National Governors Association take dct pattison and calls from viewers. Host good morning. It is thursday, september 14. Cspan is unveiling a brandnew bus to coincide with our capitals tour, a 14 month long tour taking the bus to each state capital in the lead up to the 25th anniversary november. As the bus journey some place to place, it will be featured on washington journal. First up, dover, delaware, tomorrow, where the governor joins us at 9 30 a. M. We will give you a tour of the new bus and talk more about the 50 state tour later on in the program. Houseile at the white last night, democrat leader Chuck Schumer and nancy pelosi said the president agreed to quickly pass a deal to protect undocumented youth. But this morning the present tweeting out, there is no deal. We will give you more deals coming up on washington journal. But we want to spend the first hour getting your reaction to the idea of singlepayer health care. Senator sanders along with democrats yesterday unveiled his proposal for medicaid for all. Do you support or oppose the idea . 7488000 is your line if you agree with singlepayer health care. If you oppose, 7488001. Also, send us a tweet or go to facebook. Com cspan. In. T dialing lets listen to senator sanders yesterday. This is what he had to say about this idea of medicare for all. The strength of a medicare for all program are not only its universality and is costeffectiveness. It also ends the complexity of the system which adds enormous stress at a time when people need it the least. Thoseday, we say to families in vermont and wisconsin and california and all across this country who are spending 10,000, 15,000, 20,000 a year on Health Insurance that we understand that this is insane and un affordable. To be spending that much money simply to protect the wellbeing of your families. And we are here to tell those families, the people all across this country, that under medicare for all the average American Family will be much better off financially than under the Current System because you will no longer be writing checks to private Insurance Companies. Host that was the vermont independent senator Bernie Sanders, and the former president ial candidate on capitol hill yesterday. He had democrat standing behind him. The Washington Times headline says Sanders Health care bill attracts democrats with 2020 goals. What do you think think about this idea of singlepayer . We want to get your thoughts on it this morning. That article says that sanders hroughan hasnt been run t budget projections but the similar plan he outlined during the campaign was scored by the center for responsible budget. That estimated it would cost 25 trillion and at 16 trillion to the debt without an offset. Npr put together an article online. Whats in senator sanders plan . Sanders plan is a singlepayer plan, they say, that means the government will be the singlepayer on henne health expenses. Right now there are lots of payers in the United StatesHealth Care SystemInsurance Companies, the federal government and states and so on. Medicare for all, not quite. Hands more of the slogan than reality as his plan would greatly expand medicare and overhaul it. For example, it would greatly expand the tub of coverage offered. Also, eliminate deductibles and copays and premium. Private Insurance Companies are part of the medicare system. That would not be the case under sanders plan. Sanders plan would also extend insurance to all americans immediately rather than rather it would not extend insurance to all americans meekly. It would do it over four years. The h would move to 55 and that would move to 45 and 35. And so finally in the fourth year, everyone would be covered. It covers all sorts of things. The proposal is generous that goes well beyond what medicare covers and even well beyond what peoples plans would cover pretty recover dental and vision care which are not covered by medicare. Lets go to alex in frederick, maryland. You support this idea of singlepayer. Good morning. When people in the medical industry, when he care medicare, we know our bills be paid we know we that we can treat that patient. It is not going to be a complicated fight with their Insurance Company trying to get that patient to be able to pay their bill. And we just go ahead with carrie and we focus more on the patient than on the money side of things and that is why i support this idea because medicare for all is what we need as a country. To be able to actually stand among the countries of the world of the first world and say we are part of the 21st century. Host what about getting less from medicare than you do from traditional Insurance Companies . Caller i think that is all right. I think that not everybody can afford what, what do you say, the cadillac insurance plan. Honestly, not Everybody Needs it. What we need is we need justice and we need to be able to give care to everybody in our country and then, as practitioners, focus more on the care itself, on the patient and less on figuring out who is going to pay for it and how so much of what we do is involved around that. Maybecan fix that, then we can move on to fixing the other promise of health care such as Liability Insurance and all of those issues. Host alex in frederick, maryland. On the line who supports this idea as well. Good morning. Caller good morning. Thank you for taking my call. I definitely support singlepayer. Ive supported that for a long, long time. And another suggestion i have along with a singlepayer would should open up a number of doctors that can get be graduatedthe and put into service at our country, because along with the singlepayer, we dont have enough medical staff. I know that for decades, there was a limit on how many doctors many were take, how able to get graduated to doctors