As we take you through the latest on that front. We want to hear from you about your immigration policy priorities. Give us a call. Tell us what those priorities are. Democrats, 2027488000 is the number for you. Republicans, 2027488001. Independents, 2027488002. You can also catch up with us on social media. On twitter, its at twitter. Com cspanwj. On facebook, its facebook. Com cspan. And a very good Tuesday Morning to you. You can start calling in now with your immigration policy priorities as we take you to ed okeefe on the phone joining us. Hes a congressional reporter with the Washington Post. You had an article earlier this week previewing the woe that the immigration debate would be playing in the current round of budget talks. At this point, does it appear hat a daca fix and immigration fixes are going to happen alongside a larger budget deal . Caller guest too soon to say but everyone seems to be heading in that direction. Some who have been working on this issue for several years and some who have been introduced with it today and they seem to be the democrat that might be willing to cut a deal with the president. The Sticking Point is how do you define the legal status socalled dreamers with changes in Border Security and what would that Border Security look like . Would it be an actual concrete wall from sea to shining sea . Or would it be some mix of old and new wall constructions, some fencing, some drone and other sort of Laser Technology to track things along the border . And what is acceptable to democrats who would like to see these changes in the status of Daca Recipients but dont feel that it should be traded for changes in Border Security that they feel as do many republicans is unnecessary. Host who are you going to be watching coming out of that meeting . Guest the two democrats are dick durbin and michael bennett. They were part of the original gang of eight back in 2013 that brokered the bipartisan immigration bill that year that passed and then was ignored by the house. And then i would watch republicans like john cornyn and tom cotton from texas and arkansas that are good gauges of where the g. O. P. s reaction could be. You got some other people around the table that arent normally involved, the moderate democrat from the border district in texas, a democrat whos met with the president at least twice already in other meetings. And steny hoyer and kevin mccarthy, the leaders from the house. What youre not going to see there are the big four congressional leaders for whatever reason. The white house didnt want to invite them and its partly designed to gauge the rank and files of reaction and potential parameters in this conversation. And so, if something comes of todays arrangement and perhaps he brings in the big four later again this week and say heres what i heard, why dont we do this . Lindsey graham said to me last night who will also be there said look, this issue will be pretty clearcut. Its going to be a need for Border Security and establish halfway to citizenship. Maybe we can work on the margins to figure things out. But he said this is the kind of issue that congress can take anywhere from 10 to 15 years to sort out. And at this point, were in about year 12 of the ongoing fight. This will be the third round of this that has been tried since the century began. And graham was saying i think were in a pretty good spot here because while all of this stuff gets out of the senate, the harder sell has been on the house. If you can get the president to where hes on board and he tells the house this is a good deal, pass it, then that might be the key. He said that was something that george w. Bush couldnt do, barack obama couldnt do but he thinks donald trump would do. Host not available are the Interest Groups that have played such a role, had loud voices in this debate. Do they think those ranking file members that you talked about, they can pressure those folks more than some of the big four leaders that you were referring to . Guest well, youre referring to people like the head of the spanish caucus who was asked by democrats to be there but was rejected by the white house and other maybe more strident conservatives. Well see. Michael bennett whos going to this meeting last night said to me yeah, this isnt the greatest arrangement because you dont usually caught deal with 30 people in the room but he said this will force certain people who have not necessarily been engaged in this to start paying attention. And thats not a bad thing, he said because hes been stunned by how few of his colleagues understand that every single day, up to 1,000 Daca Recipients are losing their status because theyre not renewing it and theyre immediately put at risk of deportation and losing their work privileges. He said this isnt a media issue that has to be resolved this month. And by spreading it around, that will help to help for congress to cut a deal. Host one other issue that i want to ask you is being included in this debate in this discussion today, the temporary protected status issue and the fate of the 200,000some salve donors at this point will see their protected status come to n end in the next two years. Guest thats right. And these are temporary protective status situations. You know, put the emphasis on temporary that the Trump Administration now has. Youve got 18 months if youre a salvadorian, get your citizenship or go back to el salvador. However, they made clear if congress feels differently, they can pass legislation to fix this. And that is the same situation with daca. So once again, the president is forcing the issue with congress, which has, for years, neglected to take up the issues and figure out ways to resolve them. And so well see. Its now once again, another immigration issue has been put in congresss lap and we will see whether or not they were able to resolve it. You have until september 19, basically if youre from el salvador to sort out your status or hope that congress somehow establishes a way for you to stay. But you know, after all these years of squabbling, to see the white house push this back to congress maybe isnt a bad thing because its going to force them to take up a difficult situation and try to resolve it. Host well see. Ed okeefe will be there to write about it in the pages of the Washington Post. Thank you. Host with this issue being a big part of this looming, bending debate, this deadline thats happening in 10 days, a Government Shutdown if congress doesnt dom a deal to fund the government passed january 19. Let us know what your immigration policies are. Democrat, 2027488000, republicans, 2027488001, independents, 2027488002. Tim is up first in alabama, line for democrats. Tim, good morning. Caller yes. I would like to comment about the wall that President Trump wants to have built. I did a Little Research on the wall and it started back in the and it was 50s about keeping cattle from crossing mexico into the United States because they said it was bringing in some type of virus or disease. So they made a fence. And that fence since that time had just grown and grown. Wilson at thatnt time, he said that the mexicans that were coming over were good workers and that the United States need good labor. So they allowed the mexicans to come over but they made a fence, originally, to keep out the cattle. Host tim, bring us to 2018. Caller yes. Much later on, president nixon had what he called a policy to keep out drugs. And since that policy, the fence has grown into keeping people out, keeping the mexican people from coming over here and that border wall, each president just kept adding and adding on to it. I think that you should just stop this idea with this wall. Just tear it down. Were the only country on the planet right now with a wall to keep out people. Germany tore down their wall when reagan became president and we should tear down this wall and stop this immigration that is actually a racial policy to keep mexicans out or to keep muslims out or anything else to make america socalled great again. Host tim, got your point. On the wall, a story in todays New York Times. The focus on the wall, questions of whether the money spent and the focus on the wall will take away from other security measures at the border. New york times story by ron nixon noting that under spending plan submitted last week, the wall would cost 18 million in 10 years and erected nearly 900 miles of the southern border but the president ignores the evolving nature of terrorism, immigration and drug trafficking. Host the white house asked officials at the Homeland Security department to reduce or delay request for technology and equipment. You want to read more on that in New York Times. Terry, line for democrats. Go ahead. Caller yes, my comment is it would like to see the lottery system go. Ould also like to see migration go. When my grarneds grand partners came here, they could not not allowed to grandparents brought my grandmother and his wife over. Nd he had to pay for them. I would like to see more benefits cut. Theyre come for the benefits. And im not a racist but im not a bigot. I just think that if you come here, you need to support yourself and if you bring people here, you need to support them. And not let the taxpayers pay for it. Thank you. Host if there was a deal put together that eliminated chain migration, that did away with the lottery system, but also include the pass of citizenship for those dreamers, those people who were brought here as children and have lived in the United States, would you be ok with that deal . Caller i would be fine wit as long as theres an understanding that if you are going to do that, then you have to pay for yourself in the future like every other american citizen. You have to keep working and paying for yourself and paying for your family. If you have a family. Host terry, thanks for the call this morning. A few tweets. Elliott where is me is build the wall. Were going to lose the country if we dont halt third world migration. And steve says stricter laws on business, hiring illegal immigrates but have worker programs for Legal Immigration workers. Eddie is with us from l. A. Line for independents. Eddie, go ahead. Caller yeah, good morning. This is a racist program. The reason why reagan implemented was to stop the black momentum in the 1970s and the 1980s. Host youre talking about the Immigration Program in general, eddie . Caller no, this problem that we having now with this immigration, came in with reagan to stop the momentum of the black population in the 1970s and the 80s. 1980s. And now, when we was in california and had the opportunities, it was the jones that we were joining. And when we was going to the south showing our family, it pissed those white people off. He went to philadelphia and mississippi to let them know he was going to put a hat to the black progress of what was happening to this country. Host bring us to 2018, eddie. Caller to 2018 . Still in pick with laws they want to enforce. Congress and senators dont have a thing to do with this. This should go to the people. It should go to the rebel and republic and let us vote on who they want. When the illegals come in, they dont go to the neighborhoods to live in, they go to work. Host if there was a referendum on immigration policy what, would it be . What would the referendum be on . Building the wall . On chain migration . What would you want to see that referendum on . Caller put everybody they hired in jail. Period. Youre breaking the law. How are you going to enforce the law with me and youre breaking the laws . How are you going to put me in jail by trying to feed myself and yaw bring in millions and millions of illegal workers who youre subsidizing. Theyre illiterate. Host charles in indiana, line for republicans. Go ahead. Caller yes. We have too many illegals coming in now. So thats the reason we need the wall. And my parents came from germany but back thens the u. S. Is not overpopulated and i just have one my comment about the taxes. Why cant we have a flat tax which is fair to everyone . Host time is running out on the spend egg bill on this looming january 19. In the past five years, congress has passed 15 shortterm spending bills and thats why were at the january 19 deadline from the latest shortterm spending bill that was passed at the end of december and each one sending a fund emergency, one after the other, talking about the history of that. Were going to talking with six different members of the house and Senate Budget committees in our 8 00 and 9 00 hours this morning on the washington journal to talk about this latest budget deadline their prioritys and their thoughts on the budgeting process that we re that congress is in. And what to do with the wall funding and the immigration system in this country playing a big role in this spending discussion and a meeting happening today at the white house to talk about immigration. So we want to talk about your immigration policy priorities. Democrats, 2027488000, republicans, 2027488001, ndependents, 2027488002. Robert in baltimore, line for democrats. Good morning. Caller you know, they shouldnt even build that wall because the people are already here. Theyve been here for years. They should just own a patriotism if they build a wall, build it. Patriot, the people who are here and let nobody else in. Because see, if they build the wall and try to get everybody out, where is that going to leave the agriculture people and the farmers and whatnot . I mean, who is going to pick fruit and vegetables for what they pay . My mother used to pick grapes and that was the only job they had for black folks and mexicans and they didnt say anything back then. And its just a big waste of time and money. If anything, they should just a north American Union where they just merge with canada and all the countries on this continent and maybe the economy will work itself out. But building the wall, that aint going to do nothing. They arent doing with the wall they already got. Ost raw supporter of nafta . Know, lets say, you coco crisp, people in china like coco crisp, cocacola, right . And let them produce cocacola and then the people who like chinese product, the chinese products can be manufactured here for people who like chinese roducts. If there were something that americans like that was a chinese brand or, you know, a brand of any country, then they could be manufactured here. But people who want to consume it and, you know, people come in this country that are living here. Host got your point, robert. Yaya is waiting in chicago, republican. Yaya, what are your immigration immigration y policy priorities . Caller well, theres no need for any one congress to talk about funding for a wall. I mean, trump clearly said mexico will pay for it. So i dont understand why congress will allow any American Funding into it. As far as daca, i mean, it was an executive order. It was a program. If trump wants to let it expire, he has the right. If the republicans who want to let it expire, they have the right to let that happen. But, you know, republicans are, you know, theyve got arizona and nevada coming up. Senate seats coming up in the states and in all honesty, i highly doubt mitch would let daca expire and put those states in risk. Host thats yaya in chicago this morning. This headline from todays Washington Times focusing on the president s speech last night to farmers. The headline trump tells farmers democrats want to raise their taxes. Highlights the impacts for historic cuts. It was the president s visit to the Farm Bureau Convention. The first sitting president to visit the Farm Bureau Convention since 1992. D weve been talking about immigration policy priorities and the president taking time to talk about that speech. Heres what he had say yesterday. President trump we are confronting the scorch of drug addiction and overdoses that Police Station plagues far too many of our Rural Communities and plagues too Many American lives all over our country. We are fighting the Opioid Epidemic and we are proudly supporting the men and women of Law Enforcement, including our wonderful i. C. E. Officers and border agencies. These are incredible people who endorsed me during the campaign and they are incredible. Theyre doing a great job at the