections away from millions. It is heartless, cruel, and must be stopped. The hard truth is it did not have to be this bad, but donald trump ignored the warnings and refused to take action he failed to take action. Reaction from our callers, viewers, and listeners. Ext 202 7488003 joe in charleston, south carolina, says case numbers are increasing and masks are no monetary where i live and in surrounding towns. Masks may not be perfect, but their use is the best thing we can do if we want to travel around our communities. What can it hurt to wear them . The only other effective method to prevent transmission is isolation, and most people reject that idea. I am wearing a mask right now, by the way. Michael in portland, oregon. In oregon, the fourth of july weekend was celebrated with a view mass gatherings. Other than continued nighttime rioting in the center of my big city. I do not expect a big bump of new cases is followed in the next 10 days. Other states, especially ones unfortunate enough to have hosted large political rallies, will knock it off so lightly. And from new jersey, because of the rise of covid19 positives, the plan to allow restaurants to allow Indoor Dining is been postponed. We will hear from brady in ohio. Go ahead. Caller how are you doing . Host good morning. Caller i want to talk about how i work for a maintenance company. I do maintenance work. Praise the indiana i that they jumped all over this here and put every protocol in place to make us safe. Now these people out here not wearing their masks, i am sorry, they use just dead wrong. I have over 200 masks myself, because i am going to protect myself. I do not want my kids or somebody elses child or some buddy elses parents or grandmother getting this virus. This virus is very sneaky, and you dont know. I got doctors in my family, man. My niece got it from going to new york. She is actually a doctor and went to help people, and she did everything she did to protect yourself, and she still got it. Praise god that she is ok. But for the people who are complaining about the masks, just get over it. Put a mask on, put gloves on, and go about your life. It is not going to kill you to wear a mask. From pollock pines, california. Caller good morning. Wise to her mask. To where a mask. But name one person in the world right dr. Fauci, he was wrong many times along the way. This whole pandemic. Trump is doing best he can. Were as joe biden, yeah, going to learn a lot of about joe biden and barack obama coming up. [indiscernible] host we are going to hear from maria next in westfield, new jersey. Caller good morning. I think one of the worst effects of this are that people are losing confidence in the medical profession, and they have reason to because of all the contradictions. I just wanted to point out that with the use of lancetchloroquine, the retracted their acceptance of the study that said it was not any good or lead to these bad effects, and yet, when they had the hearings with the nih people, we had congresspeople screaming at them to say that it wasnot work, and nih nodding their heads as if they did not know the results. But dr. Fauci and bill gates are both involved with a chinesebased company that is developing a vaccine. Please, i am begging you, to have on a doctor that knows the motives and the people involved there who said that the doctors have been hoarding hydroxychloroquine for their use in their small circles. Even on cspan in the last month, you have had three or four medical experts on who admitted that they have been using it themselves as a prophylactic. We do not need something that itwed somebody not having effective although it helps 50 . It is to be used at the early stages and should be given to the most Vulnerable People right now. The masks, maybe they could help some small way, but if you have something that prevents a getting very ill and being hospitalized, that is very vital. I think this is a big scandal, and i am begging cspan, have this man on. Thank you very much. Host appreciate the guest suggestion. House and senate are out this week in terms of legislative work, but work continues off the floor, particularly in the u. S. House, as a Appropriations Bills get underway. We will cover several markup sessions today. Beginning at 4 00 eastern, the subcommittee for state foreign foreign aid part of appropriations, and it will also continue at 8 00 tonight with the appropriations subcommittee on military constructions and on veterans affairs. Onse hearings live here cspan. You can also follow it online at cspan. Org and on the free cspan radio app. So if a left turn into this 2021,g of budgets for spending bills for 2021, being marked up on those appropriations subcommittees. James in new jersey, good morning. There. Go ahead. Alright, to hampton, virginia. Donna, good morning. Caller good morning. Bear with me because im almost 80 and my days are limited, but i have some information i would like to get across. I literally just got off the 2019,er, and this is from deaths, 5nza, 650,000 Million People were infected, but we do not shut the country down for that. Me,we do for this, which to i still say is somewhat of a joke. To see you get a dr. David somadi from new york. He also has been on and said that hydro whatever that word is, i cannot pronounce it is absolutely one of the best things to treated with, and why theyre not wanting to, i dont understand. Isuess because a vaccine going to be extremely expensive. For, it i really called am almost 80 and have never gotten a flu shot, i have never gotten the flu. I am not afraid of this virus. And i am going to tell you a very simple way for you and all the people that are listening out there, since i was 40 years old, i have been taking every to 5000 units000 of vitamin d, which my doctor recommended. 4000o take 2 2000 to vitamin c daily. I never get sick. I never have a cold. And i am sure this is what is keeping me healthy, because i have gone out wearing no mask two and three times a week through this whole pandemic malarkey, and i have not gotten sick. Stay healthy. , carla in new york state. Caller yes, i am a registered nurse in new york city, and my department has been involved in the covid data from the start. In march, i would get to work at 8 00 and would leave at 9 30 p. M. At night, because that is how many cases there were because there was no social distancing and no masks. Now that were in july, i can tell you this much, there is a trickle of cases and i can get to work at 8 00, and by 10 00 we are finished entering our data, because that is how good of a job Governor Cuomo and the state has done as far as social distancing and using a mask. When we were involved in this, we have to enter the patients come or bid to these, whether they had to be intubated, and whether they are discharged. I have to say to you, i would hate to have to go to work and go back to the days of not using a mask where i had to work 12 hours a day, and then a statistic where they come in the covid positive and they deteriorate, and hopefully they get discharged but then other scenarios, they die. I just want to say, wear a mask and social distancing are thank you very much. Host appreciate your experience per to followup from the weekend speech by President Trump at Mount Rushmore, the fourth of july speech saturday at the white house, this is the wall street journal, trumpet Mount Rushmore, progressives derive his defense of americas founding principles. A little bit from their editorial this morning. This, divisive mr. Trumps speech was certainly direct, in his typical style, but it was only divisive if you have not been paying attention to the divisions now being stoked on the political left across american institutions. Mr. Trump pointed out that the last few weeks have seen an explosion of cancel culture, driving people from their jobs, demanding total submission from anyone who disagrees. Describing this statement of fact as divisive, they write, proves his point. On those speeches, this is another view in the Washington Post this morning. The headline on his opinion piece this morning is, a culture war that is all trump has left. Vileys that trumps speeches at Mount Rushmore on friday and the white house on the fourth of july shows he sees only one path the victory, he will tear the nation to pieces. He writes, he will use the classic methods of racist politicians to tie a resurgent movement for racial equality to a wave of Violent Crime and efforts to destroy our very civilization. It is all, he says, part of a leftwing cultural revolution designed to overthrow the american revolution. He writes, the man who has been selling rightwing nationalism dares to say his opponents advocate a far new left fascism. A politician who has defended confederate on immense scrambles for cover behind abraham link went and quotations from Martin Luther king, jr. The Washington Post this morning. Wall street journal, another look back at the weekend and what it might mean in the campaign. Trump sees a win in monuments, is the headline. National polls and surveys in several battleground states have shown President Trump is behind Presumptive Democratic nominee joe biden four months before election day. Several of the president s aides and allies predict his holiday we can comments would resonate beyond his political base, saying his defense of statues and monuments was unifying issue. Aides also think his recent messaging up police will resonate with voters concerned about safety. A couple more calls on this topic. Charles in princeton junction, new jersey. Tearles, make sure you mu your volume and then go ahead. Caller ok, thank you. Host are you there . Charles in new jersey, one more time. In oh fallon, illinois. Sir. R yes, good morning, i have to tell you, it is a bit surreal watching what is happening in this country and andhing the ignorance people in my party, the Republican Party, turning a blind eye to what is going on with the current occupant at 1600 pennsylvania avenue. With all the death, over 100,000 thousands of people that will go forward with preexisting conditions caused by this virus, and the president says that the cases, 99 of the cases are basically harmless, 99 of the cases, nothing to see here, move along. This is what the Republican Party has reaped upon this nation. Turning a blind eye to all the shenanigans analyze of this and lies of this man. And now when the rubber meets ie road, i along can fix it, am the answer, i am this, i am that he dances around like a petulant