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The 2020 election. Republicans, we want to know what you think about russians trying to interfere in the election. Your number will be 202 7488001. Democrats, we especially want to hear from you on this topic. Your number will be 202 7488000. Independents, your voice counts two, so your voice will be 202 7488002. Keep in mind, you can always text us your opinion. That number will be 202 7488003. And we are always reading on social media. , and oner at cspanwj facebook at facebook. Com cspan. Once again, this story was broken yesterday by the Washington Post. We will read a little bit from what the post story says about this this morning. U. S. Officials have told senator Bernie Sanders that russia is attempting to help his president ial campaign as part of an effort to interfere with the democratic contest, according to people familiar with the matter. President trump and lawmakers on capitol hill have also been did thin informed about the russian assistance to the senator, said people speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive intelligence. It is not clear what form the russian assistance has taken. U. S. Prosecutors found a russian effort in 2016 to use social media to boost sanders camp[ai aign against Hillary Clinton to sow dissension in the american electorate and ultimately, help elect donald trump. Yesterday on cnn, senator sanders responded to the release of the report that u. S. Officials had briefed him on the russian efforts to help his campaign. Here is what senator sanders had to say. [video clip] they did interfere in 2016. The Intelligence Community is telling us they are interfering in this campaign right now, in 2020. Ift i say to mr. Putin, elected president , trust me, you are not going to be interfering in american elections. [inaudible] about a month ago. What are you going to do now that you know this . It is not clear what role they are going to play. It we were told that russians and others were going to get involved in this campaign. To russia, stay out of american elections. And what they are doing, by the way, the ugly thing they are doing i have seen some of their tweets and stuff if they try to divide us up, that is what they did in 2016, and that is the ugliest thing they are doing. They are trying to cause chaos, trying to cause hatred in america. It is an ugly business and all of us have to say sorry, you are not going to do this in this election. As president of the United States, mr. Putin, you will not interfere in our elections. You had the briefing a few months ago. I will let you guess. Monday before the iowa caucus. The Washington Post . Good friend. Host the Sanders Campaign later released an official statement, which im going to read here unlike donald trump, i do not consider Vladimir Putin a good friend. He is an autocratic thug who is a tempting destroy democracy and crush dissent in russia. Lets be clear. Russians want to undermine american democracy i dividing us up. Unlike the president , i stand firmly against their efforts and against any other foreign power that wants to interfere in our election. I do not care who putin wants to be president. My message to putin is clear stay out of american elections, and as president i will make sure that you do. Also, during his keep America Great rally in las vegas, nevada, President Trump himself also responded to reports that russia is meddling with the 2020 election. Here is what President Trump had to say. [video clip] i was told that was happening. I was told week ago. They are trying to start a rumor. It is disinformation. That is the only thing they are good at. Donothing democrats that putin wants to make sure that i get elected. Listen to this. Doesnt he want to see who the democrats are going to be . When he rather have, say, bernie . Honeymooned in moscow. These people are crazy. That is all they think about. They dont think about the country, jobs, about lowering your drug costs, infrastructure these people are crazy. Trust me. I like what we are doing and i love this country. I love this country. Host once again, we want to know what you think about the report from the Washington Post that russia may be meddling to aid Bernie Sanders campaign. From start with rita jacksonville, alabama on the independent line. Good morning. Caller i dont seem to think aat russia is pulling for a, sanders. The world was never divided like it is now, with so much corruption going on. Since trump became president , everyone says the economy is good, but i have a different thought about that. Put on threence dollars more for me to donate to the farmers, and instead of me giving the three dollars, they went up three dollars on my premium. Health care has gone [inaudible] and drug medicines that people has to have is ridiculous. Trump aint nothing but a baby. He needs a pacifier and a bottle and a diaper change, because he stinks. Thank you. Host lets go to terry, calling from hagerstown, maryland on the republican line. Good morning. Caller good morning sir. It seems to me, the liberal media is making excuses and they havent even lost the election yet. In 2016, russia could not make me vote for President Trump, Hillary Clinton did. This election cycle will not be russia, it will be the democrats up on that stage. Look at what these people are proposing in the light of day. They want to at least double our taxes, they want to purge all private medical insurance, meaning the Insurance Benefits you get at work, they are going to take that away from you whether you like it or not. They are going to dump us into a onesizefitsall Health Care Plan like the v. A. , and they want to for the bill have bill for us to for illegal to have college and health care. Host so do you not believe the report . Caller but we are talking a tiny amount of socalled advertising. Look at what bloomberg himself is spending. Pacs,u have the super that, by the way, Lizzie Warren said she was not going to take but now it is. It is miniscule. No one has ever shown, sir, where one single vote was changed from hillary to donald trump. This is all just excuses. Democrats know they are in for a good Old Fashioned texas but whipping in november. On theo to our caller democrat line. Good morning. Caller good morning. I know russia is doing this. I mean, putin is just like trump, you know . Just a mouth full of lies. That is it. The reason russia is doing this is because donald trump told putin, that is who he wants to run against. Bernie sanders. He wants to run against Bernie Sanders so that he can pull out the socialist thing over and over and over again, and putin is doing exactly what donald trump told him to do. Make people vote for Bernie Sanders so that trump can run against Bernie Sanders. That is the only reason this is happening. I bet they talk on the phone every week. I bet trump and putin talks on the phone every week to decide their strategy. Trump is putins manchurian candidate. Allison,s go to calling from trenton, new jersey on the independent line. Allison, good morning. Caller good morning and good day. Is the first time i agreed with trump on something. He said this is all about disinformation. I agree. I think this is disinformation. I think someone in this country is planting that story to make that burning is working with the russians or that they are supporting him. It is all about labeling him. It is all about calling bernie a communist, as opposed to a democraticsocialist. It is all about paying attention to labels and what they imply instead of looking at the content of what sanders and warren are trying to do. Instead of looking at the ideas, nickel thinking, it is so much critical thinking, it is so much easier to put them in a box and not have to think things through. Host are you saying you disbelieve the Intelligence Services when they say this is happening . Caller i disbelieve it. I think it was a story that was planted by trumptype people. Host you think the trumpet administration has Intelligence Services lying to congress about this . Caller somehow, someway, i do believe that. I just dont believe that is really happening. Well, they are saying it about me, so we will throw it back at them. We will pick up the mud and throw it back at them. Yeah, i think it is a planted story. Host lets look at some of our social media followers and some of our viewers who are texting theheir opinions on whether Washington Post story, russia is meddling to a Bernie Sanders campaign. Here is a tweet that says he was briefed a month ago. Bernie blames the Washington Post for scoop in is. It might be so that we do not ourselves why russia wants bernie to face off with trump in the first place. Another text from mike in new york, saying bernie called out. Utin what did trump say the white house . Dont believe what you see . Dont believe what you read . Just leave him. God help us all. Love cspan. Another text that says please, no more Washington Post lies. Russia is not interfering with the selection anymore than it has over the last 50 years. All countries would like to know what goes on in every countrys elections. There is one tweet that says that the evilr russians are allegedly meddling. We want to know what you think about the Washington Post story saying russia is meddling to a gn. Nie sanders campai Bernie Sanders, in wednesdays indebate in the nevada, imply that russian actors may have been manipulating social media to incite democratic divisions of this election. He talked about this during the democratic debate. Here is what senator sanders said. [video clip] not being too paranoid. Of us were member remember 2016, and what we remember is efforts by russians and others to interfere in our elections and divide us up. I am not saying that is happening, but it would not shock me i saw some of the tweets. Prounion30 year, 100 , voting record. Do you think anyone who supports me would be attacking the Union Leaders . It is unthinkable. Host lets go back and see what you think about the Washington Post story, suggesting russia is meddling to aid Bernie Sanders campaign. Lets go to peggy, calling from aurora, minnesota on the republican line. Peggy, good morning. Caller im ready to blow a fuse. I tell you, all they think about his impeachment. Go home. They are not thinking about us. And i it is all lies. My grandson [inaudible] they brainwashed my grandson with all these lies, and i think our president has a good case, because he hasnt showed any truth that it was trump. They never mentioned anything. I am very happy that im sorry i was very happy at the state union address. He show the American People everything he has done. Upsetrry, i am just so about this. [inaudible] and i will tell you right now, all this is. They are trying to get him again. They wont let it go. Host lets go to gordon, calling from sacramento, california on the democratic line. Gordon, good morning. Caller good morning, good morning. Im an African American in my early 60s, and i have seen this play out all during the civil rights movement, the misinformation propaganda as it andains to Voting Rights just plain old civil rights. Here we go again. I am from the era, in kindergarten, we used to hide under the desks thinking about the bombs during the cuba crisis and everything, and a family of military veterans. Living abroad, being around, theng an open mind, i think American Public, you know, spearheaded this. Communication, misinformation being spearheaded by social media, they are so gullible. They do not really see what is happening. That makes it so easy for the russian government to separate us and do what they are doing. Now they want to put bernie in the same position they put , to confuseton in this reality tv public as they go to the polls and add more dissension between the American People. This is crazy. Now, the New York Times points out that this disclosure came a day before the nevada caucuses, which are later today, where mr. Sanders is a favorite, and follow the revelations a day earlier that moscow was interfering on President Trumps behalf this year, as it did in 2016. A little bits into more detail about what happened in the briefing. Let me read that to you in briefings to House Intelligence Committee members last week and to mr. Sanders, officials said russia was actively interfering in the campaign. The house briefing said intelligence officials said russia had a preference for mr. Trump. Revelations about the house briefings enraged the president , useclaimed democrats would moscows support for him against him, people familiar with the matter said. Later, he replaced the acting director of national intelligence, joseph maguire, although Administration Officials have said it was not a direct result of the briefing. The americanll, ambassador to germany who mr. Trump appointed this week to replace mr. Maguire, asked the agencies under his purview on friday to provide the raw information and analysis that went into the briefing, people familiar with the matter said. Once again, all this came out on friday, one day before the nevada caucuses. I will remind you that today, cspan will have the latest from nevadas Democratic Caucuses and remarks from the candidates. Live coverage will start here on cspan at 6 00 p. M. Eastern, so tune in starting at 6 00 p. M. Latest from the nevada caucus and the candidate speeches on cspan, cspan. Org, and of course, on the free cspan radio app. Lets go back to our phone lines and see what you have to say about the Washington Post report , that russia has been meddling to aid the Sanders Campaign. Lets talk to tom, calling from new york, new york state on the independent line. Tom, good morning. Caller thank you very much, cspan, good morning america. Desperation again. Desperation by the democrats. They cant win fairly, so now they have to do with the unfair way. Host how do you think this is unfair for the democrats . Caller because they wasted all three years with donald trump and the presidency, could have got so much stuff done. They wasted all that time on the phony russia, russia, russia thing. It didnt work out for them. It wasnt the truth. Now they are into the whole ukraine thing. They try to bury him with that. They are still not working with the guy. Three years they ruined this guys presidency and how much he could have got done. It is ridiculous. It really is ridiculous. Host lets go to amelia, calling from california on the democratic line. Caller good morning. Host amelia, good morning. Cspan. Good morning, i think the Washington Post would put whoever is leading in the polls if it would have been Pete Buttigieg, they would have said he was meddling, russia was meddling with him, because Bernie Sanders is doing so well, they are trying to throw a wrench in what is going on, and all of Bernie Sanders of bernie, i am sanders supporter, it has nothing to do with russia. It has to do with a man who has a good outlook in helping the average American People. You just cant take everything at its word, you know . You cant be like the gentleman said earlier, you can be that gullible. If it wasnt bernie, it would have been another democratic president ial candidate who is doing well. They would have put their name on it. Bernie is doing well, so hey, lets put the wrench in Bernie Sanders, try to screw that up. It is going to give republicans or going to give trump fuel to say, Bernie Sanders really didnt win. It was the russians who helped him. They are not going after bernie, they are working with trump. They work with trump and trump is totally ok with it, where Bernie Sanders is not. Host President Donald Trump actually referred to this weeks democratic debate during his keeping America Great again rally in las vegas. Here is what he had to say. [video clip] the radical and left radical left attempts to turn have ended inracy a big fat failure. By the way, you saw today, single best day i have ever had in the polls. [cheers and applause] and any poll that the fake news gives you, because the real numbers are higher, but any poll a fake. E you is but wisconsin, the great state of wisconsin, i was leading by many, many, many points by everyone. Mike, how did he do in the debate . Mike he needs a box. He was a beauty. What happened . He couldnt breathe. What happened . Mike would like to know. How about that pocahontas screaming at him . Host lets go back to our phone lines and talk to thomas, calling from spring hill, florida on the republican line. Good morning. Caller good morning. I want to get two facts out why it is in the russians best interests to have sanders as the president. First, trump is the only president that has put sanctions on russia. The only one that has put more sanctions on russia than any other president , so it is in their best interest to get rid