Milton takes west coast my source tonight is the mayor of tampa, but they blunt warning for those who are staying behind plus vice president harris is kicking off a media blitz. What she just said it a new interview tonight about firing that glock that she owns and his israel is marking a somber anniversary. The number of antisemitic incidents here at home is off the charts. We're going to bring the latest data to tonight. I'm kaitlan collins, and this is the source debris from hurricane helene tonight, florida is now bracing for another monster storm hurricane milton is barreling toward florida's west coast with winds that are up to a mindboggling 180 miles per hour. This storm has exploded from a tropical storm to a category five in just 24 hours. Milton, as it is turning over that very warm water in the gulf coast, right now is more power kafle than any storm on this planet. This year millions of people across the tampa bay area are being warned to get out. Now most floridians, as we can see, are following suit jamming the highways and rushing to safer ground officials. There are preparing for one storm as some residents and other states are still unaccounted for or after helene, which has now killed 235 people in total you would think that sobering number would encourage world leaders to stick, to encourage our leaders here to stick to the facts. Given how many lives and livelihoods have been shattered but donald trump has continued to push outright false information, which vice president harris today blasted, is irresponsible information being pushed out there by the former president about what is available. It's extraordinarily irresponsible. It's about him, if not about you. And the. Reality is that fema has so many resources that are available to folks who desperately need them is harris was telling reporters about what fema is offering to those who are affected by these storms. She was also asked about reports that florida's republican governor is dodging her call false. Reporting governor desantis has ignoring your calls on hurricanes resources and help. How does that hurt the situation here moments of crisis, if nothing else it really the moment that anyone who calls themselves a leader i'm going to put politics aside people are need support right now and playing political games with this moment in these rights of emergency utterly here and it is about political gamesmanship that is doing the job that you put the people first now, governor desantis denied those reports and we are just learning tonight. He did speak with president biden a short time ago as he's made clear, his state has gotten what it needs from the federal government i didn't know she called me. I saw that, but i don't i was not aware of that the president has approved of what we asked for we're thankful for that. Everything we've asked for from president biden he is approved we'll have more on that. And the misinformation that we've been seeing spread by some officials today. But we're going to start tonight with a live update on when and where milton is expected to strike. I want to get right to cnn's chad myers, who is in the cnn weather center in chad. This became the strongest storm of the year anywhere on the globe. It just took a matter of hours what can you tell us about how strong it is right now and where it's headed in florida extremely warm water. Here's the yucatan peninsula, here's the bay of campeche. This is the gulf of mexico hundred and 80 mile per hour winds around the center of the core. Now, what i can find right now, because we have a hurricane hunter aircraft in it at this point, it's not getting any stronger and i bibi that's maybe tongue in cheek, but it is not it has been getting stronger, had been getting stronger all day long. Hour by hour. It got bigger and bigger and bigger. Now at least it's flattened out and hopefully by morning it'll flatten out some more. But from 50 to 180 miles per hour in 36 hours tropical storm warnings, hurricane warnings are already posted and you'll notice that hurricane warnings are almost all the way to the east coast of florida because hurricane conditions will be there. We're going to have major winds, major hurricane wins in this entire purple area from fort myers all the way up toward the last hurricane hit and hurricane winds all the way across orlando so to the east coast, the surge is going to be a big problem. This storm is going to carry 15 feet of search, and that's a problem because we've talked about the damage we saw the damage from the last storm and the surge with that storm was only six and seven even on up to her, it was really bad. Cedar key nine, but now now we're talking ten to 15. I know you're going to talk with the mayor of tampa. This is a big concern of his all the way from denied and all the way down to fort myers. This is going to be a major slosh of the ocean. Ten to 15 feet deep and some of those barrier islands are not going to be recognizable yeah. It's just a scary prediction. Obviously, we'll be watching it all closely. Chad myers, we'll continue to check back in with you as you're watching this. Thank you. My source tonight is the mayor of tampa, florida, jane castor, mayor castro. It's great to have you here. I know you have a lot going on what is your number one message to tampa residents tonight? the number one message as it has been for several days now, is that you need to prepare do whatever you