child. When lives are at stake, he has no discipline. Thisepublican party at point, according to mr. Trump, is the party of confederate, treasonous sympathizers, ofencedeniers, and in favor rampant Police Brutality without forpushback or controls police and outofcontrol Police Unions that push and impact legislation to allow police not the police, but to bully and brutalized communities of color. Host more discussion ahead here on washington journal. We will focus and some the effect of coronavirus, covid19, on cities across the country. We will be joined by salim furth , director of george mason center,tys mercatus the urbanity project, on how the virus is impacting cities. Later on, robert egge of the Alzheimers Association will talk about how covid19 is affecting Nursing Homes and alzheimers patients. Communicators,he u. S. Telecom president and ceo talks about the effect of coronavirus on telecommunications. Despite the billions of dollars we are investing every year, we need congress to work with us in strengthening the publicprivate partnership, a commitment to universal service, to provide adequate resources, the funds that will be necessary to equip the broadband Infrastructure Investment, put the debate behind us and close the Digital Divide. The u. S. Telecom president and ceo, tonight at 8 00 p. M. Eastern on the communicators on cspan2. Is a crisis. People are losing their lives. With Police Reform taking center stage in congress, watch our live unfiltered coverage of the latest developments. Plus, the governments response to the coronavirus pandemic. We were going down from 30,000 to 25,000 to 20,000, and then stayed about a flat, and now we are going up. And briefings from the white house on four affairs. Congress on health care, insight from former administration officials. I do think there is a line one should not cross were governmental power is used essentially exclusively for personal benefit. Pres. Trump we will stand proud, and we will stand tall. And the latest from the campaign 2020 trail. Join in the conversation every day on our live callin Program Washington journal. And if you missed any live coverage, whats anytime on demand at cspan. Org or listen on the go with the free cspan radio app. Washington journal continues. Host joining us next is salim furth, Senior Research fellow at George Mason Universitys mercatus center. He directs their urbanity project. Thanks for being on with us this morning. Give us some specifics. What do you study in the urbanity project . This aboutnity cities, and in a bigger sense come about living together. Beings come human as americans, solve the problems that make it hard to live near each other so we can reap the benefits of having a big civilization with lots of interactions, lots of people meeting people, doing business on the creating culture, all the things that make coronavirus really dangerous. Host salim furth on with us to talk about the effect of coronavirus on cities and urban areas across the country. A common headline we are seeing in fact, this morning in the hill, americans leave large cities for suburban areas and rural towns. It is early. Is data in to support that, and is there any idea on whether this will be a longterm trend after the pandemic . Guest we do not have enough data to really say that that is going on. You see some real estate is in is heavier in some places than others, and summer has its own patterns that go with the season. But i do not think we can say anything about the longterm trajectory of cities yet. Host the country got a good facing what challenges one of our largest cities, new york city as the lead point for the pandemic in this country. But what are some of those challenges that cities face, in particular, in responding to the pandemic . Guest i think it is first really important to recognize that cities are not uniquely dangerous in the coronavirus. So our densest and biggest city, new york, got hit really hard, but that is most because the virus showed up there very early and authorities were pretty slow to react. If you look at the other really big cities in the u. S. And the very dense ones like San Francisco and even los angeles, they handled things quite well early on. They have run into the same difficulties as every other place has with reopening. I think extremely rural areas where people do not have as many interactions, those are significantly safer. But suburbia does not appear to be safe. New york suburbs was hit harder than the city of new york. And lots of suburban and smalltown places have been hit really hard. Most of the variation so far comes with how early did the virus arrive and how well did your authorities respond to it and get people to wear masks, etc. Host the other another effect of the virus is the whole idea of remote working, working from home, working elsewhere that is not an office in a city or an urban area. Any idea yet on how that may play out in cities across the country . Up yeah, this is where we obviously do not yet have data, but i think we will see major changes in the future. I am speaking to you from my home, and i love working here. The desk where i am sitting is where i do my work every day. Believe, my daughters might tell you if this is correct, but i believe i am just as productive as i ever was in the office, and i get to save almost two hours a day in the time it would take to commute back and forth. And that time goes partly to more productivity, partly to more time spent with my family. And a lot of other people are in the same situation. And we are seeing this. Our bosses are are saying that we are just as productive. There is data to back that up, at least in the shortterm. I think a lot of people are going to want to continue to do this, even when it is not a necessity. Waysis going to change the that cities need to think about commuting and traffic and space the immediate coronavirus time we are living in right now. Host also playing that up a little bit, too, the cities need to think about, they do not have commercial space or office space being rented, there is no taxes being paid on that space. The retail space that may be associated with the business area also affected, not as many customers or perhaps the business not there at all, and that business not paying taxes. Guest that is right. And for a lot of cities, they are looking at a really big budget problem coming into the next year. What we recommend, my colleagues and i wrote a series of policy briefs, we recommend a radical level of flexibility with commercial spaces coming vacant. Sitting on empty restaurants, empty storefronts, and hoping and waiting that those businesses or ones that replace them will come back, that is not a winning proposition. And cities should really, really be radically flexible about if anybody wants to use those empty spaces for residential, for a different kind of business then the underlying zoning can contemplate, they should put those regulatory changes into effect to say anyone who can use this space productively is welcome here. And it if the upshot is somebody lives in a funny looking house with a great restaurant kitchen, you get a great dinner sometimes. Host our guest is salim furth with the urbanity project at George Mason Universitys mercatus center, talking about the effect of coronavirus on urban areas come on cities. If you live in an urban area, the line is 202 7488000. If you live in the suburbs, 202 7488001. And out farther than that, rural areas and such, that line is 202 7488002. As always, we welcome your comments on text at 202 7488003. An opinion piece with the headline, zoning adjustments could help cities rebound from how couldvirus zoning be used to help a city rebound, and how could it help provide Affordable Housing in those cities . Guest so there is a lot to criticize in zoning. I think it is fair to say that zoning is frequently used to micromanage space, to keep out the types of people that cities do not want, especially in the suburbs. But if we set that aside and look for the positive view of zoning, zoning helps to organize space in a sort of we have evolved to our city has a certain shape and things belong here, things belong there, and zoning helps with that. Suddenly coronavirus comes along and changes the way we commute, changes the way we shop, changes our tolerance for being in restaurants and bars, so those patterns, the ones that may have worked four months ago, no longer work. So instead of codifying the old ofilibrium and a strict set zoning codes, we need to change it. We dont know what is going to work a year or two or five years from now, so we cannot just zone very specifically for, ok, this is post coronavirus. So what we need to do is, in the spaces that are really part of every part of commercial retail, restaurant, office, open up the zoning there and say if you want to break down a j. C. Penney into some funky new withpace, the way they did Old Industrial loss and big cities in the 1960s, go for it. If you want to tear down the defunct chain restaurant with a huge parking lot, jackhammer it and build three houses. Go for it. As long as what youre doing does not introduce pollution or some other serious nuisance, you can reuse these spaces in any way that is productive. Then over time, we will figure out what the new equilibrium is. Right . Manhattan used to have sweatshops essentially everywhere. They called them lofts. These were nasty little places. But over time they went out of business, and estate kind of turned a blind eye they did not actually legally allow this, but they turned a blind eye to residential conversions, and those turned out to be very productive, and we are so thankful they did not bulldoze all those buildings and build sovietstyles apartment blocks, which was the alternative, or surface parking lots. Instead, they allowed reuse. Maybe those stripmall buildings are not so youthful as a 100yearold loft, but who knows what they will look like 100 years from now, and we should allow change where it might materialize. Host that is another question in terms of the strip malls, the malls, ones in suburban, once in urban areas, you mentioned j. C. Penney a moment ago, a company that during this pandemic has declared bankruptcy. What is the future for those Shopping Centers . Hard togain, it is very say they might come back as strong as ever, in which case plex pump does not hurt and we just a with our original pattern of use and the original occupants. Ms. A few months on the lease, works with the landlord, and goes back