Transcripts For CSPAN Washington Journal 09122019 20240714

Ted huffs that the ceo of the Climate Leadership Council backed by major oil and Power Companies discusses his organizations support for carbon support for a carbon tax. Host it is the washington journal for september 12. In an hour, the House Judiciary Committee will work on on theshing procedures hearing for the Trump Administration. You can see that process play out on cspan 3 starting at 8 00. House democrats are undertaking dozens of investigations of the Trump Administration on many fronts and in this first hour, we want to hear your reaction to the number of investigations on what you think about them. If you think there are too many of these investigations going on, 2027488000 is the number to call and tell us why. If you think not enough, 2027488001. If you think it is about right, it is 2027488002. You can text us your thoughts at 2027488003. Tweet us at cspanwj and post on our Facebook Page at facebook. Com cspan. Rounding up the number of investigations that are currently being conducted by House Democrats is a Congressional Correspondent from bloomberg, joins us on the phone to talk about that. Good morning. Guest good morning. Host you cite dozens in a recent story. Give us the broad scope of these investigations as they are going on. Guest many of those are hunts for president ial impeachment material, but not all of them. Unrelated to president buehlers findings. It goes from trump personal financing to administrative decisions on health care and immigration to its direct involvement, perhaps, in payments to silence women that may have had affairs with him. Dozens of investigations and all ranging in various intensities. Host this week we saw three committees opening investigations. One on the topic of ukraine. Tuesday this week the Oversight Committee look at documents regarding money spent at the president s Scotland Golf report 17th,mber 7 team rob porter, corey lewandowski, and the like. Will this number grow from the number you are currently seeing . Guest it will. It seems almost every week we picked up two or three more investigations. To be fair, sometimes these investigations are little more than an initial letter demanding evidence or testimony from a committee and it seems some of those, we never hear anything after that. They are continuing. The white house and administrations policy of not cooperating has slowed down the process of many of these investigations. Host what are democrats saying about the justification for the number of investigations being conducted . Guest trump has called this wideranging scrutiny harassment, but democrats call it doing their job. When they delve into weather toy giuliani may have tried pressure ukrainian officials or get joe biden on dirt on joe biden or his son, they say that is their job. They can go down a whole list. This involves many committees, not just to judiciary or the intelligence committees. Host if that is the case, what is Congressional Republican reaction to these cases . Guest for the most part, they are kind of in the harassment in terms ofugh administrative actions, they want to look into details and often have their own question. Part, they have sided with the administration, at least in the house. Host talk about todays action in the House Judiciary Committee. What is jerry nadler trying to do in the markup of the process looking at impeachment . Guest technically and officially what he is trying to do is loosen the rules for a hearing so that Committee Staff in public,itnesses have more time to do so giving longer sessions to question and the committee can take evidence in private. With regards to developing a decision on weather or not to pursue articles of impeachment weather or not to pursue articles of a beach men. Wordss say Jerry Nadlers that this is already impeachment is confusing. We are just building a case and there are 6 other committees involved. The larger picture is it seems Top Democrats want it both ways. They want to be able to tell some people that want impeachment that we are doing and impeachment inquiry and others that may fear political retribution in their districts where trump is popular. We havent launched any official impeachment investigation yet. It is confusing and it should not be because a simple vote on the house floor, weather or not the house will conduct impeachment inquiries will be easy to host do. Host if you want to watch what happens when it comes to this impeachment resolution, tune to cspan 3. Billy house, wind these investigations or the number of investigations going on, what about the other process of Committee Works when it talks about policy issues and considering that . Is that still going on . Guest that is going on and you make an interesting point, that is one of the headaches Speaker Pelosi believes she has because essentially talk of impeachment in any context is burying what she says is good policy work and the achievements of House Democrats. The things they want to boast about next year on the campaign instead, basically unknown because all the talk is about impeachment. The activity in the house, what happens if these investigations finish and legislation passes out of committee . What happens when the senate gets a hold of these things . Guest that is another one of the realizations Top Democrats have. Essentially, many of these things die. They wither in the senate. Those those cell on the campaign trail or not we will have to say. Host billy house talking about the number of investigations and the scope. You can find his work at bloomberg. Thanks for your time. Guest i enjoyed it. Thank you. Host now we turn to you when it comes to the number of investigations, we want to get your thinking. If you think there is too many, not enough, or you think the number is right. If you say there are too many investigations going on, 2027488000 is the number to call. If you say not enough, 2027488001. Perhaps you think the number is just about right. Call us at 2027488002 and tell us why. You can also text us your thoughts. If you text that 2027488003 all we ask you to do is include your name, city, and state and keep your comments brief and to the point. You can post at our twitter feed at cspanwj and our Facebook Page at facebook. Com cspan. You can posted there, too. Patricia starts us off, says there are too many investigations going on. Thanks for waiting. Go ahead and tell us why. Caller the reason why there are too many investigations is democrats are scared to death about the enormous amount of success President Trump has received from his policies. Democrats are offering nothing more than bankruptcy and trillion dollar giveaways. Their ideas for america are losing and democrats realize this, but they have nothing else to offer except giveaways to these their socialist base, ir antifa followers. Democrats are bankrupt in financial dealings and their ideas for america and they are desperate. All they do is waste their time, waste their money harassing, trolling the president , who is for us regular, middleclass americans. Host you will say none of the investigations are warranted, then . Caller why would you say that i think no investigations are warranted . I havent seen one that is warranted, but who knows. I dont know. That is all they do. That is all the house of representatives does, investigate and nothing happens. Host lets hear from john in florida, also says there are too many. Go ahead. Caller i think there is too many investigations. They should go on if warranted. They havent found anything and to clarify the ladys last remark, it is not the house of representatives, it is the democrats in the house of representatives. I want to add one last thing. As far as asking for taxes if there is no law to do it, but if they want taxes, i want their taxes. Host with any of the investigations you have heard about, you said there are too many. Do you think any of them involve scrutiny as far as the topics being explored . Guest one investigation as far as collusion with russia. What happened to hillary with her collusion. What happened to bill with his collusion . If you want to get collusion, it is obvious where it is. Host john says there are too many. Angie says there is so much to investigate, it will take them years to get through all the evidence. Sandra atkins off facebook saying too much, i enough. Charles saying so much of his contempt for the rule of law has been demonstrated in plain sight. Kyle harrington off facebook saying anything to distract from their lack of vision for the on. Try and i say bring it this is mary off of twitter saying enough with investigating and running out the clock, there are more than enough high crimes and misdemeanors to warrant impeachment. Not to do so is to be complicit with a criminal in the white house. Well. N also call us as 2027488000 if you say there are too many investigations. If you think there are not enough, 2027488001. If you think the number is about right, 2027488002. The New York Times highlights some of those topics billy house talked about when it comes to congressional investigations. The House Intelligence Committee taking a look at foreign influence over the president and possible attempts to obstruct justice. The possible role of president s and others possible obstruction of justice and abuse of power by the president and his administration being done by the House Judiciary Committee. The house Oversight Committee is looking at possible abuses of the White House Security clearance process. When it comes to house and oversight again, weather the president misrepresented his net worth is one of the topics being explored and the oversight and Reform Committee talking about his alleged use of