Message from Liz Cheney and a passionate plea to americans while standing with the democrats nominee in the birthplace of the Republican Party also tonight an old photo has surfaced of a republican member of congress in blackface. All dressed up up as Michael Jackson tonight. Congressman Mike Lawler will join me live to respond and trapped in the flooding to people are dead or more are still missing tonight. And Tennessee Factory is under investigation after workers say they werent allowed to leave to escape Hurricane Helene until it was too late. Im Kaitlan Collins and this is the source to overturn the last president ial election are front and center with only weeks to go before the next one. The fallout from the culmination of those efforts by Donald TrumpJanuary 6 is what pushed Liz Cheney to do something that would have been unthinkable for anyone in her family, just four years ago go the lifelong republican, sharing a Campaign Stage Today alongside the democratic president ial nominee and have all locations. The birthplace of the Republican Party i was a republican, even before Donald Trump started Spray Tanning i know that the most conservative of conservative values is fidelity to our Constitution Sacrifice Vice are capitol to allow Law Enforcement officers to be beaten and brutalized in his name and to violate the law and the constitution. In order to seize power for himself. I dont care if you are a democrat or a republican or an independent that is depravity and we must never become numb to it after those forceful comments. Liz cheney then stood over her shoulder as we saw the Vice President goes somewhere that she has mostly avoided for Months Election that statement, of course, was the one thing we did not hear from trumps running mate, Jd Vance earlier this week on the debate stage. But this comes as the massive trove of evidence that the Special Counsel says it has on trumps efforts to overturn the election and as all looming over this endorsement from Liz Cheney, because the man who was quoted in that filing that we brought you here Last Night saying, quote, it doesnt matter if you won or lost the election. Hes still saying this for years later. We did much better in 2020 we won, we won we theres a rigged election it was a rigged election course. He did not win in 2020, as we know, my political Sources Tonight are former Communications Director to Vice President harris jamal simmons, scott jennings, who served a long with Vice PresidentDick Cheney and the George W Bush administration. And journalists and cofounder of lift our voices. Gretchen carlson, jamal a fullthroated Endorsement Today that we heard from Liz Cheney just watching it. I mean, i know that were used to everything happening in this day and age, but it seemed just almost just unimaginable a few years ago. And does it work though . Thats the question i think let me just say for the record, thats where a lot of my career any against the chinese so its a, its tough one, its got to be surreal for you to see that he didnt go very well id rather be on their side. I think listen, i think this does give some republican moderates maybe who are thinking about what to do. We know that sliver is getting smaller and smaller, but maybe it does give them some opportunity to come out and vote for Vice President harris. I think she didnt just say do it because you know, trumps horrible. Its bad. She gave her a pretty big endorsement about who she was and where she comes from and what her values are. I think she gave them a Ringing Endorsement and then the Vice President got up there and really didnt make i thought it was very interesting. She didnt make Liz Cheney applied for Anything Or Standard and they are Intake Anything that she wouldnt apply for. She didnt talk about a lot of social issues. She didnt talk about any of the things that might be controversial between democrats and republicans. It was america first, freedom. Were all in this together. Lets fight and win. And she said, i hope one day we can get back to a place where we have a vigorous Twoparty Debate in this nation. Obviously, were having one, but she was saying the Republican Party is so different. I mean, does what Liz Cheney did today create a Permission Structure for republicans who are our kamala curious about voting for her . Yeah, but i dont think anyone who hasnt made up their mind yet is looking for permission from her but i do think this was a very brave act on her part. Takes, courage to do what she did after January 6. It takes courage to do what she did today. I thought what was most fascinating was that they didnt talk about policy at all they probably dont agree on much of anything. So Foreign Policy. They did talk Foreign Policy, Foreign Policy agreed on that i mean, thats a very insightful so point that they stayed away from policy. Look, Liz Cheneys mission there today was that she believes democracy is at stake and thats the Number One thing she has been talking about for the past few years. And shes willing to look past any