need to do, and then get out of the evacuation zones, which now are evacuation zone a and b and as we all have heard, so so many times now you hide from the wind and run from the water and we are talking about right now the possibility of a direct hit would tend to 12 foot tidal surge put that in perspective, hurricane helene, which just left the tampa bay area a week ago there was six foot storm surge and that was literally devastating to so many in our coastal area. We 126 miles of coast just in the city of tampa so people need to be heeding that warning. And from the looks of traffic on omar northbound highways, they're doing just that. Yeah. We've seen how jammed up those highways are. I know a lot of the tolls have been suspended to help facilitate people getting out of there what would you say to people tonight who were saying, you know what? i'm going to ride this out. I've written others out. What would you say to people who aren't heeding those evacuation orders? well, i can tell you right now that they may have done that in others, there's never been one like this and this helene elaine was a wakeup call this is literally catastrophic and i can say without any drama to station whatsoever, if you choose to stay and what are those evacuation areas you are going to die wow. I mean that is an incredibly blunt message and i know you have a lot of experience dealing with these storms. You don't say something like that lightly, mayor i've never said that. In ten to 12 foot surge. I mean, if this takes a jog to the south, that's going to save us from the storm surge. But it stays on the track that it's projected to be on right now. Or if it goes a bit north, would be even worse. Some of the predictions are saying that pinellas county to the south of us, the entire county is going to be underwater so this is something that i have never seen in my life, and i can tell you that anyone who was born and raised in the tampa bay area has never seen anything like this before people need to get out and your message is just this isn't survivable this, if we have that predicted storm surge, it is not survivable. I can i guess you what that means for the general hospital there in tampa because it's on a bit of an island. There was actually this amazing thing that was used during helene the aquafence as it's known to stop the storm surge and it worked. But but from what i read, it said it can only stop out 15 feet of water. Are you worried that may not be enough for this storm? i am worried about that, but you know, it worked before that. It's not on a kind of an island hits on an island. They were silent. And of course that hospitals close to 100yearsold was built. There, wouldn't be built there under current conditions. But that aquafence really save that hospital so hopefully the engineering behind it continues to work where the weight of the water holds that fence down and keeps the water from coming in. But it is rated for 12 feet. So if we hit the storm surge, is that high tide hopefully that fence will hold and the surge will just go over the top of it we'll see what happens with that. Yeah. But they have all the patients are up higher on higher floors. But it certainly they would take out the electricity, the generators, and so forth at that location may or you're dealing with such serious matters here having to move hospital patients to higher floors in case of a big storm surge closing the tampa international airport. Obviously, a very busy airport, so many steps that you're taking and delivering this blunt message tonight i just i can't believe i have to ask this, but i do want to ask you if the misinformation that we've seen about storms and the federal response is getting in the way actually an effecting your disaster. Response as a city official it's not you know, that is just all noise out there. And it really is sad that individuals would stoop to that level it's to bring politics into something like this. President biden just called my cell phone less than an hour ago. To ensure that we had everything that we needed. The administrator for fema came here from north carolina where they are handling the issues up there flew into tampa, drove around with us and then went over to the barrier islands in pinellas county, st. Pete, clearwater we have the resources from the federal government governor desantis, kevin guthrie, the emergency manager. They are on top of it. Everyone is working together to make sure that we keep our communities as safe as we possibly can during this event. Yeah. Just seeing how urgently you're working to clean it from one storm and prepare for the next mayor we're thinking of everybody in tampa hoping everyone stays safe. Thank you for taking the time to join us tonight. Thank you. Kaitlan. I appreciate it it. And as we've reported here on the source on friday, a lot of the misinformation about the federal government's disaster relief efforts is being unleashed by none other than the former president and a new interview on fox news, trump repeated that again, saying at one point that storm victims were only getting 700 50 bucks from fema so we're in almost $300 billion for ukraine and yet they're offering people $750 for immediate me or the worst but for the worst hurricane that anybody seen i want to bring in cnn's chief media analyst, brian stelter and brian that port there at the end. I mean, it is only for immediate needs. Its if you need to get