Washington journal continues. Our sunday political roundtable with joe fuld and jim hobart. Good sunday morning. Thanks for being with us. Lets begin with the issue of impeachment and how this will potentially play out in 2020. Your view . Guest i think what you are seeing is that it is there are so many there are 40 of voters who have wanted to impeach the president since he took office. There are about 45 of voters who want the president to stay in office and who support him strongly. Then you see the 15 in the middle that are not paying all that much attention. My anticipation was that eventually you were going to see more or less nonapproval would run ahead of approval, with more voters saying they are opposed of impeaching and removing the president then approve of him. Guest we are in a divided country. We have people who have been for impeachment, folks against it is a very small group of people that are persuadable on these issues. It is an important dialogue for folks to be able to hear and see what is going on. That is why i am happy to be here this morning. I think there are very few places left where people are actually having conversations and talking to each other, democrat, republican it is the fun part of being on cspan. Host this morning, the president with this tweet nancy, adam schiff, aoc nancy pelosi, adam schiff, aoc, and the rest of the democrats are not getting anything done. The usmca, gun safety, Prescription Drug isis, and Prescription Drug prices are dead in the water because of democrats. Guest republicans were in power prior to this. We did not see a lot of movement on those issues at all. I think we are trying, the democrats are. I disagree with that characterization. Guest the head of the Congressional Campaign committee for the republicans as our guest on newsmakers. Here is one ad that will be emblematic from republicans. [video clip] just talk. These days, it is all about impeachment. All impeachment, all the time. Power. Er pushing for if we do not impeach this president , he will get reelected. Control is the goal. Start solving problems. Host jim hobart . Guest that is a message from republicans. You are seeing democrats, especially from swing districts, voicing concern. That if they are not able to go back to their district and say this is not what we are able to do, their primary focus is passing some sort of trade deal, and their is concerned of not being able to come back to these shirts that voted for the president and say this is what i was able to accomplish in washington. Pollinge director of saying we are not really seeing a backlash, just people locked in. Guest yeah, and i think it will continue to see that. There is an opinion i do think, what has been important about impeachment hearings is you get to hear folks really servants speakc for themselves. As far as does it move public opinion, i think we got a little ways to see. Guest i think this stuff digs in a little bit, but you have a very small group of people persuadable. Host who is the Democratic Front runner today . Guest i am a fan of mayor pete. I think right now it is still up in the air, who is going to be the front runner. You will see it is moving. I am a political consultant, toch means i have no ability predict anything. I think you have a new front runners that appeal to different parts of the Democratic Party, and i think it will continue to move around. In theut he has surged polls, leading convincingly in iowa and New Hampshire, but you attribute that to what . Guest to having a really defined message in the debates. Being super clear about who he is and what he says and actually having a message. That is what i am seeing and that is what is starting to get through. Host if you look at this race, who was the front runner from your standpoint . That is difficult to say either joe biden or Elizabeth Warren is not a front runner because of the way they are performing and national polls. Yes, iowa and New Hampshire will make a big difference, but we can see someone win in iowa and that is the high watermark of their campaign. We have seen that before. But what mayor pete has been able to do is really impressive. One of the big things he has been able to do is raise money. One of the reasons he is leading the polls in iowa is he has been on television there at a high level, and Television Still moves voters. The let me share this from New York Times, talking about how Elizabeth Warren has fared in the polling. After nearly a year of slowly, and then not so slowly, rising to the top of the pack, senator Elizabeth Warren is facing her first period of apparent plateau. Her momentum stalled, according to polls and dozens of interviews, amid nagging doubts and the predictable price of success. Even more scrutiny. Make and file democrats have raised concerns about the viability of her medicare for all proposal. They worry about the blowback richsome of her the platform has inspired. The fact that senator warren is sliding in the polls former mayor Michael Bloomberg and former governor Deval Patrick appeared so unimpressed with the strength of the Democratic Candidates that they climbed into a field that is growing again. Again. Guest what is interesting is that maybe Michael Bloomberg and Deval Patrick is not impressed with the field, but if we look at the polls, democratic