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I did think about, i did reflect on where i was at in terms of my family responsibility and i think if my son had been younger , i dont think i would have done it because i did know that i would be traveling back and to washington,y d. C. , london, to deal with regulators, and i dont think i would have necessarily done it. It is not so much for me a gender issue as a, what is the state of my family, and can i really take on the stress, the travel, the hours . I was , thenate in terms of my support i had at home from my husband and the other people who help us in our extended family and chosen family, if you will, to do that. That may be something i think women may pause a little more men in these roles, but increasingly i think that is something we all think about in ,erms of the time in your life whether you can make some of those commitments. Thank you for sharing that background. I think it is inspiring to so many of us. Now we will delve into the substantive issues we have been promising andor threatening to talk about. We did several planning calls on this. The theme that emerged most that we will see if it resonates with the panelists is the theme of the evolving technology, may ahead of public discourse, even the awareness of what is possible with these technologies. We will talk about, it might be ahead of the scope in most cases. You mentioned this, of regulation and laws. As we talk about areas of expertise and the substantive new areas, we will get lessons on how they grapple with these topics. I think i will start in this order. It is easier for me to remember. Kristin, i dont understand how you can even, you started off where lyft was a rideshare company. We had an apt and could get somebody to pick us up. You are thinking about the future of mobility in a broad sense. As i was preparing questions i was like, what crazy questions come across your desk and how do you think about them . Someone will come into your office and say, can we start having rideshare with flying cars . You gave me a story about sweepstakes question, which was off the wall. If you could give us insight into the Fun Questions that come your way. Being in a very public facing and consumer facing brand , the Marketing Team is a big component of the work that my team does. Generates a lot of questions for us. Side,d of on the more fun one of the things i shared with heather was the fact that we get the craziest ideas for promotions. In fact at one point, some folks in the Seattle Office i think, this would have been near you guys, came to us and said we writersweepstakes for riders we want. To send five people skydiving. How do we grapple with the liability issue . It is mobility, not really relevant to our product though. While we pride ourselves on being creative, a team of solutions oriented, this is one of those very easy nos. We couldnt see the benefit from a out layingerspective the crazy potential liability associated with this. On a more serious note, in terms , we arect development really embedded with the product team at several, several people on my team are constantly iterating, this can be anything from new modes on the platform to thinking about issues that autonomous vehicles, bikes and scooter launches, which are very different than historical issues lyft has had, as a primary online platform. Now we are talking about tangible realworld aspect, different regulations. Really, the ground we have to cover on my team on a daily basis, it never slows down, it picks a. It just picks up. We try to work with people to make things work and that means having extremely creative solutions. Do you work outside . Do you ever pick up the phone and call, excuse me for the u word, folks at uber, should we be working on policy issues . A competitively sensitive product launch, we wont talk to our biggest competitor about that but throughout the years the we have, especially in early days of ridesharing, we were looking to launch in different markets, we have often had a friendly relationship with uber, friendlier than people would know. It is very helpful for a new and Disruptive Technology to show regulators. What you are doing isnt all that crazy. In the early days of ridesharing, we would go anywhere. The big job was going in and talking collaboratively with regulators and explaining what wasnt aoing, why it brave new world, why it was a natural extension of what already happened with an overlay of safety. And that was allowed by the technology. Tivet has been very itera over the years. As we talk about transformative technologies, how many of you have used lyft . A large show of hands. How many of you used rideshare generally . It has transformed my life. When i go to a country where it is not available, i am like, what do i do . We are about to see a lot of changes. Scooters. Autonomous vehicles. Looking at the future, lyfts Corporate Mission is to improve peoples lives as the world best transportation. Ahave appreciated that it is broad mission. It was never just about ridesharing, it is about mobility in general. When i have outside counsel asking, why do you want to go into bikes and scooters . This is a different line of business. For me, it felt natural because it was an obvious extension of that Corporate Mission. A car is not always the best way to get from point a to point b. A fully we will have time to talk about social philanthropy and corporate philosophy because one of the missions of lyft is to make the world a greener place. We can do ridesharing and scooters to eliminate the need for large parking garages and have greener places on the