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So with that i will tell you and then have him join us. Ambassador to the United States, been on the job for around six or seven months, but a long time of practitioner of trade, economics and how it all fits priorer and how so many to his latest incarnation so we will get to talk about that as well as some foreign and some trade. Welcome. [applause] my people come from neighboring bulgaria but it still hard to not switch. Some people say you could have been called lamborghini. [laughter] oh well. Lamborghini is for later. I want to start by talking about a very recent announcement that has to do with the u. S. And the eu. Where the u. S. Is planning now to put 7. 5 billion in tariffs on the eu, on aircraft and food and some booze because of the eu subsidies on airbus. Where is all of this headed . Is the trade war between the u. S. And europe inevitable . I hope not. Ruledappened is the wto and official rulings that the European Union was subsidizing airbus and that the United States was subsidizing boeing, so both of us were found to have been at fault. We from the first moment told our american friends that when you are in a situation where both of lost a case you sit down and try to settle it. To settle it and discuss the issues that can be applied to others. The u. S. Has decided it was going to apply what is what it legally can apply. How much we would be entitled to receive comes out about six months. And then we will be forced of course to apply our own tariffs. The getting into the key thing here is that as we are talking about this issue, the countries around the world are building civil aircraft hopingith 100 subsidies they can flood the International Market with his aircraft and it is in our fundamental strategic interest, europeans and americans not to be fighting over this issue, but to be settling it and setting the rules for everyone else. As the u. S. And europe are fighting everybody else is gaining ground . Without rules and we can set the rules. I hope we begins discussing very soon and i hope we can avoid most of these negative consequences, including those announced tariffs. You mightve heard there is a u. S. President ial election about a year. Does that help or hurt this effort . Do you see things like the latest tariff announcement as domestic political messaging or do you think just the opposite, that the pending election and the need for the economy to remain in good shape is going to moderate your temper some of the president in stinks. President s instincts. There are no winners in tariff wars and indeed you see also today industrial manufacturing investment in the United States slowing down quite dramatically. And every business person i talked to tells me it is because the insecurity created around the world with the weakening of the World Economy because the trade wars is the reason why they will not take the risk. To invest in things they dont know if they can make money out of. Especially because supply chains as you know, no product is created in one particular city or country. The whole economy is interconnected. Is asolutely if there tariff war or trade war between the u. S. And other major countries of the world that would have a negative effect on their economies and on the u. S. Economy. Chinese vice premier and President Trump our meeting, how do you see the state of play between the u. S. And china and has that been instructive in trying to understand whats next for the eu or do you think they are fundamentally different approaches the u. S. Is taking . Bad trades a really competitor, steals an electoral property, subsidizes companies and products. All these things both the u. S. And eu wanted to stop doing. So the real question is what is the best way to treat that and theres no question in our mind that not only do we Work Together can we ensure not the china plays by the rules, but also whether rules need to be amended such as the wto in some instances. Maximumh the maximal possible consensus around the world. China is a major World Economy, it is out there doing things, very often like i said unfair things, bad things. Goal is to build this alliance. I have another goal, to highlight in massachusetts as i did last week as i did with kentucky in texas and other states, to highlight we are each others best partner by far. What people do not know and they should know is that the European Union fundamentally is 28 major world countries come together coming together and deciding they will eliminate their 28 individual regulatory and legal regimes and combine under one. That, which is a hugely difficult exercise, has created the socalled Single Market in ,urope, the biggest most open most prosperous market in the world. The fact that we have the European Union and therefore that market has allowed the u. S. Companies to be able to set up shop where they want to and be able to trade and sell everywhere to those 500 million rich consumers without any barriers. And thatsolutionary why they make more money in europe than anywhere else in the bigd and thats why we have strong rich European Companies that invest in this come country creating millions of jobs for americans in virtually every state. Efforts to weaken the eu as an organization would hurt u. S. Business . Im arguing