Reform as well as several nights of unrest that involved looting. As we cover these events, we are keeping our eye on the upcoming primary that falls on june 23 for many states, including for congress, for state senate, assembly. The people elected to these offices are grappling with serious issues here and all around the country. Tonight, were holding a democratic primary debate for new yorks 14th congressional district, which covers part of queens and the bronx. As you can see on the map, this stretches across several neighborhoods including a story a, jackson heights. The seat is currently held by alexandria ocasiocortez we also she joins us tonight. We have also invited some of the leading candidates challenging her to this debate. We are joined by Michelle Caruso cabrera and Community Leader and activist activists badrun khan. The rules have been agreed to by the candidate. You can see the full debate on nyone. Com we are taping this on thursday, june 4. Now on to the opening statement. The order was determined by random drawing. Michelle Caruso Cabrera will go first. Good evening. Good evening. Thank you for hosting this. It is greatly appreciated. These are troubling times for the country. We need to come together as we grapple with the murder of george floyd and the impact it has had. We need unity. The choice voters face could not be more clear. I am about unity and my opponent is about divisiveness and polarization. She was the only democrat to vote against 75 billion for hospitals. 25 billion for coronavirus test ing in the middle of a pandemic when we needed it. I would never do that. She worked against nancy pelosi. She voted against hundreds of billions of dollars for paychecks. When i am out delivering food, masks, hand sanitizer, talking my neighbors who are out of work and desperate to go back out as soon as it is safe, i cannot believe that. You know what they tell me . They tell me aoc is mia. Her polarization is not good for the times, not good for new york, and it is not good for our neighborhoods. Thank you. Thank you for inviting me to this debate. I decided to run about a year ago because we still have a lot of issues of jobs, housing, and health care. District 14 is the epicenter of the epicenter of the coronavirus covid19. That is why a support universal basic income which will allow 1000 for people who could give their kids who do not have food now because of Food Insecurity that is happening in my district is sad. The lines are insane. We do not have enough hospitals in my neighborhood. It is important that we find more hospitals. Everyone was driving to elmhurst. I want to talk about equality in income we just do not have. With what is happening now my heart goes out to George Floyds family. And everyone in this situation. After i saw the video, i said, i cannot breathe. We need to all come together and put the Country First and unite everyone together. Currently, we have a lot of issues with covid19, people are losing people. We need peace and we need to stand together to protect the people of our district. Thank you. Next is alexandria ocasiocortez. To all the new yorkers tuning in right now. In this moment, were in a desperate crisis. A pandemic inside a pandemic and inside a pandemic. The pandemic of racism inside the pandemic of extreme economic inequality and desperation. Prompted by the pandemic of covid19. One of the things we are learning from all of these pandemics, the brutal murder of george floyd or the inability of our undocumented brothers and sisters in our communities to be afraid to go to the hospital is they are pointing to existing inequalities in our system have been set ablaze. The problems are not new. They require new Systemic Solutions and it requires the Democratic Party to step up and advance notions Like Health Care as a human right, medicare for all, ending qualified immunity to stop police, and making sure we are continuing to guarantee and and dignified pay working conditions for every new yorker without leaving anyone behind, including with respect to immigration status. I have always fought for these issues. I am not new to them. Iran on them in 2018. Every promise i made i have delivered upon and i am proud to championed our community the rest of the country wanted to leave behind. Errol thank you. Candidates, thousands are in the streets marching for police reform. At this moment, as a matter of fact. What public actions have you taken since the disturbances began, and if elected, what actions would you take in the district and in the halls of congress to address these protesters concerns . We are going to start with you, ms. Caruso cabrera. If i was in congress right now, i would be working with nancy pelosi to bring issues legislation forward that addresses key issues like criminal justice reform. But that is not enough. Weve seen terrible racial inequities play out in the Health Care System as we have seen africanamericans and latinos ravaged by covid19 and that is due to decades when it of injustices when it comes to unequal spending with health care and education. I would be in congress showing national leadership, working with nancy pelosi