border, by the way. [applause] President Trump we are going to end chain migration. We are going to end the lottery system. And we are going to build the wall. [applause] President Trump every american child deserves to grow up in a Safe Community and to live a life full of dignity, purpose and hope. That is the future we all seek. And we will fiercely defend for all americans. Host that was President Trump yesterday talking about his immigration policy priorities. What are yours . Give us a call this morning. Let us know. Were talking about it in the first hour of the washington journal. Democrats, 2027488000. Republicans, 2027488001, independents, 2027488002. Well also look for your comments on social media as well , including one from m. Stone this morning on twitter. Said mark stones priorities are to end chain migration and the lottery if a deal is made on aca. Tony from connecticut. Line for independents. Go ahead. Caller i thought they had a deal already with mr. Trump last time they sat down and they had an extension on the budget and it didnt work out. So i say dont make a deal with him and dont give him no funding for the wall. Because he said mexico was going to pay for the wall some let mexico pay for the wall. And if daca is the problem, well, he create the problem with daca four months ago when he said daca had to go if they dont come up with a deal in march. Well, he made a mess. Let him fix the mess. He is the great negotiator. Now negotiate. Host is it worth a shutdown . Caller yes t worth a shutdown because he created this mess. Now deal with it host do you think he will take the blame if a shutdown happens . If democrats trophies provide the vote because they want this immigration deal, whatever that may be . You still think President Trump will take the blame . Caller if youve been watching and reading the papers, it is false. What did he say in september . It will be if they cant make a deal with daca, its their fault. He said mexico is going to pay for the wall. Well, mexico said they are not going to pay for the wall. Why should american taxpayer have to fit that bill . Hes the one lying. So hes the one to have to explain himself thats the problem. We dont hold his hand accountable. Like when his son was talking about wikileaks. We dont hold his hand accountable. Hold him accountable. Host tony, there are some democrats who said that they will not vote for any sort of spending deal if there isnt an action on the dream act or some sort of immigration that deals with the daca program. Were going to talking with one of those members of congress, debbie wears man schultz, a democrat from florida later in the program. Trumps border wall becomes flash point in shutdown fight. Jerry, line for independent, go ahead. Caller yes. My concern about immigration is the concept of the anchor babies that is seems to be settle a law. If a woman goes to this country and has child, that child is given citizenship. The whole thing is so absurd, it hould not be accepted. People rely on the 14th amendment for the anchor baby. And its absurd. The senator who wrote the 14th amendment in 1868 explicitly stated that this does not apply to the situation where a woman comes here and has a child where that child is conferred citizenship. People shouldnt really on the 14th amendment and Congress Must pas a statute to overallow the anchor baby concept. Because were being flooded in this country. People are born here. The country is being overturned. The country is not the country that weve grown up with. Host jerry, how would you change the birth right citizenship process . What change should members propose and support here . Caller well it should be congress should enact legislation to overflow anything that has to do with the 14th amendment as the basis for granting citizenship to anchor babies and their families, of course. So it has to be done by statute, i believe thats the way to do it. I cant rely on supreme court. They would never enforce such a thing. But the congress has to act on this concept. Host and we rarely miss an opportunity to read from the constitution. Heres the 14th amendment. Section one. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States or the state wherein they should eside host ted nissan that anna, california, line for republicans. Ted, go ahead. Caller yes. I think we need to have the wall immediately. We need to stop chain migration and the lottery. This is bankrupting our country and the democrat, its just a loy for them to get votes. I should get my Social Security when i retire. I dont care about the illegals getting it. Host when you say build the wall immediately, what does that mean in your mind . Is that all 2,200 miles of the wall . Is it caller heck, yeah. This is america. Gosh, we built the panama canal. We put the man on the moon. Building a wall is not rocket science. You have a wall in your backyard. Its called a fence to keep, you know, prowlers out, burglars out. You have a door on the front of your house with a lock to keep people uninvited out. Its not that big a deal. Its common sense. Host all right. To stephen, green bay, wisconsin, line for democrats. Stephen, good morning. Stephen, you with us . Caller hello . Host go ahead. Caller yes. I was thinking that the daca people really are not here by their will. Theyre kind of like in transit status and instead of taking this all to a third degree in the congress and the president , maybe the president and the congress could just sit down and provide some way for them to earn their status here and then advance the citizenship. I think something good would be some national service. I was in the military and sometimes, its worse than it seems. T they could provide many of them must be computer programmers, i would say or operators. But whatever status they are or whatever play of station in life they have, they could probably find some job like the red cross, the national guard, even providing assistance to them. Maybe some city duties during the weekend when the people are at home and they want to be with their families and they could do this, lets say for 18 months for so many weekends a month for 18 months. And then allow them to apply for citizenship. Instead of going through all this congressional approval and all these votes and everything. Host thats stephen in wisconsin. Its just after 7 30 on the east coast. Went to keep taking your calls on the immigration policy priorities. And also update you on some of the news out of capitol hill and here in washington. This story news yesterday that congressman ed royce, a senior House Republican announced yesterday that he will retire from congress at the end of this year, marking the latest Committee Chairman to declare his time on capitol hill is coming to an end. The Washington Times with this story on it. Noting that he served five years as chief of the house, foreign air force Foreign Affairs committee. Host most chairman are only allowed to serve six years in the top spot of a committee. And this report out of washington today, 2017, the costliest in the u. S. For disasters. The Washington Post noting that hurricanes hari, i remembery and maria combined with devastating western wildfires and other catastrophes made 2017 the most expensive year on record for distancers in the United States. Host if you want to read that report from noaa, and plenty of stories from todays paper. And speaking of today, i want to keep you updated on a few of the events were covering here in washington on cspan, including the confirmation hearing for alex aczar. He will be before the Senate Finance committee today. He has been nominated for health Nd Human Services secretary. One other hearing, the border and Maritime Security subcommittee of the house and Homeland Security committee is having a hearing. And among those testifying is Brandon Jimmy butler, president of the National Border of patrol council. Brandon judd, president of the National Border of patrol council. And with that in mind, we return to this discussion on your immigration policy priorities. Were talking about it until 8 00 this morning on the washington journal. Let us know what you think congress should focus on. What you think the president should focus on. Democrats, 2027488000. Republicans, 2027488001. Independents, 2027488002. Greg is in sioux falls, south dakota, line for republicans. Greg, whats on your mind . Whats your priorities . Caller yeah, how are you doing . Host doing well. Caller one thing im curious about and one thing that we ought to really try is during the eisenhower administration, there was zero immigration, nada, nothing and the country prospered. Maybe we ought to do that again. For one decade. No immigration at all. I see them all over. They come here and they have a retirement plan. They know around the neighborhood. They have no purpose, really or anything. But theyre collecting everything. And until every homeless veteran has a roof over his head, i think that immigration should be completely stopped. That money can be stopped for veterans. Getting them medical care and treatments that they need. And also, the host if you did that, what about the people that are in the pipeline now who are trying to become citizens . Those who have green cards . What should happen to those folks . Should they wait another 10 years . Caller you let this go for eight, 9 years. Jobs that americans wont do. Well, if nobodys going to those jobs, then americans might be forced to have jobs and then the work staff will come back. Host thats greg in south dakota. Regina is in conley, new york. Line for democrats. Region that, good morning. Caller good morning. Host go ahead with your comment. Caller i like them to naturalize the daca, as long as they havent broken any law. Donald trumps mother is one of the immigrants in the country. The penniless socalled educationer who really intended to come to america to work as a domestic without a penny in her pocket. So its kind of hypocritical when you look at the whole story. And i really dont know why the whole story is not out. I would like to see daca passed democrat, giving up the ground on the wall. The walls a ridiculous prospect. If texas wants a wall, let them pay for it. I dont see the problem. Host thats regina in new york. A good place to go for numbers and facts and figures on migration as the is the migration policy institute. We featured a few of their experts in this country and let you talk to them. One of the callers, two calls ago was talking about immigration, historic immigration numbers, specifically referring of the eisenhower administration. You can see during the eisenhower administration, immigration numbers close to zero, not exactly zero. This chart showing immigration numbers, the annual number of legal annual permanents from the United States from 1820 through 2016. The peak in the early 1990s over 1. 8 million per year at that point. Bill is in burbank, illinois, line for independents. Bill, go ahead. Caller good morning. How are you . Im doing well. Caller ok. My opinion is that we are a sovereign nation. We have the right to defend our borders. One of the most important things we can do is legalize drugs. This will take away the cartels power in mexico and stop the mexicans coming into our country. We are still 72 im sorry, this might be politically incorrect, but we are still 72 white, christian european people. We should go to a pre65 immigration policy and use that as a basis for immigration policy. Its really that simple. Thats all i have to say. Host bill, before you go, you say we are an either know, explain what that means. Ethno state, explain what that means. Caller they have tribal affiliations, they have neighborhoods. They have regions. Nd then they have nations. Thats how that works. Host anna from maryland, line for republicans. Go ahead. Caller yes, sir. I happen to agree with the gentleman who was just on and the gentleman prior, mr. Greg who said shut down immigration totally for at least 10 years. Find out whos here. If theyre not supposed to be here, get them out. If they are supposed to be here, then do what we have to do to make it right for them to be here. I also agree with the wall. I agree with no more oh, no more chain migration. No more, you know, someone coming over the border and having a baby and all of a sudden, theyre a citizen. So everybody in the family gets to stay just because theres a newborn now. And the lottery system. Definitely get rid of the lottery system. I know this sounds very strict, but we need to find out whos here and who, you know, what theyre doing here. And if theyre not here to help our country and do what needs to be done, then, im sorry, they have to go. They have to go. We cant we cannot support the world. Host the debate about dreamers, people who were brought to this country as Young Children and has lived in this country for a long time, what should happen to them under the system that you just described . Caller their parents brought them here illegally. Their parents, first of all, need to be deported and then on a casebycase basis, we need to work with the dreamers and if they have committed any crime whatsoever, they need to go. Host and if not, they could stay and become citizens . Caller it would be a very, very long task, a very long pass. Host and what would need to happen on that path . What would they need to demonstrate or do . Caller no, they would have to have jobs the entire time. They would have to do whatever the rest of us have to do. We have to work. We have to support our families. We have to take care we have to abide by the laws. We have to pay taxes. There are so many things as american citizens has to do. I mean, its fine. Everyone says oh, youre so mean. You dont want people here. No, thats not true. I want people here who come here legally. Legally. Not just jump across the border and here i am. Now everybody take care of me. It doesnt it shouldnt work that way. It doesnt work that way if we go to their country. Host what about the people who come legally through the lottery system and the people who come legally through the current system, the family centered, people call chain migration system . Caller thats what i said. I want the chain migration stopped. I want the lottery system stopped. I want the 14th amendment where if someone comes across the border or slides in from china and has a child. All of a sudden, theyre a citizen. No. That should not be. Their parents are from another country. They are from that country. Host all right. Thats anna from maryland. Cindy is in florida, line for democrats. Cindy, your priorities. Caller not only do i agree with building the wall, i agree with electrifying it. Theres no reason that millions of people should go to war for a couple of hundred idiots. It is a simple thing to do. And i agree with zero immigration. Zero. Nada, not for any reason. It does not matter. And, no, we dont need to know why theyre here and ill tell you why. And i dont appreciate you guys not looking at the real founding documents, which specifically our posterity. Nd it doesnt say those who are born here are citizens. It says who it applies to. This is why Everybody Knows its wrong but you cant put your finger on it. Because youre stepping on the founding documents. So good place to start is this. Get this through your head. This is not your country. Its not mine either. If it was, your name would be on the declaration, which clearly states invasion by immigration, invasion of any kind automatically dissolves congress. So congress does not have the legal right to exist. But they have never had the legal right to grant citizenship. Asked and answered. They have the right to regulate immigration. So can agive you a green card . Yes, they can. Can they give you a visa . Yes, they can. But it doesnt matter why theyre here. Its a matter of a ratio. And by the way, say that they have to work . No. The jobs in this country needs to belong to the people of this country. Host so you dont recognize you dont think we should recognize the 14th amendment . Caller i think you ought to recognize the founding documents correctly which specifically states for us and our posterity. Thats what applies to those are the only people who can be citizens. Congress should not act like