planet. Hopefully we will get to that later. I told you i was going to embarrass you. In this book, coming out soon, tools and weapons, a president of microsoft gave me an advance copy, it is called the promise and the peril of the digital age. I went to college and lawsuit law school with brad. This book covers, i was surprised to find this book come out after we envisioned this panel. We were thinking along the lines of these topics. This in cap you like and what we are talking about. We arepsulates what talking about. He wrote, during a typical week at microsoft, it is typical to find our general counsel spending her time working with people on projects that seek to look around corners, get ahead of looming problems and controversies. When we prepared in advance for this, we decided she couldnt speak about every corner she looked around and every looming problem and every controversy, and i think you will talk a little bit about facial recognition. I need to figure out exactly what it is. I think it was a good thing what he wrote. Fickle facial recognition is a great example of a lot of things that are probably thematic across our Biggest Challenges today. You think about facial a tonition and there is of promise. I expect many people have iphones and you can look at the face id, it logs you win. It is convenient and more secure than a password. There is lots of promise with that technology but it has developed very rapidly and we started talking publicly about it a year or two ago and nobody was talking about it. We couldnt figure out why. People were saying, why is this . Conversation for you fast forward to now and it is becoming more of a conversation. But i dont think the social dialogue has caught up with the issues, and regulation certainly hasnt. I think there are unique features about facial recognition as a policy issue that are very informative. One is, it is an emerging technology where it doesnt always get things right. If you think about the challenges of the technology, it is things like bias. Facial recognition is taught on the data that is fed in is how facial recognition learns. One of the early challenges is, if you look at publicly available datasets for faces, a lot of them work white male faces. Facial recognition didnt work identifying minorities and women. ,epending on how it is used what i can do is create bias. Do is createt can bias, which is harmful. Thinking about the implications of how the technology might be used, is it far enough along that we are comfortable with those uses . Takeesnt think thinking too far down to think about uses that we as an industry necessarily might be super comfortable with. Think about mass surveillance issues, even police uses today where the technology isnt quite there yet. Is notg out if there regulation, how do we self regulate . How do we put together principles that make us comfortable that our technology is used in the right way . I saw a summary that you wrote about the key topics and you hear these topics and they are so vast. Fairness, transparency, accountability, nondiscrimination, consent, lawful surveillance. I think microsoft, from what i have read, has done an amazing job of trying to get ahead of these issues. You have worked with other companies in trying to come up and some basic rules structure and talking to governments. I think it is a really great example of where we are better together. We can come and do our best, attempt good principles and or goal would be to create regulation ord proposed regulation, the minimum viable product. The idea that we may not have it perfect first time around but lets figure out what we think the guideposts are and we can Work Together across industry, work with governments and civil society. If we put our Heads Together and think about it, we will probably come to a better resolve. Such good questions. We will get to the next one. My brain is full of even more ideas than it was before. Dorian did a very good job of reminding me how much oracle expanded, how many acquisitions have you done recently . About 150, 160. Oracle is no longer just about being a database stored in the cloud. The question i have for you about the in normandy of the job and the scope of what oracle the enormity of the job and the scope of with oracle is doing, where do you perceive threats coming from . How is that for a small question . Datare storing all the Everyone Wants access to. What is the biggest threat . Let me first say i thought there were a couple important things i wanted to emphasize. Part of our jobs and our success is built on embedding our team in the Development Organization so as these issues come up, whether they are technical, oral or policy issues ethical issues, weve got people that are right there having that discussion with the developers. I think that is critically important. Then, the dialogue with regulators, because i have been doing this for a long time, speaking with regulators, and i dont care what anyone says, they are not always at the forefront of technology. A lot of our job is to educate them on these technologies, and that has been true for a very long time. When ray was the general counsel at oracle, it was true. It is an ongoing effort to do but in a really helpful kind of way. Where are the threats . They are frankly everywhere. Worldslieve that the most important data is in oracle databases and there are a host of applications that are oracle applications and other Companies Applications that are helping to utilize that data. It is true that for Government Entities and banks and health care companies, there are organizations that want that data for one reason or