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Good morning. Good morning. My name is Megan Van Hutton and i am the director of media and external communications here at the chamber. Welcome to our annual labor day press briefing. First, i have up here randy johnson, our Senior Vice President for labor and Employee Benefits and jd foster, our Senior Vice President for Economic Policy and chief economist. They will each speak for about 15 minutes, and then we will open it up for q a. And you can ask your questions then. So, without further a do, i will pass it over to jd foster. Mr. Foster thank you for coming. Its a pleasure to have you with this. Randy johnson. Ue fromor those suffering hurricane harvey, we wish them on behalf of the chamber all the safety and the swiftest possible recovery from what they are dealing with. The economy is in its ninth year of expansion, which is fairly hisble, as that makes it third longest in the modern era. By next spring, we will have tied for second, and curiously, despite the length of the recovery and expansion, we seem to be heading into acceleration. Normally as the expansion goes the economy slows a bit. Instead, we may have an acceleration, and the reason for that is somewhat in this chart. Before the election. We have the 6 increase. They call that the trump bump. Whether President Trump really gets the credit for that is up to future historians, but there is no doubt that that was coincides with the election of President Trump. Why might the economy react that way with an acceleration . The reason, i think one that you could give, is that with the election of donald trump, we had the promise that Hillary Clintons foot would not be replacing Barack Obamas foot on the economys regulatory brake. Promised donald trump was a stop to the regulatory outpourings under president obama and those regulatory outpourings had a distinct Chilling Effect on Economic Growth. We saw in the Second Quarter the economy accelerated up to 3 . You dont want to make too much out of a single quarter from number, but thats a very promising figure and a strong and balanced representation of the economy, so there is some hope that will continue for a while. It will not go on indefinitely, however. Blinder alan blinder, the former fed vice chair, thattly wrote an article expansions do not end just because they get tired. Just because you have run out of spring. They cant because somethings happened. That is what we will see again. Sometimes there is bad lock a major war were some economic shock in the world. Sometimes there is a bubble in the economy and that finally pops. We had the. Com bubble at the end of the bill clinton administration. We had a recession in george h ws bushs term when the real estate bubble popped. The markets and housing pop together. We do not have any of those obvious bubbles in the economy. One thing that people might point to is that on prices are extraordinarily high because Interest Rates are extraordinarily low, continue to be extraordinarily low, are likely to be for some time. That is an area of concern, but that has been going on again for some time. One area where we do have to be concerned is in bad policy. The most immediate thing we have to worry about right now is the debt limit. The debt limit is coming due at the end of september, october. At that point the treasury will my have the resources to pay all of the bills and we will have a technical default at the very least. Terrible thehow outcome of such an event will be, but it almost certainly will be quite terrible. That is an example of bad policy that is easy to avoid, and that is to raise the debt limit which is what the chamber has been calling on congress and the president to do. Its not going to be easy, but it has to be done. If you avoid that, the economy should continue to do very well. At we have the opportunity, even at this late date, to do things that would make this economy even stronger. Taking the foot off the regulatory brake is an obvious example of that. We recently had a big victory on that score in the eeo one ruling. Thats a perfect example of taking the off the regulatory and understanding is not the regulations themselves and their direct cost, but what it does to the psychology of the Business Community as it thinks about investing going forward. Overall concern. Ke is off, where we will see at first is an acceleration in investment. Other areas were policy can make a huge difference and infrastructure build. Americas infrastructure needs more funding. It is not in a good state. Additional infrastructure for smaller smart projects would economy grow more rapidly. Expanding free trade. That expands economic efficiency and thats how you make an economy will rapidly. Right now the most important thing is tax reform. This is the one area where congress and the president can by far make the biggest difference in terms of accelerating Economic Growth in the u. S. Economy. Comprehensive tax reform built tax rates, lower expensing for businesses, a more Competitive International tax system. These are the core ingredients. If congress can get these done, we will have a much stronger economy for a long time. On the other hand, no one should think the failure to do tax reform means the economy will just grow long the same path we have had recently and would expect to otherwise have. If we dont have tax reform sometime this year or early next year, a lot of is this investment that has been predicated on getting tax reform done will have been poorly made. Business investment will contract significantly and we will have a time of economic weakness, in my opinion. It is not a risk you want to run. Is not just about if you do it, things will be better. In the long run, they will be. If you dont, you will have a weaker economy. This is why the u. S. Chamber donohue has said failure is not an option on tax reform. Turning now to the labor markets we are in the happy position of finally approaching full employment. We are finally approaching full employment. It has been at 5 or below. 