Transcripts For CSPAN Washington Journal 03272020 20240713

Coming up, more on the coronavirus outbreak on the u. S. Response with dr. William schaffner from Vanderbilt University Medical Center and we will get your reaction by phone, facebook and twitter. Washington journal is next. Guest republicans 2027488001 independents 2027488002. The conversation on twitter cspan wj or facebook. Com cspan. Here speak House Speaker nancy yesterday sounding confident that the house would vote. I dont think well get consent. Theres some other people who that. Bject to were not worried about that. Our members want to come back in debate and wethe expect to have a voice vote on it. Preparedt, well be for whatever it is. One way or another, with losing no time, we will be passing the bill tomorrow. Thank you. Host speaker of the house yesterday. David when they gaveling in at next . M. , what happens guest they will pass this as quickly as they can. The question is whether or not, is going to have force rollvoice and call voice. Theres parameters in place to roll call vote. I think the question is, whether going to bes necessary. I talked to couple people itsrday that are hoping not necessary but people are prepared. Host what is the difference between unanimous consent and a voice vote . Consent is aous member asking unanimous consent nobody objects the chair accepts it and a passed for a resolution agreed to by bodymous consent of the without a vote. This is a very typical procedure in the senate where almost nothing happens. Where unanimous consent is a powerful tool use. Everything requires consent or then a vote to create the consent. In the house, its not used as often but its available. Is kind of just like it sounds where a chair ask and you hear one crowd yell aye yell nay. Even if the chair tries to say the yeas have it or nays have it, somebody objects and they and secondoice vote it. I think im getting this right. Roll call vote. I think i have this correct. The roll callth vote. Most votes in the house and senate are roll call votes by design. As i said, you see unanimous more often,est is more in the senate. They dontecause want 400 members in the house voting. There are a number of members countrye around the because of selfquarantine and other reasons. Not going to have full crowd. There are some, especially this is a big measure, 2. 4 trillion what it runs out to with a number of really good components to it. They will say, theres no way the house should pass anything like this even in needs under conditions without people vote. A object . O do we know may guest there are couple of that mightthe right object. Amash is an independent from michigan. Generally pretty libertarian. He mightat him, object. Theres some concern on the left, you wonder if certain alexandriaether its ocasiocortez. Thomas massie is in town. He drove here from kentucky to here to be in position to matter. On this if thats who were watching with the speaker of the house, she mentioned in the clip you played, theyre going to pass this thing. Votes. Ve the if they have the vote, they record vote, far less than 435 members. Its going to pass. Itself is now in jeopardy. Its just a matter of they have vote. E a recorded one member telling me yesterday, theyif its a voice vote, can make public and congressional record where they stood. Have to do a roll call vote, when would that vote take place . Guest that, i do not know yet. Of it is going to be how when they works and bring everybody in. Theyre going to try to get this thing done by themiddle of the day at least. So everybody can get out of as possibles soon and participate in or socialplace distancing as soon as possible. For lot of these members are from hot spots in washington itself, bit of a hot spot. A desire not to have members milling about in washington, or hanging around u. S. Capitol building any longer than necessary. Host David Drucker senior corporate of washington examiner, thank you. Tweets this out. Today in sanity and congress, some house members dont know possibly 218 plus from around the country flying on back to d. C. Just in case one member tries to block stimulusf the senate bill tomorrow. We have been asked here at the majority leader to show alls office of you oon our network the viewpoints of members who will able to make it back. You might have noticed readal statement by mr. Hoyer in the morning, toing they were trying figure out how member who are at home, whether they are quarantined or cant take the risk to come back, how theyll viewpointsget their out remotely. They came to us here at cspan. Majority leader asked if we air these three minute speeches. Yes. Id weve reached out to the house to askn the the same of them that we would air their videos here. We will do so beginning on marc. To read more, we put out a statement on twitter. Ill show it to you. Can follow us cspan to read more. Heard David Drucker mention thomas massey, a republican from kentucky, he sent out this tweet saying, the senate did some voodoo just like with obamacare, took a house bill and stripped every word. The house is just as responsible killing the origination clause at senate. Houses job to reject the process. He sent out this tweet, 2 trillion, he put in parenthesis, plus 4 trillion the fed and treasury. Thats a 6 trillion stimulus. By 650 million citizens, thats 17,000 per person. He said 68,000 per family new dollarl debt in devaluation in this stimulus. Deal. Good thats why hes planning to object to voice vote and demand roll call vote. At the response from dean phillips. A democrat from minnesota. To his colleague, dear Thomas Massie if you intend pass passage of the coronavirus relief, please your 428 colleagues in money to counter your principles but terribly stunt. Ed if you determined to let teresa, a know to do,. Epublican, good morning go ahead. What do you think the house do . Ld caller i think the house should washington and do a recorded vote. You cannot pass this 2. 2 trillion boondoggle that no american knows whats in it. Dont know whats in it. You saw Lindsey Graham come out senate vote imote forked, theres 600 unemployment payments. Nobody knows whats in it. Trash. It needs to be dissolved and again. Only people should be in this bill help for hospitals, first the americand people. They cant break every constitutional wall and do a roll call vote. Senatorslready got 218 on their way back to washington, bring them all back. Fear thesay, we coronavirus and were shelterinplace, im working line to in the front ies. People get grocer they are laid up in their the bahamas. Host greg in farmington, democratic caller, what do you think . Supply my concern is the chain is a disaster. Get every single american working on the supply chain. The supply chain, these poor havingin the hospitals to use masks for three days. Thats ridiculous. Garbage bags dressed in garbage bags because they dont have the proper equipment. Devices in the hospitals rather proper supply chain items. Ridiculous. Every single representative must bring up supply chains. Not just the other items they about. Cerned we must beat this Health Problem were involved in. Is president right now acting like a pied piper. He wants the economy. Better. People to get are you there . Get yes, were listening, better. Caller we got to get people better. Madness. The denial that the supply chain american down, every must realize the supply chain has broken down. In thesequipment hospitals. Host scott in bay city, independent, its your turn. How come like to know ms. Pelosi put all this stuff in for the Kennedy Center. Not a virus deal. All this other stuff with the voting. That she a wish list wants passed. I want pass, im 68 years old. I get to havef any of this money. Retirees andnow, Social Security people dont get no money. The we read yesterday in washington journalwall streete security, you get a check as well. Caller i appreciate that. Thats the first i heard about it. Putting too much stuff in a bill be done now and they can fix it later like they usually say. Host if they have to have a roll call vote, this is from the hill newspaper. This morning. Members are expected to be chamber ino the groups of 30, sorted ilface alphabetically. They will be required to use sanitizer, only members scheduled for debate are allowed on the floor. 