programs. Texas. Julie in tyler, you opposed singlepayer. Tell us why. Get theany time you government involved, i have been in business for two years. Im a diagnostic testing facility, ultrasounds. And every single time i have gone months without getting paid by medicare, whenever the government had to shut down. The sequester. Its hard as a Small Business to be able to deal with medicare. And the paperwork. I had to fill out 90 pages just to be certified through medicare. And i havent started the process of precertification for medicaid. Its ridiculous. Its going to, whos going to pay for this . Well all are. Our taxes are going to go up. He has this great plan but who is going to pay for it . We all are. Oh, it sounds good on paper, but right now, also, the American People are paying for all these thele who dont work,k, and hardworking people are the ones who suffer the most. Right now host julie in texas. Back to the npr article prepayment is unclear. The plan that covers all americans will require more revenue. There is no exact plan how to pay for sanders bill but he did on wednesday release a list of payment options. Proposal, 7. 5 payroll tax on employers, a 4 individual income tax and an array of taxes on wealthier americans as well as corporations. In addition sanders plans as the end of big Health Insurance related tax expenditures like employers ability to deduct insurance premiums would save trillions of dollars. Thoseen with all of potential revenue boosters, sanders may still fall far short of the total amount of money needed to pay for his ambitious program. Altogether, estimates of how much money has funding mechanism would generate totals up to 16 trillion over 10 years. What problems would itself . Npr says, reduce the number of an insured . Duh. Out of pocket spending, up or down. This would most likely vary from person to person. Down . Care costs up or it is hard to answer this one is some aspects of this plan would push costs down while others would push it up, according to npr. The politics of this, though. This will not pass, says npr. And sanders knows it. The whole thing is more about political framing. Getting democrats to a point that this be a top priority whenever the party is back in power. For you democrats, do you agree . Should this be a top priority . And republicans, do you think it is so, as well . Jesse. E, maryland, hi, caller i think it is a fantastic idea. If you need money to pay for it, stop fighting so many wars. Iuse that money. Hnost why do you like the idea of singlepayer . Caller people are asked to get help all they need to worry about is getting well. Host all right. Maryland. Brook park, ohio. Marilynn. Caller i completely supported. This country needs to tighten up and spending on health care. It is the most inflation item we have in our budget, and to me, why are we spending, throwing money away on the military which is more waste and programs, that are not doing this country and that when health care stabilizes the economy, stabilizes the health of people so they can work and keeps the cost basically regular. We can keep these doctors out of the pockets of the politicians and the medical community and we can keep these costs regulated. That is what they should be about, and people should totally support it. As was said in that recent, the sanders, he isie saying, nobody deserves to be bankrupt. And that is what people should be talking about counseling. Nobody wants to get sick and know they are going to lose her house or before close on just be foreclosed on because of the severe illness. We should stand united on this both democrats and republicans. I cant understand anybody who would not be united on this. Host you oppose it in groton, new york. Good morning. Caller good morning. Thank you for taking my call. The reason why am opposed to it is because im a dairy farmer in new york. The government has got the nose in farming, and they have pretty much ruined farming in the state, in this country because there is way too much milk. And its just going to add to the debt. Host you dont trust washington to handle universal health care . Caller no, i do not. I figure you wind up waiting a long time getting medical care. Then you got all the illegals coming from mexico and other country. And there is going to be [static] how are . We going to pay for all this we are 20 trillion in the hole right now. About the you think republican proposal put forth by Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and bill cassidy of louisiana. This is from the New York Times. Heading in the other direction were several republican senators led by senators graham and kathy who would take money spent under the afford will care act and give it to states in the form of block grants. Their proposal was the last ga of a republican last gasp. Those efforts that seems sure of success appear to meet a dead end on the senate floor in late july. When republicans cannot muster even a simple majority for repeal. Proposal,at under the money would be distributed to states based on a complex form look. The regional costofliving would be one factor but the higher spending states like massachusetts would receive less than under current law. The bloc grants everyplace federal money now being spent under the Affordable Care act the expansion of medicaid and tax credits and for subsidies that reimburse insurers for reducing outofpocket costs for lowincome people. The bill would repeal the Affordable Care act requirements for most americans to have coverage and for larger employers to offer it and make deep cuts to medicaid. How do those ideas sound . Caller sounds like a cop located mess to me. But the reason they are doing at that ways they want to make sure they can get reelected in 2018 and 2020, down the road. I think about