we have the biggest relationship anyone has in the world together right now and that if we built on it, we could create even more prosperity for people and this is my goal at least in my job. I want to talk about cat texas and kentucky in a minute but do more Foreign Policy first. Some very disturbing developments at the turkey syria border, what is the eu doing to address turkeys moves into syria . Least two done at things in the past way for hours, our president , our secretary of state, 28 Member States united we all have want turkey to stop immediately. Dangerous andly destabilizing. And also fundamentally weakens the alliance we have against daesh with the way it is dealing with some allies we have in this alliance on the ground in syria. And we have also made it very clear that we will not in any way fund or support any efforts of turkey to forcefully transfer refugees back to syria to change the demographics of the country to basically put them there. This we also think is very dangerous and destabilizing. You can radicalize people, it can take away human rights for millions of syrians and create more violence. Our concern is what turkey is doing now can create more violence and we think we should all be stopping it from doing so. Not beingis wishywashy. Do you think the u. S. Is and you think there has been enough clarity in terms of response from this administration about the u. S. Position on what turkey can do and the consequences . We followhe hollow the development of u. S. Policy in the country but all we can do at this stage is ourselves make very clear to turkey, which is a country to the eu and the world what we as European Union thanks ought to happen. Weve influenced their independently. At the same time we told turkey its legitimate security concerns should be addressed but that is not done with weapons, it would only create more violence and harm turkeys interests. And we will continue supporting turkey in turkey where it has 3 million refugees right now from syria and elsewhere in the eu is the biggest by far supporter of those refugee camps in turkey and the turkish government and we will follow continue doing that. Be supportive and exporting and exploiting this problem back into syria in a way that violates security concerns and human rights concerns. You been on the job since march. Youre saying this like its a good thing or bad thing . [laughter] you have to hit the ground running because theres a lot of stuff. The ground hasnt stop hitting me. [laughter] for those in the audience who really dont know you yet, can you give us a quick minute or two introduction into who you are . You were born in greece but have been the United States into a teenager. I was born in greece and raised in greece and i went to a boarding school there and it i didnt have strong reason to stay in greece. I went to Amherst College in massachusetts and then i didnt know what to do with my life so course i went to law school. [laughter] law in i went to yale connecticut and then i came to washington and practiced at a big law firm here for a number of years and in the greek army found me, every greek male has and ive and i went back got back in greek politics and i stayed. I did many things since then. Sometimes when i look back i so many. Re were i was a Vice President of the European Parliament and then iran the human rights Foreign Policy for the European Union and then they thought he he has been to enough countries doing human rights, lets send into the u. S. Easy rotation. Some of your legal background was in trade. Absolutely. For me to it easier deal with the complex trade issues here because trade issues are the top of the agenda. Somehow a rhetoric that there is in a relationship. For those of you who dont know, trade fundamentally is goods, services and investments and the profit you make off of those. When you look at the openness of the u. S. Market to europe and the European Market to the u. S. And you look at the facts and figures you see the u. S. Has a trade surplus with europe when you look at those things. That is something you never hear , you hear sometimes that maybe there are deficits in goods trade, but the fact of the matter is that it is consumers who make decisions of what to buy and what not to buy everywhere both in europe and the states. People in the states decide there some european goods they want to purchase, many people in europe decide there are American Goods they want to buy and American Services certainly and thats the way it works, we are not unfair to the u. S. And the u. S. Is not unfair to us. We do have some disagreements and what we do is we sit down and negotiate. So im very hopeful as i said before that we can negotiate any disagreements we have. Look at what has happened in the past year when it comes to imports of energy. They have exploded after president juncker and President Trump met. They have exploded because we have decided in europe we want to diversify our Energy Supply to make sure we dont rely on any particular country. The u. S. Has renewed an amazing ability to export energy and we have invested in building the Energy Terminals allowing for that gas to come in. This is when for the u. S. , win for the eu, this is what this can achieve and this is what we will be focusing on. I hope the u. S. Will as