Allison, scott jennings, congressman ro khanna, scott taylor, and kara swisher with 27 days it's to go americans with different perspectives aren't talking to each other. But here they do i'm abby phillip in new york. Let's go right to what america is talking about. Which candidate can make your life better, or kamala harris is in the middle of a media tour and today she got a question that speaks to what's on your mind, the direction of the country, and what it's headed for, and how it might look different if she had led the country through the last four years and not joe biden, while her answers singled out, that she was a little surprised by the question, just listen would you have done something differently than president biden during the past four years there has done a thing that comes to mind in terms of and i've been a part of most of the decisions that have had impact. Listen, i plan on having a republican in my cabinet. You got it less difference between joe biden and me. Will that will be one of the differences. I'm going to have a republican in my cabinet because i don't i don't feel burdened by letting pride get in the way of a good idea all right, we're here at the table. It have an answer can and ready to go for that question, which is kind of at the core of what voters are asking themselves, who is really the candidate who is going to give them change here? yeah, scott, you're like evidence. You know, i mean, i would've, said actually one of the things that i was doing different is what i'm talking about here today on this show. And it's introducing that the care economy is going to be he's center in my campaign because we have a country who is burdened by having to care for our parents that we were just talking about because there are things that are different. But here's the thing that, that answer shows me is that kamala harris is a loyal person to her boss and she's not going to use an interview to throw him under the bus for clickbait i think it has to be throwing under the bus. I mean, but i mean, it is a legitimate question for voters like, what is the next four years is going to look like? that is different than the last four years, but she is running on the slogan of a new way forward. And she said today, we're going to stay on the same path, which is i think everyone would admit not a popular path. I mean, biden has put some handcuffs on her. I mean, he has gone out last week and said she helped me pass every law. She was part of every decision. He's making it difficult for her to get any separation and then she has also in the last few days said biden has totally with it totally couch for his mental acuity. And today says, yeah, i can't really think of anything that i would have done differently. This must be very confusing for american voters who must be thinking, then why are you running? why isn't he running if he's up to it and you wouldn't change anything, then why is joe biden not in this race right now, i thought about who goes on the view and gets outsmarted by the way. I mean, this was a total disaster for her if she had had a canned answer, you'd have said all she has. I would have say good job, separate yourself. It'd be the last political sham that in several different times. But in this case, we just was giving the answer shoot off the top of her head and it's fine to do that. At one time. You want her to be sort unscripted and other times he wanted to be scripted or shouldn't be scripted. I think she just said she's going to be loyal this guy. Think you're absolutely right. She cannot especially as a woman throw him under the bus, she needs to look oil and she has been loyal to him and i don't think people would find that upsetting if they if she threw him under the bus to whatever she does. I hear what you're saying, scott and i think logically yes. It seems that it would be difficult for her separate herself from biden, but but look at the new york times sienna poll asked which candidate represents change at 46%, say harris 44% say trump, which candidate represent is a strong leader, 45 per say, presents a harris 48% say trump something in there, tells me that voters are they actually do think that she's going to be different from biden on one of the most important issues of our time, abortion rights, reproductive rights. She is different she's clearer, she's when visited a reproductive health clinic. She's more passionate. She doesn't have to say it. It's obvious this is why the race is neck and neck. Women are supporting or much more than they supported. Joe biden and i think you know, whether she flubbed an answer or not. They're loyal the point is, everyone knows that she's clear moral voice on an issue that really matters. So one of the other interesting things about this press tour that she's doing is that we are seeing a different side of her. I mean, she's going to places like howard stern to the view to call her daddy here is that again yeah. I mean, that's neither stop. This is one of the big guess it shows it, you know, much. I wish it was but here's the thing. Like it is huge and i think most people do not recognize his, including on the all the cable stations like haha. This is an important show. This is the howard stern of women. If you want to make, you have to make sure that hour. Now he returns pretty good. He sees for a long time, he