drug dealers going here, let me sell you a citizenship. Get you high on it so we can tax you later. Or in the case of daca, which those children, their parents are criminals. And not only should they be deported, they should be deported in chains. Host cindy, are there other amendments to the constitution that you think should not be recognized . Caller not only child abuse, its the worst form of Identity Theft in the history of the world. Host ok. Thats cindy in florida. To stanley in utica, michigan, line for independents. Stanley, go ahead. Caller yes. Thank you for taking my call. Well, you know, i get a little bit different twist of this situation because i live so close to canada and some famous politician said they could see russia from their window. I can see canada from mine. I have a friend thats a policeman from windsor and when we discussed the wall, he said that they should build one between canada and the United States. He says that because 82 of the murderers that were perpetuated in windsor were perpetrated by people from the u. S. Any time a canadian crook needs a gun, all they have to do is dom the border of the United States and buy one because you cant buy them over there. So thats what every action we take, it creates a reaction in the world. And im an old farm boy. I know what comes back in the back of the bull. The whole situation is in mexico, when were talking about mexico. When i was on a farm, we worked with these kind of workers from mexico all the time. We had to because were in a sugar beet industry. But the problem were having now is that when we build this wall, the farmers are a little bit antsies because of the fact that mexicos going to find a different place to buy their corn. So every action has a reaction. Build a wall. Then we then mexico will find a different place to buy their products that they buy from us now. And thats all i have to say. Thank you very much for taking my call. Host peggy is in hardyville, south carolina, line for republicans. Peggy, go ahead. Caller hi. I wanted to ask about the parents. I havent heard anything. Just the last couple of callers were asking about the parents also. Where are the parents of these dreamers . And they are illegal. So shouldnt the parents be deported and they can take their dreamer with them. Wouldnt that kind of settle everything . Host what if theres somebody here who no longer has a parent . Who came in as a dreamer, was brought in by their parents . What should happen to them . Caller they should they are illegal. And they should they should be deported also. Host ok. To patty in reedsville, wisconsin, line for democrats. Patty, your immigration priorities. Caller yes, good morning. Thank you for taking my wall. I am against the wall. I would appreciate if everyone would just take a deep breath and look at the situation. This is very personal to me. I am of english, irish, cherokee and choctaw descent. Theres an expression what goes around comes around. And i find it very interesting when the europeans left europe and came to america for a better life. How the engine were forced, forced off of their land and moved to various places, reservations and we know that history. And yet we are doing exactly the same. Others that are coming here for a better life and now, we are being cruel and unkind. Please, please take a deep breath and be welcoming. Thank you. Host thats patty in wisconsin. About 10 minutes left in this segment of the washington journal. You can keep calling in. Want to hear your immigration policy priorities. Want to keep you updated on news around the country and around the world. Of course, this story in the wall street journal today. South and north korea started their First Official facetoface talks in two years today with hopes that discussions could ease tensions on the peninsula stemming from pyongyangs Nuclear Weapons program. The video you see there of representatives from north korea entering the south. Talks come as a Trump Administration leads a global push to isolate the north korean regime which has been hit with sanctions. The wall street journal noting the discussions at the truth village on the interkorean border are centered on possible participation in the Winter Olympics which began in the south korean ski resort of pyongyang on february 9. The images we were showing you of the north korean delegation crossing the border. Also back here in washington, we noted this story yesterday, getting a lot of attention on the front pages of the papers today. Nbc news first reporting it yesterday, special Counsel Robert Mueller told President Trumps legal team his office is likely to seek an interview with the president about how to avoid a sitdown encounter or sit limits to such sessions host you can read that story in the wall street journal today. Washington post today. Back to your calls. Soka is a democrat in virginia. Good morning. Caller good morning, sir. Im a legal immigrant and now a United States naturalized citizen. A couple of things that i want to mention is everybody who talks about legal imilLegal Immigration, ilLegal Immigration. Remember one fact that everybody in this country except the indians are not americans. Does not have the same right as those like the native indians. So be careful when you Start Talking about immigration from e you are somebody this Country First and foremost. You may be born here but youre not illegal. Immigrants generally, we have great value to Business Community because they work long hours, they are flexible and they can be of use too. Now that point im making is that there should be a clear distinction between Legal Immigration and ilLegal Immigration. People tend to talk about immigration as one factor. But theres a big difference between Legal Immigration and ilLegal Immigration. And i think any country should have ilLegal Immigration system, period. Every country in the world has ilLegal Immigration and you get imfrance who are illegally here. The law of the land take care of them. I dont see why u. S. Should be different. However, i must point out that this is a nation of immigrants and we have always been a kinder nation to those who come from outside and we should never forget the roots that everybody except the nativeamericans who were here before came from somewhere else. Do not forget that. And that is my comment. Host before you go, when you talk about the baskets and how we should see people in these different baskets of tease different groups, you put the dreamers, the people who were brought here as children and lived in this country for years, are they in a separate group . Should we see them separately . Or do they fall into the illegal version . Caller so heres the thing, sir. I confess that every parent who come to this country with their little children knew what they were doing. They knew the moment they entered this country they would be entitled to some sort of benefit for a better life. So the parents coming has a serious crime of bringing them and breaking the law of the land. However, the kids are now here and they have no choice in the matter. They didnt walk in. They were kids. So as a compassionate nation, which america is. I have traveled many countries in the world. I always thought america was a great compassionate nation. Probably the most compassionate nation. And i think the kids should be treated differently. They have no choice in the matter. And i really think that the two parties should get together and then find a solution. But i also have to say when mr. Trump is acting for 20 million fwol build the wall, do not forget during his campaign he said he would get mexico to pay for the wall. Now hes completely forgetting that point and thats my comment. Host the submission for funding for the wall, 18 billion was the number that came out last week. We got a few minutes left to get on your ents immigration policy priorities. Michael where is me give me your tired your poored, your huddled masses yearning to breathe here. Those are my priorities and athleen says host a few comments on our facebook page. You can join our conversation there or on twitter. On twitter, its twitter. Com cspanwj to follow along. Dave is in new albany, ohio, line for republicans. Dave, what are your priorities . Caller good morning. In regards to the comments, i ant to bring out im all for ilLegal Immigration. In the past, it was the smart kind of immigration. When most of our ancestors came here, it was legal and there was a giant labor shortage in america. For example, the ree candle was was from erie canal taken from shovels and i have lost jobs due to offshoring. 50s. My mid they dont realize how tenuous a job can be and how quick lay job can disappear. And to compound that, you know, in addition to offshoring, look out, five, 10, 15, 20 years, half the jobs may be lost due artificial intelligence. Think about selfdriving cars, selfdriving trucks. So i think we need to absolutely enforce laws against ilLegal Immigration. And i will say, ive been a illegal nd not all immigration are model citizens. There are some that are great people and there were some that i would spend my own money to send them back from where they came from. Host when you talk about offshoring, are you saying theres a connection there to ilLegal Immigration . Thats why offshoring is happening . Or just limiting jobs . Caller these are things that face working people. Its not related but its another thing that threatens working people. I think the offshoring thing has slowed down a little bit. Although you never know. So i just think people need to think common sensical. The best program all say this. The best social program is a job. And also people say that americans wont do jobs in. The summer time, i would do jobs where we assemble grills at home depot or Something Like that and there are people with all ethnic backgrounds doing that. I cant see a lot of scrappy americans doing that kind of work. White, blacks, asians. But there are illegal people. So, i think we need to like and i think part of this problem is over the last 40, 50 years, ou know, manual labor has been deglamourized. I think all work is noble. Maybe im crazy but i say americans, if the money was right, if theyre willing to spend more like fruits and vegetables and food, i think you could get americans, native born americans into the field to do that stuff. Host i got your point, dave. Herbie, line for democrats. Go ahead. Caller good morning. Yes. Im a black male veteran and we as black people have been brought here illegally. Trump said if if america owes anyone, he owes black people because we have contributed more than anyone else in this country. As far as the wall, i think the way use all the problem with the wall, give all these Illegal Immigrants 6 months to get across the line. If you have to catch them, put them out here building the wall. But them on the chain gang. They will run back over there on the other side of the wall and you will not ever have to build a wall. As far as dreamers, we have a lot of black gentleman in a dream in jail right now dreaming of their freedom. Our children are dying to get out here and be free people. Weve got people that will pay federalmonth to house prisoners. Lets take a look at whats going on with black people while you are trying to look out for someone from another country. To be here and we need addressed just as well as Illegal Immigrants or anyone else in our problems are the ghettos, drug infested neighborhood. That is what we need to be working on and i am with donald trump because he said if we owe anyone, we owe the black people of america. And getof the ghetto rid of the drug problem. Get rid of the older population of the prison. Lets talk about whats going on with these Police Killing our black people and nobody is going to jail while we want to let someone break the law and going into the country. Next that is herbie, the last caller for this section of the washington journal. We will be talking to half a dozen members about their Spending Priorities ahead of the looming deadline january 19. We want to hear about your Budget Priorities. We will have lines for democrats, republicans, and independence as usable. You can start calling now usual. You can start calling now and we will be right back. Sunday night on Peter Edelman looks at the way the courts penalize the poor through excessive fines and fees. He is interviewed by georgia congressman hank johnson. Was poverty and issue in or thef the war on drugs victims of the war on drugs . How did poverty play into that . Sure. No man around, what happens to families. What happens to the men who have been locked up and all the collateral consequences. They cannot get jobs, they are not allowed to live in public housing. Countryaws across the consequences of one kind or another destroyed somebodys life. If they were not poor when they went into prison, they are definitely povertystricken for the rest of their lives. Its totally connected to poverty. Wordser watch after sunday night on 9 00 p. M. Eastern on cspan 2. Washington journal continues. Host for the remainder of the washington journal today, we will be talking with senators and congressmen on the house and Senate Budget committees about Budget Priorities as we hear from viewers about your budget by ortiz. We begin with the senator from sheldonland, whitehouse. As we are asking about these priorities, what are your try ortiz and how are they shaping your role here and your thoughts on this looming budget deadline coming in about 10 days . Sen. Whitehouse i think the overarching thing we are looking for is some the glee degree of parity between nondefense and defense spending increases. That enables the appropriators to go back and fix the individual accounts at those known levels. Very keen to see the promised second chunk of opioid spending come through. We have been promised that. Around washington, promises sometimes arent quite as strong as they are elsewhere in the world. The big issue i think we want in a bipartisan fashion to resolve that could fall apart. We need to the Childrens Health Insurance Program, fund the Community Health centers, reauthorize funding the national Health Insurance we need to get the denser Disaster Relief and solve the Daca Dreamers issue. A lot at stake in these negotiations. I think there are republicans who want all of that to happen. Its a question of trying to avoid host can you do all of that in one deal or to you think specific issues will have to be broken out separately daca being one of them there is discussion that it might come little bit later passed this spending deal. Sen. Whitehouse i think its important the agreement be. Eached be reached if you leave something out of the stray, that enables republicans never to bring it up again. Ansaw that with basically accounting error that republicans made on Renewable Energy tax extenders and they admitted they had made a mistake in the language. They promised they would fix it and here it is well over a year later and the havent even bothered to try. Our experience, if you leave orphans out, is that they get ignored. It, but youage would have to have an overall agreement for the whole staging of all of these issues. Host how do you do that . What is the mechanism for doing that . Agreement between guest agreement between the leaders in the senate and the speaker and the leader in the house and a strong, clear signal from the president that he will accept what Congress Works out. Host i know one of the issues you speak often about on the senate floor is this issue of Climate Change. How do you ensure funding for the epa and efforts to fight Climate Change amid all the other issues coming up in this debate, what are you doing and what are you looking for from a spending agreement on that front . Guest if we achieve rough parity between defense and nondefense spending, then the appropriators get together and they push that money down into the various accounts. What we have seen is strong bipartisan support for the epa budget, particularly in the senate and some republicans may complain, but they dont have the votes to undo it. If we get the parity number, a lot of that falls into place. Host one of tweet from the president on this issue i know you reacted to was that the end