Transcripts For CSPAN QA Daryl Davis 20171120

Played a song that invented a genre of music. Chuck berry did that. We would not have rock n roll without chuck berry. Chuck berry,heard i fell in love with that music and when i first saw him, i changed my career trajectory. I was going to be a computer programmer. Or an espionage agent. Each one was pulling at me with equal force. And i wasbilized trying to figure out how to do both. Back then there was no way. Today you can through cyber espionage. Andw chuck berry as a kid said, that is what i want to do. When it was was that chuck berry and Elvis Presley had made millions upon millions of people happy with their music. They touched them without even knowing them. That fascinated me. I thought, i want to be able to bring joy to people weathering beat them or not. Host what was the story of your first meeting with him . Daryl he came to the university of maryland. It was going to be chuck berry and jerry lee lewis. I got there early, hoping i would be able to sneak in and meet him during rehearsal. The concert would not begin until 8 00 and i got a ride down noon. Around the doors were open, people were bringing in equipment and speakers. I walked in. Nobody stopped me. There was no security there at that time. Stayedst hung out and out of everybodys way. The band came and i moved over toward the stage, thinking that when he came for the sound check, i would be able to meet my idol. The band was very nervous. They were down from new jersey to play with him. He sound check was at 2 00 they assumed he would be there around 2 00. 2 00 came and there was no chuck berry and they got more nervous. So they did the sound check and ran through some songs and sounded fantastic. Hours went by, still no chuck berry. They went on at the beginning of the show and did a short set. Then jerry lewis came and i got to meet him. They came on the stage, still no chuck berry. 15 minutes before jerry finished, in walked chuck berry. He came in by himself. He walked right by me. I froze. It was a total shock. He went right by me and there was somebody standing by down the hallway. He stopped and spoke with that person. That person pointed further down the hallway to a door. Chuck went inside the door. A few minutes later he came back out, walked by me again, back outside the backstage door and then returned with his guitar. What happened was he went down to the promoters office to get paid up front, then he went and got his car. Guitarnot bring his until he had money. , the bandleader walked up to him. Hi, my name is Bruce Springsteen, we are your backup band, we thought you were going to be here this afternoon. Just totally oblivious. We ran through some of your songs, which ones are you going to play tonight . Said, i think i will place him chuck berry. He went on stage and went right into it. Nothing caps off, nothing. Count off and the band was right with them. 1972 or 1973. I was 15. Host had anybody heard of verse springsteen had anybody heard of Bruce Springsteen . Daryl no. Nobody outside of new jersey. The name did not mean anything to me. I want to show some video from 1997. If people look closely, they will see you at the piano. Lets watch this clip. Host how did you end up on the stage . Daryl that is a funny story. Late night with David Letterman and i knew chuck was going to be on there. I called him and said, can i, too new york and hang out with you . Can i come up to new york and hang out with you . He said sure. In and said chuck berry was not here yet but i could go to his dressing room or his waiting room. Oh i went to his waiting room. Who were going to be on the show were there. Room and to the green eventually became. We were just sitting there and then this producer walks in. He said, i have you slated to do music with Paul Schaefer on the piano. Said, this is my piano player. This is my piano player, darrell davis. Give him your Social Security number so you can get paid. Social and shey was all flustered. Withaid, ok, i will talk Paul Schaefer. Chuck berry said, i am going to play let it rock. Said, we have been rehearsing another song. Chuck said, i am going to do let it rock. So i went down there and there was Paul Schaefer. He is not only one of the most talented musicians in the country, and underrated, the guy is a genius. Also one oft, he is the nicest. He had no problem with it whatsoever. I rehearsed the band on let it rock. He invited me to play with the band for the show. Talk we do not normally music on this show. There is more to the story. But i want to go back to how did you develop a relationship with chuck very chuck berry. People like chuck berry and buddy holly and Elvis Presley, these people were the pioneers of rock n roll. Back in the day, prior to rock n roll, musicals and concert venues were segregated, if they allowed black people in at all. There were signs hanging that would say, colored seating only. The jim crow law was still in effect in the 1950s. If you and i are going to go see sinatra in the 1940s, we could not sit together area we would have to sit in designated sections. But then there was the infection andnvention of rock n roll the popularization of it. When white kids and black kids , they couldw rhythm not it still. They bounced out of their chairs and the next thing you know a for thecing