private messaging by white house officials. That is a number of investigations being looked at. When it comes to the previous from stration, this is 538. Com President Trump is wrong to say what he is experiencing is unprecedented. President ial investigation has been led by democrats and republicans and actually is the norm when the house is controlled by a Different Party than the president. Congressional investigations of the executive branch tend to be concentrated during periods of divided government at least in the house. The number of days spent investigating potential executive misconduct spikes whenever the president and the House Majority party are not the same. At that is some of the responses. They chart out some of the investigations. Most of those investigations clearing under president s nixon and ford. That number has somewhat increased, same levels under the reagan administration. The obama administration, close to 100, about 75 congressional investigations during the time when the president was in office. Stan in delray beach, florida, says there are too many. Caller i think you are asking the wrong question. Are the question is why House Democrats wasting all of our time talking about exactly what the russians want them to do. The russians just want to create havoc. That is the whole intent of what they do. Host why are you connecting this to the russians . Caller why . This whole thing started because supposedly President Trump. Olluded with the russians he did not collude with the russians. I did not hear you. Host i did not say anything, you are listening to the television. Continue your thought. Caller my brotherinlaw was in the intelligence of the u. S. Army stationed in washington. He told me 45 years ago all the russians want to do is. Host we will have to leave it there. If you are waiting on the line, if you are listening to the television, turn it down. It causes a pause in the conversation and that keeps us from communicating directly with you. It was jerry nadler heading up the House Judiciary Committee, starting the work on that process of clarifying what goes on when it comes to impeachment, talks about that process on nbc news. [video clip] the Judiciary Committee has been involved in investigation of the president s various conduct to determine weather to recommend impeachment articles to the house. We have been doing that consistently. What we are doing tomorrow is uspting procedures enabling to do it more effectively. We will be adopting a procedure to enable counsel to crossexamine witnesses after all the members have had 5 minutes apiece. Usther rule will be to allow to handle Sensitive Information privately and the third rule will be for the president s council, the opportunity to submit questions or answers before the committee. Host this is sean from ohio texting us. He says the amount of investigations are about right because there was little congressional scrutiny in the last session of congress, but democrats should focus on passing legislation on important policy measures like gun control and health care. Chris mosley texts us this morning saying it is the job of congress to provide oversight on behalf of the American People. Let the investigations proceed in a thoughtful and methodical manner. Ability toyou the show you can text us thoughts this morning. 027488003 if you saw from some of the other texts, all you have to do is put your name, city, and state read we appreciate those who have done that so far this morning. You can post on our twitter feed and Facebook Page. You heard from jerry nadler. It was the House Majority leader Kevin Mccarthy yesterday talking about the work of democrats on that front. [video clip] when i watch the Judiciary Committee talk about impeachment, it reminds me what when you run for chair, you dont campaign for the country, you campaign for your congress. What did chairman nadler promised the Democratic Congress the day after the election . He promised he would be the very. Est chairman for impeachment he made that commitment to the democratic conference. That has been his focus and what he spent his time on. They went through every road they could to make sure they could find something, they did not. This country is too important to play political games like that. It is time for democrats to stop focusing on tearing the president down, but actually build america up. Host this is edward and washington, d. C. , says there are too many. Good morning. Caller i want to say in there are not enough investigations right now, but we everything. I worked under the state department and i believe what they are doing in the intelligence business because our country is important. Our nation is in a constitutional crisis. Host then why do you say there is not enough, specifically . Caller we cannot get everything right now because there is not enough time, there is not enough investigators. This president has diminished our intelligence agencies and fought against intelligence agencies. There are 17 intelligence agencies across this nation. Look in the russian literature. In the russian language, it describes the president ike this president like this number 45. Host lets hear from caroline in washington, d. C. As well, says there is too many. Hi. Caller hi. Host you are on, go ahead. Caller i think there are too many investigations. It has been two years. They have been moaning and groaning about how they were going to get proof with the mueller probe. We have to move forward, we have too many issues moving going on and they are focusing on the wrong thing. Host from the number of investigations, you are saying there is nothing worthy of investigation in your mind . Caller that is correct, especially tax returns. Host kentucky is next, we will hear from bruce. Go ahead. Caller i just have a data point. Trump is often attacked on the. Moluments clause i stayed at the trump hotel in d. C. Gorgeous place. I could not get a taxi that morning to get on time to my event. The driver goes you are lucky i even came down here. Thele avoid this hotel elite avoid it, people leaning left avoid it and there is not the traffic. I came down here on a whim and you are lucky you caught this ride. That is an actual experience. People go out of their way to avoid some of the Trump Properties to get back at trump and yet they dare to claim he benefits on the basis of the emoluments clause. Host you are basing that experience then to say there are too many of these investigations going on . Caller there is a data play, that is one of the claims of the left that he is as president , because he owns so many things, he is benefiting unfairly based on the emoluments clause and that is one of his violations they go after him for. I am saying i have that one experience that belies that claim. There is an active avoidance of facility. I had real trouble getting a taxi that next morning. Ohio, saysis mike in there is too many. Many. there is way too i did not like trump, i did not like hillary, i did not even vote. Let me tell you something. I am going to vote for trump and let me tell you why. This man has done everything he said he was going to do. Tohas even had to make deals extract money from different organizations and parts of the government to build the wall, the wall which democrats wanted to build no more than 5, 6 years ago. Host why do you say there are too many investigations . Caller this is nothing but a distraction, pedro. Coup going on. They are distracting us and what they are doing is i am so upset, let me tell you. Our people this stupid to fall for this stuff . They are doing everything to get this man out of office because he is managing to make them look bad. What have they offered us for decades . Nothing but poverty and freebies and raising our taxes. Host that is mike in ohio, this textnt in texas off of our service. He says too many, the only one i want is the Senate Investigation of the origins of the mueller investigation. Is a never ending circus from democrats looking for brownie points. We will hear from don next in riverside, california. Caller i think there are too many investigations. We are not getting anything done. How many times have democrats tried to pull something out of their hat and it turned out to be rubbish . Shame on democrats. Shame. Host the number about right. We have given you a couple different options. If you say to many, it is 2027488000. If you say not enough, 2027488001. We have given you a line to say it is about right, 2027488002. Moni giomageo ni is. You are on. Caller yes. I am an independent. I was a democrat at one time and a republican at one time. I watch these republicans and democrats. From hampton,ni virginia, i watched both parties do the same thing for years. Neither one of them is doing the job, let the man do his job and lets move host this country forward. You called and said the number of investigations was about right. Why do you say that . Caller it was about right, but they are not doing it right, they are doing a piece there and a piece there. I read the Mueller Report and he was a complete disaster. Do the job right. Host if you say they are not doing it right, how should they do it . Caller these guys are lawyers, i am not a lawyer. Investigations. The way they do investigations, it is like how did these guys lawyers . Lets hear from rick host in napa, california. He says there is not enough. Caller greetings from the peoples republic of china on. Republicans spent 50,000 on investigations, 10 days of congressional hearings about the andton Christmas Card list i have got to say, nancy pelosi better start investigating because this guy is getting away with murder. Host when it comes to her view of impeachment, it should be more like democrats in