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To be back after a couple of weeks off, but i mean, what a time to be back election day, as i said, its just one month away israel could strike iran at any moment that could be a seismic event. And at a sensitive time in us president ial and in this moment, Vice President harris, shes stepping up outreach to Arab American and muslim voters last night she met with Community Leaders in michigan as shes trying to shore up support with Palestinian Americans reeling from the war in gaza. And now Lebanese Americans are distressed by the bombardment of beirut both groups are concerned about us support of israels government. And both groups make up a critical demographic, specifically in the Battleground State of michigan while i was iii is one of the Community Leaders who met with Vice President harris hes the ceo of Emgage Action. Its an organization aimed at boosting the muslim american vote. And they have endorsed the harriswalz campaign. Thank you so much for meeting with me this morning. Lets talk about your meeting with Vice President harris. It was slated to last ten minutes, went for 20 explain what was the asked. And did you get any commitments thank you so much for having me on. Obviously, these president ial elections are especially difficult moment for ebonite cans, Muslim Americans Lebanese Americans Palestinian Americans, Israeli Americans and they asked was to bring this war to an end. Many experts, including many community members, have warned the biden administration that the longer this war continues, and it has hasa, the more likely its going to escalate and become a regional war that that could potentially drag the united states into another Middle Eastern war. And we are on the brink of that and so are our first and most important ask was for the Vice President in her current capacity or should this work continue . And she would win and become commanderinchief is to bring this war to an end. That was the most important ask the second asked west to bring immediate alleviation to both the palestinian and lebanese people there are over 80,000 american citizens who are stuck in lebanon right now and need urgent support, as well as perhaps evacuation you told one of my colleagues that you want harris to commit to ending the war, as you said, no, to show distance from President Biden. But she is the sitting Vice President. I mean, you do what whats the expectation of how shell show that distance while staying loyal to the president , that put her on the ticket. Well, im im a former State Department official. Im very aware of the constraints on someone like the Vice President , and we appreciate that, however words matter, and we think she has done that. She is the highest us official of call for a ceasefire repeatedly she skipped the address of israeli prime Minister Netanyahu and essentially rebuked him and his policies following her meeting with him so theres a lot that you can do and say particularly regarding the need for the united states, perhaps a future harriswalz administrations bringing into compliance us military assistance to any country looting israel, to us domestic and international humanitarian law. And really invigorating the political track to bring this war to an end through diplomatic means let me read something here to you. This is from James Zogby, a cofounder of the Arab American institute, also a democratic national Committee Member he said about this meeting there with lebanon in flames. Theyve got a bigger job and i dont think theyre ready to handle it its sort of like trying to sell a car to somebody with terminal cancer. What are you talking for . I have bigger things on my mind right now, rejected an invitation to this meeting. Whats your reaction to his . Saying . Why are we talking about this well, we have great respect for jim. Hes a long Community Activists and really a paragon in or arabamerican community. And i understand that frustration. I myself skipped the meeting with President Biden few months ago after i had met with him in october with other muscle its leaders understand the frustration, but the fact of the matter is that either Donald Trump or Kamala Harris will be Commander In Chief next year. And we truly believe that theres absolutely no pathway with Donald Trump. And ouR Best hope to advance the antiwar objectives, as well as protecting our collective rights not, not to mention our democracy is by supporting the Harris Ticket and we must be engaging with her and her team to inform them, educate them, and yes, put pressure on them . Yes. Your Endorsement Announcement the line that stood out to me and i read the entire announcement to prevent trump from returning to the white house, Emgage Action is endorsing Vice President Kamala Harris and governor Tim Walz are president and Vice President. I mean, you referenced trump twice as many times as you referenced Kamala Harris in the announcement James Zogby says that she was just checking a box by meeting with you. She said shed listen. Do you feel like she was just checking a box . I really did not. And i dont think anyone in that meeting did we met with her along with her arab and muslim Outreach Directors have worked so hard to engage the community, but also to channel are feedback are concerns, and are disappointment back to the campaign. See more. We want to hear more. And i i truly believe the Vice President when she said that, not only does she care, but that she will do whatever she can once she is in office to bring this war to an end. We do believe her. We have no option but to believe her and pushed her to fulfill that promise alright. While i was i thank you so much foR Being with me. So all this, we also this week, a measure of justice for the family of Tyre Nichols was beaten to death in january those 20233 former Memphis Police officers could spend up to 20 years in prison afteR Being convicted in Federal Court this week now we remember the video from just last year. The office has punched and kicked nichols after a Traffic Stop beaten with pitons Autopsy Results