9 00 a. M. Will gavel eastern time. Then they will go to two hours of debate. To mr. Hoyer from maryland, they will use all two hours. Thiswill attempt to pass by voice vote. As you heard, tom massie, at and thererepublican could be a democrat. We dont know yet. Far, tom massie said publicly plans to oppose it. Hes already here in washington. Of thisto the size legislation and how it originated in the Senate Rather the house. Lets go to mark in annapolis, maryland. Republican. Morning. Ood thanks for taking my call. I got two things. In. Bring them thats their job to vote. I dont see law enforcement. I dont see medical personnel, i dont see them getting a day off will. To come in and vote. I agree with representative massie. Have originated in the house. Nancy pelosi comes in and drops wish list and upsets the apple cart. Secondly, just to the size of this. Money. T have this our nationalandered treasure on things that government had no business funding. On emergencies like this they stepping up and help recovery of the nation and assisting the states. Borrowing more on the National Credit card. My children and and greatren grandchildren for bankrupting them. Host congressman from minnesota, tweets, residents i travel to d. C. Yesterday. I will be on capitol hill and ready to vote in the morning. Well have a quorum present and get the bill passed noon. Congressman bill raucous rites, to d. C. To pass the stimulus package. King republican in new york, headed to washington to vote on pandemic legislation because of one member of refusing to allow emergency action, entire togress must be called back vote. Risk of infection, risk of legislation being delayed, disgraceful. Irresponsible. Samantha in washington d. C. , democratic caller. Caller good morning. Im calling because i have three issues. All, the issue that i is youaling with cspan have been airing constantly at a time when you should have been airing what goes on in terms of congress on both the channels. The house thats insult to we americans. Host the house hasnt been in. We have been airing a variety of programming. Acrossent briefings from the country, pentagon briefings. Were showing americans the between our country and other countries. You worldn all of Health Organizations briefings. Boris johnsons briefings as well, canadian trudeau. Ster justin were showing how different leaders around the world are responding. In the bronx, republican. Caller good morning. Dont let some of the people they call in, complaining about thats not the issue. Ar me, let me say this, as new yorker, the only thing i needsevery individual some kind of hope. To give usresident hope. In 1946, jamaica hospital queens, his father was born in 1905 in new york. He keep on saying, my father is from germany. Is his grandfather. Yorker. W to give us a hope, we going dodo, im going to everything i can. He communicate. Theres a hope for me. Giving up. He made me cry for three and a half years. Is his chance. York,hotel he has in new washington, las vegas, one of he can put it temporary hospital for those people who got the virus, or those people who need to be in. Ked bad ll make his [indiscernible] up. Ould lift him host heard you there. This is the president yesterday House Task Force briefing talking about how the country needs to get back to work. We will achieve victory and quickly return to the path of exceptional health, prosperity for all citizens. We have to get back to work. Work. Ople want to they want to go back. They have to go back. Going to be talking about dates. Well be talking with lot of professionals. This is a country that was built on getting it done. People want to go back to work. Im hearing it loud and clear from everybody. Well see what happens. Lot moree a information early next week and back. Be reporting that i want to leave it with you. We have to go back. This is the United States of america. They dont want to sit around and wait and theyll be practicing. Lot of people misinterpret when you say go back, theyre going to be practicing as much as you can social distancing and washing hands and not shaking hands. They have to go back to work. Country has to go back. That. Untry is based on i think its going to happen pretty quickly. I think its going to happen quickly. Lot of progress is made. We got to go back work. Take sections of our country. We may take large sections of country that arent so seriously affected. The processart pretty soon. Well be talking to you more week. That next host another point that we can talk about today on the show as president there calling for people to get back work. Do you agree, disagree. About this house vote today. 9 00 a. M. Eastern time when they cspan. El in on you can watch it all unfold. They will begin with two hours thise and attempt to pass 2. 2 trillion economic aid package. As we said, members of the theirss starting to make way back to washington. Democrat in nevada showing here a picture of the las vegas airport. Im boarding a flight to manyngton d. C. Because so families in Southern Nevada are struggling in uncertain times. Tomorrow ill vote to give them relief. Thank you to the flight crew, airport staff for all you do. Walker, republican north carolina. Sharing little joy for her only passenger to d. C. Were practicing social social skills. Ng thank you. This morning were learning johnson the prime minster of the u. K. Over the last 24 have developed mild symptoms and tested positive for coronavirus. Selfisolating. Thell continue to leave government response as we fight this virus. Call. O bob in massachusetts. Independent. Caller good morning. I got a few things here i like to say that two 2. 2 trillion. It will get spent needs. Things it the math 17,000 each person. That will be over 6 trillion. Somebody needs to learn how to do math. The thing that really depresses all of this crap is that york, the in new mayor and their governor are to run all over florida to infect people. I believe they trying to get that infection running around in our oldest population in florida. Have a nice day. Host we learned if you are coming from new york and landing in it state of florida, florida officials, have bus terminals at are coming from new york, are there to tell you tot youre going to have selfquarantine for 14 days. From peoplemap magazine. This is the stayathome orders the United States. Lets take a look at that as we california. In democratic caller. Morning. Caller good morning and good morning to the country and thank for cspan. Good morning greta. Good. K the money is i think its a great idea. Nationalhis is a emergency obviously, we havent seen this. Old. 5 years i never experienced it. Goodnk people are getting advice from their grand dads, grandmothers and people that been around because everyone has purchased things. Noticed, theyve purchased things about a week out. Now theres no one on the streets. No one in the stores. Its settled down. Some moret merchandise because people are staying home as you seen in new the country. Nd deaths isrcentage of what really alarms me. Were looking at 300 deaths a states. He united thats going to become very serious. Home, people are staying which is great. Home prevents contamination and what not. Urgentportantly, i think curbly, were going to run out of food. And thingsl close will become desperate for food. I fear that within the next 30 or so, we might have orsibly mandatory curfews martial law where the National Guard might be dispensing food. Host jerome, yesterday we here in the deaths United States. Thele like scott gottlieb, former fda commissioner worried about situations in new orleans, dallas, atlanta, miami, detroit, chicago, philadelphia and others. Outside, no province hubei ever had more than 1500 cases. States 11 states hit that total. Likely to beis national in scope. This situation here in the states, getting worse. Yesterday we learned that 3. 3 million americans lost their for last week and filed unemployment claims. New york times business bytion breaks it down, state state. Bill in harrisburg, independent. Caller good morning. Youa i wanted to compliment on your interview with mr. Cochran the other way with theect to phase three of stimulus package. Your questions were really insightful. Illuminating. Re i also wanted to put it out that to america dr. Anthony fauci was one of the with respectperts to research and development on a aids. Or he is the man to listen to. Caller what he said about food shortages, as logisticsos been in over a decade, i want america to calm down. Though youre seeing shortages at the store and our Trucking Industry is under stress now, they will get it through. Stay at home. That benefits everyone. Absolutelyat you need to have until this thing passes. Host okay. That to you, to that caller that youre talking about about it,ied everybody is about it. Tonight here on washington journal, shelly miller, um supply food u. S. Supply chain, will be with us to the supply chain. If you have questions, you can to what thelisten expert have to say about the food supply chain. Tell you about the checks that are going out to thiscans under 2. 