congress that are pushing for these investigations . Caller yeah, she is committing political malpractice right now. She would have been drummed out of the Republican Party for what she got away with so far. Is a Speaker Pelosi centerpiece on these investigations and impeachment going on in capitol hill. The House Judiciary Committee at 8 00 this morning working on their framework for how they will move ahead. You can see that process on cspan 3, cspan. Org, and our radio app. Off of twitter, thoughtful processes says this president and his administration could be investigated for 100 years and still not fully expose the depths of corruption. Bill is next in tennessee says there are too many investigations. Hi. Caller i wonder if they know how ridiculous they look and sound. It is pathetic, what they are doing. Lets support our government, support our president. He has done a good job, look at what is going on. They say they are pathetic host why do you say they are pathetic . Caller you dont see it . That is another thing, you and your liberal network. Claim theyade the are pathetic, tell us why. Caller they keep on drumming on things that dont exist. You have nadler that waddles around and makes these comments, you have people sitting in congress eating chicken, they are pathetic. They are ridiculous. I an old man, i have been around a long time. I served in the armed forces for some great president s. One of them was kennedy. It is just pathetic. Host lets hear from lola in florida, says there are too many investigations. Go ahead. Caller i totally agree with every caller that has previously many. That there are too as far as investigations and why i believe that is they talk about trump getting away with this, that, and the other. If we are going to compare apples to apples, what about obama giving cash, 106 billion cash. Now i have heard a couple 18res, 15 million to million, that he just bought a house to live in. Everybody wants to talk about what trump has, what he did, i think trump should have run years ago because he has always been america first. I have watched different interviews, different things, the man is me and my son talked about this in 2012, it just wasnt his time yet. Says seattle, washington, there are not enough investigations, good morning. Caller good morning to you. There are absolutely not enough investigations. What we actually need is some of hearingson type public. We have all these rightwingers in saying there is too much investigation, the fact of the matter is, you understand, i hate to disappoint all of you all, but you are waiting until these hearings you understand, inform the people doing. Hat this guy is wait until they understand he is enriching himself and breaking the law with emoluments and all this stuff. Host we heard our previous reporter guest telling us there are dozens of investigations going on, you are telling us there is not enough. What else needs to be looked at . Caller they need to get witnesses to come in and tell what this guy has done. He is blocking everything. He wont let people come in and testify, that is against the law. Ande guys are people evenhanded right along with the executive office, they want to do their job. They want to investigate why he is making himself rich off of our money. Host denise is next in maryland, says the amount of investigations just about right. Go ahead. Are enoughre investigations because, as we know, the people in congress have staff that do a lot of the background work for them. They are the ones doing the work for these investigations so the people in congress can do the business they need to do. My biggest concern was the diversion of money from the military and especially for military families. Being a veteran myself and also growing up, my father was a veteran, the programs on the basis where the families give the soldier or military member the piece of mind knowing their nowly is safe back home and we are taking those type of things from school and everything, they have to worry already being deployed about the safety of their family. Ast do you think there is balance going on currently in congress between the number of investigations of the Trump Administration and action and work on policy matters . Caller i do believe that before, theyi said have the staff to do the background work so when the member is up there talking about passing a law, they already have that information. It is not like they are working by themselves, they have a team behind them. Host that is denise in maryland. Three lines for your input. If you say the amount of investigation is about right, 2027488002. If you say not enough, 2027488000. And too many, 2027488001. cspanwj is how you text us. Facebook page is facebook. Com cspan. Or texting, 2027488003. Kelly in michigan texts us this morning saying for the amount of investigations, it seems like they cannot keep up with as many crimes, the recent scandal with the military is another example the presidency. He obviously has something to hide. Exting is available to you all you have to do is put your name and city and state. Patrick in pennsylvania says there is too many. Hello. Caller yes, i think there is too many and i wish they would spend more time on the budget and less time on these investigations. If they would Work Together for a while, they would get something done. Host gary says not enough in florida. Caller donald trump he has committed so many crimes for 40 years, donald trump, citizenship needs to be revoked and he needs to be kicked out of this country. Host the New York Times highlights on top of the congressional investigations going on, state and local investigations taking place including the new York Department of Financial Services looking at insurance practices, the new jersey attorney general looking at contributions to the inaugural committee and the attorney general looking at the role of the president s children in the inauguration and pending investigation of Paul Manafort and the allegations of misuse of charitable that also being looked at by the new York Attorney general. This is on top of congressional investigations we are asking you about particularly from democrats on the house side if you think there are too many, not enough, or just about right. From tom in massachusetts, west springfield, hello. Caller hello. Host tom in massachusetts, hello . Caller hello . Host you are on, go ahead. Caller i think they are investigating too much. If there was anything to find, they would have found it by now and by continuing all these investigations by focusing on that, they dont have to actually do anything to solve the real issues in the country. Host that is tom in west springfield. Cnbc reporting Michael Cohen agreed to cooperate in an investigation into weather the Trump Organization falsified Business Records according to a source who told the situation to nbc news, cohen signed an the agreement stipulates he will cooperate with the office in the investigation. The investigation could result in fines against the Trump Organization. Next, in st. Louis, missouri. Said the amount is just about right. Caller good morning. I think the amount is just about right. The president is corrupt, obviously he needs to be investigated. I think people need to look back at al capone. Wasapone was a murderer, he a bootlegger. He was all these things by proxy. He had all these other people around him and a lot of the family, you know, they do things like that. Donald trump idolized a lot of those behaviors. Jim inets hear from illinois, says there is not enough investigations. Caller hello, pedro. How are you . Host i am well, thank you. Go ahead. Caller it is good to be on cspan. I watch you every morning when i get up from 6 00 to 9 00. Missourifor the guy in being my neighbor. I thought missouri was smarter than that. This investigation has been going on nearly three years. Nothing has really come out of it at all. The point i want to make is to the cspan listeners, jerry trump was trying to build a development. There along the riverfront. They were battling out then and this is what this is a grudge from 30 years ago, 40 years ago over new york real estate. It is part of it, but not all of it. Host you are calling on the line saying there is not enough investigations. Is that the case you are making . Caller i usually call your 2027488001 for conservative or. Epublican host says there is too many investigations, go ahead. Caller i would like to make a the Mueller Report. R the Russia Organization pulled 31,000 reports off an apple wikileaksnd gave 21,000 of those reports. This Apple Computer was owned by the assistant manager of mrs. Clintons report and wikileaks gave this report to the news media the day before the Chicago Campaign opened and that is what took mrs. Clinton down. Host how does this relate to democrats and their investigation of the Trump Administration . Caller it puts blame on the Apple Computer and podesta leaving. I dont know anything about computers, letting the russians pull 31,000 reports off. Took mrs. Clinton down. Host we will hear from robert off our text service. There are not enough investigations, he writes. The house needs to continue with if you want to text your thoughts and about the topics we are talking about, it is 2027488003 is how you do that. When you text, all we ask you to do is a couple of things. Tell us your name and what city and state you are in. He will be discussing House Democrats before they go on retreat. The president will address them 7 00 tonight. You can see them at cspan and cspan. Org. You can watch for it on our radio app. You can download that off your phone and listen to it. Willcomes as democrats appear in the debate tonight. There is a story leading up to that in the New York Times, two heavyweights prepare to meet in the ring for tonight saying it highly anticipated warren steadily climbed the polls to challenge him. Mr. Biden is eager to stress his experience. Weather obliquely or overtly, he is prepared to seize on one of warrens strengths, her bold policy plans and use that to accentuate his own record of achievements. To pursue they personal premed us , but sheted broadside has emerged onstage as a skilled advocate for her message and shown she is capable of defending her farreaching proposals. Look for that to play out in the debates that will take place tonight. We will go to greg talking about the investigations of the trump ministration by House Democrats. Greg says the amount is just right. Hello. Caller i did not say that, pedro. I dont think there are enough investigations. I thought i was calling the correct line, but good morning. 