to business, great. But if we do not get that, we need to be prepared for many scenarios that are much worse. Im not privy to what j. C. Penney or any other retailer is looking at in terms of their internal numbers, in terms of how they think it is going to play out. But i know that there is an enormous amount that we do not know about how long we will have the sickness among us and how people will adjust their lifestyles. Host you touched on this a moment ago in terms of the financial situation for cities and budgeting for next year. What are the cities, particularly like a new york city, facing . Guest again, i do not know the numbers off the top of my head, but even new york announced that they are looking at major staff cuts. Athink every city is looking substantial cuts in what is coming in and substantial need a substantial increase in need in what is going out. So all those Retail Businesses at one point early in the pandemic 40 were not making rents. If you cannot make rent, your landlord probably cannot make taxes. Again, it will be different place by place, but the math is really ugly, at least for 2020. Host lets go to boston and hear from ronald, our first caller. Caller good morning, sir. Can you tell your host is he a doctor . Host our guest is not a doctor. Go ahead. Caller ok, you know it has my name in it. [indiscernible] coronavirus. Can you tell me where the name came from . It got most my name in there. Host no, i am sorry about that. We will move on to laurel, maryland, just outside of washington. Go ahead. Caller good morning. About two years ago here in pb county, our representatives willynilly changed sony and said in late changed zoning and said in poor areas, you cannot have a business except for a daycare. I was forced to open up a brickandmortar two years ago, and now they change the rules. Democrats do not want you to prosper. Sorry to hearry that, and that is a great point to make in respect to coronavirus. There are a ton of people who work out of their homes now, right . I do it. I do not need the countys permission to work from my home. I do not live in pg. I live right across the line in montgomery county. But if i lived in pg, the county would not be bothered at all that im doing business, that i am doing an interview from my own house but you are right, if i was selling something on the internet and had customers coming in my door, if i was selling something and pack this were leaving my house as well as arriving from amazon, than i could get in trouble. Or if i had one customer day come over say i was a tax consultant, and you can come over one customer at a time and we sit down at the Kitchen Table and look at your taxes, yeah, i can get in trouble for that. In a time and we are allowing everyone else to work from home, it is really a mistake to say that homebased businesses or Business Owners cannot also work from their home. So youre absolutely right, and this is a change that, at a minimum, counties should suspend enforcement as long as it is dangerous, literally dangerous, for some people to go out and do business in their normal places. Theink Going Forward, difference between a commuter and a Business Owner is very, very small, and we should not be regulating what people do in ways that do not affect their neighbors in their own homes. Thank you for the call. Host steve in hugo, minnesota. Say, i hadd morning. A question when you first started talking about taxes. , i guesserty owners any property, is foreclosed on or whatever, doesnt it just go back to the banks, and dont the banks pay the taxes . I was on city council for eight years and have asked this question numerous times. The banks paydo the taxes . I have always been told yes. So how come the banks are the banks paying the taxes or is it wrapped around on the bottom . I cannot get a clear answer on this. Host all right, steve. Salim furth . Guest great question the beginning of the process of foreclosure is the banks say, hey, youre behind on your lease and if you eventually do not pay up, we will take this property. A totally if happening,of this the bank takes it and miss forward. The bank does not want to take the property they want to use the foreclosure process to push the owner to make rent or adjust the tenant makes so that they thoseome in there and businesses can make rent and the owner can pay the lease. The banks do not want to end up with a ton of property. They learned this in the last crisis. Once they own a bunch of property, they cannot turn around and get rid of it all at once without flooding the market, and they really do not want any landlords. Sinceguess, especially this crisis is so clearly caused by outside factors, right, not a restaurants fault that people completely stopped going to restaurants, not that their food was bad, i think that the various people in the financial stacked are going to be very forbearance and are going to work with anyone who says, hey, i cannot pay you for 2020 because i got completely wiped out and the city would not even let me open or my customers completely stayed away, even after we reopened, i think people will understand that, and they are going to work with people who are willing to work in good faith Going Forward to try to make rent in the future. So i do not think you are going to see a lot of Bank Ownership unless it is a case where someone has been stumbling along for years, has been a terrible commercial tenant, and finally the bank is like, ill write, this is the last straw. They would have done that in normal times. Host we are talking about what the pandemic has done to cities and urban areas, but on twitter, another contributor pointed out, saying people are leaving the cities not because of a virus but because of the crime in the cities. After a weekend with a number of shootings and murders in cities across the country, a bigger issue than it used to be . Guest i actually have no idea whether crime is up or down this year, so i cannot speak to that. Int we will go to joe jennings, louisiana. Go ahead. Caller hi, thanks for taking my call. I am not a person that believes that there should be these conspiracy theories, but this is how it seems to us, we are working tough people in the my area, and my neighborhood has been a little bit lucky. Most people are still working. Where hospitality is bigger, we know their suffering a bunch. And in certain areas, the restaurants are. It is this crazy to believe all u. S. Was toohe strong financially, so they the virus here, and suspiciously at the same time we had to close down, so our economy went down, so you had millions of people with nothing to do, no jobs, and then why in the world is the Democrat Party not saying something about all the violence and civil unrest . I mean, i have been a democrat voter, but how can you support them with this going on . Do you think it is a conspiracy to really ruin our country . Because actually, i have a lot of black friends and not one of them ever told me that a statue bothered him. Host all right. Onim furth, you touched zoning about earlier. A question on twitter. Zoning and landuse have longterm effects. It has become fashionable to attack zoning regulations, but i bet all of those calling for open zoning would not want a meatpacking plant next door to them in their exclusive residential area spirit your thoughts . Guest before zoning, we had something called the law of nuisance. It is not perfect. Part of the reason we ended up in zoning is a lot of conditions did not protect meatpacking plants when somebody built a house next door. I am not saying we should go back to the law of nuisance as it was in 1916. But if a meatpacking plant open next to your house, you would not need to go to zoning, you would be able to to them with a nuisance violation if they were stinking up the air, making a ton of noise, having a huge number of trucks. I do not think the solution for america is to choose between what we have now and no zoning whatsoever. But i do think that we can look big public spaces, the strip malls, the office parks, and say, hey, if somebody wants to have an apartment at the back end of this office park, doesnt really hurt anybody else . We are not making anyone live there. But if someone says it is a great place to live, sure, why not . As long as it is safe and not going to fall down. If someone wants to switch a restaurant or retail store and ignore the kitchen in the back, do we really have a problem with that . Zoning does not allow even the sort of simple switches. I went to arlington, texass, commercial zoning code recently, and you can find all these examples where there are places where a restaurant is allowed but not a catering business. What if your restaurant cannot get customers through the door and you want to switch to catering longterm and say we want to throw plastic over the tables and just take food out . If you officially do that, then you are in violation of the zoning. That does not make sense. Arlington, texas, has places where you can sell guns but not have a Farmers Market and vice versa. I really do not know what is going on there. Host at the urbanity project, are you folks checking these changes during the pandemic of the exceptions that some cities are making to this and the changes that cities are making to accommodate for the pandemic . Guest cities have been focused on the short term which is appropriate for the 3, 4 months that we have been in the situation. So cities are doing some really laudable things like allowing restaurants to spread into their own parking lots. That makes perfect sense but it would not have been allowed without a special exception. They are allowing restaurants to use parts of wide sidewalks to allow more sidewalk dining. And in some places, they are expanding the street space for pedestrians and bicycles, which need to be more distant. People want to be six feet away but on a five foot sidewalk, you cannot do that, so taking a side lane of the road which is no longer congested because nobody is going anywhere and turning that into a bicyclepedestrian space. Does a great changes. I applaud the cities that are doing that. The same spirit that theyre applying now, flexibility is the ones they need to transfer to some of these longerterm thelems of, all right, when ppp loans expire, when the Business Owners finally say we are not coming back from this and put up the shutters, then you need to move that flexible attitude to your zoning, your permits process, and all the other things that slow down change in your city