of vast year last year, i ted to get the thoughts your thoughts again. In the east its the coldest ever new years eve, perhaps we could use some of that Global Warming that our country, but not other countries, was going to pay trillions of dollars to protect against. Bundle up. Have you brought that up with any of your colleagues sen. Whitehouse guest i think he is with any of your colleagues . Guest i think he is obviously having fun with that. Thatact of the matter is essentially every single one of our 50 state universities, all of our national labs, our military, every american major Scientific Society agrees this is happening and is real. For people like me who represent coastal states, what this pretends for coastal portends for coastal states is deadly serious. For the president to mock this issue is consistent with the general mockery of all things scientific by the Trump Administration and consistent with their more or less ritualized obedience to the fossil fuel industry. I think it makes us look pretty stupid in the eyes of the world and the eyes of people who understand this issue. Host what happens on this issue and the rest of the 115 congress as the second session gets underway . What are you hoping to happen in the next couple months . Guest we will have to see what the republicans tell us they are interested in is trying to solve this problem not through regulation, but through the market and through fixing the pricing of the fossil fuel is paying paying its true cost of all the harm its causing. We had a hearing in the Public Works Committee which republicans brought in witnesses who supported a gas tax to pay for infrastructure and that would have a beneficial environmental effect and virtually every republican who has fought the problem of Climate Change to its solution comes to a place on carbon in the marketplace. Of, ok republicans, if thats the way you want to go, lets Start Talking. That seems to be the republican way, to fix the price on carbon. Host we would be happy to talk about it more in another longer interview, but we appreciate your time. Guest good to be with you. Host have a good day. We will continue to talk to members of the house and Senate Budget committee throughout the last two hours of the washington journal today. As we do that, we want to hear from you, viewers about Budget Priorities. Phone lines, democrats, 2027488000. Republicans, 2027488001. Independents, 2027488002. Having this conversation as the headline in usa today notes time is running out for a spending bill. The Government Shutdown looms again on january 19. The reason that shutdown is looming is because the latest continuing resolution from the end of december pushed funding for the government deadline through january 19. If there is not a bill to continue the funding of the government passed that day, the lights would go off, the government would be shut down. We want to hear from you as these negotiations are happening ahead of that deadline about your Budget Priority. Jim is up first, leesburg, virginia, independent. Caller thank you for cspan. To all my democrat comrades that want the government to take care of them from cradle to grave, my idea would be andnt fully funding of everify and these daca kids, we can take care of them for 20 years until they get citizenship. Is American Government definitely dropping the ball on this immigration thing. I dont want my government to be Mother Teresa to noncitizens of this country. Thank you for your time. Host those are jims priorities. Jim mentions salvatori ands dorians in this country. President trump will end temporary protections those who currently have temporary protected status must retune to their return to their homeland or become undocumented immigrants. The administration has terminated temporary protected status for four sentries prate el salvador, haiti, nicaragua, and sudan. 10 nations were in the program when President Trump took office a year ago. Salvadorans were first granted. Ps in 2001 john is in cincinnati, ohio, an independent. What are your Budget Priorities . Caller good morning and thanks for taking my call. I want to talk about the budget and one of the things is i live in ohios first Congressional District and the way a congressman once you get voted out over tire, they still receive pay for like ever. I believe our district is paying for five congressman. I do not want to get into term limits, but i would say that once they leave or are voted out of office, they should maybe only get pension for like three years and go back and get a regular job like anybody else. Than the other thing is that the elected congressman they elect a congressman and then they go and make rules about how much money i should get. They have cut my Social Security by 60 because i stopped working in Social Security and got a statesponsored pension. Toy vote on how much money take away from me, but i cannot vote on how much money to take away from them. Thats like taxation without representation and i would like to hear your comments, thank you. Host we would like to hear your comments on that if you would like to respond to what john had to say or if you have your own thoughts. Democrats, 2027488000. Republicans, 2027488001. Independents, 2027488002. Doug, indiana, line for democrats. Caller yes, sir. I was calling about the budget they are putting in there and it looks like what theyve done has is taken half 1 billion out of the Social Security function of the actual system, the money that pays for Social Security people to run the system. I believe thats the way republicans are going at the back tour to destroy Social Security backdoor to destroy Social Security. I wonder if democrats have ever brought that up. I dont hear anybody talking about it but a few independent people that have gone through that. Host democrats certainly bringing up their concerns about the future of Social Security and other programs during the tax debate. Were you a supporter of the tax reform legislation that is now law . We lost doug. Kathleen is in los angeles, california, a republican. Go ahead. Caller hello, my name is kathleen. I am from california. A lot of people that call in and talk proimmigration, it immigration. We never say its illegal aliens. They do not live in border states. Im in los angeles. Im in los angeles. More than 75 more than 75 of the jobs in construction are held by illegal aliens. California and los angeles has increased by 25 . All of these people that call in and talk about the Budget Priority is the wall. People that dont live in border states have no idea of the Ripple Effect and repercussions of illegal aliens in los angeles. We have over one million illegal aliens, hit and run accident have increased tremendously. Just last week a woman was killed up the street from my house and a mother was killed in front of her 14yearold son because of a hit and run accident. The other thing host was an illegal immigrant involved in that accident, kathleen . Caller i will put it this way. Hit and run immigrants accidents have increased because of ilLegal Immigration. Thatats classically kathleen in california. On this taxation, what is happening is last year we had multiple weather conditions, you know, hurricanes, floods, fires, and so on and so forth. The Insurance Companies i got my bill this morning and my house is insurance went up by 10 . Because the Insurance Companies thetrying to spread expenditures they had, but the tax bill included that as part of the tax bill. They are reducing taxes on the one hand, but on the other hand, they are going to be increasing my bill went up by 10 on the insurance end of it. Why arent the democrats doing something about that . Clint, in texas, line for republicans. Caller i just wanted to make the point that you cant look at immigration and the budget as uniquely independent. They are uniquely they are related. With the aging population in the united eights, Social Security spending is a major expenditure and we need to look at bringing in, you can be concerned about ilLegal Immigration, but we need to bring in immigrants into this country so they can continue to pay taxes more into the Social Security so we can actually pay for our aging population and you also cant distinguish the impact ilLegal Immigration has on health care because i work in health care. I have for 20 years. Theres a direct impact on state constitutions that require they pay or cover health care. If you go to the hospital, they cannot turn you away. A lot of Illegal Immigrants are going to the er, which is the most expensive way to Access Health care and someone is going to have to pay for that and it gets passed on to consumers elsewhere and passed on in taxes. You cannot look at these things independently. You have to look at them holistic way and you have to address it both issues. Host clint in texas, we want to on yourring from you Budget Priorities as we talk with members of the house and Senate Budget committees about their priorities. We are joined from statuary hall on capitol hill by congressman bill johnson, republican and of ohio. As we have been asking viewers about their priorities, what are yours and how are they shaping how you are coming to this discussion about a spending bill and this looming Government Shutdown . Guest obviously, john, we are not trying to shut down the government. That is certainly not the intent. Our conference is coming back. Congress is back in session this week after the holiday break and that is something we will be focused on, getting consensus about what our spending and budgeting priorities are and i have a great deal of confidence that we will resolve the issue and come to a solution by the 19th when the current cr expires. I am not too worried about that. As far as the priorities go, weve got a lot of things that need addressing. The president once and infrastructure bill. Weve also got the opioid crisis. Weve got a number of priorities that weve got to address in order to move America Forward and we will do that in due time. The president is going to beginning his state of the union speech in a couple of weeks and we will hear directly from him about what his priorities are as well. If any kind of spending plan we come up with, is going to have to have white house support as well. Know, weour viewers are focusing on house and Senate Budget committee members. Congressman johnson, Hearing Panel will be deciding the next chairman of the Budget Committee in the wake of diane black stepping down from that post. How does that process work . I know you are somebody who is very keen on watching what comes from that. Guest i am going to be standing before that panel today, making the case that i am the guy that should take the budget chair. My Life Experiences and professional experiences have given me a unique blend of experiences budgeting and resorts management have been a part of my Resource Management have been a part of my life from the very beginning having been raised on a two wheel wagon mill farm where every day was a survival. Budgetid not manage and resources, we did not eat and it would get awfully cold in the middle time if wintertime if we didnt have the fuel for the potbelly stoves we used to eat and cook on. In the military career, i managed budgets and programs with large budgets, commanded organizations that work struggling to perform and bringing them up to a High Standard of excellence. In my last job in the military down at u. S. Special Operations Command where i provided input to the president s budget on special Operations Programs and i can tell you that i lived day in and day out with the frustration that exists when our military has to live under continuing resolution after continuing resolution and programs are canceled or postponed. That is wasting taxpayer dollars and it certainly does not provide for our common defense, which is our most basic fundamental responsibility as members of congress. I am going to be meeting with that panel today and we should know later this evening about who the new budget chair is and regardless of who that person is, i am going to be supporting the decision one hundred 10 to move us forward. Host what is the vote on that process . Guest the Steering Committee is comprised of members of our conference that have been elected by our conference. They bring back a recommendation to our conference and of course, it has been voted on as a resolution by our conference. Its kind of an election within an election, if you will. The speaker sits on that panel, as do members of leadership and regional representatives from around the country that have been elected by representatives from the various states. Its a very transparent and open process. Host congressman rob woodall, congressman steve womack also up for leadership of the Budget Committee. What would you do different from chairman black to fix the budget process . Actually ryan speaker ryan began the process of budget reform when he took 2011. He chairmanship in tom price and diane black continued that effort. One of the things i have been saying and i have been trying to make the case for that we need a budget sharon chairman that will stay in the seat long enough to get conference consensus and drive solutions. Thats an area i am going to be focused on. We have had numerous legit chairs over recent years budget chairs over recent years and it has been sort of a revolving door, no fault of anyone. Camet think tom price into the job thinking he was going to be leaving. Certainly diane black did not come into the job thinking she was going to be leaving. That is where we are today. We need some consistency, stability, and focus in that position to get us to the solutions that and address the budget reforms needed that paul ryan began back in 2011. Host diane black of course stepping aside to focus on her run for governor. You are saying you would commit to serving out at this point it is still 6 years you can be chairman of a house committee, that is correct . Guest that is correct. Ist before you go, and appreciate the time, reconciliation was a process used to pass tax reform, summing the Budget Committee chair is very much involved in, but it is. Once a year bite at the apple what do you think republicans should use the budget reconciliation process for in 2019 coming up . What should they focus their efforts on . Guest i think that is something our conference will decide and get consensus around, but you make a very, very good point. The reconciliation process the budget reconciliation process is a very powerful legislative tool. It only requires 51 votes in the senate, a simple majority am a but it has very, very strict compliance rules to fit within the parliamentarians oversight over in the senate. It has got to deal with spending, taxes, revenue, so it is a very meticulous process. You cannot put a lot of policy issues inside of a budget reconciliation measure. That is something we will be talking about, but it is something that is always was always used effectively to move tax reform across the finish line. At the end of last year. I am confident you will see republicans use it again this year. Congressman from ohio up for possibly the top spot in the Budget Committee. Thank you for your time this morning. Guest good to be with you. Host we will keep talking to members of the house and Senate Budget committees as we continue to take calls from viewers on the Budget Priorities. Democrats, 2027488000. Republicans, 2027488001. Independents, 2027488002. Give us a call as we show you the shot of a very foggy morning on capitol hill. Indianapolis, line for republicans. Go ahead. I wanted to call on the common sense can realize the whole immigration problem is hiring illegals. If this this is would quit hiring illegals, the illegals would quit coming. ,ost all right, to al missouri, line for democrats. Caller if you go back and look 1977, 1986, they didnt want to pay 1. 