together first time in the history of this country. Brought whitel and black youth together through music. Things that activists were trying to achieve through their marches and demonstrations and boycotts. In efforts to bring white and black adults together, chuck berry and elvis were achieving this through music. That attracted me. Host how long have you been a musician . Daryl since i graduated from harvard in 1980. , i i was playing before that was a late bloomer when it came to music. I started when i was in high school. Host i want to jump out of context. There is a new documentary about you on netflix called accidental courtesy. Clip and then he will ask you to fill in the blanks. A him. Is all wizard. An empirial wizard. If you look along the white and thehe black line forma gonal lines for ak k. It stands for knights of the ku klux klan. Is, this is a it part of american history. Do not burn our history, regardless. Is as american as apple pie. A book came out in 1997 ndestinela relationships. I went around the country interviewing leaders and members. When i was a kid i had a racist incident. People through rocks and bottles at me. I did not understand why i was a target. Then when racism was explained to me, i could not accept it. I could not get my head around the idea that someone who had never spoken to me and knew nothing about me would want to hurt me for no other reason than the color of my skin. I formed the question at the age of 10, how can you hate me when you do not even know me . I sought that answer for the next 49 years. I have bought books on white and black supremacy. Looking for the answer in the books and i could not find it. Figured, whot, i better to ask again someone who would join and organization that to believe that someone else is inferior who does not look like them . So i decided i would seek out membersbers and kkk and ask. So the book came out. But this was the first book by a black author on the ku klux klan. Different producers of documentaries began contacting me, wanting to do a documentary on the book. So we decided on these particular producers and this was the product of which you just showed a clip. Memberho was the first of the kkk that you met and how did you do it . Daryl the first one i met was in nevada it was a negative encounter. But the first one i sat down to interview was the leader of the kkk in maryland. Dragon. Nown as a grand he oversaw the entire state. Overseesnal guy who all of the states is known as empirial wizard. To ant from grand dragon imperial wizard. That is who i met. His name was roger kelly. I acquired his phone number. The person who gave it to meet warned me not to fall with roger kelly. I wanted to sit down with him and talk with him. But i wanted to make it so i did not jinx myself. I had my secretary call him. Called him he might tell for my voice that i am black. The process would have ended before it started. So i knew it might secretary called him, he would automatically know in her voice that it was a white lady. He would not automatically assume that a white woman was working for a black man, especially a black man who was writing a book on the kkk. So she called him. I had told her, do not tell him that i am black and less he asks. If he asks, do not lie to him. When he sees me he can make up his mind whether he wants to talk to me a lot. If i am going to meet him i wanted it to be spontaneous. If he agreed knowing i was black, i did not want him to have different answers for a white interviewer than for a black interviewer. She called and spoke with him and he agreed to meet with me and that is when he saw the color i was. We had set up for a motel room. When he showed up we were already in the rim. I had a bucket of ice with soda there and i offered him a beverage. E showed up with his bodyguard in firstdyguard walked and was wearing military camouflage. Kkk on histials chest. He had a semi automatic handgun. Kelly followed by roger in a dark blue suit and tie. When the bodyguard entered the room and turned the corner and saw me, he froze. Mr. Kelly walked into his back. He regained his balance and looked around the room. I know what they were thinking. Clerk gave them the wrong number were this was a set up. So i went like this to display that there was nothing in my hands. I stood up and approached them and said come on in. And shook myme hand. I thought, so far so good. I asked him to have a seat. He sat down and asked me for id and i gave it to him. Then we proceeded with the interview. Bagd a bad beside me a inside me and inside i had a bible. The kkk says the bible preaches racial separation. In my reading i have never seen that. So i wanted to be able to pull up my bible and say, please show me the chapter and verse. A cassette player to record my interview. We began talking. That i wasnow inferior because i was black. He said black people have smaller brains and we are basically inclined to be lazy and uneducated. All of the stereotypes. Host what was the physical reaction to that . Daryl it was interesting, he was wearing a suit and tie. I know who i am and i am confident in who i am. So that was not going to throw me. I was expecting stuff like that. I had read all of these books on the kkk already and do the mentality. And i knew the mentality. Host what happened to that relationship . We became friends eventually. We hung out and went to dinner. Over time. There was an incident that happened in the room that was a teaching moment. I will not say it was a learning moment. Down tome i would reach , theout the bible bodyguards would reach up for the god because he did not would reach up for the gun because he did not know what was in the back. Eventually he relaxed. A little later in the interview there was a strange noise in the room and we all jumped. And i knew that mr. Kelly had made the noise because i did not make it. I perceived the noise to the ominous and threatening and i could hear a voice in my head. I was ready to attack. Eyes. S locked with his his have locked with mine. I could read the expression in his eyes which was saying, what did you just do . And the bodyguard was looking back and forth between the two of us. Leftcretary was to my sitting on top of the dresser. She realized what had happened. The ice in the bucket had melted and the cans of soda had shifted and that is what had made the noise. We all began laughing at how ignorant we had been. Entityause some foreign of which we were ignorant, the bucket of ice, entered into our comfort zone via the noise it made. We have become a qs authority of one another. So the Lesson Learned was ignorance breeds fear. If you do not keep the fear in check, it will breed hatred. If you do not keep hatred in check, hatred will breed destruction. Can we buy the documentary if we do not have netflix . Daryl yes. You can buy it on itunes. Host here is somebody who kicked back at you from your own race. Lets watch. I believe you believe the wrong people can change. You are going to their houses. White supremacists cannot change. You are not doing anything. You are nothing but ignorant. Host who was that it where was it done . Daryl that guy is my friends now and he is part of black lives matter. That was done about a year ago in baltimore. Another gentleman who was there, we had dinner together. About a month ago. All of the differences have been resolved. Aware of what i do and how i do it. He had received that information. Prior to that scene, i had met him outside the bar where that interview took place. The first thing he said to be , i understand you are the first black member of the kkk. So that right there was his mindset. Of course if they were black members of the kkk, it would not be the kkk. He had that information and was acting upon that without getting the back story. Now that we have gotten together and talked, we are friends and we have agreed to Work Together to fight the disease of racism. Host what kind of family did you grow up in . Daryl i spent a lot of time overseas in various countries, my parents were foreign service. I was an american and busy brats American Embassy brat. I have been in 53 Different Countries in six continents. Host what difference do you think it made for you that you saw other worlds . Daryl it made a world of difference. I was exposed early on to many different cultures and nationalities and traditions. All of that helped shape who i have become. I saw people from all over the world getting along with each other. When i was in grade school , when i was a kid in the 1960s, my classes were filled from were filled with kids from all over. Well went to the same school. That is how i grew up. If you were to look in my classroom, you would say it looked like a United Nations of little kids. That scenario was not the case in the u. S. When i returned i would be in a newly integrated or still segregated school. Today, when you walk into a school caster school classroom, you see what i saw. Host more from accidental courtesy, this is a discussion you have with a man named robert white. He went on to become a good friend of mine. Why would you go to his wedding if you do not believe in the mixing of races . There if he wants me there just because it is daryl davis. This is his jacket, Baltimore City Police Officer. Host where is he today . In 2007. Passed away he was in prison when i first contacted him. I wanted to interview him for my book. Correspondence, he did not know i was black. E was vehemently racist a very vicious and violent man. Shortly before he got out of prison, he found out i was black. He people check me out and report back. He was upset i had not informed him of the color of my skin. I said, what difference does it make . When we get out and get together. Is the truth different when you talk to a white person or a black person . He agreed, so we got together. As i said, he was very angry, violent, hateful, but we kept getting together time and again, and he began to see me as a human being. Over time he began to shed that ideology. To another point of my growing up and traveling to different places and being exposed to these things, one of my very isorite quotes of all time by mark twain, the travel quote. Travel is tos prejudice, bigotry, and narrowmindedness and many of our people need a story on these accounts. Charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one Little Corner of the earth all ones lifetime. Host who was the fellow sitting at the table with you in that video . Daryl a former Baltimore City Police Officer. The Baltimore City Police Department has been saturated with racist Police Officers and ku klux klan members, such as bobwhite, and