health care savings. People are not going to be turned away from hospitals that dont have any money to pay for it. There is always programs out there to help people. Hosta o ok, all right. Says theyork times time is running out for a republican bill. After this september 30, it would lose procedural protections that allow passage in the senate with a simple majority rather than 60 votes often required for major legislation. Need justhey would 51. This was into Lindsey Graham of South Carolina yesterday talking about their idea and criticizing what democrats have forward. Senator graham there are three choices, prop up obamacare, bernie care or our bill. Count me out for propping up obamacare. Hell no to bernie care. Count me in for an idea that gives the patient a voice they would never have under singlepayer health care. Count me in for people in my state making decisions about health care versus some bureaucrat in washington. Theres a law to fight left in the Republican Party when it comes to repealing and replacing obamacare. The reason i know that is i spent all of august talking about our failure. Happy withwas very the idea that the Republican Party after seven years promise to repeal a replace obamacare, made an effort, failed and appear only willing to quit. The question is, is there any fight left in washington for . Repeal and replace . Is there any fight in the republican senate, in the white house . I can tell you there are a lot of colleagues that are dying to have another shot at health care. There are a lot of colleagues of mine that would like to talk about taking money and power out of washington and returning it to their states closer to the patients and in the hands of people you can actually complain to. Republicans yesterday standing up and saying this is the last effort to repeal Affordable Care, offering a proposal led by senators Lindsey Graham and bill cassidy. You can watch their News Conference if you go to cspan. Org. You had senator sanders, independent from vermont, along with some democrats saying, we need singlepayer. What do all of you say to washington on this idea of singlepayer health care . More here calls coming up. But lets go back to the latest news on the undocumented use in this country, the socalled daca program, the deferred action childhood arrivals program. Nancy pelosi and Chuck Schumer met for dinner at the white house yesterday with the president headline, trump and Democratic Leaders region deal to protect reamers because the two leaders came out of that dinner, put out a statement saying the president agreed with them to quickly pass legislation that would enshrine protections for the socalled dreamers. At the same time, the democrats would agree to some form of security provisions but not agree in this deal to building the wall on the southern border. Ets from reporters last night, the white house legislative director calls the daca statement misleading and says no deal on daca or border wall money was reached tonight. Another political reporter says for what its worth somthe problem solvers that met at the white house. Do daca for Border Security excluding the wall. Then you had senator Sanders Sarah sanders saying the wall was certainly not agree to. And Chuck Schumer said the president made clear he would continue pushing the wall, but not a part of this agreement. That was last night. Then this morning the present wakes up in tweets this out. No deal was made last night on daca. Border security would have to be agreed in exchange for consent. Would be subject to. Vote. Is already under construction would still contain to be built. Does anyone want to throw out good, educated and a couple john people who have jobs . Some serving in the military . Really they have been to the country and many years to no fault of their own, brought in by parents at a young age. He says that there is no deal but then it sounds like perhaps there will be a deal. We will continue to watch that story unfolding in washington as we talk to all of you this morning about health care. Diane in virginia. You support singlepayer. Good morning to you. Caller i absolutely do. I am living proof that it does work. Ive lived overseas for six months. Host and . Tell us about it. In ar my son and was horrific accident he was hit by truck by working in the providence industryi in qatar. Some people say that the Healthcare System mirrors the same Health Care System in canada. It does work. I was under so much stress while waiting for him to stabilize, his health to stabilize, that i had to go get an echocardiogram. They took me in and looked at me and said, didnt ask anything but my name. They did not ask anything about, do you have health care . Means to pay for this health care . The put me on the machine and said i was fine. Thatw, im living proof singlepayer does work. And im back here in the states, back home, thank god. Hes doing well. We were able to stay there long enough to get the paperwork here for medicare to kick in here in the states. It ook som took some time and patience. It does take a lot of paperwork, but that does work, too. When people are in need, they are not looking at anything but the people first. A and not how much you can pay. Host did you have to pay the any money . Doha whatsoever. I do not understand all of the logistics but it i think if we look at canada and other countries like australia that have health care that work, if we study those programs, we probably will have a better understanding of how we can have better care, without means of payment or budgeted in, into our economic wash and here quotient in the states. Yorker magazine says the barrier to singlepayer is that the american Health Care System has been filled by accident built by around employerbased insurance pretty rhetoric of