because right now or Going Forward the next year or two, we need rapid change we need to be able to evolve from the previous equilibrium to a new equilibrium. Not spent 10 years figuring out that were not going back. Host leroy in georgia, good morning. Impact here of the is the confusion of the mask situation. We are slowly starting to see businesses require that you wear a mask, but they are not saying what type of masks are required or even in some cases saying you do not have to have it on, you just have to have it hanging from your ear. Different things like that. So im wondering, where do you see that trend going in the future when it comes to mask requirements and enforcing the mask requirement . I was in alabama last weekend and they were attributing fines to not requiring a mask, but there is no guidance on what type of mask and what to cover, etc. Guest it is tricky. I do not think we should put businesses in a position of having to be the front line of making decisions. Going to have to enforce. But it is actually really helpful if the state or the city come in and say, hey, were dealing with a pandemic, we are requiring all businesses to make you wear a mask if you are indoors. Then the business can just say, hey, we have to follow the law here. It is no fun to be a Business Owner and have to tell a longtime customer, hey, bob, you cannot come in because you did not bring your mask. They can get some of those cheap surgical masks and hang them by the doors and say, hey, you forgot your mask today, i got one for you. Then you can say that the city makes me do it. I am not being mean. I really hate the way that masks have become political. Dumb. S coronavirus will affect you no matter what your Political Party is, and the purpose of a mask is not you, if you already had it or if you think that you are young and strong, like, hey, i dont mind if i get it and i would rather get it and get it over with so i can go see my grandma again. But there is somebody else next door who does not want to get it or has a preexisting condition or is really old to wear a mask, be polite. Easier on make it Business Owners. The lack of clarity coming from some of the highest sources of power really leaves it on cities and localities to step up and clarify the messaging. I think that cities can be really creative about how they communicate that they are not trying to create a culture of fear, that masks help businesses reopen. That is the big. People think masks and lockdown go together. No, when youre locked down, you do not need a mask in your own house. Masks are necessary for businesses. Host let me get your thoughts on an opinion piece in the wall street journal about how the workforce might evolve or change because of the pandemic, how covid19 might transform urban life. They write that knowledgeintensive industries have long been centered in cities and surrounding metropolitan areas where they have had the most access to a collegeeducated and high skilled workforce, but from milan to new york, high density, york, high density urban areas have been ground zero for the spread of covid19. Our cities losing the superstar status they have enjoyed for the last several decades . In the mid1990s, some predicted the internet would lead to the decline of cities because it would enable people to work and shop from home and get access to news and entertainment online. Instead of declining, cities have continued to generate the biggest levels of innovation and good jobs and a disproportionate share of the worlds talent. What do you think the pandemic desds for the growth of bo for the growth of cities . Milan was not the epicenter in italy, it was small where theref milan happened to be Chinese Workers that came over and brought the virus with them. It was not new york that was the hardest hit. It was the suburbs. I want to counter the narrative that cities are uniquely hardhit. If we are going to be speculating, i would say that the superstar aspects are going to continue to require facetoface interaction. People who are doing the very cutting edge of finance or fashion or computer programming, they are going to want that kind of personal touch that has been so important, and we really underestimated in the 1990s and have since realized information actually helps spread the best ideas faster. There is more payoff to generating the very best ideas. The places that generate the very best ideas facilitate interaction. The people that might leave cities are those that are not part of the innovation process. Those that are doing a routine an important job, but one that does not require coming up with new ideas. One that requires diligently following through on established procedures. Those kinds of jobs where you can be trusted to know the process well, come in for a week of training at the office, and then go back to your Hunting Lodge where you have always wanted to live in vermont and do your job from their. There. We could see a lot of middle and upper middle wage jobs get moved to remote status. I dont think we will see that innovation superstar aspect leave cities. Host lets go to this call from missouri. Good morning. Caller how are you all doing this morning . Host fine, thank you. Caller i live in missouri. Im in a world area. Rural area. None of the employees in any of nge stores i go into weari masks or gloves. That is a concern for me. Statesnoticed how many. Oronavirus is rising nobody is Wearing Masks. These are employees. There is no social distancing and walmart. That bothers me. Gloves. Y mask and i dont want to get it. That is my thought when i leave the house. Furth, any further thoughts . Guest talk to management. Send them a note. Let them know their practices are making you feel unsafe. Privatet part about the sector is a response to customers, and it does not have to go through a democratic process. Only 23 of our customers care about this, but they care enough to go somewhere else. I think that is important. Oris going to be 10 percent 20 of america that is going to be susceptible and at high risk of this. It is not going to vanish all at once. In ae going to be situation where for some people it is pretty scary. There are important customers and stakeholders and employees who really want to be able to participate in life and be safe. Getting back to these important connections that let us work ,ogether and support each other and masks are part of that. I validate your concerns. Host lets go to bill in texas. Good morning. Caller i live in a suburb of houston. My comment would be that i dont think this virus is going to go away. Businesses,ols and at school they have more frequent and Shorter Breaks throughout the year rather than the traditional holiday breaks they have now, we can spread the crowds throughout the year, and businesses and families. If businesses got away from the traditional lunch break and allowed employees to go to breakfast, lunch, and dinner, we could spread out the crowds at lessurants and allow for seating but more consistent patrons throughout the day. Guest those are great ideas. The spirit is flexibility. I am annot an area that expert in. All of those things seem logical. It is the land use, same attitude. We need to try new things. You should not just try to get back to what it was before. Lets allow evolution and the way we use private spaces and see what works. I think that is right. I hope you can share those thoughts with people who are in a position to experiment. Lets support our restaurants 11 00 a. M. Lunches. Host you mentioned this earlier, stew says this, i have seen proposals turning abandoned shopping malls into communities. Im aware of one in providence, rhode island. It is not typical. It is an almost 200yearold shopping center. It is this gorgeous vintage center. You can dig up photos of that. It is gorgeous. That is not what your typical indoor mall is going to be like. I think there is room for innovation. Of about a whole generation those places that are getting old and ready to be converted to something new. A lot of that was built cheaply. You might not actually enjoy living in a place that is built to those kinds of standards. It might be time to tear it down and build something new. We should be forcible about what we allowed to be built. Allowing someone to take out a strip center and put in town houses or manufactured homes, whatever works in your area. Find let that happen and the equilibrium that is going to work for us. Hello. You are on with salim furth. Caller thank you for taking my call. Im with a nonprofit that fights global poverty. Im concerned about the Coronavirus Response abroad, especially since coronavirus has caused an uptick in global poverty worldwide. How relevant to you think an increase in International Funding to fight covid19 is . Good, that sounds really but i dont have the expertise to weigh in on that. Together globally. Timesthe new york forline, chilling words that whenhey write the nations economy ground to a halt this spring, economists warned an avalanche of evictions was looming. The federal government and many states rushed to ban them temporarily. ,0 states including louisiana texas, colorado, and wisconsin have lifted their restrictions, and researchers have tracked thousands of conviction filings. Are set to expire at the end of the month. Anticipates the nearly 28 million households are at risk of being turned out on the streets because of job losses tied to the pandemic. I think of action is really difficult. It is painful to go through. We have a lot of elections in a normal year. There is no evidence so far that we are actually having an avalanche of evictions. Those fears are reasonable. Labou look at the eviction at princeton university, they started tracking data on convictions. They do a fantastic job. There are two interesting stats that make me down this tsunami story. If you go to the 2008 recession, there was no increase in evictions at that time despite unemployment more than doubling iod of peopler having no income. There was less federal support for people at that time. There was no increase in evictions. Why . From alook at it landlord perspective, all the sudden you cannot get good renters. You have no one who will show up who says i have a good income and a steady job. The landlords are worried just as much as the tenants are. They have their mortgage to pay. They would rather stay with a good tenant who has temporarily lost income but has been reliable, a good neighbor, and wait for that person to get back on their feet