40 year watcher of cspan every day for 40 years. I usually make my calls every 30 days. There is not enough investigations. One that i would point out very early, had the media done their job, they would have looked into the kind of relationships that donald trump had in new york city with all the mafia families and stuff by being in the construction business. Host why is that relevant with House Democrats as they proceed . Caller it was relevant not only and relevantcrats to the president to know you had a president coming into the office who had that kind of relationships. Some exceptions the things the president did were not as near egregious as the things this president has done. Host the current number of investigations going on against democrats, what specifically should be looked at besides what you brought up already . Caller i think there are other things that should be done. There should be more investigations into the russia thing. Mueller let the country down. Again, there is a lot of evidence that showed there was collusion and collaboration with the people working for trump with this russia thing that stole the election and influence the kind of response it did. The media let us down. Int lets hear from allen new york, says there is not enough. Caller one of the areas of further investigation should be accessible from citizens themselves. Second Amendment Gun rights died andefore sclia they said even though the constitution gives a right to a militia to bear arms for supposedly collected defense, they translated that into an individual right not only to bear arms, but to sue have standing to sue for the right to bear arms individually. If that is the case, why isnt their childrens futures are threatened by the the of the president right to put the president s isers in a trust while he being investigated. These are things individual citizens should be able to go just as the Supreme Court allowed citizens to go in and defend their Second Amended rights. Host lets hear from tom in california, says there are too many. Hi. Caller how are you doing. Host fine, thanks. You are on. Caller i used to be a democrat and now i will vote for republic because i think donald trump is. Oing a great job host our topic is the is are there too many investigations. Tell us why . Caller democrats have been saying that for almost four. Ears i have been telling my whole family, vote for donald trump. We used to be democrats. There are not they are nothing but lost people fighting among each other. Host lets go to gary, fletcher, North Carolina. Hello. Caller you are hello. Host you are on, go ahead. Caller i am a democrat and right now the country is running pretty good, there is not much. Lse for us to do if you look hard enough, you might find something, but we dont have nothing else to do. Host a new york, michael says there are too many investigations. Hello. Caller hello. I dont understand why someone would want to impeach the president. He is doing a very good job. We need a president like him. We dont need obama or some weak president. We need a strong president who can bully world. Host when it comes to the investigations, why do you say there is too many . Caller all of those are not relevant. Obstacles for the president. He can put a base in every country in the world. Europe, africa, china. We want somebody who can get a lot of money from every country in the world. We have to be the bully in the world. This is my opinion because we are the strongest country in the world. Host that is michael in new york. Many of you commenting on weather there is too many, not enough, or about right. You can tweet us, post on our Facebook Page and text us as well. There is an analysis piece in the New York Times taking a look at the election in North Carolina that took place this. Eek in the ninth district the bracing takeaway for many in cities and suburbs who were once central to their base. Democrats are continuing to struggle with workingclass whites who once represented a pillar of their own coalition. Results in a district from rlotte to fayetteville brutal National Campaign that seems destined to become the political equivalent of trench warfare with rallying their supporters clashing over a small slice of terrain. We will hear from bill next in warren, michigan. Good morning. Is i wouldcomment say there is just enough. We think about it. For all these people saying it is taking all this time away, all this taxpayer money, it is doing all of that. Let the people that are being investigated answer these questions. If you have nothing to hide, it would have been over already. I was always taught if you did nothing wrong, why not say it and be gone. Host if you say there is you saythere, why do the amount of investigations is currently about right. Caller i believe there is something there. If the president is so afraid, why is he afraid there is too many investigations . Host not enough is what diane says in lake city, south carolina. All this mess about trump. Host that is diane in lake city, south carolina. This is the wall street journal. The president talking about what he was considering at one time a tax cut on Capital Gains now not considering that. The wall street journal reporting President Trump was briefed about the complex legal and regulatory issues and concluded at this time he does feel enough the benefits enough of the benefits will go to the middle class. In 1990 bought 100 thousand dollars worth of stock now worth 1 million would pay taxes on 900,000 in Capital Gains even though some of that. S due to inflation work on the administration when it comes to homelessness. F stein and others writing a team of Trump Administration of zles toured a Facility Administration officials toured a facility as they searched for homeless rehome people. The president directed aides to launch a crackdown on homelessness in california, spurring an effort to determine. Ow to deal with camps one Administration Official with knowledge of the visit said there were discussions about an announcement related to californias growing homelessness problem. A second official said any decision could be premature and not on the current schedule for the trip. Roger in indiana says the amount of investigations are too many. Hello. Caller thank you for taking my call. The investigations are really just about vilification of the president and the depreciation of his integrity. Its all about political gamesmanship. They end up fighting over this, spending all this time and money on it just to create a smokescreen so they dont focus they focus on the bad, bad. The media has done this. Be respectingd to the office of the presidency and giving him the dignity he deserves weather we like him or not. Or not. Er we like him democrats are making this deal about trying to destroy the presidency because they are scared to death of him. They want dont want somebody to be in charge over there politics. And finish your thought, roger. Caller that is the real reason behind it. Caller good morning, pedro, and thank you for cspan. There are far too many investigations in the house. The American People we put these people in congress in the house and the senate to do the. Ork of the people what have democrats done. They have literally done nothing except investigate. This is a ploy. This is a divergent from what will be coming down the pike when these reports come out. When they come out, democrats are going to be in a lot of trouble. I think it is disgraceful when you think about what they have done to this man and family. Donald trump has done many things yes in his own way, but if it werent for him, we would not even have progress of on. Mmigration ht now, they dont have they know the American People are not in favor of that. Host diane from texas texting us saying the amount of investigations of the president is just about right to ensure President Trump is elected. Tim says the house is responsible to begin impeachment proceedings. I have little faith. It is just a Big Money Party dance. Bob in california says it is time for an increasing in investigations. The more democrats waste their time, the better it is for election victories for republicans and this is julie in minnesota saying there is a need for more investigations though impeachment proceedings are needed to access information in a timely manner. Texts we areof the getting through the Texting Service we launched this week. If7488003 is that number you want to text us. You can include your name, city, and state. Keep your comments short and brief. If they come in and they are applicable to what we are talking about and put them in the mix. From akron, ohio, this is john. Hello. Caller thank you, pedro. I heard the comment earlier that President Trump was getting rich off the american taxpayer. President trump was rich before he went to washington. The people that need to be investigated are those that go to washington that are not millionaires, but leave washington as multimillionaires. Thank you, pedro, for this opportunity. Host that is john in akron, ohio. A two hour program for you today. The house will come in at 9 00 and when it comes in, we will end this program. We will talk with a legislator and also talk about issues concerning Climate Change. I totally agree the investigations have gone on too far and too long and wasting our money. The investigation should be with hillary clinton, and the president is continuing to work for america, so democrats will lose big time in 2020. They have nothing else to give americans. On this topic. Coming up, we will talk with susan wild of pennsylvania, talking about her push for Mental Health legislation and we will hear her story next. And the claimant leadership council, a group backed by Major Oil Companies, talking about his organization push for carbon tax. That is coming up on washington journal. 