singlepayer concentrates on those who lack insurance at all. But the barrier to singlepayer health care is that people who already have coverage. Designing a syntel system means not only covering the uninsured, but financing the cost of more moving the 155 million americans who have employerbased insurance into medicare. This is not a detail to be worked out. It is the entire problem. This berrybility of is why Lyndon Johnson gave up on trying to pass a universal Health Care Bill and instead confined his legislation to the elderly. Barack obama let the employerbased system intact and created alternate coverage for nonelderly people outside of it. In theory, the transition can be done without hurting anybody. Employerss and their pay to Insurance Companies company would be converted into taxes but this means two political obstacles. First, those people who have employerbased coverage like it and do not wanted to change. Second, higher taxes on popular. Yes, in an imaginary rational world, people could be reassured that medicare will be as good as what they have, and the taxes will merely replace the premiums they are already paying. In reality, people are deeply loss averse and distrustful of politicians. Health care experts have spent decades trying to grapple with this dilemma. Sanders has not come even a single inch closer to resolving it. Instead, he hand waves the problem away. Sam in fairfax, virginia, you oppose this. Good morning to you. Caller thank you for taking my call. I oppose it because what i do not understand is how people can think that this is going to be free for them. At the end of the day, someone has to pay for this singlepayer system. And i, i dont understand how this is, the lower cost. Medicale can get free services, there will be a lot they will be a lot more likely to visit the doctor. For example, i hurt my lower back a year ago. Erys not something that is v severe, but ive considered orng to a chiropractor physical therapist, but i havent because of the cost. Now, if the government was going to pick up the bill on that, mean thevernment i american taxpayer, i would definitely go and get physical therapy or a surgery to fix that. And another thing is Bernie Sanders always talks about, you know, the 1 . And, you know, all the rhetoric surrounding the huber uber rih. Ch. As i remember hearing on one of your programs recently, i think patientsat 5 of the account for 50 of all the insurance costs. And so, its really, it, you know, it is not a matter of everyone needing health care. Yes, there are some people who should, i think, we should help them pay for their medical expenses, but everyone in the entire country does not need every single medical service covered. And i mean, when you look at our debt. Im 26 years old. I, at this point in my life, am not expecting to receive any or socialrom medicare security when i get older. I probably will not be retiring for another 40 years. On the current trajectory were on with our debt just increasing every year, bill clinton was the last president who actually balanced the budget. I dont know how we are going to pay for these programs. Host to your point about what this lowercost . How could it lowercosts . Np says it is hard to answer that 1 r that one. One expert, the Senior Vice President to the Kaiser Family foundation. With a simpler system would come lower administrative costs making health care much more efficient, for example, in the government would negotiate drug prices, bringing Health Care Cost down, as well as price preservice. On the other hand, getting rid of those outofpocket cost has the potential to push up spending. More people would be covered and that would drive up spending. Having no deductible and copays was on great to patients but it means that people will go to the doctor a lot more than they are now and that will drive spending up. Sam echoing what experts said in this nrp article. You can find it online at npr. Org. Ray in lake dallas, texas, you support this idea. Good morning to you. Caller good morning and i love cspan. Please dont cut me off. To the lady who had mentioned something about everybody having to pay everybody elses health care, thats really just untrue. They are already doing it. It he forgot insurance now, and youot insurance now are paying to the Insurance Companies, that is what you are already doing. That is the reason why they tried to grow their base, that is what everybody is already doing now. Host you are making the argument that people who show up the emergency room and do not have insurance, those costs are passed down to the people have insurance. Caller yes. It is only happening now. And i tell you, people ask like that this is going to the emergency room is free, and i assure you it is not. I got hammered before obamacare came along. My well wishes that i wish i had been on obamacare at the time i had to go to the hospital,a and had my gallbladder taken out. That is another story for another day. I do not think we can get out of this without paying something, but let me tell you, geta, i greta, i took all of the money that we are spending from medicare and medicaid, i put it aall together, added it up, i took the population numbers who, in our country needed to be insured, these are people who are citizens of the United States, got their Social Security card, everything else, bona fide citizens, and i just did simple math. You know, you could have a Monthly Payment to medicare for roughly 150 to 200 a month and have everybody have a simple 15t a civil fight copay, every time you went to go get prescriptions, have that copay a simplified 15, that would pay for this. It would pay for a singlepayer system using the medicare system as a vehicle to drive this. And i absolutely believe this works. I absolutely believe Everybody