show nichols died from blows. He suffered that night all three of them were convicted on charges of witness tampering related to the cover up after the beating. But Tadarrius Bean and Justin Smith acquitted of the Civil Rights charges joining me now for their first Television Interview since those verdicts are rowvaughn and rodney wells, Tyre Nichols, mother and stepfather, also with us, their attorney, Ben Crump. Thank you all foR Being back with me mrs. Wells, let me start with you first right after the verdict, you he said outside the courthouse that you were in shock. Youve now had a couple of days for this verdict to sit with you. What do you feel this morning having a Yes Appeal like a lightweight has been lifted up on my shoulders it was good to actually hear some type of guilty verdict in order to relieve some of the stress that ive been carried him for the last two years so if it feels good right now mr. Wells, rodney wells, what is there some disappointment there that all three were not convicted of the most serious charges that would have potentially ended with him spending the rest of their lives in federal prison but again we feel vindicated with them getting sentence at all. Oh, i see no courtroom by the marshals, was a big relief for our family i have seen some of our Kids Smile and months and so regardless of whether they got charged with Civil Rights offenses just to see, theyll get charged with something was great for the family Ben Crump only one of the three was convicted of deprivation of Tyree Nichols Civil Rights causing bodily injury for excessive Force And Failure to intervene and deliberate indifference. What does this portend for the State Case if anything . To understand that Jury Deliberation and what this verdict meant. It meant that three of the officers, martin, a late and mills, who they thought did the most beaten of this brutal killing of Tyre Nichols was all geared to two of them play. And haley was found guilty and they thought the other two who have hold his legs and arms and punched was also guilty of conspiracy, which is Cruise Ship because it meant that these Police Officers conspired and lied about trying to cover it up what our Community Walz first and foremost, its transparency and trust. When they do so that they would be held accountable. But if we got to be able to get to the truth of it. And so the verdict was very important. And its going to be important about the senate said, now that theyve all been found guilty and asked mr. Mrs. Wells said, nobody goes spree, that was very important to them because it sends a message. And the State Attorney has said they are watching the Sentence And Victor and they are theyre not sentence. What they feel appropriately. They are ready to bring this Seconddegree Murder charges against these killers and they all Appointment Finger at each other so all of them have confessed to different things that not only helped with the state criminal charges but really on the civil case. So Tyre Nichols can get full justice mrs. Wells i remember watching an interview you did live here on cnn. This was the day that these officers were charged, but it was before we all saw the video right. And you were talking with don lemon. It was live on cnn. And you said something that morning that struck me and he stayed with i want to play it for you now and then see if you feel the same. So many months lateR Black Police Officers did to our family they did to their own families. They have put their own families in harms way. They have brought shame to their own families they brought shame to the black community sorry for them. I really do. I really feel sorry for them you felt sorry for them that day after what weve all watched on the video and what youve learned in the investigation and the trial, do you still feel that 20 months later . I do still feel sorry for the nothing has changed they have children. Their families have been mean, this was a tragedy all the way around. We heard testimony that one Has An autistic child, one Has An 11yearold Child Grandson wont be able to see his father ever again, but theyre children will probably see them again but i do feel the same way. This was just a tragedy all the way around. And a lot of families were affected by this. And yes, it did hurt our communities because we never thought in 1 Million years that we would see by Police Officers, by black Police Officers beating up anotheR Black person and so it was a shock and yes, i do feel hearing. You say that and even today, im struck by your ability to still have compassion for those officers and for their families after what we all watched and what weve learned in the case rowvaughn wells, rodney wells, attorney Ben Crump. Thank you all foR Being with me i hispanic community in tennessee is reeling after an alarming incident during Hurricane Helene employees at a Plastics Factory say as the flooding started they were not allowed to leave. And one of our reporters just came back from that scene. Hell join us to explain whats happening next plus, ill speak think to the Mother And Sister of Amber Thurman, whose death is putting a new spotlight on abortion rights. Their reaction to her name being invoked as the Vice President ial debate. And throughout about this president ial campaign, also a new development in this Case Week and ask questions like what does a Comedy Show doing on cnn too much but i want donald now, can you slice that i got news . 