other Policy Differences because she believes we wont have a democracy anymore if Donald Trump is elected i mean, scott the obviously as the republican at the table, who did work for Dick Cheney when he was Vice President. And that administration you know, when you see that today, what do you make of that . I revere big cheney. I was glad to work for him twice and honored to serve underneath them. I mean, i just want to mentally disagree that we wont have a democracy. I think this country is strong, stronger than any individual politician in either party. And so i believe deeply that the Policy Differences matter. So did Liz Cheney at one point, she used to call Kamala Harris are radical liberal, who would raise taxes, take away guns, and health insurance, and explode the Size And Power of the federal government. Now this, means something to a lot of people. And so i dont begrudge her her viewpoints. And obviously if she strongly dislikes Donald Trump and what he represents, but there are a heck of a lot of people in this country who thought they were getting something out of biden and harris that they did not get. And theres a lot of republicans and conservatives who probably may have some proclaimed devotees that cheney has about what trump did on january the sixth, but are mortified at the Policy Outcomes of bidenharris. They were not moderates, they were radical liberals just like cheney predicted, they would be. But what about when Bill Barr tells Me Trump can have all these policies that people say, well, i like his policies better, but Bill Barr said to me, basically his personality gets in the way he can actually achieve those policies no, i think Kamala Harris, his personality gets in the way to i mean, i mean, theyre politicians, theyre human beings, they are things about them. We like and are things about them we dont like i think politics has a couple of purposes. Win elections and govern. And the Way Harris has governed last threeandahalf years, i cannot abide its like this is why she wasnt going after you for a Vote Today hes, not going after people whove already decided i work for George W Bush and her dad, who would she be going after because thats not the Republican Party anymore, but thats those are her people. Those are the people they not. Yes. But thats not whos running as a republican this Election Cycle thats the whole point of this discussion shes going after the 2 of undecided, shes going after independence and shes going after republicans that hate Donald Trump. Those are the two groups. And its a very small group. But when you have an election this close, it could matter. Well, lets talk to a republican that we have with us who worked for Donald Trump, Sarah Matthews is here and sarah, obviously, you were the Deputy Press Secretary in the Trump Administration when i was covering you have endorsed Liz Cheney. Youre voting for sorry, for Kamala Harris. Youre voting for or youre gonna be with Liz Cheney on the Campaign Trail next week, are you someone who ever thought that youd find yourself voting for a democrat . I think if you would. Have told me for years ago that ib excited to cast my ballot for Kamala Harris for president in 2024, my head would have exploded. So no, i did not envision myself being in this position, but i also didnt think that an insurrection at our Nations Capital was possible. I also didnt think that we would ever have a president who would disrupt the peaceful transfer of power for the first time in our nations history. So it made the decision easy because i believe that Donald Trump has shown us that he is wholly unfit to ever serve as president. Again and so yeah, im going to vote for the person who i think can beat him and will keep him out of office and away from the oval office. What do you plan to say next week when when you do appear alongside, not just Liz Cheney, i should note, but also alyssa farah griffin, who our viewers will know well, Cassie Hutchinson two other former prominent trump supporters and trump staffers look, i think that all of us identify as lifelong conservatives i can say that ive never voted for a democrat in my life and i believe that the other three have never as well, but we know that the stakes are too high in this Election And Weve seen up close and personal at least cassidy, alissa, and myself. What what kind of leader donald well, trump is. And we know him to be unfit and so we dont want to sit on the sidelines in this election, and we want to make our voices heard and somewhere like pennsylvania, where i believe that this message could break through. Obviously we know that pennsylvania is going to be critical and that the margins are going to be tight and i want to say that in pennsylvania during the primary process, there were 100 in 58,000 republicans who turned out to cast a vote for Nikki Haley in that primary. That is a closed primary. So that means said no democrats or independents can vote in it. And these people knew that their vote when it matter in the sense that Donald Trump was