Transcripts For CSPAN Washington Journal 04222020 20240713

A text with send us your first name, city and state at 202 7488003. Facebook twitter and to post your comments. We will get to your thoughts in a minute. How was your governor doing . According to a New Washington post poll, governors are getting high marks for their responses to the coronavirus outbreak. With 72 saying their governor is doing an excellent or good job. 26 saying the governor is doing a not so good or poor job. Compare that to the federal government, 49 say is doing excellent or good, while 51 give the federal government low marks. President trump gets 44 of excellent and good marks. 54 say the president is not doing a good job in responding. How do you rate your governor . Lets begin with alabama ivey. Nor kay [video] they are all eager to open up. The comment is we are alabama. A challe testing is a challenge for them as well. We cant fully reopen the economy but we are working together and sharing ideas. Some states are opening sooner than others but every governor is responsible for reading the numbers and doing what they think is best for their state. Reporter [indiscernible] i beg your pardon. Enough. Re not testing we are testing a little less than 1 of the population. We need to do a lot more testing to get up to speed. Yes sir . Reporter [indiscernible] 1 even fewer tests have taken place at this point. [indiscernible] sure. I dont think there is a set number we would use to automatically answer that question. We want to feel comfortable we can test people when they need to be tested. Right now in some parts of the state that means we take a consultation from a doctor one at a time and wait for the individual patient to get tested. No state has really solved this problem, but we want this testing to be available like any other testing is available. If you need to get a glucose test, you can go to any clinic or urgent care or Doctors Office and have that done. No one is near that yet and we certainly dont have to wait to reach a position like that. What we do need to be able to do is respond when we see outbreaks occurring. We need to be able to get to an area where we have multiple cases reported and get those people tested as quickly as possible and do Contact Tracing as quickly as possible. Reporter if we were to reopen the economy today, are you comfortable the state has resources to respond to an outbreak . I think we are still trying to make decisions about that. We have improved our testing tremendously. Again, the ultimate goal is not going to be realistic for any state to see anytime soon. We are increasing our capacity. The guidance we have received repeatedly from hhs is they say we understand Public Health labs are not doing most testing in any state. Continue to work with academic, medical, and providers for capacity. Most tests are being done by those other entities. We continue to try to get them to amplify their capacity as much as possible. Host the alabama governor and the top dr. Theyre talking about what it will take to reopen that state top doctor talking about what will take to reopen their state. Larry hogan. How was that governor doing . Caller when he first started he did pretty well. He was out in front of it pretty quickly. As it goes on here he is losing touch with the people a little bit. There was a riot by the Governors Mansion on saturday. Totead of allowing people come where he could waive and he could show it was ok, the rerouted traffic. People are ready to get back to work and get this thing going again. Host do you want him to open up the economy . Caller to be honest, i think it is time. I think it is time here in maryland. I dont know anybody who knows anybody. A lot of people are saying the same thing. I think it will be a good idea this point. Host the governor tweeting out saturday, the first lady and i welcomed the first korean passenger plane carrying test kits that will give maryland the capability of performing half a million coronavirus tests. Korean. Is fluent in many hours onng the phone trying to negotiate this deal on behalf of maryland. The governor tweeting out yesterday, i just sent President Trump a letter to formally accept his generous offer to allow maryland to utilize federal labs for covid19 testing. We are ready to move forward with this important federalstate collaboration. Dean, how do you think roy cooper is doing . Caller hes doing a great job. Downay he has closed everything to keep the virus we need some leaders in washington. He shouldve closed the borders down on day one, the president. We would have gotten along a lot better and everything would not have been shut down enclosed. We could have got it stopped before he got such a hold on the United States. You know it and the people of the country knows. Host what do you like about your governor . Either the actions he has taken or the words he is using . What do you like about how he has responded . He tries like the way to help the people of the state. He tries to help the people but going ahead and not letting them in washington tell him what to do. No, imke trump saying president. You will do as i say. Our states showed him. The states control the state the governor controls the states. Governors should stand up for our country. The state. Viewers royshow our cooper, the North Carolina governor, a democrat. Hes talking about the unappointed situation and ongoing help for Small Businesses as he debates whether or not to reopen the economy there. [video] our state has sent almost 580 million to over 257,000 people who have filed for unemployment claims since the start of this pandemic. The on Employment Security commission continues to make improvements in the filing process and call center, but more work must be done and it is being done. We know this virus is taking a toll on our economy. And on our workforce. We cant lose sight of how this virus is impacting our families in North Carolina. I signed a new executive order today to help furloughed workers whose employers paid them as severance or furloughed payment. Before this order, these employees were ineligible for an appointment consultation compensation. They now qualify. We are working with legislators to try to codify and allow this order, and my other orders on unemployment benefits. Week when the journalist emily returns, General Assembly returns, we hope to get more consensus on helfer North Carolina. Help for North Carolina. The economy, working people and Small Businesses, and state and local governments need financial help. Our team is compiling recommendations for how we can allocate first share of federal money that has come down to our state from washington. We will have more of that plan to share later this week, but today i want to outline some of the significant items in that budget proposal. General Assembly Leaders and i agree we need to make more funding available to help support our Small Business owners. Providing that by funding to the Rapid Recovery Program through the golden leaf foundation, which is already up and running and connect quickly to get funding to people. Is the lifeblood of our economy, and many of the men and women who built these businesses are struggling right now. We owe it to them to help keep them afloat until it is safe to begin easing the restrictions. This money now is particularly important in that federal Small Business money has been depleted. Host that was North Carolina governor roy cooper. He sent out this tweet. Force my Coronavirus Task are getting input from around the state as we prepare to ease restrictions, protect Public Health and get the economy moving forward. Right now staying home is saving lives. Liz North Carolina from North Carolina says she believes the governor has done a great job. Danny and rando, South Carolina. You are one of the 37 states where your governor three Southern States where your governor was to reopen the economy. What do you think . Caller he dont care about the people. Cares about President Trump and trump does not care about the people. A lot of people will die because of him. Host you disagree with his decision . Caller right. He does things on his own. Tot what do you say governors who say we have to balance this . The unappointed rate as to the roof and people need jobs and they are trying to do the best they can to balance the health needs with the economy. Well, they are always looking out for the rich. Why cant they look out for the families and how about the people more . Host ok. Danny from South Carolina. Governor mcmaster of South Carolina tweeted out yesterday, locals can use their discretion. I will also reach to open but they must follow strict social distancing measures. Please stay safe and follow all recommendations from Public Health experts. Deidre in washington. Governor inslee is your governor. How do you think he is doing . Caller i think he is doing an excellent job. Host why . Caller he was the very first governor to be contacted because the coronavirus started here in kirkland, washington. Been very science and factbased and all of his responses to the coronavirus. He has been held back from doing things because the federal government is not cooperating, but he is doing everything he can do. Host so, do you think it is time since your state was one of the first states to experience this is it time to start moving toward reopening . Caller absolutely not. Host what are you concerned about . Caller getting everybody well. I think that is the priority, not jobs. But if important too, people are sick, people will not be working anyway. Host heres the latest tweet from your governor. Coronavirus will remain a threat until we have a vaccine. Workplaces will continue to look and operate differently until one is available. We will provide guidelines for businesses so they can begin to reopen safely. He says that will happen in phases with rigorous cleaning, protective equipment, screening, and teleworking. Nick in illinois, good morning to you. Howdy think governor pretzer is doing . Caller thank you for taking my call. Think hey, i already is not doing a very good job with the response but. With the response. For covid response, i would put him at a 10. Haley does what california and new york does. Hes a joke. If i may, if the governors think they dont have control over the u. S. Dollars and our economy, they are crazy. The president has control over the dollar. The president has control over the economy. They dont. If they think they do, they need to do us a favor and leave the union and take the debt with them. The caller from South Carolina just said this president does not care about the people. Stimulushave a 300 one time from president obama we had to pay back. Millennialearold got hit with a 1500 penalty from obama from not having health insurance, but the 1200 we got from this president has done nothing . People cant keep saying this. Im sorry. The fact we have people out there who think our government dont care, how government just wasted how much money for a virus that hasnt even gotten 1 10 of 1 of the global population . Continue to get your thoughts on your governors but if you mentioned the federal part of this as well, yesterday in the senate, they took action on providing more funding for the Small Business loan program and funding for hospitals and more testing. Joining us is eric watson, congressional reporter from bloomberg. What theoverall aide was for. Dig a little deeper for us. What are the numbers and where will this money go . Package isoverall 484 billion. Thebillion of that goes to paycheck protection program. That basically allows Small Businesses with up to 500 employees to apply for forgivable loans. If these on payroll and rent and utilities, those will not need to be paid back. It ran out of money last thursday. Republicans tried to renew this about two weeks ago but democrats said they needed to be changes to the program and more funding for hospitals and testing. Some demands were met in the final bill. 25 billion testing regime set up here that requires the administration to come up with a plan. As contention about money going to the states. Hospitals are suffering because of the lack of like the surgeries and procedures. This is another 75 billion for them. The democrats were looking for a bailout of state and local governments, 150 billion. That is not in the package. The treasury secretary and the president talked about that built. N the phase 4 bill. Host is the president effected design it . Caller he is inspected to sign it. Democratic leaders decided to give house members notice to travel. It will likely be a recorded vote, the first and quite a long time in the house, since a for the pandemic got going. Since before the pandemic got going. Republicans are demanding it. We are expecting at least 215 members for a quorum necessary to do business to show up in for there to be a recorded vote. We are expecting defection by some liberal members. They are very upset this bill does not contain more of their priorities. Shes looking for eight 2000 per individual cash payment. That cash payment issue definitely come up again in the next phase. The president is talking about a payroll tax reduction. Most economists say that does not really benefit the lower and middle income people is much as a cash payment. That could be in the next round, and possibly extending on the planet insurance. A boost of 600 per month. Host how much would that cash payment be . Guest theyre talking about 2000 per person. I dont know if you will go that high. It may be a replication of the 1200 per person amount. Capped atmped at individuals making 75,000 a year and then it phases out to 100,000. Per child, youre getting 500 per child. That may be replicated. Someat point this can be better forecasting of how the economy is doing. Eric, democrats are talking about remote voting. Will that happen this thursday . Guest on thursday, they will vote to set up the possibility of proxy voting. This is not electronic voting numbers have been talking about. It would allow a member to designate a number mother another member to vote for them. This is putting the responsibility on another lawmaker. With a public vote there is little chance the vote would be stolen. Steny hoyer came up in favor of actually remote voting, using videoconferencing to conference with the house clerk. Leaders have been reluctant to do this. They dont want to diminish the ability of congress to meet with each other. That is their main way of living members, armtwisting whipping members, armtwisting. They know how to vote remotely but they dont how to arm twist remotely. That might be hurdle for them. , all of hisasson reporting at bloomberg. Com. Thank you very much. Guest thank you. Host over on cspan2 this morning, remote debate happening in the house of commons and the british house of commons. Our live coverage of that parliament happening over on cspan2. Right now you can see the British Foreign minister filling in for the Prime Minister boris