than go through the process of evicting, emptying the unit, repainting, and then roll the dice on finding one of the very few people who are looking for a new place to live and have tremendously stable employment right now. That is why we did not see one in the last crisis. So far in this crisis, there has not been an increase in legal evictions. Cincinnati, ohio, the county had its own moratorium. That expired june 1. If you look at the data, it is 2019 way below june of even though they had two months where evictions were filed. You would expect some pentup demand. There was not much pentup demand. There is not increasing demand now. They could always change. It could be that landlords are waiting and out, and they are going to lose patience in july, august, or september. Right now, the evictions have been below normal levels, not above normal levels. We have been cautious about predicting what is going to happen when the data are going against our priors. Host we will go to ned in idaho. Caller good morning. The weekend did not work out too well here in idaho. By such anrwhelmed influx coming out to the forests have three forest fires burning now. I heard they are shutting down all the parks in Washington State as well and across the border in oregon. Ofs is not going to work just leaving the cities. You are going to have to stay there and figure out the problems. Salem. Y appreciate we need guys like you with more nuanced thinking. Thanks for that call. We will go to roger in florida. Caller good morning. Thank you. Is core of everything that being spoken about is air quality or indoor air quality. Im not an expert. Becauseind of study did i have had a lot of dead time being off. The indoor air quality, it seems to me the way to address it is you cannot do much air improvement within the existing system of a building because thent have it set up contaminated air is traveling too far. You have to have systems that would be in the building to pu rify. I use hospital systems. Filters to control the air quality in their hospital. You can create a hepa filter by filter, hepa furnace duct taping it to a standard box fan is rated at 2000 cubic feet per minute of air exchange. If you deducted it down to 1000 due to resistance from the filter, you are still moving 10,000 cubic feet of air. Thoughts . Final we are hearing lots of good ideas from around the country. I think we are seeing this at the business level, at the city level. We are in a different time. Obviously, we all know this. Policymakers want to go back to what is safe and what they know. There is a certainty in the world. I think we need to face up to that. That world is probably not coming back. There is a good chance it is not coming back. Building and flexibility, changing the way we do homebased business, the way we think about commuting, the way we think about how you are space and use commercial development, changing the rules about whether you can build an apartment for a Single Person in your backyard, those are the kinds of changes we need our leaders to be thinking about. To ourzens, we can talk Civic Leaders and say dont try to keep us back in 2019. It is not coming back. Let me do something differently. Lets change the rules and find an equilibrium where we can Work Together safely and prosper. S georgelim furth head mason universitys mercatus center. We will go back to your comments on the rise in cases across the country and how it has impacted your community. We will take calls on that for a bit. Eastern and central time zones 202 7488000. Mountain and pacific 202 7488001. Ahead, we will speak with robert lge, who is with the association. He will talk about how covid19 is impacting Nursing Homes and alzheimers patients. Binge watch booktv this summer. Settle in and watched several hours of your favorite authors. Saturday, we are featuring the founder of the National Review william f buckley, author of more than 100 books, including liberalism. Activiste author and malcolm gladwell. Watch booktv on cspan2. , available nowts in paperback and ebook. Presents biographies of every president , organized by their ranking from best to worst. Visit our website, cspan. Org thepresident s. Order your copy today, wherever books and ebooks are sold. 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Hospital, Morton Plant Hospital in clearwater, and Advent Health north had no icu beds available saturday. Thetampa bay times reported Data Collected by the agency for health care administration. To your calls. We will go first to cedric in boston. Good morning. Caller good morning. I wanted to make a comment about President Trump. He used his whole fourth of july weekend talking about statues, and people are dying from this disease. Job. Ur this guy cannot even do a job. All these sick people worrying about going back to work, told not to wear a mask. We are going to fire his behind. In texas. Is good morning. Caller how are you . Host fine, thanks. Caller my comment pertains to all the violence we are having across the country. Apparently, people have forgotten the history of this country. Im old enough to remember what we were taught when we went to , and wes youngsters read history books that they are not reading today. The civil war was not fought over slavery at all. Passed the slavery law completely separate from the revolution issuedresident lincoln the emancipation proclamation in the midst of the civil war. Caller exactly. It did not have anything to do with what started the war. States were basically a farming community, raising crops. When we sold the crops, the andhern majority taxed the enormoused, taxes on the food that we produced. The riled up the south to point where we could not really make a living. So we had a civil war. Host this is the front page of the Washington Times this morning. White house angers state and local officials with virus message. They say u. S. Steered out of a coronavirus maelstrom in the spring but faces a summer of sorrow if they cannot control the fallout from early reopening and lax compliance with federal safety tips that have been undermined at times by the white house with large crowds gathering for Independence Day celebrations. Mayors said their hospitals will be overwhelmed if transmissions continue to rage. On twitter, he tweeted this, has Bubba Wallace apologize to all those great nascar drivers that came to his aid and were willing to sacrifice everything for him only to find out the whole thing was just another hoax . Flag decision has caused the lowest ratings. He must be referring to the decision by nascar to ban the Confederate Flag at their races. Also this, china has caused great damage to the u. S. And the rest of the world. Charles in north carolina, welcome. I was calling about the virus. That is the subject. I dont know who the caller was, but they said something about recommendnot masks. Yes, he did. Its left up to the people. Some of these counties and cities are not requiring people when they go into the store to wear a mask. I think they should, absolutely. I was in one the other day. Everyone had a mask except for one couple. Laughing. In there they were young. I think they just think they cannot get it. It needs to be stressed with these young kids, you can get the virus, to. O. Im sick and tired of people putting my president down. He has done everything he could do about this virus. This is a problem with china. Obamaerstanding is that paid millions of dollars to that whitefore he left the house or after. Im wondering if this was not another gimmick by the democratic party. Im telling you, they are something else. Host lilly, good morning. Caller good morning. I wanted to offer a rural perspective. I will just go ahead. There is a woman down the street that raises foster children. About 15. M is a boy, one night i was coming home late. I seen him sitting up at the local country store. It was midnight. I knew he was not supposed to be out there. I pulled up there. I know his foster mom. I just got out and started talking to him. I guess he ran out from her. He talks like any teenage boy will, pretty openended and freely. There was a heaviness that got to him when he said, i wish we were still in school. You could tell. It was strange because hes a 15yearold boy wishing he was back in school. Theres a lot of untold stuff like that going on right now. You know. It doesnt get talked about. Theres lots of stuff like that that should just be appreciated for the human vulnerability of it. We go next to pennsylvania. This is jim. Caller this is jim. Hello . Host you are on. Go ahead. Caller all this covid stuff this all the radical people out there that are spreading this stuff. That is where it is coming from. Is and they just dont know it. Host robert is next in kentucky. Caller yes, sir. I was thinking about how george bush, the first bush, was talking about the new world order. There is 7 billion people on this planet. , in as bad shape as it is, how much better this planet would be if there was only like 1. 5 billion or 2 billion people . This covid thing would be a Good Opportunity to let all the go ahead andidiots do their thing. Dont wear masks. Get with all these other people. If they die off, that leaves more for us. Host we talked about the destruction of monuments on yesterdays washington journal. The Frederick Douglass statue vandalized in upstate new york park. Statue has been toppled and destroyed in upstate new york on the 116th anniversary of his most famous antislavery speech. Good morning. Tennessee is a small rural area. Our largest retail facility is walmart. You can go to walmart. You can have the mask on and gloves. 90 of the people and walmart are not required to wear a mask. The mask does help detect each other. My question goes to walmart. Why do you not require masks on your customers . Ahead on washington journal, we will be joined by robert egge of the Alzheimers Association talking about how covid19 is affecting Nursing Homes and alzheimers patients as washington journal continues on cspan. 