to bring a bill forward that addresses those issues. Unlike my opponent who works unlike my opponent who works against her and works against everybody in the party, we cannot move forward and we cant move a bill forward unless we all Work Together. Thats what we need right now, unity, and thats what i would be about. Making sure we address all of the issues that have come to the forefront, that weve known about but have never been justified and never been rectified. Now, we can do that if we Work Together. Say a little more please about what you have been doing in the district. Ms. Caruso cabrera from day one, i started delivering food to frontline workers, masks, hand sanitizer, 100 gallons of hand sanitizer, nearly 20,000 masks. Weve delivered them to organizations that support the elderly because i knew they would be some of the most affected, also churches in queens and the bronx to make sure they are distributed to the neediest. Ive been out there everyday. Do you know what Community Leaders tell me . They tell me aoc is mia. The worst part is at the height of the crisis, when we saw lines in front of elmhurst hospital, my opponent, who promised to be present when she ran, she didnt come home. She stayed in her luxury apartment in washington, d. C. For a full week even though congress was not in session. How could she do that . Moderator thank you rep. Ocasiocortez i will start by answering the question you asked, which is what policy commitments would we make . One is ending qualified immunity which Shields Police officers and abusive members of all Law Enforcement from covering up inhumane abuses. It covers up constitutional abuses. No one who hurts another human being intentionally should be shielded. Commit to isng to ending the transfer of military equipment to local police departments. They are not equipped for it, they are not trained for it, and police are not military. The third thing i think we should do on a local level, but one i am actively engaged in in advocacy for is the reduction of truly talking about the reduction for our nypd budget and defunding the 6 billion nypd budget. That costs us looks in the hands of our children and costs very badly needed investment in Public Housing. With respect to this allegation of absence, im very happy to say that i am constantly home in this district. Throughout this campaign, ms. Caruso cabrera has been fixated on six days in which i wasnt feeling well and still showed up and spoke at town halls and still did virtual fundraisers for the community. I cant really speak much to why she is so fixated on this but i in tell you in my first term, have personally hosted and attended over 200 events in the district, 17 counts halls which puts me at one of the most active members in new yorks delegation. I have organized 235,000 constituent checking crawls for overitizens, delivered 3000 bags, a weeks worth of meals to peoples homes so they dont have to go to cant trace in addition food pantries in addition to tens of thousands of masks to local hospitals, Colby Medical Center and working with the Many American Merchants Association so workers are safe from coronavirus, as well. Ms. Caruso cabrera the least you could do after driving away 20 billion in taxes moderator we will get to those other issues. You been doing since the advent of the pandemic and what we you would you do if elected . , we have a law in the state the Police Secrecy act carried that needs to be repealed. Get information about misconduct. The other thing i have noticed is when police get out of the academy, they have six months of training. They dont have the ability to understand how to cope with or copeViolent Crimes mentally with people. That needs to be addressed and if i am in congress, i also want the georget we call floyd act, showing people the justice we need to make sure anyone who commits a crime should be punished for the crimes they committed. You can understand how people have racism toward us, i can understand that and being your the community, what i have done in the community, i have given masksfood, out, contacted my Community Leaders, the masks, the churches. Im doing the community leading ive been doing for a long time, but i want to ask something to ms. Caruso cabrera. She believes in health care but according to your book, you want to eliminate medicare. Ms. Caruso cabrera not true. Thats not true. Ms. Khan according to your book, and i also wanted to say that the book he wrote, larry kudlow is actually comes Economic Advisor, so i want to get that issue out there because i know in your book you said i am right. What is the Health Care Issue . Moderator let me do this. I will hold that. I know ms. Caruso cabrera will want to respond to that, i imagine larry kudlow is quoted in the book or something. Ms. Khan he wrote the forward to the book. Moderator let me ask all of you a question because it has come up in other debates. I want to ask about specific legislation and get everyone on the record about it. Hr 4408 is called the eric garner use of force prevention act, which would put a national ban on chokeholds and create a National Standard on the use of force. Would