of trump. Number two, sanders, a socialist, communist. You have to remove or, back in the day with nikita khrushchev, when he said we would never take over the United States, pushing socialism on a capitalist we have Higher Education schools selling them socialist ideas free health care, free medical, free education, all these free benefits that they got the young people and some of the old gold tople old gullible people think about these freebies, socialist ideas. Bottom line is, Bernie Sanders is a socialist communist and along with the Democrat Party that has been hijacked by socialists and communists, he is a russian planned. Thats all. Go to jeff, calling from virginia on the independent line. Good morning. Caller good morning. Thank you for taking my call. I dont see how we can say anything about any kind of meddling in an election. I think we killed saddam hussein, we tried to overturn syria, we named some guy that never got a single vote the president of venezuela. When it comes to meddling, we are the champions. Toouple of facebook posts, call that meddling when we are doing these things is just up. Een just obscene we have to put things into perspective. We cannot go around the world doing things and belly eight when they start doing the same whens to us bellyache they start doing the same things to us. I do not think this will influence the election one way or the other, it is a way to get notoriety for the campaigns and things of this nature. But we have to stop doing it if we want others to stop doing it. We have to lead by example. Host lets go to gym, calling from portland, oregon on the republican line. Jim, good morning. Caller good morning, how are you . Host go ahead. My first times ever calling into the show, but i think russia, china, what ever country, they would want to so discontent insew our society. If you can take on your adversaries without even raising a wrench, do it. Make them unhappy. I think the republicans, the they both i think throw out misinformation, and i think it got thrown on bernie this time for other reasons that people can figure out if they would stop going, i am only democrat. I am only republican. Look to the middle. Take a breather. It is all this is a lot of politics. If we can get away from the politics and just speak the truth on both sides, like i wyden a while back. I told him, what are you going to do about the discontent and the demise of our moral society . He said, there is nothing i can do. It is the will of the people. There you have it. Duane, callingto from westbrook, maine on the independent line. Good morning. Caller hi jesse. The last person was correct. Have both parties being played against each other, people within both parties by the intelligence establishment in this country that represents the interests of oligarchs in this country. It is not a foreign country we need to worry about, weve got people blaming russia on both sides, the republican and Democratic Party. It is not russians raking in our elections or meddling in our is on the but it Republican Party and Democratic Party to blame russia while the intelligence establishment rakes elections rigs against any outsider. It was aimed at trump before, and now it is aimed at Bernie Sanders because it is a dividing caucus strategy. If we are looking at russia trying to divide elections, we are not paying attention to what they are doing in iowa or what they tried to do in nevada to Bernie Sanders, or trying to impeach donald trump for alleged fictional ties. If you had Jonathan Allen on, he wrote a book called shattered that documents the fact that they made it up in the forshchev campaign to cover , because there is a geopolitical strategy involves here and they do not want wars, they want to confront russia strategically abroad. That is what this is really about. They dont want Bernie Sanders to be president. The Democratic Party doesnt want that, and they are more than willing to allege some sort of ties with russia that dont fool americans into thinking our enemies are abroad when they are right here at home. And if you listen to the Washington Post, you need to posting that and talking about that publication on washington journal, because jeff bezos took billions of dollars from the cia to plant propaganda in that publication. Host lets look at some of the tweets that came out of congress about this story, when the d thatgton post allege the russians tried to meddle in Sanders Campaign. No matter how many times the lies, the reality is clear putin is interfering in our elections in 2020, just like in 2016. Publics need to explain why they have blocked reflection Senate Republicans need to explain why they have blocked Election Security bills 20 times. Donald trump to stay out, something trump has never said, because he is incapable of putting the countrys interests before his own. Lets go back to our home life and talk to the viewers once again about the Washington Post story, saying russia is meddling gn. Aid sanders campai in st. Louis,rol missouri on the democratic line. Good morning. Do believe that russia is probably meddling, but i do think they support sanders because they believe that trump can beat sanders. , am not a sanders supporter but isnt it a shame that we cant trust our own intelligence agencies because the president keeps saying it is not true . [inaudible] us. Is really dangerous to this is the top story of the day, but there have been several stories going on as the voters in nevada had to the caucuses today. I want to remind you once again that cspan will have the results from the Nevada Democratic caucuses and remarks from the candidates starting live at 6 00 p. M. Eastern. We will have the latest from the nevada caucuses live on cspan, cspan. Org, and on the free cspan radio app. About there talking story in the Washington Post about Bernie Sanders, there are other stories going on out there, as the voters in nevada head towards the caucuses. Heres another one from the Washington Post about Michael Bloomberg. I will read a little bit of that story to you as well. York mayor Michael Bloomberg said friday that his company will release from their nondisclosure agreements three women who have accused him of making offensive comments, a decision that comes after days of pressure from philo president ial candidates fellow president ial candidates. Said that after a lot of reflecting, he will not propose confidential agreements to resolve Sexual Misconduct claims in the future. An das,ize that particularly when they are used in the context of Sexual Harassment and sexual assault, promote a culture of silence in the workplace and contribute to a culture of women not feeling bloombergpported, said in a statement. Bloomberg said his media and Financial Services company had identified three ndas that address complaints about comments he had made. The women at the center of those agreements can ask to be released if they would like to said. Publicly, bloomberg once again, all of these stories are coming up as the nevada caucuses begin today. Can hearear that, you the latest on the caucuses starting at 6 00 p. M. Here on cspan. Lets once again go back to our phone lines and talk to our viewers about what they think about the Washington Post story, saying russia might be meddling to a Bernie Sanders campaign. Lets go to don, calling from burlington, vermont on the republican line. Caller good morning. This is in the form of a question. Back in the 1980s, when bernie was the mayor of burlington, vermont, he developed a cozy relationship, a sister city between a between burlington and the city in russia. It seems to me, at the height of the cold war, he had this ability to develop a relationship with the city in the soviet union. The question is i dont know did the kgb have to get involved in any of these developments between burlington and the sister city in russia . I lived in burlington all these years and i was wondering how this happened. Bernie seemed to have this great love affair with the all ofcubavenezuela, these radical communist socialist countries. I just cant believe that people in this country are being hoodwinked. Kgb,t to know, did the were they aware of bernies developments in the soviet union visavis burlington, vermont, and did he interact with the kgb . I cant believe he didnt. I cant believe they didnt know everything about what he was doing. I hope some of the can give me that answer. Host lets go to ray, calling from pennsylvania on the independent line. Good morning. Caller good morning, jesse. One problem that i have is this meddling, the russians meddling. I have never seen on your program, and ill bet you cannot show me an example, of how they meddled. I heard things, they put things on social media. Can you show me one example . Always talk about is their meddling, but not one concrete example. Not one ad on television. Nothing. Some of these more runs you got calling these more runs heres you got calling in oh, of course they are interfering no. Cspanave been watching from its inception, it is starting to convince me that you are leaning left when you use the Washington Post and the New York Times as an example. 95 of what they put in there is nothing but garbage, as far as im concerned. But can you show me one example, one ad, whatever they posted on twitter or facebook or whatever, show me what they put on there to show the interference. Some of your callers, especially the democrats, said that they tapped into the voter machines and change the count first off, you cannot tap into those machines because they are not hooked up to the internet. They tabulate numbers, they count of the numbers and send them to the county seat in every state just about. That is the way it is done. Those numbers cannot be tapped into. You cannot tap into something that is not on the internet, because you are not hooked up like your computer. It is p or garbage pure garbage when you spread this stuff. Im not afraid of putin, i am afraid of these lefties on the left. Michael in newto york, democrat line. Good morning. Caller good morning. It is a pleasure to be on cspan this morning. A great job. I watched on both sides of the aisle, everyone has their opinion. It is a wonderful country that we live in today, and thank you, cspan, for giving us that opportunity to voice. Are the russians hacking into our election system historically, like the cia and these other federal bureaus have told us that they have, why wouldnt i believe my federal agency . Let mr. Trump, he shoots them down. They do this for a reason, folks. It is to bait and switch. That is what our president is doing to us. I dont hate donald trump. I hate what he is doing, all right . Actions speak louder than words. The old lady that was complaining about the democrats and they do not know what they are talking about . Some food foru thought he is talking about cutting medicaid and Social Security and medicare and all of these social programs that are to protect the poor. Bernie sanders is square on. Democrats, get it together, get behind any candidate that runs against trump. It should be a wave of blue all up and down that voting tally. It is the only way we are going to get our country back and change it. Host lets go to daryl, calling from maple heights, ohio on the republican line. Good morning. Caller how are you doing today . Host just fine, go ahead. Caller great. I wanted to make a couple of quick points. First, i want to say all this russian hysteria stuff, russia, russia, russia, it is all about the establishment. The Establishment Republicans and the establishment democrats. They are mad because outsider candidates have taken control of the Republican Party and of the Democratic Party. You never hear all of this russian hysteria before 2016. I guarantee you, jeb bush or Hillary Clinton, if they were to become president tomorrow, you would not hear anything else about russia. This has to do with the deep state, the bureaucracy, people in the cia, the fbi, doj, state department these are career officials that hate the fact that you dont have an establishment candidate as president of the republican or Democratic Party. Lost them. Lets go to scott, calling from port st. Lucie, florida on the independent line. Good morning. Caller good morning, jesse. Good morning, cspan. Lets take a look at everything. Im politically astute, i think. Here is what is going on. They are trying to save hillary. There is no way out of it for her. She is in big trouble. The only way out of it is to get the ticket with biden. Bidens corruption has been exposed. Hes in trouble. What does she do . Who else can save her . Get somebody from new york i got it get the republican bloomberg to switch from republican to democrat, have him put out 500 million to try to run so she can run as Vice President , just like biden, and squash all her, you know, all the illicit stuff she has done. That is the only way out of it. Make sure i understand what you are saying here you think this has something to do with Hillary Clinton . Caller its all about hillary. It is. Look at the big picture. Now look at bloomberg. Bloomberg got tagged the other night by warren. Ene cannot run on a warr ticket. She cannot run on a buried ticket. Now that biden is heard, bloomberg is heading to third, she has nowhere to go. What is the next plan . I got it, push out the russian stuff again, go against trump and go against sanders. Lets talk to gary, calling from george on the end democratic line. Good morning. Caller good morning. My story is this those stories did not come from the Washington Post, they did not come from the democrats, they came from the trumpet Administration Trump administration intel. It was the same intel he used to kill someone from iran. How does he get to cherry pick which intel he wants to accept . Next week, he is ready to bomb iran, he will say, it is the intel that told me. Now he doesnt want to believe nothing they say. This did not come from the democrats. This came from his intel committee. It was his people who said the russians were still messing in the elections. That is what it was and he didnt like it, so he fired the man. Get it straight. Another thing is that, you know, everyone knows that Bernie Sanders cant beat donald trump. Everybody knows that. Even people fooling with Bernie Sanders need to remember one thing bernie is going to pull the down ticket down. Donald trump is going to end up with the congress, the senate, and the presidency in november. Thank you. Oft lets look at what some our social media followers are saying about our conversation this morning, about whether russia is meddling to aid Bernie Campaign your the text from greenbelt, maryland. Russia is playing each faction against each other. It is clear they do not care who wins as long as we hate each other. They won. True. Orrifying but another text that says, the putin governments support Bernie Sanders and the belief that sanders cannot win against from to ensure a Trump Victory against trump to ensure a Trump Victory. This is just another attempt of the dnc trying to take sanders out. Bernie 2020. And a tweet that says, this appears to be part of the russian strategy to derail the ofnt trump fears most all the candidates, only sanders has what trump has an extremely loyal movement backing him. Polls show all democrats beating trump nonetheless. Once again, all of this comes as the nevada caucus begins today. Once again, you can start seeing the latest from the nevada caucus and the candidate speeches, starting life today at 6 00 p. M. Eastern on cspan, cspan. Org, and the free cspan radio app. While he isnt participating in the nevada caucuses, stories about Michael Bloomberg seem to be coming out right and left from media organizations today. There is one in the Los Angeles Times that came out this morning that i want to talk about, and that is a story saying i will read from the story for you. Michael bloombergs president ial campaign has been experimenting with novel tactics to cultivate an online following, or at least the appearance of one. One of his strategies, employing a large number of to their accounts to push out twitter accounts to push out identical messages, have backfired. Twitter is suspending 70 pro bloomberg accounts that are posting in a pattern, violating company rules. We have taken enforcement action on a group of accounts for violating our rules against platform and it really and spam platform manipulation and spam. Some cases will be permanent. In other cases, count owners account owners will have to verify that they have control of their account. Merck has hired hundreds of temporary employees to pump out Campaign Messages through facebook, twitter, and instagram. Those deputy organizers received 25 hundred dollars a month to promote the former