other ones he has told me about. Host how big is the ku klux klan today . Daryl no one really knows for sure. The mentality is certainly very large. In terms of just the klan itself, members as opposed to every White Supremacism in different organizations, i think lawadl and Southern Poverty Center estimate between 5000 and 8000 members. Host if you go back to the early 1920s, the numbers are 4 million . Daryl 3 million alone in indiana. Host over the years, less and less of the ku klux klan. Why is it lessened why has it lessened . Daryl because people evolve. They begin to appreciate one another when they come in contact with one another. It has its ebbs and flows. It rises and falls, rises and falls. A lot of people, while they want to be they dont want to be associated lets say with blacks and jews, they dont also want to be associated with the violence that the klan brings, either for moral or legal reasons. So they will drop out and join some other racist group, like the white citizens council, which is more political. They put people in positions of leadership in order to institutionalize those racist beliefs. Host did you ask anybody to let you go to a meeting of the kkk . Daryl absolutely. I was invited to meetings. I would go to meetings and klan rallies and document them for my book. Ago,ct, just over a month the tennessee and kentucky chapters of the klan invited me down there to come to one of their meetings and speak to them. Host did you . Daryl i absolutely did. Host what did you tell them . Daryl i told them a lot. What i felt about what happened recently in charlottesville and some other things that i felt their perspectives were skewed. They listened. , andi did a q a at the end then we all went out and had lunch together. Host you mentioned earlier that your first meeting with a member of the kkk was violent. Can you tell us that story . Daryl i had just finished a gig , a musical performance. I was going across this parking lot to get something to eat at this allnight restaurant, greasy spoon or whatever. As i pulled into my parking space, i saw a man straddled across the woman on the sidewalk. He was sitting on her and banging her head into the sidewalk and hitting her in the face. I was shocked. I pulled into my space and i was going to go over there and pull him off. He was oblivious to me, just going at it. I called in two spaces away. When i got out and close my door, he jumped up and looked at me. He said, what are you looking at, nigger . I said, im looking at you. He got off of her and attacked me and i had to put him down. I had to hurt him and put him down. People were standing around watching this and doing nothing about it, nothing. They did not call the police. These were white people, watching this white man beat up this white woman. They did not call the police until this black man beat up the white guy. Then they called the police. These two officers came, and something was very strange. They would not arrest the guy. I wanted him arrested for assault. They would not arrest him. They told him, however, to leave the premises, and if he were to set foot back on the property within 24 hours, he would be arrested for trespassing. I said, i want him arrested now. But he left. They said, you have to fill out a warrant or whatever else at the Police Station. I said, ok. I went inside, got some ice for this lady, applied it to her head. I said, im going to have him arrested, not only for assaulting me, but what he did to you. I am happy to come to court if you want to press charges against him. Would you be willing to testify on my behalf . She said yes, she gave me her phone number and address. I helped her fixup her head. I went down to the Police Station. The commissioner gave me this thing to fill out. Im filling out my complaint. I asked him, i said these were county cops who came to respond. How longim, i said will it take before this guy is served . I made the police give me his information, which they did. The commissioner said, it goes from here to the sheriffs and they dispatch a deputy, maybe three days. I said, ok. I am filling it out and in walks the guy, the guy i beat up. He walks into the Police Station with two state Police Officers on either side of him, and he is in handcuffs. I said, thats him right there. The commissioner said, sign it and i will serve him right now. So i signed it, the commissioner , and walkeded it up and stuck it between the guys arms, because he was handcuffed like this. I found out later on what happened was this. When the two county cops left, because he left first because they told him to leave, he came back looking for me to finish the fight. I was not there, i was at the Police Station. He goes inside the restaurant and picks a fight with some other black guy. So this time, the state police responded. They were having none of that and they locked him up. Host what happens to them eventually . Daryl what i come to find out is from this woman, she was his ex fiance. She had left him because he was seeing somebody else, who he had gotten pregnant. He was like, if i cant have you, nobody will. So she tells me that he is a highranking official in the county Fire Department and a member of the ku klux klan. So i beat up a klansmen, a fireman, which explained to me why the two county Police Officers did not