5 is generally regarded as for employment. Were not quite at that full employment yet. The way you can tell that, we had job growth of 180,000 a month. When we are at full employment and the jail the labor force is growing with the population, we will have 700,000 jobs. Of fullone of the signs employment. The economy is growing as expected in the job growth slows fullen we will be at employment. We are not quite there yet. This is another example of employment that shows significant, steady growth. The initial unemployment rates are amazingly low right now. Theres 200 and 40,000 a week. Thats an extremely low number. Certainlyower is suggestive of expansion. Spectacular, we have had solid growth throughout this expansion. Job growth exceeded what you would expect given the other elements of expansion in the economy. On the other hand we have not had real wage growth. Wage growth popped up, as you can see here if you look at that great bar, around 2009, that is recession and curiously real wages popped up in the middle of the recession. What was that about . We had six months of deflation. So, if you think about real wages, you have nominal wages as the numerator and the price level in the denominator. If it is real flat, you get a jump in wages. But they were stagnant and fell for a bit. Theys not until 2013 finally started to rise. They did not rise rapidly, but they were rising consistently year after year. What we expect now, we were getting close to full employment , and we were still dealing in effect with the consequences of that recession. Employment and then you have faster real wage growth. Faster real wage growth as employers have to bid more for workers. Its an interesting thing. We have heard for months now, for years in fact, the story from employers that they cannot need. He workers that they part of that was a skills mismatch. The economy has to adjust and the workers have to adjust and workers have to adjust to what in the workforce is available. That has certainly been a factor. Factor, theyof the have not been able to find the employees they were looking for they percolate through the rest of the labor force. Why i thinkreason youll see a real acceleration on wage growth going forward. It does have consequences for the rest of the economy, however. For one thing, as wages start to rise significantly, labor will be looking for more opportunity to use capital. Employers the consequence of this is that Household Incomes will maintain a strong growth in the aggregate , even as labor employment you will have an acceleration in wages. You put those factors together and used sustain growth in household income, which is great for maintaining personal consumption. The other consequence, however, will be more pressure on business profits. A lot of businesses have been doing very well in this expansion. They will increasingly have difficulty making infamy. One of the odd things that happens when you get to this part of the Business Cycle is you start seeing an increase in business failures. Rising wages become more expensive than employers can bear and you see an increase in business failures. Its highly lamentable to the. Usiness owners the good news is the labor market will be tight and they should be able to find new jobs. But this is another part or a chapter of the story of the expansion coming out of the great global recession, the fact that you will get a slowdown in job growth, an acceleration in real wages and if both of those things occur, you will probably see an increase in business failure rate, which counterintuitively will be a sign of economic strength, not weakness. It means that we are starting to move resources to where they can be moved productively, which is another sign of Economic Growth. We are close to full employment finally. The economy is doing quite well. We are benefiting from a global expansion. For the first time in many years, almost all of the Major Centers in the Global Economy are doing well. We are all stronger if we are all stronger. It means real wages should be rising. What we have to do right now is make sure that this continues. Increaset to see this in real wages i am talking about, we have to keep the rest of the economy growing. That means avoiding unforced errors and policy in dealing with infrastructure, tax reform, and trade and if we do all of those things, especially the tax taxrm, Congress Passes reform, gets a bill to the president fell desk on a timely basis, the economy should continue to do very well for a long time. Expansions do not and just because they get tired do not just do not into just because the get tired. We have to make sure theres because of good policy that it does not get tired for a long time. Im looking for to setting a record for the longest expansion in american history. Thank you. Its time to take my millions out of my passport savings account and put them in into the market. I will look into that. So, look, this is the time of year when the time of year when the management and the this off with comments around employers along the lines that employers are not doing enough about their employees and their joining the union and the reason the membership rate is continuing to decline and not go up is because it unions are overly aggressive and unique campaigns, etc. It is part of my job to try to take five minutes and set the record state set the record straight. Lets look at how employers are with their employees. Lets take the views of employees. These are numbers that are good news, so they rarely get reported on. They are all hard data that we have picked from straightforward of her mental databases, and i think it tells quite a story. So, 9. 