said an amazing career in that regard. But this is an important venue for her to be on and i can't underscore. I was talking to a group of people and some people were joking about every young person. I said, if you don't understand this, all the young people are like, thank you. Like you have to understand how important absolutely. I mean, let me just play real quite before you jump in. This is her at talking to 60 minutes. This traditional media, but she's talking about the gun that she owned that a lot of republicans, a question that there's a real where is it? here's her talking about it? what kind of guns you own and when and why did you get it? i have a glock and i've had it for quite some time and look at my background in law enforcement and so there you go have you ever fired it? yes of course at a shooting range yes, of course, i have all right so can. We lay this to rest? are you satisfied that she owns a gun that she doesn't matter to me, i guess let me just talk about briefly about a couple things that we just said like, i don't want her to have can answers. I don't want to i want her to be authentic and that's it. That's another case right there. Just like i own a glock you know. Well, and i've had it for quite some time. Quite some time ago she also supported legislation that would have banned that glock and would have confiscated inside city limits that glock so i just want it in washington or in california and getting california county, california. So and san francisco specifically. So i just find her to be very inauthentic and i think a lot of folks too as well. So i think it's important for her to go on those mediums of nontraditional media just like president trump has many, many times in many podcast, i think it's extremely important i want her to, i wanted to do as much media as possible because i believe the more that people see her, the more they see that in authenticity and the more they dislike her do you think that she should have done more media earlier? i mean, i don't want to go too deep into this conversation, but i mean the big picture of all of this, and i'll play another clip in a moment. But the big picture of all of this, do you think that she is doing just fine and why not see this part of her a month ago? who knows, if you should? i like mainstream media wants to be like she should have done it. We've ever seen a campaign like this before, so people who act like they know exactly what's happening here they also have a bridge to sell you in brooklyn. Okay so i just think that we will know on november 6 or seventh or eighth or ninth whenever it's called, whether or not she should have done more media. I think the question is at the end of the campaign, when you look at the hours of interviews interviews, not fox news, not like, you interviews that kamala harris has done. And donald trump has done, i bet you, they almost average out to be the same. And i think the way we cover it is different because we cover donald trump and kamala harris differently. Whether we like it or not, that's the case. I mean, i hear people see we will see we'll go back and we also should do per capita. How long they, but she really has not done even with this blitz. Yes, she really stream media. They're very active on social media. There everything has changed and mainstream media doesn't seem to get that still, i don't know, 20 years into the internet age, people consume things much different currently than they used to. And you have to just respond to that. And in her case, she's doing what she wants to do. That's why the new york times is squawking because they haven't gotten the interview, but nature is going to she's only had the call me daddy and howard stern and she had all the smoke and then all the smoke. Matt barnes and stephen jackson were on the breakfast club today talking about which. But i think just like it's a strategy, not an either or thing. I mean, what you got to acknowledge that just because she has the ability to do friendly interviews, doesn't mean that that's the only thing that she should do. I think it's totally fine for her to do. It. It's just that it's also fine for her to do quote, unquote mainstream media because there he is donald trump doing, i guess is mostly, i mean, i think that's a totally fair questions i think even some of the friendly, nontraditional interviews have not turned out that well, but very contact with the mainstream media i mean, the 60 minutes interview on issue after issue, i think did not really help her campaign. The immigration answers did not help her campaign, denying answering the question three times about whether they made the right decisions on the immigration changes that lead the flood of people into the country. So i think the reason they're shying away from it is because often her rhetoric doesn't survive contact with the mainstream media. It's more app to survive contact when you go on the view usually but, but it's a tough thing even then, even then it was let me say one quick thing just because i think this is actually an important shift in messaging. This is her on howard stern, i taking a page leslie out of donald trump's book i do believe that this is an election that is about strength versus weakness. Yeah. And weakness as projected by someone who puts himself in front of the american people and does