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Good morning. Thank you for being here on washington journal. Guest great to be here. Host what has been the role of the Alzheimers Association during the pandemic . Guest our primary role is to support those with dementia and their caregivers. That has brought us right to the front lines of the covid pandemic. As we will talk about, many of those with alzheimers and dementia happened to be at the highest risk of covid19. To early thisback year as the pandemic was becoming known. The first cases in the u. S. Being identified in february. How did your organization brace for what was to come . We were watching the news about covid19 and thinking in operational terms. Ofhave a very large Group Advocates from around the country fly into washington, d. C. That takes place in march. We were looking at whether it was responsible for us as an organization to ask people to come in to washington for this event. In hindsight, it is a clear decision. At the time as we were watching these developments, the first cases identified in the u. S. , we were figuring this out by talking to Public Health authorities and other sources. It quickly became apparent that was not a good idea. One of the things we were learning quickly as we had the first cases in the u. S. And the , in washingtons state, in a longterm Care Community. We saw who was vulnerable. Not just does this impact our operations as it would impact people across the country, but a distinctive role for us to play in safeguarding those at highest risk. Lets see what your thoughts are on the comment of a viewer on twitter saying, it seems that Nursing Homes were caught sitting on their hands when the pandemic first began, did not take precautionary measures or were too busy counting their profits. They abdicated their responsibility to protect their vulnerable residents. What are your thoughts . Guest i dont see it that way. The way i see it is the world was caught on their hands. Its largely unproductive in those early months to look backwards. Across the board, we were scrambling to adapt to an unprecedented situation. This certainly hit Nursing Homes hard. The stories we have read about what his and folded in many of these what has unfolded in many of these communities is deeply disturbing. They are often deeply attached as workers as much as family or others. It has been a very difficult situation. These cases are unacceptable. Without pointing fingers, that does not change the fact that what is going on in these communities has to be a top priority. Some fats make this clear. Saw, we areent i trying to piece together with incomplete information what is going on. It was reported by the New York Times about a week ago. The basic facts are striking. Livethan 1 of americans in these kinds of settings. Longterm care nursing home settings. 10 of cases are people who are within the settings. West than 1 live there. 10 of cases. 43 of deaths are among this 1 nationwide. 43 of those who have died across the country have been among those less than 1 living in these communities. We are not talking enough about this issue. Our guest is robert eg ge. We welcome your calls and comments. We have broken the lines out by time zone. Eastern and central 202 7488000. And pacific 202 7488001. If you have had experience with alzheimers, you or a Family Member or friend, 202 7488002. Give us a definition on alzheimers, what that means, what it encompasses. Does that expand into other forms of dementia . Uset it is a term we often somewhat interchangeably. Havet 5 million americans alzheimers disease. It is a disease of the brain. There are other diseases of the brain that also cause dementia. Dementia is basically the symptoms of cognitive decline. When you cannot think the way you once did. Those are common presentations of it. Essentially that is what dementia is. Alzheimers is the largest cause of dementia. Dementia of cases of are caused by alzheimers disease. There are other important contributors. There are cardiovascular causes of dementia, strokes, for instance. Back to the issue of Nursing Homes. Why covid19 took a devastating homes, people in nursing what was the number one factor . Guest the number one factor, im tempted to cheat and say two of them. The number one factor is that Nursing Homes tend to have the most Vulnerable People susceptible to deaths from covid19 as a factor of their age and Underlying Health conditions. If i were disciplined and stick to just one, that is the one i would choose. Ast i lost you there for second. Finish up your thought. Guest i do want to cheat and say a second cause. The fact that the settings where these wonderful people are, we know this is a major cause. How likely are you to get exposed to covid19, and then what happens when you are exposed to this virus . That first part, how likely you are to be exposed, that is where a lot of problems came. You have People Better living very close together. Something we call congregant care settings. People are sharing rooms. People come in and out of these communities. The second part that i mentioned , once you have that exposure, how vulnerable you are because of your age and other health conditions. That combination has caused these terrible cases host . These terrible cases. Host from what you have seen, were most Nursing Homes prepared to deal with it . Guest i dont think so. Who was prepared . I have not met that person yet. That applies to Nursing Homes at the front lines. Hospitals at the front lines. Absolutely right there with them. The interplay between hospitals and Nursing Homes has been one of the toughest scenarios. Hospital, when to move them back into a nursing home. That is where we have seen some of the most difficult problems arise. Host you are the policy director for the Alzheimers Association. We have been talking this morning about the surge in cases across the country. Part of the recommendations for your organization was surge activation. As hotspots occur, they have to be dealt with quickly. If conditions warrant, strike teams will be employed by the facility to provide needed support until the outbreak is contained and eliminated. It looks like we are in one of those times where a surge is happening. What are you looking for across the country . Guest one of our principal recommendations is the ability to respond rapidly. Is that aental notion can be doing as they should. Nonetheless, it can be as that first case develops, what needs to happen even if it is a single case . We should treat it as a crisis. We should do everything we can to get on top of it. Nursing homes can have a lot of expertise within their facility. Some of them are quite good at this. Some are not. Regardless, they should be able to tap into outside support that can be rapidly deployed. Make sure that person receives the best of care, but is no risk to others, whether they be workers, residents, or others. We have people responding and providing outside support to supplement that nursing home as rapidly as possible. Host several congressional measures have been passed into law. Has enough been done . Enough Financial Support given to Nursing Homes across the country . Guest i dont think so yet. We are all figuring out what is needed. There is more that is needed. There have been important provisions in each package so far. Pending in the senate is the next major package. This idea of strike teams, having more funding to provide that. Some have been innovators. Some have shown they can be very powerful. Some have shown they can be complicated. That concept is going to be a key part of our solution. As a reminder, we have a special line for those of you who have experience with alzheimers or dementia, you personally, your family, a close friend. 202 7488002. First is steve in alabama. Stroke my mother had a almost two years ago. My sisters and i have been with her every day of the week for a year and eight months. We were all locked out. My complaint is the nursing home, they have a lot of patience. I can understand how they would want to do Everything Possible to save the lives of the patients, but they put everyone time theyat the same ,ave got all of their employees a tremendous number of employees in three shifts seven days a week, they are going in and out getting their temperature checked. They have had one test since this started. I have had one test since this started. Can i go in and see my mother . She still has her mind, but she is like a threeyearold. Looking through the glass and talking on the phone does not cut it because she cannot hear good enough. Every time she sees me or her outside, sheg cannot hear the phone. She gets frustrated. She starts crying. She always motions with her one good hand. She waves at us to come inside and visit with her. Host sorry to hear about that. Guest thank you for calling in. One person captured it poignantly, just like your called it. Call did. In some cases we are saving people from covid19 only to lose them to social isolation. We should all be deeply concerned for the reasons you outlined. It can be a health issue. When theyat people are isolated, especially those with dementia, can decline much more quickly and perhaps never recover. It is important that we are able to allow those in these settings to be together with their loved ones. We also have to be deeply concerned about protecting them. This dilemma is a terrible one. The way we put together recommendations hinges on this. The other way i think about it is every analogy has its problems. Basically, you want to protect homes almost like a walled castle. Out,u can keep the virus and the unknowns of who has it is how it comes in. Out,u can keep the virus that is a promise. You have many Vulnerable People you can protect together if you can keep them separated from the virus. When you do that, if you do it in a way that you just stop there, nobody wants to be inside of a walled castle, cut off. Especially if you cannot understand what is going on because of dementia. We have to do better than that. That is what leads us to emphasize the foundation for making this work beyond treatments and vaccines, which are critical, and we fully call for and support. We need testing. Not the kind of testing that gives you results a week later. We have testing that needs to be better at the point of care where you can get results rapidly within 15 minutes to an hour. This is the standard we need to reach so we can have visitors come once weers know that facility is free of infection so we dont have to stop people coming in. We are not ready to do that yet, but we have to be ready because that is what we need to be successful. Very important initiatives going on right now funded by congress, which we deeply appreciate the work that is going on to develop these kind of capabilities. That needs to be at every single longterm Care Community across the country. Frank,ets hear from arizona. Caller my mother, i have not been able to see her for months. Spike. She isbig in