new york mayors candidacy within those social circles, in addition to more conventional duties. Again, all of this is coming up as we get ready for the nevada caucuses that begin, and we will have the latest from the nevada caucuses for you beginning at 6 p. M. Today on cspan 6 00 p. M. Today on cspan. Lets close out the first hour of our show to see what the callers think about the Washington Post story, that says russia has been meddling to aid Bernie Sanders campaign. From talk to val, calling South Carolina on the republican line. Sal, good morning. Caller good morning. You know, we spent millions of dollars trying to prove that the russians meddled in 2016. Now we are going to spend millions of dollars doing the same thing. When are people going to believe that there is no proof . When is the media going to go back to using who, what, when, where and how to prove a story . Whatsoevere proof about all this meddling, and i think it is a bunch of bull. Thank you. Host lets go to betty, calling from green bay, wisconsin on the independent line. Betty, good morning. Caller good morning. Im just trying to think of what the lady said before, about sanders. The 2016, during the campaign. He said he was going to have the ,est people to help the people and they all end up in jail. So he wanted to get rid of the he now has the people off because he doesnt have to go to jail now. Sanders is not going to win. He wants him to win because trump wants biden not to get in. He is the one that will win. Ok. He also said he wanted loyalty for everybody . Why doesnt he give us some loyalty . Host lets go to mike, calling from niagara falls, new york on the democratic line. Mike, good morning. Caller good morning. I thinkave to say that that these two sides are both competing with each other and social media so much none of it is believable. I think what they really ought , the candidates should commit to not posting anything on social media until after the elections. When i say social media, i mean anything over the computer. I think that is where the problem is. I do not think russia is to wherein such a way they are getting on one side or the other as much as they are getting on both sides by getting involved with social media. Thats what i think. Host lets go to robert, calling from greenville, kentucky on the republican line. Good morning. Caller good morning. Host go ahead, robert. Caller ok, im sorry. My question is, why is it when they had the midterm elections did we not hear of any russian meddling . If the russians are so good at hacking and can sway peoples votes, why is it that when the democrats were winning we did not hear anything about any russian meddling . Callingts go to les, from kentucky on the independent line. Pronounce the name of that town for me berea . Caller there is a berea, ohio, berea, kentucky, and one in california, but it is not pronounced the same. I enjoy your show, listening to the folks calling in. I dont have a real long well i do a real long monologue, but you dont have time to listen to that. , switched from a democratic being a democrat here in kentucky to an independent, and probably will switch to republican. I was 213 years old, years old in okinawa, guam, and 1968, and watched the politics over the years. Have been pretty astute in theett following issues we have had in the late ands, 1970s and 1980s, we are more divided now than i can ever remember in my life. When i went through boot camp, andad this ti, in the Army Marine Corps they call them the he reiterateds, the real purpose of pledging loyalty to the constitution. The constitution that he conveyed to us, it is a pact. To bring all citizens together as members of the same family. Weve got to, now three parties two, now three parties that are essentially being investigated against each other by the media. It is sad to see us go down this path. Weve all got to educate ourselves, and choose our own choices. I just dont believe anything the Mainstream Media spews out anymore for the sake of trying to garner eyeballs. Callingts go to don, from sacramento, california on the democratic line. Good morning. Caller yeah man, i cannot understand it. It sounds like it is a big stockholm syndrome and all of , brainwasheding and everything. These republicans are just not listening to anything. I am listening to these people and they come online and dont even talk about nothing that this man did. They are completely on his side, no matter what he does, because they are not listening to what hes doing. They are listening to fox news and they are not showing anything. They do not show nothing negative about trump, so they dont see any negative thing about him. With this stockholm syndrome it is like the ways in the past with hitler and andin and willie lynch, then we had jim jones. Now we have donald trump. Hes got all these people just brainwashed, out of their mind, man. If they start switching from democrat to republican, until they found out that all these black people were for barack obama. That is why they hate him so much, because all the blacks voted for him, now all the whites are going to vote for trump so they can get back at barack obama. It is so ridiculous, man. These people what country are they from . Host lets talk to jack, calling from bloomfield, new jersey on the republican line. Good morning. Morning. Ood listen public enemy said it best 30 years ago dont believe the hype here in the Washington Post, they are saying now that Bernie Sanders has russian support, it is the same old tired or that my man darrell darrellhat from ohio said earlier they are trying to push out from because he is not part of their establishment. Neither is sanders. Seth ridge, the only unsolved border of a white man in d. C. That year, he is the reason you have this we can come out, not through wikileaks or the russians. Connect the dots. Host lets go to wallace, calling from kentucky on the independent line. Wallace, good morning. Caller good morning my brother, how are you . Host im fine, go ahead. Caller well, i am sad to say that i live in the communist world of america. I love my country. I thought my country was great. If you go around, people are talking about what donald has done. Look at what bill clinton has done in the oval office. Look at what barack obama did, spent 15. 6 trillion public dollars you can look at the on what the people in america dont believe in. What did he do great . Mention one thing that he did great. He did nothing great but take advantage of this country. He milked it down. Look at the two houses he bought, and you will see what he is doing. He did nothing for america. Host lets go to charlotte, calling from tuscaloosa, alabama on the democratic line. Charlotte, good morning. Caller good morning, cspan. Im calling in because of this ng with trump and russia what i have to say is, if you caucus, what ismp is really trying to do continuously divide this country, black against white, anything of color, and i really feel like he does not want any people of color in this country because of the proposals and everything all you have to do is watch this man. See what he is doing. Not hear what he says. The last thing i want to say, get putin and trump out of the white house. Thank you. Host lets go to barbara, calling from winter haven, florida on the republican line. Good morning. I want to say that i have a nephew that married a onatian girl how that get host are you there . Caller yes. Host go ahead. Caller i have a nephew that married a girl from croatia. If they want to know about socialism and communism, they should talk to her. How they have to dante rooms to live in how they had two rooms to live in are you still there . Host i am. Go ahead. Days withoutwent eating. Socialism is one step from communism. Anybody if they want to go and investigate somebody, going get hillary go and get hillary. And if they really want to stop the illegals without having to put them someplace, when they come over, they get no money, they get if they want their children to go to school, let them pay. Then our kids will not be in trailers anymore. Thank you. Going to wrap up with brenda, calling from winston, oregon on the independent line. Brenda, good morning. Caller good morning. Yeah, how did you know i was in winston . Thats funny. Anyway, im calling because, you know, both sides, republicans and democrats, i never see any of the democrats hanging around with the russians. This time again, it is going to happen all over again with the russians meddling with our america. We dont need this, you know . Trump i can do what i want that is horrible. He is a horrible president , and i would like to see bernie when. Bernie win. Thank you. Host we would like to thank all of our colors for calling in from the top of the hour for our conversation on the Washington Post story, saying russia was meddling with Bernie Sanders campaign. Up next, joseph antos and josh bivens will discuss the role health care is playing in campaign 2020. Later on Associated Press , reporter Michelle Price will discuss the 2020 Nevada Democratic caucuses. We will be right back. Join us today at 6 00 eastern for the result of the bat the Iowa Caucuses. We have candidate speeches from joe biden, senators Bernie Sanders, Amy Klobuchar, and lisbeth moran, Pete Buttigieg, and tom steyer. Cspan, orge on listen live. This we and on americans or tv, a lecture from North Carolina chapter hill on 1960s. And a look at slavery in the nations capital. Tonight at 8 00 eastern on lectures in history. North carolina professor williams turkey on equal rights in the 1960s. The 1960s were characterized by this incredible sense of optimism and hope. 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Explore the american story and watch American History tv on cspan three. Washington journal continues. Host we are back, starting a discussion about health care and campaign 2020. Antos,joined by joseph the health care and retirement policy scholar, and josh bivens, director of research at the Economic Policy institute. Thank you for being here. Josh, health care is an issue in the nevada caucuses, but the medicaid for all proposal seems to be running into a bit of opposition from the Culinary Union. Whats this about . Guest i think the debate is about a couple of things, there is widespread agreement, at least among democrats, maybe wider, that the Health Care System could stand for improvement. We have an incredibly expensive Health Care System, but it does not deliver very good Health Outcomes, theres huge room for improvement. I think the Bernie Sanders plan is for a big bang once and for all move to a medicare for all system where there is a single pair, the federal government, it replaces all other forms of insurance. And i think theres a lot of economic merit to that if you could wave a wand and have us in that system. I think lots of things could be better. Political,stacle is specifically the 106 million americans now who have insurance and are very change averse. They are wondering i had this today and you are going to replace it with something else, im worried about that. The Culinary Service in particular has a good employerbased plan and i think they are worried about anything that would threaten that. What you think the debate is about joe . Guest there isnt much of a debate, people dont want to pay higher taxes, bernies claim that it will be ok that you are paying higher taxes because your saving money on Health Insurance may or may not be true but most people dont trust the government that much. As far as the culinary workers are concerned, they are not typical of middleclass americans with good coverage. They dont want to lose their good coverage, they know what and they are a little concerned about having to make a change that might actually interfere with their medical care. Host josh, remind our viewers exactly what medicare for all would look like. What would it look like and what is it . Guest thats a good and open question, medicare refers to the system we have now, and almost Single Player payer plan for people over 65, we have some private Health Insurance competition in the existing medicare system. Most plans would actually just have one payer who would be the federal government, who would be different from existing medicare with much lower copays and deductibles. Probably the best analog is the medicare plan that canada has, which is a Single Player single payer plan. The sanders plan is much more generous. The details are to be worked out, the general thought is that everybody gets insurance not through their employer or paying private Insurance Companies to get it, you just pay taxes and the federal government provides medical care. That is the root insight. Host how much would this cost . Guest thats a good question. The most likely estimate is more than we are now paying in total for health care. Were estimates of bernies original plan which were put into legislation that came in at 33 trillion over 10 years. This of additional federal spending. But the better way to think about it is how much in total will be spent on health care . Elizabeth warren was quite honest, he spend about 55 trillion over the next 10 years and if you add everything up, she basically said you save a but 55bit of money, trillion is not an unreasonable guess. Especially we dont have a plan that improves the efficiency of the health system, thats what theyre not talking about. Host and with the nevada caucuses being today, this is one of the issues thats actually going on. The New York Times actually focused on health care in one of their stories today and im going to read a little bit from it and ask you to react. Against mr. Sanders illustrates a growing trend and the urgency of democratic rivals inut winning the most votes a consecutive contest next thursday, if no democrat votes for mr. Sanders in the caucuses here, he could gather unstoppable momentum heading into super tuesday. But the offensive against a vermont senator also highlighted some of the most glaring vulnerabilities, the Culinary Union, representing many workers in Las Vegas Casinos as opposed to a singlepayer plan. After leaders stated that the opposition was met with the sort personalg and invective that critics of mr. Sander often received. The Culinary Union is 60,000 members strong, and it is perhaps the most powerful force in Democratic Politics in this state and theres no benefits its members cherish more than the Health Care Coverage they in contract negotiations. For then thats the key issue in an 800 pound gorilla, says event at democrat who serves as the governor and senator. My first question, joe, is a Justice Union that feels this way or are there other groups out there come other democrats were also worried about changes in their Health Care Plan . Thet i think its universal view. People are really concerned about their health and their Health Insurance, and be able to enforce what is in in afford increasingly good care for good conduct for conditions but is expensive. Everybodys concerned, particularly its an issue for all democrats plans. They are basically slogan. Word medicare is all most irrelevant, it has nothing to do with the Medicare Program in terms of benefits in the way the thing would be structured. The question is what is it . Nobody knows, you really will not know until whatever democrat is lucky enough to be the nominee and is actually elected, thats when you begin to find out what the details are. Thats what a reasonable person should be worried about. Theres a bait and switch politicians all engage in and i think we are in that stage. Host josh . Guest i think theres a hunger out there for something for Health Reform. Health care is something that americans worry about the most, not just their health but would means for Financial Security and that worry is wellplaced. We have a uniquely dysfunctional Health Care System. We spend on a per capita basis about 10,000 per person, we have some great Health Systems in the world, number one in terms of Health Outcomes as france and the netherlands who spend literally half of what we spend. One of the reasons why a singlepayer plan would be expensive is because we still have 27 million uninsured people and 15 million underinsured people. So it would be more expensive to give health care to people who need it, but thats the virtue of a fundamental reform. You keep cost down by keeping people excluded, thats not the way to go. Host you seem to have something to say. Guest everyone should have Health Insurance but the reason my bernies plan and elizabeth is so expensive is havetheir plans would people not paying premiums, not paying copayments, not paying coinsurance and adding a lot of very desirable benefits that are not covered in this country but anywhere else in the world. What theyre talking about is something that has nothing to do with developed countries in europe. You might call it american exceptionalism, except its exceptionally dangerous from a physical standpoint, to make all those promises and then find out you cant deliver. Host let me remind our viewers that they can take part in this conversation as well. We are opening up our regular phone lines. For republicans 202 7488001, for democrats 202 7488000, for independents 202 7488002. And keep in mind you can always , andus at 202 7488003 we are always reading on social media, at twitter and facebook. At wednesday nights debate, senator sanders responded to the friction around his Health Care Plan. Heres what he had to say. [video clip] very clear, two points. For 100 years, from Teddy Roosevelt to barack obama this country has been talking about the need to guarantee health care for all people. Yet today, despite spending twice as much per capita, chuck, twice as much. As any other major country on earth, we have 87 billion who underinsured. Or 60,000 people dying because they dont get to a doctor on time. We are getting ripped off, outrageously, by the greed and corruption of the pharmaceutical industry, which in some cases charges us 10 times more for the same drug because of their pricefixing. 