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3,700 today on Inside Politics battleground, blitz with a month and a day until americans flood the polls. The final strategy for each which campaign take shape it involves swing states, superstar names, and bearing. Theyd grudges, plus The World watches anxiously to see how or if israel will fire back at iran as leaders around the World War Gray that one provocation too many will propel an all out war. And a last month power drive, a Screen Door slams on any question for Bruce Springsteen will back in 2024 as the boss tries to appeal to his fans, especially Working Class men, to vote for Kamala Harris im dana bash. Lets go behind the headlines and inside Politics Calendar to borrow from new jerseys greatest poet the candidates planned to spend the 32 days out in the streets looking for every last vote. Today, Donald Trump is in georgia and North Carolina, while Kamala Harris holds two events in michigan tomorrow, its harris who will be in North Carolina while trump goes back to butler, pennsylvania, where he was nearly assassinated three months ago and then next week as the Countdown Clock to Election Day ticks two under a month, both candidates call a big names behind their bids for the White House. We start our coverage in flint, michigan with cnns eva mckend, Eva Calling on him to go to pittsburgh next week as they lean on his Star Power to turn out the vote, his Star Power among democrats, at least and we have seen this to great effect in several last election cycles where obama is sort of called in, in the final hour in order to thwart democratic complacency. And we expect to hear from him a similar message that we have heard from the obamas at the dnc. We heard Michelle Obama notably lee, i tell democrats essentially listen, dont get in your feelings here. If you dont hear directly from the campaign between now and Election Day, this election is too urgent to stay home. You have to get out and vote. But theyre not only deploying the obamas in these Battleground States we are also going to see republicans deployed as Well Republicans for harris, a key to the Campaign Strategy were going to see Liz Cheney and then former officials from the Trump Administration make the case as well. Theyre just trying to appeal to every constituency, every part of the electorate ahead of Election Day, we know that the Vice President is going to meet with Arab American Voters today. Here in michigan before this big rally, this evening in flint, dana, this line already around the block here, were seeing a lot of momentum, enthusiasm on the ground. Dont know if that necessarily is going to translate to votes. The campaign is certainly hoping as such, dana, that is the big question, eva. Thank you so much for that. Ive got three great reporters here at the table with me today. Amy walter of the cook okay political Report Zolan Kanno youngs of the new york times, and Dana Milbank of the washington post. He is also the author of fools on The Hill, the hooligans Saboteurs Conspiracy theorist, and dunces who burned down the house. That is such a subtle title want to keep people guessing yeah. Exactly. Were going to get to that later in the show. But first i want to start with whats happening on the Campaign Trail. And dana, ill start with you. Barack obama Liz Cheney yesterday how much of a difference . I mean, we first met on which campaign was built Calvin Coolidge no, i was not yet bore or neither no. I think it was Bill Bradley actually, quite possibly nine. So weve seen celebrities come and go from campaigns, mostly democrats, but some republicans. How much this is obviously celebrity, but also its like big endorsement thats supposed to have a pop when it comes to Liz Cheney yeah. Its not necessarily a slam dunk, particularly with barak obama. Hes often said the most gifted politician of his generation. He really drive turnout among democrats, but theres a flip side. He also really drive turnout among republicans. The maga, it really brings out the maga folks some of its rage but no, they portray him as elitist, that sort of thing. So you definitely want him in strongly democratic areas bringing out the vote, but you probably want Liz Cheney in areas with Swing Voters to deliver that. So lets listen to a little bit of Liz Cheney on the Campaign Trail Donald Trump was willing to sacrifice our capitol to allow Law Enforcement officers to be beaten and brutalized in his name and to violate the law and the constitution. In order to seize power for himself. Any person who would do these things can never be trusted with power. Again, we must defeat Donald Trump on November 5 and i have talked to so many republicans who shoulder shrug and theyre like okay, i mean, it is noteworthy that a cheney or cheneys are not just endorsing, but out on the stump for a democrat, but is it really going to move the dial . Yeah. I mean, the thing about look, you do have a conservative republican in Liz Cheney. Now coming out for the Vice President at a time where the Trump Campaign Pain is still trying to portray the Vice President as to the far left, right, cheney also represents a republican party thats not as visible today. The republican Party Today is more aligned with maga and trumpism. But at the same time, what this does do is her endorsement also brings January 6 back into the spotlight. At a time when the Harris Campaign actually hasnt made January 6 a focus of their messaging as much as the Biden Campaign did the Biden Campaign was talking about democracy in often trying to remind folks about January 6 and the storming of the Capitol Harris has more so tailored her messaging to trying to lower costs and sort of Kitchen Table issues. Now with this endorsement, you dont actually need her to talk about January 6 all the time well, yeah, its that and the moment in the Vice President ial debate earlier this week, which was sort of focused on January 6 and democracy and of Course Jack