voters are very impressed the current field. Michael blue began Deval Patrick, it is almost like they see a problem where voters do not see one. It will be difficult for both. Will try to run a unique and television heavy campaign where he avoids the first four states. Patrick, it gets very difficult to enter a race this late and make an impact. We have seen on the republican side for, the democratic side before. Host to that point, how viable is that, to have somebody bypassing iowa, New Hampshire, south carolina, nevada, and say i will get in on super tuesday . Guest i do not think it is viable. Historically what ive seen is momentum builds and that iowa, New Hampshire, south carolina, and nevada will have an outside outsized impact. He will be very hard to miss those states and then jump in. Other folks have tried before. I do not think it will be successful. Host the message of senator Elizabeth Warren we were live with her at a town hall meeting in manchester, New Hampshire. Heres a portion of what she said. [video clip] what you are doing today is about the things we are fighting for but also about fighting for our democracy. It is about fighting for a democracy where the rich and the powerful may have more shoes than we do, may have more cars than we do, may have more houses than we do, but they do not own a bigger share of our democracy than we do. [applause] [cheers] every time you knock on a door, every time you talk to somebody in line ahead of you at the grocery store, every time you make a phone call, you are repairing a little thread in our democracy. You are making this democracy work not just for those at the top but for everyone. So i am grateful to you for what you are here today to do. Host that was senator Elizabeth Warren. Again, the story in the New York Times warren has done the hard part. Now may come the harder part. Guest yeah. Me,ink health care, for still the underlying conversation, one of the big ones in the democratic primary. I think people like having their own health care. I think there is some concern among democrats about whether we are going to be playing defense on health care, if you have a universal Health Care Proposal on a candidate who supported going forward. Host is that why she has slid in the polls, medicare for all . Guest i think that is sometimes hard for folks to get their head around. I think it has been a debate going on in this country for a long time. I think it is needed, but the issue is people still have not come as voters, been able to figure out how that will happen. Guest the democratic primary electorate is still pretty moderate. The republican primary electorate is very conservative. The democratic primary electorate is not as liberal. You see a lot of voters who are radical change. You see former president obama coming out and being more voice do not that, same people want everything to change. There is more satisfaction with how things are right now than the way a lot of the democrats are running. Host what is the debate within the Democratic Party . What is it all about . Guest i think the debate is about finding a candidate that actually has a clear message. I think health care is part of that debate. But i think it really is still looking for a candidate that voters think can beat donald trump. Host part of that debate on msnbc, and senator Amy Klobuchar sharing her views on what is possible in the debate between the more progressive wing of the Democratic Party and the centerleft. [video clip] what ive done with all of my plans is i have showed how i am going to pay for them meticulously. I think that is really important, when we have a president in the white house right now who has told over 10,000 lies. When you look at my website, you will see my plans, and you will also see how i am going to pay for it. I think that is so important, because this president is literally increasing the debt, treating our farmers and workers like poker chips in a bankrupt casino, and really putting this country in a worse financial situation every single day. My plan is three months. I think that is good. I would love to do more. I would love to staple up diplomas under peoples chairs. I am not going to go for things i am not talking about senator harris plans, but some of the other ideas out here i will not go for things just because they sound good on a Bumper Sticker and then there in a free car. Throw in a free car. We have an obligation as a party to be fiscally responsible, think big, but make sure we have peoples backs and be honest about what we can pay for, which is everything from sending rich kids to college for free, which i do not support, to kicking 149 Million People off of their Health Insurance in four years. I think we have to be smart about how we do it. That courtesy of msnbc. Is that a message that excites democratic primary voters . Guest it is my view that delivery matters. Talking in an emotional way that engages with the general public is super important. That is what you are seeing candidates that are moving up and candidates that are not is based on how they can connect. No is the answer, that was not very connected. Host as you look at this from your side of the aisle, what do you think . Guest the challenges there is a wing of the Democratic Party that it does appeal to, but the problem is