another. The threats that we hear about a lot, the ones that capture our attention, are the external threats, the state actors, the cyber criminals. They exist in a very sophisticated, so part of our job is to be morphing more sophisticated, so we develop more Sophisticated Technology than what they are using. That is a lot of what our effort has been over the last many years. Frankly, since our inception, because our first project was for the cia. We are very focused on protecting that data for our customers and of course, for ourselves. The vast majority of the intrusions, the threats, are internal. They are either somebody simply didnt change a password or having a really simple password or an internal actor that is a bad actor. There have to be not just technologies, but processes that can combat that. Every company has to have a robust Data Governance structure to be a bull to deal with those kinds of threats, as well as using the technology. What we hear from our customers, the need to protect their data. We are very focused on that. Does oracle have in place, where companies can go who are trying to get up to speed and get the Lessons Learned . They come to me. We do talk an awful lot about this. I have been talking a lot about it lately in forums around the world, talking about how you can put together these kinds of structures using what we would do as a model. For years, we have had an oracle Security Oversight Committee chaired by me and one of our ceos and our chief corporate architect. We bring in the heads of all of the i. T. Organizations on a quarterly basis, and we conduct what i call a corporate colonoscopy. It can be very unpleasant. We call people in and call them on the carpet. There is a very clear direction to everybody in the organization about where the priorities are. That is one aspect of it. I think, i wrote the speech kenya athis year, in the school of Monetary Policy at the invitation of the commercial bank of kenya, who were embarking on this huge warehousing project. We had very Sensitive Data and we worked closely with them. We went through a different elements of the Good Governance program. It is great for us to speak to one another. Companies talk to one another about good practices. The technology is really important come of the focus on, how can we build the technology in a way that really prevents the bag actors from getting in bad actors from getting in, preventing internal resources . If there is an intrusion, how do you kill it . How do you make your robots better than the other robots . Whacks sounds complex. Should we have confidence . Confidence. Have we should have a degree of confidence. The bad actors are really sophisticated, and some of them are extraordinarily wellfunded. So we have to direct our research and Development Dollars on that. So many of these intrusions are through simple hygiene problems that Companies Often dont think about, the ones we hear about recently. Side, cane government you expand a little on that . What do you mean . You said we have to approach it from the governance side. Governmentsage with quite a bit on this to explain to them what is being done in the industry. Here is where some of the collaboration that we all have in the industry is helpful. In some places, there is a sense that there is a lack of care, isir is the talk there the talk but not the walk. That is not the reality. We all have to be responsible to our customers and shareholders, and they have expectations. So that collaboration amongst companies and with the government to be able to educate them as to what is possible and what is in process is incredibly important. That is another issue we are justing on, working not with governments in the u. S. But these are global issues. Loud and clear on our calls. This is a perfect segue to you, kathy. Now that you know, i am telling you you will be getting my dna. Should i have confidence in the . Afety and security absolutely. I dont want Insurance Companies to know, that kind of thing. The thing about 23 and me, when the company was founded 12 tors ago, its mission was take the Scientific Developments that had come out of the human , u. S. Project taxpayerfunded, and find out fantastic discoveries about, what was the actual cause of Cystic Fibrosis . Can we identify carriers . Can we make this less likely that somebody will be born with a genetic disease, like genetic counseling and things like that . The information and what we have result,ou get a health , we risk of Breast Cancer have to demonstrate to the fda that we have a 99 positive productive value and a 99 negative Predictive Value but a 95 confidence and we have to attest to that tens of thousands of times. It can be very comfortable with the accuracy with of the information, which is part of how we make things safe. On the privacy side, there is a combination. We do security from the standpoint the same way banking works. Myself, our marketing folks come our security folks will read a press article that described these things and i open the email, we dont email your results, you have to put in your credentials like you have to do with your banking. That is what will marry your personal information to the genetic file. We keep the databases separate to keep them protected. A hackingere is event, the chance somebody could hack both and remarry the databases is what we are aiming at protecting. We have to go further, because the power of Genetic Information is sharing the information. If we find out you have a genetic risk for a disease, a you do want to talk to your physician. We want to give Additional Information about what people should think