Smith and what they released this past week with a lot more information and quotes according to Mike Pence of the involvement of Donald Trump in trying to overturn the election . Yeah. The first to the Liz Cheney piece, i think theres this conversation we hear a lot in politics called a permission structure, right . Allowing people who feel sort of uneasy voting for one ticket because they never have before and giving them a way out to say to conservatives or somebody whos voted republican consistently, look, it wasnt your fault that you voted for Donald Trump. You thought just going to do good things, even Liz Cheney is now voting against him. You werent you were duped rather than you made a poor decision but i do think this is the sort of challenge for the Harris Campaign. They have a dual track here. One is winning over those people like Liz Cheney would appeal to. But the real Swing Voters and were seeing this in our polling and were seeing it in other data out there are the voters who are saying, i feel really pinched economically, i feel really stressed about inflation. So i need people who are going to be able to dress cost of living things. The Kitchen Table issues are my main issue. January 6 . Yes, it was terrible, but that is not what Im Voting on. Im voting on my pocketbook. And so being able to and you hear her in her ads, almost all of them are about Kitchen Table. Yeah then the question is, as are so all of Our Mutual Friend david chalian, reminded all of us this morning, the polls also showed the economy work. Thats like top, top, top and midterms. And it didnt entirely work out that way. But lets stay on the economy because i, of course want to show today is the first friday of the month, which means that we had the job numbers this morning 254,000 way higher than the forecast, which is 140,000 jobs. So its more good news on the ledger with the data. You mentioned that you guys have done some polling. What else did it show you with regard to the these issue sets and how they are or not favoring Kamala Harris . Yeah. So you know, the overall when we look at the headtohead numbers, they havent really changed much since august. And there is some concern among democrats that harris peaked and now shes back sliding a bit but when you look underneath and look at issues like inflation, who do you trust on the issue of inflation . Donald trump had a six Point Lead our polling in the Battleground States in august, thats now even so that lead of his has been erased on immigration. His lead is narrower. There as well. Part of it is voters feeling theyre not feeling great about the economy, but theyre feeling less, had pessimistic about the Economy Today than they certainly than they were in may by a significant percent of motors. And shes winning over the folks who say theyre, they think things are staying the same so its not even that things need to get that much better. Its that even the voters who are feeling kinda matt about the economy are still feeling better about her as a candidate. Yeah, i think this is the single most important development thats happening right now much more so than the top line because youve seen it in other polling across the Country Reid trumps advantage on the economy, which largely means inflation, is shrinking. And part of thats like the jobs report, part of it is cutting Interest Rates and inflation actually sinking. But i think part of it is trump has been just all over the lot in his message. He has not been able to bring home the message on the economy or on the border and down the ballot. Republican candidates are similarly all over the lot. I mean, theyve been outspent to a large extent by democrats and by the the Harris Campaign. All scattershot. So i think he squandered his advantage just as much as hes lost it on the economic data. Lets quickly look at theres the sort of earned media as you call it, when the candidates just speak and then theres the paid Media Acts want to quickly show our colleague david wright, put this together and its really fascinating where first were Kamala Harris is spending focusing on the blue wall. I mean, you see pennsylvania by far their spending the most and then michigan, wisconsin, and then on down. Then lets look at where Donald Trump and his campaign. They are focusing, they are focusing on pennsylvania as well, but then theyve got almost as much North Carolina, georgia i mean, its its fastening. Right . I mean, it shows the focus that the Harris Campaign and really democrats in general just have on those three crucial states, pennsylvania, wisconsin, michigan. Its also why the White House was panicking about a certain longshoremens strike thats because of the potential bad had to alienate you Union Support in states across the country, including those three pivotal states for the Trump Campaign, youre seeing them invest in the sunbelt where Housing Prices have really been an issue for the past couple of years, which is obviously a vulnerability to incumbency. But also, i think North Carolina is fascinating. This has been something that democrats have had increasing enthusiasm about for firstly, i mean, they have a lot of money just as we button this up, the Harris Campaign, if you look there on the right of your screen its like blast in all of these Battleground States in terms of money spent on ads, does that surprise you . It does to an extent, especially when you consider the controversy around them lieutenant governor, and the potential for maybe it does that then impact turnout for the former president as well . And just how much democrats have talked over the past couple of years about how they may have a chance in North Carolina, but also the spending on the Trump Campaign doesnt surprise me because of the concern for that state. And also, its so just add up georgia, North Carolina, pennsylvania that gets trumps chance to 70. Yeah. There we go. Stay with us up next were going to go live to the Middle East as israel prepares to pick the time and tempo of how it will respond to more iranian provocations plus a playbook to steal the election. Why worries about democracy are reaching Fever Pitch with only days left in the 2024 election, our Sara Murray is here with some new reporting dont go anywhere to 30 years. Ive been saying publicly what people are saying themselves i have enough money. 