those are not the democratic voters who will be owners the Democratic Party that will be out there knocking doors for you. That is a challenge. Clearlyanders message really resonates with a certain part of the Democratic Party, and it is one that repeatedly gives a small dollar donations. It is one that creates 30,000 people, 40,000 people rallies. That kind of tension is we know that one message may play a little bit better to the middle, but in terms of what excites voters who show up at rallies who gave donations, it is a different message. Host if our viewers and listeners want to follow you on social media, how do they do that . Guest thejimhobart. Guest joefuld. From we are joined now oregon. Caller good morning. I would like to say little bit about myself i was in the itary from 1971 through 19 i served with honor. The way i feel about it is the republicans i used to vote both sides, but the republicans have gone to the point where they do not i do not believe they can ever call themselves the party of law and order anymore. I do not believe they will never be able to say nobody is above the law. I have a problem with that. So i will vote either pete or warren. Primary on wins the the democratic side is who i will really vote for. One thing for people my age of 67 is that it is better dead than red. Thank you. Host thank you for the call. You are shaking your head. Guest i think it is going to be a really interesting primary. I think it is, right now i really have to continue to engage and turn out there voters and get them ready for what will be a difficult general election. I think there are a lot of voters out there that used the vote republican who are looking for a place to go. So i think, that being said, historically, we have now had the past three president s have gone two terms. It will be a tough race, but it will be interesting. Host if you look at the center race on the republican side, which worry you most . Guest states like arizona and colorado will be challenging. The democratic challenger in colorado is raising an incredible amount of money. But i think in both states, we have incredibly strong candidates. Someone like cory gardner was not expected to win in 2014, was not expected to win the first time he ran for congress, and he has proven a really good votegetter in a difficult state. I am always amazed at the call is from hawaii, early in the morning our next collet is from hawaii. Good morning to you. What time is it there . Caller it is 3 30. [laughter] host have you gone to bed or are you just getting up . Caller i am laying in bed, watching you guys talk. Host well, good morning. Caller its aloha. In trouble. I watched that debate last week. It was appalling. And then i watched one of the things that is really getting to me and i voted for hillary, but i will tell you what. This guy trump is getting things done. The economy i got a brother who is a farmer in pennsylvania, and he loves trump. The longrump is going game as far as the farming. But lets revisit a couple of things. Lets be fair. We had an administration before that sent 3000 guns to mexico, to the cartels. The guns came back and killed our own guys on the border. Then we had an Administration Using the irs to spy on or do bad things against the conservatives. And then we had this ambassador that i watched the proceeding, she comes back from the ukraine, and she gets a cushy job in georgetown university. The last administration left and ambassador and three of our soldiers to die in the 13 hour benghazi. And then, what really made me democratse way the hearing. The kavanaugh guest first we can set with farming and trade. The tariffs policy has really hurt farmers and folks with Small Businesses in the u. S. Who are doing work. That is something ive definitely heard and is problematic for the current administration. I think it is one of these things of really understanding and having these conversations with folks. It is great to hear everyones opinions on cspan. I think, long term, it will be about democrats really having a policy around what are we going to do on trade . What are we going to do on health care that will be a difference and a question on whether or not we can defeat the president . Host this tweet senator Amy Klobuchar is moderate but not exciting. She is spot on for some moderates, honest and sincerity, cares about people. Send us a tweet at cspanwj. We go to south dakota on the democrats line. Caller good morning. You sound like a really smart man. The thing that you are having to defend the thing i cannot understand is why trump will not let his cabinet like homemade like a veiny and all them testify. It sounds to me like he is scared of them testifying, but i would like to actually see trump and biden swear in and we put a thinktector on them i biden would pass it. I think trump called me the lowest vial of human scum or something. There was a day where if he said that to somebody, you would be dropped like a bad habit. Host ok, we will get a response. The president ly, has a unique verbal style, especially on twitter. I would join with many of my fellow republicans who wish he spoke in a little bit of a different way and a way that is more fitting of the office. At the same time, if there is one thing that is true about donald trump, it is he is who he is. That