about. We talked of people about the fact that in the u. S. , we have the Genetic Information nondiscrimination act that applies to our product and medically tested genetics. If you get tested by her doctor, you might find these things out. Employers and health Insurance Companies from using Genetic Information to make a discriminatory employment or Health Insurance decision. But if you put it on facebook, im not sure that you can be confident that somebody wouldnt use your information. We have to tell people those types of things, because they have to take some responsibility in terms of how they share their information. The other thing that people can do with their Genetic Information is share it to build up a large family tree. We dont do that, but they will share their raw data online with others to do that. We give people information about doing that and we basically tell them, reminder, it is like a flashing warning, you are taking your information outside of our secure system. You have to check the security of doing that. Be aware that it is not going to be protected. You are publicly sharing the information. There are consequences to that. There are many Different Things that go into giving people the security that they can make, they can opt to buy the product and use it in the way they want to but also giving them cautions and warnings about some of the other things they have to think about. Anduse this is genetics, fundamentally, we share this with the people you are related to, your children, your brothers and sisters and parents and cousins, all of that, you have to be thoughtful about not making a decision for other people. You might want to know or not whether you have a risk of alzheimers. We give you the support of tools and making that decision. But we dont want you necessarily to go and share that with your Family Members without considering whether they would make a different decision. I think we have a good balance. There is lots of educational content in the result. Most of it is educational , before you see an alzheimers result, for example, you have to have bought the product. You have to register and say, yes, i want help results. ,or the most serious results ,lzheimers risk is one of them parkinsons a risk, for those you have to go through an education module and opt in to see the result. We know that there are different considerations, and we want people to thoughtfully select the information they want, but as part of that we tell them its great that you have made the decision you have made, but leave it up to other people to make that decision for themselves. I want to recall, you talked about the issues of privacy, think about, that includes the right to choose and transparency. What we find complicated about your world, as you said, my brother can make decisions that impact me, or i might find information out about relatives that i didnt know. Not to say my family is unique in that area, so far that hasnt happened, but it opens up all these enormous issues. People thought they anonymously put a child up for adoption or a storm donor, the whole world has changed in ways never donor,ated a sperm the world has changed in ways never anticipated. If you think back 50 years ago in the 1960s, it if you had a Family Member with answer, most likely the physicians told you not to tell the patient. The patient didnt know and they werent told what their actual prognosis was. Cut to today, that would be verybly really rare and uncomfortable for people to do, but that same thing existed around fertility treatments. In the 1960s, people were told donations, and they were told not to tell the child. That has medical consequences because people dont know what their ethnicity might be, or their actual parentage, so when they go to tell a doctor what their Family Health history is, they are giving inaccurate information. Luckily, that has changed, but there is definitely a generational situation where we do have people who will find out that their dad in medical school was a sperm donor. How can i have all these half siblings . This isnt possible. In some of those situations, the parent is still alive and they have a conversation about it. In other situations, the parent is not alive and you can surmise, and we have Customer Care people who help people with this, was your father a medical student . A phd student at the university known to have done fertility treatments in the 1950s or 1960s . It is easy for us to read the tea leaves as to the likely situation. In it can come as a surprise that situation. I can only imagine the stories you hear about on a daily basis. Ethical standards that exist now, there are limits. If someone is using fertility treatments, they are told the child should be told they are donorconceived and there is not such shame in hiding that information. There are ways to prepare people for that. There are limits. Donoront let a sperm create 100 50 siblings. The ethical standards and those standards have developed over time, so there are cases that, decades ago, were more extreme. Technologyoped the and the educational framework, but they also emphasize the concept of personal responsibility, as well. That is something we all think about. Theres a lot that we do but we cant forget about the personal responsibility. We hear a lot from folks often about the issues, the concept of security and privacy and yet, as you mentioned, maybe something gets put on their facebook page. They have to be thinking about this in a deeper sense him a more holistic sense. Segue to personal responsibility. One of the themes ties on social responsibility versus the bottom line of