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Cnns diplomatic editor, nic robertson, is standing by in television nic yeah, the Gathering Tehran was perhaps the biggest that it had been since those last time the ayatollah spoke there at the funeral for qasem soleimani, who was the head of irans quds force, who was struck by us Drone Back in early 2020 and was very close to Hassan Nasrallah to so this is a significant moment for the for, the iranians, for, for the ayatollah as well. And he took the opportunity to lay out the legitimacy. He says that iran had to strike israel in the first place. He said it was a legitimate strike. He said that if in Essence Israel strikes back at them, then they will again strike back. Then israel, he said that theres no way that israel is going to be able to defeat irans proxies, hamas and hezbollah and we got some sort of further Detail Or Understanding about what iran thinks today from its deputy military commander, who said, look, iran is a vast and big country, is israel. He implied, is relatively small. He said its got three Power Stations and several refineries. And we could hit all of them once the seeds to be a very direct threat towards israel, that if, if israel does strike, as expected against iran, this is an indication of how iran on, my respondent, this is how you get into that escalation, but this is a wrong position. They they they are telling their people their legitimate and that theyre going to carry on this fight wow, nick, that is certainly how you get to even more of an escalation escalation. Thank you so much for that reporting. I appreciate it and back here with my great panel i want to go to what Donald Trump said before i did, i just for a do i want to remind our viewers that President Biden said flatly that israel as part of its retaliation, should not strike at irans nuclear capability. That would be too much of a provocation the former president who wants to be president , again disagreed do make the statement, please leave their nuclear alone i would tell you that thats not the right answer. That was the craziest answer. Because you know what soon theyre going to have nuclear weapons. And then youre going to have Problems Administration in the White House has been really focused and had a consistent message up until this point, are trying to prevent an escalating war in the Middle East. Now, to be clear, there are concerns in the White House that we may be getting closer to witnessing that with the Actions Today for the former president he is sort of seized on this as well as other crises happening within us borders as well. To try and portray The World under President Biden as more chaos ruled on, right . Were on fire. Thats been almost the specifics of this criticism if i were there the followup would be well, what is your strategy . Right . And the Middle East, can you go into specifics on what your response would be, but politically, this all seems to be a means of sort of taking the current moment to try and tell voters that The World is more chaotic here, which is, as i said yesterday, it is october in an election year. And you . Know . Things happen that are always out of the control of the sitting president. And this case, the sitting Vice President , that could affect the election and could affect the perception of voters. Even if theyre planning on voting on one issue whats going on in The World, the swirl and the fear could have another effect. Yeah, its, i mean, its unlikely unless this really spirals out of control. I mean, americans generally dont focus on, foreign policy in general. Now, you Oil Prices are creeping up. If there were a shock that would be completely different story. But i think trump did everybody a favor . Give her by saying, hey, why not . They should go after the nukes because that is what the choice is right now. I mean, you see the biden administration calling for strain probably would be calling for more restraint if it werent 30 days before the Election And Bibi is one of The Worlds greatest cynics and that has a lot to do with why he escalates related in lebanon right now, but there is a clear choice here that trump is going to say netanyahu is going to be unfettered to wage whatever war he wishes to forever more. And thats a choice. Amy, i want you to just weigh in on this. Its a different but related note. We just got reporting from our colleagues, Priscilla Alvarez and others about the fact that Kamala Harris is expected to meet while in Michigan Today with a group of Arab American and Muslim American leaders right which is something i think has been going on on both behind the scenes i think didnt Tim Walz also meet with some of these groups as well . We know that there was conversations with uncommitted delegates, delegates at the convention in a state like michigan that we know is this close to getting every single one of your potential voters back in your coalition is critically important so i think at the end of the day, if you say, whats happening in who wins michigan, its not all going to come down to that slice of voters youve got many other groups that were going to be focusing on, but thats clearly won. The key slice. Yeah. I mean as you said, every slice is when literally a slice that is probably determine who wins and loses. Thank you all. Dont go anywhere because up next we have a warning from a Voting Group sounding the alarm at maga allies running a playbook to steal the election. That happened. 