still going to be the nominee and he would win the primary. But they did it in protests. And so even if just a fraction of those people, we can convince to write in Kamala Harris, instead of sitting this election out or voting for Donald Trump are leaving the top of their ballot blank, then that could be something that pushes Kamala HarrisOver The Edge and gives her a win in that critical key battleground state. Thats a great point about those. Nikki haley voters. I want everyone to listen trump responded to cheney endorsing harris and a very public way she did today. This is what trump had to say for congress she was terrible. Liz cheney is a stupid warhawk, all she wants to do is shoot missiles at paypal. I really think it hurts think frankly, if kamala i think theyre hurt each other, i think theres so bad boss with women, how many times do we have to say this hits calling her stupid, it just makes me cringe. It doesnt even matter who im going to vote for or what i think its just why would he keep doing that . I guess ill ask scott that. Why would he keep doing that and think that he might have a chance at getting some of those independent women and suburban moms. I just dont understand it. I mean, i look youre welcome to your opinions. I mean, my view is he debates his political opponents with great vigor and the independent and suburban women of this country may or may not have already formed opinions about him. But i doubt theyre going to cast their ballot based on what his views of Liz Cheney or i hope they cast their ballot based on the inflation under which theyve been crushed for the last threeandahalf years for instance. But to me this this idea that hes not allowed to fire back at his critics when they call him everything, but a good milk cow. I just think is ludicrous. Chris, its a political campaign and its october buckle up everybody. Well, thats also pay attention whats really happening. Hes not going after suburban women, right . Hes not going after women. But yeah, maybe she is, but hes not hes going after those disaffected guys who are playing video games, watching wwe, not paying attention to politics. And they are trying to get every single from when then they can to show up in this Election And Vote for him. I got to tell you, it is so bracing. I imagine it. I dont know if its bracing for you or not, scott it would be bracing for me that so many people who have worked intimately with Donald Trump who know him so well from cabinet officials to military officials, to staffers have all come out and say, this man should not at be trusted with the White House again, any economy is the Number One issue for voters. But in polls weve seen democracy is really high up the other underneath it arent even close. We had the republican house whip, Tom Emmer on Last Night from minnesota, we were talking to him about this and talking about what came out in that filing Last Night about the efforts to overturn the election which is why Liz Cheney was up there today and listen to what Tom Emmer had to say folks in the media want to focus on a regular basis. The american people, and thank goodness, Jd Vance and Donald Trump are focused on the election and how to fix this Country Trump went on at Length Today about the 2020 election, as we just heard saying that he wanted this Isnt Something that the media is just concocting. Trump himself is still talking about. Well, and Jd Vance on tuesday night, also, wouldnt give a straight answer on this so look, its an inconvenient truth that this is something that were still talking about. But i think this whole thing could have stopped when Mitch Mcconnell had the opportunity to stop it on that day on January 6, we would not be looking at the same Republican Party today. We would not because he could have coalesced the members of congress, right then in there to not allow down ill trump to make them push back what they thought about it and they could have impeached him and it would have rudimentary civics lesson. The House Impeachers and it took them a long time to get to it. And yes, im just talking about and then the senate, but it took a long time to get i dont disagree with you the head they convenient done it that night. Maybe they would have, but it took less than a long time for pelosi to get around to it. It took too much time passed, so dont blame Mitch Mcconnell. Im the leader of the Republican Party at the time. And i think that that will go down in history as the greatest error of the Republican Party. Scott, you dont care about the Liz Cheney endorsement. Youre a republican. What about this endorsement that we also heard from today . With full knowledge, my opinions know more or less important than those of any of my fellow citizens. Here is my answer. Im supporting Kamala Harris for president and Tim Walz for Vice President and oppose Donald Trump and Jd Vance i am bruce springsteens pretty convincing to some people. Couple of things i Cant Think of anything. I care about less than some more on celebrity. Be we got Hulk