500,000 people go bankrupt every year because they cannot afford medical bills. So let me be very clear to my good friend in the culinary workers union, a great union. I will never sign a bill that will reduce the Health Care Benefits they have. We will only expand it for them, for every union in america, and for the working class of this country. Host joe, reaction senator sanders. Guest one of the things i picked up is the old claim that he and Elizabeth Warren have been pushing for quite some time, that we have a large number of people who are bankrupt because of medical cost. Thats not true. It is true that many people who face bankruptcy have medical bills, but thats not what is driving them into bankruptcy. Bykruptcy is largely caused other kinds of debt, credit card education loans, mortgage loans, even for people who are uninsured, we are not talking about a whole years worth of healthcare costs, thats what bernie is playing against. Up 10e not likely to rack or 20,000 worth of medical debt , you are much more likely to rack up 50,000 to 60,000. Host josh . Guest when you look at the u. S. Versus developed countries and why are health care is so expensive, its not because we consume a lot more. We dont go to the doctor much more than other advanced countries, we dont stay in hospital longer have a lot more m. R. I. s. Everything just costs more in the United States. Thats because of the Pricing Power of a lot of the key providers in the health care complex, pharmaceutical companies, consolidated hospital chains, some thing that pushes back on that market power of the providers is really needed. We know the existing medicare system does a better job of pushing back on that pricing then private insurance does, the ideas lets bring that logic to the overall american Health Care System to contain costs better by actually providing some bargaining leverage against those really powerful providers in the Health Care Center that push up prices. Thats a fundamental insight. , is i have to ask you both there candidates Health Care Plan that you both or either one of you supports . Is there an idea out there that you can get behind . Joe . Guest not among the democrats. Be closest to reality would the various Democratic Candidates who talk about a public option. Buttigieg calls it medicare for all who wanted. The problem for that is that the government does not bargain. The government regulates. The reason why that kind of plan would save money is because it would upset prices. Option, itslic supposed to mean that i could keep my private insurance. But private Insurance Companies dont have the benefit of being able to charge anything they want. They in fact do negotiate, they may not negotiate well, i will grant you that, but they do not have government power. This public option idea would a governmente singlepayer plan because private plans would not be able to exist. Then you go back to the political problem for democrats, that the unions would say wait a minute this is not so good. Host josh . Guest im pretty ecumenical, i could get behind most of them. In my mind if i could pick a system just out of the blue and make it happen as a dictator, thing like a singlepayer plan would be something i would choose. I worry about the politics of getting there. I agree that a lot of americans are nervous and change averse. I think we eat and expectations down so low about the Health Security they can expect that if they have any they are worried about changing it. Gettingttle weary about behind maximalist right out of the gate plan, thats where i would like to end up. If we can make any step forward, the aca was a nice step forward, its not where i wanted to end up, but maybe my expectations have been beaten down as well it i want Movement Forward to make Health Reform cheaper and improve access. Host is not just you, according to a political Harvard University pole, lowering the cost of health care is the number one priority for voters going into 2020. 80 of people polled say that priority,number one and its a clear majority in both parties. 76 ofdemocrats and republicans say that was there number one priority. Wase number two priority lowering the cost of prescription drugs. Overall, three fourths of americans support lowering the with 85 the drug cost of democrats saying if there number two priority and 69 of republicans. Thats coming out of the politico harvard school. It seems like everyones top priority is health care and prescription drugs. Are we hearing enough about these issues from the candidates . Are we talking enough about this . Guest i dont think so. I would say couple things, the per strip should drug she was also limiting in that there are a lot of things, i dont even want to call them incremental, but things short of singlepayer that we could do, steps that would provide a lot of relief. One of them is to do something about prescription drugs, theres a few bills in congress floating around that would give medicare much more leverage in negotiating or regulating prices with the pharmaceutical company. I think that would be very key. And i think we should talk more about what we know worked from the Affordable Care act. Theres a big expansion of medicaid in the Affordable Care act, which is a public payer system, a Single Player singlepayer system. You saw big benefits and health, but also Financial Security. You see a large reduction in evictions in states that adopted medicaid versus those that didnt. So the Health Care Debate thats andening is very high level about this medicare for all gay or nay, which not be the only question. We should also be thinking about the steps that would provide a lot of release. Guest theres a real good political reason why the democratic pan candidates dont want to talk about costs. And the reason is that they dont have solutions. Not only that, if youre talking about it the way that josh is thinking about it and the way bernie is thinking about it, this is a threat to some of their biggest donors. Some of the biggest donors are in the health sector. If you are trying to run an election, you need that money. And you dont want to talk about dont want to upset your donor base. You just want to say it be ok. Thats the message so far. What we are not talking about is really preliminary to a real proposal. We are not even up to super tuesday and we are not gonna know much about what a serious proposal is until we get a candidate from the Democratic Party, and probably until we get a president. Host lets let our viewers join in on this conversation pray lets start with eric, in california on the democrat line. Good morning. Caller good morning america. Like to talk about that 800 pound gorilla in the room. Mentality america has where tothink a job is required Access Health care, so the unions are negotiating health care contracts. At what point in time at one point in time, we will have to stop thinking that the employer is required to pay for the Health Care System. Its a good question and we do need to sit down and have this conversation and realize what the situation we are dealing with is. Evenu look at the numbers, the guy from the american Health Care System, he admits that the bernie plan, even if they dont know that it would be a whole lot cheaper, but then they use the scare that it will take away from the 187 Million People that have negotiated their health care through contracts and through their employer. Joe . , maybepart of the issue we did get off on the wrong foot , we got off on the wrong foot 1940s and in the the 1950s with Strong Movement as we were a Manufacturing Society at that time. That has historical basis. I dont think employers necessarily have any particular advantage in negotiating with Insurance Companies or anyone else over Health Insurance because most employers are not in the business, thats why they hire Insurance Companies. But the government isnt very good at it either. So really i think the question is how do we transition to a system where there is real competition and downward that areon prices sustainable. We should keep in mind that everything in this country cost a lot more than every other country because its a wealthy country. We have to accept that. The question is where do we want to go with that. The government can often get it wrong. Host josh . Guest a key inside that the caller made is the linkage between jobs and health care. Its unhealthy and bad. You have a lot of people in the u. S. Economy may want to go out on their own and start a small business. Maybe they want to work for themselves, but they think, its really hard to get health care when i do that, so i will stay with this Large Employer with a stable Health Care Plan and it creates a job block that keeps people from doing what they want and starting new businesses. Thats a real problem. Like medicare for all which dlinks jobs and health care would be good. And when jobs and health care are bundled that means you can lose your health care at any point when you lose your job and you get a lot of people fighting for against med care for all pens plan saying if you like your current plan you can keep it. We cant guarantee that anyone. Your employer can always fire you, lay you off, go bankrupt, deciding laterally they are changing plans and you dont get to keep it. I understand the change aversion, i understand i have something today and im worried about losing it but even under the Current System youre very much in danger of losing it. With jobs andg health care, that should be a real priority. The and lets add in on politico and Harvard University poll, the idea of instituting medicare for all got a majority survey said in the they support medicare for all. But when you break it down to parties, you see the big difference. Under democrats, democrats were 71 for a medicare for all system. But only 29 of republicans were for instituting a Medicare Fraud system. So thats going to be a political battle. Guest absolutely right, its a battle of slogans. Republicans dont seem to have a slogan. Eventually they will get one. The problem here, medicare for all is a phrase that does not tell you what it really is. Bernies plan is fiscally impractical. The question is what do you end up with . The problem to be that eventually will have to be addressed, to some extent, once there are two candidates and they are arguing with each other more seriously later this year. Host josh, half of americans say they like the idea of medicare for all, but its a big Political Division. Where do we go . Guest its a good question. Its the same Political Division you see in every other issue when you polarize democrats and republicans. Majority,hat its a even 30 of republicans supporting it attests to a couple of things. I think attests to the popularity of the current Medicare Program, people know it, they are on it or they have a relative on it and they find it better than a World Without medicare. We should see that and build on it. And it shows again what i think is the hunger for really fundamental Health Reform. Time,k about this all the im worried about my health and how much my income this is sucking up, and yet im not getting the services i want, so i thing theres a reason why health care generally is such a salient political issue. Its organic, coming from people, policymakers should he do that and do something. Host mayor Pete Buttigieg took a man and his medicare for all and heresroposal what he had to say. [video clip] im less concerned about the lack of transparency on his personal health and how to pay for his Health Care Plans. He says its impossible to even know how much is going to cost. And even after raising taxes on people making 29,000 there is still a multi trillion dollar hole. If you add up his policies altogether they come to 50 trillion. Hes only slain 25 trillion of revenue, which means that the hole is a bigger is bigger than the size of the economy. Senator sanders, quickly. Lets level. Under your plan, a continuation of the status quo, the average american today is paying 12,000 a year. A 60,000 income. 12,000 a year. Day a major study came out from yale , in one of the leading medical publications in the world. What they said is medicare for 450 billion a year. Because we are eliminating the absurdity of thousands of separate plans that require hundreds of billions of dollars of administration and by the way, entering the hundred billion a year of profiteering for the drug companies. [everyone talking over each other. ] if my plan is the status quo why wasnt attacked by the Insurance Industry the moment it came out . On issue after issue, this is what senator sanders is saying, if you are not all the way on his side, then you must be for the status quo. Thats a picture that leaves most of the American People out. Host once again, it seems like the idea of medicare is supported by americans but we are still halfandhalf on the idea of medicare for all. Politicok to the Harvard University poll, there was 59 support for letting americans buy into medicare if they want. Once again you have the Political Division. Liking thatrats idea, but only 43 of republicans like the idea letting americans buy into medicare they want. People oneople know medicare and they like medicare, but there is that Political Division of letting people buy into medicare. Josh . Guest the encouraging thing to me is that they are even closer. Ogether its a less radical policy, it does honors change aversion and iu can buy in if you want, will say that the red herring, but i think was brought up in the clips between Pete Buttigieg and Bernie Sanders, you talk about costs, the vast majority of the costs we are paying now, the question is how. Today we pay for lots of Health Care Costs through employer premiums that instead of going to wages or some other Employee Benefit go to purchasing Health Insurance. Outofpocket costs, a Medicare Fraud plan were all plan rearranges how the cuts are made common set of premiums they are taxes. So i think the debate moved into who is paying rather than how much that would be useful. Guest i agree with josh, theyre not really talking about the real numbers and this demonstrates the politicians and they dont mix well. Said 50 trillion is the entire economy which is kind of laughable. Its wrong when you come to the numbers. You could generate a good number for yourself if you make the right assumptions. Doesnt mean the assumptions are correct. Thats a big part of the debate. As far as people liking the name for medicare, yes they like the name medicare. Most people in this country really dont know much about it. Medicare is not a good benefit, thats the big secret to people over 65. If you have a Serious Health care inn and you need the hospital its limited. Fees, copayments, this is complicated. This is why for close to 40 of medicare beneficiaries, signing up for private plans under medicare advantage, they work a heck of a lot better than traditional medicare. That is probably the direction that mayor petes plan would go. Host lets get our callers back into this conversation, lets go , from manchester, connecticut, on the independent line. Caller good morning. I have some comments on two things that mr. Antos mentioned, one is that the government will not bargain with the Insurance Companies. They can if they want to, they are the government, and they did bargain with drug pricing. The dnc is beholden to big moneyed interests, corporations and individuals, so now they have no idea what to