2 trillion economic aid package. This is from the hill news newspaper. They put together question and answer. Are immigrants eligible to receive the checks . They are if they have a Social Security number. Green card holders qualify for work eligible Social Security numbers. Are College Students eligible for checks . If College Students are at least a years old and claimed as dependent on their parents return and their family will not any payment amount for them. Orlege student who files his her own return, claimed not a dependent, would qualify. This is another question. Made 85,000 last year, how much will i get . Filer, thee tax rebate amount reduces by 5 for of income over 75,000dollar. Single person with no children adjusted gross income 85,000 in 2019 and filed 2019 tax return would receive 700. The phase out of the credit is peoples adjusted gross income. Which does not include income accounts such as 401k. How can people who moved get checks . If you received your refund in 2019, the i. R. S. Has to send a note to taxpayer last within 15 days of distributing a payment. Int if i had a child born 2020. People have had children 2020 would receive payments but dont account new children. Those are just some of the questions and answers you can you go to the hill. Com this morning on these onetime, 1200 checks per adult. Makingr child for those up to 75,000. Monique in washington d. C. , caller. Lets move on to nikki. Charleston, west virginia. Republican caller. Morning. Ood i have a little bit of im glad the stimulus went through the senate. I hope the house doesnt play through. Gets it theres a lotgs, inthere that should not be there. One of the things was we have 600 or whatever it was over above, i know one of the that waitresses and do not makey minimum wage. Tips. Ont claim all their thats something that everybody ever been in the restaurant knows. S theyre actually getting more their unemployment. I dont know how to explain it. Of these people are getting unemployment. Theyre not getting it on their tips because they didnt claim them. I say 85 of them that are waiters, that have children and are working and not theyve their tips, also been eligible for hud. Theyve been eligible for food stamps. I dont regret anybody getting money. To held the bill up over money the Kennedy Center, that there should not have been anything in that bill except do with the coronavirus. Host did you know that the federal entity. Who said yesterday, that it employees. Re federal they cant pay the employees now, there are no production. Caller its the Kennedy Center employees not getting unemployment . Host you think they should of income the loss from no production . Facility,the etcetera . Caller well, bloomberg just over 700 million to be president. Them. Dnt he donate it to they could have kept it up for a year. Bill. Nonsense in that host working after the coronavirus, they write this. Solution democratic which republicans agreed to as price tag of the bill is to give all laid off workers a 600 benefit increase on top of their normal Unemployment Compensation for up to four months. Leasts will now make at 15 an hour assuming 40 hour as 35 annd as much hour in places like not working. For in tallahassee, florida, independent. Caller good morning. I have big issues with it as far this bill. I rather go hungry than let this bill go through. Research. F so much pork. Bys like 700 billion all itself. Thats just pork. Its so far come to light. Just assume everybody and take this vote. I speak for other americans that feel the same way. I have no problem with small big business and workers getting any money. Absolute. All the First Responders. Other than that, anything. R dime for i dont think anybody that is on welfare, that is not working of raise. Any kind what that lady was say being the stuff, i dont agree with that, if youre not counting your tips, youre not going bythem and its your salary, theyre going to get less because they put less in. Im all for helping them. I got no problem with that. Bigger problem with 2. 2 trillion and then this is one. Phase phase one should be it . Host this is phase three. Passed two other bills before this. Thinking about more Cash Payments to americans according to the speaker. Caller i dont have problem giving loans to big business or Small Business. Somebody to have work for, it doesnt matter. Host james in New York Times writes that this mass unemployment number that we saw our choice. S they argue this, even after it became clear that the Trump Administration fail to prepare for the pandemic, policymakers still could have chosen to by paying Employment Companies to keep workers on the job during the period of lockdown. A number of European Countries they write after similarly failing to control the spread of the virus and thus being forced lock down large part of their chosen to protect jobs. They paid companies to keep their employees on the books. In take a look at what is this coronavirus aid package as we go to the next call. In sierra vista, arizona. Democratic caller. Numbers. Ok at the go ahead. Caller good morning. Need a covid19 victory pac. Thats an example when you go to a school or somebody doing a pay 20 fornd you fundraising coupon book and you get 200 worth of savings. About,r country is services and goods. Could get al prepaid card that has Services Goods available. An Airline Flight and instead giving airline you could get a credit where you can say if the going to need money, if they want you to fly, okay, were going to give that and the airlines is going to give them a discount. A 3000 ticket to fly first class to hawaii and guess get mym not going to money refunded. Ityre going to keep rolling over. Fly if i dont want to anymore . Why cant, like a prepaid card, they put three to four month an individuals card already allocated to them but each payonly draw it period. Thats better than waiting for a can sende government out a prepaid card, the i. R. S. Knows how much each person makes upon their annual salary. Now you got a guaranteed four to six months of worth of salary that you know you will get and you start spending that next card gets tohat you and you would pay it back over two years. The military does that when you move, you get advance two months worth of salary. Hoursy it back over 24 zero percent interest. Host okay. Atse floor debate kicks off 9 00 a. M. On coronavirus bill. Then voice votes set for eastern time. You can watch that here on cspan. Our firstbody object, glimpse how house members voting 30. Tagger groups of not all members are here but still slow process. Members to stay off of the elevators. Here on cspan beginning when we end todays washington journal when they at 9 00 a. M. Eastern time. Keep your channel here to watch it unfold. On our website cspan. Org. Listen along. If you want to do some research to debate onegin this legislation, you can find text of thee legislation if toislation you can go cspan. Org. Use control f keys to search all thatifferent aspects youve been hearing. You can find the information yourself. Cspan. Org. Jacqueline in corona, republican. Caller good morning. Theres so many different whatss i have about going on. Just listening to some of the callers. Two. Single mom of im a server. Declared are computerized. Theres no way to get around that. Number two, theres so much politicalpelosi and celebrating all her pork, wish list from i dont know how many millions that have do with with us, the people. I would rather wait another weeks than have them get it right than a lot of money billions theres no way theyre spending money counties that are for sanctuary cities. What does that have to do with. I. R. S. To help them enforce things. Money to kennedy. They dont want people who work get anyp hotels to help. If theyre going to help all these politicians, they have neverty and companies, i gotten a job from a poor person. Corporations, corporations i work for a corporation. Person. Ttle the ceos, theyre fine. Hurting. Ot its the little people. Would rather wait weeks to get the pork stripped out. Support massie and i support my president. Matter if [indiscernible] host there are language in this bill that would prohibit the president , the Vice President , members of congress, the administration, cabinet members their spouses, their moneyen from using the for corporations if they own the moneyns to use for the Distressed Companies for their president s hotel etcetera. At those hotels if they are laid off can get Unemployment Benefits. Questions and answers put together by the washington journal. How much will my unemployment be . K Unemployment Benefits vary by state. Stimulus bill will increase unemployment by 600 a week for four months. Three weeks for states to process claims. Many Unemployment Insurance seeing unprecedented volume which is delaying the process. One weektates waived waiting period to receive benefit. How long do the benefits last . Benefits varies by states with the standard time to receive benefits in many states totally 26 weeks. Some states offer 12 weeks. Will lengthenill benefits by additional 13 weeks states. Oss the hill newspaper is reporting hillary andnton, bill clinton send over 400 hospital new york staff treating coronavirus. Ohio, democratic caller. Time in our a sad country. Im listening to all these about dollars,g who gets dollars. See thee, do you refrigerator trailers putting bodies in them in new york and states . Lets get with it people. Lets worry about how many more going to die. This is crazy. I never seen anything like this. Went through the vietnam war and didnt see this. Lets wake up. Medical peopleur all over the country and take care of america. It. Get with stop worrying about the dollars and whos going to get them. Thank you. Your station. Host representative susie lee ineting, i landed washington. Ready to go vote on the cares to giving much needed relief family and Small Businesses, hospital, state and local governments and schools. In harms to all those way so we can travel if we need to. Kevin in windsor, connecticut, independent. Caller good morning. Stimulus package is a start but the money theyll get, that go to the virus crises. Right now, we got problems on the front line and hospital and first responder. We got to protect these people. Inthey go down, were trouble. Trump there, he talks about the economy, he should look at how Great America was in world war ii. Eveeverybody was together, rich, white, even the companies. Look what president carter did nuclearhad that disaster at three mile allen. That president went down to the power plant and assured people. I like to see trump go down to city and talk that way like what president carter did. What andrew look at aboutsaid yesterday 2 trillion economic aid and what it means for new york. Congressional action, in to address