well. We close these conversations we often like to talk about one fun thing. There is been a couple of really fun things at your residence party for and about and with many guests from kentucky and some bourbon and a party with some art from texas. You have taken the approach as you have said of flipping the script on an eu party should be about. Share with us a little bit about what you are doing. Usually when ambassadors what investors do is they come to the United States and go around to different states and tell people ways the u. S. Should like them, so you should like europe because all of these things. Thats something i have to do. The opposite happened which is to try and find ways to indicate to americans why the europeans love you. And this is in fact a daily thing. We have 60 million europeans in this country and descendents of europeans who have made families. Built, the we have economic bridges, the personal bridges, the family bridges are huge. They came to my house in washington, which is a beautiful house. Im very well protected. [laughter] in case you are wondering. I walked in and the walls were empty because the previous vasser and his wife were wonderful and had a beautiful collection of their own and took everything away. I thought what can i do so i asked my people and everyone said we will get some european art if we can. I said ok thats interesting, but i dont want my house to be a mirror reflecting myself. I want my house to be a window connecting me to the country have come to serve. And then i thought can we get art from the state. Thankfully for a number of fortuitous coincidences, a fantastic museum in texas decided to donate to me a huge collection of art, a fantastic collection of art which now was in my house and in the case of kentucky, we decided to have a celebration of kentucky in which we had the biggest bourbon producers in the state bring their best im sorry you were not there. [laughter] the best bourbon. Eventsof course in both congressman from kentucky and texas which were probably not that interested to come to my house to see my favorite greek art. But they are there. And of course there was a lot of press and media interest, with the mayor of louisville in the case of kentucky, other mayors in the case of texas. We created something entirely different. We are not in this country to tell people only why we are great for this country although we feel that we are. But we want to tell americans why we are deeply grateful for what youve done for europe and why it is that when it comes to ,he challenges of the future where this is going. Indeed we are subsidizing aircraft is going. Where robotics are going. Where space is at what we will be doing up there. ,ll these are not small issues they can determine big values matter such as freedom, security and we cannot lose that to anyone else. We have to win this battle. Question ofa whether texas is going red or blue, whether its going the you. Thank you so much for spending your time. [applause] i hope, that solemn going to say. The Montgomery County bourbon. That would be awesome. Jamie raskin is a representative from maryland in the Congressional District which is next to the sixth Congressional District. I think my house used to be right at the edge, i live in d. C. Now, of the Congressional District. Of the housemember judiciary oversight committee, so sort of busy these days. A constitutional law professor by training so we will have a lot to talk about. Welcome, been raskin. [applause] thank you for joining us. I didnt realize you were on the outskirts of the eighth district, we have we will have to gerrymander you in. Lets why dont we start with constitutional law because we are all thinking about it and thats what you do. Crazy couple of weeks i think its safe to say. Do you think the current impeachment inquiry is ultimately headed to the Supreme Court . No. There is no role for the Supreme Court in impeachment you look in the constitution. Article once of the house of representatives set the sole power of peach meant, the senate has the sole power to try and impeachment and either convict the president or not. The founders expressly rejected the Constitutional Convention of having the idea of the Supreme Court involved. President trump things all of his problems can be solved by his friends on the Supreme Court but this is one the Supreme Court is not going to be able to solve for him. Its an important statement by the founders about who governs. They considered the idea of making impeachment a judicial process they said its too important to threeve justices who have been appointed by president s. Its got to rest with the people. Were in the period of discovering were not coequal branches. A lot of people will say please treat us like a coequal branch and i want to subject them to to an entire semester of constitutional law. We got rid of monarchy and replaced it with government by the people. The programible of the do itution we the people, ordane and establish the constitution. The very this next sentence is all legislative power is vested in the congress. What happens is the power of america, the people created can constitution and that power flowed immediately to congress. So we represent the people. You get enume ration of all powers of congress, everything from