5 billion in the Social Security. Medicaid come if they paid the five point Million Dollars they owed Social Security and stop trying to support themselves in retiring like they are, they are not going to win in 2018 because they cut medicaid again and you know this. The k09 people had to pay tax when they retired because they were not paying into Social Security and medicaid in 1982. They did not take it out of their paychecks and you can look it up, sir. Host from missouri to florida, nathaniel is in think petersburg, florida, republican. Go ahead. Caller you know, i always say i am a colin powell republican. Mandatory line is the registration being lifted where people do not have to for the Affordable Care act, they do not have to pay into that, but yet, the budget will give somewhere and 250000 1500 as far as being able to get something back, it makes no sense to me. Late go into the tour tory to the hospital, is going to cost money. Somewhere along the line, taxpayers have to pick up the budget. You have to pay for those people who will not register. It makes no sense to me. Ridiculous situation. In regards to immigration, the big problem with immigration has nothing to do with what you people are talking about. It really has to do with one thing. There was not one black person who was unemployed during of slavery. The problem is people being able to vote or it we dont want you to vote in this country because you will have a monopoly and then i will say this lastly because i really want to say this. And can i use another voice . Ron, opera, run, opera, run. Host we have been taking you to capitol hill to talk to members of house and Senate Budget committees. We also want to let you know about where the leadership stands on the budget and funding issues, members of the house and Senate Funding leadership staking out positions on the house and senate floor. Here is Mitch Mcconnell yesterday talking about the importance of coming to an agreement on the budget. Senator mcconnell we all know clip][video , to bee the year 2013 precise, discretionary defense spending has been cut by 85 billion more than discretionary nondefense spending. This might sound like an abstract distinction, but it has very real consequences for our national security. These disproportionate cut severed is the readiness of American Forces to address threats to rid our military leaders have explained this over and over and over again. Just months ago, the chairman of toldoint chiefs of staff our colleagues at the Armed Services committee that over the last decade, the u. S. Militarys competitive advantage against potential adversaries is eroding. He cited budgetary instability as the key reason. At the same hearing, secretary s added, noatti enemy in the field has done more to increase the readiness of our military then sequestration. No enemy in the field has done more to harm the readiness of our military then sequestration. The men and women we trust to lead our military have made it abundantly clear that status quo in defense funding and the further instability that would result from our failure to reach an agreement is handicapping our servicemembers. President , in the next week and a half, lets put aside partisan rhetoric and start heeding the warnings of our nonpartisan military members. Leaders. Host that was Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell on the floor of the senate yesterday. We are joined by members of the house and Senate Budget committees to continue to talk about their priorities ahead of this potential spending deal and we are joined from statuary hall by Debbie Wasserman schultz, a democrat from florida. Back on december 20th, you send out of tweet saying that dreamers cannot wait. Of this is the only country where many of these that many of these patriots have ever known, we must pass the dream act and i will not vote for another spending bill until we do. As we are coming up on perhaps another spending bill, perhaps another cr or larger deal, do you still feel that way . Guest host i absolute guest i absolutely do still feel that way. These are young people that have been in this country since they were very small, knowing no other country except this one. Day are2 dreamers a being jeopardized by losing their protective status under the dream act and we need to make sure that they are able to remain in the only country to have ever known, be able to continue to contribute to improving america, whether serving in the military or attending college or starting a Small Business as one of the dreamers that i did a press conference with earlier this year, to highlight the contributions they have made. Yn addition to it being wholl irresponsible that we have kicked the budget can down the road three times now we are in january of the fiscal year, theres actually only nine months left in the fiscal year we shouldve passed a permanent appropriations act at the end of september. Its just irresponsible and to leave these young people twisting in the wind while we continue to focus as republicans have on taking care of the healthiest wealthiest, most fortunate americans, billionaires and corporations through the tax bill, which is what they focused on all last year, is an abomination. Host in your mind, does it have to be the dream act or nothing . Is there another potential deal and would you support funding for the wall if it included some sort of path to citizenship for dreamers . Guest you mean the wall that mexico is supposed to pay for according to President Trump throughout his campaign and even as recently as this weekend . No. It doesnt have to be the dream act, per se. Sure that to make included in any negotiation that is final when we passed a budget pass a budget, or even when we pass a continuing resolution because of the cannot reach an agreement by january 19, we need to make sure that those young people who have known no other country than this one who have made remarkable contributions and continued to do so every day, that they are able to remain in this country, that they can eventually be able to have pathway to citizenship, and that we dont send them back to places where they may not even speak the language and really have no memory of ever having lived. Support, areyour there other must include provisions when it comes to looking at the 2018 the rest of the fiscal year . Guest this is the first time thee the adoption of Childrens Health Insurance Program, chip program, which forides Health Care Funding millions of Vulnerable Children around the country, the first time we have not had bipartisan easy agreement to reauthorize the Childrens Health Insurance Program and make sure we can continue to take care and keep those children healthy. Provision that has to be included in any final budget deal is the Childrens Health Insurance Program reauthorization. Thats absolutely critical. Let me just add. I listen to what senator mcconnell said right before i came on and frankly, its evident that led by him and Speaker Paul Ryan the republicans in both houses of of 2000, they spent all 17 focused on one priority, passing their tax scam bill that increases taxes on the middle class, blew a 1. 5 trillion hole in the deficit, the increases health care cost, and will have about 13 millions americans 13 million americans lose Health Insurance all to give tax breaks to the wealthiest 1 and corporation and thats why we have had three continuing arounds and why we the whole year and finally passed the budget in the house after we passed all 12 Appropriations Bills. How does that make any sense . It supposed to be the other way around. My colleague, congressman johnson, was saying before ironically was talking about the need for budget reform and how important a priority that was for them. Reform, thendget it has felt like we have people in Nursery School running the federal budget. Host you are the former chair of the dnc, it sounds like thats the message you think democrats should be focused on heading into the 2018 elections . This is an about message. This is about doing right by the American People. Listening to senator mcconnell, to suggest the only priority we have in the budget is making sure that we take care of the Defense Budget they actually wanted to leave the entire rest of the domestic budget to an omnibus later on and pass a one year to fullyear defense appropriations budget, which is absolutely irresponsible. We should leave all the other programs making sure we take care of our domestic security to the side . What about funding education . What about Funding Health care . What about funding Disease Research . What about funding infrastructure . President trump has made a big show and a show is all it had is ali has been about is all it has been about spending in infrastructure. We need to make sure we responsibly budget, that means doing the entire budget at the same time, which we should do it on time. It has been many years since we passed the budget on time. We need to do that by sitting down at the table and working together. I have sat on the Appropriations Committee since my second term in congress. Even at the beginning, we were still known as the most Bipartisan Committee and unfortunately, that has eroded significantly. We need to get back to those days where appropriators sat down across the aisle and were able to work through each of the 12 budget bills and make sure we could send that worked with the senate and the white house to send the entire appropriations act to the president. Thats the only responsibility we have in the United States constitution as congress and republicans have six have consistently abdicated that responsibility. Host people who have watched a this budget process, why do budgets matter . They dont have the force of law, they dont need to be signed by the president. Guest its funny that you raise that. The budget should matter because the idea behind a budget is that you are creating a spending blueprint. Even with that spending blueprint, the Appropriations Committee in both houses end up thatg spending decisions dont wholly a line with these budgets, even when we pass them, which we dont always do even with the way they line up, but they establish spending caps and a blueprint. A response responsible budgeting means we should adopt a budget. I dont think it would be responsible to ignore it, but the budget process does need some reform and i think it needs to be utilized and developed less as a political weapon, which is really all it is today, and more as a document that truly helps guide us towards what we are ultimately going to include in the appropriations act. Host one thing we cannot ignore, the president s tweets and comments. I wanted to give you a chance to respond. He brought up a case that involved you in his interview with the New York Times last week. He was talking about the federal court case against the former i. T. Aide for a number of congressional democrats, himself yourself. What happened to the pakistani theynd the two servers broke into a million pieces. What happened to him . I want to get your thoughts on him bringing that up in your response to what happened. Guest its not responded the prizing the president would try to distract attention away from the fact he has had several members of his Campaign Team indicted and brought up on charges, that he is doing everything he cant to focus attention away from the fact that he and his Campaign Team and white house employees are being investigated for colluding with the russian government to impact the outcome of the 2016 president ial campaign. This is par for the course for the president and frankly, it would be a lot more constructive if he would make sure we could sit down and take care of the needs of this country and not focus on his wealthy contributors and corporations and make sure we can keep those streamers here in this country those dreamers here in this country and cooperate so we can get to the bottom of how at the end of the day, the russians were able to impact the outcome of this election and prevent it from ever happening again. Host congresswoman Debbie Wasserman schultz, congresswoman from florida, come back and talk to us again. We will go back to your phone calls about your Budget Priorities. We are talking to democrats, republicans, and independents from around the country. Democrats can call at 2027488000. Republicans, 2027488001. Independents, 2027488002. Wayne has been waiting in michigan, line for republicans. What are your Budget Priorities . Dwayne, actually. This woman she got all the talking points in. Continuingot have a resolution, they did not have a budget for over 8 years. She did not mention that, did she . Hello . She didnt mention the fact that Obamas Administration never had a budget. It was continuing resolutions for 8 years. Host is that not true . Mention that. Not my priorities are ilLegal Immigration. Did you know that right now there are at least 7 million illegals in houston . One of them ran into a trailer of mine with a fake drivers license, a fake everything when i cantng remember the exact place. I filed a report on this guy and they came back with no drivers except i sawded his drivers license. I got a copy of it. Host what do you want to see on immigration . Wall, some viewers have talked about a time out any sort of immigration for a decade where do you fall . Caller heres the deal. Youve got dreamers who are lawyers and doctors, right . How come they couldnt become citizens at the same time . If you can become a lawyer and a doctor, how come you cant become a citizen at the same time . Host got your point. Tiffany is in new jersey on the line for democrats, go ahead. Caller thank you for taking my call. For the last gentleman that just called, its because the law doesnt allow them to apply if you come over illegally. If you are technically trespassing without proper entry, that is why. They cannot become legal, which is a problem. With immigration i think Lindsey Grahams approach is right, you need to have a massive overhaul of the entire immigration system. Dont kick these people out. If you are doing something wrong, you have got to go. We dont have to be cruel and harsh to anybody. My Budget Priorities, Trump Administration needs to stop giving the wealthy everything and people like senator grassley who say basically we are too stupid to manage our own money because we are not very wealthy, i think that is sanctimonious. Host mario in clarkstown, michigan, line for caller i am very concerned about Democrats Holding our budget hostage for the United States. Idle big is right for them to do that for said i dont think its right for them to do that for people who are not citizens. Host we now take you to the senate side of the capital on a very foggy morning on capitol hill. John bozeman joins us this morning, senator from arkansas. The Budget Committee member we have been talking to members of the Budget Committee all morning. What are your priorities . You heard from viewers just now on priorities when it comes to budgeting and spending. What are your priorities when it had when it comes to heading into a potential deal . Guest certainly we need to get a deal done. Nobody wants to shut down the government. Its sad we are in a situation now where in several months, the budget started in october and here we are several months into it and our agencies simply dont know what kind of funding theyve got. My priority is to get it done, to strike a deal. Also, the priority for the next year i think this is one of the things Republican Center democrats republicans and democrats agree on. We need to fix the budget process so we dont get ourselves in this every year. Host whats wrong with the process that we are getting ourselves into this situation again . Guest a lot of it is structural. We are talking about spending many trillions of dollars, just getting the apparatus together to get that done and get the oversight and things like that, getting floor time on the senate and the house. Of are some factors. Also, right now, its just difficult. Weve got to get a mechanism that we can get the bills on the floors, get them voted on and that way we have a situation where everybody can participate. Sadly, right now, we are basically a few members are going to sit down and iron out the final budget agreement, which involves over a trillion dollars. Host who is getting in the way of those fixes . Why cant those fixes happen . Who is benefiting right now from the process as it is . Guest i dont think anybody is benefiting, its just a situation where the structures are woken down, so we need to look broken down. We need to