your company. One thing i was thinking about as you were talking was, i havent run this question by use by you soo sorry. Is there a technology you developed internally and you think, we are not ready to release this yet, it is not the time . It is too transformative, we havent gotten our arms around the impact. We could be talking about Artificial Intelligence, robotics, mapping the world, whatever it is. I was curious, do you ever think, we will release that but hold off on it because it is far ahead of its time . The question is, is it ready and have we developed the right framework for . Your customers want transformative technology. The question is a different one. Is it really ready . Someou going to deploy sort of medical robotics tool that is not quite ready . That would be a disaster. You are doing all of the testing and you have a confidence that it is ready and you develop a framework around it. That is what we focus on. I would totally agree. The future of autonomous vehicles. That will be a Massive Decision for the Good Companies working on this technology. Make sure the cybersecurity is robust enough . That will ultimately be the thing that determines the timeline of autonomous driving becoming ubiquitous. I also think it is not just the technology but also the use cases. Is the Technology Far enough along and are there the right controls, regulatory or standards . I would agree. Dorian said it well. We rely on Scientific Development and there is a long trajectory in terms of proving underliesience that what we will return to them. Part of that is how we make sure the customer is going to buy it, knows what they are buying, buying the right product for themselves and uses it safely. We have to have a pretty long trajectory and a pretty high confidence in the science before we release any product. That enables you to use that time to develop the other support systems you might need and to vet that and to think through those things. By the time it is ready scientifically, you have had that opportunity to really understand how is it going to fit in. How are the doctors going to prepare . Are the physicians prepared to help those folks . Can i do anything with that information . That is how we need to look at that. The last halfhour, we will do some rapid fire questions. Agree or disagree. Privacy, have we struck the right balance . No. I will give you a better answer. Are andds on where you what situation you are in. It is very fluid. One thing that we can probably we can conventiokavetch all we want but the fact of the matter is it has helped to create discipline, not within a higher team, but organization that we are responsible for. It is no longer a matter where privacy is the domain of the team team or even the i. T. Everybody has a responsibility and some of that actually is because of the structure that r created. It will remain fluid as more countries develop their own laws. Some are very much modeled on it. Some go beyond. , herere still considering in the United States, it is a bit of a mess. In california, it is quite difficult. It depends, it is difficult to manage this global company. We have programs in place and people in place and we have to recognize it is a fluid situation and we need to stand top of it. What has been most interesting for me for the , is just my role seeing the evolution of how publicly we think about privacy and how that translates into the differences in the work. Lyft, wetarted at had to make sure we were being honest and transparent about what we said that we did. And now you have Regulatory Framework and that is a different place to be in. That has been useful in terms of having the business writ large understanding the importance of privacy. It is scary to imagine that we could be in a position in a few years where we have 50 states patchwork of regulations and laws. I hope there will be standards on. Ted that we can agree i think it has raised the tide for all companies in a positive way. We are all talking with regulators across the globe. We are talking individually and through associations so when the time comes, the time will come when there is a federal framework and it will make sense. It will not be onerous but it will be helpful. That is a good area where we have worked together. I suspect we would all agree that the longterm success of the tech sector or the Science Trust is going to require as it relates to privacy and security. It is existential to all of us. It is a little bit like i was saying with facial recognition, just a couple of years ago, nobody was talking about it. 10 years ago, at least in the u. S. , consumers were not focused on it. One of the things we did was to say we will extend data subject rights to people globally. The interesting thing we saw, as we look at our data now, the people who are exercising their rights more than europeans are the americans. In the u. S. , we have more inquiries about individual data subjects than we do in europe. What that says to me is that it matters to people here in a way we will continue to see. I think the general public consensus has just changed within the last five years. I think it is because we have become so saturated. Any time go online, you have to make a decision. Do i consent to the cookie policy . To go back and do it the oldfashioned way where i give my email address. Think i amnd, i giving away too much. Do you want to mention we have a lot more to cover. . Our approach to privacy my first higher at 23 and me was a privacy attorney. We do research. The product,e from we do a huge amount of research. We public scientific papers on genetics. We need to get consent. We