you support that . I also want to hear more from each of you about the 1033 gram under which the Defense Department makes military equivalent available to local police departments, in any order. I can say im proud to be supportive of both of these bills. S, need to banned chokehold level of government, city council to government. We need to ban the transfer of military equipment to police departments. It is patently unacceptable for made, andction to be it further reinforces the frame and division and the idea that the public is the general enemy of the state, and when you use weapons that are designed for enemies and bring them here back home, we also import those paradigms and those frameworks and it is incredibly dangerous so we have to make sure that practice ends. Moderator ms. Caruso cabrera, the antichoque bill antichokehold bill and the pentagon . Ms. Caruso cabrera i would support the choque van choke ban. Military equipment should not be andvered to Police Officers departments. I would say that is not enough. George floyd wasnt murdered by military equipment. He was murdered by a Police Officer holding his knee to his neck. We need much more. We need much better training. We need to take a hard look at what happens in police departments, that Something Like that could happen. That he could hold his knee there for another two minutes and 43 seconds after george floyd laid still. Thats what we have to get to the root of. Mr. Rator let me give casiano cortez a chance to respond. Rep. Ocasiocortez what she said was a passive also patent falsehood. Moderator ok. Ms. Khan i agree with both because i think the chokehold should be eliminated because that is something that should not be used, excess force. I agree with mr. Cassio cortez and for military, they should not be coming into the police stations. Oureed more training with police. What is happening now is not just about george floyd. Look at how many people are affected by this. We need enough training for these people to come up and see what they they are there to protect us. How are they protecting us is the question . And need to be more trained instead of sending more military equipment, which i do not agree with, that is for something else. Not for our police departments. Moderator thank you, candidates. We will be right back with more from our debate for new yorks 14th congressional district. Back to our democratic primary debate for the 14th district which covers parts of queens and the bronx. We will talk more about the global covid19 pandemic now and candidates, as was mentioned by ms. Khan, the 14th district is the center of the epicenter of recentid19 crisis in weeks among zip codes with the highest number of positive cases. Any of the top 10 fall within new york 14, especially jackson heights, corona, elmhurst, at east elmhurst. I wanted to hear more about what you think Going Forward should be done to make the district more resilient and more resistant to the problems of covid19. Lets start with you, ms. Ocasiocortez. Ms. Ocasiocortez one of the things covid19 has done is exposed the holes in our overall system, not just our Health Care System where far too many people cannot afford to see a doctor, but also people who are afraid to see a doctor. In new york 14, about half of our district that we know of is immigrants. We need to make sure we get that of that,because because of the targeting of undocumented people in our community, we need to take strong measures to repeal the public charge, that people are not afraid to go to the doctor and feel they will be put on the line for deportation for doing so. Additionally, one of the things i have been championing working with senator schumer and with the support of nancy pelosi has been trying to severe secure funds for our community. Covid19 is not affecting all communities differently. The mortality rate among africanamericans during covid19 is astronomically high. With that means in our community and communities like east elmhurst, corona, even the ,ronx, communities workingclass families that our tragically losing a mother and a son, multiple people in their families have to deal with tens of thousands of dollars in burial expenses, and when you concentrate that, when you concentrate that cost among black americans, latino americans, what that means is it will exacerbate the racial wealth gap in this country because all of our communities are not buried easily. We need to guarantee health care as a human right, repeal the public charge, so we allow all people to get tested and covered, not just for covid19 but also diseases like pneumonia. I dont believe health care isnt a human right, i dont believe anyone should not go to the doctor because they cant afford it. Ms. Khan i think elmhurst was housingest hit because is also an issue. When people left the hospital, in one apartment, they had five People Living there, kids living there. They couldnt be isolated. Did i hospital was overflowing with people so they had to come home. That is a big issue in corona, amherst. We need to fix that issue. So when people leave the hospital they have a space to stay. The death rate was so high in my