theon fail need. Officials all the involved. I spoke to our house delegation, senators. Our toelieve what they did, fail meet the government need. Disappointed. I find it irresponsible. Wreckless. Emotion is a luxury. We dont have the luxury at this of being emotional about what they did. When this is over, i promise you going to give them a peace of my mind. Today, thisto them is an extraordinary time in this nation and its an extraordinary for government. This was the time to put politics aside and partisanship aside. This is the time for governmental leaders to stop yourg excuses and just do job. Host andrew cuomo from in albany, briefing new york. Front page of the washington government is frustrated back up from the president on thursday. Washington state governor jay inslee pleaded with trump during the Conference Call with the to take more dramatic action to secure medical supplies for his state. Hardest hit according to four people on the call. After mr. Trump told the group that his administration was ready to be the backup for saying,n crises inslee we dont need a back up. We need a tom brady. A reference to super bowl quarterback who has been friendly with the president. Arerding to those who familiar with the call. That in the Washington Post by robertng reported. Osta well go to jim Cuyahoga Falls a republican. You so much for what youre doing with this. Just tremendous. What i would like say briefly, all, what im still mad about, the democrats, as far as long tothey took so actually approve this before it got into the house. Thats one thing im still mad at the democrats. Saynd that, i like to something about donald trump. Im very impressed with the way that donald trump has been carrying this. In addition to donald trump, im of everyone id know, people around the United People aree seen banding together. Just about 99 of the people, doing exactly what theyve been asked to do about staying at home and about not working and doing the things that people have put themselves line and going through. Im retired. My wife still works. She makes specific things and still goes to work. Thatwant to make sure people dont get this disease too. Another thing very briefly to wanted to say is, cspan has been tremendous. This last week has been, you guys are awesome. That, evenwhy i say this last weekend, you were of the q a. Jim. Thank you cnn had this headline, president hes everopular as been now according to new polls out. President seeing high Approval Rating numbers. However, npr if youre has a different take on those numbers. Trumps approval hits new high around the flag effect is small. Go to bob in denver, colorado. Caller. Ic comment is that the earlier, not the last call earlier caller from ohio, exactly right. Things that i have havent about is that we got a stimulus bill here or whatever you want to call it. Bailout bill. What were doing is were borrowing money again. Peoples time is to allow to buy loans to pay their loans. Banks need to step up. Theailed them out in financial crises. Takeve been under stress, three months moratorium on rent, credit cards, mortgages, etcetera. Forgiving payments, just postponing them to the future so that these people that do get able getent will be that money to pay for the life. Ities of host got it, bob. We told you yesterday, theres around 360 billion or so for Small Business loans. According to Washington Post, heres some questions and answers about how they will work. Where can i apply for sba loan . Er Small Business administration you can fill out the documents linked. Website and mail them in to the sba. Applicants can submit forms in at an sba Disaster Center who qualifies for business loans. Businesses in any u. S. State that have fewer than 500 payoyees and unable to their bills because of the coronavirus pandemic. How long will the loan process take . After you submit an application review your credit to verify your losses. Sba the goal is to arrive at a decision within two to three weeks. How much can i get through the loan . Small business, small oricultural cooperative private nonprofit organizations can borrow up to 2 million for injury. What will the Interest Rate be . Businesses, 3. 75 for nonprofits, 2. 75 . The Washington Post, you can go more what you need to federal Disaster Relief business loan. You can find it online on post. Com. Independent rginia, independent. Theer i believe across board, i believe the president and his team are doing really good job. Congress, you have to give little to get little. Iuple of things that really do not agree with. Dont understand how they sending people money, the somployment is going to work that some people will be making more money than what they were making. Thats an incentive not to go back to work. Point two, i dont agree with w understand how they can give the Kennedy Center the them, money they Gave National public radio, the amount of money they gave them and also, immigration and illegals. For them. I think retireesel for the that live just on their Social Security and they getting just 600. Someone have to explain that to me. Host how do you know theyre 600 . G caller i was told by a cpa. Getting 600. Host if you want to check yourself, go to our website, cspan. Org. Upper righthand corner of text of the legislation. You can search through that legislation. Rubin in philadelphia, caller. Ic caller good morning. . Ow you guys doing today i disagree with this package all together. Maybe they should have utilities,veryones cable, wifi included, instead of giving out all this money. Think the money should have gone to the First Responders and hospitals. Getting hazmat suits and cleaning up the city and the states. This is a surface virus, we be would clea outside up . Ning why we giving away so much money . Mitchs the way mcconnell and republicans are stealing money for large corporations. About the poore time when nancy pelosi trying to get bills passed through the senate, now throught to rush a bill that will give half trillion dollars to corporation. We not supposed to be going outside. Why are the cruises and airlines theyng so much money when dont need it . When jesus told him, you have to always. H you he knew that judas wanted to pocket money for himself. Julie inll go to billings montana, republican. Myler thank you for taking call. I am hesitant to support this bill. Think it needs to go through because of the provisions relating to small to individuals to our healthcare providers, all of those things. It personally offensive how much pork is in here. Ive read the bill, i read reports on the bill. Like adding so much money for the corporation of public broadcasting and the kennedy arts. Ming talking about diversity and green bills and things like that. I think we need to get to the heart of the matter which is help simply we need to get to businesses to individuals and to our Healthcare System before we Start Talking about renewable fuel. Host jane in indiana, independent. You got to turn down the television. Yourn and talk through. Hone please turn down the television. Caller thank you. I want to thank everybody and cspan for letting people have their voice. Going to need to be the senators, their congressman email them know through how to take how they feel about whats going on in this nation. We need to stick together. A as an individual, have voice but we have to have it through our senators and congressmen. So they know what we as american feel. We voted for them. Us. Lected them to speak for if they dont know how we feel, they do not how to vote as a nation. Congressmanand debbie sen out this sent out this tweet with a video making her way to washington. Lets listen. Good morning florida. Word late last night that some of my colleagues from the the aisle maybe blocking the voice vote. To fly to d. C. To pass Economic Relief package for healthcare workers and doctors of theses for all American Families that are hurting now because of the pandemic. We are there for you. Were going to be following cdc guidelines to make sure that we in a that doesnt compromise any of us. Stay safe. Host that was the congresswoman from south florida, democrat, washington forto the 9 00 a. M. Vote. In one hour here on the east coast. In. House will gavel theyre expected to spend all aside for debate on this 2 trillion aid package. We expect the vote around 11 00 a. M. Eastern time. When it all here on cspan they gavel. Well bring you live uninterrupted coverage of the house floor. Go to greg and columbus, ohio, democratic color. Good morning. Caller i just have a quick question. Affect socialto security . Are they going to get checks . Host we read that people will be getting checks as well. Caller that is all i needed to know. That byu should verify looking up the legislation. We are going to take a break. We will talk to a preventative medicine and Infectious Disease professor at vanderbilt medical to take your questions. We will write back. Follow the federal response to the coronavirus outbreak at cspan. Org coronavirus. Watch congress, white house briefings, and updates from governors. Check the spread with interactive maps. Watch ondemand, anytime, unfiltered on cspan. Org coronavirus. Book tv,eekend on saturday at 8 30 p. M. Eastern, in her book recollections of my nonexistence, and author recounts her journey to becoming a writer and feminist. Realize that why wasnt i political when i was young. You have to feel like