regulating to establishing a post office, intellectual property, immigration, naturalization, all of that is in there and including in article 1 section 8 clause 18 all the other powers necessary to the execution of the foregoing powers. Then article 2 the president s main job is to take care that the law is executed. Then impeachment, the president can be removed. So the president s job is to enforce and implement the laws that we adopt and weve got the power to impeach the president if he violates the law. He doesnt have the power to impeach us. Were at a moment in American History where were trying to recapture the original vision. Are you arguing where executive power has been consolidated over the last at least three president s . Are you trying to argue that congress is actually a more Important Branch or that yes. Ok. Thats precisely what i want to argue. I want to get back to the original design of the constitution because we have this imperial presidency that now is completely off the rails and out of control. This the president has declared that under article 2 he can do whatever he wants. And theyre making the argument in court im not subject to criminal investigation, im not subject to criminal prosecution because congress has the power of impeachment. When congress is engaging and investigation because of the president s high crimes, he says i cant be impeached. In other words he wants to be king. And thats what we had a revolution about. I feel like this might come up in a campaign context. Ok. But so you think that theres not a role for the Supreme Court but if the president does then doesnt that mean that its going to the Supreme Court . This is america. Anybody can sue anybody and they will. So i dont doubt that there will be cases but the courts have started to repudiate the president s arguments. If you look at the last couple of weeks, if you look at the court in new york which just chewed out the president and his lawyers saying what you are asserting is that the president is above and beyond the law. Thats not the system in america. Were all subject to the law. The design of the founders was any of us who aspire to Public Office are nothing but the servants of the people. Think about that. Thats a radical inversion of everything that had gone before. Before the idea was that monarks would get into power and the government was their private property. But weve got it an emolments clause which says that none of us can accept without the consent of congress a president and emolment, of any kind whatever. And the domestic clause says the president is limited to his salary in office which can neither g increased nor decreased by congress and can receive no other payments from the United States government. So every time they go down to mar lago and we spend taxpayer money for the white house staff to say there and the secret service, totally unconstitutional and congress cant bail him out. Thats simply a ban on him receiving any other money from the u. S. Government. So the framers had a very clear conception of what Public Servants should be. And were so far away from that that weve completely allowed the constitutional scheme to be portrayed. The president has converted the presidency into an instrument of selfenrichment and reelection. And thats the exact opposite of what the founders wanted. There are many members there are Many Democrats in congress who reluctantly came to the conclusion that pursuing an impeachment inquiry was the thing that needed to happen even if they didnt like the political implications for them. Setting aside the substance of the inquiry which i think you made your position clear, do you think its politically i wont say stupid. Dunchinge its politically risky . Do you think theres a big hurdle in redefining this message . When you look at the polls impeachment is something americans are warming to or coming around to or moving to. But theres still a lot of mixed feelings about whether its the right place for the country right now and i suspect those mixed feelings may play out in swing states. What do you think are the political risks . Theres a dramatic shift in Public Opinion taking place over the last week. U. S. Is going up about 1 points a day. Fox news found that a majority of the public not only favors the inquiry but favors impeachment and removal from office. The most recent numbers i saw show that 58 of the public favors. Why . Because the public understands and has fassnd on to the story about whats taken place with ukraine. I barely understand that story and i do it every day. People understand a mobstyle shakedown and the president withhe would military and Security Assistance in ukraine that we voted in congress to send to a perceived ally resisting putins aggression and i volvement. And the president used that as leverage in order to extract political information that he wanted the president of ukraine to produce on the bidens. Thats extraordinary. People understand nothing like that has happened before where you have a president who is using the legal machinery of the presidency and the military might and the wealth of the country to coerce a foreign nation to participate in his political campaign. Thats a complete collapse of his private ambitions in the public role. And i go back to the clauses, that