9 trillion in compensation very wages accounted for a trillion dollars. Employers spent proximally one point 9 trillion in Employee Benefits or 19 of total compensation. Otal i know you have this handout, but it may be useful for those watching a home. We lose track of that in the 177. 5rbased system, million americans receive their Health Insurance from them based coverage. That does include state and local governments. People might say, state and local governments always do that, randy. In retirement benefits, we do benefits. Ee we know with Social Security problems coming up, people need to save more, but employers are doing their bit on this. Eb retirement plans. D. C. Plans, which pretty much everyone in this room house, defined contribution plans, have nine 94. 6 million participants, including active participants and retirees. This doesnt mean theres universal coverage or that every employee has access to these 401 k or similar plans, but thats an impressive figure. Everyone knows about health care and pension benefits, but also leave and Life Insurance benefits. Paid leave or the absence of that does not get much attention on capitol hill. People need to look at the data. This is straight out of the bls. A benefits are among the most common offered to employees. With reports of employees in the private sector, including parttime workers, parttime off. Generous in Smaller Companies . But Smaller Companies, these good people know their employees and they try to work on an ad hoc basis to make accommodations with employees for leave even if they do not have a formal policy. Offered insurance is with over half of private employers. Before i leave he might was is a, ok, thats a lot of data, but what do employees think . Heres a recent survey. Half, 40 9 of American Workers are very satisfied with their current job in another 30 are somewhat satisfied, meaning samina percent are either somewhat satisfied or somewhat satisfied with the job. Most feel secure in the job. 88 are either not at all likely or not to likely to think they will lose their jobs. Even better, august 23, 2017, the gallup pole showed that 90 of adults employed parttime are totally satisfied with the safety conditions of the workforce. That came out august 23, 2017. So, these statistics only tell part of a story, of course, but i think that these stories are important to be aware of when contrary stories from the workforce. Why are Union Memberships always in decline . We can talk about this before. This is provided by federal statute 10 state statutes, that is true. There still remains this problem, quite friendly, of the perception of union corruption. This uniono corruption, too. The bls, labormanagement forces this area. Formert in 2016 Union Employees sentenced for embezzlement, the officers sentenced for embezzling use ,nion funds, send is to larceny Union Official found guilty embezzling 350,000 union funds. We have thee out kansas city star. They go on and on about how they revise their procedures internally and two years later they were spending union dues on lavish hotels, parties, etc. When i talk about the Union Movement, so many workers want they rarely see in the discussion of fact. You as an employee have to Pay Union Dues or you will get fired in right to work states. You have to pay or you get fired and often those end up embezzlement embezzled by corrupt Union Officials. This is a story that is not upheld by the Union Movement and needs to be focused on. Its not like you can join a union and a nonright to work state. These are often misused. Lastly, i just want to point out the bullet about the Public Sector. For decades, there has been an alarming trend of the number of this ins approaching the private sector, a phenomena and of employees in the Public Sector aligned with politicians who are going to vote for bigger spending programs to keep those same employees employed and those spending programs will be paid for by workers in the private sector. This has been a growing issue for the last, i would say, 15 years. And i think that we see that that is becoming worse and worse. Real quick care. Here. L quick i will with a minimalist approach her. Policy priorities, you have a paper, papers there on your table. Real quickly, jd mentioned we have had successes in rolling back obamacare regulations. You have good material in your paper here. Osha walk around, two interpretations over a dol for two employers and independent contractors, and lastly the new one which was just repealed a couple days ago to send back to eeoc, reporting requirements, which have gotten much attention in the press. I just want to note these were under not under title vii, but under the paperwork reduction act. And i emphasize the word reduction. This is how the eeoc the eeoc looked under the Obama Administration. Two pages. Eeoc sent this under the paperwork reduction act. So, here is what the new form was. This is the new form. So, im not quite sure how this is a reduction. And on be under the administration of the dust to the priorthey had administration failed to apply the requirements of the paperwork reduction act and they properly emphasized the responsibility for the eeoc. The benefits were woefully they exercisednd their authority and the more reduction act as one of the few laws it can enforce and it has been a lost art since the reagan days and they stepped forward and said it was approved for political reasons under the Previous Administration and we will send it back to the eeoc. That is what that was all about. Pretty symbol requirements. Is not a victory for the Business Community. It was a victory for logic and common sense. Jds point, the savings for probablyess community would have been 2. 