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Tv on the Edge Tomorrow at nine on cnn so lets start by just establishing that all of the damage and the loss of life caused by Hurricane Helene is tragic so we understand that, but the accusations against a company in tennessee may be one of the more disturbing stories to come out in the aftermath as a company that owns a Plastics Factory, its now under investigation because workers say they were not allowed to leave when the flooding started 11 workers were swept away the five were rescued, four are still missing, and two of the people confirmed dead were mexican, according to an Immigration Group there, one of the victims was Bertha Mendoza originally she called Me In The Morning saying son its getting out is pretty ugly outside. Dont go outside. Make sure not to take my grandchildren outside. She goes care to do that whenever she felt like it just wasnt good weather. So that was my first calmer my first and last conversation with my mother i lost oh, my mother my grandmother, my children my father lost his wife of 38 years of marriage out we are not okay Cnns Gustavo valdes went to erwin, tennessee this week. Hes back here obviously with this now. Thanks for coming in to share the story with us, is the allegation here is that the managers wanted to keep them there to keep working through the storm. So at the very least, there might be a communication or a meaning of the communication because a lot of the people we talked to and the people in the community told us that they felt like they were not allowed to go until it was too late. Yesterday. The ceo of the company, Impact Plastic released a Video In which he said that theyre investigation showed that employees had about an hour to be able to depart safely, starting at around 1035 until 11, a. M. When the last walkthrough through the factory happen . However, in talking with the mayor and the city manager, they said that by 1020 that same morning, they were already responding to an Emergency Up River at the hospital where they were having evacuation. So that is what its going to be part of the the state and federal investigation as to what happened with the timing. They do say that the waters rose really fast. Now, you were there obviously speaking to members of the community. What did you hear when you were there . A lot of unit is a small town that has been growing because new industry like the Plastic Factory is coming in new workers having establishing residents in this erwin, tennessee for about 25 years when the first Migrant Workers and by migrants, i dont mean imMigrant Workers deserve people who change from state to state depending on the season, decided that this was a good place to raise a family and they have grown the community and now they are the base that base for the city and the mayor recognizes that what we want to tell our hispanic citizens is that they are part of, as we are one people and thats what i tried to explain to them and i know that they understand that there are part of us and we love them and are Countrys Motto is outcome one. And thats exactly what im trying to do as mayor. And thats why im here and we really saw that during a candlelight vigil. We we saw a very diverse community come out. They all cried the prayed when the names of the six victims were called out and everybody said present as a show of solidarity. So everybody is rallying around the community there. They are trying to make sure that they know they have the support of the community and that they will be there after the mayor said after the cameras and the federal and state officials leave, they will rebuild together yeah. Important is to see this community coming together, not just as migrants coming in and people who have lived there long time, but as one erwin, tennessee, gustavo, thanks so much. All right. Hurricane helene victims across multiple states. The a lot of help right now for more information on how to help go to cnn. Com impact there is a new development in the death of Amber Thurman, i should say, she is the woman in georgia owned the president ial candidates say was a victim of The End of roe v. Wade her family is now suing over her death. 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Amber thurman discovered that she was pregnant with twins just after Georgia Sixweek Abortion ban went into effect in 2022 now, she had a medication abortion, but developed well up to rare complication, she died after waiting 20 hours for a hospital near atlanta to treat those complications are joining me now, are shut williams, cj williams, and andrivka thurman, ambers Mother And Sisters. I thank you all foR Being with me and let me start with you. This lawsuit now that you filed comes in the context of a political season thats focused on the change in the law do you believe your daughter died because of the law oR Because of the negligence of those Doctors Judge struck down the States Sixweek Ban that doctors prevented them, they say from helping your daughter . Whats your reaction to The End of that banned here in georgia heartbroken angry because years later its going to work for someone else in which im happy for that but im sad because my daughters not here said at the top has now become part of the national conversation about The End of roe v. Wade. And there are some people who retreat from that and dont want to be part of the conversation. You are you are did an event with Vice President harris and oprah winfrey. Why is it important for you to speak out in the political arena about this as well . Because it affected me, it affected my daughter and shes not here because of these issues. When i everything changed and you talked about when that Propublica Reporter came to your door and initially, you didnt want to engage no. Told me why. Because that was private for me the grief the motions, everything as parents, as a family that weve endured. Why would i want to publicize it . That, you know this has been extremely hard. I can imagine actually there what i say that but i cant imagine because im not a parent. And i also dont know what it feels like to have that type of loss . And now to have people youve never heard of using it as a political angle. What does it feel like when you hear your Sisters Name . Invoked in this political conversation is sad to me and it makes me angry because politics should neveR Be mixed with Health Care decisions that doctors have to make so it makes me angry portion of the president ial debate. Your Daughters Name came up and i want your reaction to it. This is Senator Jd Vance Republican Nominee for Vice President weve got to do so much better of a job at earning the american peoples trust back on this