are fortunate in that because we have always known it was a medical product and had that as its mission, we have looked to the office of Human Subject Research protection and we have irb so we have had that as a grounding but we have worked hard in the last several years to have a transparency report to tell people about any Law Enforcement requests for data. To law never given data enforcement but we have had a couple of requests. Give very clear policies that separate the terms of service from consent. Us to getortant to the industry to rally around that and work with Consumer Groups. Now as we deal with the legislature on the state and federal basis, we are trying to educate them because obviously, a lot of what is coming out is coming out of the terms of service which defaults people into things and are aspects of the industry that have never used that, including ours, so it is threading the needle to make that there are consented research situations. What do we say about privacy, and data usage . You have been a little modest. We put together with others in the industry and Consumer Group called the future of , we did bring together several of the other folks in the industry and got people to sign on to industry standards, which we are using. So that people can have confidence and consistent information and they can make an informed choice about do they buy a product and what does that mean . I think the legislation has been, if anything, helpful. Hopefully, we will get to a federal standard as well. With 35 or so states looking at individual legislations and each has a separate flavor to it, that would ultimately be very confusing to consumers. That is the theme on this panel. I think i read Data Security and i hope i have this right, Collaboration Among Companies is a different thing than in the darker ages, it is a new theme in emerging technology, working together and anticipating the need for a shared vision on policy is the way to go. That has been happening for quite some time. I am very old, dorian. I think what is different is that we are all talking about it more. In fact, we have been working together for a really long time on a number of issues. Technology related, but they privacy,ate to policy, commercial issues, anticorruption issues. Either directly or through various industry associations. Just bringing that to the forefront now, how much we are regulators. We want we want the public to know that we compete with microsoft. We also are partners. We have a strong partnership. We have a common interest on a number of areas and we want people to understand you can compete but you can collaborate and collaborate effectively. It is really wonderful to see , you are really influencers. You are not just behind the scenes. You have blogs coming out, you took the lead on this privacy policy. We are going to talk about your you did sign on to this diversity policy and what i love is that these outstanding general councils are not only thinking about representing their companies in emerging technologies but broader social issues. If you would talk about that. Last december, a new York Law Firm got quite a bit of attention for its incoming Partner Class which was overwhelmingly white male. Task for,led them to how could they possibly have a in termsuch diversity of race, ethnicity, gender, et cetera, in terms of the partnership of that firm. Especially given the demographics of people graduating from law school today. It is 50 female. 170 general councils signed onto this letter demanding that that staff theirre and matters according to general principles of diversity and inclusion and as dorian mentioned earlier, one of the things that we are able to do in our role positively influence societal change. To the extent that we believe that diversity is important in providers, wece can vote with our dollars. We are working on cutting Edge Technologies and we need people from a diversity of backgrounds to do that, proactively identifying different issues. It is similar to the facial Recognition Technology point where the data set is all white men, you are missing the broader picture. This is the same thing when you are talking to your outside counsel. We want a diversity of backgrounds, subject matter. What are the challenges you are facing . I was proud to sign on to this letter and very inspired by michelle putting a positive the work she has done, speaking on the topic. This is near and dear to all of us. I am proud of her for being a public leader in this capacity. For me, it was something that has always an important at ly ft. 27 years ago, when i joined oracles litigation team, we included in the retention not that aequirement person of a diverse background had to be on the team but that you consider. Over the years, it has evolved and the teams have been incredibly diverse. Many of my trial teams have women in the lead. All of the Compliance Partners i work with in compliance investigations, they are all women in the lead. It is something we have been doing for a very, very long time. What is interesting is that it began with a male general counsel who recognized how important it is. It underscores the importance of having allies on the issues of diversity. I was on a panel a few months a general counsel who is a white male, he said, you can all tell i am a white male and that is why it is important for me to talk about diversity and inclusion. This is not a womans issue, this is on a black issue. This is everybodys issue. This is an issue everybody should care about. Haveis dialogue, how you expressed it has given me shivers. It is necessary as we develop whatevero have it