was the original sin of this administration when the resident said im not going to guest myself of businesses i own, im going to keep resorts going, and allow Foreign Governments to come over and patronize us. Even in the july phone call from the memorandum that we got by the white house personnel, the president said and we got to stay at your wonderful hotel in new york. Thats why i think weve got to get back to constitutional basics here. And the president has collected millions all over the world, in ireland, scotland, virginia, new jersey, the headquarters of all the corruption the Trump National hotel. Is s that where all this that where all this is going . Or do you think that the impeachment inquiry can or should remain narrowly tailored to issues surrounding ukraine at this point . And we havent talked about other countries. Theres some developments with Rudy Giuliani where things took another turn. Im not sure if everyone does know what this is about. Do you support a narrow focus or a wider, broadened investigation . Its a great question because its difficulty to know what to do because the president is slike a oneman crime wave. There are so many high crimes and misdemeanors flowing out of the white house that the difficult part is conceptualizing how to map them thogget and create one comprehensive narrative. Its very clear to me that the ukraine story is far clearer to everybody than what Robert Mueller described. In other words, the 7 or 8 page memo that we got from the whistleblower is a far more compelling piece of work than what Robert Mueller did in 600700 pages. So i think it begins with that. I think were going to lead off with that. I hope that we do in any event. You can see why. For one thing the president is president now. He was a candidate back then. Now hes engaged in this criminality and wrong doing as president. Two, it wasnt all delegated in this case. Clearly he had giuliani and these new guys, whatever their names are, there are other people involved in the operation but we know from the top that it started with donald trump saying i want to get dirt, and he wanted to cover up russias involvement in 2016 which mueller said was sweeping and systematic and trying to undermine. He wanted to cover that up with a fake story about ukraine. So i think that was part of it, too. So it is going to be a complicated story to tell. I think that ukraine is the leadoff of it but the obstruction of justice has been consistent, pervasive and totally unprecedented. This president has ordered noncompliance, noncooperation with essentially every material legislative investigation that weve got going in congress. Sort of funny the other day when they released the letter saying were not going to cooperate any more. When were they cooperating . They havent been cooperating for months. You dont believe if there was a formal vote it would have changed substantively if the speaker had executed a former vote to initiate this process . You dont think they didnt say that. This is clearly one more obstacle and road bloc thrown up there. The reason they were insisting i think there were two reasons why they were trying to insist on a vote. One was to distract everybody from the clarity of the story, the shakedown against ukraine, the sellout of our constitution, our election, and National Security. And then the coverup of the whole thing by sticking it all in a secret server. So they were trying to change the subject. But the other thing is theyre experiencing real erosion in Public Opinion including in republican Public Opinion. And i think theyre not going to be able to arrest it. But what they want to do is to freeze Republican PartyPublic Opinion at this point. They would like to try to commit the republican members of the house to vote against it because who knows where well be in two weeks or four weeks especially with the outrageous betrayal of the kurds and their exposure to the syrian military, land and air john slauth. I mean, its on slight. Its amazing the president can call out his betrayal for thi his betrayal of the kurds but most cant for his betrayal of the americans. Two weeks or four weeks. Can this inquiry go past the end of this year or do you think as a country realistically, we need to have a gee sigs point by the end of the Decision Point by the end of the year . Its hard to imagine how both things get juggled and the country continues to run. How long can this go on . I think the evidence is overwhelming and i think that a day would only benefit the president. Theyre trying to slow this down with all the obstructionism by interfering with the witnesses, by withholding the evidence. But at this point that hurts them because that becomes another article in impeachment counts against them, that theyre obstructing congress, delaying the process, and were treating it as essentially a concession to the truth of the underlying allegation that is the people are refusing to testify about. Were out of time but i did want to ask you because we always like to end these with one fun element. This wasnt fun . You were telling me recently that you were reading a book that has helped instruct your thinking on these times. What have you been reading . Blumenthals volume 3 of his series about lincoln which is a political biography of lincoln. Its a brilliant