7 billion. All of this money can be pumped into the economy more productively. We are looking at the National Labor board. Theres a couple of pieces of legislation on capitol hill. With regarderving to what the last administration did, we will be serving a lot of these issues. We have a lot of these papers before you which i recommend for your perusal tonight. They are on our website. I was not going to put these out. I looked at them last night and they looked so good, i said we have to put them out. Health, look. We will let the dust settle, figure out what we are going to do next. We have to stanch the bleeding and come back and look at costreduction payments. A lot of people think the Health Insurance tax just helps big Health Insurance companies or something. Even cbo says that that taxes likely to pass through to communities in the form of higher premiums. These are initiatives to lessen the increases in premiums i eliminateay increases. The others, they are in the documents. We are not giving up on health care. We will let the dust settle and see where we go. Retirement policies regulation is something we are heavily involved with. It does hurt Small Businesses ability to provide retirement advice to employees that they need to rid we have a lot going on in terms of policy recommendations. We have a major white paper on the hill to make plans. Its easier to administer so offer them. Rs can these are ideas where we think we can work with congress on a bipartisan basis to get this done. That is, again, something on the website. I want to conclude with immigration. We do not have a policy paper on immigration. Its a more controversial area. We are trying to figure out where our interests align with the trump administration. There is question that the administration as a whole is an economic benefit to this country. That does not mean that there is not a need for changes. We are willing to engage with the administration on immigration on meritbased minstrels. We sat down with the kotten staff on the new cotton bill. There may be room to talk. We cannot got immigration. Immigration across the board is a benefit to this nation. Chamber white paper coming out in september to reassert these principles with updated resources. Let me just say on this point aat if immigration were not benefit to this country, you would not have cities of ross this country such as st. Louis, detroit across this country such as saint was, detroit reaching out to immigrants. Because theyg that reactivate the economies in those cities. They are not seeing them as a burden on social resources, etc. Where the rubber meets the road, where mayors have to figure out run cities, they are revitalizing economies and that immigration. Owing theres a lot going on. Theres mandatory everify. Thatnk we are all aware the president may repeal dr. For five days. T we hope that he doesnt. The legal basis for it was unclear. Defensible, but unclear. But these people it was never challenged in court. It seems to us that it seems to pull the rug out from under them. The same thing as coming up with temporary protective status programs which we hear that the Administration May consider terminating soon. Millions of workers are embedded in the workforce and we would hope that the administration would move very cautiously in that area. We have a program that needs to be revised with greater numbers and it also needs to include certain protections for American Workers to improve the program and we will be working closely with senator hatch on that. Immigration is a staff issue. Theres a lot of emotion with that. Position has been the same since 2001, before i had gray hair. We will be working to find the sweet spot with this administration and work with our allies on capitol hill. With that great. We will open it up for questions. I just ask that you give your name and outlet before you ask this question. Can forgive with reuters. I wanted to ask, mr. Foster, what do you think withdrawing the u. S. A would do to economy . Do you think that that would the u. S. Into a recession, and more broadly, what you think the u. S. Economic impacts could be . Mr. Foster the impacts would be harmful in two different ways. Obviously expanding trade, so we can do best what we do best in others can do best what they do best and we are all better off. Thats the a sick principle. If you withdraw from nafta, either quickly or slowly over time maybe announce it at some future date, your moving the wrong direction. The specific is harmful. The general would be harmful. The president ran on trade policies that were deeply concerning to the Business Community. Since then his administration has been working through how to manifest those views into actual policy and so far, they have been fairly benign. Things that we can work with. On the other hand, withdrawing from nafta would be a completely different character and would suggest to be direct and of trade policy is exactly the wrong way to go for the health of the u. S. Economy. Businessf the relationships predicated on nafta would be gone. Then there is the broader theme of the harm that would be done to the trade agenda and the direction of trade policy going forward. Speaks to the broader concept within the economy, much as in the Regulatory Environment where it does not just affect those affected by the regulations, but it changes the environment in general for investment. Hi, jonathan from. Predictably, have a tax related question. Jd, you indicated that the economy my contractor we can if tax reform is not passed this year or early next are. I wonder if you can look at that further and discuss whether we should be more cautious making investments based on those kinds of legislative means . Mr. Foster businesses are making those adjustments on their own in i will not tell them whether they