Ben Eastham talks to artist Lucile Desamory. This episode is part of a series produced in conjunction with the 14th Shanghai Biennale at the Power Station of Art (November 2023–March 2024), curated by Anton Vidokle, Zairong Xiang, Hallie Ayres, Lukas Brasiskis, and Ben Eastham.

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Berlin , Germany , Zairong Xiang , Hallie Ayres , Ben Eastham , Lucile Desamory , Anton Vidokle , Lukas Brasiskis , , Shanghai Biennale , Power Station ,