series called all the powers of the earth. Sometimes people say things have never been this bad, its never been this pargetsen. Check out this book which has about 120 pages on congressman Preston Brooks from south carolina, his beating of senator charles sum anywhere from massachusetts. Basically beat him nearly to his death on the floor of the senate while Steven Douglas stood by and shuffled some papers and watched the whole thing happen. So youve got to check it out. People were coming to work armed. It hasnt gotten that bad for us yet. I know one of my colleagues has been arguing that people should be allowed to exercise their Second Amendment rights on the floor of the house but so far its been nonviolent. Were going to make it through this period. I want everybody to know the constitution is going to prevail and democracy is going to survive. On an optimistic note. Awesome. Thank you so much. Thank you for joining us. Please turn your attention to the screen for a minute. A common language of how you transform sustainable business. We expanded leed to now. The bank of americas a recent commitment is the most exciting part because we received a substantial grant from the bank and with the clear objective of helping cities in the United States to have the right to be recognized. Im excited to welcome our next guest to the stage. Ambassador, as you know was president Obamas National Security advisor and then ambassador to the united nations. If youve been a coma you may have missed shes on a book she has a book. I know shell be doing an event politics and prose later today. If you want to catch her, catch her there because youre not going to catch her here. Shell get out right after. But we have so much news to talk about but i want to also talk about this book. It is a long, very thoughtful book with a lot of personal history and exploration as well as an analysis of everything from the clinton years to the bama years, and now of course. Welcome. Thanks for joining us. I would have worn my red shoes. You didnt get the memo . I want to start with a little bit of the news of the day because noble prize has gone this morning to ethiopias Prime Minister for his role in brokering a peace deal, and africa is a continent that you paid so much attention to professionally over the decades. Im wondering what you can tell us about ethiopias Prime Minister and what all this means. Well, most warnings these days when the radio comes on as my wakeup, i dont want to get out of bed because theres some terrible news to have to digest. This morning, which was the rare occasion when i was so excited to hear that the Prime Minister had received the noble prize. This is a new leader in ethiopia, been in not even two years, and as soon as he came in his decision was to implement finally the Peace Agreement that we brokered during the clinton administration, that ended the very hot war between ethiopia where almost 100,000 people were killed the deadliest conventional war on the planet at the time. And we got the fighting to end, we got a cessation of hostilities, we got a very detailed Peace Agreement, but the sides had failed to implement it fully so they didnt define their border they didnt demar kate it and it was a cold peace, it was neither war nor peace. He came in and reached out to his counterpart and they have normalized relations and now theres air travel and families can cross the border and theres telecommunications. Its not perfect by any stretch but its a huge step forward. To underscore you did say under the okered clinton. That tells you how long ago it was, back when i was sprightly and young in my 30s. You look exactly the same. What do you think that will mean . There have been many examples of times when you were hopeful about a policy initiative that would lead to more peace and less violence in other countries on the continent and that those hopes were tempered by politics over time. What are your concerns about the prospect for real sort of asting emergence of a more peaceful time and what do you think are the pitfalls there . Im hopeful that the peace will sustain itself. Im hopeful that normalization will continue. There are many challenges within each of the countries, within ethiopia theres still political repression even though hes made some progress in that regard. Theres still political prisoners, still real eetsdznirk conflict. And really it has ar treea has sustained an autocratic government for almost 30 years. So theres a Long Distance to go in each but i think between them theres reason for hope. The other thing i want to say when was the last time you can remember an african won a noble peace prize. Its been a long time. I just think its worth stepping back and acknowledging that there are many parts of the world where were concerned about things going badly wrong. Its nice to be able to celebrate even if just for a moment a place where with the right motivations and efforts things have the potential to move in a positive direction. On that note why dont we talk about some places where some things are going wrong. Like here . Well get to here. Quickly, on syria and quickly on the ukraine. Do you think the u. S. Has clarified its position to the turks clearly enough . And yeah the position is green light. Theres been an effort to redefine i