community, we did a lot of aerial service. We send people to new jersey. We it hit the south asian, black, latino, people of color. Everyone got hit hard and the reason he didnt have enough income level and what we needed to do was get more jobs, build the community, Work Together and see how can we protect the community. Smalld part is, the businesses had to shut down because nobody knew who had the disease because we dont have enough testing. In the future, we need more tests and we need more hospitals in our district. Moderator ms. Caruso cabrera . Ms. Caruso cabrera i saw with my own eyes the long line outside of elmhurst hospital at the height of the crisis. People from all of the world who have come to queens to try to make it and they were desperate to get in, so i find it quite sayshat my opponent aoc she cares so much about them when she voted against 75 billion for hospitals like elmhurst that were helping immigrants. She voted against 25 billion for coronavirus testing. When i am delivering masks, delivering food and hand sanitizer, when i talk to people who are desperate in line, my neighbors who are desperate to go back to work, they are very much concerned about how they are going to get testing. When are they going to get back to work, and she voted against all of their interests. I would have voted for that bill, and i would be working with nancy pelosi right now for another stimulus bill. By the way, she voted for the last one and didnt even want it to come to the floor, aoc, because shes always mia. Working with nancy pelosi on the stimulus bill that addresses the longterm inequities that have happened in health care spending. We need more spending on Public Health. We also need i like your suggestion you wrote about. Programe education sponsored by local hospitals to make sure our communities live healthy lives so they dont have the underlying issues that made them more susceptible to dying. It was horrific to watch. Moderator that was a brilliant segue. Ms. Caruso cabrera we need unity, we got to work with people. We cant have divisiveness. Moderator i want to give ms. Ocasiocortez a chance to respond. Ms. Ocasiocortez i do think it is important. Lets talk about that because there are multiple Coronavirus Relief packages. I voted for the heroes act and against the cares act. What ms. Caruso cabreras declining to tell the public is the cares act included half 1 trillion in wall street , 4 trillionverage for donald trump and his friends. It is unsurprising that Donald Trumps Economic Advisor larry kudlow wrote the forward to her book and she is advancing wall street agenda to make sure that working families get a smaller portion of federal aid instead of a larger portion. Us is completely unacceptable. Additionally, that bill carved out every single mixed status family and undocumented person in america. Not havenity would benefited and has largely struggled to benefit from the cares package. The third thing was i read the damn bill which had a broken ppp system that was in it and anyone who read the bill saw the flaws. I did not think that bill was ready. Small Business Owners have told me it was not ready for prime time and we are struggling to fix this thing that we all recognize is a problem ahead of time but that being said, im proud to have sponsored the heroes act. Youve tried at every single point to get more and more assistance ive tried to get more assistance for working families, which means when corporate democrats try to sneak in lobbyist greed, im going to stand up and say no. Moderator im going to ask you a hypothetical, ms. Ocasiocortez, and i want to get back to you, as well, ms. Caruso cabrera. , years was theez sole vote in the democratic conference against the bill. If it was the deciding vote, would it have been the same . Ms. Ocasiocortez one of the interesting dynamics about is ones is we know there person that is the deciding vote before it gets to the floor. What i would have done in that situation is if i was a deciding vote, i have done previously, i would have negotiated for improvements to the bill and get those improvements and supported it. , ierator ms. Caruso cabrera have a different hypothetical for you, which is if you were convinced the bill had nothing in it that was going to help the constituents or a very large swath of the constituents of new york 14 would be excluded, would you have voted for the bill . Ms. Caruso cabrera no, but thats not what was at stake. 