look at the cause. For the last several years, we have simply not been able to put the various individual spending things on the floor. For instance, va milltown would be one. We put it on the floor of the house and senate and vote just on that anna smaller amount on a smaller amount, get that done, go on to defense, health aNd Human Services, chop it up, let people participate, let them amend the bills in a free and open way in the senate and then you get a good product. What we are doing now is being in a situation where here we are andemonth into the process our agencies are having to spend the same amount of money they did last year in the same way. That makes no sense at all. Host i know you are on the budgeting side, but on the appropriations side, there were some Appropriations Bills that were historically bipartisan. I am thinking military. When did that start to change and what happened to make it less bipartisan than it used to be . Reallyi think it started about 10 years ago. Its been a long time since we have been able to get these bills on the floor. I think its just a matter of different priorities. The country is very split. Some things democrats and republicans have been able to do a good job of getting done things like infrastructure in the past getting highway bills done, the big Water Resources bill done. We passed a big chemical bill. Those things arent glamorous, but they are the backbone of the country our infrastructure. Way comes to budget, when it comes to spending money in different areas, thats the area where we are very divided. Some people feel like we need to increase defense. Others feel like we need to spend more money on discretionary spending. The reality is there is just not a whole lot of money to go around right now with 20 trillion deficit 20 trillion debt and many hundreds of billions of dollars of deficit every year, it makes it very, very difficult. Host one thing that country is split on is the immigration issue. Do you think an immigration deal comes together here as part of the spending agreement thats being worked on . Guest i think thats the path we are going down. That is going to be difficult to do. I am the guy that feels like we need to secure the border. The reason we need to do that is regardless of the deal we put in you dont have Border Security, we will be back in the same position we are in the next five to 10 years. We have to secure the border not only because of ilLegal Immigration, we are a nation at war and we need to know who is coming across. Theres a huge drug war on the other side of the border spilling into the United States. Theres lots of reasons to secure the border. So far, we are having lots of pushback by colleagues on the democrat side that simply dont want to do that. Know you, like all your colleagues, are closely watching the mueller investigation. Its on the front pages of the Washington Post. The headline director mueller special counsel mueller looking to seek an interview with President Trump. Try to find time to sit down and interview him with his investigation. Do you think that would be a good idea for the president to sit down with the special counsel . Guest i think the president needs to talk to his lawyers and as how precedent as far president s reacted in the past in that way and follow that accordingly. Host senator don bozeman is ozman is a john bo republican from arkansas. Back to your calls asking about your Budget Priorities. You cannot quite see the capitol dome anymore from our shot here but itthe lower senate, is up there. We want to hear from you out there on your Budget Priorities this morning. A democrats can call at 2027488000. Republicans, 2027488001. Independents, 2027488002. Carol is in philadelphia, democrat, good morning. Caller caller good morning. I have two questions not questions, comments if i may. First off with the democrats and the daca people, i understand they might want to help them, but i cannot understand why they are not fighting for Social Security and medicare for our seniors. Second of all, its both parties, republicans and have ats they have to heart. Cut throw us under the bus, our Social Security, cut our medicare. We worked for this. I live in a place where there is section 8 housing. They drive brandnew cars, their rent is paid, their electric is paid, everything is paid. They live high on the hog. I am 67. I had three brain surgeries, heart problems. Since trump came in, i went out and got a temp job because i am afraid to be homeless. Dreamers, but please, republicans, democrats, dont go with paul ryan and trump there are other ways. Get these people out of section 8 housing that can go to work and make a living. Why come after us after 40 years . I lost my job. My pension just cut me another 100. Two years ago they cut me 80. I dont know if i can afford my rent anymore. All i ask is both of the parties, have a heart and do not cut the medicare. Do not cut the Social Security. I bless them both, but please, have a heart. Host from massachusetts, eddie is waiting, line for republicans into the country speaking spanish, they speak spanish at home, listen to spanish radio and spanish tv. Host where did you get this statistic from . I will see if i can find it for our viewers. Guest it was a reporter. If im not mistaken, it was even on cspan, but they dont assimilate. They can graduate from high school, but 50 are not assimilated into society. Thank you. Host what does assimilation include . What needs to happen in your mind for someone to assimilate . Is it just language . Guest they are not even proficient in english to assimilate into the community. They stay with the spanish community. Host so what would you like to see . Is it more than just speaking english . Guest they should go through the regular caller they should go through the regular immigration process. Go before a judge, go before a committee. If they are not assimilating, send them back to where they came from. Host stewart, mechanicsville, virginia, line for independents, go ahead. Caller good morning. Have you ever noticed whenever my pet project or pet project they always say, will thats just a drop in the bucket. If you have enough drops in the bucket, the bucket overflows. With regards to these dreamers, i guess my wife and i for 50 years, we were dreamers and then my children, two daughters had dreams and my grandchildren had dreams. What i would like to know is this am and i am sure it would be found out. I would like to find out how much does the Dreamer Program daca, how much does it cost this government on a yearly basis for these Young Children to go to school . Dont get me wrong, its not their fault. We should take care of them, but its got to be with caveats. In other words, see if democrats would go for this. 20 yearsannot vote for or 15 years or whatever. Also, put your mom and dads name, they should never, ever be able to vote. I am not saying kicked them out of the country, but they should pay a fine for doing what they did. That is my Budget Priority. Host let me try to put a number on what you are talking about. The Congressional Budget Office came out with a report on what it would cost to legalize some 2 million dreamers. The Washington Times noting it would be about 21. 9 billion over the next decade as those legal people would claim tax and other benefit they were not able to get before. That cbo report coming out in middecember if you want to check it out on cbos website. We lost the caller. Kevin is in michigan. Go ahead. Caller by Budget Priorities are this. We create a budget that is yetosed to have caps in it, we dont follow it. Who is accountable when we cant meet our budget . Do we point to the house . Who should we be going after specifically when each of these sections arent met . If we make these caps we should follow them. If we are not following them, we need to find out who is not following and why. Can you help me understand that . Host who do you think we should be going after when congress decides to list these lift these budget caps, whod you think you as a voter should hold responsible . Caller i think because i know congress controls all the money, i think congress should have to put out an open referendum where the senate and other people approve it and the president says, i can understand that. I candicial system says understand that, the senate itself again says we are overriding this so that names are on the overrides. Just dont think they do that they are allowed to blow the budget. You and i live by a budget in our houses coming yet our government legislators cant seem to be accountable for living to a budget and i want them to be more exposed. I want someone to be accountable where they are saying this group of people or these individuals or this lobbying group has influenced these people enough that says, we are going to overspend and then were going to have to understand somewhere else. Host do you trust the news media to report on that and let you know about that . Media has anews direct line to our senators. You have them on the program, its beautiful. I am looking at the senators on tv on the Budget Committee, these are the people that are supposed to be answering our questions. You have put the people who can be responsible right in front of us. I trust them to do that. I trust the news media to get our representatives, our legislators on the tv right in front of me, ask them the question, and then have them be accountable for whats going on and maybe hold them a little bit more accountable. I am not being really bad on washington journal here, but when you had the question a few minutes ago and the lady from argan the democrat from florida, you asked her a specific question and she totally pivoted away from it, did not answer the question and we let her go. If we asked some of the a, at least have them answer your question or tell you, not what answer your question. Host we will talk to a few more members of congress throughout our program. Tensions up here and your previous callers did a good job we olding us accountable, set the caps and dont follow the caps and the spending goes year. Ry were approaching trillion dollar deficits, deficits the one t of debt you add in year. We are getting up to 21 trillion of the kids,e back the only group that doesnt have a lobbyist up here. We have 100 thrillion in andnded liability, Medicare Welfare under want to get everybody, everybody has got unique gifts and talents they workforce, people that have left the workforce because they are discouraged force. The work and that would be a huge productivity bump. Everyone thinks unemployment is low right now, it is technically. Think that. If you have normal work place rates or levels, our Participation Rate is low as years, right . 0 eople just discourage and left the labor market altogether. Get them back in the labor market through some welfare policy for ablebody workers, the labor get them working again, get full greenspan and bernie sanders, when the Housing Market anked said the worst outcome was not the loss of the value, it was loss of skills and task rebuilding the skills as people try to reemerge back into place. Rk that is a heavy lift. I hope we get asked that. When you go back to the Small Business, big businesses, Workforce Skills issue is the number one issue. Workforce skills, regulation, prices down. Re that is a tough one. That is the broad range of what we want to get at. Issue se we have daca coming up, if you want to get into that. Certainly do. Guest what is nonstarter for schultz comes to was on our show earlier. Party, they promise want their way or the highway. Daca, 800,000 people, ultiply by three or four, the average chain migration effect, they will bring in three or four people. Hat is three or four million eople. Cis had a report, last data come in for 2016, brought make 50, 0 a year, k12 education for two kids is 26 grand. States, politically driven, industries that need a milliondisplace the two i just said, plus three or four million, five or six million new have huge you welfare problems and people out of the work force i just described. Million new people, displace five million current workers, and then are in a downward cycle, got virtuous cycle,a educating kids k12. Economics for years, is. S dont know what it they wont go to college. Kids dont know what cost, price or is, got to do better job teaching them business is your ticket to success. How anyone is opposed to this, in this city, the other side doesnt want to issues. The host when it comes to who is going tow pay the bill, the does it have to be and who will pay the bill for the wall . Question, the wall pays for , the wall itself over decade or so. I think at the top end, somewhere 10 to 20 billion, the small dacaor piece, is 30 billion. Right . Who is going to pay for the wall question. Ng the press never asks, who is going to pay the bigger tab and is just the, times four, 40 million. Start multiplying that out, imes 30 billion, you have tremendous problem. Host cbo report from december billion over. 9 next decade to legalize 2 dreamers. Migrant guest right. That is federal. Federal. S you are leaving out state and local who funds 90 of 26,000 dollars for one family per year. Ost are you confident that speaker ryan and leader mcconnell have their priorities with what n line youve been discuss whenning it omes to potential for immigration deal . Guest we have been playing very ood team ball in conference with 218 republican votes for cr two times ago, leadership public, in the press, in conference, that daca will not be tied to musthave legislation. They promise it will get a majority of republicanpublic, i be, is the way it should right . Including a budget so we dont shut down. The American People gave house, enate and white house and they are Holding Us Accountable and Economic Issues burning, this just a trump phenomena, this was bernie through trump, havent had real wages go up for 40 years, bernie knew that, he was trending until the system was rigged against him and probably would have won issue. Economic President Trump run on that luckily, we won, we did the tax business, stock market going through the roof, highs, gdp alltime growth is at three, Mainstream Press said could never be reached, get used to new normal and accept being european like instead of wine and cheese. We can do better than that and we are. Host before we lose you, the played by eing republicans on capitol hill, i wonder what you think of the that President Trump has in the white house and the revelations from the fire and problems, does he have with his team inside his own house . Get into the drama stuff, just focus on the in the policy is going right direction, the Mainstream Press has been doing the russia cant or a full year and name a statute a year in. Dershowitz is pretty good. We need to provide american Lower Health Care premiums next. Tax cut is down, Small Business back, that is the bulk of the job necessary my district. To hit. N, we need regulatory, doing great on. Aadministrationd worked very well with the house and the senate on the tax cut piece. We did a plant, can do better, that is what i see forward. For congressman, thank you your time this morning. Guest you bet, thank you. Phone ack to taking callos Budget Priorities on a foggy morning still on capitol hill. Has been wait nothing sterling, virginia, line for republicans. Morning. D caller good morning. Id like to say i support Jeff Sessions idea to remove the first section of the 14th know, birth right citizenship. Y mother was smuggling back in 1962, to all three until the busted. N she got host smuggling what . Caller pregnant women into the United States. She was a registered nurse. The reason she waited until 1962, was because that is when jets came out and she knew she in a keep a pregnant woman girdle for 31 2 hours, but not hours, n and a half which would have been a good flight. F you hit head winds, it would have took 10 hours. Host what were her reasons for doing that, gary . Caller money. Money. People want to get into this country. In america, e born you hit the lottery. If youre born in america and the lottery ou hit twice. Hit the lottery three times, but that is a different story. Host how long did you go to gary . For, caller she didnt go to