think theres been an effort to try to clean up a huge mess the president made with his base here in washington. You think its political . Absolutely. If you look whats happening on the round first of all president gave erdwan the green light on the phone, we continue to provide aerial imagery through monday when the offensive was about to begin. We did nothing to defend the kurds when they were under assault from the air, and deliberatively ordered u. S. U. S. Ry military personnel not to intercreed to help the kurds. Now were having a few more days of the normal trump bluster about i didnt tell them he could do that. You think this is about the evangelical vote i think its about folks on capitol hill who have stepped out of their box. Republican senators. Yes. The ukraine story keeps evolving. Do you think that it is primarily about the president trying to pursue an investigation of the bidens now or do you think it is more about Rudy Giuliani, business deals . As you have followed the story this week where do you see things going . These are not mutually exclusive. Its certainly about the president of the United States trying to elicit and indeed extort the false information from the government of ukraine that the president can use against joe biden or try to use against joe biden. Theres no question that thats the case. It also appears that there are some shady business dealings going on on the side involving giuliani, some of his associates, now we know the campaign thing looks to be another angle. We need to learn more about what rick perry was up to. Its quite conceiveable in looking increasingly probable that this is a multifaceted merging scandal. The president has maintained that this is much to do about nothing and that hes against corruption. Do you think and you have seen the ukrainian leader come out. You saw what he said. Is it possible democrats are overtorquing this and that the story is unappealing and raises a lot of questions but is not sort of impeachment level . Or in your mind is this an impeachment level inquiry . Its certainly an impeachment level inquiry. I think it needs to be conducted thoroughly and responsibly and i am not for one prepared to prejudge its outcome. But what we have seen and this is why many people are now taking the view that its time to conduct an inquiry. We have concrete evidence in the form of the president s own words that he from ukraine and china at least has solicited the help of a Foreign Government to interfere in our elections. Which is not only illegal, it violates the fundamental premise that our founders tried to protect against. If thats not something that merits an inquiry into impeachment, i find it hard to know what is. I think what the democrats have come to is a recognition that this is so bad that its beyond political calculation. Its not only now a question of is it beneficial or not ben official to launch an inquiryrks is it going to hurt us or help us. I think what theyre saying is if we dont stand up for the constitution and the rule of law, now, then when ever will we . I want to talk about the book now, so im not going to ask you this question that i was going to ask you, which is goudy has been tapped as outside counsel for the white house. Go. I get one sentence on that. I have no idea why he would want to do that. Im just going to leave it at that. Youve been on tv and radio and in papers all week talking about not talking about your book. Promoting your book but not talking about your book because theres been so much other news. So i was hoping that you could spend just a minute telling the folks who have not read your book yet. This is everybody. Right . And ive got a couple of highlights but im going to turn this over to you first. Maybe, what are the two fundamental things you want people to know about you that they wouldnt know before reading this book, and about the way the Obama Administration made Foreign Policy or what you have learned from your experience in the Obama Administration . Well, its a very personal book that goes back frankly to my parents and grandparents and tells the story of their history. My maternal grand parents came from jamaica to portland, maine in 1912 with nothing. One a janitor, and a maid, and they had five kids and in the classic manifestation of the American Dream they scraped and saved and sent all five of their kids to college. Two became doctors one became an optimist one became a University President and then there was my mom who was the youngest who became a corporate executive, sat on 11 publicly traded boards, but most importantly was instrumental in the establishment of the pell grant program. And was lauded as the mother of pell grants when she passed in 2017. Through her effort, 80 million americans have had the opportunity to attend institutions of Higher Learning in this country. [applause] my dad is the descendant of slaves from south carolina. He was born in 1920 and grew up in the worst of jim crow, and served during world war ii at tusskeegie in the seg zpwated rmy air corps. Out of that he emerged very bitter. He was proud to serve his country and an extraordinary patriot who ended up being a governor of the Federal Reserve but he resented mightly that as an African American he had to prove to white people that he was as good as they