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I think there was this Blockbuster Filing looking back at what happened around the 2020 election, and there are a lot of components of it that feel really familiar to the things that are happening now. And so i spoke to the brennan center and ahead of their Voting Rights project, shahed Morales Oil and he described it as the election deniers playbook, the plan to subvert the outcome of the election. Its more coordinated its more planned out, its much more wellfunded and sophisticated than it was in 2020. So essentially theyve had four years to look at what worked and didnt work last time around. And a lot of the things that are happening now are things that we saw happen around 2020. You saw these false claims that there are non Citizens Voting and mass that is happening again from republicans. We are now seeing just an avalanche of legal challenges ahead of the election. We saw a lot of this afterwards, but the challenges really take aim at voter rolls. The notion that states arent cleaning their voter rolls, that there are dead people, that there are people who have moved. We saw this a lot and postal election challenges in 2020, Election Boards that are delaying are disrupting certification. That is the kind of thing that happened in one place around 2020 and drew a ton of headlines. And since 2020, its happening in counties and Battleground States all over the country and the other thing and the Thing Election officials really worry about is this misinformation around the election and around voting because people get whipped up, sitting at home, seeing stuff on social media, seeing stuff on perhaps like the rightwing Maga Sphere and they become convinced that something is happening, some fraud is happening, some votes dealings happening, and they want to take it upon themselves to confront an official or show up at a vote counting center. And thats what election officials really worry about turning day dangerous. Yeah. And thats what weve heard even from federal officials, from the Attorney General and Fbi Director and so forth. And then the question, would you raise in your in your book, fools on The Hill to hooligan Saboteurs Conspiracy theorists and dunces time when trump was down and out house republicans thats a group did more than any other to restore him as the unquestioned leader of the party. They also too far greater extent than republicans in the senate or in governorships, mimicked, amplified and tried to validate his paranoid claims about a deep State Conspiracy within the federal government is ludicrous claims that the election had been stolen. His rewriting of January 6, and his claim that the government had been weaponized against him and his supporters by democrats yeah. So there are im sure talks about Flashing Lights. There are so many right now. I feel like im in times square, but the biggest difference i think in the most worrisome now is the fact that, you know after the 2020 election the challenge was sort of on the fly. There was making it up as they went along. But theres a lot more infrastructure for that right now. And you look at mike johnson, the speaker of the house. He is out there saying, will you accept the Election Results . Correct . Answer. Yes, ill accept the Election Results was saying if their fair which presumably means if trump wins, now, he owes his job to Donald Trump. Hes out one mean tweet. Hes out of a job. If they win the house, hell be theyll have to decide on january 3. So what does he do when trump says, you know, need you to overthrow the election, i need you to use the 12th amendment, bring it into the house. Well, it probably wont work, but he certainly built the predicate for that to happen. So thats i think thats the major chain is the infrastructure thats there now. Yeah, i do think the one thing you know, Voting Rights groups, they really dont want everyone to panic. They still want people to know. You should turn out and vote and that there are a lot of steps that are being taken to make sure elections are i think thats like the Silver Lining of this sort of fouryear period is that we now have a lot of information about what happened in the wake of 2020. And so its not just the infrastructure of election deniers that has grown and popped up, but its also the infrastructure of the these folks who are seeking to counter these efforts to counter these narratives. But again, we know when its Election Day people go to the polls. Were going to see this misinformation and that stuff just whips around the ecosystem so quickly okay. Well, its up to us to keep banging on what your reporting is. Thank you so much. 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Ive been consistently writing about for 55 years Hacks On Tap are here to share their invaluable insight based on lots and lots of experience. David axelrod, former senior adviser to president obama, Mike Murphy, longtime republican strategist, who has worked with john mccain, mitt romney, and many, many more acts. Im going to start with you, you tweeted about springsteen how much of an impact realistically do you think this will have on specific, specifically the kind of voters that Kamala Harris desperately needs right now like a huge believer in endorsements as a major force but he has a large following and he is sort of a guy who sung about americana for half a century and talked about working people in that hes against spoken to the experience of people, the real experience of people so i think it has some impact and hes very passionate and very eloquent on on democracy and on issues involving working people. I think its a obviously a plus its not going to tip the election, but it may get some people out to vote who wouldnt otherwise vote, and it may give people who are on the bubble, who are followers of his, some incentive. I mean, as a jersey girl, i loved the, not just the plan of course, is sitting in a jersey diner, the whole thing was like, chefs kiss when it comes to jersey, but i want you to look, Mike Murphy at the latest npr, Pbs Marist Poll