you have something in common with other people and that you have power. I started out with neither of those things and ended up with plenty of both. Zimmerman looks at whitecollar drug exaction in her book smacked. People struggling with addictions are struggling with bleak conditions, maybe homelessness or a Mental Wellness that was untreated. They are some i would seat living under a bridge or panhandling on the subway. I was very wrong. Although it hits hard in those communities, there are plenty of people at the top of the socioeconomic ladder struggling as well. Watch book td and cspan2 this weekend. Joining us from nashville tennessee is dr. William schaffner if professor of presented medicine and Infectious Diseases at vanderbilt Medical Center. Thank you for joining us. Guest thank you for having me. Host we have 82,000 cases. What do you make of that i what are your concerns with that number . Guest my concern is that it is going to grow. We have not completely defined how widespread this virus is in the United States and how intensely it is just a beach it in different parts of the country. We need to do a lot more testing, but the next several weeks will see a surge of cases coming into hospitals. It may not get as bad as new york but we are already seeing in nashvilleng in and expect more. Is like ine what it hospitals when you see these patients describe what it is like in hospitals when you see these patients. What is it like . Guest if you get an infection with the lungs, means you have difficulty breathing. It is an extraordinary uncomfortable illness, because it makes you extremely anxious and it makes everyone around you, your family members, anxious. If it gets bad enough, you have to be sedated and intubated and put on a ventilator to help you breathe and recover, hopefully while your body fights out this virus. Host why are we seeing people die of cardiac arrest . Guest when the lung gets bad and particularly older people who have underlying illnesses, who may already have an underlying Heart Disease, the two of them . Together in the virus and the two of them can Work Together in the virus can attack that. Cardiopulmonary im afraid is the final exodus. Host why are ventilators being shared in new york and what concerns do you have with that . Guest ventilators are being shared, anticipate not having been there, because some people can be used of for part of the time and other patients can be put on them. Obviously that is usually being done when you have a shortage of ventilators. Safely, because ventilators are used from one patient after another. Host there is a headline in the paper this morning in the Washington Post that some doctors are writing wills. My, that is very serious and ominous. We are concerned about Health Care Workers and their safety. Everyone has been trained in the appropriate Infection Control precautions. We need the personal protective equipment and we have to be meticulous in their use. All of that together, nonetheless, is the risk that Health Care Workers can acquire these infections and once the virus or bodies, our bodies are just like everyone elses, susceptible to the virus. We may get a less severe infection and those of us who are older and may have underlying illnesses, we may be at hazard of getting more severe infections. In the is the headline areyork times doctors writing that they are writing their wills peered what are they not getting in the shortages . Guest it ranges and varies in different parts of the country. The think we have heard the most about, of course, are the masts. Both the simple surgical masks and the socalled more rigorous n95 respirators. People are reusing them, resterilizing them, and being meticulous about who uses them. We dont need to have them used casually now, because they are in general short supply across the country. We are doing alright here, but we have monitored the use very it is not wasteful, but we are anxious about the supply chain should heat up here. We are concerned about whether the supply will be steady over time. All the more reason, among many others, to flatten the socalled endemic curve and stretch out the patients over time. That will make it better and easier for us to take care of patients appropriately and safely over longer periods of time. We would like to flatten out the ep dimmick curve and stretch the epidemic curve and stretch things out. Host in your area where are they getting tested if they show symptoms and how quickly are they getting the results . Multifacetede a Testing Program in nashville. State Health Department has its own testing facility and is. Unning tests at double shift so they are working the maximum. I own institution has a series of Assessment Centers out here. We dont have them in the emergency room. We dont want people who are ill to come to our emergency room and spread their infection elsewhere. Is taking. Rature in some symptoms related to the lower respiratory tract, such as they will be eligible for a test. We are working fulltime. The metropolitan government has Assessment Centers scattered throughout the city so patients can go there. We have a laboratory to do the test but do not have a sufficient supply of swabs to take the specimen. I know my colleagues in the Health Department are scrambling trying to get sufficient supplies to actually take the specimen. Once the specimens to the laboratory, the turnaround is pretty good. We usually get information in a matter of hours or certainly 24 hours back to the patient and provider. We would like to test more widely. Host if someone tests positive, what do they do to trace and contain the infection coming from that person . Guest we are at a transition between containment, or Case Investigation is very important and getting all of the contacts and mediation or moderating the disease, just trying to lower it. It depends on the resources of the Health Department. We are trying to do Case Investigation, get contacts as much as possible at the very least informed and many of them, depending on symptoms, tested. We are doing a bit of both in our state. Host let me give the phone numbers. In the Eastern Central part of the country, 202 7488000 mountain pacific, 202 7488001. Medical professionals, 202 7488002. Start dialing in now so we can take your questions and comments for dr. William schaffner. Dr. Anthony fauci at the task force reaping talked about Vaccination Development and trials and how do you respond to it . Thing i mentioned several times from this podium is to clarify about the timeline for vaccines. And with that have pretty real impact on what we would call a rebound and cycling in season. Certainly a vaccine will not help us now or next month or the month after. Trialt into a phase one and i keep referring to one vaccine. There is more than one. There are a couple at different stages of development, but they are all following the same course, and that is you first go into a phase one trial to see if it is safe, and you have very few people, but if i people, in age group, all healthy and not at great risk of getting infected. The reason you do that is you want to make sure that it is safe. The next thing you do, and it takes three months or more, which brings us to the middle of summer, you go to a phase two trial. We put a lot of people in there. We hope that there arent a lot of people getting infected. But it is like a really there will it is likely there will be somewhere that is going on and we will get an efficacy signal. We will know whether or not it works. If it works, we hope to rush it to be able to have some impact on recycling in the next season. Like i said, could be a year to a year and a half. I am not changing any of the dates mentioned. One thing we are going to do that we need to understand that has been a stumbling block for previous developing of vaccines, and that is even before you know something works, at risk, you have to start producing it because once you know it works, you cant say, great, it works, no give me another six months to produce it. We are working with a variety of companies to take that risk. We didnt take it with the zika. Same with sars. We are really going to push on that is to be able to have it ready if it works. Your thoughts after listening to dr. Fauci . Guest he did Vaccine Development 101 and if i may, because i know there is confusion, let me unpack some of that and explain what tony was talking about. The first thing in development of a vaccine. It is not for treatment, it is for prevention. We would like to prevent this disease, likely prevent measles, by giving a vaccine so you dont get the disease at all. The first thing you have to do is work in the laboratory to create a candidate vaccine. Then, and this is what dr. Fauci was talking about, why does it take so long after youve got this candidate vaccine in the laboratory to develop it before it is ready to be licensed for use . Two things are very important. You have to make sure that the vaccine is safe and that it doesnt make you ill in and of itself. There have been vaccine candidates in the past that have done that. So we dont want to do that. We dont want to harm the American People. The other thing is, you have to be sure it works. I will walk you through that. The first stage that dr. Fauci talked about was that you get a small number of volunteers, people who are recruited themselves, usually young adults who are