type of authenticity has resonated with his voters, and it is one of the reasons he is so popular, especially with rays republicans. Host with base republicans. Host and we typically reelect our president s. Guest we do. The last three president s have served two terms. That being said, this is an unusual president , and how folks react to that, we will have to see in november. Host we go to keith in denver. Caller good morning. First of all, i have to say all this handwringing over trump he lost the popular vote. One of my questions for your strategists is when did the popular vote stop mattering . Has only happened four times. It is anomalous. Also, it is the expressed will of the American People. We told you we did not agree with your agenda. He no mandate. , parties would say we need you to moderate our agenda, because the American People are opposed to it. Host jim hobart . Thet i think, from republican perspective, we controlled the house, the senate, and the presidency. So it was yeah, we have a mandate to achieve conservative policies. I think that, in some ways, that is what the president has tried to do. So much attention gets paid to his rhetoric as people say why are republicans so supportive of him . It is because he has been able to achieve a lot of conservative policy solutions, whether it is unique asx reform he can be, he has also done some very almost ronald reagantype of policies. Host this is a story inside the New York Times. Mistakes in the 2016 trump polling could play out again in 2020. To the point in this New York Times story is doing a better based onting the polls education and keeping better track of late deciders. Some of the mistakes were what . Weighting by education was one of the biggest. Voters with College Degrees are more likely to pick up the phone then voters without College Degrees. Just in the same way you have to Pay Attention to gender, age, now it is pollsters, and many of us have done this, is we weigh it by education. There are many more voters without College Degrees than with College Degrees. Guest the way we are pulling is different now. The idea of getting a representative sample of voters will get harder and harder. Host mary, you are next on the independent line. Caller im calling to say that six of trumps closest associates are in jail. Doesnt that mean he is like a mafia boss . No. T [laughter] a lot of what people involved in the Trump Campaign were sentenced for were things they were doing with their own finances. Host did you want to respond . Guest i will say some of the folks in jail are in jail because of their behavior around the investigations. Message comes from the top. I think that is a huge problem for donald trump. Host go ahead. Thank you for waiting caller . Message comes from the top. Thank you for letting me speak. I sit here as a geologist. I see things coming out with the new green deal. People seem to be abandoning common sense these days. If you watch the impeachment hearing, read the transcript, people are making suggestions, my interpretation. Seriously . We can read what the transcript land and see where sond quoted the president saying no quid pro quo. Then we have joe biden making a video saying fire the guy whether he was crooked or not. Thank you. Guest some environmental things, fracking for example, has created an incredible amount created an incredible amount of jobs in swing states. Running on a platform that says you will ban fracking like Elizabeth Warren is really theycult to entice voters are going to need to beat the president. Host with every mistake or there was joe biden, a moment in the debate this past week in which he made reference to the first African American senator and the support he is receiving, the senator from illinois. I want to get your reaction. [video clip] biden i am part of the obama coalition. I come out of the black community in terms of my support. I have more people supporting me in the black community because they know me. They know who i am. Three former chairs of the black caucus. The first African American elected to the senate. A whole range of people. [indiscernible] [laughter] [applause] joe biden i said the first African American elected. Pickedthe reasons i was to be Vice President was because of my longstanding relationships with the black community. I was part of that coalition. Joe biden is running on his legacy with the obama administration. His message and what he is trying to do. He sometimes has trouble making a clear point. For ak voters are looking clear, forward thinking message from a candidate. I think biden struggles with that. Host in a general election with President Trump, how does he deal with it . Guest good question. I think there are times when joe biden can say clear things and stumpare times on the when he is not. It is hard for any candidate for sure. Host we will go to diane in ohio on the independent line. Hearing amyr klobuchar mentioning the 10,000 lies donald trump told, i wonder where this is coming from. 10,000 lies, did he tell 10,000 lies individually or one lie 10,000 times . I think the time president obama told me i could keep my Insurance Company and i could not, i think about the times he told me i could keep my doctor but i would have to pay 800 more a month which was not disclosed. It seems like all politicians it