not have the strength to stand in defense of their needs, their dreams, their desires but it sounds like it's one that i couldn't very well be effective, especially since trump is trying to run as these strong candidate i mean, he himself has said, like a strong man. Thank you. Showed that also in the debate where she went toe to toe with donald trump and came out stronger. And that was against a former president. I think that's where she came off as presidential, but my view is it's not as important for her to do as much mainstream media. I think she's done fine. I think she needs to go on factory floors whereas i think she needs to go on town halls. I think she needs to go in the rural communities and the place where i've actually seen her grown tremendously is her connection with voters as on a retail level, i've seen her when she was a district attorney in san francisco and you look at her now there is a image of her connecting with a young girl and how she connected definitely listen to put her out there with voters. They're the ones who are going to decide ceos aren't doing these anymore either. Everybody is going that directly to people now as i used to do lots of ceos interviewed, it's very hard to get them now, mark zuckerberg goes to friendly venues were they say, oh, wouldn't large head you have how did you think of that or whatever? it's a change in the whole media ecosystem because they have their own direct way. And i think a lot of media has to think about, but i think, you know, you mentioned her change in rhetoric where she's trying to, okay. Now, now on the strong person, donald trump is the weak person. Just speaking as a dude, right? a country guy i'm just telling you right now. I mean, i talked to lots of guys of a bro so when you when you talk to people, no one's looking at her and saying this is the strong leader that plays out in the data. That in the del conversation it's not a sexist thing to say. I wouldn't even dismiss it. I think that that is worth unpacking. They is 100% and it is a challenge for her, but it may not be for the reason that you're saying everyone stick around for us coming up next donning revelations from bob woodward's new book, including trump's secret calls to vladimir putin, his secret covid deliveries to putin. And what biden really thinks of america's allies and adversaries stay with us dragging ramo kitten. 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And with favor so scott taylor, is it fair to ask what was he doing on these calls when why so many of them it's fair to ask, of course, if there if it's true, i don't know if it's true or no, it's his reporting it's the same thing with john kerry when he was meeting with the iranian officials after, after he was out of office, it's fair to ask what we know, what's he talking about and i guess it's fair to ask for sure. Yeah. I mean, i will say that trump hold that illegal when kerry did it, he said it was okay. And obviously the trump campaign has put out a statement that it was false. So i'm not sure for sure not but i will say that mrs. Harris was sent over to stop the war and then shortly after they are putin invaded as he did under obama and biden. So my opinion that the next president and hopefully will be donald trump has the ability to, to speak to putin. And i know that's a dirty word and a lot of circles which is sort of ridiculous because you need to be speaking to your enemy, of course. And i think i think that donald trump, as opposed to harris, has the ability to potentially stop world war iii and that's what i'm betting. Well, first of all, she was over there to warn zelenskyy vowed but the upcoming invasion, so that's oddly inaccurate she was over there to talk to were there for a show of force to determine also, while she was there, didn't that they were going to invade and they had intelligence, including in the woodward book about this. The second thing is he's a private citizen. You shouldn't be talking to admire putin. That's really pretty much basic stuff. He shouldn't be meeting with other world leaders. It's not, he's not been we have a government that doesn't all the time. I understand that, but this is a unique situation leaders all the time but the same guy, an adversary that's the question here is she sheila adversary like, well, i'm asking you an adversary like vladimir putin. Does that not change the calculus? yeah, i don't love the optics of him talking to putin. Just be honest, because the way in the middle of a war, there's like a war going on, but it's not surprising to me that a former us president republican or democrat would have conversations with world leaders peters, that they had some relationship with. I know the book also sort of made a big deal out of this idea that he sent these like covid tests or whatever to putin. But i've been, i've been wondering the machine. I've been wondering though today, like what is more concerning? these conversations and these covid machines or the fact that we've been sending billions to the iranians who are now funding terrorism and attacking our biggest ally. And kamala harris goes on tv and says, this is our biggest geopolitical foe, which it's not but the relationship between biden and obama and harris and the iranians to me is far more. I just felt glad you're talking about the iran nuclear deal and you're