johnson, who is still ill from the coronavirus. As you watch, if you watch over on cspan2, you will see some members using zoom to participate in the debate as they practice social distancing in that chamber of government. Our live coverage over on cspan2 this morning. Here we are talking to all of you about that job your governors are doing. Allen in brooklyn, new york, what do you think of the job democrat andrew cuomo is doing . Caller i think is doing a very fine job because hes focusing on the facts and trying to educate the public about the a involving the likelihood likely passing of the virus, the resources, and hes been staying away from selfpromotion and rampant opinion nation and trying to make sure opinionation and try to make sure the public understands. He often quotes from lines about the family of america, the family of new york. Government not as something that is the enemy but that is an expression of our caring for each other. Thats a great contrast to the president who said he is not responsible for the problem. This is something the state should handle. We are just a backup. It reflects an attitude about sexuality because. Because whether we are talking about this virus or climate change, if you dont respect facts, you cant address the future. Thats the greatest threat to the president the president poses to us. He is not tying himself to the facts. Hes trying to do more about making sure he is reelected than solving this problem. Host how do you think the state of new york and new york city will be changed by this pandemic . Caller i think it is going to be far more profound than most people realize. Copinge we find ways of with the inability to go physically out, the less premium is placed on the physical proximity of people within new york. That will affect his longterm property values, both in rental and commercial and residential. Think there needs to be a very careful focus on longterm future. Populationsense still serve the function of maximizing pot activity of people, allowing them to interact. We were talking about the whipping process in congress. The same thing happens among ordinary people. They need to be near each other to be creative and for Energy Efficiency. If are going to deal with the climate problem, we have to tackle this disease so the Energy Efficiency benefits are being of being a densities are not overcome by the fear that drives us into the countryside to another wave of suburbanization that could result in the fear of being near others. Host inside the wall street journal this morning is the story with the headline that new yorkers are leaving the city. Some of them permanently, to find residences in the suburbs around the city. Let me show you andrew cuomo yesterday talking about a regional approach to reopening the economy. [video] we have been working on the economy in general across the state where we recognized there is one state, yes, but there are regional economies within the state. We have been working with each individual regional economy. We will do the same thing on this phase. Lets talk about reopening economies in that regional context. And coordinated regionally. That is what we are going to be doing. Again, i have said this statewide but i went regional partners to hear us. Lets not talk about just reopening. Alber going to do was go back to everywhere. How do you back to where we were. How do you use this to learn lessons and build back better . That is what we have to do. For western new york, my partner, Lieutenant Governor hockul, it was from buffalo, we will ask her to take charge of the western new york Public Health issues. Make sure if there is a problem in terms of Public Health we are marshaling all the resources from across the state to help western new york and also to start to work on the reimagining and the reopening plan for western new york. Duffy, going to ask bob who worked with me in the state, to volunteer to be a special advisor to coordinate Public Health and reopening in the finger lakes, the rochester area. Have gone through difficult situations before. Western new york, we went through seven feet of snow a couple of years ago. That was fun. We learned from that. The state went through 9 11, which was a crushing experience but we learned from that. We are different and better. We went through Superstorm Sandy and we are the better for that. We are going to be the better for this. Governor cuomo talking about a regional approach to opening up the government. How do you think your governors doing . Robert and mount washington, kentucky. Caller yes. My governor, andy beshear, i think he is doing one of the best jobs that any governor could possibly do in the United States. Schoolshut down the again and throughout the end of the year. There will be no graduations. It is horrible for our children. I agree with cuomo. Again,ning, opening up but i think the best thing for all of us to do is still for another three to four weeks just shut this down and see how everything is going. China opened their stuff back up more and now weve got disease coming out again. Dont let us open up to early. Too early. Host good morning to paul in las vegas. Caller how are you doing . Can you hear me ok . Host we cant. We can. Caller thank you for taking my call. Host how is your governor doing . Caller hes doing a great job, i think. Not opening up the state too soon. We still have a quarantine. A slight issue with unemployment. If you are working two jobs to keep up with your rent. If you got laid off from one job, you cant survive on unemployment. In other words, you are dependent on the one check. The average person is actually working more than two jobs. You cant get unemployment in additional hours. That is one thing that is stressful. If you think about the unemployment system itself, it takes time for them to actually send out money prior to the situation we are going through now. The are going to give you 600 but it will take a while to get that money. You are already in the hole. Host are you seeing a backup in the nevada system . Caller no, it shut down. You cant call. The system shut down. You have to wait a week or so to get back on it. That was one of the major issues. I dont know what he can do about that because its always been backed up by the fact we have so many people applying. Also, the people that used to have two jobs, they are stuck in a hole. If you live with someone with a landlord, they are not obligated to let you stay there. Host here is your democratic governor in tweets saying, in alignment with the federal criteria and after extensive discussions, i made the difficult decision to continue educating students through Distance Learning for the rest of the school year. We will continue our efforts to support teachers, staff, students and families throughout the academic year. Im grateful for the superintendents coordination to provide innovative resources across the state. This is the start of our plan based on the guidance of nevada experts. We will focus on making sure we whenrepared for phase one the reopening criteria is satisfied. James next in brooklyn. Good morning to you. Governor cuomo, how is he doing . Caller hes doing an awful job. He cant even keep his brother, who is infected with the coronavirus, from staying inside. He was out in long island infecting people. The media does not say anything. Chris cuomo goes on the air and ask like he was in his basement. And importantly than that, i hope you give me enough time as you do these democrat operatives that call every day, all day, monday on his press conference, Governor Cuomo was asked a question about Nursing Homes. Said if a patient from a nursing home has coronavirus, they bring back to the nursing home so they can affect other patients of the Nursing Homes. I think we need to get the families in these Nursing Homes and find out what is going on. People that are dying from this are the old. You people act like it is everybody that is dying. It is the elderly and the people that have issues with their health. Can i ask one thing . Could you maybe do a story on the reports from stanford that say the virus is a lot less than what it is . It is like. 1 . Host thats a stanford study . Caller you guys are supposed to be on top of the news and you dont know about this . Host ive heard the reference to it. I know what youre talking about. What does that say to you . What should be done . What should the federal government doing in response to a study like that . Caller we should be saying it is like the flu and get back to work. Host james in new york. Here are some comments on our social media platforms. A text from mike in new mexico saying, i dont like what Michelle Lujan grisham has done to union county, new mexico. We have no cases of covid19 so why are we still closed . Jan in michigan. Governor whitmer is doing ok. It is not working. What good is the stayathome order if it is not being enforced . Governor desantis. Marlow in florida saying he has made a mess of this. He put us all at risk for things that are not essential. We all want to leave the house but it is complete a complete fu to the Health Care Workers and those that are fighting who have lost a loved one. This viewer has done an excellent job. He closed the state when the president not think it was necessary. His loyalty remains with the people of ohio, even if it means pumping has with the president. Bumping heads with the president. In a tweet, governor holcomb has done an outstanding job in indiana. He has mobile testing teams throughout the state. I dont know anyone diagnosed with covid19 because early social distancing contain the virus in our area. Oregon,l in portland card. He governors report protecting frontline workers, a. Economic recovery, b. Felicia in des moines, iowa. Are you with us . Good morning to you, felicia. Moving on to greg in denver, colorado. How is your state governor doing . Caller the governor is doing a great job. I think our doctors are doing a great job. To have them out there, standing in front of these people who think it is ok to go around infecting other people with this virus and standing in the road and stopping them and calling them on their behavior, what a great bunch of doctors. The guy talking about the democratic operatives, come on. Im one of these People Living with aids. Im doing well because of listening to the doctors and not donald trump. The same reason i dont listen to fox news is the same reason he dont eat out of a toilet. It will make you sick. They are telling all people they should just go die. Give your life up for the economy. That is what we are getting from fox news. We should treat elderly people just go die for the economy. I dont see any of them drinking the koolaid. All these people calling out old people to give up their lives for the economy, are you kidding me . Talk about operatives. Alex jones selling fake tears online, then hes out there with his white supremacist friends trying to start a racial war using the coronavirus like our president is to spread hate and devices this divisiveness. Host this is on fox news. For Lieutenant Governor of texas was on with Tucker Carlsen on his show. He talked about the argument. Opening up the state. [video] you were pretty clear in what you thought might happen in our conversation a month ago. If they dont pull us back a little bit, you are going to see a lot of people out of work and you will see the economy crushed. Do you think you have been vindicated . Im sorry and vindicated. I wish it had not happened but im a Small Business guy and i have been around the block to see what would happen. When you start shutting down people and peoples paychecks and businesses cant open and governments are not getting revenues and on and on, im sorry to say i was right on this. Finallykful we are now beginning to open up texas and other states because it has been long overdue. They told us to follow the science. What science . Fauci end of january, dr. Said this was not a big issue. A few weeks later we were going to lose 2 Million People. Now it is under 60,000. Weve had the wrong numbers, the wrong science. I dont blame them, but lets face reality of where we are. In texas, we have lost 495. Every life is valuable but 500 people at a 29 million and we are locked down and crushing the average worker. We are crushing Small Business. We are crushing this country. I said there are more important things than living. That is saving this country for my children and grandchildren and saving this country for all of us. I dont want to die. We have to take some risks and get back in the game and get this country back up and running. Host that was the texas Lieutenant Governor on Tucker Carlsens show. State budgets will suffer long after pandemic. Unlike the federal government that runs on debt, 40 of the 50 states operate under statutory or constitutional mandates to balance the budget. They have to either generate the revenue or make unpopular cuts in places like public schools, state worker pay, Law Enforcement or recreation centers. Governors and state lawmakers demand washington fork over 400 billion to avoid slashing spending in their states. Doug, how is Governor Desantis doing . Caller im a democrat. At first i thought, oh boy. Then i thought he was doing a good job until spring break hit and he kept the beaches open. Now he has opened the beaches again. What is this guy thinking . He goes i willen follow the no action president. That shows us where we stand. You have a good day. Host is your governor your governor was on twitter yesterday. Wasttening the curve necessary from preventing hospital summing overwhelmed. Florida has a medically increased hit bed capacity since the start of the pandemic. Deborah and indiana. In indiana. How is your governor doing . Caller . Governor hogan. In my world, politically, hes doing fine. He did not interrupt anything that the citizens normally do, like go to the Grocery Store or do anything like that. Experiencedng we was our children could not go to school. Every thing else Everything Else, in my community and my world, we still talk to our neighbors. We shake hands. You know what . Neighbors, wey normally go to church on sundays. Bible studies on wednesday. That is what gives us faith and encouragement to deal with world has toer the offer. We dont deal with this hypothetical. We dont have enough money to play this game. He gave us ther, opportunity to be ourselves. Even the police dont bother us. William in fairborn, ohio. You are next. Governor dewine . Caller i think hes doing a great job. He closed down the place before the president did, which is showing empathy towards us, the people of the state. I would like to know with a Social Security and disability stimulus checks are. He talked about them, trump did, but we dont see them. Host you have not seen it yet . Caller we are still the same boat as everybody else. Right . Host william in ohio. Your governor tweeting out yesterday, we will ask people to continue social distancing. Businesses and retail shops all operate differently but we are going to help them. We cannot look at may 1 as a date everything will be back to normal. We want to make ohios come back strong, but we want to make ohios come back safe. Lola in lakeland, florida. What do you think about Governor Desantis . Caller awesome. Please denigrate job. Hes done a great job. I disagree with some of the collars from florida, but hes done an awesome job. The lady from indiana, i would like to let her know i agree with you, sweetheart. 