Needs to be on it. I mean, we have not even touched on the psychological effect of being covered by your insurance and not threatened or feel threatened that you are going to go bankrupt. There are people right now that will not go dont go to the doctor because i do not have the money to cover it. To for bid if i had to go the hospital again and have surgery, it would bankrupt my family. Cannot in that hole, i imagine the number of people who are in the same position as i am. If we went to a singlepayer system, all that goes away. David, you oppose it. Good morning to you. Caller yes, i do. Good morning, greta. To simplify it, in order to cover everything right now, we would have to tax every dollar made 44 to 47 . I looked at this one obama first came into office, and that tober would have been 41 44 , but because of the downgrade in employment in this country, it has already been raised to that much in 80 years. Looking at the numbers, those that are working oppose this. They do not want to be taxed 47 . That is simple. It is that simple. To axample, i listened asrom canada who said soon as she got into the states, what did she do . She waited for six months and was eligible and got right on medicaid. Everything was free. Free office visits. 50 cent prescriptions. Someone has to pay for that, and it is those paying 44 to 47 tax on everything that is made. Host we are talking about the taxes you need he is talking about the taxes you need to pay for health care. Tax reform is on the front page of the New York Times this morning. Trump hurries the tax overhaul, not yet written. President trump is doubling down and dispatching his Economic Team to capitol hill almost daily. He is bringing to the give a relatively weak team, a chief economic adviser who he has openly disparaged and a treasury secretary whose counsel he has dismissed. He is promoting quick passage of a new tax code that has yet to be written as members of his party liquor over the details. The urgency was evident on wednesday as mr. Trump urged fast andto move Republican Leaders seemed ready. The goal is taking of legislation in late october. Republicans remain divided on key details and whether they can meet the demand on the Corporate Tax rate. Should tax cuts in the package be paid for by closing loopholes , and hedge funds and private Equity Managers continue to see their hes fees taxed at the low rate of Capital Gains instead of at income tax rates . Democrats have said they will reject any package they see as skewed towards the rich here at yesterday, before the president met with a Bipartisan Group of members on capitol hill, he told reporters that this would not favor the wealthy, tax reform. Here is the wall street journal torial board, is caking escaping the tax reform budget track. The House Speaker has already conceded publicly that cutting the Corporate Tax rate to 15 from 35 percent as unrealistic in the rate might have to be in low20s. Congress can increase its progrowth running room by eliminating tax loopholes to it but some of the biggest money savers are politically difficult. Repealing the state and local p more thanon gins u 1 trillion over 10 years, but will the gop dont divisions in hightechs california and new york by that . This was said, on taxes, the gop was caught on a similar procedural trap from the 1970s. Simple majority vote in the senate, 50 one votes. Voters will judge the Republican Congress based on results, economic growth, and rising wages. A reform that merely cuts taxes for some of the broader prosperity will not deliver the goods. Here is a losing argument for 2018 we did not reform the tax code or cut your taxes all that much, but at least we followed all the senate legend rules. San antonio, you oppose singlepayer health care. That is our conversation. Tell us why. Caller well, i do not oppose singlepayer in the long run. I think it is a great goal. But were not starting from scratch. We have got a very complicated system here. And were talking about jobsands and thousands of within the Insurance Industry and the pharmaceutical industry, which that is not even addressing this opposable by proposalnders this by Bernie Sanders. I think we should start with maybe a public option and then start letting people buy into medicare. What is it, 65 or 67 that you can get medicare . Then gradually 50 to 60 and then 40 and so on. Host that is what he proposes to do over four years. Not think four years is long enough, and i think we need to start with a public option. He does not address what to do about the Insurance Industry as a whole. Host and you think that is a problem . Trying to get people to get Health Care Insurance through as,r employer, you see that as new York Magazine says, as an uphill battle. Caller right, we are not starting from scratch. We have a very complicated system. I know people working in the Insurance Industry. It is just not that simple. There are thousands and thousands of jobs in the Insurance Industry. We have to consider that. And we have based it on employerbased health care for so long, i do not know how were going to go from that to medicare for all within four years. I just do not see how that is going to happen. Host ok, lets go to harold who is illinois. He supports singlepayer. What do you think . You heard that argument. Caller good morning. I think we really need singlepayer health care and that Bernie Sanders is right, completely. I wish he would have been our president. If the Democratic Party would not have messed him about his election, then he would have been the candidate running against trump and probably would have won. That is a big factor. If you look back, when president bush stole the first election on gore where we would be on climate control, we would not have spent all this money on the