baby formula, water, food. And the next immediate timeframe, it if you're one of these people who's had your house completely destroyed by this. But this is catching on this $750 dollars thing that that's all of these victims in north carolina and these other states you're getting it's just not true, but your explanation took a few sentences and it's cheaper and easier for donald trump to lie about it. Thankfully, fema is fighting back. They have a rumor control page at fema. Gov, but the people who most need to read it are the ones who won't believe it. And this is the unfortunate result of decades and decades of why in about government of eroding trust in institutions. Of course, we should all be skeptical of the government. We should all hold government accountable. But there's been so much destruction of truth and trust that we're at the point now where people would rather believe anonymous, probably four propaganda actors on x than they would actually believe their local government officials but they're looking at actual government officials who are also spreading this. I mean, it's marjorie taylor greene, the congresswoman from georgia know that they would they do control the weather. She said they control the weather. She posted this tonight, this meme or not even a meme, i guess i wouldn't call it it says they can't control the weather and then she listed which of patents underneath it as if that is evidenced that someone is controlling the weather. And i think some people might see this and say, oh, that's marjorie taylor greene. Of course. She's spreading conspiracy theory. There is a very famous meteorologist in alabama, james span. Everyone follows him. Everyone looks to him when something's happening that he it did post earlier today was essentially, please stop sending me these conspiracies about the government controlling the weather and they created this hurricane because all that garbage is overwhelming. His inbox and he can't help share what his true meteorologists including government meteorologists at the national hurricane center are going to save lives in the next few days. And marco rubio the senator from florida, who on friday was tweeting about the fake jobs report, sowing doubt about the government statistics today, he is imploring his constituents to believe the government forecasts to take the government information seriously, to believe the government data what a difference three days mix from marco rubio and he is supposed to be one of the more responsible ones. I mean, that's ultimately what's so frustrating here. Kaitlan, as we see these government forecasters and these broadcast meteorologists trying to save lives. I spoke with a person donald carolina on saturday, a public information officer and rutherford county who said that debunking all these lies has quote, consumed resources that could have been more effectively utilized in the recovery efforts and what i'm afraid is that we are seeing the same thing now with hurricane milton. We're seeing the same lies starting to spread. And we're going to see an actual human toll as a result yeah, it's a scary thought as we're watching all of this, brian stelter, thank you for keeping up with that up next, vice president harris just appeared on 60 minutes where she was pressed on immigration. And she also revealed more for about that gun that she owned including the time when she has fired, it, will bring you that here in a moment. Also, on this october 7, israel is marking a year of anguish and war. 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Do you think she answered that question in the right way? that's sufficient to voters who do have questions about why the biden administration didn't act sooner for so she's taking the tough questions and three followups. Here's the reality elie president biden came to congress for a comprehensive immigration reform on day one of his presidency. Now he waited for three years because congress enact, you can argue, well, maybe he should have done it sooner, but the problem is he wanted congress to go first and he was really hoping to get a bipartisan deal. And of course that bipartisan deal that was later craft did trump saying, which is what she often points to. But but kevin, when you look at that and that answer, i mean immigration is one of the number one concerns voters have and trump often does better in polling than she does on this issue. So i think it is a question of how she talks about this on campus i think that's right. And i think one of the reasons that trump wins on this issue q. Is because he has such resolve. He has such a calcified opinion about what exactly he thinks is wrong with the border and how he's going to fix it oftentimes we all agree that he fall short on specifics on the policies on that. But because he has so has such resolve that's why he wins. I think one of the problems with the answer that vice president harris has here, and she's had this in many of her interviews, is that she comes off as very irritated by even seeing the questions, by even having the field the questions. And then as a result, i think she's sort of kind of meanders a little bit and ends up spending more time explaining rather than really focusing on the hard truth that or the policies that she hopes the brain to fix. The problem. I think she lacks she lacks an ability to really, really gain some credibility with voters by approaching it that