talking about the unfreezing of assets that's not the same thing as obama sending billions of dollars to iran. Well, the congressman has but all this. Yeah. I mean, obviously i don't think he should have been talking to him seven times, but the bigger issue is what does he want to do going forward because he keeps saying he wants to end the war. But what does that mean? does he mean, okay. We're going to give away a fifth of ukraine because that's what putin wants. And then if he does that and he ends the war on those terms, then are we going to say, okay. China, if you will? invade taiwan, i'll tell you what you can have a fifth of taiwan and will end the war. He's never answered the question. End the war on what terms and if someone he has a solution, then share it with us. Yeah. That's such an important point because i mean, it is the retrospective part of this is interesting, but it is a question of trump has been saying for months that he has some special relationship with putin, that he would release a political prisoners, that he would be able to solve this war in 24 hours let me just play a little bit about what trump has been saying about his relationship with putin of late a good relationship and they respect your precedent. They respected me. They don't respect biden. I got to know president xi of china and putin of russia. Got to know a lot of the leaders. They're tough cookies and smart, and we have a very good relationship and i also have a very good relationship as you know, with president putin we have more good relations with tango i mean, it's just incredible. But what is he going to do? what is the actual plan americans back i'll be brief here is only thing i will say is i think the reason why former presidents talking to international and foreign leaders might happen all the time. The difference here is donald trump is running to be the president again. And so what conversations is he having after he had got out of office making deals that might be undermining our current government. That is the thing that makes me that hasn't really been brought up in this conversation that makes me very concerned and bay and i think than for people than an obama, than a bush having a conversation with another foreign leaders. So i think it is, i think ro is correct here are not cover excuse me. I think he has a great point when he's like, what's the plan, right? but it's important to say if you're negotiating something or if you're going to let's say he becomes a president, he has to negotiate the end. Or peace or something like that. You're not just going to throw your plan out there. That's that is kind of ridiculous that you said, oh, no, the american people more details other than saying, i'm just going to snap my fingers and it'll be solved. That is not how i don't think that's that passes any moment. And of limit or shipped to understand where any person really i understand that we want to hear more. I understand zelenskyy wants to hear more, but here's the reality and putin as a devil that people been saying that for months have even said his name, it was bad. You can't talk to them. But the reality is more than more likely than not, unless war, a nuclear war, there will be a political so she hated peace settlement. And how that goes down, what it looks like, what the plan is. You can't say it right now because you just don't know. It's unrealistic to say what's your plan for the peace settlement right now, what put you put all your cards on the table right now. It's just want that specificity from commonwealth harris, and here's the thing i don't i don't either i don't want that. Let me just say, i am lesbian from san francisco and happy international has been dated tabby. And i have to tell you, i you may not realize it, but russia is our enemy. They really truly are. And you can talk to them. They are they absolutely are. They still has to didn't say you didn't have to speak to them, but you have to understand it is they are adversary, their absolute adversary i can't believe i'm more conservative than you on this, so you aren't more conservative i'm not someone who just had to put a ukraine flag in my in my years, as roe knows, i've been helping out substantially in that conflict so i'm trust me when i say to you, i'm more conservative than you. I want to end that. But the reality is, it will be a political solution. I think that's what's going to happen. I think you're both making correct points. I agree with you. They are the enemy and i agree with you. We do have to talk to them. I think the point trump has continuously made is i will command more respect from all parties involved. Than harris or that biden has and even in this woodward book, which were referencing today, biden is blaming obama for russia's aggressiveness in the first place. And so it would be reasonable for a person to read that and assume there is some dysfunction in the democratic ranks that is that is emboldening are making the putin feeling bolden about what he's doing. And trump is playing on that. He's saying what they respect me more. Therefore, i'm more capable of getting to a quick solution also where they think he's a doer. Well, i think that they invade there is a character question that is raised by all of this, just given trump's praise for putin his praise just generally for autocrats i, it