were, that black people could fly planes as well as white people. But he also resented mightly that he was serving in an Army Air Force that was trying to ensure the freedom of everybody but African Americans. And when he went off base he saw german pows being served in restaurants that he couldnt enter. So this experience shaked him and made him ultimately very resilient about issues of race, which he passed on to me and my brother. And his fundamental philosophy was if my being black is going to be a problem, its not going to be a problem for me. Its going to be somebody elses problem. And between these two parents who came from little and rose through hard work of their parents and their obe hard work to become own hard work to become quite accomplished individuals they taught me and my brother to have faith in ourselves, to believe that we could do what we set out to do, that we werent limited by anything other than our abilities and our hard work. And that core sense of having faith in yourself of having an ambition of serving something larger than yourself is how i raised and its what shaped me. So i spent a good bit of time in the book sort of developing into family and delves into the forces that shaped me as i was raised here in washington in the 60s and 70s. I also get into the struggles i had as a working mother, as a Breast Feeding mother at the state department at 32 when i took over assistant secretary of state for african affairs, as ive had to deal with sick parents and Young Children with health issues, as u. N. Ambassador and National Security adviser. So i try to weve in the personal with the professional and tell a story thats sometimes painful and sometimes raw, but i think it certainly its as honest as i can be. There are a number of our time is so limited but i want to give people a sense of the scope of what the book covers, everything from an assessment of the policy successes or failures or a mix of both in rwanda, in south sudan. Theres a story about giving dick the finger that was you theres a porlings of the book where it sounds like the f. B. I. Did like a counter intel operation on you when you were trying to have some meetings that were the precurser to what became the iran deal. This is like i know you hate this. Theres a scene at the white house correspondance dinner four years ago where someone emerges from the darkness to hug you and whisper in your ear and its donald trump and hes telling you that you did a great job and are getting a bad rap in benghazi. Theres a lot in this book. Theres a lot in the book. You talk a good deal about your family, your children, some of the discoveries of your parents. There is also a recognition of the idea of accepting or acknowledging failures as a part of a successful or generally successful career in public service. You talk about syria and libya. You talk about what president obama and you and the administration learned on the job. Im just wondering if you would leave us with the thought not about the specific policies but building on failures as well as successes going forward. Let me answer that and also try to answer this second part of your prior question. What i hope people will take away in part from this book is that there is a reason why for decades we have had a wellfunctioning National SecurityDecision Making process. One where options are surfaced and analysis is provided and conversation is given to the recommendations made by the president and the president actually considers the outcome of his actions before he takes them. This is hugely important and im deeply concerned that we are losing a sense of what is normal in the moment, and we cant lose a sense of what is normal, because when the system doesnt work whether were working as i described on iran or syria, it doesnt mean that the policy outcomes are perfect but that the proper conversation is ghiven to very complicated issues. When we lose that, we lose any compass in terms of how to effect the National Interest and how to enhance our National Security and work with our partners to accomplish what we need to. So i get in to many of the issues we worked through and wrestled with in the Obama Administration and i try to give a Fair Assessment of where we got it right and where we got it wrong without a lot of sugar on it. But the overarching messages, we need to insist that our eadership maintain a rational, thoughtful National Security decisionmaking process because without that we are unmoored and were now seeing the consequences of it. Weve got to remember what normal is and insist that we get back to it. Thank you. [applause] i thank all of our guest force joining us. I thank all of you our guest force joining us this morning and bank of america for making the program possible. On your out dont forget to sign up for letters. Get some pumpkin stuff, have a great morning. Thank you very much. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions Copyright National able satellite corp. 2019] tonight, former Senior Adviser to f. C. C. Chair tom wheeler and senior Vice President at u. S. Telecom talk about the recent d. C. Court appeals decision on newt ralt. As an Information Service as it largely has been outside of a two year period, was permissible. When the f. C. C. 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