way. Is that how you saw it, sara, that she was a little defensive on the question. I do. This is not her winning issue. Her winning issue is women's rights and abortion. So anytime she gets the chance to talk about that, you can see her light up. She has a personal story to tell about it and to including what inspired her to go after this issue as a prosecutor, she's obviously winning in terms of the polls with women right now. So that's where she feels most comfortable. I think one of the other issues though with that question is that she's constantly be sort of being asked to go through congress or she mentioned, well, this is an issue that we're going to have to work through congress, but her track record in her release leadership of getting things done through congress isn't so robust. It's not something that we hear about a lot. You don't hear people on the hill talking about how closely they're working with kamala harris or how close they even were with her as a senator because he wasn't there for super long. And so that's going to be a challenge for her every time she leans, she answered this with a tax question to cbs. Every time he says, i'm going in through congress house she was played a decisive role in getting the inflation reduction act passed. The american rescue plan passed. I mean, she was calling me is she was calling members of congress to get the agenda through. So i do think that she deserves credit for some of the relationships and on the tax question, i mean, she's calling for more specifics than donald trump no one's asking how he's going to get mexico to pay for his wall and what she's pointing out is that federal revenue right now is 17% of gdp. It traditionally has been up to 20%. They have a concrete plan how to raise the revenue, getting corporations to pay tax from overseas? yeah, of course. If she does have a republican house and maybe a republican senate, that's going to be even tougher question for those plans. But she was also asked about what she said before. She said it actually first in a cnn town hall in 2019, but she's been repeating it as she is trying to appeal to these more moderate voters disaffected conservatives about her gun ownership. And she was pressed on the specifics of that in this interview. Here's what she had to say about her glock when and why did you get it? i have a glock and i've had it for quite some time and i mean, look at my background in law enforcement and so there you go. Have you ever fired it? yes of course at a shooting range? yes, of course, i have i mean, that is not the democratic answer. You would always expect for a democrat to be touting that they own a glock. They've been to the shooting range and used it. What do you make of her tactic? well, i think it comes off as somewhat inauthentic look, and i have i'm having flashbacks right now because i worked for mitt romney who tried to appeal to a lot of second amendment gun owners by saying he was a hunter you know, a hunter throughout his life and to tell you the truth, gun owners, people who really care about the second amendment issue, i think on the one side, the gun on her side. They only care that you're not going to take that right away from them. I think on the other side of this where you have more moderate centrist gun owners who believe in second memo rights, but also they want to see a tremendous amount of focus on safety also, the research that drives the best safety solutions when it comes to policy. But when you talk about it through the terms of what i have a glock and so therefore, i am i'm just like, you i think it falls flat and it doesn't really resonate with a lot of voters. Do you think it fell flat, congressman? i think she's being honest. She's not pretending to hunt. I mean, this is not john kerry that stopped going trying to be someone he wasn't. I mean, that's why we lost a the campaign you're in. This is just for being honest. She has been talking about this since he was a senator in california since i've known her, she has a gun. It's a glock. She was asked what else is she supposed to say? sara. I also have to ask we're listening to vice president harris in this interview. It is tradition before an election that 60 minutes sits down with both candidates and trump did sit down with them in 2020, but he walked out of the interview. We actually reported halfway through because he was upset with leslie stalls questioning they backed out of an interview last week, the trump campaign disputed that they had backed out, but but scott pelley actually read text messages from trump officials and said this was why they were told trump was not coming on the show. The campaign offered shifting explanations. First, it complained that we would fact check the interview. We fact check every story later, trump said he needed an apology for his interview in 2020 trump claims correspondent lesley stahl said in that interview that hunter biden's controversial laptop came from russia. She never said that i mean, it's pretty remarkable to see how they handle this, but they had to, because if you're a news organization nowadays, trust in news is at an alltime low. The number one thing you can do to regain trust is to be transparent as transparent as you can without breaking any sort of violating any sort of source agreements if they had said this is off the record, that'd be one thing they clearly didn't. Cbs has the right curly. They value view their trust. I mean, kevin trump would have gotten a huge audience from this these interviews garner a lot of viewers if he's not doing another debate. I mean, do you think this was a missed opportunity for donald trump? i don't. I mean, donald trump has 110% name id right now. He's talking to the voters that he's already wants to talk to. And so i don't think a missed opportunity but he was 60 minutes. I think if anything, he sends a message to his base voters that again, he's on the attack against the media and they love that. Thank you all for being here up next we're going to speak to a senator about her issues that she's facing as she's in a very competitive race. 