a special ward for these illnesses. Been able to see her through a window or anything. Taketherinlaw, we dont him anywhere because he likes to go to the stores because he is sick, and we are afraid of him getting covid. There is nothing we can do. It hurts for me not to be able to see my mother. I worry how she is doing. They dont tell you anything. How do you get information from her . Do you have to call the nurses . Do they give you regular updates . Caller my brother is the one who is power of attorney. He calls when he can. He will let us know how she is doing. They dont tell you too much. I want to see her face. She recognizes your face. She will stare at you. I miss my mom. Host what is your guidance for how families can better advocate for their parents, loved ones, in Nursing Homes, dementia awards, or otherwise . Im an advocate at heart. If i did notmiss say call your members of congress. Angrily,ot have to be but call them with the urgency of what is going on. Look them up on the internet. With your stop federal numbers. Tell numbers of congress how important this is. Then call your state representative. Reach out to your governors office. Policymakers need to hear from us right now. They want to know that americans need this to be a number one priority. That is my fundamental piece of advice. Many are approaching this in different ways. Im sure they know about your eagerness to see your loved one. They are in a difficult situation. There are some innovative approaches that work in some cases. An example of this would be one we are involved in, project vital with the state of florida. We have been working with them to provide tablets. Be some schedule when you cannot be there with that person, at least you can connect digitally. Depending on that present, that might or might not be the right solution. In many cases, it does. Be part of our solution even as we are looking for the fundamental solution so you can get in safely with your loved ones again. Egge,our guest, robert serves as the chief policy officer for the Alzheimers Association, heading the alzheimers study group, serving on the Hhs Task Force Advisory Council on alzheimers research. What connects you to alzheimers . Guest if i were to try to connect it in terms of this conversation, when i was in college, most of us have a story like this. Family provided care to our elderly grandmother. It turned out that the right place for her at the very end of residential in a setting that provided excellent righto her and was the environment for her as her dementia progressed. That left a real impression on me. Years later, working on health meicy, it became clear to the most was one of neglected crises facing our country, both what was happening then and now and where alzheimers was going. Already large numbers of people are dealing with alzheimers either directly or as a care provider, that number is set to increase in ways that are analogous to covid19 in a slowmotion but massive way. By 2050, the numbers of alzheimers could triple as baby boomers age. Facts that drew me into focusing on this as my passion to deal with this issue. Many of the things i have found interesting about covid19 connected to alzheimers, fundamentally what we need to do is we need a treatment, whether it is alzheimers or covid19. That is something we are not too good at doing as a country. We are not too good at seeing in the moment the wisdom of investing aggressively to avoid now and into the future. Alzheimers, we have a lot more to do, but we have had tremendous progress because of bipartisan support from congress that has quintupled support for ofheimers to the kind program that allows us to advance multiple Research Strategies to address this disease so we do not have to talk about it anymore. In the same way that congress is doing covid19 a massive influx of funding. About whatou talk you might describe as significant investments in alzheimers or covid19, it pales in comparison to what we are spending to deal with the consequences of it. Covid19, what we are spending, the best we can tell 100 of what we have already spent from the federal government to deal with this disease. We are still a fraction of what we are currently paying to deal with this, let alone the quality of life issues we are talking about. Host we will go to jasmine, texas. Caller thank you and good morning. Toquestion is in reference the poverty aspect. Im an advocate for the organ project oregon project. What could be the overall impact of covid19 on alzheimers Patients Living in poverty in developing countries . Guest that is an interesting question. An important question. I have not been focusing as much on these issues overseas. Up a little bit from an alzheimers and dementia perspective. We know that this is a massive problem in every country. Uteis especially ana c problem for societies where people have tended to live longer. Of lifeage age poorer countries is increasing, and as that happens in india and china and concerns causing great how those countries are going to provide care and support. Issue tied withn poverty. Most countries dont have the supports,rks of formal networks of support, Nursing Homes and others. I think it is a really good question that leads to an important area of focus that we need to be thinking about the in ourat alzheimers country has tremendous economic toll on families, whether that is because a caregiver decides it is time to put somebody into a residential setting, or they foreve the best solution their loved one is to keep them at home. That can be expensive in terms of someone leaving the workforce you their way, even in a will be country like ours, on average a wealthy country, even here, its a tremendous economic strain. Lets hear from karen in tulsa, oklahoma. Good morning. My husband is a vietnam veteran and he has been diagnosed with alzheimers for the last almost three years. He had been receiving a payment , but becauseystem of covid, since march, we have not been able to participate in that. I have some health issues, so i have not been able to do some of the things that he would receive in a daycare situation but im worried about putting him into a nursing home situation based on things that are going on, all the comments that have been made this morning. Right. , didnt mean to cut you off but it is a story that is happening nationwide. Recommend, where there is a right kind of program can be an adult day important part for someone living with dementia the best they can, finding experiences in those settings. We hear that quite often. Ande cut off from that, what that does to you as a caregiver, tending to your own needs, it is taught. Tough. I understand why they feel the need to cancel, bringing people like that together can not be saved, particularly for those individual to congregate like that, and then go back home to other settings. Understanding the reason why they did and why that is the right publichealth stance, but also understanding what a terrible burden that must be for you and for him as well not to have access to that program. It goes back to the things that we talked about. Your point is a great one also in terms of expanding this conversation beyond where it needs to focus on longterm care, but more generally, as people make choices to stay out of those settings, as you are considering that is one consequence. Thoser consequence is People Living in the community, lets see what the effects are of not living in a longterm setting. We have got to make sure that we are not neglecting this part of the story as well. Imagine,ally, i would for a case like yours, we have to accelerate things like vaccinations, better care, and testing. That is the only path forward that i can see right now for this. As i mentioned, the federal hearnment they need to people in congress appropriating funds. Im familiarhat with is the rapid acceleration of diagnostics for covid19. 1. 5 billion in funding several months ago. The whole point of this program is to make sure that we have, by september 1, access to those kinds of tests i described. Day setting. Ult you would hope you could go get tested, and if it is valid in to, in terms of sensitivity pick up the disease, you could drive around for a half hour, get the results on your smart phone, and then know if it is safe to bring your loved one. That is not science fiction. That could be just months off, and could change the story here, but it only happens with aggressive and disciplined investment involving the federal government with the private sector to make that happen. That is what we have to continue to urge congress to fund and support. Host some numbers from the Alzheimers Association, 5. 8 million americans aged 65 and older are living with alzheimers. It is the sixth leading cause of death in the u. S. Alzheimers and other dementias costing the u. S. 305 billion. Americans16 million provide unpaid care for those patients. Back to your calls, larry in indiana. Hi. Caller hello, robert. My name is larry. My mother passed away from progressive alzheimers. There are two kinds, progressive and slow. Comments. When i put my mother in a nursing home, she had a federal pension and medicare. The Nursing Homes got that. She had the title to her house. My son is a physician, he said, homen attorney, have the assigned over to you, and the car. When i went in to fill the paperwork out in the nursing home, you could see their jaw dropped when i said i had a title to the home and car. Some Nursing Homes are just in it for the money. Sometimes they have three people in one room. The further you go into the nursing home, you get the stench of urine. You can tell a good nursing home from a bad one, just by the smell. You known smell urine, it is a bad nursing home. I dont think they have enough registered nurses in these Nursing Homes. They have a lot of nursing aides with maybe a year or two of college, but if these Nursing Homes could pay a good salary for registered nurses, i think they would be better run. The state should have a strikeforce for accreditation, like hotels. A person can look online to find their best nursing home. Had progressive. It is a very simple test. I could not believe it when i was in the room, the doctor giving my mom the test. Not do host i will let you go there. Several ideas. Robert egge, your comments . I have heard people say, people are in it for the money. It is a tough place to make money. I dont know if that is necessarily the driver. Industry, aany variety of motivations by Business Owners. Would