otherwise healthy. About 40 or 50 of them get the vaccine. You check to make sure nothing adverse, other than a sore arm goes on, and you draw blood periodically to test whether the vaccine has worked in the body. , by thef that goes well time you recruit those people and give injections and follow them up, that can take three months, surprisingly long. Then you open it up and get a much larger group of people who volunteer. Some of them will get the vaccine and some of them will get a placebo, a salt solution, for example. Nobody knows who has gotten what come and then in the context of outgoing break outbreak an outbreak, you will be able to discover whether the vaccine prevents the disease and giving it to a larger number of people, you have a better assessment of how safe the vaccine is. Once you know exactly how well , how effective it is and it is safe, then you can go to licensing. The other thing tony said was as you are working through this process, what the government will do is not wait until the whole process is finished. The government will make an initial investment, probably a public, private cooperation, working with manufacturers. If dr. Fauci and others feel the vaccine is going to work, they will actually start making the vaccine in large amounts before the final results are in, such that when the results do come in, bang, you can start vaccinating the American People right away. Host are they relying on one vaccine . Guest no, dr. Fauci said there are any number of scientists aat are trying to develop variety of vaccine candidates. So we will have a number of these trials going on simultaneously. One orend up with war more. Host we go to our next color. Caller i would like caller . Caller i would like to ask the doctor is what is the incidence of those who have been intimated on ventilators respirators . How long do they have to stay on. Are we rearranging the chairs on the titanic . Ahead, dr. Schaffner. Guest we take care of them and when they get sicker, they are admitted to the intensive care unit and put on a respirator. Just like anyone for an illness we are giving intensive care, we watch that patient very carefully, hoping they respond. Some patients, the most severely ill, will die. Others will recover and we can gradually wean them off of the respirator, and some of those people will leave the intensive care unit and go back to life and recover. Capacity to provide intensive care is so much better today than it was 20 years ago. We would expect some of those gravely ill people to actually print the corner and come back to life and go back into the community. Host we will go to bill in new jersey, a medical professional. What do you do . Caller i am a retired rn. Ems ent on an my local ems unit. Masks, but weany take precautions when we got a patient off at the hospital. The stretcher is thoroughly sanitized. The vehicle is thoroughly sanitized. Base, thek to our unit is sanitized again. And then the unit is left outside with the air conditioning on and the vents on for approximately an hour. We have the option to do that because we are not really a busy outfit. We have 1500 calls a year. These other units that are out there, which are doing runs things after runs have to be thoroughly sanitized. I wonder how they are doing that. Thank you for your service. I am glad you are doing that. We need all the help we can get. I love you. Everyone is doing the best you can and simple sanitation with those whites actually works very well. It kills the virus very rapidly. I think there is usually time to wipe down an ambulance very carefully and thoroughly between patients. We ought to be able to do that. Host we will go to priscilla in martinsburg, west genia. You west virginia. What do you do . Caller i am a registered nurse. Masks. N95 they have a log because we dont have a shortage at. But we are all issued one mask it breaks it until out and then we use a face shield. That is what we have been doing. My bigger issue is just prevention. If people come into the hospital , we are trying to encourage people who arent sick enough to be there to stay home. When thestrating president says he wants the businesses to open by easter or trying to figure out which companies are at less risk than others. West virginia has the highest risk population by most peoples estimation, but we havent seen a large quantity of cases that we know of. I guess, first of all how do you iel about the method that describe of rees he and masks and sanitizing the face shields described of her reusing the masks and sanitizing the face shields. Guest good for you. Thank you for being out there for us. Yes, you can reuse n95 respirators. You do it with care. Between patients, you can put them in a paper bag so they dont get damaged. We have long known that unless the n95 respirator is in some way gotten soiled or distorted, it can be used more than once. You are getting double protection because in addition to the respirator, you are putting on a face shield in front of that, so you have double protection. You can sanitize that face shield very readily with a wipe. So good for you. It sounds like you are doing a good thing. Hang tight, because i suspect you will be seen more cases in the next two to three weeks. Host we go to angela in virginia. Caller good morning. I want to say that the way that this doctor in the way that cspan and so many others and newspapers and all the way that you are reporting this, it seems that you just want the American People to be afraid. I noticed that you would report how many people contracted it and would report how many people die, but you wont report how many people have tested negative, you wont report how many people have recovered. Is tom hanks on a respirator . Was he ever on a respirator . Did he die . You are not giving us a full picture and it seems to me that you dont want to give us a full picture, because the majority that you all have been talking about his height. Hype. It is a shame to me that you socalled leaders would do this to the American People. If it is not hype, give us the full picture. Thank you. Host ok dr. Schaffner. Guest i am sorry if ive given you the wrong impression. There is no doubt we are going to get many infections and causes a spectrum of infections. All the way from people who have no symptoms to people who have very mild symptoms. We see this every day in nashville. People have milder symptoms and dont get serious involvement of their lungs. There is that notable, serious component. It is thought that about 70 to ,0 will have milder symptoms not need hospitalizations. Have about 15 ou to 20 of people who have symptoms severe enough to need hospitalization, some of whom need intensive care, if we get widespread infections, that is still going to be a large number of people, even though they percent is relatively small, even though it is a minority. That large number, if it comes all at once, is really going to put a strain on the health care system. We are not saying that all over the country, not yet. But in new york, new orleans, growing in chicago, now in detroit, parts of florida, they are the hot zones. The other areas are warming up. That is what is happening in nashville. We are seeing a steady stream of patients being admitted to our institutions in the middle part of the state. I am afraid we anticipate more. There are two stories, but most of us who are wearing the white coats are concerned about the folks who are being admitted to the hospital and it is great that many other people are getting milder infections and dont need hospitalization. But remember, they can be spreaders and they can distribute the virus more widely in the population, sometimes affecting people who are older and have underlying illnesses who will get the more severe infections. We are all in this together. We all have to help each other try to reduce the spread of this virus. Host to follow the numbers in real time, you can go to Johns Hopkins website. They had this map put together, 549,000 total confirmed cases around the world. Almost 25,000 deaths. You can see 128,000 people have recovered. Map thatkins medical they have put together tracking this outbreak in real time. Judith from largo, florida. What do you do . Caller i worked in the psychiatric field. Informationlittle about what is being done to address the Homeless Population and psychiatric people with problems that are out there. I have heard that shelters are closing down because they cannot apart. N the six feet these people will not maintain it anyway. I just dont hear it much. Does the doctor know anything about that . Guest you raise a very interesting point, judith. I am not sure i have heard about what is happening locally or nationally with the Homeless Population. I would say that if any of those people are sick, they can get tested, because interestingly enough, the financial barrier is not the issue here. If they are sick enough to qualify for a test, tests can be provided for them. I know there are a variety of psychiatric aspects to this illness. There is a terrific epidemic of anxiety about coronavirus out there, and there are people who have been quarantined for 14 days and there is an element of cabin fever out there also, particularly among older people who can feel very isolated. There are many volunteer groups and professional groups working with the agent helping them get through this period of time where