do as far as a Health Care Plan and they will be against anything that Bernie Sanders plans because they are taking money from those industries. Acc, thethink the Obamacare Program was a bureaucratic nightmare. People that do not qualify for medicaid could not afford to pay for insurance and still ended up uninsured and it was millions of people. Large, andthat are wellorganized, yes they can bargain for good medical care. But they have to make exchanges for that. They had to take cuts and pay, we belong to union we know what thats like, they will give you eyeglass coverage but we cannot give you a step increase. It shouldnt be that way. You should not have to do that. It would be a lot easier for unions to bargain for better Vacation Time and pay if they did not have to deal with medicare. Host josh lets start with you. Guest i have a more favorable view of the aca than the caller, parts of it were excessively bureaucratic, a lesson that i learned from the aca and a lot of democrats have learned is that it was a very straightforward Medicaid Expansion, medicaid is a single payer public plan and it was setting up a new complicated system of exchanges with private insurers. The Medicaid Expansion has worked better. Exchanges have worked, people forget how bad the individual market was before the aca. For me this excitement the shining success is the Medicaid Expansion. Springe out when the Court Decision said states do not have to adopt it, by the end of 2020 at think we will be up to 37 states, they are falling like dominoes. Its a good benefit, it provides a lot of useful things to the people in those states. It improves health, reduces medical debt by 1200 in Medicaid Expansion versus those that did not expand. Going forward, thats part of the enthusiasm for more fundamental singlepayer roles in health care. You look at what happened in the aca and the public expansion worked well, its politically popular, durable, the rest is a mixed bag, i think quite positive but i think next time that democrats take a stab at Health Reform they will rely on a straightforward big expansion singlepayer model. Host joe . Guest it shouldnt be confusing why states expanded medicaid after the supreme Court Decision. It was the money. Josh, all of the states will essentially sign up, but its not because of some belief in the greater good. But because theyre so much federal dollars there. State politicians are politicians as well. They are concerned about making sure that the hospitals who see people who might not have insurance are taken care of. This is one way to do it. On the federal dime, rather than on the state time. That makes sense. As far as my statement about government bargaining. What im trying to say is that the government sets prices. Crypticallyentioned the veterans and ministration health plan and their drug program, they are not bargaining. Toy have a Legal Authority set prices at certain levels. AlsoLegal Authority has been expanded to the medicaid program, and to some extent the Medicare Program is also glommed onto this. This is actually driven list prices for the rest of us up. A large part of the problem is through the regulatory actions of the government, the rest of us who are nodding Government Programs are paying a lot more for drugs. Look at comments from social media followers. One tweet says people want medicare for all until they realize they have to pay for it. Steve, in florida, who says no new Health Care Plan could possibly be as bad as what we have now. My biggest fear is no change. Albert says i support medicare for all but we have to be honest, the only reason other developed countries were able to singlepayer is because they did not allow the private Insurance Industry to grow to 1 6 of their economy. And mark tweets sin, Preventative Care is going to save money. We have shifted and i want to get into it, talking about the Affordable Care act, known as obamacare. The Harvard University pole did , when he came to repealing and replacing the Affordable Care act, there was 37 support for appealing and replacing the Affordable Care of, 40 of democrats, 37 republicans said that they would approve. But theres another story coming out of the hill that says the Affordable Care acts favorability hit a record high in a new poll released on friday. Highlighting the shifting clinical view around the law. A Kaiser Family Foundation Poll found that 55 of the public viewed the health law favorably. The highest level since they began pulling the question about 10 years ago. 37 say they view it unfavorably. Obamacare was long viewed more favorably than favorably, especially during the troubled rollout of the healthcare. Gov website. But that change with President Trump selection with favorability rising amid the republican push to repeal the law in 2017. Obamacare, lets start with you the how will this play in election . How is it playing . Guest i dont understand why the candidates seem to want to dismantle obamacare one way or another. Certainly medicare for all would completely dismantle the program , medicare for some would do it more slowly but it would do it. Even joe bidens plan, which is pretty unclear, would make changes that would be disruptive for some people who get benefits out of the Affordable Care act. So its a little puzzling. But the reason i think that favorability has grown over 10 years is just human nature. Once it is part of the , youstructure, and it is see it has not appeared to affect you negatively, you say thats ok, because it did not affect me negatively. And for the people who got benefits, thats ok. But its basically familiarity breeding a certain amount of success in this country and everywhere else. The fact is, its part of the infrastructure no matter what republicans say or democrats say. Its not going anywhere. Insurance companies have invested a lot to make it work. They and the government are really not interested to making gigantic changes to disrupt that structure. Growing in popularity, its not a shock to me. Mostly because like i said earlier, i dont think americans concerns about health care have been foisted on them by politicians, they are organic. People want help with health care cost, they wanted that help when the aca debate began in 2009. It was a big step forward in helping people. Thats why its popular. And responded to an actual organic demand. I dont think it fully responded to it, a good step forward, it cut the rate of the uninsured by about half. Other half get the with fundamental Health Reform. And i think the missing ingredient in the aca was good on coverage expansion and Medicaid Expansion providing a lot of relief like joe mentioned , rural hospitals have been a huge beneficiaries of obamacare a huge beneficiary of obamacare. It is 75 higher, closing hospitals, and states that did not take medicare expansion. It provided a lot of relief but they are demanding more. One thing left off the table on the aca was the direct confrontation with the price setting power of big players in the health care sector, drugmakers, device makers, forprofit hospital changes chains. Thats the next step in fundamental Health Reform. Thats why the aca is more of a steppingstone to fundamental Health Reform, not something torn up and replaced. Biden and Michael Bloomberg sparred over the aca during the debate. Heres that conversation. [video clip] im a fan of obamacare. Mr. Vice president , i just checked the record, because you in own nine i testified and gave a speech inore the mayors conference washington, advocating it and trying to get all the mayors to sign on. At that time i wrote an article praising obamacare, it was either in the New York Post or the daily news. Let me finish, thank you. It, i did not of think it would go as far as we should. What trump has done to this is a disgrace to the first thing we have to do is get to the white house and bring back those things that were left and find ways to expand it, and public option, having rules about capping charges, all of those things to read we should not walk away and start something totally new, or untried. The mayor said, when we passed it, the signature piece of this administration is a disgrace. Those exact words. It was a disgrace. Look it up. And under this plan you dont have surprise billing and it brings down drug prices. And he gives people all the things we were just talking about, i suppose we dont have time to do it. Host like you said, there seems to be conversation on who was where on the Affordable Care act. Guest this just demonstrates that anything a politician says will eventually come back and bite them. That was a meaningless conversation. Host josh . Guest a couple things. I think the Affordable Care act has become more popular over time so i think its natural for people who may have criticized it in real time now want to get on the bandwagon. And in the poll you showed before, it was 40 acrosstheboard who was in favor of repeal and replace, not that different for democrats and republicans. My strong guess is that democrats saying that just want to do something even more fundamental than the aca, where republicans just want to scrap it and walk away. I think that shows the hunger for going even beyond what the aca did. I think we can forget how bad the world was before the aca. We had doubled the amount of uninsured people, we had people in the individual market who did not get insurance through a job. The individual market was the wild west, you could pay for a plan for years, get sick and they could just go nope. They called it rescissions on they could walk away and not pay. So the degree to which the aca made life better, now that its almost 10 years on, i think people take that as the always existing status quo, and its not. It makes things better. Lets get a few of our calls in. Lets go to linda host lets get a few calls and before the end of the hour, lets go to linda, in ohio come on the republican line. Caller i think people want to keep obamacare and they should keep it. If there are people who can be insured, i think they should try to work with it. I dont believe they should have been charged for not having insurance on that, but i think they should work with it. Medicare for all, when i turned 55 i went on medicare rate i had to get supplement insurance because medicare does not pay for a lot of things. Orthopedic surgeon, he did not even want the supplemental because its connected with medicare when you are over 65. Im very happy with my insurance, it has not doubled in three years and its a very good insurance. Lucky, why cant they work out something where they keep obamacare, let them work with that, a raise my insurance and that kind of upset me but if it gives other People Insurance that they like, and i know a lot of people lost their doctors. Its connected with medicare, we know that. I think democrats and republicans should Work Together, dont demolish a bolling obamacare, if people like it, work with it and let people keep their insurance that they like. She has niece on ssi, better insurance than i have an greater care than i can get and i worked all my life. So i wonder what these two men think about working with obamacare and let People Insurance that they want. Linda let me interrupt because i have a question, you said that when obamacare came out your insurance doubled but its been stable since . Or did you change insurances where you did not have to pay double . Caller i have had the same insurance since ive retired, you go on medicare when you retire because i lost my insurance that i paid for. So i had to go to medicare. When i went to medicare i realized it was nothing to pay for anything so i went to prime time and it pays a lot. Obama did double when went in after i turned 65. I went from 100 25, i pay 225 now. And for the last three years it has stayed the same and i had the same coverage. People want obamacare and if it works, they want to keep it. Guest mccullers talking about obamacare, which i said earlier, medicare is not a good plan. Most people in the traditional Medicare Program either purchased whats often called plan. Digap they might be covered if they are low income. The fact is, theres a lot of holes in the Medicare Program. Thats not what the democrats are talking about. Lets hope were not talking about that seriously for anybody. Is afterare program the first problem. We have to talk about how we are going to fix that program to make it more efficient, and make it provide some Financial Coverage for seniors. Its the only insurance in this country that does not have a limit on the amounts that people have to pay out of pocket if they run into catastrophic cross costs. Host josh . Guest i am more than halfway in agreement with joe on this. We should improve medicare. People not on it might think of it as a singlepayer plan, it does not, theres a lot of gaps in coverage. Part of medicare, when you enter theyou enter a system like plans people by our very highly regulated by the government and its very transparent, what you are getting. So even the parts of medicare that are not a traditional benefit, theres a lot of ,egulations and rules in place and the people cannot afford the medigap plans theres Wraparound Coverage available to them for medicaid and other programs. But we should make existing medicare quite a bit better, especially if we will hold it up as a model that everybody could provide everyone. Saidmebody came to me and the First Priority should be to make existing medicare quite a bit more protective, i would cosign that. In washington, d. C. , on the democrat line. Good morning. Caller good morning. Is that i think these two gentlemen are too closely aligned on the same path as opposed to being true opposition. What i would have preferred is if you had maybe one of those eel researchers who basically stated how much money would be those yale researchers basically stated how much money would be saved on a Medicare Fraud program. They clearly state that this andd be significant savings by virtue of limit naming eliminating bureaucratic costs and drug prices. We have one of the Worst Health Care outcomes of all of not even industrialized nations, but cuba and guatemala also spend less with significantly better Health Outcomes. They live longer and have Better Health cap Health Outcomes all the way around. This are to be having conversation, lets have a real debate with opposing positions. As opposed to im a little opposed to what he said but i stuffhere, where is that is crazy or unworkable as opposed to this is what we can do if we pool our resources together to get government working efficiently and possibly do better. Agree that you dont disagree enough . Guest we are being polite. [laughter] guest i would say we fundamentally disagree, i would characterize joshs view in a big fan ofs hes a singlepayer and believes the government can set payment rates that will not cause the markets cause people to lose access to their doctor and services, and will not cause a slowdown or stoppage in medical progress in this country. I on the other hand am concerned about all of those things prayed i worked in the government for a long time. Fors part of the Center Medicare and medicaid services, involved in instituting various Payment Schemes that did not work out that well in the Medicare Program. In the kind ofed toitical willingness continue to press down on prices. Thats really the big defect of saying the government is going to save us money by controlling prices. We have had plenty of experiences in the medicare has faced,e congress and i dont expect that Political Behavior to change, no matter how much anyone might wanted to. Host do you agree with his disagreements . Guest thats about right. We disagree plenty. If i was in charge of everything we would have a singlepayer system, i do think theres a balance about how hard you push down on the prices being charged for things like drugs and device makers and physicians, making sure theres enough supply to see people who are sick. When i look at the world around us, it seems to me lots of other rich countries manage this through a more centralized and regulated system and they seem to be Getting Better Health Outcomes for better money. I agree that the past history of the u. S. Has been discouraging in that regard, because we have had a political system thats unwilling to confront powerful price setters in the medical sector. But i think at some point we have to do that. Around see an end rund the fundamental political problem that need to be confronted. I think singlepayer would be the most efficient way to go. The question is how do we get there given the political blockages . Im an economist, i dont know that. Thats the system i want and i dont know how to get there. Florida, on the independent line. Good