wars. All the money we spend on the wars the past 14 years would have paid for everybodys health care, and were getting ready for another war with north korea that we cannot afford, but were going to find a way to afford that, but we cannot find a way to afford health care for everybody . What is the point of life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness . How can we live happy if we are not healthy . Our president does make a big difference on the way addressing the country goes, and in the next election, we might need to clear up congress and get somebody up there that is actually working for the people. Go, Bernie Sanders, go. Host ok, lance, milwaukee, wisconsin, you oppose. Caller i do oppose. Harold, you do not want a communist as the head of our country. That you are aware that medicare takes about 40 years to build up host you have got to turn down your tv. That is what is causing confusion or just listen through your phone. Caller takes 40 years of paying in. You cannot just give it to people. It has bankrupted england and canada. That is not the direction for our country. Host ok, a call from shreveport, louisiana. You supported, shelton. Caller yes, i supported because of the fact that every industrialized country in the world has some form of universal health care. It is a right for every citizen to be covered. I do not think it is that complicated on have to fund it. You got the World Health Care has ratedon, which various countries, and the United States does not even rate in the top 10, not even top 20. France is number one. If we really want it, we can look at these Different Countries and figure out what and modeloing right our coverage by that. We need to figure out what we need to do. Host ok. He supports the idea of singlepayer. More of your calls coming up on this idea of singlepayer health care, but first, cspan is launching a brandnew bus today to coincide with our 50 capitals tour, a 14month tour, going to each state capital, leading up to the bus 25th anniversary in november. Tour of the all new cspan bus. Good morning. Welcome to cspans brandnew bus. Thank you for joining me. I want to show you our new interactive Engagement Community vehicle. I am sure some of you have seen the bus on our network. This bus left the shop two days ago, and it is on the road. Let me show you what you will find aboard the bus. Will seelk on, you that the buses filled with 11 tablets with our interactive experience. On this app, you will see the scope of cspan programming. A visitor can learn about our core products, our history, our weekend programs, and resources for educators and students. In addition, you can take a quiz and learn more about the videos through email links. As you are walking back to the rear here, i wanted to show you our selfies stationed. A brandnew bus without having a selfie station, so this is where we are encouraging visitors and groups to sit down and take a selfie of various backgrounds of the capital and of the white house, using our twitter handle cspan and cspancommunity. And we have our video here to show various programming, including White House Press briefings, congressional hearings, and a view of the submarine from portland, oregon. As you want to the back here, this is where we have our presentation area for students and teachers. It is interactive. We spend time with them to share our mission and answer the questions about what you can find on cspan. In addition, this is where you have our production studio. When we kick off the 50 capitals tour, we will be interviewing elected officials, as well. Thanks for sharing this moment, and we will talk to you soon. Host the season at the cspan bus launched in 1993. This is the fourth of bus in the history of the program. We are going to learn a little bit more about the bus, the brandnew look, and the 50 capitals tour coming to a state capital near you, so you can follow along if you go to our website, cspan. Org, cspan community there. You can follow along as the best makes its way to all 50 states, yes, including alaska, hawaii, and we will learn more about that coming up here on the washington journal. Back to our calls about singlepayer. Senator sanders was pushing his proposal to replace the current Health Care System with a singlepayer one. Brian in massachusetts, you oppose it. Good morning. Caller yeah, i think what they ought to do is anybody who is here on a work visa, anybody who is here illegally, they should not get any health care. They should have to pay for it on their own. Cannot get sick or they work, then we canceled her visa and tell them to hit the road. As far as the people who are legal, americans, i think everybody should pay 5 of their income. 10 billion a year, you have to pay 5 of your income into a pool to support health care for all americans. Host all right, robert in brooklyn, you support it. What do you think . It, butwell, i support in one of the articles you read, is it basically that people do not want it. , why not put it up to a referendum . Give a proposition and see if people wanted. Host what do you think would happen, robert . Caller i think people would support it. That is my guess. Host ok, why do you supported . Caller as Bernie Sanders says, every other major country in the world has it. Obviously, it cannot be that unaffordable if everybody else has it. One of your previous callers said it bankrupted england and canada. I have not heard that england or canada wants to abandon their system. Pennsylvania is in and opposes. Welcome to the conversation. Is crazy. Ah, this bernie is crazy. This is america. We are not sweden, not england, not canada. We are american. We are a bunch of crooks and ambulance chasers, which is the reason why it will not work here. We cannot sustain Something Like