issue, where they frankly just dont trust us and i think thats one of the things that Donald Trump and i are endeavoring to do. I want us as a republican party to be profamily in the fullest sense of the word Amber Thurman should still be alive there are a lot of people who should still be alive, and i certainly wish that she was whats your reaction, what you heard there i dont have a reaction all of this honestly, it does make me angry all of this is too late my daughter is gone woods. It does not help as a mother, it does not help her father. It does not help her son. It does not help her sisters. It does not help our family were left Sisters Name invoked politically again, ive said theres some people who want it to be separate and there are some who say, let this be an opportunity to save another life. What do you feel and think . Im just angry heartbroken trusting in the doctors to take care of her and telling her that she will be okay you know, and that she was in good hands its just heartbreaking, devastating, and its like were replanning her funeral all over again. Its like we just lost her just again yesterday is set for nauta feel like she was taken away from us and instead of just passing a way. I feel like its a Murderer Or Something you know that makes it worse should that you mentioned your grandson six at the time and 6yearsold. Thats thats an age full of questions, right . A lot of questions and i imagined, you are very careful about the answers to those questions what do you say . What do you tell him . You tell him . Although he was six at the time and hes eight now, he is extremely smart. In a conversation. After we as the world with the world found out that it was preventable he asked me grammy, can i ask you something he said, well, i dont know how to put it in words and i told him i said, just say what you just say, what you feel, just tell me. Just say it the way you need to say it. He said, do the doctors feel some type of way and sharing this. I know this was not your choice. 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The Recording Academy revealed this week that since 2019, the number of black Voting Members is now up 90 hispanic and latino Voting Members up 43 asian or pacific gathered are Voting Members up 100 Harvey Mason Junior is with us. He is the President And Ceo of the Recording Academy. Thank you foR Being with us and lets start here with most people. Dont know the members of the academy, the Voting Members, they dont know how many there are. So what does this been for music, for artists, for opportunities for the people that they love, that they say maybe arent getting enough shine ill start by saying the numbers you said are just start. Weve made so many changes throughout the academy, but to your point, the membership is what does everything . The membership is made up of professional music people. So in order to be a member of the academy, youd have to be working in the industry. You have to have credits and you have to be relevant. Weve really qualified all of our membership over the last five years. So 100 of our members are now relevant contemporary Music Makers. So to your point, the outcomes, the nominations, the winds, are all dictated by the membership in the votes. Its two rounds, its a nomination round. All the nominations go back to the Voting Body the 13,000 Voters Vote again for the second time, and the winners are announced straightforward process. So we hope these numbers will have an impact on improving not just our outcomes around awards, but throughout our academy yeah. I watch the grammys and i remember Jayzs Speech in which he thought youre welcome he talked about the academy getting it right. Right and let me play let me do this looming, which is an organization, you know, keeps track of all the metrics in the Music Industry they reported that in 2023, Hip Hop, again, lead all other genres in total ondemand streams, more than a quarter of all streams or R B and Hip Hop twice. Pop more than three times, country streams however, for all those fans in 2023, when they turned on the grammys in 2024, none of the Rap Categories made the main show. So reconcile that with this effort to represent diverse voices but not having enough time or platforming the most popular genre in music sure. Well, we have 92 awards across so many did honors and we alternate what goes on our show. Actually in 2024, 2023, we shared more Hip Hop on our show than ever in the history of the academy, we did a 13 Minutes Segment exclusively about Hip Hop and the importance of Hip Hop. The following year, we did a special about Hip Hop that was two hours on Network Television the history of Hip Hop and the 50th Anniversary of hiphop. So things have absolutely changed. We have a lot of genres, a lot of people but we represent, we try and balance that throughout all the work that were doing. And its also not just our award. So you have to think, victor, that the show generates revenue for everything we do. So we have to put on the right show for the right audience and make sure we attract viewers and eyeballs and continuing generate revenue for the academy. So we can do all the programs that education philanthropy, the moon does it serve as the edge of the legislation . These things are all paid foR By our show, so we have to do a Bounce Show we also have to represent a lot of genres and a lot of Awards Intersection of entertainment and politics. Here in hollywood, there are some who say that they are suffering consequences for speaking out in support a palestinians, in support of gaza and criticizing israel theyre calling on unions to prevent black listing and blackball. How do you prevent that in voting . How do you prevent that against artists in your industry . Because i know you released this really rare, if not unprecedented statement ahead of the start of Voting Voters and i believe they do this to listen to the music. Its not about anything else. Its not about the politics or the race for the gender, or even in some instances, genre, its about the quality of the music like to, believe that army is because they are professionals. There are people like me that are in studios. Their songwriters and Music Makers they care about the music, care about the art, are hoping. And my wishes that they evaluate the music based on the quality of it. And thats really the goal subjective. This is all very, very difficult. Its not easy but we evaluate the music on its excellence just for that one year Harvey Mason Junior. Thank you so much for your time. And again, i do i really do the grammys biggest night in music. Thanks so much. Alright i never thought id bring up something called the thick build long spur on this. 