morning. Caller good morning. Economist,u are an and you are youre talking about a medicare for all plan and you say i dont know how to get there, what are you doing all day, the yale study just came out and said we are going to sing 460 billion a year. Thats 5 trillion over 10 years. Away onhrowing money health care administration, insurance, profit, things like that. The Insurance Industry, the United Health care stock price is 300 a share because its a moneymaking scheme. Early on your the guy you are the guy who would want singlepayer but right when the show opened you said we will put the government in charge of your medical care. You know singlepayer is noncharge of your medical care, its in charge of your medical insurance. Thats a huge thing. Joe has been talking politics the whole time with scare tactics. Its like look america, we are ,eing robbed by this industry and its costing us not only in billions of extra dollars a year , its costing us in lives. Host josh . Guest i did say the government would be in charge of your care you ares wrong, correct, thats not what medicare probably is. There are countries where there is direct medical care, theres the National Health service in united kingdom, and that works well too. In terms of what im doing all day, i dont know how to get to singlepayer, politically. I talk about it, the economic virtues, i dont think thats enough. The idea that all you have to do is have about a politician have a politician like Bernie Sanders, charismatic and tells people all the time, i think, largely correctly, there is virtues to singlepayer but we are not quite there yet in terms of having the political will to run it through. So what am i doing . I go on cspan and try to make an economic case. If somebody new politically had to get something this big done with the snap of their fingers, they be genius and run the world. We are not there yet. Host joe question mark scare tactics . Guest not at all. The fact is that people should be scared and concerned about costs. This is precisely what the democrats are talking about and for that matter the republicans are not good at it either. The are talking about serial ideas, theyre not talking about practical policies , thats been true for all of the time since 2009. The entire focus has been on expanding coverage and cost be dammed. And the other point that the caller raised was about whether the government would be in charge of your health care. The fact is that the Medicare Program does make coverage decisions. Under a medicare for all program there would still be coverage decisions, you would have to decide in individual cases whether a particular very expensive treatment was appropriate. Those decisions are going to be made if you go to joshs system or not. Theres no way around it. So the idea that the government would be totally handsoff misses the fiscal point. The government cannot be handsoff. Host this has been a great conversation. I would like to thank you both for being here. Josh bivens and joe antos. Thank you for being here today. Coming up, more of your calls and comments about the nevada caucuses, and campaign 2020. We will use our regular line, we will also specifically ask for nevada voters to tell us what you are thinking and seeing. Priceter on, michelle will be on the ground discussing todays 2020 Nevada Democratic caucuses. Interviewsnewsmakers tim chapman. They can about how work to get conservative policies from the trumpet ministration. He describes the president and what could be done for voters who are tired of administrative turmoil. Mind thisep in interview will be happening this sunday on cspan. You can also be here for cspan made io radio and watch online at cspan. Org. The highest turnover of any modern presidency in this covenant. Even supporters of the president saying that the two weeks are corrosive and dividing the country. What do you tell voters who say, things are good, but i dont want four more years of this . A lot of that will matter who the democratic nominee is. I dont deny that there are voters who say that. I have seen the polling. This country is split right now. It is split between 46 of people who will vote for democrats no matter who the nominee is, and i think the number could come down if they nominate bernie or Something Like that, and the numbers are Something Like 36 were going to vote for the what, theno matter there is 13 that love his policies and are willing to vote for the president , but may have reservations about things like you have mentioned. The task for the party is to go and talk to that 13 and say, look, this, the results you see right now, they are not guaranteed to continue. And in fact, if the democrats are putting up a socialist, the economy will go in the opposite direction. That is what it comes down to, making the case for those. I am not denying that the dynamic exists, i have seen it, but there is a case to be made in a path forward here to ensure that these results continue on. I dont think the president is going to stop tweeting. I really dont. Comments, bill barrs first thing i thought was, this shows that people who have gained the president cozy trust can be publicly critical. I thought that was interesting to see that, that was a good thing. Maybe the president will treat a little less about what is going on in the d. O. J. Because of that. But he hasnt. You are right. Why int, but that is said, you are not going to stop the president s tweet. There is a downside to it. The upside to it is that he actually communicates with people in real time. So you take the good and you take the bad. The conservative policy movement, our job is to make sure conservative policies continue to get enacted. Washington journal continues. Host once again, we open our phone lines to you. We want to know what you are thinking about campaign 2020, and the nevada caucuses that start today. Keep in mind, cspan will have the latest from the nevada remarksic caucuses and on the candidates, starting live at 6 00 p. M. Eastern on cspan, cspan. Org, and on the free cspan radio app. Once again, our allies are best lines are open to you. Republicans, 2027488001, democrats, 2027488000, independence, 2027488002. We will open up a special line this morning. Since you are going out to caucus, we want to hear from our nevada voters. Your special line will be 2027488003. Once again, for nevada voters in todays caucuses, your phone number will be 2027488003. Keep in mind, you can also text that number at 2027488003. We are also on social media and twitter cspanwj and on facebook at facebook. Com cspan. Politico had a great story about the caucus day attitude and what is going on in nevada right now as they go to caucus. Here is a bit from the story Democratic National Committee Chairman tom perez warned earlier this week that results from the nevada caucus on saturday might not be released day, an apparent attempt to lower expectations after the meltdown in iowa. But the nevada Democratic Party had a different message, as caucus approached. Quote, we plan to have results out on caucus day, the Communications Director said. Exactly when the outcome of the caucus will be known is one source of apprehension heading into the election. Some say theys as received handson training with the ipads the party purchased to help tablet results. Other volunteers are worried about executing the new Voting System which includes the x or complication of adding early vote totals extra complication of adding early results,ls to dayall a step that even iowa with all its problems did not have to deal with. Multiple president ial campaigns are anxious that the state party will not finish tabulating the votes by saturday. Finally, there are signs about the state party is worried about the details of the caucus being divulged. On thursday night, the nevada Democratic Party send in emailed to be six chairs in rural areas, asking them to sign a nondisclosure agreement and simultaneously offering a stipend. Should say that is stipend was offered. The nda stupid that volunteers are not authorized to speak to the press unless given permission by the executive director or Communications Director. Once again, all of this is coming up as nevada goes to caucus today. Once again, all the Democratic Candidates are barnstorming the state, running ads. At a gunoe biden violence event in las vegas on thursday in person. Shining, the sun is people are going to work and school. Voters in nevada are gearing up to vote in the caucus. But the end of the day, the end day, approximately 100 more people across the United States will be dead because of being shot with a gun. , because of ane accident, because of a selfinflicted wound, or a stray bullet, or intimatepartner violence, indiscriminate Mass Shootings because of guns. Another normal day in america. Congressman, who was just 19 years old, as he just pointed out, lost his father to a gun, and to all the family members with me today, standing behind me and not to me, or all the people next to me, for all the people in the country, normal becomes a nightmare. On october 1, 2017, it was a normal day in las vegas until one man, in possession of a small arsenal of assault weapons, many modified with bump stocks and increasing the speed with which he could fire the weapons, and 100 rounds of ammunition with each of those assault weapons, was able to minutes, to count 58 innocent lives, and hundreds more wounded. The largest mass shooting in American History. Normal . Normal to me and to all the people behind me is not acceptable. Host lets go to our callers and talk to donald, calling from washington, on the republican line. Good morning. Caller thank you. Hi. I just wanted to thanks cspan, they have done a really good job this past year. Guys have been really fair to not just the American Public but to all the different ,andidates, democratic independent, and republican. Definitely for seeing in theda rally and in nevada debate, there just doesnt seem to be a choice in my family anymore. It will definitely be a republican turnout for me and for most of the people i know, i know Washington State appears to usually be democratic. That happens to be mostly on the other side of our state. I did not vote for trump last year, but i will this year. I know the Nevada Democratic meate, but set it home for that said it home for me. These pretty sad to watch people that are supposed to be representing us here through our 50 states, they just dont seem to get it. s shows,ll you guys the debates, the rallies, i listen to everybody callin. Unusual ait was quite couple of weeks ago when everyone was calling in, and it seems to be a democratic night. Everybody just kept calling in saying, what the heck is going trump orer you like not on a personal basis, he was doing what is best, i believe militaryublic, for the. For the last, who knows, 10 or 20 years, who have been left on the side. When my dad and uncle came home from vietnam, they were spit on. Now they are not thought of that way, but everybody seems to forget that these men and women stopped their daily lives and chose to go and do something for everyone else. Host lets dr. Betty who is calling from omara, new york on palmyra, newc york on the democratic line. Good morning. Betty, go ahead. Caller well, to the caller that just hung up, what happened to his current president , who did not fight for his country . Host lets go to sadie, calling from apple valley, california on the independent line. Good morning. Caller good morning. What i am calling about is, i dont understand i am an accountant, and i work for Big Companies and i do individual taxes my thing is with the tax cut that was supposed to help people. In every client i have done, they are now owing money back. ,o the people who talk about well, donald trump is helping us and Small Businesses, i am right in the middle of it did i see Small Businesses taxes going up, icy individual taxes going up. Ic companies that i do that make billions, and they are paying no taxes i see companies that i do that make billions and they are paying no taxes. And he is doing it for people who cannot afford this. People saying that he is doing a good job i am just saying, people, wake up. We have a clown in the white house. I speak to people in different countries. They ask, what is going on with your country . I say, you have to ask the other individuals. Asking, why are your people not voting their interest . It is not about religion, because he is not a religious man. The republicans are not religious, because the bible says a liar will not dwell in heaven, and this man lies constantly. Host lets dr. Sandra calling from louisiana on the republican line. Sandra, good morning. Caller good morning. I just wanted to let you know this morning ranking for having me on this morning. I am crossing party lines because i believe in country over party. Everybody is saying what a wonderful job trump is doing, he is not. He is not acceptable and that they are normalizing the behavior to put babies in cages, he wants to cut Social Security, medicaid i cant believe people are going to say it is acceptable and they are going to vote for him. Anybody who was to have a conversation with me about trump and tell me why they are voting for him, i want to know, what are his policies and what has he done to help the country . I am not going to be voting in this election for him. I am with mike on this. Mike has what it takes to lead the country in the right direction. Host once again, the Democratic Candidates are barnstorming nevada as they get ready to go to the caucuses today. Here is Bernie Sanders at a get out the vote rally at unlv week. R this sen. Sanders you know, we won the Iowa Caucuses, won the popular vote. [applause] we won the New Hampshire primary. [applause] and if there is a large voter , inout here in nevada believe we are going to win the caucus here. [applause] win the caucus here, we are going to do really well california,olina, and on super tuesday. [cheers and applause] on super do well tuesday, we are going to win the democratic nomination. [cheers and applause] and if we win the democratic nomination, we will defeat donald trump [applause] [applause] sanders so let us do everything we can. I hope some of you will be able to vote this afternoon if, not this afternoon, come to a caucus on saturday. But let us have a huge voter turnout. Lets win here in nevada. Thank you all very much host one of the things we havent yet talked about is what is at stake at the nevada caucus, which is called the first in the west caucus by the states democrats. Never had a sense six delegates to the convention. Those delegates are at stake today for the nevada caucus, which once again i want to remind you, you can watch here on cspan. We will have the latest results of the nevada caucus and what is going on with candidate speeches starting today at 6 00 p. M. On cspan, cspan. Org and app. Ive cspan radio lets go to polly who is calling from wilmington, North Carolina on the democrat line. Good morning. Caller good morning, thank you for cspan. I am excited to say that i finally figured out who i am voting for. It has been a long process. There are so many candidates. It occurred to me just thursday that i think i am going to vote steyer. It is because tom steyer is like a younger joe biden. He is compassionate and empathetic to poor people and people who have the struggles of our society. Just like uncle joe. And he is like a younger Michael Bloomberg, because he is a selfmade billionaire. And he is a younger bernie and elizabeth because he hates citizens united, and he really rails against how the banks take advantage of their poorer customers. I especially like the idea of a super rich guys saying that he hates citizens united, because i appreciate that somebody is like , that is crazy to have money make the decision about politics. And he is the person who has the advantage of money. I really appreciate that. Thank you, cspan for letting me say that i have made my decision. Super tuesday is when i vote, and that is when i will be voting for tom steyer. Host tom steyer is actually running in nevada right now and hopes to get a good finish therefore himself. Here is one of the ads he is running right now. [video clip]. Tom steyer will be to donald trump of the economy. His people over profits plan meets the living wage, creates thousands of good paying jobs in nevada, and provides a 10 tax cut for everyone making under 250,000. Toms plan also makes health care a right by adding a public option to obamacare to ensure universal coverage, protects unionnegotiated plans, and allows nevadas to make their own health care choices. I am tom steyer and i approve this message. Host lets go back to our phone lines and talk to peter, calling form