75 billion for hospitals. Elmhurst did need that money. When you listen to her explanation about why she was the only democrat, she makes it sound like she was the only democrat who cares. It is an insult to every other member of the Democratic Party. Democraticsocialist, and shes a polarizing, divisive force. He is wrong for the times she is wrong for new york, and she is wrong for our neighborhoods. Moderator let me bring ms. Khan into this conversation. Same hypothetical. The bill comes up, you are aware it will leave out Small Businesses, it will leave out mixed status and undocumented families in your district. What would you . I would not vote for it because my district is small business, immigrants with low incomes any fund, but i would bailout the people. We need something to bailout the people. The 1200 has not reached the people as of yet. There are so many people still suffering and we are putting another bill out, but i would not support that bill but i do want to Say Something to ms. C ortez. Iere is an ad out there that take money from wall street and special lobbyists. I do not. Mine is a grassroots campaign. I take funds from people in the an rict and someone who is uber driver. Me fiveill give dollars, 10, i dont support any interest in wall street or special lobbyist groups. Im independent. Im here to work for my community and i stand up for people who need right and need to come out of the Poverty Level we have right now. Just want to clear that up. Ms. Ocasiocortez if i may. Thank you very much. I wanted to let you know it did not name your name specifically. It said opponents. Ms. Caruso cabrera you were talking about me, you. Ms. Ocasiocortez because you have taken money from wall street but ms. Khan, i want to apologize to you for being included and associated with ms. Caruso cabreras reprehensible forort, so thank you leading a grassroots campaign. Ms. Caruso cabrera reprehensible support. She just supported thousands and thousands of people. Moderator it is time for crossexamination, when each candidate gets to ask one question of one rival and we start with you, ms. Caruso cabrera. Ms. Caruso cabrera representative ocasiocortez, why were you the only democrat to vote against coronavirus testing, hundreds of billions for paychecks which many small Business Owners tell me was incredibly helpful . Why did you throw away 25,000 jobs and 27 billion in tax revenue in a deal that Governor Cuomo worked very hard to bring . Can you admit that it would be so great to have those jobs right now . Imagine if we had those jobs right now helping us get past this pandemic. People here want to get back to work. Moderator that sounds like a question. I think we answered the first one you asked. If you want to take the second one, a reference to the amazon deal. Ms. Ocasiocortez first and foremost, there were strong issues with this and first and foremost, among them was the fact that we have a natural experiment with amazon hq. Did notthe one they happen in queens and the one that happened in virginia and what happened in virginia was almost immediately, rent went up anywhere between 15 and 20 before even the campus was finished. Secondly, Economic Experts have studied these huge subsidy boondoggle beals over and over. Ms. Caruso cabrera they were not huge subsidies. Ms. Ocasiocortez whether it andfoxconn, in virginia, they determined they do not provide the return on investment these corporations like to say and we talk about those jobs. Think about where those numbers are coming from. These were not independent assessments. These numbers and reports were coming from people who were vested in making sure this deal got hammered out and we already saw the initial announcement of it that people started coming in, swooping in, buying property and already raising property prices in the middle of one of the greatest housing crises we have in new york city. I believe in making sure we are creating jobs. I think if you want to give 3 billion away in subsidies, why arent those going to Small Businesses . Why do they have to go to jeff bezos, who is already one of the richest men in the world . Ms. Caruso cabrera theres no money for schools. You are you are moderator you dont get to consult the answer. Ms. Khan, you can ask the question of one ear rivals. Of your rivals. Ms. Khan few supported to close rikers, which i agree, but you did not support opening any more jails in the community, which is a concern for me. Where are we going to put the Violent Crime . Where are we going to locate them . If we put them in existing jails, which is already overcrowded, that is a big issue. Is, as i said, where do you want to put the people who committed these crimes if you do not believe in opening jails . I agree in closing rikers. Ms. Ocasiocortez it is an important question and profound forces in the city. The city delineate council proposal, not a congressional one. I did support the closure of rikers and had concerns about opening five new jails, each and every borough of new york city, especially with the Language Council proposal allowed loopholes for that rikers could not close and you could still construct those five new jails. I believe firmly i am somewhat of a radical in this sense. I do not believe that a Healthy Society has a mass incarceration complex and i do not believe the legislation that was before the city council was Strong Enough to secure policy. I had concerns this was an expansion despite a lot of folks saying this was going to nearly keep the population reduced. Im not sure the legislative language allows for that. ,oderator ms. Ocasiocortez you get to ask a question. Ms. Caruso cabrera id like to a question of ms. Khan i was interested in your stance on standardized testing. Youve mentioned you are supportive of standardized testing and i was interested in how you would respond to