is, it is fantastic. Like privacy and we are getting shorter on time, so i will ask it, any thoughts on how we define diversity . Are there pockets where we are not doing well . This is a a topic near and dear to my heart. One of my children is from the lgbt community. I am delighted we have all women on this panel but we are not representing ethnic diversity. I signed onto the letter as well. There is a womens general counsel email list but a number of us participate in. There were great discussions about it was not just the fact that i think 12 or 13 , one woman, apparently caucasian, there were good discussions about the fact that we could not tell what somebodys orientation was or was not. We could tell there was a lack of gender balance and a lack of ethnic diversity. We got a lot of letters and calls, some folks from law firms. Companiesr all of our , companies focus quite a bit on diversity. No question we still have a long way to go but we spend a lot of time with female engineers and have improved in that area. My department, out of the 10 lawyers in my legal department, four of us are caucasian. The others are africanamerican, asian, or identify as one race. It took some time to get there. Partner. Team was a we were seeing a diversity of candidates on the front end. That is where the filter is. You will find that you end up with a diverse team. Are tools you can use to try to make sure your pipeline is more has more diverse candidates. We started using this a couple of years ago and we are excited about it. I heard someone speak at a summit. The possibilities are pretty cool in terms of what else you can do with the technology. That has been helpful. You start to recruit at law schools that have very diverse student bodies and we try to focus efforts there. There is a lot we can do. Firms have set up diversity communities committees. We can share information with them, what we are doing, here what they are doing. There is a lot of stuff that gets done that is not really helpful. We want to get to what works. The dialogue is getting more complex around things like intersectionality. You can think about racial and ethnic diversity, gender diversity, people with disabilities. You are missing a lot if you are not thinking about how different aspects of that diversity come together to create more challenging experiences for people. That conversation has been constructive in the last couple of years. I love how this dialogue has continued to evolve as the world becomes more diverse and complex. Hats off to all of you. Minutes, i am0 going to ask your thoughts, maybe we will get one case mentioned and one regulation. Someu think about aspect of the law that you think we should focus on so we are wiser and smarter . This is the american bar association. My goodness. Counsel is toeral be a jack of all trades. Maybe that is a good answer. Where do you get your information . I will give a substantive answer. To that point, i do not know about you but at the beginning of my day, it is filled with catching up on everything that has happened. Articles, and i have to stay on pace with what is going on and also being in the tech industry, reading various tech publications. Law and business oriented to make sure i am being the best internal advisor i can be. Substantively, what is most important for us is something that we have all touched upon quite a bit which is what is the privacy what is the future of privacy legislation . If it is going to be different in 50 states, that will be problematic for a company like lyft. There is no way for us to engineer around 50 different sets of requirements. It is making sure we have people engaging at the federal level. Make sure that what eventually happens is both protective of consumers but also common sense. I will go next. I will pick a statute that is less relevant broadly to the group but more what is emblematic. An area that we have not talked about but i have been really focused on in the last three or four months is digital safety, content modification content moderation. Weeks, afterf australiahurch about platforms to take violent content down. It passed quickly and there was not the typical engagement or. Omment period it was effective within five days of when it passed. I was flying to australia to talk to the government. By the time i landed, it was to be affected. The rapid pace when these kinds of issues happen that legislation can be in place, it is a good example of why we should be engaged in the dialogue. Was the legislation good . It that are aspects of are trying to address the right things. Without that dialogue and understanding how impractical the secondms is the penalties. You just think about the import of a statute like that and it is a good lesson for us. About the kinds of things we are dealing with now. Understanding all of the progeny and Everything Else that is happening globally. It touches everything that we do and our customers are intensely interested in it. Ccpa continues to evolve. There are 16 bills they are complicating contemplating to make better. Absolutely. Just when we think we are getting our arms around one, it is evolving and it takes up a tremendous amount of mind share. All of the lawyers, people and development, it is really front and center. We are very focused on that and we have to not take our eye off the ball on other big issues that corporations deal with. Anticorruption statute, sarbanesoxley, antitrust issues. Takingre still there and our eye off the ball of that be very, very dangerous. Trade, huge. Pr. I would agree on gd it is a well architected framework. It applies to employees as well. To eu