lakeland, florida on the independent line. Peter, good morning. Caller good morning. I was just wondering if you have the nevada on where caucus is making volunteers sign nondisclosure agreements on the count and how it goes off today. That is something they did not do in iowa and thus, the mess in iowa was exposed. I think that the democratic establishment and the donors are terrified of Bernie Sanders. So get ready for some funky numbers in nevada. You dont have volunteers sign ndas, not unless you are going to do something ugly. Stay tuned. A story ontually had earlier from politico which talked about that very issue. He will keep going, cheryl calling from cleveland, ohio, on the republican line. Good morning. Caller good morning. It saddens me to see what is happening now with the selection among black voters, especially. I happen to be a black republican. For the first time in history, we are looking at black unemployment that is at the 6 range. Compared to as high as 16 under barack obama. Unemployment, prison reform, these are two of the primary things trump has done to help directly black americans. You dont hear a single word i have not heard a word from one democrat candidate saying what they will do to continue this trend, especially with respect to unemployment. Not a single one. Where is the concern . These people who have claimed for decades that they care so much about black people. For the first time we have a situation where black people are able to actually improve their economic lot in life and there is radio silence from the democrats. But what saddens me the most is that black people are you, in which are still, in huge numbers, going to vote for these people. Why . I dont understand why. This is a historic moment for black voters. Host lets talk to nina, calling from florida on the democratic line. Nina, good morning. Caller good morning. Comments. I watched the debate the other any joyd i dont out of any of the candidates for the future. It is all backandforth. Citizens agive reason not to vote for donald trump, it is always anger and meanness. The california accountant about the tax cuts, we actually got more in our checks monthly, so citizens had to go in change their doubly for so they would avoid having to pay the i. R. S. If she was an accountant they had to go and change the w4 so they would have to avoid paying the i. R. S. If she was an accountant, she would advisor clients about. Host the nevada caucuses are later today, and Democratic Candidates are flooding the state with ads. Your is a Pete Buttigieg ad running in nevada right now. [video clip] i am Pete Buttigieg. Providing Health Insurance is not just my plan, it is my cause. I go about it a different way than many of my competitors. First, my plan gives everybody access to medicare. Everybody. But if you are happy with the remedy insurance you have got, my planet lets you stick with it if you want. Others say that it is medicare for all or nothing. I approve this message to say, the choice should be yours. Host lets talk to dave, calling from irvine, california on the independent line. Good morning. Caller good morning. Just wanted to make a comment. First of all, you have got to get donald trump out of office. The republicans voted against that. It doesnt matter who, we have to get a democrat in there because trump will get us all killed. He does not care about the American People. All he cares about is more war and tax breaks for the rich and taking over health care. He has not did a thing for these people. I live in california. There are so many homeless people. He is not going to do anything for them. The problem is the republicans went along with donald trump. Only one republican said that donald trump should not have been acquitted. And it should have been thrown out of office. That was mitt romney. Good. Republicans are no if you dont get them out of office, it is going to hurt a lot of people. When trump gets reelected, we will either be in a nuclear war or he will get rid of medicare and Social Security. You have got to get him out of office. Host lets go to joseph calling from tampa florida, on the republican line. Good morning. Caller i am a black republican like a lady from cleveland. But i am not somebody who is going to lie about things that dont exist. That, underng is about you were talking the us the lady called in talking about she was an accountant. She was explaining how taxes have gone up high under everything she is seeing, whether it is Small Businesses or individuals. I was you were talking about health care earlier, but under mitt romney, romneycare in massachusetts was 97 successful. Why cant we go to a situation like that . And not the republican thing, which came from the heritage foundation, which i understand the affordable is, and get that put in place, and fix the situation with health care . If the unions, from the foot all Union Football union to baseball, ifockey, they had all these professionals like tom brady and the rest of the guys out there talking about romneycare would be successful for the rest of the nation, that as soon as barack obama picked ,t up, trying to be bipartisan they thought of every reason to cut it down. I dont understand that. I am republican, but i am honest. If a democratic candidate has a good idea, lets do it. If they have a stupid idea, lets reject it. Host once again, all the democrats are barnstorming nevada as we get ready for the caucuses. Here is Amy Klobuchars ad running right now. [video clip] sen. Klobuchar i am Amy Klobuchar and i approve this message. 100 days, 100 ways to restore hope. Y, opportunity and sen. Klobuchar my entire 100day plan will not fit in this tv ad. But lets give it a go. Address Mental Health and addiction. Fix the a benefits. Expand job training. The president will work to from day one. Antitrust enforcement. Housing. E host lets talk to todd calling from manchester, connecticut on the independent line. Todd, good morning. Caller how are you doing today . Host just fine, go ahead. Caller just wanted to say that in the past i have disagreed with many president s. Reaganot fond of bush or , and some of the stuff that clinton did, i was not even fond of, even obama, there are some things i disagreed with, but i have never felt that any of the president s up until now have been a traitor to the country. Guy,lly feel like this trump, is a traitor to the country. I think he is still in with the russians. I think the fish rots from the head down. Everything he has done to dismantle the e. P. A. And other agencies, the corruption so rampant. I mean, it is beyond belief. Anyone of these Democratic Candidates, bloomberg, sanders, klobuchar, would be 1000 times better. I personally would like to see a woman in office, and i think the best one for that would be Elizabeth Warren. Host lets go to remind calling from michigan on the democratic line. Raymond, good morning. Caller good morning. [indiscernible] one of the colors made a statement about when obama was in office. Office, the was 4 . Ment rate now it is 3. 25 . Who is it . I like joe. I like all of the candidates. Is the best, because he knows trump. Get down to the street with trump and his lies. Terry,ets talk to calling from illinois. Terry, good morning. Caller good morning. In to let youling know that all these people who is in office wait a minute [tv in the background] good morning to you, this is the only channel either sent to, because only channel i listen to, cause you get it straight. Host terry, turned on your television. Caller yes. Can you hear me now . Host yes. Go ahead. Caller i am not really good about anybody in office now. I have to vote for trump, but i am for the moral majority. I am a christian. Until we get this whole place back in order, we are not going to have a chance. I just thank you. Goodbye. Host coming up next, we will go on the ground in nevada with Associated Presss medical reporter Michelle Price. We will hit the ground and talk to her political reporter, Michelle Price. We will hit the ground and talk to her about what is going on. We will be right back. Q a,ncer sunday night on we discuss notable speakers of the house with a Political Science professor, matthew green. We have come a long way from the days of sam rayburn and eisenhower, the idea that you Work Together even if you are in separate elected institutions. Thus idea that the speaker in particular should be differential to the president. That is not what we are seeing now. Deferential to the president. There is a way that that is a sign of vigorous party differences. If you disagree with the president as a speaker, you should not be afraid to say so. But i think, and this is what troubles me, there are ways in which elected officials, we expect to share some common issues or at least the sense that they have these important institutional roles to play that should rise above their policy differences. Announcer watch sunday night at 8 00 p. M. Eastern on cspans q a. Join us today at 6 00 p. M. Eastern for the results of the nevada caucuses. Precinct results, candidate speeches from joe biden, senators Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders and Amy Klobuchar, Pete Buttigieg and tom steyer, and your calls about 2020. Live calls on cspan, ondemand at cspan. Org, or listen free on the cspan radio app. Announcer washington journal continues. Back with Michelle Price, political reporter with the Associated Press, who is on the ground right now in las vegas as the nevada caucuses begin today. Michelle, good morning. Guest good morning, thank you for having me. Host what are you expecting to see today out of the nevada caucuses . High turnout . Low turnout . And what is the weather, because i know sometimes that affects the turnout for the caucuses. Guest the turnout is that open question. For the first time this year, there were four days of early voting. They had about 75,000 people show up for that, about as many as in 2016. Nevada has been an early caucus state since 2008, so we only have two cycles to compare to. We just dont know if we will get a huge turnout today or if a little those people turned out earlier in the week to cast the vote. The nevada Democratic Party says that a lot of people who showed up earlier this week, they would think a majority of them were firsttime caucusgoers. So we are expecting thousands to show up today. Normally we have had sunny weather all week. Today, we have rain in las vegas, which we are hoping is not an omen. Hopefully people are not waiting in long lines to try to get to. Host some of these caucus sites today how does early voting work in our system . Guest it works pretty similar to the voting you do in a normal election. The way that it has worked in nevada, it is any system that am a kratz had to come up with over the last year, then they had to tweak it a bit after the iowa debacle. But voters show up at caucus sites, they are open at various hours, any caucus site at their county. They fill out a paper ballot. They choose at least three candidates. They can choose up to five them. G those votes will be added to the inperson votes which will be cast today, and when people stand in their corners to express confidence for each candidate. Host do we know how many voters show up to vote early versus how many are expected to show up today in person . Guest we had 75,000 show up early. We dont know how many will show up today. The nevada Democratic Party has made a point of not making any predictions, because we dont have a lot of history here to see how this might go. Conservatively, i would think maybe another 50,000. It depends on what the weather does, if people feel really engaged now. There is a lot of interest, but the higher early vote turnout was a sign that there is a lot year, so i in this would be surprised if we dont see a number close to 75,000 show up today. Host a reminder to our viewers, they can take part in this conversation. We will open up our regular lines. Republicans, you can call in at 2027488001, democrats, 2027488000, independents, 2027488002. Voters, if nevada you are up and watching this morning, we want to hear we will vote for and who you will caucus for. Your special number will be 2027488003 and you can text that number as well. We are always reading on ,cialmedia at twitter cspanwj, and on facebook at facebook. Com cspan. Now, michelle, this is the first caucus after iowa. We know all the problems iowa had in getting these results out. Sayingre the democrats in nevada about when they are going to see results . And are you expecting any type of problems from the caucuses like what we saw in iowa . Guest the nevada Democratic Party, they have said that they are trying to get it out as fast as possible. They have not committed to a time. The Democratic National committee i interviewed tom perez and repeatedly asked if they were going to have results today. That. Ld not commit to he said their biggest goal is to get it right, not getting fast. They are tempering expectations about when we might get the results. The caucuses start at noon. We are on pacific time, so it is a little earlier than when the Iowa Caucuses started. Gives them a little time to work on this. Harry reid, former nevada senator who is involved in the party, he thinks we will get them out today. But they are relying pretty heavily on paper. What we saw on iowa was people calling on hotlines, reporting. There are three sets of numbers this time. We have got about 2000 precincts here. Callsare about 2000 phone that will need to happen as people are working through, and that is after they work through a piece of paper and calculate. 5 00nservatively, maybe by might be optimistic, but we will see. Host lets get one of our callers on the line. One of our nevada caucus callers is calling. Lets talk to sherry calling from reno, nevada. Caller good morning. Caller good morning. I am excited about the caucus this morning. I am really hopeful that we get it right. There has been a lot of training, and there will be people checking the. I am excited and im supporting Bernie Sanders this morning. Host now, you will be caucusing in reno. Where in how long the expert to be at the caucus site today . Caller i will be there at 9 00 am a but i dont believe it opens until 10 00 a. M. P. M. Tually starts at 12 00 if you are in you voter, you can also register, so that takes quite a while. And it should be done by 1 30 at the latest, this afternoon. Host michelle, it is her experience is her what most voters in nevada can expect to see today . Guest that is what the parameters the Democratic Party has laid out today, the timeline. Yes. Host tell us a bit about what is at stake here. We know that the democrats called this the first caucus in the west. How many delegates, candidate come out of nevada with, and are these pledged or unpledged delegates . For our viewers we dont know what that means, explain that for us. Guest there will be 36 coming out. They will be charged through the first ballot at the Democratic National convention. In past years, we would have caucuses and delegates would come out of that, many had to go to a county convention and a state conventions. There were all these steps along the way. Today, these delegates will be patched through the first round of voting and it may be the only round of voting at the Democratic National convention. Host lets talk to herbert, calling from North Carolina on the independent line. Good morning. Caller good morning. Thank you for giving me a chance to voice my opinion. Let is all we have these days. ,verybody has got their opinion and certainly, americans are smart. So i just want to say thank you for being an american. The greatest country in the world, the most diversified country in the world. And lets do our best. That is all we do. That is all i want to say, thanks for giving me a chance. Usingmichelle, is nevada the same caucus software that iowa did . What are the differences we will be able to see between what happened in iowa and what nevada is doing today . Guest so, nevada was originally software. Se similar the same app developer that made the iowa app that was at the epicenter of a lot of the problems they had. Nevada had two apps, want to administer the early vote. People would have showed up in voted on an ipad. Then for caucus day, they had an app that was almost identical to the one iowa used. After iowa had so many problems, they dumped both of those and they have been scrambling to come up with a new plan. So today they are mostly going back to the oldschool way of doing it where they are working it out on paper and phoning it in, but they are using ipads as a calculating tool. They will have preloaded data from the early vote. So at a caucus, somebody running it caucus will be able be way to not only