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What's your response to that look, trump wants this as a political issue for his campaign i know you're talking about in the previous segment, but we could have had in place for months now a bill that would have brought 50 ten 1,000 new border patrol agents to the southern border this was a bipartisan measure drafted in large part by one of the most conservative republican senators and it would also have brought in technology to help us scan nearly all the vehicles that come in to be able to interdict more of the illicit fentanyl. This was a very important, this was about solving problems and in stead, trump and my republican opponent eric have d, i wanted this as a political issue that they could run on rather than pursuing real solutions. Well, and it made me think of something that he said when he was in your home state of wisconsin yesterday i want everyone to just listen for those who missed the trump rally to this comment today, i make this promise. I will liberate wisconsin and our entire nation from this mass migration invasion of murder child drug gang members and could it be liberal standing up and cheering as he says that the wisconsin that, you know, look like wisconsin that donald trump is describing there no. But i hear him talk about liberation. I think about all the women in the state of wisconsin that have fewer rights and freedoms than their mothers and grandmothers we have an abortion ban, criminal abortion ban that was passed in 18, 49, in effect because of the dobbs decision. If we need liberation, we need to return to we need to codify and pass my women's health protection act, which is the bill that would codify roe v. Wade. That's what we need in terms of liberation in state of wisconsin trump's been in wisconsin eight times in the last four days. Or four times, i believe in the last eight days, he is going to some democratic strongholds when he's making stops there. You said recently that you're confident that there are trump tammy voters, obviously referring to people you believe will split the ticket between voting for donald trump voting for us senator, who there's a lot of people i think that would be curious. Who are those voters well, i would say just this this week i got the endorsement of the wisconsin farm bureau. It's the first time in almost 20 years that they've endorsed a democrat but i know a lot of dairy farmers who may prefer trump at the top of the ticket, but have seen my work to pass the dairy business innovation act and to make their bottom line a huge priority for me. I know folks one of the issues that i worked very hard on in the senate is getting by america rules attached to things like the infrastructure, bill. And there are jobs that have come back to wisconsin because of that. Now, trump talked about by america all the time. He didn't get much done on it i'm getting stuff done and i think there's some workers who realize that and we'll cast. They'll split their tickets. I do not believe that's going to be a huge number. And in my race, it's tightening so much in these final weeks we see polls cook political report making agnetha twopoint race and switching me to a tossup, switching to a tossup state. And their national republicans are seeing that mitch mcconnell is putting $17 million in the closing days into the state of wisconsin. And my opponent, who's a multimillionaire, has already spent about them 30 million of his own wealth is also doing that. So we're going to be really outspent in this last period of time but we're fighting a, we got the people. Yeah. Well, you mentioned your opponent and he has really worked to link you to president biden to vice president harris, given how you are saying those numbers and between the two of you shrink so much, do you believe that has played a role in how tight your races right now? i think people in wisconsin know that i fight for wisconsin and i will work with presidents of either party as i did on by america with both president trump and president biden. But i will also stand up to presidents of either party if it means we can help advance issues that it helped my constituents senator tammy baldwin. Thank you for your time tonight thank you for having me both the campaigns are marking today the first anniversary of october 7 vice president harris planting a tree outside her home in washington to symbolize the resilience of the jewish people. This comes as the antisemitic incidents here in the united states have soared to a record highs. 