seems like all politicians lie. The 10,000 specific number takes me off guard. Host it came from the washington post. The factchecker says donald trump has told 10,000 lies or false claims. Caller so he is like a politician. Guest it is a huge number. People can always make the claim that all politicians lie. I think this is a huge number of false and misleading statements for any president. Host will it matter in the general election . Guest she raises a good point. We hear so much in the media about the president. We hear 10,000 lies. Voters say, really, is that possible . With the impeachment hearing, how many times since trump was elected has there been bombshell this and that . Out. S tend to tune it if im told theres a different ,ombshell seemingly every week did something really be cap and . Significant is this with twitter and facebook . Guest twitter is not as significant because they were not political a lot of political ads on twitter, less than people think. Google announced this week they would be limiting political ads. That, to me, is much more of a question of what will happen than what will facebook to. I think it is bad for discourse to limit political ads. There is a disclaimer at the bottom. I think we can be doing more to make campaigns disclose some ad backup. Overall, i think there should be paid advertising on television. People should be able to respond and get their message out. There is that on tv. Line as well. Be on host how can you limit one persons free speech . How can you limit one persons free speech . Guest joe raises a good point. We should not be placing limits on any type of speech. It is a solution in search of a problem. Problem isink the false, organic claims out there and these Companies Need to do a better job of the organic content on their sites versus the paid ads. I think paid ads are much less of a problem than faults, organic content. Host lets go to gary in indiana. Running a special tonight about the lives of the president. Cnn and msnbc, all they do is lie. Week wasentleman last supposed to have overheard a with the president he but he was dumbfounded when the congressman asked him questions. He did not know what he was talking about. I think there were a lot of lies by the democrats during the inquiry. Call. Thank you for the guest i think one thing that is very true is members of both parties have frustrations with the media. Democrats are frustrated with fox news. Republicans are frustrated with cnn, msnbc, and others. I think from both sides, we need to treat the immediate with more respect and be appreciative of what they are doing. But there is no doubt members of both parties see fake news in one lens or another. Caffe is calling from albuquerque, new mexico. Good morning. Caller even though it may not go anywhere, i think the impeachment inquiry was important. Just to hold him accountable. Otherwise, he will keep doing what he is doing. He is acting like he is above the law. They needed to do something. It is sad the republicans do not seem to be objective about it. Thought about asking whether independents lean right or left . Just a suggestion. Thanks for listening. Host in most cases, you can tell where they are leaning. Did you want to respond . I think impeachment is important. It is important to hear from those testifying what is really going on in government. I think it is good to hold people on the record and be accountable. I think this is an important moment and process. Formero paraphrase president barack obama, is the country revolutionary or evolutionary . Obama i think the barack think barack obama did Amazing Things in office. Forward to getting past the current president and getting back to a better discourse to solve our problems. One of the biggest issues going on is it is hard to have a civil conversation about how to solve big problems like Climate Change , health care, trade, and immigration. That is such polarization we need to figure out how to take solid steps. Host that is the debate in the Democratic Party right now. Ofst theres a big portion the democratic primary electorate that is revolutionary. That is what they want. They say we need to be more evolutionary. Barack obama ran as a revolutionary candidate in 20072008. I think it is easier for him to say as an elder statesman than if he was a candidate now. How the left and right still misunderstand the 43rd president. This past week, senator bernie sanders. [video clip] you describe your campaign is a political revolution. President obama said the country is less revolutionary that it is interested in improvement. The average american does not think we have to tear down the system and remake it. His president obama wrong . A we dont have to tear down the system. With thee to do American People want. The American People understand the Current Health care system is dysfunctional. You tell me how we have a system in which we spend twice as much as the people of any other country and yet we have 87 million uninsured, underinsured. In some cases, we pay 10 times more for Prescription Drugs as the people of canada or other countries. Bankrupteople go because of medically related issues. And come down with cancer that is a reason to go bankrupt. Some people here think we should not take on the Insurance Agency and the pharmaceutical industry. But