arrest him. They knew each other. Host should i assume you did not become friends with this klansman . Daryl yes, you can assume that. Host back to your relationship with a man named frank. Lets watch this. [video clip] in our constitution says we want to maintain White Supremacy in america. Together,s dont fly but they dont mix together. That is one of the reasons we should have our own nations. When it comes to race, everybody thinks the klan are haters. Dont you have churches that only cater to blacks . Yet, because we could not get into the white churches. Klansmen, forward march. Right face. Oh my god, oh my god. For my country. For my country. For my klan. Host how much do they really believe in that kind of ceremony . Daryl a lot of them do believe that really heavily. They are inundated with the ceremony. It makes them feel like they belong to something, it is a fraternity. Not a fraternity that uri would join, but fraternity that you or i would join, but each one has the others back. They strongly believe in that. Host you brought some of your possessions with you. Daryl i did. Host hold that up, if you would, so we can see what it is. You did explain that earlier. How did you get all of that . Daryl this is a grand dragons rope. Robe. Grand dragons you have a choice of a white cotton robe with green stripes, a green cape, and a green sash. This is the blood drop emblem. Here you have the dragon patch, signifying his rank. Under the cape, you see another dragon patch. Have a full green sand robe. Again, that is personal choice, cotton or satin. If it is cotton, it would be white with different color endorsements. If it is satin, the whole thing would be that color. Host did you buy those . Daryl they were given to me by active klan members who left the organization. Host what is the next one . Daryl the robe of an imperial wizard, the top guy. Blue or purple, your choice, designates the imperial level. This is a white cotton robe with blue and ornaments. Host can you buy them of those online . ,aryl i dont know, i doubt it unless somebody is selling one who has one. Host what is the last one, the green one . Isyl this green one here another grand dragons robe. White,e belonged to bob the gentleman we were talking about in the accidental courtesy clip you showed, the Baltimore Police officer. He was in prison for four years for conspiring to bomb a synagogue in baltimore. Host as a Police Officer . Daryl as a Police Officer. He was forced to resign from the Police Department because he was bringing embarrassment to them. They knew who he was and what he was doing, but as long as he did not bring any repercussions to them, they turned a blind eye to it. There were others on that force. Here is his robe. , so aferred the satin full green satin robe. No difference between that one and the con one. Here is his Baltimore City police uniform. Host how long ago was he a policeman . Daryl this was back in the 1970s. Host where is he now . Daryl he is deceased now. Host i want to go back to frank ancona. I want to show you some video from cbs news this year in february, then talk about this gentleman. [video clip] in missouri, a ku klux klan leader a shot and killed in his bedroom, and Officials Say his own family was behind it. Frank anconas body was found saturday about 20 miles from his home. He had been shot in the head. Prosecutors say his klan membership was not a factor, but the motive was personal. They say frank ancona told his wife he wanted a divorce. Melissa and her son paul are charged with firstdegree murder , tampering with evidence, and abandonment of a corpse. Investigators say paul was the one that pulled the trigger and melissa help clean up. Both are being held without bail. Host how good a friend had he become of yours . Daryl a very, very good friend. I had been in his home several times. I knew his wife, melissa. Host what happened to her after all this . Daryl she is in jail right now. She is blaming the sun and the sun is blaming her. In fact, frank ancona and i were such good friends i would say, if he were still alive, within a years time he would have been out of the klan and he would have given me his robe. , but ii do own his robe will get to that in a second. I knew what had happened to my friend frank ancona before the police did. Host why . Daryl i was sitting at a friend of mines house going through some video. He is a video editor. Midnightall just after , and it was from a klansmen. He said, daryl, i believe frank has gone missing. I said, what do you mean . He said frank had not gone to work, was not home. He thought there was something odd going on. Because frank and melissa were kind of at odds. Frank loved his wife, i can tell you that. He genuinely loved his wife. He was a career, he would he was a courier, he would drive across the state delivering things. A lot of times he would call me in his car to check on me or for me to keep him company while he was driving. I knew he loved her, but he was having a lot of issues with her because she was an opioid addict and a methamphetamine addict. So he was considering leaving her. Anyway, this guy tells me he thinks melissa had something to do with it. I said, maybe he just went somewhere just to cool down or whatever. He says, i dont think so. He dug further because he said he had talked to melissa and