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Push are invested in and the chance to the moon at etrade from morgan stanley i'm erin burnett in israel, and this is cnn it's been more than a year since the horrific october 7 attack by hamas on israel the searing pain and grief from that day is still fresh for so many people gathered across israel today to remember the deadliest attack on the jewish pupils since the holocaust or than 1,200 people were killed that day and 250 were taken hostage. Right? now, more than 100 of them are still being held today. Grieving families protested outside the home of the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, calling for their release. Others gathered at the site of the nova music festival attack listening to the last song that their loved ones heard before everything abruptly stopped amid a moment of silence. The scream grieving mother could be heard that so many people still feel today and right now with no ceasefire or hostage deal in sight, prayers have become a source of comfort, including here in the united states at the white house perhaps for the first time ever this morning, the traditional morning prayer. L melee rameen was read in hebrew in the quiet of the residents, the white house many of you know, god for mercy. Grant rest on the wings of the divine greenblatt, the ceo and national director of the antidefamation league. That was jake sullivan, the national security advisor who doesn't often get choked up and you have new data that i want to talk about. But first how are you reflecting on today yeah, i think this is a solemn day for all of us. I mean, to think about what happened october the seventh could have been any normal day. And to imagine a world in which 1,200 people were butchered and tortured and murdered the houses of people were injured. And what's interesting is there hasn't been any respite since that day since october the seventh. This explosion of hate in america and around the world since october the seventh, while we're trying to mourn while we're trying to grieve. We've seen these activists staging what they call protests. They're more like mob scenes all over the country. So i think the jewish community feels under siege. I mean, we had the russia shawna holiday last week and in every synagogue in america, kaitlan, you have to walk through metal detectors. You have to walk past armed guards just to get inside. I mean, that isn't normal. And i've had parents telling me about how they're encouraging their children to change their names and their uber profiles. So they don't sound jewish i've had, wow, i've had college students tell me they're putting away their stars of david or taking them off their door. So no one knows their faith. I mean, the world in which jews have to hide in the closet, have to push down their identities that's not the america that i grew up in. And i don't think we should tolerate that. And when you say no moment of of peace or even anything, i really felt the only moment was when the ceasefire deal happen and that was last november, and hostages were released and that was that was the only moment it felt like the numbers that you're looking out about what's happening here in the u. S. Is really dramatic. It shows a 10,000 antisemitic incidents between a year ago today and the end of september, that it was 3,300 incidents the year before that. I mean, imagine that imagine after literally the most violent antisemitic attacks since the holocaust, we then had a tsunami they've antisemitic violence literally triple the number of incidents over the same period of time. That's it's extraordinary. And again, i think this should be a moment to mourn and to grieve. I mean, imagine if after 911 we had hundreds of protests around the country against america in for alqaeda, that's basically what we're seeing here. And look, i want a ceasefire deal. I want peace between israel and the palestinians. I believe there is a, there is a future in which if both sides don't have some degree of dignity and equality, it's got to happen. But today on october the seventh, this is a day to grieve the jews and the christians and the muslims, the israelis and the bedouin and the people of all different nationalities who were slaughtered on that day. And that we're not even allowed to do that. That we're told we have to equivocate. I think it's really and just thinking since that day, all the palestinians who were killed as a result of what hamas did. And looking at this, i do want to ask you, because this has entered politics as we are in the homestretch of this presidential race. Trump said last month that any jewish voters that vote for harris should have their head examined. Yeah, but but i just want you to listen to what he said today about this. Nobody's done more for the jewish people than i have nobody's and more for asia as a president, maybe beyond being a president to be issued, get 100% of the jewish vote. And i doubts it's amazing. October 7 never would have happened if i was there i mean, he's also said that if he doesn't win, the jewish people have a lot to do with it. Yeah, look like i think there's no question that when he was in office, he did things like the abraham accords that were incredibly important for the region and was putting it on the path to peace and now things seem to have unraveled. On the other hand, i think october the seventh isn't something that he or president biden or any one person could have stopped unless we're talking about the government of israel. So there are real questions to ask about how october 7 happened. The real questions asked the idf and the israeli intelligence