that. Countriesthose other do not have lawyers running all over the place suing everybody at the drop of a hat. People who voted for bernie do not have a view of history. This is really not singlepayer. It is socialized medicine. Host all right, jim. We will continue with his conversation under the top of the hour. What do you think about singlepayer, as senator sanders and others are pushing for it . Or do you think the money for the Obama Administration should a block grant . First, in other news, this is from the Albuquerque Journal yesterday, hassinger of a statesman, a republican of that state, a former senator, passed away. He was the longest serving new mexico senator and left a bipartisan legacy. Son ofreporting that the an italian immigrant who rose to become a power broker in the u. S. And it died wednesday in new mexico. The republican was known for reaching across the republican divide and worked on Energy Policy over a career that spanned more than 30 years. He was surrounded by family when he died in an albuquerque hospital following a recent surgery. He was 85 years old. There, peteenator domenici. President ews, the saying this morning he is leaving shortly for florida to see our great First Responders to think the u. S. Coast guard. We have much work to do. He has left already, on his way to that state that was impacted by hurricane irma. So those are some of the stories in the papers. From page of usa today, safety issues plague and hospital, sewage leak at a facility that treats the nations leaders. Medstar,tal is washington hospital, the same hospital that congressman Steve Scalise went to when he was shot at the baseball practice this past year. The hospital serves a lower income section of washington and some of the nations most powerful people, the official washington trauma hospital of choice. Hospital employees, local officials, and Health Experts were used to determine how it has fallen so far and reputation. They describe an aging, understaffed facility were the last operating room in which steve scully said surgery had to be closed because of a skew its debts because of a sewage leak days later. The Main Operator is in the hospital basement and some of the rooms are under bathrooms. Today. Ge of the usa the Washington Post editorial boards is an overdue debate, at last, on Foreign Military operations just took place on the floor yesterday. Senator rand paul push forward an amendment that would require a new authorization of military force. They say the amendment voted down by the amendment on wednesday would have not solved any of the problems with the current mess that dates back to 2001. Sponsored by senator rand paul, longtime critic of use efforts abroad, calls to repeal the 2001 aumf and the 2002 authorization of force in iraq on a sixmonth delay. While the amendments supporters argued that the ticking clock would have force lawmakers to collaborate in drafting an improved aumf, there is no guarantee that a Gridlocked Congress would have been able to produce a bill in time. If you missed that debate, go to our website, cspan. Org. You can find it there. That ms. Ou know windsor died yesterday. , edie windsor. The writer of this piece was the lead plaintiff of a case in which a Supreme Court held that samesex couples have a constitutional right to marry. This says edie windsor is a hero, and it says it is because so many people consider her a curis tocousin of her fight to the percent she loves treated equal. She is our hero because she moved the Lgbt Community a giant step closer to full equality as americans. Lets get back to our conversation about health care. Greensboro, north carolina, calling on our line or those who support this idea. Good morning. Caller thank you so much for cspan. I totally support bernies plan. I think medicare for all is long overdue. Everybody in the whole world has it except for us. We have millions of people that need health care, people dying because they do not have it, people losing their homes because they do not have it, people making a lot of difficult choices that they should not have to make. Everyone should have good care. If we have a healthy workforce, we are going to have a happier, more productive workforce. We will be able to compete in the Global Market a whole lot better. Have to have a federal system. Once the money goes to the states, they can use it however they want. Look at welfare. Gets so much money, and i am not talking about host you know what, i am going to leave it at that because you are breaking up and it is hard to understand you. Lets go to a call from new jersey, opposes. Caller yeah, i oppose singlepayer health care. For one, because i think everyone talks about Health Care Like it is some sort of concept, that really, there are people providersyou know, and doctors, and if the government takes over, their salaries are going to be capped, things like that. Kind of antiindividual liberty, because i do not think americans are, you know, should be forced to take care of each other. And that is basically it. Host all right, angelo there. Last night, politico reporting that the president met with Democratic LeadersChuck Schumer and nancy pelosi and struck a deal on those undocumented youth in our country, saying that the present agreed to move forward quickly with legislation that would protect them from deportation while the two size will come together on some Border Security measures but not the wall. Another headline in the paper this morning. ,e wall street journal immigration agreement takes shape. The Washington Times, trump strikes daca deal with two top democrats. It said the present agreed to in tried protections for daca, but shortly after that, there was reports that that was not the deal. Reported that that was misleading and says no deal on daca