100 . God bless everybody and everybody really needs to look up. Im telling you, people are so divided. God is good all the time. That is the one being to be looking to. These people need to really search their heart. Is sovisive, the ugly terrible on our country right now. God bless you all. Host mary sends us this tweet. Governor whitmer is doing a fantastic job considering being ridiculed by the Trump Administration which is promoting the protest rallies in the state. Stay home, stay safe. Here is the governor of michigan. She was participating in a Washington Post event yesterday. Here is what she has to say about those protests in her state. [video] there are a lot of complications with that. We have a lot of first responders. We have to protect their health as well. A growing number of people throwing a number of people in , not a smart thing strategy when youre trying to spread a global pandemic. That is precisely why on the phone call with the governors yesterday i did ask the Vice President for some assistance from the federal government to reiterate how important it is to observe stayathome orders. I know we have all seen the pictures of these demonstrations. The good news is the vast majority of people in my state and in all these other states having demonstrations, the vast majority are doing the right thing. We see that bear out in the numbers of what google tells us how much people are traveling. We see that bear out in terms of the curve that continues to flatten. The vast majority of people are doing the right thing. If we could get some support out of the federal government to reiterate how important it is to stay the course, to stayathome, that is how we stop the spread and get to a place where we can safely start to reengage sectors of our economy. I know thats what everyone wants. Host Governor Whitmer participating in a Washington Post event yesterday. You can watch the whole event at cspan. Org. York. In new caller good morning. Im very disappointed. I would rate the governor eight d . Us a its unacceptable. The governor needs to do more. He needs to do more. Host what else should he do . Can assist thehe seniors who were passing away in droves in the Senior Citizens homes. They are passing away like it is unbelievable. You dont hear too much. He can go to washington, thats fine. He went to speak with the president. This is unacceptable and i think he needs to bring more attention, raise more awareness as to what is happening to our seniors. Im 72 years old, veteran. Fighting on the line. Im going to the governor, to jersey, just today. There will be a press conference on a program. Save our seniors. Jersey protesting, helping activists to make the point that we need to save our seniors. Host troy in fleetwood, pennsylvania. Caller hi. I cant really say anything too bad. I dont agree with this total lockdown stuff or stay in place states withially in are basically two or three major cities and thats where the problems are. Telling people they cant do the , it is just down. Dumb. I dont like to criticize because i see so much of it on tv, but people need to work. They need to allow certain people to go back to their jobs. Walmart is open. There are hundreds of people in walmart. Open,or Wolfs Company is a furniture company. You cant pick and choose. Ok, troy. He used to be my boss when he was the head of revenue. Hes doing a wonderful job letting doctors and scientists set the agenda on how to deal with covid19. Eddie in illinois, you are next. How is your governor doing . Caller hes not doing well at all. He lets the other governors in the surrounding states be his guide. He is afraid to make a move on his own. He needs to separate chicago from the rural areas in illinois. Chicago is all on their own. We all need to get back to work. Down here in the suburbs. Thank you. Host Governor Pritzker in illinois, democrat. We have been covering several of the governors briefings at cspan. If you want to get an idea of how other governors are responding or watch her own governor, go to cspan. Org. You can find out coverage there of the Coronavirus Response by the state and federal government. The president this morning tweeting out that he will be signing that executive order prohibiting immigration into our country. In the meantime, even without this order, the southern border aided substantially by the 170 miles in newport are well and 27,000 mexican soldiers is very tight, including for human trafficking. The wall street Journal Editorial Board critical of the president s decision, saying this morning, immigrants are providing essential work like farm labor, meatpacking, food preparation and grocery delivery helping the country endure. The new american economy. 3. 8 million workers in the Food Industry are foreignborn. They write 20 in agriculture. The white house concedes that the order will carve out exceptions for farming Health Care Workers. Unless he wants crops rotting in the fields and covid19 patients to go untreated, the foreignborn share of u. S. Doctors and Health Care Workers is roughly 16. 5 . All of which suggests mr. Trumps real calculation is political. John in chantilly, virginia. Caller good morning. Thank you for taking my call. Place. Ou for the safe my governor is doing well. Hes a governor who knows how his people can go to work one day healthy. I dont understand the people who call and request in saying we need to go back to work. How do you go back to work when you know the disease will kill the person next to you and you dont even know who has it . The most important thing is these people coming up saying we need to go back to work, look at the flags they have. They are not about open business. They are about supporting the president. I can tell you this. All the governors, they are dealing with something that never dealt with before. This was a hurricane they were not expecting. The most important thing is we dont want to become a democrat and republican. We are americans right now. The disease does not have any party. 42 Million People did not die for nothing. People need to wake up. I would rather have a safe house with my children and have a roof over my head until we figure out this thing thing going back to work. I am working two jobs. Im not worried about that right now because i see help people devastated our when they get sick. We need to wake up. People who are really attacking the governors, there is a time to attack the governor and there was a time to think and see what is good for our country. Host glenn in birmingham gwen in birmingham, alabama. Ayller my governor is k ivey and she is not doing a good job. Social distancing. He was the first one, our mayor, shut down a lot of the basics. Im outraged. I have been outraged at those protests. The majority are white people. Privileged. That looks like privileged to me. The majority of people dying are black people. Im on cspan to do a segment on that. Let me repeat myself. The majority of people dying are africanamericans and latinos. We are the essential workers. With a governor in georgia talked about opening up barbershops, black people, nail salons, asian americans. You salons, black women. Beauty salons, black women. Why are you opening up where black people are concerned . Cspan, you need to do a segment on this. Host we did. We did a segment recently about the Racial Disparities in this pandemic. We talked with dr. Wayne frederick about the racial and health disparities. You can go to cspan. Org. Inthe box at the top, put dr. Frederick. You will be able to watch that segment on the racial and health disparities. In cheswick, pennsylvania, b ert. How are you . Caller i would give our governor a d. I live in western pennsylvania. We have 2500 cases here. It is like night and day from western pennsylvania to eastern pennsylvania. One more comment. Should be open for elective surgeries. We only have 2500 cases. That is how the hospitals make all their money. God bless america. Host Washington Times has this graphic. Southern states start reopening. Hairia will allow gyms, salons, bowling alleys to open as long as they follow strict social distancing and hygiene requirements. Tennessee is allowing the safe ride home order to expire april 30. South carolina, some nonessential stores can reopen including department stores, bookstores and music shops but must you social distancing. The mississippi governor was asked by his southern governors coalition. [video] oure had a great call with fellow southern governors from florida, georgia, tennessee and alabama. We had a great conversation. All of us are of similar mind. We each have different circumstances and different situations that are unique to each individual state. I do think it is very clear. We moved to first last week by reopening beaches for those communities who wanted to, i opening fishing on lake for those responsible and wanted to do so, and by allowing curbside sales for Small Business owners throughout the state. I am not at all surprised. This is sort of exactly what i anticipated occurring with some and the south continuing to work to reopen. I think you will certainly see us continuing to have conversations as to what the rollout looks like. We want to do it in a responsible, safe way, but we want to make sure we get as many people back to work so they are providing for themselves as best they can. Yes, we are working together. We are in conversations. I spoke with Many Republican governors last night. We spoke with them on sunday. We may have had a call on saturday as well. The days are coming running together. We are working closely and will continue to do so. We have some challenges, particularly downward dave lives because of the major spike in cases in new orleans. Thats a little unique to many in the southeast. We have to recognize that and deal with that in a different way then maybe some other states that dont have new orleans within 30 or 40 miles of the border. We are working closely with them. Host the mississippi governor talking about whats happening in Southern States. We are getting a reaction to how your governors are responding to the coronavirus pandemic. How would you rate their performance . Seth in newport, kentucky. Caller i would rate Governor Beshear about average. He seems to be reactionary. He did seem to focus more on which is not a fan of. A libertarianleaning republican. Thomas massie and rand paul are bringing up the need for discussion. We need the senate and congress to be in session, especially with these big bills. Host you watched caller i did not. I saw two clips. There needs to be debate in congress and that is what i will comment on. Host we will talk about that in our last hour bang of washington journal, the senate and expected to go to the floor on thursday. Caller good morning. I was calling in today about Governor Cuomo. I think he is doing a pretty good job for the most part. I was pleased with him the other day because he brought up the essential workers and how they dying in aut proportionate dust disproportionate numbers and getting hazard pay to us. I have not received any of that and i have not heard anybody in the media bring it up. I heard trump bring it up once and never again. The yesterday, we spent first hour asking all of you should frontline workers receive hazard pay . We showed our viewers what your governor had to say. Caller i tried to call in at that point in time. I couldnt get through, unfortunately. Areess my point is, we giving 600 a week additionally to everyone on unemployment. Those people are staying home. They are safe. A woman called in from alabama talking about how people are disproportionately dying from this are of color and that is why, because they are essential workers. The government needs to pay essential workers fairly. Host we will take a closer look at efforts to use technology to track covid19 cases in the United States with brent skorup of the merck eight us center mercadis center. We will explore the practical and constitutional issues with daniel freeman. Washingtonring a post event, jb pritzker responded to President Trumps comments about his lack of understanding on testing. Base my opinions on fact, but the truth of the matter is the president does not understand the difference between Testing Capacity and getting testing results. Testing capacity that he is referring to, you have got enough machines in each of your states to run tests that will give you hundreds of thousands of results. He may be right, and he is right in illinois, but what he is not right about his we dont have the supplies to run those tests, so you have the capacity because you have got the machines, but you need everything from swabs tovtm, viral transport adm, medium, to reagent, and if you dont have all of those and there is a worldwide shortage of all of those things and you cannot run a test. To do what he is suggesting, you would have to run those machines 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Many are in private Doctors Offices and hospitals and for us to run any test you have to have an agreement with those doctors and hospitals, but then you need Lab Technicians that can run those tests for you. In order to run machines 24 7, you need three shifts of Lab Technicians on these machines, so the idea that we could do that without the supplies, without enough Lab Technicians is kind of crazy. We needed for the federal government to enact the defense production act to make it easier for us to obtain the swabs and vtm and reagent that we need. None of that has been done at the government level and that is the mistake that happened. Everyone including libertarians would tell you the purpose of the federal government at a minimum is to manage a National Emergency. This is a National Emergency not being managed well from the white house. Washington journal continues. Host brent skorup is a Senior Research fellow with George Mason University here to talk about Contact Tracing testing. What is that . Guest Contact Tracing, this is when Public Health officials during a pandemic, during a disease, when people are infected Public Health officials will try to determine who that person came in contact with in recent days, and encourage those isolate, quarantine or and in some countries require those people to quarantine and isolate. , there is amagine lot of Contact Tracing going on around the world with covid19, the coronavirus pandemic. When people test positive, Public Health officials will try to identify who is in the household and