but today on this day, it's not about president trump or vice president harris. It needs to be about the victims remembering what happened to them and focusing on that los yeah. And just their pain. Jonathan greenblatt. Thank you for coming on tonight. Up next it is one of the more explosive claims that we saw last week when that massive filing came out from this special counsel, jack smith, it was the quote, make them riot. We've now uncovered who it was from donald trump's campaign that said that about a michigan in polling place moderate to severe ulcerative colitis or crohn's disease after a tnf blocker like humira or remicade, put them in check with folk revoke works differently and it's a oncedaily pill when symptoms tried to take control, i got rapid relief within vote. Yes. There's drive to slow me down. I got lasting steroid free remission in with red book check. 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It campaign employee agent and coconspirator of donald trump tried to sow confusion when the ongoing vote count at the tcf center in detroit, michigan looked on favorable for trump there when a colleague at the tcf center told person five, we think batch of votes heavily in biden's favor is right person five responded, find a reason it isn't give me options to file litigation and quote, even if it's bs is that conversation was happening on election night 2020, crowds were gathering and police officers were standing guard in front of the rooms where those ballots were being counted. You can see it here. According to the special counsel, when it was suggested that there was about to be unrest in detroit person five responded, make them riot and do it with three exclamation points. Meanwhile, civil servants were working throughout the night just trying to do their jobs and make sure every vote was properly counted angry trump supporters were venting their frustrations just feet away, banging on the glass, taunting and yelling at them. Happening as crowds were forming and they were spurred on by online lies about the election report tonight that according to a source familiar with the matter person five is mike roman he was trump's director of election day operations i should note a spokesperson for the special counsel's office declined to comment further roman's attorneys did not immediately respond to our inquiries either. My source tonight is the michigan secretary of state, jocelyn benson. Thank you so much for being here. I just wonder what you make of the fact that someone who was directly employed by the trump campaign was sending messages like this, encouraging them to make people riot yeah, well, it's clear that there is a direct line between the trump campaign and an intention to incite violence outside the very place where a poll workers and observers from both parties were observing a process of counting valid votes. And it's chilling because it underscores both. I believe, knowledge and intent to create disruption and a recognition that that regardless of the results or even with knowledge that the election had been lost at that point, there would be an intention to keep pushing a lie in a way that was intended to not just disrupt the counting of valid votes, but the peaceful transfer of power in our country does it scare you for this election to see what was actually being said behind the scenes. It does. It's scared us in that moment to see everything unfold. It's chilling now because it's a reminder that the 2020 election is behind us. Everything that we were up against in 2020 is not and the 2024 election could very well be a resurgence of these same types of tactics, perhaps even more virulent and more vitriolic and more sophisticated even than what we dealt with in 2020, were prepared both in michigan and in pennsylvania and arizona and nevada. We've been preparing for this election since 2020, knowing what we could be up against based on what we experienced then. But it's still very scary. It's so still very chilling and it's really sad that we can't have a system where both sides recognize the validity of the people's will and will stand by it even if they disagree with it. You're the secretary of state, but but could mike roman be prosecuted potentially for this? well, that remains to be seen. I think that's certainly what the special counsel's filing and i think the genesis process will play out in the months ahead. But i think it's important in this moment also a month out, less than a month out from the november 5 election for all of us, the american people people to recognize the for accountability and the potential for accountability at the ballot box, even if and when legal accountability plays out, the american people can still look at these facts and these allegations as well and make their judgment and hold people accountable for trying to overturn their will, their voices and that's what i believe needs to be front and center in all voters minds, regardless of political affiliation in the weeks ahead yeah, it's just so remarkable to see that it's a campaign official when someone's telling them legitimate ballots, they look like they're the right ones for another candidate. And instead of just accepting that loss, that fair instead fighting back against it secretary jocelyn benson, thank you for joining us tonight thanks for having me and thank you all so much for joining us. 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