one of the educators in our community saying the over roaming pressure overwhelming pressure of notdardized testing is making sure we have comprehensive, actual education, in terms of curriculum and content. Ms. Khan the reason i did support the standardized testing , communities who have been their children in these, their parents strive for them to get into these schools but the issue has become, dotain parts of areas, they not have enough funding to get these students to that portion. That is where we have the issues. If we could get more funding for our schools, all of the students can get what they are looking for. I have people in the bronx who go to these schools. Moreed more, but we need based education for that. We dont have enough funding for education. Some schools have 40 students in the class. I support the high school, but not the grade level one. I supported standardized high school when people have funding, they want to go to these press courses, they should do that but my idea is all the schools should have enough funding so they could get ready to take these exams. We need to see it from the ground level. Dont have enough funding. We dont have enough prep working. Thats what im looking for and i support it, but we need more levels so people can get to those classes. Especially the people who do not much ofwho dont have an income level, they cant fight with certain people. I dont have enough money to pay for this prep course. You need to offer that in our school for free. It goes for my Afterschool Program too. Moderator thank you candidates, we will be back with more of this debate in just a minute. Stay with us. The democratic primary debate for 14th congressional district. It is time for the lightning round were each candidate answers my questions with a brief response. Usually yes or no. We will start with this candidate. , with berniebrera sanders endorsing joe biden, should there still be a New York Primary . Ms. Caruso cabrera i dont think thats necessary but we are going to do it and im glad of it. I have supported joe biden from day one, unlike my opponent moderator lightning round. Lightning. Ms. Khan, should we have a primary . Ms. Khan yes, definitely. Moderator ms. Ocasiocortez . Ms. Ocasiocortez yes, everyone in this country should vote. , ifrator ms. Ocasiocortez reelected, would you vote to have nancy pelosi continue as speaker to the house . Ms. Ocasiocortez thats always subject to continuing dynamics, but i support her. Yes, maybe, yes. If she wants it. Shes indicated she me or not run again. Moderator ms. Khan, if elected, would you vote to have miss pelosi continue as speaker of the house . Ms. Khan yes i would. Ms. Caruso cabrera enthusiastically, yes. The nypd should continue to provide security in the cities tour look schools . Ms. Caruso cabrera when it is necessary. Yes, we want children to be safe. Ms. Khan yes, definitely. Ms. Ocasiocortez right now, the new York City Police force in new york city Public Schools i dont think we should. Thank you. Moderator ms. Ocasiocortez, should taxes be raised on households that make more than 500,000 a year . Ms. Ocasiocortez yes. Ms. Khan definitely. Dontruso cabrera i advocate raising taxes on new yorkers at all right now. We face and existential threat. Ms. Ocasiocortez, did vote to raise taxes on homeowners against Governor Cuomos wishes. The tax is killing us. I would work to get rid of it. Moderator should social Media Companies be allowed to censor content on their platforms . Ms. Caruso cabrera yes, they should. Ms. Khan yes. Ms. Ocasiocortez carefully, yes. ,oderator ms. Ocasiocortez should a conviction on a charge of losing be punishable by time g beail lootin punishable by time in jail . Ms. Ocasiocortez i am an evolutionist abolitionist so i try to avoid jail time but it is a casebycase basis. Ms. Khan probation and depending on the crime they committed. Ms. Caruso cabrera casebycase. What the attorney generals report brings back about what we saw about Police Activities during the protests and i would think she would have good analysis about what should be done, and that police should be using their best judgment when it comes to the most severe cases. Moderator ms. Caruso cabrera, at this time, would you feel safe riding or have family members ride the city subways . Ms. Caruso cabrera if you are wearing a mask and social distancing, yes. Ms. Khan yes, i have no issues. I understandrtez that people feel u nsafe, but we should be allowed to ride subways. Moderator what is the last social thing you did before social distancing became a thing . Ms. Ocasiocortez i havent had a social life in two years. I cook myself dinner. Before covid, walking to the train station and knocking on every door. Ms. Caruso cabrera same here. My last activity was meeting with voters until we couldnt anymore. Moderator finally, ms. Caruso , should the Democratic Party holding in person National Convention this summer . Only ifso cabrera social distancing can be maintained. You will have to keep people apart. It would be difficult at this point, but only if we can be safe. Ms. Khan if we can hold them virtually, that would be great. Right