you know what . If you think back to f. D. R. And j. F. K. And harry truman and barack obama, people have been talking about health care for a long time. You know what . I think now is the time. In the first week of my administration, we will inches medicare for all. That needs no deductible, no copayments, no outofpocket expenses. Host your reaction . Huge health care is a in this country. If you are running for president in the democrat primary, it is super important. This is what bernie has been talking about for a long time. He will keep talking about how to engage on the issue and build from there. Monitor, Pete Buttigieg leads. You attribute this to what . A clear message. He has a clear message of bringing people together. He has done well in the debates. He has been raising money and spending it smartly. All those things matter in a campaign. Host as you look a year out, who is the toughest democrat to face donald trump . Guest joe biden is pretty or hasently run ahead of done the best of any of the Democratic Candidates. I think we have to be careful doing that. Hillary clinton led donald trump in every poll of november 2015. It gets different when the candidates engage. Int we will go to grace quincy, massachusetts, on the independent line. Caller im going to focus on President Trump. First, i am an american. I am neither a democrat or republican. I am so tired of the president always putting down democrats. Women, ands down that disturbs me. Lets talk about donald trump. Number one, he went bankrupt. He could not get financed by the banks in the united states. He had to go to russia. He is a businessman. Number two, think about what he is doing. Everything barack obama has done, he has dismantled it. I would rather see them build on thanks. Putver heard of president down another president. And i am an old lady. This disturbs me. We had an agreement with iran. It was working. Was it the best . Probably not. But you can enhance it. The parisdeal with environmental, he dismantled it. We could have enhanced it. Host thank you for the call. Guest she makes a really good point. President to build on things, not tear down. I think that is what folks are looking for. I think this is part of trumps weakness. A specific weakness with female voters. I think that is continuing to grow. I think we need to look forward to how we can solve these big problems. Host harry from georgia, good morning. Caller thank you, sir. Good morning to you. I will say this. I dont want to sound adversarial to this gentleman, but i want to take issue with some of the things the callers have said. I keep hearing benghazi get brought up. At a time when republicans are complaining about process and all of these secret testimonies, everyone should remember trey gowdy held 108 hearings on benghazi. Over 90 of them were secret hearings. Kevin mccarthy came out and almost lost his position as majority leader by admitting all of these hearings were worth it because Hillary Clintons numbers are way down. Meaning, of course, they were a political deal. Host were they . Guest i think in both cases, the members of congress were investigating what they feel like their voters wanted them to do. , they said wee will not impeach. Ultimately, the democratic voters were calling their representatives and saying you have to at least begin impeachment proceedings. They had no choice but to do so. Rudy on theto democrats line from california. Caller good to see you again. This is to my democrat consultant. The black community will come out like gangbusters in pennsylvania, michigan, and wisconsin. It is not going to happen again. I am not impressed by 20,000 people in new york or berkeley. As a liberal democrat, i would like to see them get 50 people in billings, montana, and anchorage, alaska. Democrat consultant, you might bring that over to them. Thanks very much. Host thanks for the call. Guest engagement is important for these candidates. You are seeing these candidates getting out there and building. A ground game matters. Having people show up and have these conversations. Back toit goes president ial candidates having clear messages. Also, what will be interesting about next year is we have a ton of people on the ballot. Over half a million elected officials in the united states. There are races at all levels. It is not just getting voters on the democratic side and independents to come out and vote for the president also getting them to vote down the ticket in other races. It will be an interesting year. Host in live coverage from new , today at 5 00, you can watchs senator Bernie Anders in New Hampshire for town hall meeting. Headline. His Michael Bloomberg vowing not to take Campaign Donations as well as a president ial salary. He is worth 54 billion. He does not need the money. Guest it is a funny headline. He does not need to raise money. He does not need to take a salary. Our current president who says he is a billionaire, i would like him to take the same pledge. Host to be fair, he is also not taking the president ial salary. He is not taking the salary, but there are a lot of perks that come with being president. Host lets go to the caller in kentucky. Caller listening to both gentlemen, i can say for myself that i would want every person to really listen to the money. Follow the money. How much this