people feel removed from each other and very lonely. Host here is a text from someone. Seven over 65 gets coronavirus, what are their chances to get recovery . Guest i am not sure i have the exact numbers. Of how manyn a lot chronic underlying illnesses that individual has. I think of people who are 65 and older who have this infection, the majority still recover. I think that is a good thing. Littlela reminded us a time ago, we have to remind hold onto that. Host in wisconsin. Caller good morning. My question has to do about the adequacy of the total amount of testing that is being done. My simple point would be, yesterday the president reported there were 550,000 tests ready completed. Simple math would tell you that 1 of the total u. S. Population. People, test 3 million we will not have even reached 1 of the total number of people who have been tested. My concern is adequacy of total testing and in particular the surveillance testing we need to do to get a real sense of how widespread and deep this illnesses. Doubt. There isnt any we all know about this and have heard about it, we have come to testing efficiency rather late and it is still gearing up around the country. From both a clinical and a Public Health point of view, we still havent tested sufficiently. I actually think there are three reasons to be tested. The first is a very clinical reason. So both the patient and the doctor can define whether an individual has coronavirus. That helps the doctor and the patient and if the patient is well enough to go back to their family, it makes it more real for that individual. The second thing is that we need likeublic Health Purposes the listener has said, we would like to define better the extent of the infection in the United States and see where it is focused and where it is getting worse. We need much more widespread testing. Then i would say there is even a third reason because our National Leaders have told people that we ought to be able to be tested if they care to be tested. There are a lot of worries out there. We have heard about infection without symptoms. They are concerned about themselves and their families. They would like to know whether they have the infection. It will take us quite a while to be able to test much more broadly, but it is Getting Better day by day. Host mark in massachusetts, you are on the air with dr. William schaffner. Go ahead. Caller i would like to thank for their wonderful and unbiased service to our country. That theomment, i feel federal governments response, especially in the early days, has been ineffective. I wish the president would implement the defense ct to get ppe going. I heard the other day that there are many masks overseas. Is there any reason why we are not importing masks from other countries . Guest i think that is above my pay grade. I am not sure about the International Flow of masks. The first thing i would think of is most countries would want the mass they have to stay in their own countries. I am going to take a pass on that. I dont know anything about the International Commerce of masks. Host perfectly understandable. Ron in new hampshire, go ahead. Caller my question is in regards to the theater roosevelt shipped that has 25 cases. I know there are ongoing tests to moment to find out try to find some antibodies. I am wondering if it would be a ,ood idea to release 25 people the navy men into the hospitals. What is your take on that, just to help out and maybe expedite the process of finding these antibodies . They are soldiers and i am sure they would love to accommodate and help the country out. That is my question. Guest i think what you have reference to is a line of research that is ongoing that might provide treatment for people with the coronavirus infection, particularly severe treatment. When we get infected, our body responds and creates proteins that circulate in the blood that actually work against the virus. The virus is eliminated from our bodies and we recover. But those proteins continue and they will protect us in the future if we get reexposed to the virus. So that is interesting. We could take some of those peoples blood and kind of purified, if you will, y it, if you will, and use it for other people. It needs to be evaluated. In the past, some of that has ed, kind of. Do more. Like to we dont have any specific antiviral treatment yet. For coronavirus. Stay tuned. Those studies are ongoing. Host to try to diminish the symptoms of the coronavirus, should you be trying to boost your immune system and, if so, how do you boost your mood immune system . Guest boosting the immune system is just a part of trying to live as healthy a life as possible, getting good sleep, good hydration, moderate size. And then the most important thing any of us can do right now is stay away from other people. This virus travels from person to person very readily. That is why there is the sixfoot rule. Try to stay as far away from feet atople, six least. That is why we are in one form or another locking ourselves down and in across the country to minimize the transmission of this virus to reduce the likelihood that it will be spread in our communities, flatten the curve we have all heard that spread this epidemic out. Host dora in jacksonville, north carolina. Morning dr. Schaffner. My question is i had looked on googles and check out the cdc and said a type b was more vulnerable to the coronavirus. I wanted to know, are they doing a study on the blood types a positive, a positive, ab . Egative, type oh some patients are more b . Ceptible, is it more type are they doing a statistical analysis. Guest you are a wonderful scientist and meeting reading the literature. There is very early data that depending on your blood type you may be more or less susceptible to acquiring the infection are getting a more severe infection. Type o was thought to be in a more beneficial position. I dont know whether anybody at the cdc particularly is doing that, but there are undoubtedly instigators and academic institutions that are pursuing that. Interesting thing to find out. If you could learn why people of one type are more resistant, if you will, to the infection, that might give us a clue about how we might develop a preventive that would be available to more people. Host do you have any guesses as to why one blood type would be more vulnerable to another . Guest it may be a genetic theer of other aspects of bodys inflammatory response that make it more capable of fighting off the virus than others. Lets not hang our hats on this yet. It is still early data. Host sean in massachusetts. Caller thank you for taking my call. The virus i hear originated from animals. Do we have to worry about animals carrying the disease and come mosquito season have to worry about this all over again . Guest put mosquitoes aside. Coronavirus is not transmitted by mosquitoes. We can all take a deep breath about that. There are a whole family of coronavirus is and number of strains. Just a few affect humans. They give us common colds. There are other coronaviruss that affect a variety of animals. They usually stay in those animals. They dont come to us, except every once in a while one of them jumps species. It comes from an animal strain and infects humans. It happened with sars once. It happened with middle east respiratory symptom. Now this coronavirus has come to us. In all thepened once other infections around the globe have come from that one transmission from one animal to one human being who then spread it to others and since then it has been human to human. Dont worry about your pets. They wont get this virus. You can hug your pets. A off hugging other people at the moment. Host if sars came from jumping from animal to human now we have seen the coronavirus, should wet markets like wuhan be allowed to operate Going Forward when you have dead and live animals in these narrow stalls to each other . Guest greta, i am an Infectious Disease doctor and public person in the United States. Youre asking me to make a judgment about a huge cultural phenomenon in china that is ancient. But i will say that many publichealth people have been speaking with publichealth people in china asking them wetd they not and those animal markets because it is clearly a way that both influenza strains and coronavirus strains have jumped from animal species to humans. I would like those wet markets ended for sure. Host bought in texas. Caller a question about plasma and chloroquine. I was wondering what the supply, shelflife, and success rate has been and also the percentage of those cured with hydroxychloroquine. Bob, we are only in the early stages of using the immune plasma to try to treat patients. I havent seen any data about that. Hat is very early days hydroxychloroquine is another story. That is a drug we have known about for a long time. It is not a completely safe drug. It has all kinds of side effects and has to be monitored carefully. He has been used in the past to treat malaria and certain rheumatologic diseases, such as lupus. And in a fewtory patients, there are hints that it might work against the coronavirus, we dont know that for sure. And as dr. Fauci has said, the only way we will determine whether it works and, if so, how well, is to actually do controlled trials. They have started. We all have our fingers crossed because we would love an effective treatment. Wait and see, titan your seatbelts. Ghten