now, notez i dont think we have the Contact Tracing and Testing Capacity for in person. If Public Health experts say it is ok, then yes. Moderator thank you, candidates. To close out today, i wanted to have a discussion about from a federal level, the Health Care Question and the question of medicare for all. There are those who say it is a great idea but not attainable. Thee are those who say existing system obamacare should be strengthened. There are those who favor entirely different solutions. I wanted to hear from each of you about what is the correct path forward. Lets start with you, ms. Caruso cabrera. Ms. Caruso cabrera let me be clear. I support medicare and social security. I wanted to address that and didnt get a chance earlier on. That is extremely important. It is important for the most vulnerable to make sure we have that. Medicare for all is about taking Health Insurance away from people who have Health Insurance they already like. Union members have negotiated very good Health Insurance and they give up salary for that Health Insurance. Now we are going to take it away . President obama had a much better idea. We need to focus on people who dont get insurance through their work and make sure that there are affordable options for them to buy. There are ways to do that through strengthening obamacare and improving it. Moderator as a member of congress, what would you do to advance the scenario you just described . Ms. Caruso cabrera i would work very closely with the democratic leadership, unlike my opponent, who works against them, to bring forth ideas that would make much more choice available for people. When you go to the marketplaces, because ive been on them, thats how i get Health Insurance, there arent that many choices. Youeed to expand choices so can have different price levels, levels of services depending on what you need at what stage you are in life. Moderator there is an argument out there that in the past, possibly in your book, i cant claim ive read it, that you have advocated cutting entitlements. Is that true . Ms. Caruso cabrera i support medicare and social security. A lot of what you are hearing are things from more than 10 years ago which are taken wildly out of context, whereas my opponent in the last two years has voted against money for hospitals, against money for coronavirus testing, and against billions of dollars to keep people employed. Her record she wants to criticize my deep past, her record is what shes afraid of running on. Moderator let me move on to miss khan. What is your sense of where we should go at the federal level . What would you do as a freshman member of congress . Support joe bidens public action right now and people who could keep their private options for the time being, we will need to get that done quickly. Dont haveeople who Health Insurance. I understand miss cortez about medicare for all, but we need a solution now. Bill of mr. Sanders didnt go through the committee so what can we do now to get People Health care . So family, friends, anyone you know, can i go for testing . That would be my solution. Obamacare worked, but we need to make it stronger. The other thing is, we need to discuss prescription costs, which are drastically insane and if you have private Health Insurance, we need to work about deductions, copays so it is not just you move from one path camp. We need to discuss both camps, how can you have public and private but make sure private is affordable for people. If you are laid off from any company, they should be required by law to give six months to a year of Health Insurance with the current situation. Moderator ms. Ocasiocortez . Carecasiocortez health is a human right, which means i do not believe we should be passing policies that allow millions of americans to continue uninsured, which frankly has been some of my concern with a lot of Different Health care plans and legislations weve seen put out. I think we should have a Health Care Plan and i believe in medicare for all as a system to make sure we guarantee every person in the United States gets health care. In terms of how we get there, i do believe we should expand person allery the 40 million plus people who have become unemployed due to coronavirus. If there is anything coronavirus has taught us, it is the fallacy of employer dependent Health Insurance. It is much more stable than people think it is and it really just takes the snap of a finger for people to go from insured to uninsured in their greatest moment of vulnerability. I would be very cautious to spread the mythology that unions are against medicare for all. They are champions of medicare for all because they have had to cut their salaries in negotiations for health care. It doesnt mean every union is in support, but the National Nurses union is supportive of medicare for all, the Flight Attendants Union is supportive of medicare for all because sony workers so many workers. Ms. Caruso cabrera you didnt have enough support from unions. Ms. Ocasiocortez excuse me, im talking about health care. Ms. Caruso cabrera you are talking about unions and you are saying things that are not true. Ms. Ocasiocortez