does seem like trump just really likes vladimir putin and i wonder if that is something that voters should care about. Voters should weigh as they weigh their choices but the problem is he's offering no principles, no one's asking him for a specific plan. But the question is, are you you're going to rule out giving territory. Is there certain territory you rule out giving any what what are the general principles that you're offering. But here's where there's two different standards and it's because donald trump has been president. People are used to that and vice president harris has it. And so people say, oh, he's been president, give him the benefit the doubt, and harris has a higher bar. I mean, that's the reality of what happened in the campaign. If vice president harris wins the presidency. And i think scott, would agree with me. I don't want her to put a plan on the table for negotiation to get us out of world war iii. You don't want to put any of your cards on the table at the moment because you just don't know what it's going to look like. You know, what's gonna be a political solution? chen is the question about territory. Same thing. You don't know. I mean, realistically speaking on the ground, you're not getting russia that's not going to happen, but we do have to go. But i wonder if you say that and maybe i don't know if you agree with that, scott if you're just going to go off of kamala week, trump's strong. I mean, is that really a basis to evaluate people's foreign policy? you guys have both said that you think trump is going to go all about the country. I world war iii. On what basis are navy is sitting in the red sea is but basically being targeted practice for the houthis. On what basis do you say that trump is going to be the one to get this? let's get the four years of this president on the four years of his presidency where we had no new wars, where he was able to, i can tell you firsthand and rho i know you've been working on yemen for years. The houthi rebels wanted to negotiate with trump. I set up meetings for that they wanted to, you see what's happening now under bidenharris, we are navy years ever sitting in the red sea being target practice. I mean, you have for years of bidenharris and you have four years of trump and 40 policy you see where the world is totally american voter to you, by the way. I mean, they're evaluating some of this through what happened in afghanistan mean, let's be honest, that's when and in harris went underwater august of 2021. And there has been a real concern about their judgment on foreign policy ever since. So i think harris has a high bar, if only because we saw what happened in afghanistan when she said she couldn't think of one thing that she would have changed about biden the fact that she didn't say i wish we could have gotten a better outcome for those 13 soldiers. I do think that's in people's minds right now as they're making up their minds, okay. Everyone hang tight for us coming up next. 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Com be ultimately bundle just keeps getting better the beginning next bundle which is like nobody's even bothering to try to kill kamala because pointless tried to kill joe biden for some people interpreted it as as though he is calling for people to corps assassinate or but, but but i was like, i was like, no, we're even site doesn't seem strange that no one is even bothered to is elon musk laughing at his kind of joking about a hypothetical assassination of the sitting president and vice president. Yeah what is going. I'm sure it was funny when he told the employee employees he paid them, they laugh hysterically at his joke. He is ridiculous. What he's surrounded by it, or enablers who laugh at everything. He says. And therefore, either tweets it or he says it and right there he had another person, you know, sort of just washed up tv star who was lying i think it is joke, which isn't funny. And everyone who looked at it was same thing with the jump, awkward, weird, cringy and so he just doesn't have people around him to say anymore, anyone who was like that is been cut out of his life and everyone claps when he says, and now suddenly, i mean, he's kind of at the center of the universe the political conservative universe. He was at the butler rally, i think, which is what kara was talking about with trump on saturday jumping up and down bizarrely tension from trump, taking attention from trump, how did how did elon get here? and do you think that he should be where he is in terms of the influence that he has on your party right now? oh, i look, i think rich people often have influence in politics. It's not just in the republican party and the democratic party as well. We seem to be more concerned when billionaires or four republicans than we are when there for democrats. And they spent copious amounts of money to elect democrats cycle after cycle after cycle part of it is also elon's like sure, irrational we'd like he kind of instability. There's the argument that he occupies an outsized space in our culture because of x, formerly twitter, because of spacex, because i mean, he's into a lot of things that people were very interested. Now this comment, look, i've been as critical as anybody of what i think is the rhetoric around trump and his extremely dangerous and we can't joke about