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There are six other North American Bird Species, the american orna, the logical Society Plans to change for similar reasons. And its apparently set off a big debate among birders ahead of their annual meeting, which kicked off in colorado this week, birdwatcher christian coopeR But was there youll remember his story. We showed a bit of the video just a moment ago on the same day, George Floyd was killed in minneapolis. A white Woman Called Police on christian after he called her out over her unleashed dog and central park. And that incident was part of the black Lives Matter Conversation that year, and christian cooper now the host of National Geographic extraordinary birder with christian cooper and the author of the memoir, better living through birding. He is with us now all right. So i expect that there are people who were saying now they want to change the name of birds, confederate monuments. Okay, answer, mama . The pancake box fine, but birds come on to that. You say what to understand that Burden Names changed fairly regularly. So what has some people upset is that why these names are changing . And the reason is because a lot of these people are some pretty awful history and so we can either keep living with those awful legacy histories or we can do something to change them. And at the same time be giving these Birds Names that are actually useful to people like if you say to somebody, oh, i want to see a wilsons warbler. Nobody knows what youre talking about. But if you say to somebody who doesnt know birds, oh, i want to see a Black Cap warbler. You at least know youre looking for a warbler with the Black Cap so were getting more useful names on The One hand and getting rid of these Legacy Names that have often a lot of bad connotations. So lets go through a few of them. Some of the first six to change and John Kirk towns has two in the first six, Townsends Warbler and Townsend Solitaire tell us about John Kirk towns and these are fine looking birds. But why did he make the list well, because he was a naturalist in an ornithologist and so he was very important in ornithology, but he also rob the graves of indigenous and his people to send to his powell in philadelphia, who was measuring skulls to prove his racist theories about how white people were superior. So he knew what he was doing, he knew that this was a desecration of other peoples religious beliefs and he didnt care. He did anyway it lands a legacy that still with us today of this thinking about racial superiority, even though its been scientifically disproven, it held sway for so long. Its still embedded in a lot of peoples thinking scotts orio, jennifer, when general wind field, Scott Why did he make the list . Yeah. This is one of the worst ones out there because he wasnt a naturalist, he wasnt in on a tholos, just its just that one of his privates under his command happened to quote unquote discover this bird to western science. And he named it after his Commanding Officer as an honor to his Commanding Officer who happened to be the guy who presided over the Trail Of Tears that led to the forced relocation of 17,000 cherokee. And in the process, a third of them died so its really a case of genocide. And this guy Has A burden named after him that every time and indigenous broder said because the guys, the Birds Name and the bird has nothing to do with the Guy Theyve got to put that Mans Name and is now thats not right and its not just the names of confederate generals and leaders of the Trail Of Tears that are leaving these, these Bird Species youre getting rid of. All upon themis names the ornato the logical award ive never pronounced before today societys all of these names are going right . Sure and thats the beauty of what the American Orna Theological Society has done. And i should mention that im not a member of the society though. I just came from their meeting where i gave a speech to them about Justice Subject the beauty of what theyve done is theyve decided to get rid of all names after people because theyre not going to get sucked into that trap of okay. Well, whos good, whos bad . Weve got to make moral judgments and whos standards do we use . And what about in the future will people judge us . And theyre bypassing the whole thing by saying, you know what no more Names Base from people foR Birds. And its a brilliant decision. It takes any sort of moral judgments out of it altogether. And more importantly, a lot of these names came in the 18th and the 1800s, the 19th century, when there was European Expansion westward, the displacement of the indigenous, the enslavement of bathroom African American it was all about sort of like naming things after white people and its like, okay, well thats lu, back then, but thats not where we are now we want to make sure everyone feels welcome and verdict and this is a way to open up the doors to everybody because we need everybody active in birding as many people as possible because weve lost so many of ouR Birds in the last 50 years. Chris, a coup, but i just knew you were the right person to have this conversation with not just about birding, but about how social justice is about more than Police Interaction and Housing Equality and dei that even in birding and other parts of life, we might not imagine that he need to review some of the decisions of previous generations, christian cooper. 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