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Suddenly all of america was hearing about cages and secret warehousing of these children. Announcer watch book tv every weekend on cspan2. Washington journal continues. Guest recently spoke on the house floor about her personal experience with suicide. Aware, todaye marks the one month anniversary of the death of my life partner. What most people dont know is that her death was a suicide. A care innot have had the world. He was 63 years old. He was financially secure and had a warm loving family and dozens of friends. He loved them all. Grasp seemingly did not what his absence would have on those who loved him. Wild,we have susan serving the seventh district of pennsylvania. Good morning. What made you decide to tell the story . It was a difficult personal story, but as the month went on, i realized i had a platform, and i felt it was just critically important to elevate the discussion about Mental Health issues generally, suicide in particular, because i think we are close to an epidemic of it. I just felt it was important to do. It was more a decision of taking my position and elevating a discussion. T how does the federal go federal government do with these issues . Guest we have to do better. These issues are really inadequate in this country, the amount of attention that we pay to it. We know we have schoolchildren who are affected by childhood experiences who are not being screened. 60,ave men over the age of white men over the age of 60 are the fastestgrowing segment of suicide. We know about veterans and lgbt youth, but there are no boundaries. I really feel strongly that we have to we have to treat Mental Health the way we do physical health. We do not do a good enough job with physical job physical health, but we need to elevate the Mental Health aspect. Host what type of Services Specifically go to Mental Health and counseling on these issues . Guest there is some funding for some states, including pennsylvania, for Mental Health clinics which would essentially peopleone stop shops for who need diagnosis, treatment, follow up. But it is a pilot program. Working on some legislation that we have not yet introduced. It is not finalized yet, where increase theally access, make it affordable, make sure it has parody with physical health needs. Host does the affair Affordable Health care act offered any avenues . Guest it does. Studies have shown it hasnt actually been implemented. Talking aboutt is Mental Health legislation. If you want to ask her questions about it, for those of you in the easterns and central time zones, 2027488000, and the pacific time zone, 2027488001, you can tweet us at http twitter. Com cspanwj. Specifics statistics tell us the 10th leading cause of death is a result of suicide. Expand on that. Guest you are correct. 2017 45in 20 does thousand people died by their own hand. Veterans are dying at record rates from suicide. The other area that we have not touched on yet our kids on college campuses. One of the things i have sponsored is bringing greater Mental Health care to students who are often for the first time away from home, it may be do not know anyone else at the school, their former support system is gone. We are also seeing rising numbers of suicide on college campuses. That is tragic. Host when it comes to the effort for legislation for suicide, is this bipartisan . Is there an effort to make it bipartisan . Most one of the gratifying things that came out of my experience when i gave that floor speech was the bipartisan overtures from some of my republican colleagues who express problems happening in their own communities. When i went back on to my district and even right after i gave that speech, i had so much wherech from people suicide had affected their lives and they never felt they could talk about it, a prominent member back home till me that his mother who had committed suicide, but nobody knows, when he was a young boy. Stories like that need to be told. I am happy to be the public face of this issue. The stigma has to go away. That was really a big part of why i did that speech. If you dont have the public pat platform, you can talk about it, and everybody thinks it is an isolated situation, that would never happen, but i thought it was important to be told. Host did you hear anything about we needed to Work Together about this . Guest i have. It comes down to a matter of funding for that is generally the area where we have disagreements, but there seems to be a desire to work on these issues. A dollar figure that comes to mind . Guest unfortunately not. Im not in a position to give you that information. Host we have a caller, this is lower a from california. Go ahead. Caller i was calling and because i have experience with both sides of suicide. Suicide in myed life, and i have also had two and is commit suicide, know what its like not to feel like you are worth anything. I know what its like to feel like nobody would make a difference if you did die. Sorry, i will be quick. My two friendsn killed themselves, there was all of the what if, if only i could have, and that left me with that. I just know that i did not want to make anybody feel that way, but sometimes it just feels like life is too heavy. Guest i empathize with you. Position,he same still am pretty constantly question whether you could have done more. I have made it my business to learn a lot about things that people who surround people who might be suicidal, what you can say, the way to approach them to talk to them, not to ask them open ended questions, but to be specific. Are you feeling suicidal . Have you made a plan to commit suicide . I hope that you are reaching out to people. I hope that you have a support network. If you dont, there are suicide hotlines that i strongly income encourage you to call because they can help. They are highly trained and want to help you. Pennsylvaniaaster, this is vincent. Topic that iis a am very passionate about. In 1998 i was hit by a drunk driver while i was walking. I am not a surgical continent, but i got caught up in this opioid epidemic. I suffer everyday. I also suffer from major depression. My pcp doctor and Mental Health dr. , i dont know why i hear, i dont treat pain, you have to talk to that doctor. That doctor, why is my psychiatrist given me so many problems about anxiety medicine. I dont know, youll have to talk to them about it. Why cant these two doctors get together and do whats best for me because you can have the best people on those hotlines, but pointou reach a breaking and youve reached out to your doctors and everybody here, what is left, other event if i was a dog, somebody wouldve put me to sleep a long time ago. Guest i hear the desperation and your boys. This is exactly what i think why i think we need one stop Mental Health care shopping. Too many people talk about the fact that they go to their chimeric care provider who wants them to see a Mental Health care provider and then that person once you to see a psychiatrist for medication. Its three different places, three different times. It is difficult, and there doesnt seem to be any communication between them. Also, when you mentioned chronic pain, my beloved carrie had chronic plane pain. I am very aware of how difficult that is, and the worst part is no one can see it. Only you can feel it. I think the feeling of being alone is so much worse because nobody its not like a broken leg, you are not in a wheelchair, so people often i think question whether it really exists, and that contributes to the feeling of loneliness. Believe me, i am with you and i feel for you. Keep working on finding a solution, sometimes chronic pain cannot be gotten rid of, but the depressive aspects i believe can be. Host this is tammy from cleveland, ohio. Caller i wanted to make a. Omment i would like to bring up the fact of how suicide also ties untreatedtion and Mental Health issues. Ultimately did not have any drugs in his body at the time of his death, but he had fought for the past six years to get a diagnosis, it either addiction, getting Addiction Treatment claiming to help with Mental Health, but people are falling through the cracks or they feel that is what happened to my son. He felt like there was nothing else he could do, that he was beyond help because they were not addressing his Mental Health issues. So much aiction is part of this. Many people, who are very addicted to painkillers and other forms of drugs, i think are almost committed a slow form of suicide, and then of course trying to get out of that cycle of addiction leads people to a complete feeling of desperation. Integrate are different kinds of health care. Addiction is a physical problem as well as being a Mental