citizens. At a lot of, i look the health tech issues, probably, at the moment, because there are legislative processes look tod up, you can the eu. It is something that passed a couple of years ago. Inwill be fully effective 2022. It requires a huge step up for medical testing. While our government is not working quickly on the legislative front, the eu process because it is a multicultural and multicountry process, they tend to have a lot of legislative history. It might take several years for something to pass, but when it does pass, it has penalties in it and it has a framework and a grandfathering period. They will increasingly take the lead and we will see legislation and that will trigger off legislation in the u. S. If these companies can do this for european citizens, why wouldnt we do this for u. S. Citizens . You can look to some of the president s coming out of the eu and think about whether those are things that will end up in our legal code as well. I am part of a small boutique firm. I get a lot of my background is from stanford. There is this new book i mentioned from brad smith, tools and weapons, which talks about the promise and perils of a digital age. From microsofts perspective but i think it is an excellent book and wellbalanced. The american bar association, we cannot forget about the aba. The materials contain a lot of good articles about the topics we talked about. Get active in the aba because it is a tremendous source of information. Happy to talk about it. I will end this with a chance for you guys to finish up on whatever topic. Stanford conference, there was a quote i loved and it said, the consensus was, this is a very challenging time to be a general counsel given the tech backlash and the lack of clarity in privacy and security law. Agree . Are we unanimous on that one . Verythink it is challenging. It has been challenging for a long time. There is something of a tech backlash but tech is not exactly it is universal. We work for companies that have their hands on really interesting things, hard subjects, sensitive subjects. By its nature, our job is going to be very challenging. But very interesting. I would agree. I love a challenge and that is why i am still here. I also feel very lucky that i get to go in and and be stretched to my intellectual capacity every single day. And part of the solution. Jobs you feel that at your you get to you have the time to take a deep breath . It sounds that way from what your special projects have been, thinking about the world at large. These are scary times with machines getting ahead of us, Artificial Intelligence and robotics. I love a challenge. I would be bored if it was not like this. For most people who take on these roles, you know it is going to be part of it. It is a good day if i finish 30 of the things i thought i was going to do. Some part of your calendar is going to blow up. A meeting is going to get scheduled that you did not have on, something that will happen and you have to be flexible to adjust. I think that is great. I think that some of the things like facial recognition, we were talking on the phone and i said my son is at camp and they sent this thing about doing facial recognition so you can find photos of your kid at the camp. There were nothing wrong there was nothing wrong with the terms of service but i thought, i do not know enough about this to snap a photo of my son and figure out what will happen without later. It does move fast, even for people in the industry, and that will keep happening and it is largely beneficial but we are struggling with things like the economic displacement and how to talk about that. Tot is going to put privacy shame once we deal with making sure everybody understands how privacy works, the next issue, what are careers going to look like for the next several generations . What will work look like for the next several generations . Big topics. Any final words . Do we have confidence . Are we going to be helpful in our roles to get ththe law to think thoughtfully about these enormous societal issues being driven by technology . Are we comfortable things will be all right . If we dont have hope and promise for that, what are we doing . We do not take on these roles lately lightly and we feel a great responsibility to drive the mission of the company but to do it in the right way. We are very committed to that role of lawyer as well. We are Business People for sure but we are lawyers and i do think each of us take that responsibility very seriously and hopefully, we will continue to try to drive good policy and have good outcomes. Anyone want to add anything else . It is incumbent upon all of us to be working together to help drive us to the right regulations, the right standards. I have to personally say this was a program i wanted to do for so long and i do not know about everyone here, show of hands, i feel very comforted to know we have such wise leaders of these companies and extremely grateful for how thoughtful they are that they took time out in the summer on a friday to join us. I cannot thank you enough. Thank you to the american bar association. Philip. U to ray and to most of all, i will do a little thank you so much for all you have done for us. [applause] the senate comes back into session on september 9 with two important issues on their agenda, passing federal spending bills and antigun violence legislation. Before senators return to washington, get a behindthescenes look at the senate with cspans History Senate conflict and compromise. It was created in the spirit of compromise and mutual concession. 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