workplace and identify those people that someone tested positive and they should take appropriate steps to prevent the spread of the illness. Host do they get tested as well . Guest it depends on the country and resources available. If they dont have symptoms in the u. S. , generally they will not be. They will be encouraged to selfquarantine for a while. In some countries, they will test if they have the testing ability. Host what technology are states and governments using for contract Contact Tracing . Guest you are seeing a few technologies. The major two are geolocation and bluetooth technology. With geolocation, this is gps. Most of our smartphones, we have one or single apps with geolocation capability. There are hundreds of apps with geolocation capability. , they areuntries using geolocation capability for Contact Tracing. This is an app made by the government and people downloaded , and because the gps can say where you are, the government will use those records to the gps records to see who someone was in contact with or nearby for a long period of time. In hong kong, if you are an , they use iteler for quarantine enforcement. You get a gps wristband and need to stay at home for a period of time. In poland and taiwan, they are using gps. There is an app to download and if you test positive, you record that in the Public Health officials will see with gps and in the app you downloaded, who you are in contact with. The other is bluetooth and bluetooth operates differently. It doesnt give precise locations, however it is a lowpower Wireless Technology that transmits within a few , yous and with these apps see researchers and nations working on them, lets say i the plumbing in my apartment breaks down or has a problem, and i have a plumber come in. If he has the app and i have the app, it will log that we were together in close proximity and if he starts feeling ill, he would log that in the app and i would be notified. Came iny, somebody i contact with tested positive so bluetooth does not give you location but records who you are in proximity with. Host i want to invite our viewers to join in on this conversation, if you have questions or if you have experience with Contact Tracing. In the eastern and central part of the country, 202 7488000. Mountain and pacific, 202 7488001. Medical professionals, 202 7488002. Name,n text us, first city and state, 202 7488003. I want to show our viewers Georgia Governor Brian Kemp and what he had to say about Contact Tracing relying on a google map with patient consent. [video clip] you tof will contact schedule a test at one of the designated locations near your home. Your Health Care Location will be securely transmitted to your designated testing site. Reduceseamlined process stress on the patient and the testing site workers. Once you arrive for your appointment, you will provide a specimen for testing. From there, we will leverage the power of several key academic institutions to process the tests including augustine university, Georgia State university, and the georgia Public Health lab. Will bely 72 hours, you able to access your test results via a secure Patient Portal and a medical provider will contact you directly if you are positive. In clinician will direct you app with in a google where consent, the government can use enhanced contact monitoring and tracing. Host what are your thoughts on what you heard from the governor and how this will work . Guest i am hopeful Something Like this will work. As the governor emphasized, it is voluntary. Some nations do require it. There is Great Potential here. It is not a cureall. Contact tracing requires laborious phone calls from Public Health officials and doorknocking and home visits, but the idea that technology can people thatdown the infected people have been in contact with is a good thing. Many nations and states are experimenting with this. It was big news a few weeks ago that apple and google are working together to work on a Contact Tracing app, and these are onees companies 99 of smartphones, so there is great dental there could be potential there could be appreciable use of these apps. It would make the job easier for Public Health officials. If you volunteer this information, you can help them know who you were in proximity with. Host what is the goal . Guest the goal is to Contact People who have been in contact with someone who was infected and encourage them to selfisolate and say, you were near someone who is infectious, you might be infectious, and because there are asymptomatic carriers, the goal is to encourage folks that they might not know they can trans transmitted to their family members and coworkers, and that way limit the spread, flatten the curve as they say, so that we can all get back to work. We can not spread this at the rate it has been spreading, and relieve the pressure on our medical system. Host you talked about the applegoogle partnership. What are the legal hurdles for companies doing this and the constitutional issues . Guest in normal times, even here, Companies Need consent to use substantive data. That includes location data and health, they need your consent. They cannot just take it and sell it and give it to Public Health officials without consent. Apple wants to do, they want this bluetooth to be downloaded and have everyone use it. They have a similar app that has about 12 use in the country. Apple and google have very Extensive Networks and pr network, and they want this to be voluntary. The issue is that many Public Health officials, many governments want to know more than just someone tested positive. They want to know who that person was in contact with and they want these apps to help them with that. This week it was reported by bloomberg that french and eu officials want to invert an apple to tell them not only who tested positive google and apple to tell them not only who tested positive but who they were in contact with. We will see whether they do that. They want this to be entirely voluntary and bottomup, but in the next few weeks when this app is released, we will see if states want to mandate this or make it voluntary. Host how does the Fourth Amendment play into this debate . The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, ands papers, unreasonable searches and seizures but upon probable cause by oath and affirmation and describing the place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized. Guest in the past few years there has been a small revolution in Fourth Amendment cases. In 2012 you have these new technologies like gps and cell phones that obviously were not around 200 years ago. The Supreme Court has read into the constitution that there are these terms of effects that are protected. The Supreme Court has held that when police or Public Officials an edata, that is in ffect and a search when they use that data. In 2012 in the jones case they held unanimously that public data is protected by the Fourth Amendment. Generally, they need a warrant to get the information. Constitutional, we are protected from unreasonable searches and seizures, so if Public Health officials want geolocation data or health information, do they need a warrant or is it reasonable to get it without a warrant given the situation . There is no clear issues on that. Public Health Issues want this to be voluntary. Host denise in linden, michigan. Caller my concern is if we open the government too fast, how are we going to do all this tracing . Right now, the attorney general of the United States is talking about taking states to court if they dont adhere to his rules. I dont understand how we can do all this tracing. Guest thank you. And i agree. I dont think we should be in a end thereopen, to stayathome orders that we have had in place for a month. Most people, when you survey americans, most people favor stayathome orders consistently, 70 , 80 . I dont think Public Officials, governors will rush into this and because of that reason you mentioned, it will be hard to trace everyone if everyone is going about their normal lives. It is concerning that even in these near shutdown the number of deaths and hospitalizations have only plateaued and if we reopen too quickly we run the risk of striking spiking and straining our Hospital System again. Host brent in mechanicsburg. Caller i have a question about Contact Tracing in the previous segment. I agree it is a difficult thing to do and Contact Tracing somebody today, and they do something next week, so we do this forever and never open up because you cant do whicht tracing forever, is what it seems to be, you, are implying should be happening. Getting back to the comment i would like to make about the previous segment, the caller who complained about the lack of coverage on cspan, the effect on black people, stop apologizing. I think cspan has done a fairly good job. There is no reason to apologize for anybody. Did notdid not say promote Contact Tracing and im not apologizing. Caller yes, you did. Host i pointed out we had covered it for. Before. Contact the point about tracing and this tweet from a viewer, once the system is turned on and will never be turned off and the process regarding personal information and close contacts will be forever a part of data information, but they are already doing it, though. Already tracking movements. Guest this is the critical issue, and a lot of reticence about these apps and whether it should be mandated is because in a crisis, often what is done is extended beyond the crisis so you have National Emergency situations that go well beyond the crisis. We have the iran hostage declaration in place from 40 years ago, so it is a legitimate worry. Often extends beyond. That is why google and apple want this to be voluntary, and any Contact Tracing program should have a firm and date end with the possibility of an extension if things get out of hand, but there should be an end date. Host richard in san diego, what do you think about using this technology for Contact Tracing . Caller you know, technology is a great thing, dont get me wrong. I think it is something that we could use to our advantage. Peopleblem is that the are kind of distrusting about it , is there is so much information that we have been told in the Technology World that is untrue as far as privacy. This is just one more step in that direction, and then the comment he made on about the Fourth Amendment, when he read him the Fourth Amendment, he come back with the normal tech knology question technology question, we didnt have technology then. That is true, but if you read it notcommon sense it, it is trying to change technology. It is trying to preserve your right as a person. Host ok, brent skorup . Guest this idea of how to interpret the constitution in the changing world, this was anticipated by the framers of the constitution. The Supreme Court has shown it is welcome, the opportunity to reexamine its older precedents when technology changes. In 2018, there was a carpenter case. A guy had been involved in a string of burglaries, thefts, got hisy, and police cell phone information without a warrant. The Supreme Court held that using months of cell phone information of geolocation is a search, and they interpreted the constitution to protect geolocation cell phone information and changed their prior precedent. The court has shown an ability to update for modern realities and we will see them do that. It is relevant for this discussion we are having about how and when government can use geolocation information in a time of crisis. Host here is a text from benny what happens if you do not want to be tracked . Will you not be allowed to go back to work, parks, schools . I do not trust it will be voluntary either. Indicate thes country is split about 5050. I expect there is a divide in the country. If you are in new york or the northeast, this is a very imminent threat to people around you. If like my parents and many of my friends, you are in illinois or wyoming or montana, this is not the threat it is in a larger city. That is part of the divide over this, where you are. These emergencies, they tend to last beyond the emergency and we have got to be very cautious about what is mandated. There has not been to my knowledge a mandate of any of these apps in the United States. That could change in the months and years ahead, but there are not any mandates now and this is consent based. You can opt in or opt out. Host there is discussion of immunity passports. What does that mean . Passport munity and the question went to dr. Anthony found she a couple of a couple fauci weeks ago, the idea that people are immune and not infectious that they can have a certification that they are not, and this can give them greater freedom to work around in an office or sensitive area. Doctors and nurses who contract the disease and are now immune would have more freedom in what they can do, and there is this idea that we could use the Health Immunity passport to allow people into sensitive areas who might not otherwise be allowed in. One example of what this might look like, Emirates Airlines gave a blood test to their passengers and tested every passenger on a flight. Gave them a blood test at the gate before the flight, and only when people test negative are they allowed on the flight. If it is a private company doing this, there is no Fourth Amendment issues. There may be some privacy norms, but there is not a Fourth Amendment issue if Companies Start doing this. Said, thisfauci could be a possibility that we have companies or venue owners doing fever tests or temperature tests and allowing only people in who meet certain criteria. We should approach this with our eyes wide open. This is a possibility, although not widespread in the u. S. Host m. I. T. Technology review has pointed out there are flaws in immunity testing. There are Serious Problems using the test to determine immunity status. We know very little about what human immunity to the disease ,ooks like, how long it lasts whether it prevents reinfection, or whether you may be contagious. Genetics could play a role. James encamped in, New Hampshire james in role campton, new mexico. Caller we have not suffered as as much as other areas. Have a daughter who is an emergency room physician. I would tend to say whatever and thereo to test where exposure is afforded. We dont need to have discussion about First Amendment rights. This was a terrible situation and it was featured on cnn, a particular hospital. I would say in an emergency situation, an academic discussion about personal or civil right has to be put in perspective. Week, half of a hospital was closed down, 600 people were furloughed. Probably economically it was closed down. They will be forced into a merger and probably will not emerge from this in totality, and will affect the entire midsection of New Hampshire. Host brent skorup . Guest this gets to what i mentioned earlier. Someones views on this will depend on where they are and how hard hit their region is being hit. Expect and you see