your seatbelts. There are many with lupus that are being treated with hydroxychloroquine. They are now having many of them difficulty getting prescriptions refilled because that medication is being diverted to treat patients with coronavirus where we dont know how well, if at all, it works. Lets take it easy on treating coronavirus patients with hydroxychloroquine until we know it works. We dont want to harm other patients who are also among us. Nashville,ll go to tennessee, where you are, and talk to linda. Caller good morning, dr. Or. Ave a twoparkway doct i have a twopart question. I suspect that because this thing has taken off like wildfire that it cant be just the droplet exposure from people coughing and sneezing in your ,ace, because when you go out typically, you dont have a bunch of people coughing and sneezing on you. Could it be just spread by normal talking to a person . And also related to that, when the virus settles on products not also becould it s hair andyour pet couldnt when you are wiping your pet, should they be wiped down . Fromhen you notice that pictures from europe and other countries, they are actually spraying down floors and buildings and gardens with this spray and playgrounds. So i am questioning how long this virus stays on particular solids. Linda peered schaffner. I will have dr. Schaffner. Schaffner jump in here. Guest when laypeople talk about droplets, they talk about people sneezing and it is gross. But when scientists talk about droplet transmission, they are talking about it just the way you mentioned, just being within three to six feet of someone. If i had the virus and i am just talking to you, i exhale. Microscopically, there are what we call droplets. You cant see them, they are in the air surrounding the virus. If you are within three to six feet of me, i exhale with the virus and you inhale. You inhale part of what i breezed out in the virus will go into your lungs and begin to infect you. Spacing within three to six feet, usually in a more prolonged fashion, not just passing you by on the sidewalk, but in a room, this virus can be transmitted very readily. And all of the surfaces, it is well and good to disinfect those , i dont think you have to worry about your pet very much. The virus on the surface is not going to jump off of that surface and bite you. The way it gets to you is on your hands, because if you touch something, get the virus on your hands, and touch your nose or mouth or i, you can inoculate knows or mouth or , you canr mouth oreye inoculate yourself. The best way to prevent that is to wash your hands. Host we will go to paul in new york. Good morning to you. Caller good morning. Thingsoing to ask about you are probably not knowledgeable about, the amount of ppe and Testing Available in Companies Providing supplies. About it back in early december in china. Muffled. L, you are can you get your mouth near the phone . Caller is this better . Host we heard you say we know about this back in december. What did you say about that . Caller were we naive to believe it wasnt going to make it to the United States . Up didnt we begin ramping our protective equipment and testing capabilities then . Also, the transmission through and touching surfaces peered what about broken skin . Guest first of all, remember, initially there were very few people who had come to the United States with coronavirus. We were able to identify them very rapidly and make that diagnosis and put them in isolation and find all of their contacts and monitor them. We were doing a terrific job initially. Of course travel between the United States and china was ended. We didnt allow people to move back and forth. That bought us a lot of time here that was excellent. But we underestimated how rapidly this rapid virus can be transmitted from person to person. Because we were slow to ramp up testing, the virus got ahead of us and now it is running throughout the entire country. That is really the answer for that. Host ruth, dearborn heights, michigan. Caller i worked in radiation physics many years ago. Are you familiar with the work of martin paul, the professor from Washington University . Guest i am sorry, i dont know martin pauls work. Caller martin paul has found information, like for instance the epsteinbarr virus can be lowfrequency. Oxygen can be activated at 60 gigahertz and interferes with oxygen absorption, and that is being used in china with the 5g and was rolled out shortly for this disease. The point is, a lot of the symptoms of the flu can be also from radiation, 5g, especially, which goes from six gigahertz to 300 gigahertz. I am wondering if you have researched that. General, the densification of radiation we are seeing with 5g is going to make a lot of people sick and will also interfere bodyse bodies ability to fight the virus. In actually activate viruses. Could you comment on that . Guest my comment is going to be very limited. There is vast literature on influenza and growing literature on coronavirus. I have seen nothing over the years that relates radiation to the spread of these viruses. I dont know about that. In california, your comment. Caller good morning. People died from tuberculosis or pneumonia the United States. What is your comment about that people diehat 21,000 a date from hunger all over the world. What do you think about that . There are a lot of predispositions to pneumonia. Even without the coronavirus and even without influenza, there are people who get pneumonia because they have underlying lung disease Heart Disease and as you know, it becomes more common as you get older. It sometimes we can prevent these pneumonias. We have a good vaccine against one whole family of germs that causes pneumonia. We are still not able to prevent them all. World,unger around the my heart is with you. I wish we could do something about that. We need a green revolution. Evanston, illinois, dan. Caller thank you for taking my call. Octor. Orning, d stage two of the development , you said this was a large number of people like , and half of them had the vaccine and half of them have a placebo. Thoseage ii trial exposes people to the environment of the epidemic, you said. Saying that those people with the placebo, we are just throwing that out there, they are volunteers, but this is a lethal virus. So are they really rolling the dice . Am i correct about this . Guest lets think about that very carefully. Just because we use the vaccine word is not mean it works. At time zero, and this is reviewed by ethics boards volunteer. And every i volunteered in vaccine studies myself. Everyone gets fully informed. We dont know whether the vaccine works so there is no ethical reason we have to give it to everybody because we dont know whether it works and we are still not sure about its safety. So at that stage of Vaccine Development, it is ethical to have volunteers come in fully informed and they dont know whether they are going to get the vaccine or a placebo and then they live their lives normally in the community and we follow them for a period of time and we see whether the Vaccine Group has a lower occurrence of disease than the people with the placebo. That is monitored very carefully. If there is an indication, a substantial indication that the vaccine is working, there are external data safety monitoring boards that can end that vaccine trial and immediately give the vaccine to everyone. So this is very carefully, ethically monitored. Host allen in tampa, florida. Caller once you get the virus, are you immune . And once you are immune, could those people have an armband letting people know they are immune and also take care of the sick people and work for the government or work on the front lines . What is your opinion on those questions . I love it. Lets insert immunity and then service of immune people. The immunity question is a little more complicated than i would like. The coronavirus that affects humans are not exactly like the measles virus. If you get the measles virus as a child or the vaccine now, you are protected for life, solid protection. Some infections dont give you that salad to action. The normal human coronavirus is due give you protection, but it begins to wane after a year. So that protection is not as solid or forever. It makes you think if you are developing a vaccine you might have to, let the flu vaccine, get it every year. We thinkf the other, that for a period of at least a year, you are probably well protected if you can recover. If you could identify people with a quick test, which is not yet available but tests are being developed, then perhaps, particularly in the health care environments, could determine who is previously protected and that would give you a great deal of assurance about safety of Health Care Workers taking care of people who are actively ill. We are getting to the top of the hour where the house will be gaveling in at 9 00 a. M. To begin debate on the 2. 2 trillion economic aid package, as you probably know. And then they are slated for a vote after the three hours of debate. I am trying to get to ingrid in pensacola, florida, but i may have to stop it short. Make it quick if you can. Caller thank you so much. Autoimmune e that . We know guest people with autoimmune diseases are at more risk of getting more severe disease, all the more reason they should shelterinplace and to stay away from other folks at the present time. Host schaffner