or border wall money was reached tonight. Then it was said that he would security,r border excluding the wall, for resources in the room. The White House Press secretary tweeting out that daca and Border Security were discussed but excluding the wall was not agreed to. The khamenei case instructor for Chuck Schumer said after that that the president makes clear he will continue pushing the wall, just not as part of this agreement. The president tweeting this this morning, no deal was made last night on daca. Border security would have to be agreed to in exchange for consent. It would be subject to vote. The wall will continue to be built. Does anybody want to throw it good, educated, and accomplished jobs, somee who have serving the military . He says they have been in our country for many years at no fault of their own. Border security. So it sounds like more to come on whether or not there is a deal in place and what would happen and how quickly it would come to the floor for a vote. Illinois,harleston, thanks for hanging on the line. You support this idea of singlepayer. Caller yes, i do. Thank you very much. I have three points to make. I hope you will let me make them. I will try to be quick. The first point is about the mass. Gdp016, we spent 18 of our on health care. Trillion. Qual to 3 the next closest country oh, and we left 30 Million People completely uninsured, lots more underinsured. The next closest country spent 12 gdp and covered everyone content everyone comprehensively from cradle to grave. That means if we lower our 18 gdp down to what any other civilized nation on earth spins, 12 , and cover everybody, we would save 1 trillion every year. 1 trillion is hundreds of billions of dollars more than our military budget and enough to actually eliminate our National Debt within one generation. That is my first point. Becky, i have to leave it there because we are running out of time, but call in again. Apologies for having to stop you. We have the house coming in at 9 00 a. M. For legislative business this morning. Were going to take a short break. First, kick of cspans tour of cspan capitals, we will be joined by scott pattison. He will talk about key issues facing the nations governors. There are 12 former governors currently serving in the 115th congress. Cspan has talked to a fee of them about their experiences in both jobs. Here is a senator who served two terms as maines governor from 1995 to 2003, elected as an independent in 2012. [video clip] governor . Miss life as sometimes, but they are entirely different jobs. I will tell you a funny story. I went up to Mitch Mcconnell one day on the floor and said, you know, we are starting a former governors caucus, and there are 10 or 11 of us and the senate. He said, well, angus, i have noticed if you have a former governor who is now a senator and you ask which job they like better, if they say senator, you know they will lie to you about other things. That is a true story. They are very different. As governor, you have the satisfaction of being able to set the agenda and actually see things happen in a reasonable period of time. The senate is much slower, much more frustrated, but youre dealing with issues at the highest level. Your cross examining the secretary of defense or interviewing the head of the cia or working on National Healthcare policy. So there are compensations both ways. I know you did not go directly from one to the other, but what was the transition period like when you started in the senate . In may have been a little easier for me because i worked here in the senate as a staff minute. I was sworn in 40 years to the day from they i entered Senate Service as a staff member in january of 1973, so i had some understanding of how the place works and what to expect. I must say it does not work as well now as it did then, for a whole host of reasons. But i had a little bit of a head start because of that experience. But it is still a privy oh a pretty overwhelming experience here at a joke was told the the day by calling it for the First Six Months you say, how did i get here, and for the last six months you say, how did those other guys get here . Who knows . What are the hours like . I am working longer hours here. The day typically starts at 7 30 or 8 00 and can go until 10 00 or 11 00 at night, a typical 14hour day. I think last week i had a 19hour day. As governor, you are a little bit more in control of your own schedule. Here, it is whatever comes and you do not really have the control. That is a big difference. Being governor is easier on the family. You can schedule your life so that you can be with your family. I had small children when i was governor that sort of grew up in that environment. Although when i was governor in maine, we stayed in our home and i commuted to the state capital, rather than live in the governors residence, because i wanted my kids to grow up in a more Typical Community rather than a rarefied atmosphere of the state capital grounds. But here, you have got to go back and forth all the time. I am here three and a half, four the, and i am in maine other days. The travel is tough. What are the the issues in maine right now and how are you working with the governor on those issues . A primary issue is the revitalization of our forest economy. There has been a significant measure for the economy based upon for street in maine, whether it was paper, timber, lumber, wood products. And we have had a real blow and the less four or five years, the loss of a number of paper mills, mostly because of world factors that we really cannot control. I think we have lost five or six mills. Nationwide, 125 paper mills closed. It is a serious problem. All of us in the congressional delegation and in the state have been working on new products out of the