these things, okay? because there are crazy people in this world who hear these things. And i think they take it seriously. And so if we're going to look my view is if we're going to be upset and i am unhappy about the rhetoric around trump. I don't want any of this anywhere near kamala harris either because i think all these people deserve our protection from this kind of rhetoric that makes politicians something less than what they are, which is human beings. I appreciate you're saying that's gotten i think where the democrats starting to lose ilan was actually personal. We should have celebrated his contributions to electric vehicles even though he was against union is michigan stood up to unions? we should have said, look, starlink, great product that, that needs to be used. We should celebrate the fact that he's had the first commercial success of private people in space and wondering, and i think a lot of it was that we didn't celebrate it and he said you felt offended a lot of attention how i mean, i'm genuinely i'm curious. I mean, was there something do you think that thing? was the thing i got check that out at when he wasn't invited to that ev summit, he should have been invited. I i called the white house. I never call the white house. Yeah, i'm like, why didn't you invite him? he's very angry and in fact, i an interview with pete buttigieg at the time, who also was a little bit glib about it. And i was like, he's critically important in this sector. I think the union thing was the big deal of why they didn't invite them and they should've he deserved that credit for when people were tweeting out about his private flights and him taking a private plane. I'm sorry. I don't think democrats get blamed. Yeah. No. No. I'm just saying that. Look i i think he should stay off twitter certainly. Thank you. Shouldn't be making jokes about the vice president, but i think the democrats remember he was a supporter of obama bill clinton, obama had this and we are the party that is john f. Kennedy that is about innovation, that is about entrepreneurship. They didn't give a time. We should be celebrating that. There's a weird the union thing is such an interesting part of this. I want to play what sean o'brien, he's the head of the teamsters. What he's been saying about why democrats are losing some of these working class union voters i'm a democrat, but they have us over last 40 years and for once and not all of them, but for once we're standing up as a union, probably the only one right now saying what gives you down for us? yeah. I'm getting attacked from the left you know, we've given since i've been in office twoandahalf years, we've given the democratic machine 50. 7 million. We've given republicans about 340,000 troops. He told. So it's like, you know, people say the democratic party is a party of the working people. They've bought and paid for by big tech, that big those big tech company when he's here, i'd like to introduce you to elon musk, who is all into robotics. Are you kidding? elon and the rest, i mean, i don't know. I don't answer to the question. I just do know that democrats did bail out their pensions. We build up tensions. We stood up for the pro act, the right to organize. We stood up and i know sean and sean knows this that we stood up against automation on the big trucks in in california. But here's i think some of the frustration over the last 40 years. It's been a bipartisan consensus in many ways. Is that hollowed out manufacturing in this country, we saw small towns decimated. We've got so still move to china. And people are upset and some people blame everyone. Some people blame republicans, some people blamed the democrats. But i think democrats should start by saying that people made mistakes and we want to earn back that trust is a big text. I know. I'm at this point, can you really say that the democrats are the party? you the party of big tack at this point where i was going with my point, but sure. Maybe i mean, i think okay. I'll say that sure. Where the party of big tech i think though, the question i thought you were gonna ask me is that are we the party of the working class? and i want to just take a step back and say like, well, what is working class these days? and i think when people say that they mean white men in the middle of the country. And i think that then we should use a different descriptor and will because there are a lot of people who are working class that have from every different background. I also think for the teamsters to say to the congressman's point, we have stood behind labor where's trump on the picket line where's trump saving lordstown in my hometown where it close. It was on the verge of closing in youngstown, ohio. It was his policies that bank took that factory and it was it was the biden policies that brought it back. It was me. It was a biden policy. Brought chips, manufacturing i think that the problem is is that working class people feel like nope, party is really talking to them and they're looking for people that they can identify with. And it's not about policy, it is. When you sit here on the first segment and i'm not attacking you on this, but when you say, i don't see her as strong, i don't okay. But i want to have a real conversation with sure. It's my opinion what what black women do you see a strong and what black