this in white house planning documents and state governor offices is there will be a series of phases and they will often be region or county based. Infection willof be treated differently than say new york city. With these technologies or stayathome orders, you will see more of a customized approach depending on the region and the specifics. Hopefully, that will alleviate the concerns about being too oppressive or harming the economy. Host brent in sheboygan, wisconsin how are we supposed to trace the 11 million undocumented immigrants already here and the ones crossing over now . Luther in washington, d. C. , good morning. Caller something that is being omitted is that Large Companies like google politically benefit from swooping in and saving the day, saving us from the pandemic. Is being, google investigated by the department of justice for antitrust violations, and i know that google gives money to the mercada center. I wonder if your guest knows how much they receive annually, since they have kept this effectively to give more power to google and sanitize their reputation politically in washington. I dont do fundraising and i encourage anyone who is interested, you can go on the website and see how it operates. Scholars do not do any fundraising so i dont know any ring about that personally. Can get more. Org. Mation at mercatus thank you for your time. Guest thank you. Host congress is one step closer to remote Voting Technology in this pandemic. We will explore the practical and constitutional issues with daniel freeman. Senator Mike Lee Hans the highlighted constitutional issues congress is facing from the pandemic. I was interested when i was interested when senator schumer was talking about adding this or that provision into the deal. Most of us were not part of the process and most of us thought this legislative package, this bill, only within the last few hours, that is not a true negotiation or legislative process. I understand we are in unusual circumstances, but we cant let it happen this way again. This is not acceptable. We should not be passing major legislation providing nearly a half trillion dollars in new spending without congress being in session, without members being here to debate, amend, consider legislation and vote individually rather than on an absentee basis, rather by delegating that power to someone else. This crisis is too big to leave up to a small handful of people. Different parts of the country will face different rats and have different kind different threats and have different kinds of needs. Will havestates different needs to recover the health of the economy and as long as Congress Remains in reef free tos, democrats are stifle with impunity, only to return to work impunity. Only to return to work and continue working will give American People the government they deserve. They need to know who will help them and to is simply playing politics. We cannot spend another half trillion dollars every week or two or three and pretend it will turn out ok. The upcoming challenges are far too numerous and onerous and complex to leave up to a few Staff Meetings behind closed doors. We have issues on testing, leave, theth care, traditional system, just to name a few. These require serious legislative action and we cannot give these issues the attention they deserve by sitting in our respective homes. I am not saying members are not working. Most of the members have been working as hard as ever, but we cannot do that which is uniquely our job. We can make phone calls and help solve problems like any american could, but cannot do the job for which we were elected without actually being here. Washington journal continues. Host we will continue our question about action in the senate. ,he Senate Approves more aid including on testing, 484 billion plan. The house slated to vote on this legislation. We will get your reaction to this latest effort i members of congress. The president will sign this bill into law. Small Business Owners as well as employees, we want to hear from you about what you think of this additional aid for Small Businesses. Medical professionals, we want to hear from you as well because there is money in this bill, billions of dollars for hospitals, give us an idea of how much you need, and a line for everyone else. Lets begin with Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell on the floor yesterday, praising the latest coronavirus deal but lamenting it took too long to add the funding to the paycheck protection program. [video clip] this is a significant package. It does just what i outlined in the evening we passed the cares act. The Senate Continues to stand by the American People, watching the cares act go into effect and adding funding as necessary to keep programs that are going well. It is unfortunate it took our democratic colleagues 12 days to come to a deal that contains nothing republicans opposed. It is indefensible that main street Small Businesses and workers had their assistance cut off for partisan leverage. That was the word of choice for one leading house democrats, leverage. The American People cannot be political leverage. I am glad we are now poised to move ahead. Host Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell on the floor yesterday as the house passed that nearly 500 billion dollars legislation which brings the total to 2. 7 trillion, of the amount of federal aid congress has approved in the last six weeks. Many lawmakers saying they are not done yet, they want to pass more legislation dealing with Cash Payments for americans as well as other provisions. States need money as well. Here is the minority leader Chuck Schumer on the floor talking about testing and hospital funding that was just past. [video clip] includes 100lso billion to fight the coronavirus itself. We are not going to cure the economic problem unless we care the health problem. We can give loans to Small Businesses but if there are no customers, what good is that . So we insisted that 75 billion go to hospitals. Hospitals are going underwater. Certainly the big ones in cities like mine that have been an epicenter of corona, but smaller hospitals in rural areas. Rural representatives are telling us there hospitals might go under and mediumsized hospitals in new york state, saint joes in syracuse, saint petes in albany have laid off 700 people this week. They will get help because of what we did. Toperts are clear fight this disease and reopen the economy safely, we need to dramatically expand Testing Capacity and frequency. We do not have enough test. That cry rings from one end of america to another we dont have enough tests. Now, help is on the way because democrats stood and fought for it. 25 billion, 11 billion to go to the states to help them test and do the Contact Tracing they need. Money to help create a manufacturing and supply chain that will have adequate tests and adequate supplies for those tests so we can finally get them going. We need them desperately. The the minority leader on floor yesterday, Chuck Schumer, democrat of new york talking about the push by democrats to include on a for hospitals and testing. Money forinclude hospitals and testing. The president will sign this bill into law. What do you think of this aid package, 484 billion divided by Small Business owners, employees, and hospitals. Mark, you are up first. What do you think . Caller thank you for cspan. They need to do something more for the independent contractor. Can you please ask your guest if they support mandating 50 of people makings to 200,000 or less, independent contractors . It is important socially and economically. Hasthing i really want, it been hard for veterans and Small Business owners. I feel bad for the independent contractor. Congress and maybe go to Small Businesses making less than 250,000. Host what is your business . Caller we do educational grants, energy, low and moderate people. It is very interesting that the majority of this bill they passed, the 2 trillion, the payroll protection program, it 20 given 243 billion out, 5 to uppermiddleclass corporations and businesses. Bush did the same thing with wall street bailouts with the financial crisis so it is important that they look out for the younger people and the younger entrepreneurs coming out in this world. Thank you for cspan, and i hope you ask your guest to make it important to help 50 of those. Host steve is also a Small Business owner in florida. What is your business . Caller we are in Aviation Company that transports patients by aircraft. We put our request for the grant and the ppp the second day it was available, and our bank recently told us we are not available to any of those funds because of our rank in line. The banker told my wife that even if the second drawn to comes through we wouldnt get it because of our second drawn to comes through we would traunche comes through, we would not get it because of our position in line. It is pretty upsetting that Large Companies get these loans, cheap loans, forgivable loans, when the real Small Businesses of the world are not getting anything. Host how much longer can you go if you do not get access to this money . Caller probably about two months. Host do you have some business right now . Caller very little, very little. Host why is that . Caller our business, we transport patients by aircraft from one hospital to another state maybe, and most of our flights are discretionary elected flights so when you get in a situation like this, people do not want to spend money like this. Host take a look at a politico article about how the government is responding but they have culled together what they think the government needs to be doing. It may take 1 trillion to keep Small Businesses alive based on the burn rate. Legislatey to remotely as if it were stuck in the 19th century, appeared to seal a 480 4 billion deal tuesday that would bring the total for Small Businesses up to around 670 billion. In total, the u. S. Fiscal response badly trails that of european nations like germany. Crashing oil prices threaten a key piece of the economy and most of the tools we have are meant to address the opposite problem. Good morning, sandra. Caller good morning. Host why do you think about action taken in washington this week for Small Businesses, hospitals, and additional testing . Caller that is all great, but everybody is forgetting one thing right now and that is the essential workers. Day. Sband goes out every he leaves at 6 00 in the morning to open up the store and they have not offered him a bonus. They have not offered him extra pay, anything. We have grandchildren in the home, a fiveyearold and a fouryearold. We have a routine. He comes in, goes straight to the shower. Have to go in a trash bag that go straight into the washer. I lysol and clean every day. I am disabled. It is kind of like going back to the vietnam war, they fought for our country and came back and were not welcomed. It is like we are going through that again. Host so sandra, you want to see Congress Acting for people like your husband, hazard pay, a bonus . Caller exactly, because they are putting them on the back burner. Host as we said, the house looking to vote on this latest economic aid package on third day thursday, and they are considering a measure for remote or proxy voting. Joining us on the phone is daniel freeman, the former parliamentarian for the House Judicial Committee and a fellow for the cental for president ial studies. What is it that they are considering with proxy voting . How would that work . Guest i dont know the answer to that, because everyone is using loose terms and one thing i learned in law school is to find the problem. I dont know whether they are talking about proxy voting or remote voting, and they are two different things. Proxy voting and we used to have this when i worked on the hill one member would authorize another member to vote for him or her during their absence. If they have proxy voting, it is possible according to some of the discussion, that you could have one member be authorized by 3, 4, 5, 7 members to vote in their stead. You could have one third of the body or one quarter of the body or however members however many members are there, and you would count each member and how many people they are voting for. Remote voting would allow members anywhere in the world or maybe anywhere in washington, d. C. , or their state offices to vote electronically. It is not quite clear. Aeny hoyer has come out with proposal to allow for remote voting, but nobody knows, nobody has a document i can look at that will tell me exactly what it is meant to do. The first question for anybody considering this is, what kind of process are we talking about . Are we talking about proxies or remote voting . If we do emergency measure to handle this situation, what would you consider a triggering mechanism . Is it a pandemic . Is it a 9 11 . Is it the super bowl and members do not want to come in town because the super bowl is being played . If you do invoke a remote voting type of situation, how long does it last . Said,are, as some people some potential constitutional questions and i suspect law professors are killing trees and spelling inc. About whether it is constitutional or not. About whether it is constitutional or not. It means tot actually have a quorum, but the constitution says the house and senate have total control over what they do. They cannot be charged to respond in any other place for how they effectuate their processes. Have isuestion that i more beyond the legal issues, is what are the institutional questions involved . Those i think are really substantial, and the House Rules Committee and its report says there is no in its report says there is no guarantee the guarantee the constitutionality the court will guarantee the constitutionality and there is no guarantee any case well get to the Supreme Court in a timely manner. I would like to talk about the constitutional questions involved. Host go ahead. Guest what process would you use to go about changing the rules to use remote voting or proxy voting . They are two separate things. In order to change the rules of ie house or the senate, which am not familiar with, you would need to have a live quorum in town or unanimous consent. One member can object to unanimous consent and that kills it. You have to have at least one meeting to change the rules. The second thing i would like to know is under what conditions would you be able to trigger this kind of different process . Voting or do proxy we mean remote voting . And for how long would it be in effect . If you are running the show right now, how long do you think the pandemic is going to be a fact there . Factor . 