her story was not adding up, she kept being ambiguous. He said he would talk to her some more. He called me back around 4 00 in the morning and told me, frank is dead. He had talked to the wife and she told him what happened and what had gone on. She confessed to him and he told me. This was before it was not until maybe three days later that the police found out what happened. Host just listening to you talk here in the last 45 minutes, you get the impression that every time you common contact with the klan member, you become friends. Daryl not every time. Host tell me what happens when you dont become friends. Daryl you dont become friends. Host what is the dialogue back and forth, have you know you are not getting through . Daryl you have people who are ignorant and people who are stupid. We all are ignorant to a certain degree, because we dont know everything. But an ignorant person is someone who can learn. You give me the facts, you give me the proper information, you have alleviated my ignorance and i can apply that to make the right decision or a good choice. But if i am stupid, i have the facts but i still make the wrong choice. So i am well aware that there are people who will go to their graves being hateful, violent, and racist. There is no changing them whatsoever. I have met some of those people. They are very dangerous people and they are unchangeable. Most of them are dangerous, i wont say all of them are. There is so skewed, no amount of , nos they are so skewed amount of fats will change their beliefs. Host do you have a family . Daryl i have a wife. Stepchildren, but they are grown. Host where do you live now . Daryl silver spring, maryland. Host how much of your life is spent on this versus your jazz piano work . Daryl rock n roll, jazz, blues, country. I would say between 50 50 and 60 40. Host what has happened with all the publicity . What impact has been had on you . Daryl it is interesting because i have been doing this for 30 years. When i first started doing this, people thought, you are crazy. I was called a kook and this, that, and the other, and im going to get myself killed. Even some people began shunning me. Host black folks are white folks . Daryl both. They thought i had gone off my rocker or something. Today some of these same people are calling me up and saying, daryl, what do we do . You know these people, what do we do . Because racism has become so emboldened today. Now people are beginning to take notice of it, whereby before either they were in denial or living in their bubble, it was not affecting them. Now it is out there in your face and they dont know what to do, so they go to somebody who has been embedded with it for a while. Host President Trump calls you up and says, comes the oval office. You get an hour with him. What would you start telling him about this issue, and what would you like to tell him from what you have seen over the last couple years in the political world . ,aryl i would absolutely go and i would be very happy to sit down with President Trump and go over this. I would ask him to give me a position, paid or unpaid, to help resolve many of the racial issues in this country. Personally, i believe president is this is my belief one of the best things that has happened to this country, because all of this stuff is now coming up to the surface. I am saying that was his plan or his design. But as the result of his presidency, all of this stuff is coming up, where before there was a taboo on talking about racism. Dont talk about that, put it under the carpet, not politically correct. Now we are having to address it, it is in our face. But i have always seen it, it was never hidden from me. But people are going about it the wrong way to resolve it. People are talking about each other were talking at each other. I sit down and talk with each other. That is what results in my getting these kinds of things. I never set out to convert anybody. I set out to listen to them explain their points of view, what they fear, what they think. Then im able to share mine. That is the impetus for them to think, and oftentimes they reconsider that ideology. See how much racism do you in your professional life when you are playing the piano . Daryl i see it from time to time. Host how, what do you see . Daryl for example, the moose lodge. The moose lodge was a very racist organization in this country. Their bylaws for a big black people to be in the moose lodge their bylaws for bid black people to be in the moose lodge. I was playing one time and was not allowed to come. They told the band they had to bring a white piano player. They said no, where we go, daryl goes. So the moose lodge rented land outside facility so i could play. Today the moose lodge is integrated. A black person was brought by a white member to be a guest, and they refused entrance, so the black person sued the moose lodge in federal court. The federal judge said, if you dont change that law, i will shut down every moose lodge in the country. Host let me ask you this you are a black person and the moose lodge had the rules, why would you want to go there . Why would you want to be involved with people that would accept that kind of thing in their bylaws . Daryl the moose lodge doesnt make me or break me. I am there to play music. Host i dont mean you, im talking about the