woman do you have in your life? it's not about right? i know plenty of strong black woman. It's not bring up the race the reason why i say is that is because we are human beings and the way we engage with things is by proximity. And if you've ever worked in, you know, that, you know that it's all about, you're saying go on the factory floor is because you want to connect to the human experience. And if you've never really connected to a strong black woman in your life, then maybe you don't actually understand what first of all, trump with elon musk joked about firing people and antiunion in his from them. That's one to democrats or republicans. Guess what? automation is coming, whether you like it or not, an elon musk is behind it. And reid hoffman behind it along with ai it's coming shone like i'm sorry to tell you just the way mechanized farming was coming, just the way information workers are going to be replaced in certain ways. And so it's not a democrat or republican at all. It's all of the rich people and they will in two seconds replace you with us, not just about it's not just about tack. I mean, you you sorry. Go ahead. I mean, you when president trump came into office is because you had this fraying of other post world war ii world order where you had had hollowed out middleclass across the country, black, white, brown didn't, didn't matter. Everyone who was, everyone was hollowed out. So trump was coming into office talking to those people. And the first major piece of legislation which was tax reform had incentives to bring capital back and manufacturing back. And since that first, first piece of legislation, every single major piece of legislation since then, democrat or republican has had in whether its chips or what have you have had incentives to bring manufacturing back? so both parties recognize that this is initiative than that these are the people that real quick. Yeah, i just wanted her labour. He doesn't support unions. He doesn't support what he backing class america, but i wanted to working americans get protected unions. We know that when, when working class people don't have the ability to negotiate when uaw went on strike because the ceos year after year of those big three car companies got raises and those individuals that were on the factory line that we're saying these candidates notably need to go talk to. They weren't getting raises after they had the bailout happened. Donald trump isn't doesn't care that their union is protecting them. Jill biden is the one who says we want them to have collective bargaining. When i was in ohio and they want it wisconsin. Scott walker wanted to get rid of collective bargaining. John kasich, ohio wanted to get rid of collective bargaining. Donald trump doesn't believe in collective bargaining, which is a core tenet of labor policy. So for the teamsters, which then would mean the teamsters would not exist janice i think just a matter that is very true, which is what makes this so bizarre. Scott, i know we really got to go if if it's true what you say that the democrats have been far more supportive. Why is it that kamala harris cannot secure the traditional union endorsements she'll also firefighters she lost the teamsters. She lost the fraternal order. Why is it that the big union organization, while the fraternal order of police didn't endorse joe biden either. The teamsters, the national didn't endorse either, but she got a collective 20 separate across the country are blows towards but that's what i'm saying is that, but it's not about the policy what about the connection like that undergird that we having to actually talk about, which is we need to unpack that. Why your segment? because there's a lot, there's a lot in that conversation. Everyone hold on for us coming up next one more month. Leaving or not before election day, governor tim walz says the electoral college, quote needs to togo. 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This is cnn tim walz says that the country needs to throw out how it does elections the democratic vice presidential nominee telling supporters mangling at gavin newsom's home, that quote, the electoral college, needs to go why? well, maybe it has something to do with the fact that democrats have been winning the popular vote in every presidential election cycle since 2008 is a time well that's the way we're going to get. It is the compact, which is every statement says we are going to vote for the popular vote winner and we get to, to 70. But let me say something before that it is an extraordinary moment in my view in this country that we have a indian american, african american woman who has at least a 50% chance of becoming president united dates and when i think of my upbringing in the 1980s, and i didn't even know. You can have an indian american in congress and you'll look at how far we've come. I think kamala harris is capable of winning any of these states in the midwest. I think she's capable of connecting and for a moment, we should celebrate how far this country has come. If this is what we call back at body language by the way, you're running to win the electoral college and you're out saying, well, maybe we ought to get rid of the electoral college. I look, i think this is an indication of just how far the democrats are straying from our norms. They want to pack the