person is spending, how much this person has. , iis sad that every caller have sat here this morning and listened. The gentleman on my left with the smirky grin, i watched him every time the opposite person called and puts down President Trump. He just grins. It is sad our country is where no matter our position in this life, forget the money and who is going to buy the position. Listen to what people are voting for. Vote your heart. The bible says we will know the truth and the truth will set us free. You can see that smirk on his face. E is not after truth t host we will get a response. Guest i think voters should be voting on issues. Happy to be here this morning. I want to see a dialog when it comes to issues like health care, immigration, and Climate Change. I think those are all really important. Say to ruthould you as a republican caller . Guest i think like joe, we are both happy to be here. We love hearing from every day voters. Of us is smiling, it is because we enjoy hearing from americans. Host bill in new jersey. Caller President Trump is correct when he says the s,ection will be about crime which the democrats rarely mention, and economy. The president has delivered on jobs for more americans. sanctuary cities are crimeridden, drug infested. The sanctuary cities and inner cities are hurting the very people the democrats purport to help. And they are denying black parents and inner city parents the right to school choice. Host thank you for the call. Guest i think crime is low. Aboute to be thinking more solutions. I want to think about the solutions around criminal Justice Reform and ways to get people out of jail and put them back working and having productive lives. Those are things i am looking forward to seeing. Afterwith democrats going what they call millionaires and billionaires, there is this headline from the wall street journal. The underdog fighting for justice. To these people have sucked out profits in a rigged system or put the economy in a stranglehold. They are using this in a new campaign ad. Lets watch. [video clip] it is time for a wealth tax in america. The vilification of billionaires makes no sense to me. She would ruin what we have. She probably thinks more of cataclysmic change to the Economic System as opposed to tinkering. I am most scared by Elizabeth Warren. You built a Great Fortune . Good for you. I guarantee you built it at least in part using workers all of us paid to educate. On the roads and bridges, all of us help to pay the bills. We are americans. We want to make these investments. Pitch in two cents so everybody else gets a chance. [cheers and applause] i am Elizabeth Warren and approve this message. Host your reaction . Guest the joke is when Goldman Sachs ceos criticize Elizabeth Warren, they should listen and contribute to her campaign. Populistcertainly a sentiment in this country. It is one of the reasons President Trump was able to win in 2016. When you are running against the swamp, you are running against corporate interests. In some ways the message of Elizabeth Warren or bernie toders has similarities trump in 2016. Attack the rich. We talk about Michael Bloomberg not taking donations. Donald trump not raise money aggressively. He is doing so now. I think the antielite message resonance on the democrat and republican side. Guest every time a Billionaire Hedge Fund manager criticizes Elizabeth Warren, it helps her campaign. Ohio. Lets go to dayton, caller if President Trump was not the president , he would be probably sitting in jail. Republicans feel like the Mueller Report did not matter. All those facts did not matter. All the instances of obstruction of justice. The instances in the Mueller Report. If he was not the president , he would be indicted. Republicans are Still Standing behind him. I dont understand that at all. That is really crazy. If president obama had done the same thing President Trump has done, he would be in jail right now. He would be in jail right now host thank you for the call. What are you hearing . Guest im hearing frustration from him, and i can totally understand that. I think the impeachment hearings have been really here and get out what is going on. I will say this to the caller. Whether you are a democrat or republican, get out and vote. Make your voice heard. That is really important. We still have low voter turnout. There are still a lot of people not registered to vote. , we are side you are on hearing this backandforth. We have thanksgiving coming up. There will be a Big Conversation around the table. Have that conversation. This is why shows like this are so important. Host it will be an interesting thanksgiving. What about in your household . Guest my brotherinlaw likes to tweet me a little bit. Hearing some anger but some passion on both sides. People are more interested in the 2020 president ial election than they were in a lot of previous elections a month out. Voters on both sides are incredibly engaged. I think we will see record turnout in 2020. Host you do what . Guest we are a research and polling firm for republican candidates and professional associations and corporations. Host and founder of the campaign workshop. Guest we teach people to run for office. We work on advocacy campaigns around the country. Democrat. 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