30 days, 40 days, 50 days . How long do you invoke this new process . For whatquestion is, kind of matters do you invoke the process . There has been all kinds of discussions. Would you do it only for votes on bills suspending the rules, which is the house process it uses for noncontroversial matters . Under normal process, suspension of the rules, there is 40 minutes of debate and no amendments but you need a two thirds vote. Would you allow this kind of remote voting for suspension bills, or would you allow this kind of remote voting for regular pieces of legislation, including rules from the rules committee . Would you allow it for procedural votes, which happen all the time . And no those decisions proposal that i am aware of as of 8 30 this morning, have dealt with these specific issues. They always say the devil is in the details. The senate does not work like the house does, but they have got some noncontroversial items including possibly some executive calendar things meaning confirmations. How would you limit in the senate . In the subset of all of these things is, shouldnt its up shouldnt it applied to committees, the work of committees . Woodrow wilson said the work of the committee is the work of congress. Do you allow proxy voting when you are marking up a bill in committee . Remotely, how are members going to keep up with that . If you allow that, which is going to be very difficult, then how do you decide what matters you are going to allow voting by this other process to take place . Are you talking about amendments in committee . Maybe that is one way to do it. Do you talk about only votes on final package . That is a separate issue. How about procedural boards . We frequently have procedural votes in committees. Thereout whether or not would be this kind of other process in place of votes on final passage . These are all really nuts and bolts important questions that need to be decided before you put a process in. You cannot have people debating what the process means after you have put it into place. Then there is another overarching issue, the issue of the slippery slope. Or if they, meaning the members decide they want to have a new process, the publicmal for only health emergencies, and it will last 42. 5 days, what is the next step . And istep will be was being facetious but i said the super bowl is being played today so we dont want any votes. How do you how far do you extend it . A member from california very actively involved in Congressional Affairs said he is concerned that virtual hearings would be i am quoting him so effective that people will want to do it rather than come to washington. He warned that if you are able to put in this kind of electronic wizardry, that there would be no Human Interaction between the members. As he said and i am quoting again i can see members down the road saying maybe we will come every week. Maybe that dynamic makes congress so effective when it is functioning that we do not have to show up at all. It would be an easy thing to do. There would be a dramatic change in the functioning of congress when they decide to start having tuesday to thursday days of voting, and when they were finished, members would not come in until monday evening late and the fumes were detected and members wanted to get out of town. As soon as the 5 00 val rang rang, whatever the last vote was, they were out raising money. Members do not get to know each other. I am a guy who has been there a long time. And silvioneill conti use to fight like cats and dogs on the floor about important issues of public import, and then they would go out to dinner together and they were actually roommates and they knew each other. I knew a member from South Carolina, very conservative guy, who told my classes when i was teaching at au. My best friend in the house is a very liberal democrat, and i got to know him because we both played on the congressional baseball team, so we got to know each other as real people. Weknow our wives names and can Work Together because we trust each other. The more distance you put between members and other members, the less kind of careful, thoughtful legislation will happen. Host daniel freeman, you have given us a lot to think about. Thank you very much. Former counsel and host lets go to sandra in ohio. We are talking about the senate approving nearly 500 billion for Small Businesses, hospitals, and testing as Congress Continues to respond. Do you approve or disapprove . Sandra, good morning. What do you think about the action taken here in washington . Caller they are doing a great job. Understand exactly what he is saying about the voting and everything, but it has nothing to do with what i am asking. I would really like to know because you have all these people that are drawing extra unemployment and they are sitting back in their safe home enjoying their family while you have the essential workers that nurses,there doctorsm, Grocery Stores, and they have to come home every day and continue to deal with whether or not they are going to make it through this. Host right. We heard your points, so i went to play for you and others what Chuck Schumer had to say after the voice vote last night on this senate deal. E laid out what the democrats priorities are for the next aid bill. Schumer it is going to have a lot of stuff, to want to list, but ilong to forbearance, the postal service, money for a heroes fund, people who are on the front lines who should get extra money, and at the top of the list is a big robust state and local plan. We will fight for that and many more things. Leader chuckority schumer on what democrats are going to be pushing for when they go to approve this next economic aid bill. What do you think about what is happening in washington . Plainfield, new jersey. Good morning to you. Isler a big concern for me what is overlooked, which is funding internationally. Thisiled my senator about and he just kind of overlooked it and i feel like this is very important because i saw and they in nigeria are not taking precautions. That is one of my concerns. Host ok. So you would want to see more aid for countries, especially developing countries, where they are hit hard by this pandemic . Caller yeah. Host we will go to stacey and mclean, virginia. You own a business. Have you try to apply for these grants . Caller i dont qualify. I own a small commercial real estate as well as residential. I could not get a loan. I dont even qualify for a stimulus check, but i do qualify to get the bill to pay for it. If the congress and senate gave every american 1 million to stay at home for two years, it would have been cheaper than what we have been doing to bailout these billionaires who dont even pay taxes, who did not even suffer any losses. Quite frankly, it is criminal. They all need to be fired. They all need to be replaced for signing off on it. And if they signed off on it in did not know what it is and its, you need to be signed off for being ignorant. They are talking about this one from the squad saying maybe we should put a bill where people do not have to pay rent. That would destroy me. That would destroy me if that happened. Luckily my tenants are financial and the others are in i. T. , so they are essential workers. But getting money is like pulling teeth. If they stop paying, i am destroyed. Paul on the floor yesterday announcing his opposition to this bill they passed last night. Listen to his argument. Is notul the question do nothing or print endless amounts of bailout cash. The debate should now include the one choice that should get our economy growing reopening american commerce. Opposition toand spending 500 billion more. The virus bailouts have already cost over 2 trillion. Our annual deficit will approach 4 trillion this year. We cannot continue on this course. No amount of bailout dollars will stimulate an economy that is being strangled by quarantine. It is not a lack of money that plagues us, but a lack of commerce. This economic calamity only resolves when we begin to reopen the economy. Opening the economy will require americans to rise above partisanship, understand the deaths from Infectious Disease will continue, but that we cannot indefinitely quarantine. Host rand paul on the floor yesterday and his opposition to the bill. State and local governments are all ski are all asking also asking the federal government for money. States run on statutory or constitutional mandates to balance their budgets. Raise taxes orto make unpopular cuts. State lawmakers prefer that washington fork over 500 billion to help them avoid slashing spending. Mary, you are a Small Business owner in elizabethtown. What do you do . Caller hello . Good morning. I have a Small Business, but im not concerned about my business. Everybody is concerned about getting business, the economy, up and running, but they are not really they are really not looking at the whole picture. Because you have to realize that a lot of people have lost their loved ones. They have not been even given the courtesy of the time to even grieve. Then know, and host i am going to jump in. Youve got to turn down that television. Listen and talk through your phone. William in alabama. Hi, william. William, are you there . Caller good morning to you. I would like to ask. I am an owneroperator. I own one truck, one trailer. I have been all across this country. I go into infected areas. I come out of infected areas and come home. What is going to be done to help the truckers . We go out. I take a good load out from where i live, my hometown, but when i get out somewhere and unload and i try to find a low coming back, i cannot even get a mile a dollar a mile to come back home. What is going to be done to help truckers . We own these trucks and stuff and we have to pay these 2000 a month truck and trailer payments. How are we going to pay these payments when everybody is letting all these brokers and Everything Else come in and cut these rates so bad that we cant make no money to get back home to get back to our regular freight . Host can you qualify for a Small Business loan . Caller i cannot, because i do not have employees. I am my only employee. Host did you qualify for the stimulus check . Yes, but that dont even pay my bills for one month. Host william there. You are looking for congress to provide something for independent Business Owners, selfemployed Business Owners like yourself. Caller yes. But im not necessarily worried about myself. Me andmily are ok my family are ok. But im speaking about truckers that may not be ok right now. Host Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell, republican of kentucky, after the vote talked about what needs to happen before congress would act again on economic aid. Think thenell i next debate needs to be when the senate is back in session with pull with full participation. And in the meantime, also take a look at how much debt we have debt we have racked up and not try to waive something through the Senate Without full participation. Host the majority on what is next. More phone calls. Woman phone, congress velasquez. Chair of the Small Business committee. What is happening there in your district . How many cases are there . What is it like . Good morning and thank you for having me, greta. Hotspot, myy is a district. One of the nursing facilities has the highest number of deaths throughout new york. Facing a crisis, definitely. Host do you see it plateauing as the governor of new york is saying . Reports thaton the he is providing to us and what we hear, yes. A number of people dying every day and it is just really sad. My heart goes out to all the families and the people that are going through this difficult time. But the number of people that are going to the hospitals is going down. The number of people, also the number of deaths every day. Know and this is we do not know and this is why we need to be careful because without the data that could be provided to us through testing, we do not have a real as to what is happening on the ground. Host what is happening with the latino population in your district . How are they being impacted . How are they responding . Are they seeking medical attention . Guest if anything, this pandemic has exposed or has crystallized inequalities that have long existed in our Health Care System and the broader economy when it comes to latinos and the black community. Look either because of the and one third of latinos like health insurance. Latinos are almost three times more likely to be uninsured. Sick, they really are concerned about the cost of treatment. Instances also, language barriers are an impediment to treatment. And we all know that latinos are more heavily represented in jobs that do not have the ability to work remotely, whether that is driving, delivering mail, stalking Grocery Store shelves stocking Grocery Store shelves. They are more exposed. Chair you the are the chair of the Small Business community committee. The legislation passed in the senate adding more to the Small Business community program. Is it enough . Isst we dont know if it enough, but it is a good step going forward. Now we have to make sure that the Financial Assistance reaches every Small Business, especially are real Small Businesses. If the money that we are allocating is enough, we dont know because we do not have access to data yet. We have been asking the ministry shouldnt to provide us with the data asking the administration to provide us with the data. To know if the program is working and fulfilling the mission intended by the legislation. Host cnn reported that the money passed through the senates would only last 10 days and that the real price tag, according to politico, is more like 1 trillion. Guest we will see what is going to happen. Probably we might have to come the to congress and work on fourth cares act to add more and also the ppp Disaster Loan Program. We will see. I am predicting that it might take that this will take us to a week or a weekend a half and then we will assess. Now is torget right that havee businesses been left behind on this first package and a second that we passed and second that we passed. We have to make sure that small farmers, veterans, i nor to businesses, main street are given a level Playing Field to apply for this money. Of the the intent program and we have to make sure we exercise the oversight so that because, as you have seen, there is coverage of big ly traded and Public Companies. The program was not designed for those kinds of companies that have easy access and have preexisting relationships with big banks. So i am concerned that big banks are not lending to truly Small Businesses. Hearde, for instance, that banks are giving priority to those customers that they have. So we have to make sure that this is done right and, you know, i use every opportunity to remind the administration that they have to issue clear banks, the that the big banks, no the intent of congress. Host what is your guidance to william, who just called in, who says it is the truckers who own their own trucks, who have payments, who are seeing a reduction in business, who art going to struggle . What are you going to say to william and other people . What resources can you access . Guest democrats worked very hard to secure 50 billion of programs. Reach 300 billion in loans for Small Businesses. We have theppp and Disaster Loan Program, so selfemployed and independent contractors could apply for the disaster loans and they could apply for the ppp. One ofve to assess which those two programs work better for them. If they do not have employees, probably the disaster loan is a better fit. Longterm payments and it might be a better answer to their needs and the nature of their business. Host finally, the president says he is going to sign this executive order that would put a temporary halt on immigration into this country. Your reaction to that and the impact of that on Small Businesses . Guest again, it is shortsighted. That, atlly sad to see this moment where we are dealing , that rathersis than working to unite the isntry, the president seeking to divide us by fomenting anger and hate. Stonewalling immigrants does nothing to stop the virus. And it may prolong this pandemic. And he does not realize that immigrants are frontline workers, who are responding to this pandemic in many ways nationally, 2. 