supreme court walz himself wants restrictions on the first amendment. He's trying to throw out the electoral college they want to eliminate the filibuster in the u. S senate, nor harm after norm after norm, apparently means nothing to this ticket. I think people ought to take notice. I mean, you're going to talk about yeah, overthrow the election on january where i sick. So there's a lot of norms. Think wants to acknowledge that, right? activate it, not just talked about, i'm just saying there's normal. I also think about norms and they're trying know that electoral college should be banned and should be abolished because i think that it doesn't allow for an accurate representation. When we know the history of the electoral college, it actually has racial undertones. It was put in play. I mean, it's true and so we are a country that can change, our rules and change our laws. That's why, that is what a democracy is about. I don't think we should do it in a haphazard way if it's a constitutional amendment or if it's dc statehood. But yeah, the electoral college should go and we shouldn't now, he did talk about what you're saying, which is that they have to go out and win the states and the electoral college because this election that's how it's going to be decided. Everyone stay with me coming up next. Our panel is here to give us their night caps including why one of trump's bromance is won't end well and then the next day our world change. 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I'd noted get easy access to all all of this would pull would you know what you got like coach across boehm added to string football without a satellite dish. Now, dropping, give me 2021 this guy can shoot he's got we got mattress? from mattress firm? so i slave happening now, save up to $600 on top brands and get a free justice buildings next year for only $20 a month x chair. Com. Laura coates, live next on cnn closed captioning brought to you by mesobook. Com if, you or a loved one have mesothelial will send you a free book to answer questions you may have call now and we'll come to you 808 to 14000 the news nightcap. You each have 30 seconds to say your piece got taylor, you, the newbie at the table here well, thanks for having me for sure. Mine was about iran. And when the vice president, so that was the greatest threat to the united states, that really caught my attention because i was like, okay, it's one of a couple of things here. One, she's misinformed to its to cover politics and political weakness in the region. Of course, our allies getting attack there or three, with all our assets in the region and with the turmoil, are we going to war with iran? like it really caught my, caught my attention when she said that, but that's my hot take, but i do want to give make sure by safe down in florida and the rest of the country in the hurricane's path as well as kudos, all those folks out there helping everybody and keeping them safe and alignment. Of course, yes, we are thinking about them in florida tonight and for the next couple of days as well, kara, briefly, we talked earlier about elon musk appearing at donald trump's rally in butler, pennsylvania. I think they're going to have a falling out some day because elon sucked up information from our greatest information spawn attention sponge with who is donald trump and there can be only one and donald trump is the one. And so i think he was a little wary and elon will be too loud for him eventually and it will be an ugly and to the bromance, it was very interesting to see them together scott jennings and my non cnn life. I have ever long longstanding professional association with a kentucky electric cooperatives and they sent me some pictures today and i wanted to give a shout out to the ten 10,000 coop lineworkers from about two dozen states who have descended on the area devastated by helene. These guys are working 16 hours a day to restore power. So some people curse the darkness. These guys literally light candles one line at a time. So thank you to the line workers of america that's amazing. I love that. Thanks, scott. Go ahead. Row. Well, thanks to them. I grew up outside philadelphia, is still a phillies fan. We didn't have a good night tonight to the mets, but my prediction is we win this series and we go to the world series. Two reasons wheeler is going to be on the mount on game gamefive and schwarber and harper are going to come through for us in the next two games. What did he just looking to, you know, the only lesbian sports heard your heart on that one as well, i grew up in the midwest and they used to say that you want a president that you could have a beer with and today amman in the spirit of a beer, scott, i love this so much she had a miller highlights the champagne of beers i love a prop. Everybody has a beer. Boomin, tears, sorry, abby, are still on the clock. Well, i do we know right. What now, seriously? do you had he had a comical moment. I haven't had one of these since college goes down a little different these days for you, karen not working i just had a badge back to high school people? severe side to show was very much a beer summit and shared here's to america water, which i think as everyone thank you very much. Thank you for watching newsnight state of the race. 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