should invest more or less. But it is clear a lot of Business Investment is predicated on certain policy outcomes with uncertainty attached. We dont know what the outcome is going to be, even if you knew for certain the tax reform would be signed into law sometime this year or early next year, that does not mean you know what is in it. There is a vast uncertainty not only about the content of what tax reform would be given all of that there is a presumption because there is such an overwhelming need to pass tax reform because we are so far out of line with International Competitors with respect to tax rates and the International Tax system speaking just from the business side, that need is so needsthat, of course, it to get done and probably will get done, so businesses are investing on that basis. If it turned out that types are formed did not happen, it would be a fundamental shift in how businesses are thinking. This is the big shot. Better shot at tax reform now than we have had over the last 30 years, by far. If it doesnt happen now, the prospects of it happening in the next to that of years are not as good, we would presume. The regime, but businesses will think very differently about the business economy. Substantialbe weakening of the economy. How much . No way to know. Sean higgins the washington examiner. One area where your interests overlapanized labor do is these socalled cadillac tax in the of herbal care act. Did that ship sail when Health Reform crashed in congress . Say insurance reimbursement is one of our areas. Say we have an unholy alliance with the unions. They are right down the street. We talk about the cadillac tax and strategy. Its very much in the forefront of the employer community, particularly selffunded companies in the chamber. We would put it right up there with the price tax in getting it done. Alex, bloomberg bna. Im wondering is there an idea how those, how tax of one is going to happen . 2018 . Is this a long tax reform . The phrase every option on the table is getting overused these days. A look, i think those guys up on the hill, and i spent 10 years up on the hill, these are tax issues. They will not be warded off on the debate. Speaking parochial he, it important for my view to preserve the existing treatment of Employee Health care benefits. Its a big issue among republican thinkers. Think we are in the job of drawing lines in the sand. The presumption is these progressions would be dealt with with health care reform. They have not been walled off from tax reform, but obviously folks would prefer not to have more things added to their plate and the tax made more complicated. But as randy said, all things are on the table because the outlines of tax reform are as yet unknown to the rest of us. Apparently they are somewhat known to house and Senate Leadership in the white house, but they are not far long enough for them to let us know what they are up to. The presumption is they would be dealt with separately, but you cannot roll them out being included as part of tax reform. What do you recommend for the bipartisan stabilization effort coming up the sides csr . Do you see the Health Repair the health care for being piecemeal as opposed to an attempted another big package . I think we have to sort through where we are going to be on that. There is the old saying about whenis the easiest part the train leaves the station, the rest of us get left behind. Naomi, with the hill. Yourust curious what thoughts were on the speech President Trump gave yesterday on tax reform and your thoughts the Administration Needs to come up with more specifics on tax reform. First, we appreciate that the president is behind tax reform. That was his most compelling statement yet. There is no doubt that we need to get tax reform done and we very much appreciate that. We learned once again over the eight years of the Obama Administration tax reform is quite impossible without the president felt strong support. President obama was not particularly interested in tax reform. It never really got into the a baseballx to use analogy. At least with President Trump, we know that he is deeply interested and is working with house and Senate Leadership to come out with the brought airline so we all the broad outline so we all come together. When should they come out with more specifics . That depends on a lot of context. Theres a lot of other things going on between the spending bill, the debt hill, need a budget resolution. If you come out with too many specifics of your tax plan too early, its just going to sit there for a while. Ons a lot easier to focus the negatives as opposed to the positives. The timing will depend a lot on how soon they think they will be able to have a markup in the house ways and means committee, quite frankly. Question is when will ways and means be able to markup the chairman smart . You backup and that is when you have a sense of when they will come out. That will depend on what is happening and congress will have a very full plate for the next month. Juliet, with the washington post. This is probably a question for randy. You talked about the legislative underbrush. Can you talk about any remaining priorities the chamber has, and legislation . R1 can you shed any light on how you think that might be affecting policies coming forward . Mr. Johnson we have persuader legislation. Rate is not being addressed by a request for information. Then, of course, we have the court case. We have to get overtime done. Oceanis a stay of the rulemaking on recordkeeping that would require employers to report to osha and post those on the internet, similar to the eeo one form in terms of unfiltered information. We are in court on that. There are three there. Obviously, part of this depends on and think we have to get staffed up at these agencies. The