jail. P paul robbins doing that ound her again, because she had contacts is whereanama and that she started her operation, but money. E good i mean, you know, back in the was like mid60s 1000 to get into the country. Host gary, is she still alive . No, she passed away about five years ago. Six years ago. Ever get a chance to talk with her about your views on immigration to this she was doing . T well, man, she was different. Estranged, but its a long story. O, she just did it for the money. I mean, you know, wed go down, casino while the andwas working on the women that is the way it was. Ost thanks for sharing your family story. Mike is in suffolk, virginia, independents. Mike, go ahead. Caller hello. Host good morning. Caller good morning, how are you . Host doing well. What are your Budget Priorities . Caller i have just something i to throw out about the daca kids. If they agree to serve years itary for two minimum at the age of 18, then. Y stay if they dont agree, then they where they came from, no matter where they were born, heir parents brought them here illegally and it is no fault of theirs, but they are the ones to pay for their mother and fathers sins. Ost mike, why the military specifically . Why could the peace corps be part of that service or some of service . Caller no. Think that all of them should have to serve in the military breeds the military people who love their country. One of them, so i know. And im very, very strong about military. Like ey learn what it is to be in the american military. Host thanks for the call. Warren, in north carolina, line democrats. Warren, what are your Budget Priority . Caller good morning, cspan. Host good morning. Caller good morning, fellow americans. Budget plan idea is to get special interest and Corporate America out of our government. How do you do that . Caller you got money, you can send lobbyists to the government practically write your own laws, a lot of laws on the books not for the people, it is corporates. He government supposed to be for the people and by the people. I mean, until we can get that out, were going to have problems. That republican representative from virginia in he brought up a lot of issues. He brought up welfare and education. Okay, with education, you find republicans always cutting to education, so yeah, education, theyd dont have no money. Not long ago, i saw on the news got public ou eastls with no heat on the coast and under deep freeze. Public schools with no heat, be the supposed to greatest country in the history of the world, but yet still we traditions like that, you know. The republicans, the rich republicans, your children dont go to public schools, so i know it. Care less about all right. Host in north carolina. Caller theyre pretty adequate. In north carolina, the public are pretty ms adequate, i will say that. Bout the School Systems in other cities, i mean, you know, going on, of things our country is social and a lot things hurting our country. You got republicans and forth ts going back and standing up being a real american. Under the new administration host what does it mean to be a real american, warren . Fight as if standing up washington and from other worlds, i mean, so far apart from each other. Warren, in north carolina. John is in mount pleasant, south republicans. Ne for john, go ahead. What yes, i believe representative dave bratt articulated the Republican Party stands tremendously. Hope you standing, i have him on several more times during the month. He a true american and articulated the difference between democrats and republicans, building that wall will save a lot of money. Wall, ot the cost of the it is the money that will be saved by building the wall. That are out esks of control because drugs coming through the southern border. John, we had a caller earlier today that said, but mexicont trump said that was going to pay for that wall. Does that matter to you . No, it doesnt matter, just build the wall. Our country save lives and money and as far as privatizing the schools is the thing to do. Schools are not they should be for everyone. They should fund private schools and have competition with the schools. Ctor of host john, you mentioned ongressman dave bradwell, will have him on down the road, not a couple time of months. Threemonth rule in between booking members. We will have his voice down the to get as manyry different members as possible, to hear from them, talk to them to take your on calls. Tennessee. D city, line for democrats. Good morning. Caller good morning. Want to make say four things. One is, where do they get the for the average amount of money that people make, a family makes . They say 50 or 45,000, i just people. Ow these im 62 years old and most people dont make that money working three jobs. The other thing, three ways really to get rich in america today, one is frowned on because it is like gambling, winning the lottery. The other two are being elected federal office, because that is the jackpot. And they penniless come out wealthy or go in with a a lot. And come out with other, it is t the just anyone and everyone that atches anything about their local politicians, the amount of iney they make when they are office and they should pay more attention to why they were elected. Of the people they were elected by rather than themselves, that is all i have to say. Host what do you think is more likely in terms of the average in this country . What do you think sounds honestly, somewhere around 75,000. Bureau in 2015, 2016, the Median Household Income ranged between 22,000 and 134,000 with medium 47,000,level value of census bureau, good place to go for those numbers. Is in redding, pennsylvania, line for republicans. Good morning. Hey, good morning, how are you . Host doing well. Caller thats good. Listen, i want to tell you about daca. To me, years ago, 40 or 50 was a go in chicago, it guy from greece, he was illegal. With a passport, with a greencard. Went turn around and squeal at him and sent him back to greece. A bad guy . No, im american. To me is destroying the country because these people legal, so they should take kids back where they come from and go their own and god bless donald trump, building the wall, we need the wall. We re sovereign country, dont need people to come in any time they want, they have to in the right way. Host bill, would you be okay with some sort of spending deal includes funding for the all, if it included a path to citizenship for those Daca Recipients, the dreamers . Caller yes. Host you would be okay with that . Aller i would be okay with that, yeah. But the wall has to be built. Because to tell you that is where donald trump to put the wall and you got to put fear in the back, the gun. Ine host all right, that is bill in redding, pennsylvania, this morning. Statutary hall on capitol hill, joined by john yarmuth. Budget ahead of the showdown of spending, what are your priorities you are bringing to the debate . To are musthaves for you join any spending bill . Guest the first thing im oncerned about and i know im ranking democrat on the Budget Committee, weve been arguing this for a long time. Pay equal attention to nondefense discretionary we do to defense discreationary spending. Act we pass budget control in 2011, that was kind of the deal we made that the way we two categories would be treated with parity and republicans want huge defense spending and dont want to do anything on the nondefense side. What we argue is a lot of the Actual National security the nondefense side, Homeland Security, otherns expenses, f. B. I. , Law Enforcement programs. Ere very concerned we treat those two categories equally. Host you mentioned, you are Ranking Member on Budget Committee. Is the budget process broken . If so, why . Know that it is broken. It doesnt make a lot of sense. E labor every year to pass a budget in the house and most years we do because it is vote. Ty rarely is the same budget passed on the senate side. Documents only provide what we call topline numbers for the appropriations work. Ss to so we budget certain amounts in categories ander were basically dealing, again, with a third, not even a third budget, trillion dollars out of four trillion, what the has control ally over. O we give guidelines to the apropriator when is they allocate the funds. Is more of rhetorical exercise than it is a legal exercise, but it is something that we get to discuss our priorities. 15 shortterm continuing resolutions in the past five years . A great question, john. I wish i knew. I would love to put the blame on of course they are in control. A lot of it is that they cant consensus in their own conference about where they want to spend money and how much want to spend. Were pretty much frozen, we democrats are pretty much frozen of the process. If there were again, more they cant seem to figure out to do. Ey want you have my colleague, dave he is a Freedom Caucus member who dont want to do deficit spending, want to cut everything, including defense and have a lot of republicans who are defense hawks and want more. Nd a lot that is why over the past few years, they have had trouble and drags on and on and by the time we get to the fixes. E tis shortterm host democratic side, there was several democrats who expressed democrats didnt make a stand in december for on immigrational they ca fix and saying wont vote for another continuing resolution unless that is in there, are you in group . Guest im getting to be in that group. Any t think you can have absolutely uncrossable line in processes, but what were getting to the point now where he republicans say we have until march to do this. No, we dont, there are dreamers status everyday. There are dreamers who are trying to decide whether they hould enroll for the second semester in school. This is a crisis for them. Crisis for them and we need to actually get this now. G right host what would you guest go past january 19th is a to them. E host what would you give to get that fix . Ed be okay with border funding . Guest im not for building a wall. Enhancing Border Security. And the way we like to talk about it or i like to talk about it, we definitely do want to have operational control over not the rs. A wall is most effective way to do that. Ive been to the border and patrol. To border there are areas of the border, southern border, where walls make sense, particularly when have two urban areas adjacent and networks set up, if across the border and disappear and youre in the United States for good. Desert, 100 miles having paso, no point in a wall. You can have electronic ortection and you have a day say, several days to apprehend peep whole cross the border. A border easons why doesnt make sense across the entire southern border, but ways to secure the border and provide operational control. You ask nteresting, if the members, the members of border from those states, very few actually want a wall. John yarmuth, an minute or two left with you. Report, ask about a you are part of a group of legislators that met with a sychologist to hear about her concerns about President Trumps mental state. That as the purpose of meeting and what happened in that meet something lee, actually, dr. Mandy a psychiatrist from yale, 4000 Mental Health professionals from across the donald who, in observing trump behavior, believe he manifests a lot of behaviors violent conduct. That is her specialty, for 20 shes an expert in forensic psychiatry. Hat leads to crime and violence. She actually made herself available to me and others to the concerns she has. There is a pick she and 26 put out last year called the dangerous case of donald trump. Diagnose presume to of them have none actually met with him or treated him, but what they say, again, they see patterns of behavior and are concerning to them they want to make sure that the congress is aware of that, that hey we understand what they perceive as danger here represents to the nation and to understand that if we were to get to the point of process 25th amendment invoked and congress would have to deal with it, they are available as a resource. Host what specific evidence would you point to as evidence of that danger . Think probably the most significant behavioral lives in that trump the moment and doesnt really think about the consequences of actions or his statements. That connected with his combined impulsive nature and need to strike back when offended, are things that in the lead to uation could dangerous outcomes. Host congressman john yarmuth, kentucky, third Congressional District, Ranking Member on Budget Committee. Time. Reciate your guest good to be with you. Approa host approaching 9 30 on the east coast. The last halfhour of our program continuing to get your thoughtos your budget as we are away from unless a nt shut down deal is reached before midnight january 19th. Democrats, 2027488000. Republicans, 2027488001. 2027488002. Lewis, north carolina, go ahead. Cspan and morning america. This is just totally ridiculous trying to sident is children, they are our babies, they are not immigrants, for have been in america years, very prominent. Dont see how america can babieshis man to use our as ransom, to build a wall, how is that to be a president to for a babies as ransom wall . F they cant find anything wrong with that and they think that is okay, then america is in trouble. My flag right now is flying since july 14th, upside down. Once he said about gays and les i knew the military, our country was in trouble. My flag is upside down, telling that our country is in distress of what this man calls the president , is doing to america. That is about all i have to say that. Host the president s tweets about transgender troops serving military . Caller exactly. Very year i have my flag out, you know, independence day, and when he merica came up with that, i knew right then and there our country was trouble. You got people willing to serve best of their he ability and, you know, you even i dogs in the military, dont see nobody pulling dogs out of the military. They can serve the military, but human being wants to serve in the military cant because of elses thoughts. I just think it is totally ridiculous. Is upside down. Host when will you turn it right side up . See the country is back on the right track again and everything is looking stable. Now everything, they call it looking stable is for the ich part of the country, the ones who already have money and stocks, that is not america. Is just 1 . Been talking about a wall of 1. 5 trillion dollars, they could take some of that money, instead of giving it to them and build a wall. My understanding host number on the wall the was 18 asked for reportedas the request last week in several outfits outlets. Al jerry is in pittsburgh, texas, line for republicans. Ahead. Go caller thank you for taking my call. I was representative at the 2014 convention in fort worth and they were talking about the number of people in ng across the border september and october of 2013. And i got home and looked on the they were coming a railroad from Central America. 