count the people in the room, but they will be able to look at how many people in their precinct voted early and who they voted for. They will be essentially virtually added to the people in the room. Say i have five people show up at my caucus today voting for joe biden, and five people voted early for him, joe biden has 10 votes today in that precinct. So these ipods will show them the early data and then they can add in who showed up in person, and then cultivate how many delegates they get. And it will transmit those results to the party. But the party says that is not the primary way they are collecting results, they are still asking everybody to a phone in on the hotline. It is serving as one of many backstops the party wants to check its data to make sure they are getting the same information from everybody. Host you wrote earlier this week that the democrats are not committing to releasing the unofficial results today. In fact, here is a bit from that story you wrote earlier this week. Tomocrats will not commit releasing the unofficial results of saturdays nevada caucuses on vote, as they emphasize accuracy overspeed in the aftermath of the chaos surrounding the Iowa Caucuses. Tom perez, chairman of the dnc, told the Associated Press that several factors, including early voting and potentially high turnout, could affect the tabulation and timing. Addition, nevada, like iowa, will be reporting three sets of data from the multistage caucus process. Arrest says he does not know when the results will be released. We will do our best to release possible. S as soon as he said, played tuesday after touring an early voting site in las vegas, so do you think we will see something tonight, or is sunday a better idea of getting results from the caucuses today . Guest i really hopeful that we will see something tonight, because there has been so much buildup, especially with voting having already started this week. We didnt get clear results out of iowa. There is a lot of anticipation in this race to get more results to help maybe narrow the field and to give people at better sense of the standing. I dont know if it would be wise to make a prediction because there are so many new factors with the nevada caucuses, like the early vote and the ipad, and the turnout with the rain. Host lets talk to brenda calling from nevada all the democratic line. Good morning. Caller i say, dumped trump [laughter] does that work . Try john, calling from oregon on the independent line. John, good morning. Caller good morning. Hello . Host go ahead, john. Caller i have tried to call in earlier and i could never get in could never get through. I am calling about is, of course, donald trump. I have watched him for over 40 years, with his antics and his lies. The nondisclosure agreements , i ame of his crimes, and 70 years old, and i have been an independent my entire life. I have never voted a straight ticket one way or the other. Seeing from donald trump is treason. Is plain and simple. He is making war on america. Thank you for your time. ,ost the caller brings up michelle, is there a Republican Caucus going on today along with the democrat caucuses in nevada . Not. there is the Republican Party of nevada decided last year to cancel their caucus. The partys governing members are meeting in a town about one hour outside of las vegas where they will kind of ceremoniously vote to bind other delegates to the president. We have seen republicans in other states counseling caucuses or primaries as a show of support for the president and to avoid any primary. He was not expected to face any serious challenge here, but he did show up. Sturdy and hold a rally kind of to boost that she did show up yesterday and hold a rally to boost himself here in town. Host talk about what is going on on the ground as the caucuses begin. Here is a poll from real clear politics, which shows that the Nevada Democratic caucuses caucuses,democratic joe biden is pulling at 16 , peak buttigieg, 14 , and Elizabeth Warren at 13. 7 . Is that tracking tom steyer, 10 and quilish are also at 10 , is that the much tracking and Amy Klobuchar at 10 . Is that tracking with what youre hearing on the ground, michelle . Guest yes. For the most part, the polls have been stuck in that position. Up until about early january, joe biden was leading and sanders was second. We started to see a shift after the results came out of iowa and hampshire. Joe biden had weak finishes their. Sanders is more well known than he was in 2016. He is more known. Nevada is not a state used to be be more politically engaged, it is used to be low in the calendar. You have people who are super tuned in like professional president ial bettors yet, but sanders is well known around town. He walks into tackle shops and people might not speak very well, but they know Bernie Sanders. The biggest thing you need in a caucus state is a team that can get people to turn out. Bernie sanders has the biggest team in nevada by far, 250 people. The next closest is Pete Buttigieg with about 100. He is reaching out, he is sending mailers out, he has as in spanish. That he has ads in spanish. He is definitely the favorite in nevada today. Host lets go to our caller, steve in tennessee on the independent line. Good morning. Caller good morning, it is actually keith, but that is ok. I had a question about an earlier comment that was made. It leads into a question i had. The republicans canceling caucuses in nevada, how does nevada work in terms of Party Affiliation . In tennessee, we have a primary on super tuesday. Do you just tell them youre theg to vote in either democratic or republican primary. Can they declare at the caucus sites which party question mark that is my first question. My second question is, if it is an open caucustype system, and republicans dont have a caucus theicipate in, results . Theecond question is, battle is for second place. Who would you say has the best shot of finishing second in the process today question mark thank you. Host three Great Questions from keith. Guest i missed the second question. He cut out a little bit. Host the first question is, is it an open or closed primary . Since republicans are not having a primary can they vote in the Democratic Caucus . Guest they can. Because the parties are running this, the Democratic Party requires you to be a democrat to participate, but you can show up ofdy and register an eclair the democrat and participate so if you are a republican voter or independent, you can become a democrat at the caucus site and participate. Host he asks, since Bernie Sanders is pulling so well, the comes inon is for who second. He asks what your prediction is for who comes in second behind Bernie Sanders . Guest that is a tough one. That is a question we have been too. Ng ourselves, former Vice President biden has a really good staff, he is well known. I would not count him out for second place. Got here late, started organizing in late august, but his crowds have been growing pretty exponentially since then. He has a big staff. He could be a contender. Elizabeth warren was one of the first to start organizing here in nevada. She has been reaching out in all corners of the state as early as january and february of last year. Some of those connections could have really carried her through, and she could surprise a lot of people. Host we saw a lot of the Democratic Candidates start dropping out after New Hampshire. Is nevada a make or break state for any of these people on the ballot . , from a reporter standpoint, we hope so, because it is getting hard to cover a crowded field when they are all over town. There are a couple of candidates in need of a bit of a fundraising boost. Elizabeth warren would be one of them, Pete Buttigieg. If they do well, it could help carry them through. Biden,Vice President joe he started lowering expectations in iowa and New Hampshire about how he would finish there and he did poorly. Well. Ds to do if he does not get second or above, i think people will start raising questions about his liability going forward, because he has been counting on support questions about his viability going forward. He has been counting on voters of color. Unions are the first strength the voters offer for candidates to test themselves on. Host the former new york city mayor, Michael Bloomberg, is not on the ballot and is not included in the nevada , but how do people in nevada feel about him . Guest they have not been talking about him much. He has not been here. He hasnt campaigned here. He did not even register in time to get on the ballot. That is why they cannot put for him. He has said he is skipping all the early states. So the way the ballot works here, you cant write anybody in. Himle are not talking about too much, but so far, we have seen democrats out at these events with the Democratic Candidates. We have not seen many independents. So it is unclear if there is sleeper support for Michael Bloomberg here if you were to compete. Host lets get a couple more callers in. Richard is calling from missouri on the republican line, good morning. Caller good morning. Las vegas, i have been there several times and i have enjoyed all my trips there. I want to talk to the people of nevada. Weve got a president that sits him bodyguards all around calling a black man and s. O. B. Medal on a bigot, rush limbaugh. Consider that in your vote down there. I just cannot i have been a republican most of my life, but i just cant go along with this gentleman. Host michelle, what are the issues that nevada voters are talking about as the caucuses come close, is it health care, national security, immigration . What is the topic nevada voters are talking about . Guest health care, just like everywhere else. We have seen that that is the top issue we hear people talking about. We have the same divide laying out you see in the Democratic Party, where there are voters who like the medicare for all plan, the idea of a governmentrun system. There are people who like the idea of a public option, where people can choose to get into the government system but they dont have to. Guns and gun control is an issue popular with democrats, especially in the wake of the mass shooting here in 2017, on the las vegas strip, the deadliest mass shooting in modern u. S. History. The economy is a big issue. Nevada and las vegas in particular, where most of the population is, was a boom and bust town and it was hit very hard in a recession. So there is concern about taxes and how people will steer the economy when they get in. Foreign policy, immigration is a huge issue. Some of these issues, there isnt as much daylight between the Democratic Candidates. On immigration, there are some slight differences. But they mostly all want comprehensive immigration reform, a path to citizenship for the Daca Recipients and some of their family members. Host lets see if we can get a couple more callers before the show ends. Lets talk to frank calling from abington, virginia on the republican line. Good morning. Caller hello. Maybe a suggestion that they can get you guys are bigger button to hit when you get one of the democrats. Just telling lies, that is what half of them are doing. And, it dont matter who wins in ,he Democratic Caucuses primaries, or whatever, they are not going anywhere else, they cant beat trump. Host lets try bernie, calling from kentucky on the democratic line. Good morning. Caller good morning. How are you . Um, we have been campaigning really hard, my wife and i, for Amy Klobuchar in kentucky. Her ine any buzz about nevada, or is she just too midwestern for them . Have you spoken to her, and can you tell us how shes doing. Host go ahead, michelle. Guest she is not too midwestern. I will just caution that most people from las vegas, it is hard to find las vegas natives. There is a lot of midwesterners living here. I think the Biggest Issue is she did not start campaigning here until recently. She came a couple of times last year for some forums but she did not go out meeting people, did not Start Building a Campaign Team until january. She is kind of late to the game and it is a crowded field. Last week on thursday night in las vegas, downtown, she got a pretty decent crowd to turn out for an event. I think if she had more time, she would be building on it. But she has been very late. Didnt start dropping on tv until very recently. It would be quite an upset if she was able to get maybe above third here. Michelle, there has been a lot of talk about the Culinary Unions nonendorsement and their power in that state. How does their nonendorsement affect the caucuses today . Guest it is mostly a big blow to joe biden, who has long ties to this union and really kind of needed a boost and a shot in the arm heading into the caucuses. The unions have been heavily courted for months. You have seen candidates releasing videos on the picket line with them, doing town halls. Their big issue is health care, like a lot of voters, but they have Health Care Plans but our top issue for these culinary members. They have really Great Health Care and they pay very little for it. And the medicare for all health plan, they have made it pretty clear that they dont want to give it up under those plans. They announced last week that they are not endorsing, but they are not staying neutral either, they have been exhibiting leaflets to workers in the famous casinos a las vegas putting out leaflets in, the dining rooms comparing the candidates on health care, and making it clear that they feel that Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren would not be good for their health care. They faced a little bit of backlash online from some of the senators supporters on that. Host lets go to new york maturely on the independent line. Good morning lets go to new york, charlie calling on independent line. Caller i am concerned about union people and the middle class paying for his programs. To clarify about what is going on with union people, what is going to happen with their plans. I also remember bloomberg, new york city over here, when he was mayor, the way he attacked new york city teachers. He was a vicious animal, this man. His term also run out as mayor, and he bought more time with his money. This is a man who is running for president right now, who changed the system, which is money, when he was mayor. I cant believe you know, think of adolf hitler, put a suit on him and run him for president , he would probably have a better candidate than bloomberg. Host lets try one more caller larry from beaver falls, pennsylvania on the democrat line. Good morning. Caller good morning. I just want to give a shout out to Amy Klobuchar. Amy. E, vote for by, the time she gets to pennsylvania she may not be a way to get here i really want to be it what to vote for her. She is a moderate. She could with the midwest and we need someone moderate who can win. Bernie is great, i love him, but he is a threat. In the general election, we have threat to ourl republic. Trump must be defeated and removed. Thank you. Host one last question from me. What do you expect the lineup to be denied for the delegates, and who will be in charge coming out of nevada, as far as the democrats go . Guest i dont know if it would be wise for me to make a prediction, there are just so many unknowns. But if you force me to make a bet, i would say, expect bernie to come out on top. Everything have seen poll numbers, the strength of organizing the way he has got the word out. However it shakes out, i would expect him to be number one coming out. Host we think Michelle Price, medical reporter for the Associated Press for being with us this morning out of las vegas. Hope you have a great day out there, michelle. Guest thank you. Host once again, we remind our viewers that cspan will have the latest from the nevada caucus and candidate speeches, starting live today at 6 00 p. M. Eastern on cspan, cspan. Org, and on the free cspan radio app. I want to thank all of our guests, viewers and callers on todays show. Make sure you tune in again tomorrow morning at 7 00 a. M. For another episode of washington journal. Announcer here is a look at what is coming up today on cspan. Next, has hearing on preventing hate crimes. A part of remembrance of the holocaust 75 years after the liberation of auschwitz. Then a form on propaganda campaigns. The Massachusetts Democratic Senate campaign between Edward Markey and joe kennedy. Join us today at 6 p. M. Eastern for the results of the nevada caucuses. Precinct results, candidate speeches from joe biden, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren and Amy Klobuchar, tom steyer and Pete Buttigieg, and your calls about camping 2020. Live coverage on cspan, on demand at cspan. 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