8 million healthcare workers are immigrants. State, one in three healthcare workers, 400,000 are foreignborn. Does not even take into account the millions of immigrants who are working to stock stores, deliver food, and provide other essential services. What about the farmers . What about those who are working in those farms . President to demonize this community in the middle of this pandemic is not only irresponsible, its outrageous. Congresswoman velasquez, we thank you for your time. Lets get back to our conversation with viewers. Lester in sandy, oregon. What do you think about the action taken by the senate yesterday . Is it enough . Caller i really dont know about that. That our people i farmers, people out there on the streets can live and work for farmers. , wegovernment in oregon keep reaching out for minority minorities. To me, we are all equal. We need jobs, but we need to put those people back in place. But i agree that the Small Businesses need to be responsible for taking this money and investing into their business and that we need to be a team for Small Businesses. We need to help those Small Businesses. They are feeding us, serving us as people of the United States of america. Also, i want to mention we do not to give any more aid to other countries. We need to give money to our own people. My father was a hero of the United States of america. He fought for this country. There were many plagues many, many years ago that we had to keep from each other. And we need to be that way today because this plague we have in the United States right now, we dont have a gun to protect the country. We need to protect our country by keeping each other away from each and we need to help each other. That is the way i feel about it. Host ok. Amber in morristown, new jersey. What is your business . Caller it is my husbands business and i work for him. It is an entertainment business where he hires he is a labor broker for outdoor concerts, summer concerts, and right now those concerts are not happening because of the covid19. For the Small Business loan and they were told the money was gone in a couple days. I am very happy that they passed a new loan. Hopefully, they will be able to secure i mean, pass a new bill. Hopefully my husbands company will be able to secure Small Business loan. We are also landlords and, understanding that our tenants, some work in the hospital field, one is a postal worker, we figured out what our operating costs were and lowered our rents so that they only pay what our operating costs are. Workede if americans together and understood where each were coming from, we could get out of this. Rand paul and any other politician who seeks to open up public venues without having any path toclear, concise keeping people safe is irresponsible. I do not understand where they think the economy will grow if people continue to get sick and this pandemic grows. I have not heard anything from the white house. I think they are irresponsible. And at some points a literate when it comes to knowing at some point illiterate when it comes to knowing what the American People want. Host how long has it been since you first try to logon . How did it work . My husband did it. I am not sure how it worked, what he did. I am assuming that is the way he did it. It came back that there was no more money. It was gone after a couple days. Host there were reports that there was no more money because large corporations access to it. Companieshe largest taking payroll loans meant for Small Businesses. Take a look at that while we hear from a Small Business owner , ian, in brooklyn, new york. Hi, ian. Good morning, representative velasquez host she is not on the line, but go ahead. Ofler my business is kind i work for a performing Arts Organization in new york. I think it is going to be a long time before we have an audience again. I am actually a covid19 survivor. My wife had to take care of me. She is in many risk groups. Luckily she is negative for covid. But i think we need to talk about the federal response here. , which has been so lacking. I know at least 10 people in new york were never tested and who definitely had covid. That the president is the leader, the bux talks with him, but he refuses to take responsibility. Democrats should call for him to resign because we are left devastated. To fema,ord is sent not one word of help. He continues to attack his political rivals, to cover his own behind. People are suffering. People are not coming back to new york anytime soon, just like after 9 11, and we are here to pick up the pieces. Trump is a disgrace and he needs to step down. You know how you contracted covid19 . Nobody knows here because we all take the subway. There are places where you can easily get the virus. We were not told to masks, gloves. There was note he basically said it was a hoax and it would go away. A lot of people believed him and now look at the situation. We have more covid cases in the United States than anywhere else in the world and our economy is devastated and he says he has done a perfect job. He has no bishop for the future of this country. Vision for the future of this country. He has no concept of what to do next and needs to step down. This is going to define his presidency, just like 9 11 with bush and he handed it off to his Vice President. We will go to another caller. What is your business . Im a landlordler and i also prepare taxes. The lady who called who was a ifdlord said she if said they gave everyone 1 million it would be the same, but her math is incorrect. So math to consider there are 320 Million People. If you multiply by that 1000, that is 320 billion. If you go 10 times more, that would be 3. 2 trillion. That means we could give everybody in the United States 10,000. All we really need is a mechanism to determine who was working and who is not working, which does not seem to be working too well and the State Governments in the State Governments. If you determine who is working, you could pay the people who are not working and maybe not even 10,000 right off, but may 4000, 5,000 per month until this is over. That businesses would not have to worry about keeping them on payroll. They are making him making it too complicated. Veryry rep resemblance of the bailout in 2008. The landlord did mention that they are giving a lot of this money to these businesses again. Back then, they did the same thing. They gave it all to the banks, not to the people who owed the banks. So the new york State Government here, if you try to imply apply for unemployment, good luck, you cannot get through. If youe stimulus check, are paying on your taxes, you are not getting a refund into your bank, you cannot even put your information into that on a federal government website. They could have done everything a little bit simpler and all maybe for less money if they determine who was working. Host understood. Lets listen to the secretary of the treasury, Steve Mnuchin, yesterday talking about the extension of this loan program for Small Businesses. We have had tremendous support for the ppp. This gives us another 310 billion for the ppp. We look forward to the house passing this tomorrow and being up and running quickly after that. This also gives us 50 billion for disaster loans that will allow the sba to make 300 billion of disaster loans offer Small Businesses all for Small Businesses. It allows us more money for hospitals and an unprecedented amount of money for testing. Hospitals,understand not only the hospitals that have been impacted, but more importantly many hospitals that have been shut down, in making sure the doctors and nurses get money. Let me make one more comment on the program. We have over one Million Companies have received this with less than 10 workers. So there is very broad participation in really Small Business. I will comment that there have been some big businesses that have taken these loans. I was pleased to see that shake shack returned the money. We will be putting out some faqs. There is a certification people are making. The intent of this was for businesses that needed the money. The intent of this money was not for big Public Companies that have access to capital. Host Steve Mnuchin yesterday. And Alan Rappaport with the New York Times tweeting that the secretary just told fox news that he hopes most of the economy will be reopened by the end of the summer. Edna in illinois. It is your turn to tell us what you think of the actions washington has taken, including their move to approve money for Small Businesses, hospitals, and testing. Go ahead. Caller hello. I am edna. I am 86 years old. I am inquiring about the stimulus check. I sure could use it and i dont because my get it Social Security check goes directly to my bank, and my bank said it should. But i have not got a check. And other people is getting s. Eres their host you have friends that are getting theirs . Caller yes. My best friend. Besides her has got theirs too. Like i said, i am 86 and i dont really know who to call. But i finally got a hold of you. I am watching that show on television that goes all the time about this. Host well thank you for calling in, edna. Our producer found this story on aarp. Org. Social security recipients to get stimulus payments without filing tax returns. Ofbe it is a question contacting the irs. The department of treasury announced on april 1 that Social Security recipients would not have to file to receive stimulus checks. The irs says it will use the information and benefits statements for Social Security recipients and Railroad Retirees 1200 stimulus payments for those who did not file tax returns. Maryland idgely, in ridgely, maryland. Caller good morning. I am a commercial fisherman by trade. Has that we do is essential. We are one of the biggest Food Producers in the United States. There is one thing i would like everyone to know. Republican or democrat, it does not make a difference. We have no securities, no protections to protect our industry. We keep taking stuff on the chin. I highly believe we dont qualify for none of the money coming out, Small Business or anything. Very few people have got the 1200 check. It has been extremely hard on us to maintain. I am a single operator myself. I own a boat, work by myself, and i am a fifth generation person. All my family members. The commercial fishing industry is one of the essential ones. The farmers of this country. God bless them they get all the help they want. They get help when they dont even need help. We dont get anything. It has gotten ridiculous. We want to be protected just like the farmers for disasters or whatever else. Have you contacted the sba for a disaster loan . Caller we dont qualify. Most of us just dont qualify is what they tell us. I dont understand why, but you can get your hopes up. Alls we do is work hard. We try to feed everybody. Host all right. Robert in chesapeake, virginia. What is your business . Caller restaurants and bars. Here is how to keep all businesses that have to close due to federal, state, or local mandates. They will not be liable to pay any federal, state, or local taxes and utilities. Andoutstanding loans liabilities associated with these businesses will be frozen in place or become the responsibility of the appropriate government jurisdiction issuing the lockdown mandate. What this will do is allow these Business Owners to lock their doors, walkout, and not go bankrupt. Liabilitiesd their too, especially, the state, taxes, and all of the other associated. The employees of these businesses, which already 300 in this business have been put on unemployment, which is the normal operating procedure. Tos way, you do not need throw tons and tons of money all over the country. It is not going where it is needed. It is not protecting Small Business. Host got it, robert. We will go to sarah in virginia. What are your thoughts . Caller good morning, greta. I love cspan. It is where i get the most information. I love coverage of the floor. I think that more people actually need to watch that. See what our policymakers are really saying. I am a senior caretaker for my inher, so i have been quarantine for quite some time. She is in the highrisk. I am looking at this and a whole different aspect in a whole different aspect. I get paid medicaid wages to take care of my mother. Nine dollars and . 