by the way we talk about delving into your deep past, you were a registered republican your entire life and just registered as a democrat. Ms. Caruso cabrera i changed my registration in 2015 and you didnt become a registered democrat until 2016. Im a democrat. I am prochoice, i am samesex marriage, i have always been in support thats why ms. Ocasiocortez were you not a registered republican . Ms. Caruso cabrera i changed my registration ms. Ocasiocortez but you were ms. Caruso cabrera in 2015. Ms. Khan you did not like ms. Ocasiocortez. That was the aim of it. Ms. Caruso cabrera you should be worried because she is attacking me which means she thinks i have a chance. [crosstalk] ms. Khan i was going to ask miss cortez this question. How about the unions who want to keep their Health Insurance . I work with a lot of unions who pay into their Health Insurance for years and negotiated a lot of these. Ms. Caruso cabrera exactly. Moderator lets get a Quick Response from ms. Ocasiocortez and ill have time to speak on another important subject of housing. Ms. Ocasiocortez first and foremost, we work with those unions. Weve had unions endorse legislation of mine. We had disagreements on this issues these issues. This is a path, but we have to get there together and it is one that we build coalitions and lets talk about being divisive. Im quite a skilled coalition builder. Congress100 members of cosponsor my first piece of legislation. Ms. Caruso cabrera youve now changed the topic. I am a democrat. You are a democraticsocialist. You are the one who hasnt supported joe biden. I have supported joe biden from day one. You want to talk about divisiveness. Ms. Khan i am not she. Pleaseu refer to me, refer to me by my name. You got under five minutes but i want a response from everybody on Public Housing. For as long as i have covered this issue, which is decades, the standard response to the crumbling conditions is we are going to get more money from the federal government and the number just goes up. One year, it is 29 billion and then we are talking 32 billion and then 38 billion and 40 billion. Lets put that aside. If it hasnt worked for 30 years, perhaps there is a plan b that we get us there. What would be the plan be . Ms. Ocasiocortez . Ms. Ocasiocortez i think it is important to know that the reason we have not been able to securities Capital Funds is we lack both house and Senate Majority for a long period of time, so when we have such a narrow window, we are not able to do that. I am very hopeful and working my being on mr. Uding bidens unity tax force to make sure we get a democratic majority in the house and senate and have a democratic president. If that is the window, i believe we have a shot at getting the Capital Funds necessary to get these problems. If that isnt the case, we need to make sure that we start to look at some other provisions to make sure we get our issues fully funded and that kids arent drinking led in their water. Just think about my district. No heat. Apartments are falling apart. I spoke to a woman about week ago who said they put in a stove, but there is no in the stove. We need more funding right away, but what happens the funding . Why dont we have an investigation to see where are these funds going to . When we get the funding, if we have funding, we need funding and a task force making sure we see how and where the funding is going. We are in crisis right now and with affordable housing, which is not affordable, we need to build more a formal housing. Affordable housing. Ms. Caruso cabrera the federal governments a bandmate abandonment is inexcusable. Uses thent, aoc, excuse there hasnt been a majority in congress. Well, she is working having the majority because she is so divisive and polarizing. She hasnt been supportive of joe biden. She has been tepid. I have been supportive of him from day one. She has worked against nancy pelosi. With thent work Democratic Party, how are we going to get anything done . We need unity. We need to come together and on all of these issues, she is mia. I have been to all of the projects within the district and the you know what they tell me . Aoc is mia. Moderator ok, we got it. A Quick Response, ms. Ocasiocortez. Ms. Ocasiocortez im here all the time. I do political education training, i drafted the deal for Public Housing with my residence and experts in addition to the had broad support to rs build Public Housing. Its restored it to a existing standards. Worldclass air and Energy Efficient facilities within it. Moderator thank you for the time you gave us. Cspans washington journal, every day, we are taking your calls live on the air on the news of the day and discussing policy issues that impact you. This morning, former homeland onurity secretary tom ridge voting Security Issues in the upcoming november elections and we will talk about the Current Supreme Court term with the constitutional at county accountability center. Watch cspans washington journal live at 7 00 eastern this morning and be sure to join the discussion with your phone calls, facebook comments, text messages, and tweets. 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