2013, 2014 and 2015, the daca people they are alling daca, they came from Central America on the railroad through mexico and mexico has immigration laws, but they gave 72hour pass to get mexico. They came by train. They didnt come across a wall. Made a contract in 2012, according to the you can believe it ver the news, that they would be candled we the gastric ner familyd buck dlts service center, process them and send them all over the country, what happened. Host bring us to 2018, what happen in this current debate . Currently they are not enforcing the law. 86 and ed everify in never enforced it. For is a still penalty iring asians that dont have a Social Security number. And National Homebuilders said that they would have to increase the price they cant hire illegal aliens, they admitted on advertisement that theyre ng illegals and there is anywhere from 100 to 10,000, category. To the how many times they have broken the law. Concern ry on your about the immigrants you were 2014 and out in 2013, 2015, those individuals would ot have been allowed to be involved in the daca program, requirements were that you would be under the age of 31 as of 2012, you came to the u. S. Reaching your 16th birthday, continuously resided United States, since june 15th, 2007, and were physically resident in the United States on john 15th 2012 at the time of making requests for the daca ion for program, along with several thers, so with those require men ments, people you were talking currently be in the daca program. Jeff in dayton, ohio, line for democrats. Go ahead. Caller mmm, john, thanks for call. G my host go ahead. Caller you there . Host yes, sir. Caller yeah. Id like to make a comment on to wall that trump wants seen nd have you ever those climbing walls that you climb up . Host yes, sir. You think these walls are just going to be rock walls to climb up . A piece of rope scaffold the thing at any time, this is the silliest thing ive heard about putting a wall and everybody believes it. Rump puts this out and story. Dy believes this host what would work . What do you think would be best to secure u. S. Borders and the borders . Caller well, story. Ost what would this is what i believe we should somehow get to quit hiring these put daca all these people should be amnesty, here, ave been living these are our children, they are going to school with our of dren, they are friends our children and the children future, so get these quit hiring ly, do something ly with it, these are people that peoples grasses out know, ifornia, you illegally, making it under the and these are what all the complaints are about with this his car called in about getting hit, guy without a people with licenses, put money back into country and that would solve the whole thing. Ohio. Jeff in weve six members of the house and Senate Budget to let e this morning you hear from them about their priorities amid this spending debate, also showed you Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell with his thoughts yesterday. His Senate Minority leader chuck floor of the senate yesterday talking about negotiations. Udget guest mr. President , we have two weeks until funding for the government runs out. Alongside talks about extending government funding, also been bipartisan erious negotiations on a number of issues that should coincide with deadline. E have to lift spending caps, pass disaster aid, healthcare package. Reach agreement for daca alongside Border Security and of course there is as well. Of 702, those negotiations, though proceeding ave been quite well, four congressional leaders met with representatives from the white house last inside and had encouraging meeting. Following that meeting, the white house issued a series of unreasonable demands entirely oubdz the scope of ongoing negotiations about daca Border Security. It is part of pattern of of this on the part white house during sensitive bipartisan negotiations. Year, the white house has much more frequently rather isruptive force than unifying force. To throw down a lift from the wing of the ne white house is not to throwfortuitous or do. T thing to i hope we can keep on track that we were on because the issues we facing are mounting and a ajor deal requires dedicated bipartisan effort. Host Chuck Schumer yesterday on the senate floor. Senate comes in this morning, as does the house, well take you to the house here as we always do for gavel to gavel coverage when that happens. Then, were asking your viewers to call in and tell us priorities udget amid this potential Government Shutdown, debate over the spending plan continues. Democrats, 2027488000. 2027488001. Independents, 2027488002. Sewaiting rockport, new york, line for independents. Ahead. Go caller hi, yeah. Ant talking a lot about immigration and the budget and i want to talk more about the tax plan. Decrease taxesto for everybody, including going te tax, so that is to increase total amount of money we get each year, annual revenue. Either have to decrease our budget that we spend every year the debt to increase that we take. 20yearoldlf, im a student, sorry, 22yearold economics at my local state university. I ont want anymore debt, dont want my country to take on more debt and i dont think any of the people on some of the programs we have want to cut the programs. So one thing that i think we look at is expanding the tax base and one way to do that imgrants in g legally in a legal method, not coming into the country, pay taxes, y will they will become productive incorporate them into the community and that is the responsibility of american citizens to take on themselves. You think we can expand the tax base incorporate entitlement programs without any cuts . Like to ell, now, id bring up another thing we docked to expand the tax base. Add tariffs, so over in europe, they have taxes to luxury goods, if we did Something Like wealth u see a lot of has been created since the recession, has gone to the top, primary consumers next couple of years here f. We were valueadded tax, we would revenue. Itional tax uts may still need to be made that might need to be taken, but one step in combating this. Host riley, thanks for the call. Virginia, line for democrats. Go that might need to be ahead. Caller good morning. How are you . Host doing well. Go ahead. Caller just a couple quick comments. You know, this, senators and congressmen getting money, medical bills paid, why do we need them when we can problem ntists in each that can probably figure out everything a lot quicker and budget some place economically or responsibly anyway. One more comment, people talking about immigration and everything, we have some congressmen and senators and families came out through ellis island or whatever, should we send all guys back . They are talking about sending everyone back. Make everyone pay taxes. Another gentleman said the military, that is an option. Find something that brings taxes in. I work for a major airline, that just benefited from the tax they will save 150 billion and im an aircraft specialist, they dont want to pay me more to keep the they flying in the sky, say 150 because of the tax just basically what we do to make sure everyone the a fair play, not just rich. Host first comment, who gets to pick the scientist who would our problem . Caller i dont think it would solve all our problems, but is more educated in budget finance, agriculture, that have degrees, they should try to put someone in office to back up what the guys are saying. The guy necessary office arent looking out for us, democrats or independents, no one is looking out for the little guy. Im a little guy, i dont know you are, but we need someone to back up everything that we do, quit putting peep nel where is accountability . Agencys with Scientific Advisory boards, we focus on some stories, debate, environmental he Protection Agency about who gets eated on the Scientific Advisory boards, debate in the past year on that, since resident trump took over and changes hes made since the cientific Advisory Boards from the obama administration. Plenty of stories on that, go to cspan. Org to watch some of the segments focusing on that. Jersey, line for republicans. Nancy, go ahead. Caller hello. Host good morning. Caller good morning. Really atement. It annoys me im listening to you and the democrats, they seem to in going for Illegal Immigrants. Is 24 7 daca coverage, but voted for ocrat americans to get a tax cut. You never hear them talk about raises for ity american seniors, spend billions on illegals, if we could some of it would help our budget, lets give to americans. Want daca, fine, do the 800,000 get it over with, thats it. Build the wall xhshgs in legally. Host nancy, do you think if they allowed those daca they ents to stay, if granted amnesty to those folks it would give incentive for wait for the and next round of amnesty . Caller not say amnest tow them, couple years to get it down the line. What im wait for the next saying, we need to stop it. Line. Become end of the were spending too much money, i dont mind people coming into legally. Ry but we cannot have this continue forever. Going to mocrats are keep losing because the American People are getting tired of hearing this. Spend more time caring about ilLegal Immigration than americans. Out it was really sad and proven didnt get one vote from a democrat on a tax cut. Host nancy, new jersey. Texas, houston, good morning. Caller couple things on immigration. Umber one, we have over 40 or wanting of politicians to put border walls and not one up. On put a border wall it would have been paid for by now. O now were sitting here fighting over putting a border wall up because it should have years ago. 40 and to take care of that border wall, electifiy it. They wont come across if you electrify it. Currently plenty of places there are walls and the u. S. Mexico border. Caller they need to be fixed. You see holes in it. A hole in a wall and they fix it, they will go to and come through there. Fix that. All the way wall border wall up to watchung state. Okay. Host why is that . Caller why . Socialists. Are host okay. Ray, raleigh, north carolina. Go ahead. T, caller how you doing this morning . Host doing well. Quick points. Number one, shut down the border, where the cars come in. Want to do something in this country, put taxicabs, airports, that border along crossing and only search trucks coming into this country. People have to walk across the border. Go to two, these kids chool they asked to go to school. Number three, the prison system, go to prison in america tis blacks, chinese, whatever, everybody has to be separate. Always arguing about how many people work on the farm. We are paying prisoners to sit jail, not doing anything but fighting and building racial ion, but nonviolent everybody talk about the farmers. Hey i have to compete, my prices are going down. Interest in us, us as americans . Time in my life, compete Illegal Immigrants, have their wife work and at work. Thank you. Host for interactive look at u. S. A. Today has this interactive piece on their website. If you can find it at borderwal u. S. Mexico interactive map, look of the u. S. And mexico border. Nonwall h the various fenced area along the border on website. Interactive feature called the wall. Carolina. N north line for north carolina. Bert, go ahead. Caller yes. Make a comment regarding the border wall. Okay. Development of Drone Technology is going to make the border wall null and void in a years. Of would create a situation where people on the keep side that you want to out are going to use Drone Technology to be able to skip wall to observe what the ing on on our side of wall. Nd people trying to keep out, Drone Technology is developing the wall is , so time. Horse and buggy it is about the future and if we want want should be thinking about technology to observe and defend them for. That is just my opinion about it. Border wall to me is going billion and draen technology host you are going in and out, i think we got your point. You ight be interested, if can hear me, in story in New York Times talking about cost wall and the pending on it could curtail more proven security measures, focusing on the experts and concern about the president s focus on the border wall, it might ignore constantly evolving nature of terrorism and traffickingand drug will herd, former cia officer and cocaineman whose 800 miles withdes border territory with mexico say people dealing with this issue a third century solution not fix this longterm. That story in the New York Times. Corinth, in mississippi, line for mississippi. Dennis, talking about your Spending Priorities, what is on your mind . When trump was running for president , he said pay forico was going to the wall. Well now he wants the taxpayers pay for this wall. Most of us arent is ing it and i think it kind of unrealistic in a lot of places. On the news, they cant put a wall there because it is at. It has been working, you know, were going to have this problem anyway. They exactly over one way or the other, so we got to fix it, you know. This wall he promised that they were going to pay, now the people are they want take billions for this wall that we aint asking for for a same anyway. Different ways to go about this, could be done. T is a mess, we got a mess in this country, we need to straighten it out and get rid of lot of the following i cant even think now. Host we got your point, dennis, interested in this border issue and Border Security issue, the conversation doesnt have to end here. When we end the program at can , on cspan. Org, you head to the hearing that well border and , it is aritime Sub Committee of the house Homeland Security. Security. Testifying. Will be again, happening at 10 00 and you can go to the website to that. Also of note today, alex azar confirmation hearing before the Senate Finance committee. ANd Human Services secretary, secretary tloven it on the free cspan radio appresident. Danny in north carolina, republican, danny, go ahead. Caller i want to make a point. You know, i enjoy dave bratts of when of the expense you let when you legalize the cost they d are going to have for years and ears, no rule says they cant apply for benefits and so forth. Hat i fear is that especially libera think s they dont about the all the children and family necessary smaller rural that are desperately trying to lift their kids up for he American Dream and an example, my wife and i, my wife is first one in her family to go to college. Dad was the first one and he did finish and then ive gone on and then tried, my wife and i have worked hard, raised a child who was looking at colleges recently, we have a guy that has worked for us, we work on houses and e hired a carpenter knew he was an illegal. He had his kids. We made friends with them. My child applied to Duke University and found out they of the uota that 50 incoming freshmen were either minorities and my daughter is not of course number, danny . E caller 47 . Out where did you find that number . Caller look online, they advertise that. O to the Duke University website and they advertise that under admissions. Our he illegal guy who is friend, whose son tried to apply got a scholarship for illegal to go to school at davidson and got usheredin. Look at the dichotomy between malltown people trying hard for the American Dream. Are we not putting sometimes immigrants a step up above people that are home grown ahead . To get host that is dan necharlotte, north carolina. On the found that part duke website yet, ill keep looking. Washington, erdine, line for independents, go ahead. Caller thank you for cspan. Tired of the bickering, i just want to go door, o the senate next shake hands, say hey, we made a over. E, lets start both programs, there is orporate welfare, as well as immigration welfare. As you know, there is as far the wall, you know, some of the reason, are walls for a they are for the elite only. Are you build a wall, you just out people different folks. Biggering d of the and if we could start over, there is nothing we can do about but we can become hey, tisan and we can say, and try mistake or i to fix all the problems, all we about that nobody is out there trying to fix the problems. Corporate st as much welfare as there is entitlement welfare. Ones ople that deserve it hat actually work or give to their community or try to make a better place, re the ones that need to be looked upon as i dont know, just at that m point. Ost okay, to bill, in leland, mississippi, line for democrats. House getting ready to come in. May need to cut you off if they come in. Caller i just want to say, in this one race country that has been killed by police, that has been targeted f. B. I. And c. I. A. For drugs and to kill their leaders built this country with the host bill, we have to end there for the day. Is coming in, gavelling in now, we take you there for a live coverage and here tomorrowback morning at 7 a. M. Eastern, four a. M. Pacific. January 9, 2018. I hereby appoint the honorable roger w. Marshall to act as speaker pro tempore on this day. Signed, paul d. Ryan, speaker of the house of representatives. The speaker pro tempore pursuant to the order of the house of january 8, 2018, the chair will now recognize members from lists submitted by the majority and minority leaders for morning hour debate. The chair will alternate recognition between the parties. All time shall be equally allocated between the partie
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