Health issue, and we got to integrate those and treat them together so that people are not being shuttled around. My heart goes out to you for your loss. It really does. I cannot imagine as a mother having lost a child to suicide. Host you spoke about the program in pennsylvania. Tell them a little bit more about how this works. Guest the way they work is by bringing providers under the same roof so that people literally, its one stop. There is from intake all the way through to treatment, it is limited so far. I would like it expanded. It depends on federal funding. Some states have had it so far. Pennsylvania has reported great results, but it must be accessible to more people. I think a lot of people dont even know it is out there. I really take it has to be the solution because as these people have demonstrated, one of the greatest frustrations is its careasy for a family physician to say i want you to see a psychologist, and then the psychologist says you need to see a psychiatrist in order to get medication. The patient is the one in the middle who really needs the guidance, but theres no one there coordinating all of this treatment. Host this is from baltimore, maryland. Go ahead. We just go around in circles. I wish you had this to could know thee composition of this problem. An goesk community through all sorts of issues, and we got all of these other issues. In thesekill ourselves ways, but the White Community cannot deal with these strengths. In maryland, this is all over the streets. Host what would you like our guest to address . Im trying to say it is everybody, someone took my job, now im going to crazy. I just want to take medication because i am stressed out. Could just address, one of the things i hear and what youre saying is that some communities deal with better than others. The other thing is i think youre saying you dont see suicide as much in your community, but i would guess that there is a lot in the way of Mental Health issues pretty yesterday we had a hearing in aboutducation committee adverse child experiences, children who have problems, a parent is incarcerated, there is gun violence around them. Thingse experiencing that will cause Mental Health issues for them. These are the kinds of things that we have to address. Every community has a different set of circumstances, there are no boundaries for these issues. Host for those who have trouble economically for this kind of health, what does the government provide . Caller not enough. Mental health care is extremely expensive. People who are fortunate enough to have it in their insurance coveredit most often is at a lower reimbursement rate. Many people dont have this coverage at all. We are working on creating a bill where people could have, if they had a qualifying life event , a death in the family, a partner committing suicide, that that would be constituted a qualifying event whereby they could then add on the Mental Health Care Coverage that they need. That is not currently available. It is not considered a qualifying life event. Susan wilde, a democrat from pennsylvania, talking about Mental Health legislation. For those of the you in the eastern time zones, 2027488000, and the pacific time zones, 2027488001. A couple of the topics before we let you go, just came back from august recess. What kind of things did you hear about from constituents . Guest when i go back to my in theye bring call and ask for an appointment, and i meet with a series of them on all different kinds of issues. Ande are enjoyable informative. I hear about things that i would not other wise hear about. I also visit manufacturing facilities. My district is a manufacturing kind of district. The issues we talk about there tariffs,rily trade, and lack of workforce. Workforce develop the and getting enough employees for these employers hooky that she could contribute rater to our gdp than they are. Host we heard the present push off a new round of tariffs for china. What you think about that move and the way the president is approaching this . Time what i hear all the is that manufacturers and businesses need certainty. We may have pushed off the tariffs for a couple of week, but thats just another layer of uncertainty. Concern abouthis lack of strategy, about creating policy by tweet could they wake up every morning not knowing what to expect for the business. That has created a real sense of uncertainty, concern, and its got to change. We need a specific trade policy that is well thought out. Host this is carolyn from california. Go ahead. You so much for what you are doing. This is incredibly important issue that needs to be dealt with it what i would like to find out is what is the best way for us to find out if there are programs that you are putting forward that we can support . Guest the easiest way is to and i alsoress. Gov, would encourage you to look at my website as well as your own s website. Fine are some very legislatures in california, and reach out directly. We listen to our constituents. I get an almost daily roundup of what we are hearing from people , so while we are in d. C. It is important that we hear from the people back home. I would encourage you to call s office. Slator this is an issue, it is near and dear to my heart and please feel free to reach out and remind my office that you called in on cspan and you have some things you want to talk about. Host this is denise from michigan. I left my significant other three month ago. It has devastated me. Leave people the name of a book. Understanding your. Icide grief it has been wonderful to read. There will be a five cake 5k , and it is ang Suicide Prevention organization. It is nation wide. I want people to know they can get involved in that organization and maybe there will be a 5k in their area. They are doing walks around this country later this month. They do a great job trade i have met with emperor they are wonderful people and incredibly caring and concerned. Also thank you for mentioning that book. I had not heard about that. My heart goes out to you. Host there is a national Suicide Prevention lifeline. Is that federal or private . 1800273 good morning. You are next. Go ahead. I am calling to let you know that these people who are suicidal should have a building they can live and to be monitored and cared for. I think it would be one step ahead if they could have a monitored and special apartment building, like a one or two bedroom apartment. Guest one of the biggest problems is identifying who is suicidal read that is where friends and family and work colleagues can be so important, to watch people, observe observe changes in behavior and withdrawal, people who use to want to go out after work and no longer do. Its really important for all of us to watch the people around us because nine times out of 10 people who are suicidal are not going to be telling people around them that they feel that way. Its incumbent on the rest of us to reach out. Host most people are looking for signs of this . Some signs, are some like i just mentioned, people who have started sleeping radically, during the daytime rather than that nighttime, unrelated to work schedules, and that kind of thing. People who are withdrawn, and a really big sign is if anybody talks about it, id be better off dead, less of a burden on my family if i were not here. Those are statements that should not be ignored. Host from ohio, sally is next. I have a question, not a comment. By do you think there is still a why do you think there is still a stigma about Mental Illness . That makes people who have some kind of problem like that very afraid to talk about it, and then you do become more youre kind ofse pushed aside, or people dont want to be around you anymore. Guest you hit the nail on the head. That is exactly why i gave the floor speech i did that was shown at the beginning of the segment, because there is a stigma, not only does the person affected not want to talk about but their family members dont want to talk about it because of the stigma we got to change the thinking on this. We need to recognize this is something over which a person does not have any control. Nobody chooses to be depressed with this should be treated like a physical illness trade we dont shame people who have cancer. We should not shame people who have Mental Health issues. I am with you 100 . Host this is carol from connecticut. Im calling because i wondered what can be done for someone who is in the same position i am. For five years i have been in horrible pain and nothing the seemss can do or give me to make my life worthwhile. I just wondered what can be done for people in my position, and i know there are many. Guest i dont know the details, carol, but i will say this, if your pain is at the point where you have thought about suicide, i strongly recommend that you seek hospitalization. I dont mean to alarm you or make it seem worse, but there are some conditions that simply cannot be dealt with, if you take a pill a day, or a couple, and he leave the Doctors Office , if your situation is that bad. It is incumbent on you to seek that yourself. I wish i had done it for my partner. Host this is a tweet from twitter, what do we do when someone obviously needs help but refuses . Guest that is a problem. A lot of people denied the need for help. Toexperience has led me believe more pushing as necessary. It is easy for the person who is afflicted to say im fine, i dont need it, because they also feel shame about it. If you are on the others bit, the person who is around that person, i hate to say it, but it is your job to force them. You cant force everything. You cannot involuntarily commit someone without a court order, but you can dont let up, i guess is what i would say. Is susan