not expect this industry to be any different from that. But that said, a lot of people who choose to make this their career, they would be easier places to make money. It is a demanding setting to work in. And it is expensive. The cost of providing this kind between the workforce that is needed, all the different factors, it is pretty expensive. What is our believe as a country, how much should we prioritize this . Supportnt to have as a for those who cannot afford this and for many americans, it is life int to spend your a setting that you would like. It is expensive. Conversationnwide thats been happening that is long overdue. Whatever consensus we reach as a country, we need to reach it together. What sort of consequences are we willing to deal with based on that decision. And thank you for others saying that quicklyrs can progress in some people, slowly and others. That is true what you described. Once you are at the point of symptoms, there are some good tests that physicians can administer to get a pretty good sense of what is going on, when you reach that point. The other thing i want to policy on is more of a transparency. What isity to know going on in these residential settings, is an important one. The agency and the federal is the federal, agency that works with state agencies, totheir regulate Nursing Homes. They have started to have some steps to provide that same credentialing. Where you have to report and the public can look at it. I think we need to do more in that area, building on that foundational work. That is absolutely true with covid19. One thing that struck me early on, we are trying to piece and thesedata are human lives and we are talking about in terrible circumstances but the data of what is going on in certain homes, in some places, it is impossible to tell what is going on. I am in my home, just like everyone else in this area. I was told on my phone where my amazon package was. If we could have that kind of technology for a book coming my way and not be able to tell that in the same member who, across the country, whatever it may be, that is not a technology problem. That is a priority problem that we have not developed that yet. There is nothing technologically standing in our way to have that same kind of transparency. Right now in the state of virginia, where i live, the best we can tell, about 60 of the deaths in these states have been in longterm care settings. The last i checked, it was only reporting at the state level, not setting by setting. I dont think that is right. The stated reason for this was concerned about privacy. I am presuming other states are reporting at the facility level and have figured out how to do so. I dont hear that as a concern among families. It is not a solution itself, but it is important, and should be , and with that protection of privacy, we should have an expectation of what is going on in these facilities, in these communities and homes across the country. Host harold is in california. Good morning. Caller good morning. I have heard alzheimers is caused by plaque on the brain. If that is true, could the plaque be coming from the water with chloramines in the water andh contains ammonia, ammonia will not disappear until it goes into the ground and , canadato nitrates nitrates be turning into plaque . Host we will get a response from robert egge. Guest i would be in trouble if i went to far on this with my y scientific colleagues. I have not heard that one, personally. But there are some important points that i could tie to this. Increasing federal funding. We know quite a lot about alzheimers and other dementias but there are things that we dont know in the way that we need to to get the treatments that we need. Alzheimers is one of the top 10 causes of death today in the u. S. Some things that are encouraging and emerging. Bit at aarning quite a rapid pace about the things that we can do to slow alzheimers. Is we are seeing strong evidence emerging that simply controlling your Blood Pressure can help. That,re general point on maybe we cannot say with certainty yet the way that we would like to soon, and maybe funding from the federal government will allow us to, but there are some wise things that you could do right now out of concerns of alzheimers. One is working with your health care provider, doing the most physical activity that is safe for you, wherever you are in life. It is never too late. Whenwith your provider on you can do to be active. Even if you been diagnosed with alzheimers, there is reason to believe it can be helpful in that case, too. The second thing is diet. We need more authoritative evidence, but generally speaking, eating healthy is a good decision, if you are concerned about this. Making some good, solid decisions about that. I wont go further there, but that is a promising area where the Alzheimers Association is studying now to say more definitively about what is the right recipe. The right style of eating to help. Eating healthy is a good idea, cutting out sugars. You cannot go wrong. If not for alzheimers, we know that it attributes diabetes. The last thing is sleep. I know sometimes you cannot sleep the way that you would like to, but to the extent that you can be disciplined, sleep as best you can. Prioritize it. That seems to be an example of where the science is heading regarding dementia. Egge, chief public officer for the Alzheimers Association, thank you for being here. We will you continue with your calls on the covid19 crisis in the country. For those in the eastern and central time zones. Mountain and pacific, 202 7488001. Tonight on the communicators, u. S. Telecom president and ceo talks about the affect the coronavirus is having on telecommunications. 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Here is what the wall street journal is reporting about that. Eateries worry about new virus hits. Bey worry that they could reeling from a second punch that could put them out of business. Many restaurants are bracing for another round of restrictions as a resurgence in coronavirus cases in the u. S. Crimes a pullback in reopening plans. They write, numerous states and cities halted or rolled back reopening plans for bars and restaurants amid a surge in covid19 cases and suspicions by Public Officials that ground crowds gathering could be contributing to the spread. Olympia, washington. Raj, you are first up. Caller good morning. Thank you for taking my call. I have some comments about the covid virus in general, how it impacts the United States. First of all, the covid virus is just a cold, a very advanced cold. I had thisses argument about my son about this the other day. If people could stop smoking, drinking, eating gmo foods, sugary drinks and so does, das, start taking vitamin c, vitamin d3, zinc, magnesium, essential oils certain essential oils kill this virus easily. There are a few countries like egypt that have employed these practices and have wiped out the virus. In china, when people were in the hospital, they treated them with vitamin c. All the research is out there about how the right supplements, essential oils, kill this virus. Kills the virus. Clove oil kills the virus. Host there is research out there that says close oil or fish oil kills the virus . Caller not fish oil. That is something that you can take to improve your health. The same with be complex. There is research out there that shows when they take vitamin d3, levels are high. The people that were really sick with the virus in china, they started giving them high dose vitamin c. Vitamin c is like crucial. Host we will move on to clarksville, tennessee. Carol . Caller good morning. Thank you to cspan and other networks staying on the air during this covid season. I know it is a challenge trying to bring the message to the American People. 1918 . F this was back in we would be in a truly terrible mess. Say, we will not see until we so weak get a consistent message across the country. The states are on their own, it is like the wild west. People are not getting consistent messaging across the country. Wear ahey say mandatory mask, 14day quarantine you , weyour food, medications are closing down for 14 days that we will start to see that curve go down in regard to the covid. Right now, we are just going up and up. I called the other day and i was speaking about the situation where rome was falling. I should have said nero. The country is on fire. We are going to lose our place as it relates to our standing in the world as a world power because of ignorance and because of selfishness. Together on our act those points, move away from selfishness and , if we dontzement have people, we dont have an economy. Host to let you know, we expect some opinions from the Supreme Court. This may be the last week that the court is in session this term. Still some key cases to be decided, cases to be released. This is the front page of the Washington Times. The conservatives say chief Justice Roberts is trying to strike a balance so the high court not appear to political. Critics say that balancing act is falling short and is resulting in inconsistent records that appears to be more political than rooted in a particular jurisprudence. Stilltes that liberals view the chief justice a staunch conservative, unlike Justice Anthony kennedy, the court to venerable swing vote for decades, until his retirement in 2018. Cspan cameras at the court for potential reaction to decisions announced by the justices. That should be coming up shortly after 10 00 eastern. Lets hear from charlie and palm city, florida. Caller thanks for cspan. Inanted to get a question earlier for robert but i didnt get a chance. I wanted to mention a New York Times article on may 22 about the testing chaos in one of the labs. There are a lot of labs out there that cannot get the test kits. What was in the article was minorities, especially in rural counties, or having three times the rate of covid19 deaths then people that are more welloff and white. An interesting article, they went through 15 different states. The problem was, over half of the states did not require ests, theye ppe, t didnt even check peoples temperatures before coming in. It seems like in a High Risk Group like that, it seems like the first place then you would put the money into to protect your staff and patients. I guess the Insurance Companies or the people that own the Nursing Homes simply love these states to keep these requirements out. I have relatives in kentucky. 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