fellow that suit them. Why would he even care about being a member . Daryl because this is our country, and we all should be treated equally. That is the whole thing with the flag in the pledge of allegiance. , underion, indivisible god, with liberty and justice for all. No, there is not liberty and justice for all. Our society is going to be one of two things. It is going to be what we make it or what we let it become. I would rather make it equitable for everybody. Host you had a conversation from accidental courtesy with. Guy named jeff National Socialist movement commander. I just want to go back to the way we started and listen to this conversation. You men and women that are here today, if we are going to take back the station we have to stand in solidarity. What kind of music do you like . All kinds, rock, hardcore, rock against communism. Daryl do you realize rock was invented by black musicians . We are not going to go daryl yes we are, we are going there. Who invented rock then . Elvis presley. Daryl you are not being serious, right . Host what was that conversation like . Daryl very cordial, very good. We exchanged phone numbers. Jeff is a hardcore racist and supremacist. Host still . Daryl yes. Host why does he think that rock n roll music started with Elvis Presley . Did you ever get through to that . Daryl he knows where rob started but he cannot bring himself to admit that he likes something that was invented by black people. Continued thatu clip, i pointed out to him that chuck berry invented rock and roll and Elvis Presley popularized it. I came down on him for not accepting black inventions. Then he said that he likes peanut butter, and black people invented peanut butter. I said, who was it . He named George Washington carver. Host you have all this paraphernalia. How many of these roads you have at home . Daryl i only keep a couple at home. I keep a lot of them locked up offsite. I would guess i got three recently. I would guess i have between 4244. Host how do you get them . Is the decision made you are going to like each other and the guy says, im getting out of the klan and giving it to you . Daryl the first time i got one, the guy was going to get rid of it. He put it in a trash bag and was going to throw it in a dumpster. I said, let me have it. Why would you want it . I said, i just wanted. I did not know why i wanted it, but i wanted it. So i got it that way. Others, when they decided to leave, i said, what are you going to do with your stuff . They are like, i dont know, get rid of it. I said, can i have it . Now i have got people who know klan peoples who have heard about me or whatever, read articles, see me on tv, they bes. I have these ro so they say, would you like my robe . Host do you get invited to speak to the general public . Daryl i do a lot of speaking all over the country and abroad. Host what has been the impact of this documentary on netflix, accidental courtesy . Host on the country were netflix . Daryl on you. I think it has increased to speaking opportunities because people are concerned and need to address this issue they are confronted with, especially since charlottesville. Host if somebody wants to hear you play the piano, how they find out where to go . Daryl they go to my website, daryldavis. Com. There they can find my schedule, my performance schedule, as well as my speaking schedule or appearances on media. Host are you going to write another book . Daryl im updating the old book, klandestine relationships, because the book came out in the late 1990s and many things have happened since then. We have had a black president. We have had an increase in immigration, legal and illegal. All of that has fueled the white right of that mentality. So i want to update the book. Some of the people in there have passed, some are still around. Update people on that as well as tell you stories. Host of all the publicity over the years, which one got you the most visibility and reaction . Daryl that is really hard to sit hard to say. I have had a lot of great ones. For example, there is the nat geo thing showing pretty soon with morgan freeman, who interviewed me. That is sure to generate a lot of publicity. , and im sure cspan with brian lamb would generate a lot of publicity. Host i doubt it. Were out of time. We are going to leave this by showing 30 seconds of you playing the 88s. 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Next, british Prime Minister theresa may takes questions from members of the house of commons. Then, a discussion on some of the issues that could define the 2018 campaign. After that, another chance to see q a with daryl davis, talking about his book cland estine relationships, on his conversations with members of the kkk. Primewednesday, british minister theresa may took questions from members of the common house of commons on funding for health care, police, fire safety, as well as ongoing negotiations for the uks planned exit from the european union. This is just over 45 minutes. Order. Questions to the Prime Minister. Prime minister. Thank you, mr. Speaker. I am sure members across the whole will join me in congratulating her majesty the queen and Prince Philip on their upcoming platinum wedding anniversary. [applause] they have devoted their lives to the service of our country, and i know the whole house will