wild serving the seventh district of pennsylvania. Coming up, we will hear from ted hallstead, and he will talk about his push for a carbon tax. That is coming up next. Announcer saturday, on the civil war, the 1863 campaign in tennessee. Bragg orders everyone to concentrate on this. After they leave the highland rim, then it is anticlimatic bragg is ready to fight it out in the trenches. Announcer and on lectures in professor. Is emory plan, no 6 million, no leadership from hitlers, no gas chambers, and the last point is this is all made up by jews. Announcer sunday a discussion about shakespeare on u. S. Politics, and on american artifacts, the Norman Rockwell museum traveling exists and it exhibit. Explore the past of the nation on American History tv every weekend on cspan3. Washington journal mugs are available at our online store. Check out the washington journal mugs and see all of our products. Washington journal continues. Halstead, hereed to talk about a proposal about carbon tax. Good morning. Who backs your organization . Guest we were founded by whos who of business as well as opinion leaders from across the spectrum. It is an odd bedfellow coalition looking for bipartisan solution. Host how much of that backing comes from oil and Gas Companies . Guest this shows the founding members of the council, and it says it has leaders from almost all sectors of industry as well as opinion leaders across the spectrum. Oil companies and others are broadf it, but it is a coalition. All of these parties are converging around a consensus bipartisan climate solution. Companyy would a oil consent to this tax . Guest because there are a number of options to solve Climate Change. There are regulatory approaches which democrats and leftwing voices are pushing. What we need is a climate solution that is proenvironment, probusiness, and that is what we have offered. Our plan would cut Carbon Emissions i 50 by 2035. By 50 by 2035. It would get give every American Family carbon dividends. Host so the tax itself, how does it work . Would pay amissions fee starting at 40 a ton. It would be economy wide. It would increase energy costs, but all the money raised goes directly back to american citizens, and a family of four people would get about 2000 a year. That means 70 of americans including the most vulnerable help to solve this Climate Change. We actually come out ahead receiving they receive meaning they receive more in carbon dividends. This aligns the economic incentives of americans with climate progress. To . what is this applied all sectors of industry, all Carbon Emissions. No exceptions. Everything, there will be a price to reduce emissions across the economy. Weve done this to help american workers, and is probusiness. The dip bait is to partisan. There are proposals on the left that are antibusiness. They will never get bipartisan support we need a solution where we can come together and get behind this. Regulation,s became does it say it let us impose this tax, but dont impose these regulations . Guest exactly. It is a meaningful meaningful example,carbons, for this will get you a deal that is bipartisan, that businesses and environmental leaders can get behind. Att you can ask our guest 2027488000 for democrats, independence, 2027488002, and you can text us at 2027488003. He is with the Climate Leadership Council. We have a call for you from jim from texas, the democrats line. Go ahead. He talks about taxing people. Automobiles are the biggest criminal of all, and everybody in the public has got automobiles, and they dont have the electric ones. Will there ever be help for buying an electric car so we can get rid of these carbon producing auto meal automobiles that we have . Createwe went to economic incentives for all americans to reduce the Carbon Emissions. Economists have said the most costeffective solution is to put a price on carbon. That would change activity all across the country. Its not to do it through regulation, but rather to do it through a price and give every dividends. That empowers people to make choices about how they want to reduce emissions. The more you reduce, the more you come out ahead under the plan. This, whenwer adds it comes to this tax, it will only be paid by the poorest consumers. Guest the u. S. Department of treasury found that 70 of American Families would win a commendably economically under this plan. The lower you are on the income scale, the more you get. It is not a tax on the wealthy. Its simply because low income americans have a lower carbon footprint. Michael talking about this, this Program Creates a new arrangement that collects his taxes and sends dollars in a political game, and this quickly becomes entitlements, and the program simply adds new taxes to our existing code. Guest there are three ways to solve the problem could many of the proposals put forth by democrats have very high price tags. What that means is your taxes would go up or the deficits would go up. Our plan is revenue neutral. It would know go to the side of the government. It would shrink the size of the government because it does away with regulations unnecessary once you have a meaningful carbon price. Thats why this is a conservative solution and the original coauthors are a whos who of republicans, for example, james baker and george schultz, and our plan is named after them. Proves it is republican credentials. Our we are hearing from color from virginia. Caller from virginia. Guest it looks like some of what we are doing is causing a loop to occur in the northern parts of the planet. If you look at methane leaks from the tundra and the amount of absorption by the ocean. We are urging a critical point where we may not be able to turn the ship around. You act like we can solve the climate crisis, that was like 15 years ago. We need to sue the oil and Gas Industries are Hiding Research into this that they knew 30 years ago trade maybe we could use some of that money like we used with the Tobacco Companies to fix some of the lives by building better flood zone infrastructure, allowing Solar Panel Use to increase Energy Renewable energy, and also just use it to build electric vehicle for us so we can get the carbon out. Much of disagree with that. We need to solve the climate i amem going forward, and more optimistic. Our plan reduces in missions by 50 by 2035 in a manner that is probusiness and in the way that economists say is most costeffective. In the scientist will tell you the number one objective is reducing emissions. Our plan would do so in a manner that is faster and greater than any other proposal out there. Host how do you conclude that . Has there been studies done on this . Guest lets put up the second chart. Our plan is underpinned by credible modeling. What this shows is that if our plan were implemented by 2021, it would exceed the u. S. Paris contrast, one line shows if all obama era regulations had remained in place, we would only get to about 18 reduction by 2025, below the paris target. This concertedat inspired plan backed by industry would exceed the u. S. Paris commitment which is something no regulatory approach accomplishes. Host would you depend on enforcement of these taxes for this approach . Guest the federal government is good at enforcement taxes of taxes. We prefer to call it a fee instead of a tax. Economists are not worried about that. Fees countries have tried successfully. In british columbia, when they imposed a carbon price, emissions went down. That is the model. In our plan all the money goes back to the American People. That is what is unique. It creates a positive feedback loop for the more we protect the environment, the more americans come out ahead. Plan you launch this yesterday what has been your reception so far . Something big happened yesterday, and that is after two years of meanings, we added a lot more details to the plant yesterday and we specify for the first time the goal of reducing emissions by 50 by 2035. That is backed up by modeling and by what we call this mechanism meaning that it is ensured that we meet those reductions per we also detailed divisions siness provisions which is important to republicans because of the americathat why should lean on Climate Policy if china and india you not do their part. This plan compels other countries to follow suit. We would put in place a border carbon adjustment, meaning that all Energy Intensive imports from other countries charge the fee at the border. And we would credit the carbon fee for exporters of Energy Intensive goods which levels the field. The rules of global trade currently subsist size subsidize dirty manufacture. This would reverse that. It would also put america in the drivers seat of Global Climate privacy policy. Have a caller on the republican line from connecticut. I am originally from florida, but im going to school in connecticut. One of the things i hear a lot is that the left offers is that we need to sacrifice giving up meat, sacrificing our way of light, that it seems like with this plan have a solution that allows that to keep the things that we love in our lives. Is it really the case that we dont have to make sacrifices and can come out financial winners . Guest there are a lot of false tradeoffs in the debate suggesting that we can have either environment a progress or we need to trade that for decrease in our quality of life or our living standards. You see that if you have just a straight up new price on carbon, it doesnt go well with voters. Thats what we saw in france when there was an increase in Energy Prices leading to that yellow vests protests. What is revolution he is that all the money raised would be returned directly to the American People. And americans would be empowered with both resources