40 an hour. Realistically, my pay has not changed at all through this, but our lifestyle has changed. Everything that we have enjoyed in life has changed. Terribly,y is hurting but our morals, enthusiasm of getting out into life is going away. I see it more in our senior community. They are afraid. The more Media Coverage on this, the more afraid they are to get back out there. For seniors, that is a crippling thing. I struggle daily to try to make sure that my mother is socially active, but she is out there. That is good for her mental health. I think that it some point we need to draw that line between the financial burden that we put on this country and the mental burden we have put on all of our citizens. Host all right. We will move on to dan who is in lansing, michigan. What is your business . Caller i have a retail clothing store. Host and how are you doing . Caller i had to reopen even though we still have an order. I had to reopen because ill be darned if i will let the government bankrupt me. Customers . O you have we are getting a few customers. We are taking all the precautions. All the wipes and everything is available if they want them. Everything is good. It is a big building so we do not have to have a lot of people in their. I would have liked to stay closed during this, but we are not allowed to have assistance because it is a Sole Proprietorship. I do not have employees. Therefore i am not eligible for this. Host the chair of the Small Business Committee Said that you are eligible for a disaster loan under the Small Business administration. Alone if i couldnt see if i cannot pay alone a loan before this happened, how could i now . No are you breaking the are you breaking the law . Aller technically, no isil technically, no. Ihospital gowns and and gowns. Uniforms half of this country is working on nonessentials. Host got it. Howard in North Carolina. What do you do for a living . I make hand baskets. Colorful flowerpot baskets. Bouquetske headstones, for gravesites. Beautiful. Orable, i was just in the process of cranking up this year as a matter of fact. Thatow i can do none of because they halted. I dont have problems with that god has my back and made it possible that i can sustain. I just have to have patience. God has a way of letting the course of this virus dictate what we should do, but i am not hurting as bad because i know the situation. All i have to do is rely upon and hentinue to do will continue to do what he has always done for me. But i was cranking up this. Year i have my lovable hanging baskets. They come with led lights. You can add your beautiful plants, whatever you desire. Host ok, howard. Roger, what do you think about what is happening here . Caller good morning, america. Is point i would like to say are the Small Businesses going to get this round of money . Years,refused, for many patronize food establishments traded on the new york stock exchange. I see that they are getting all the money. I would the next point i would like to make is that i am on Social Security. I am going to be 66 this year. And yeah i could use the money to make some repairs. The next thing i would like to say is our governor is doing a spectacular job. Lansing to the Governors Office i got a recording. That was great. I left my message. I tried calling the white house. Their telephone number is not being used right now and directed me to a website, which conscious so ieb cannot do too much there. But trump does not want to see the truth. The man is a maniac. Host we will leave it there. Larry inlinois illinois. Just call, lady who i agree with her totally. I have not got my czechia and i am 100 below Poverty Level. Host maybe this will help. If you can, go to the website irs. Goveip. Maybe that will help. But go ahead. Caller again, i am 100 below Poverty Level and i cannot afford to pay the internet feet let alone have a computer. Havethe gentleman said, i tried calling people and they say they are all shut down because of the coronavirus. But i voted for trump and i dont like what he is doing with his hourlong, hour and a half long speeches for himself, but then again, if he could, i wish he would give up his leadership of the coronavirus and handed over to nancy pelosi. Their government is all stupid. None of the doctors and scientists know what they are doing if they work for the president. Lets see if we can get the democrats to take it over because they will have an answer for this right away and we will all be cured and happy. Thank you for listening. Host heres a text from doug. A rest since to ultimately paying. Bob, you are in maryland. Have you tried to get money from this program . Caller hey, greta. How are you . Host good morning. Caller we are in the midst of applying. Mike, is towards the gentleman my comment is towards the gentleman back in new york. Im curious what he would want the president to do other than sending, you know, a hospital buildingg hospitals for new york, sending been the leaders sending ventilators, ppe, the army, etc. You know, what more could the man do for the state to assist it, when new york sat there without any preparation . I mean, what can he do . So i am curious as to the gentlemans comment. Host ok. John, you are in pennsylvania. What do you do . Caller good morning. I run Fishing Charters in the erie. In erie. Right now we are shut down and i cannot take any trips for my customers. We are great people and we fish for a living. March, i went to the Small Business disaster loan ,ssociation of application applied, was almost 90 through it, and it was pulled down. They put a new program up. I applied. It iss not a give out a disaster loan. Host what is the Interest Rate . Caller 3. 75 . I do not think you have to start paying back until december. I applied for that and they said you can apply for an Economic Injury in advance up to 10,000. I have not heard anything back. I do not know what is going on. And as a Small Business owner, you get frustrated. The big businesses you hear are getting all the money. All you want is enough to get by so that whenever they let us go back to work we just, you know, it is frustrating because you do not hear anything back. You have a loan application number, but that is not good because you call the line and they do not have any information. They say, we will tell you when you have your loan into her three weeks. Now you dont have anything. I just want enough to get the loans. Pay and i am not looking for a handout. Im looking for assistance. Right now, there is no assistance. I do not feel confident that im going to get through this i feel like i am a small, Sole Proprietorship business. I have had my business for 34 years. I do not want to see it go away because of the virus, but i do not want to pie might want to put myself in jeopardy or my customers in jeopardy. It is not fair to be fishing right now. I do not want to pass it on to anybody or have them pass it on to me. But this Disaster Loan Program should be going to Small Businesses like me and others around me who are in the same bow and have not heard anything back. I do not have any confidence that we are going to receive anymore even with the new program. I am frustrated because i feel like the big businesses are going to siphon off again. And Small Businesses, the lifeblood of our economy, are going to be hurt. Host michael in st. Petersburg, florida. Tell us what you do. Caller i own a sports bar and a comedy club on the beach. We have been shut down since march 17. I dont understand why the Insurance Companies are not being challenged to come up with the money that we paid in already for lost wages and stuff. Where itnt know stands with that. They all seem to be blaming the government, blaming the virus itself. Host what do you want to see done . Caller how come the Insurance Companies that we paid in cannot give us money . For a gasshut down leak, it will be fine. But because we got shut down by the government, they say they are not liable. Do you thinkit Congress Needs to step in . Why should we not have any repercussions on Insurance Companies because they are going to blame the government hope they bail us out . I am confused on it. I will be 51 and i have never had a claim in my life until now. Host mike in North Carolina. Hello. Caller me and my wife are independent. We sell antiques on ebay. We have been doing it for like 20 years. We have always kept a little bit of money back just in case of emergencies. Our governor has got everything shut down. Markets, sales at flea thrift shops, which are all closed down. But i guess we are lucky and not anything. Apply for we are not going to apply. Everybody needs to know that this thing came from china. If nancy pelosi became president , we would all be under the socialist flag. Host we will leave it there. Theing us this morning is republican governor of north dakota to talk about what is happening in his state. First, governor, if you could tell us how many cases you have, but it is like, and what kind of economic hit your state is taking. Good morning. In north dakota, we had the advantage of the virus are arriving to the midwest later. We had the chance to learn from the rest of the world in the coasts. We have a low rate of infection and we are among the top states in terms of testing. We have never taken out more than 1 of our available hospital capacity. So we are in great shape relative to the virus. The real impact has been on the economy. And not because we closed it down. We kept all of energy, all of agriculture, all of health care, and all of education we move to distance work learning. The majority of the economy has been open, but the drop in demand over both oil prices and what we are seeing with the prices asis agate g prices is economically tough. We need to make sure we can rescue our economy. Host i will remind viewers about the importance of shale gas in your state and how are they being impacted right now with the demand not as high . Guest north dakota is fortunate to have resources that play an Important Role in america moving towards Energy Independence and energy dominance. The u. S. Is the Worlds Largest oil producer in the world. We are a wind producer as well. , it is overand drop 30 . North dakota is the second largest oilproducing state in the nation, second behind testing. On a normal day, we would produce about 1. 5 of the nation the worlds oil. But right now, we have already seen about a third of our wells shut in because of the drop in oil prices, the historic collapse we are seeing. That is what really drove up our unemployment numbers in our state, the collapse of the oil industry. Senate passedthe more money for Small Businesses, hospitals, and testing, but there is not money there for states. Are you able to respond financially or do you need the federal government to step in . If they do, and you need that money, how would you spend it . We are fortunate in north dakota because we have a fiscally conservative approach. A percentage of our general fund, we have one of the largest stabilization funds in the country. It represents 50 of our general fund 15 of our general fund. We are in pretty good shape. We are the only state that has a state owned bank and there is wellcapitalized and has the ability to step in. It is already doing some stuff for agriculture. We are looking at things we might be able to do to support energy. I would say relative to other states, north dakota is in about as good a shape it could be in. Only you talked about using 1 of hospital capacity. Do you attribute that to the testing that you did early on . You watched a mobile app launched a mobile app. Can you talk about that . Guest we did act quickly when we saw the virus was coming. Is of the things we know widespread testing. Testing needs to be linked with Contact Tracing. When we find a positive, we have a rapidresponse team where we can go in. Whether that is any kind of organization, manufacturing, nursing home, we can go in with a rapidresponse team do drivethrough testing and test a significant number of people and begin thorough Contact Tracing of all the context they have had. Learned we have every governor and the public is learning what Contact Tracing is. It was largely done at small scale, a manual process. There is an opportunity to bring clout mobilerough databases that allows us to track thousands of people and do that efficiently with distributed teams across the state doing localized Contact Tracing. We also use technology. Virtually every citizen has a super commuter dish computer in their pocket called a smartphone. In and be opt completely anonymous. They do not have to enter in any personal information whatsoever. Nothing that would identify them. Digit,gns them a 36 anonymous, random id number. The information can be used to enable enhanced tracking in the sense that lets say next september we are wide open and somebody working at a big box retailer can check out check out comes a positive. We can send out a push alert to anybody whose phone had big have been in that retailer and said eig say a positive case has appeared in the location you have been in in the last three or four days. Are you sharing this information with the federal government . The anonymous data is kept confidentially. The federal government does not have access to it. It is not even being held by our own health department. We designed this around being nymous because we know certainly, to guard their privacy. An individual might have a dozen apps on their phone already tracking their location, but when it comes to this we want to make sure we are maintaining privacy. Certainly using mobile technology is one of their tools and it is something we are going to have to have in our country if we went to save lives and livelihoods. Host what are the benefits you are hoping to get from using this app . Guest one of them we know from Contact Tracing, if someone tests positive, we call them, we say, who have you been in contact with . Depending on if they have a job with a lot of movement or contact or if they work in a retail environments, they would not have any idea all the people they would have been in close contact with in the last four days. The point of the interview is to try to identify where there might have been these transmissible moments. Do targeted isolation and quarantine, we can contain the spread, as opposed to asking everybody to practice all the physical distancing. This will also, in the short term if somebody gets a call from a contact tracer, they will ask if you are using the care 19 app. If they say yes, they will say would you be willing to check your data in share with us your potential transmission moments you have been in. That will give us a more robust ability to do great Contact Tracing right out of the chute right now. Technologyid this come about . Career in software and technology and some of my former coworkers still a part of microsoft today working in north saida, they offered, they we would like to help anyway we can, have a brainstorm session, talking about things like the we may beatabases able to do. One of those, a technical fellow, distinguished engineer for microsoft, who i have known app30 years, developed an minnesota has have a proud history of winning eight of the ofine tubing chips last nine championships having known we were brainstorming, is there any possibility the biden tracker code you developed over the years could be a base code for an application that would help people opt in anonymously to facilitate Contact Tracing. The idea came from our first conversation. Within weeks, the apple version was released. Over 20,000 people have downloaded that. Android became available on the Google Play Store yesterday. That is the interesting origin. Host how many people using . Guest 20,000 as of yesterday, downloaded. Thousands every day. South dakota is officially we knowit as well and conversations are happening and a half dozen other states. We are taking a look at it. Burgum, wenor doug appreciate your time. Guest thank you. Host thank you all for watching and calling in. We will see you back here tomorrow morning, 7 00 a. M. , eastern time. [captions Copyright National cable satellite corp. 2020] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. Visit ncicap. Org] announcer cspan has aroundtheclock coverage of federal response to the coronavirus pandemic and it is all available on demand at coronavirus,rg watch white house briefings, updates from governments and officials, track the spread around the world with interactive maps. Watch ondemand any time unfiltered at www. Cspan. Org coronavirus. 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