on this question of white man. Donald trump has a 41 Point Lead among might went white men specifically without a College Degree and then just look at one of the many developments that have happened this week. And that is, this is part of a Press Release from the Trumpvance Campaign noting that the firefighters union, one of the first to endorse joe biden, did not endorse this cycle. Kamala clearly has a big problem with rankandfile workers across the country. Your thoughts . Mike murphy well, i dont know. You gotta be careful about using labor endorsements, you know, campaigns do that whatever you could get the Doorman Endorsement and then boom, all working people are for us. I think it has been true of trumps data from day one that weve had this evolution where college educated white voters are leaving the republican party already. We used to dominate with them because trump is scared them off but people who make their livings with their hands, white bluecollar voters have been moving to trump on the populism. And i think its more about trumps message in some of the cultural stuffy in flames, but it is a problem. Prayers the good news is on the other side of that gender gap. Shes killing, shes doing very, very well with women. Some she can cut into those white Working Class folks with an economic message and turn the tables on trump a little bit thats a path forward for her. I think shes not going to win that group, but you never want to lose that bag. Am i just staying with you . I dont want to lose sight of what happened. Another thing that happened this week, which is that Jack Smith filing upon receiving a phone call, alerting him that pence had been taken to a secure location and unnamed white House Aide rushed to the Dining Room to inform trump and hopes that the defendant would take action to ensure Pences Safety instead, after the aid delivered the news, the defendant looked at him and said only so what its that its the that January 6 moment in the Vice President ial debate does this have legs when it comes to the voters to get throws . It throws another big log on the bonfire that we all know and have known for a long time that Donald Trump is a selfish jerk. Does it move voters though . Its a goldmine for reporters, goldmine for historians, goldmine for psychologists trying to figure out what the hell is wrong with Donald Trump but these Swing Voters, no but they think hes a jerk who could run the economy well, i think it helps a little. I dont think it was the election big way. David yeah, dana, i agree i agree with mike. Ive told people many, many times, if youre talking i obviously think the portrait that of him is bad. The facts are are horrifying. But if its likely that if youre sitting around the kitchen, around the Dining Room table talking about January 6 and democracy proceed youre not worried about the cost of of groceries on your table and so we have a real divide around this and i agree with mike, there are people have to say i know all that. I dont like it. I dont like him, but i think he might be better for me and thats you know, that is what he is riding on. Hear the question is whether i think the debate pointed up the comedy with a t of the debate pointed up how people seem hungry for the reaction to the debate was boy they were Nice To Each Other it points up how much people are sick of well, trumps politics, this kind of zero sum ragefilled, nasty name namecalling politics that makes getting stuff done together that much harder. And i do think thats an opening for Kamala Harris, steven, i have to ask you about your old boss on the Campaign Trail yeah. You say youre dubious of celebrity endorsements. Hes, you know, well, thats a Celebrity And Politician and a former President And Everything is different. Yes, no, no, hes all of that but, hes also perhaps the best liked politician or former politician out there. And he has constituencies and one of those constituencies is younger Black Man who has been a focus of his work. And thats also a big weak spot for Kamala Harris. If theres one place among africanamerica n voters where she needs help, if theyre now, Hill Help inspire voters, generally younger voters and so on. Hell make the case as he always does very well. But to the degree that he can persuade some of these voters who are on the sidelines or leaning trump. And hes getting, you know, 20 of the black vote right now. I think that would be really helpful. For Kamala Harris in whats going to be a marginal election so his presence on the Campaign Trail is going to be important generally, hes been a good at this, but i think there are specific constituencies he can help with, perhaps more than others these endorsements are all feathers against Bowling Balls though, because theres such so many big forces going on hes a big feather. But its going to be whether or not commonly can move the numbers on economy. And she represents a change and she has been closing the gap. Trumps way ahead on running the economy over the last year the democrats with biden, shes closed it, which is progress for her, but theres more to do. All right. Mike murphy, david axelrod, Hacks On Tap. That is your podcast. I dont consider either of you is even though thats what you call yourselves. Thank you so much as a badge. I know you do. I know you do you think the campaigns right here is tearing into Each Other . Were good care of that and then we get the campaign back to ted loss of his bold to morton. Shell win all right, guys. Thank you so much. Have a great weekend. All right up next a close up. Look at our nations First Ladys and what it means that america could soon have its first, first Gentleman Sandwich between brands and i weigh in on this debate with Department Of Agriculture generally defined sandwiches as meat between bread or a ban. What about subs . You been no way can you do this as early as your 40s, you may lose muscle and strength. 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