and choices to decide how they want to reduce their own Carbon Emissions. That makes all the difference. The vast majority of americans would be economic winners from solving Climate Change. Host jack is next from the independent line from connecticut. My name is jack. A little more about the interplay of climate and National Security and what this carbon dividends planned would do to protect security interests. Guest good question. The military leadership talks about how Climate Change is a threat will to player because it creates instability throughout the world. For example, the rising sea levels and droughts which creates pressures for mass migration. That gets worse going forwards. Leaders are saying we need to solve climate chains. Weekend jimy last mattis spoke specifically about the National Security implications of Climate Change, and we were pleased to see that he says that our plan makes sense. Host does the proposal offer shielding from oil or Gas Companies they son Climate Change . Guest the plan does not include that. What it focuses on is a forward looking solution that is proenvironment and probusiness and promiddleclass. Meaning that we can have all of those things at the same time. This is a climate solution for all sites can win. Probusiness. Ly the problem so often is any policy, on the one hand liberals against the industry. That typically doesnt work out well. What we need is a solution for all of these stakeholders can win something and get behind it at the same time. That is what is unique about the coalition we have built. There are Major Oil Companies in our coalition, companies from a sectors. E of tableare also at the same with four leading Environmental Organization and top economists. Earlier this year we issued the largest Public Statement in the , allry of the profession four former fed chairs, 26 nobel , and theyconomists all came out saying that a carbon dividends plan is the best way to go forth because its based on economic principles. Host from marilyn, greg is next. D, greg is next. This is just not enough for me. Will the taxes be placed on corporations emissions or people or both . Assessede tax would be upstream, so on companies costs would pass on to American Consumers because we want to change corporate behavior also individual behavior read all of the money would go back to the american citizens. In terms of emissions reductions, the goal of environmentalists is zero i20 50. Reducing emissions by 50 by 2035 puts us on that path, far exceeding the u. S. Paris commitment. I dont think theres any other plant out there including the Green New Deal that has credible modeling behind it showing how it would achieve emissions reductions. Ours has strong modeling and backup mechanisms supporting it. Byhave a plan that is backed large sectors of industry including Oil Companies that would far exceed the u. S. Paris commitment. Thats a big deal. Host on the website, this highlights this technology, why not that approach versus the tax . Directif you think about camp sure, essential to any longterm solution, you need economic incentives to make that interesting. Our plan interacts perfectly with capture and direct air capture. The price that we would put in place would be credited anytime that emissions are taken out of the atmosphere. Missions,axes carbon would nottted carbon be subject to the fee. Our plan would put in place the most powerful economic incentives to enable those technologies to thrive and further reduce emissions. Host on the republican line from michigan. Republicanm a student at the university of michigan. One of the things that i find most interesting about this proposal is the fact that you have environmental groups and Business Leaders come together to support this. I want to ask you, why do you think these groups are coming together, why is there so much agreement between these two sides which seem to be so opposed to each other in the past . Guest we have an odd bedfellow coalition, but the sensible parties in the climate debate understand we need a way forward that, wishes the three objectives at the same time. It has to be proenvironment, probusiness and promiddleclass. The parties have set down and been meeting in private for the last two years to work out the details of a plan that is bipartisan. Thats why we announced yesterday the details of that plan. I think it is a testament to all the members that they have put in the effort in the trust to come up with a plan that is truly bipartisan. If we think about it, look at nothistory, this plan did pass because of lack of bipartisan support. If you think of the obama era executive orders, they did not have bipartisan support. For a lasting solution, we need one that can appeal to both sides of the political spectrum. We are seeing tectonic shifts on both sides good republicans have changed their tune recently acknowledging that Climate Change is a problem and emphasizing they need a republican solution. Democrats, if you saw the recent president ial debate on the townhall debate, six out of the 12 participants emphasize we need a carbon price. These sites can meet in the middle through a carbon price that is also probusiness. Host this is bob in kentucky, independent line. All i want to say is that after i was listening, the vanity of these people kill me. Youre only on earth for a max of 100 years, and then we are all dust. This earth has been going on for millions of years without our endpoint. God is the one to decide the climate, not the dust people. Thats really about it. Human i believe in ingenuity, and i believe that as a society we can solve the climate problem going forward. It is our responsibility i think to find a consensus way forward. We owe it toalive, future generations to leave the planet in as good shape or even better than we inherited it. Host who have you talked to on capitol hill about this . Guest leaders from both sides. We cannot talk about those because those are private meetings, but its fair to say we met with top senators from both parties. There is Significant Interest in a bipartisan climate solution. We believe that a bipartisan bill based on our plan will be introduced in this congress in both chambers. That is our objective. Because it is reachable both parties recognize we need a way forward. The group founded by the famed republican frank lentz recently did a study and found that this is the one issue where the American Public wants a bipartisan solution. Thatroup also pointed out Climate Change is a major vulnerability and opportunity to republicans especially because the publicans under 40 place high importance on climate solution. Almost they are indistinguishable from republicans in their views. Either party needs a strong solution to appeal to the next generation. One thing that really encouraged us is that that pulling found by a 71 margin Republican Voters under 40 support us. Who are that legislatures leading the charge . Guest do you really think i am going to answer that . Conversations behind closed doors. To be clear, we do not think our plan can pass in this judge slade of cycle. We think it can in 2021. The recent we want to introduce tee it up as the bipartisan alternative going into the 2020 20 election. Earlynk it can pass in 2021. Host from norman on the independent line in massachusetts. According to forbes, that Climate Leadership Council is here to scam people out of paying attention. It was started by Oil Companies. You should ask your guest about that. See has let down listening toare the segment we started off talking about the background, but go ahead for your comment. Caller anybody who wants to charge Oil Companies 40 per 10 of Carbon Dioxide should be charged with attempted genocide. Guest i think we should base Climate Policy on sound economics, and the economic entirely aligned behind the premise that the most costeffective climate solution is to put a price on carbon. Thats why that is the basis of our plan for theres no question that will be the basis of any bipartisan climate solution. Host from massachusetts, the republican line, sheila. Good morning. I hope you wont cut me off. What is the exact amount of co2 that should be allowed, and how long do you suppose it would take to change the entire atmosphere so that we are carbon free, and then what happens to agriculture and life and we totally eliminate and play games with carbon . This is like a pinprick in a paper the size of a bedroom. This is a scam. We all know this is a scam. Host we will have to leave it there. Guest when we are looking at Climate Policy, many sites want to say, rather inflammatory statements, but bottom line, what matters is reduction. We have put at a plan that models show would our exceed u. S. Paris commitment. That is the way that it should be. You asked about climate emissions. The goal is to get emissions by 2050 down by either 80 or 100 , depending on the point of view. We have a plan that by 2035 would reduce emissions by 50 . That dramatically raises the environmental ambitious. Heres a plan backed by an odd bedfellow Bipartisan Coalition to far exceed the u. S. Paris commitment. Host we have about 30 seconds, but where are you now as far as this proposal . Guest we have out lined many of the details we need to introduce it legislatively in both chambers and have this be the person climate solution going into the 2020 election. Host our guest as with the Climate Leadership Council, he serves as chair and ceo. Thank for your time. That is it for our problem today. Another addition comes your way at 7 00. Forget on cspan, if youre onerested on the efforts impeachment, you can now monitor that. We now take you to the house of representatives. 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