secretary is doing a great job. When it comes to putting pen to paper, i spent 10 years at the a well. Its a lot of work. I dont think the secretary is going to do that with his personal pen. Get more business friendly people over to those agencies. Nlrb, is not just regulations. Its case law. A lot of people get confused. Reverse Specialty Health care. D. R. Horton. Side, wethe regulatory would like in ambush election law we would like them to revisit. Not saying they well. We would like them to put that on the slate. Theres a lot of interest in insideing things like sales revisions. I have been through these wars before. Youll not find them between boundaries. F you have to figure out what is really doable. Theres only 52 votes in the senate. In 95, we took over with newt gingrich, and we ended up beating our head on the wall. Policy committee structure. Those of you who might be on cspan listening, they should join the chamber if they are not members and help us develop our policy. We will have subcommittees and im am using those to develop recommendations going forward. This question is for randy. Could you elaborate on the chambers plans on the Judiciary Role this fall. Could you quantify and what are you trying to accomplish . It seems the rest of regulation is going your direction with this proposed urine have to lay. Never tried to guess, but we expect this to come out of only be soon. Omb looks to have an expansion of the reagan. And that is also to coordinate with these securities and exchange commission. I do notquesting want to prejudge that. Case on how this is impacting our members in the financial area, but also employers who are trying to use this and how much is it driving up costs and making it more difficult for them to do this. We have surveys going on. We are requesting the legal underpinnings of the regulation in many ways. It is woefully, ridiculously illegal. The implied private cost of action, we think, is not sustainable. Theres a variety of things going on. We are going to participate in the rulemaking. Hello. I want to ask you about the joint him lawyer. Im wondering if you guys have any sense on if the legislation has any chance of getting through the senate or if there might be some way this could pass. I know a legislative solution is favored by many in the Business Community. Am quite familiar with the bill. Tell you how the minority view the ryan ferriss decision. The new test is fatally ambiguous, providing no that is as to when and how parties may contract the performance of work without being joined as employers. This is a 30 page set. The test iswhy unworkable. There is bipartisan interest in this and i would say among joint coursers certainly, of the bill in the house does have bipartisan support with a handful of democrats you say handful of democrats and this is a labor issue, that is unusual. I think we got a shot. We are going to move it through the house. A lot of labor issues. I think we have a shot of this in the senate. We might take some compromising at the end. Theres a lot of angst. Theretiffs lawyers is a lot of push behind this. It could be that a case will move to the National Labor willions board and that take the wind out of the sails of the legislation, but we will deal with that, too. Despite what people think about the senate and labor issues, i think this is got a decent shot of getting through to the president. It is so eminently reasonable. Certainly, we will get there. Any other questions . All right. Thank you one must question . Ok. Dna. Ckie lee, Bloomberg Bloomberg bna. I was wondering what you think a more reasonable version of the eu one form could look like . And whether that is something that you can see in the foreseeable future . Mr. Johnson of course, there is a [indiscernible] thejohnson there is one on books now. The dilemma there, of course, is, sometimes what i had a big vacuumpushing a United States the and gobbling up a bunch of information and not knowing what to do with it. They would help you find something, maybe they would find something cool to do with it. I dont know what the answer to that is. The got to be within statutory mandate, which is to enforce the laws, not just gobble up information and see what they can do with it. Maybe bls can do that. I think maybe the agency would be better served to promote pay equities through things like forutory safe harbors pay what cannot be discovered through litigation, which is a deterrent from the pay Equity Analysis of their work horse. Amendmentsually some to the equal pay act in the occupational defense area that we have not talked to republicans about. Make it slightly harder for employers to defend wage based decisions. As for the form itself, i dont really know what a suitable alternative to the existing form might the. Again, i would urge people who want to dig into that, dont look at title vii. Look at the paperwork reduction act. Look at the laws that have been on the books for a long time that have been traditionally ignored by this has administration which was defanged by political people in the white house such as valerie jarrett. All right, on that note, we will wrap up. Please let us know if you have questions. You can always get in touch through the chambers press office. Thank you for attending. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. Visit ncicap. Org] [captions Copyright National cable satellite corp. 2017] distinct conversations]. It is running a few minutes late. We will have it for you when it starts. Portion from todays washington journal on evangelicals and the trumpet restoration. Trump administration. , a member of the president s executive evangelical Advisory Board and he is here to tell us about his support of the president. Even in the wake of the

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