Hogan and thats all i need Kid Rock will be concerts in pennsylvania yes. Hes pretty hes not like some outoftouch la. So i dont i legitimately dont care because joe biden, Kamala Harris ran the country into the ground. I want Directionally A Center Right government and i dont give a crap what some celebrity thinks about it has got hundreds of millions of dollars. Hes not affected by their policies are help working people in kentucky do care about it and thats where i live and thats who i agree with scott on that. I dont think these Celebrity Endorsements i mean, maybe Taylor Swift moves it for people to register to vote. But im not sure that that has much to do with who they want to vote for in the end, its their pocketbook, right . Yeah. I was my final Thought God bless bruce springsteen. All right. Well, No One here he is getting backstage passes to bruce thank you all so much for being here up next youre going to want to hear this story. 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My legal sources are former assistant us attorney for the southern district of New York and cnn, senior legal analyst elie honig, also here, former senior investigative counsel for the January 6Committee Temidayo Aganga williams. Great to have you both here. Elie, can we just start with what they are arguing . What trumps team is arguing here, obviously we know the goal is, but whats the process that theyre hoping they get there by . So this is the the other issue weve been very focused for last several days and weeks on the immunity question, which is playing out. And i know well talk about in a minute. But what trumps arguing today is there was another supreme Court Decision a few days before the Immunity Decision that said the Obstruction Law that was charged to get hundreds of January 6 rioters does not apply to the physical Attack Kemp to block congress on January 6, the court, as a result, throughout 300 plus convictions for that. And by the way, i should say Justice Jackson Ketanji brown, jackson joined with five conservatives in that ruling. So trumps team is saying, aha, two of the four charges against me are the same obstruction statute. Therefore, it has to get thrown out. Jack smiths going to say well, youre for case involved fake documents, which the Supreme Court said is really the distinction it has to evolve fake documents or Jack Smith is going to say the fake elector certificates that keeps these charges on The Books against you. Do you think the judge will say this is not going to work . I mean, they tried to get a lot of his cases thrown out. They were successful in the classified documents case. Whats the situation here . Do you think . I think elies right. The argument were going to hear, i dont think thats going to be successful. The distinction there is going to be about whether these, this law that was made after the Enron Scandal focused on documents is applicable to the former president. I think its going to be a failure when he moves forward here. I think the judge is going to be pretty easily dismiss that that argument. Can i ask you about the other thing the judge did today, which was moved the deadline for when trumps team has to respond to what we went through Last Night, all this evidence that we had never seen before, some of it in the Election Interference Case against trump, saying this can still go to trial despite what the Supreme Court argued its november 7, two days after the election, would they want to not rebut that before the election happened . Yes, its a good question you would think trump would want to put in his, hey, heres my response to this thing. You all just saw. Its not going to trial obviously for a long time because its going to go back to the Supreme Court. But this is whats unusual about the way this whole thing has played out. The Briefly SawLast Night procedurally, its all backwards with the way it works. Youve been the Prosecutors Chair you get your indictment as a prosecutor, then the defense says, heres the motions. Im going to make to try to dismiss Jack Smith here said, i want to go first and i want to speed it up. And Judge Chutkan agreed with him and thats why weve now seen this document 30 some days before the election, they really flipped ordinary procedure on its head here to get it done well, and thats why trump is quoting you on truth social today. You titled this Jack Smiths october cheap shot yeah. I stand by that Jack Smith took the established normal procedures of any case and he said, i want to go first, Judge Chutkan said, this is an unusual request, and then let them do it. Theres no reason to speed it up. Theres no reason to flip it unless you as Jack Smith believe, while the american public needs to see this before the election, thats not your job as a prosecutor and i argue in the piece it violates longstanding Doj Policy to do anything with an election but it is out there and it is really interesting. We read through it all here Last Night. Its fascinating and theres one part we didnt get to Last Night, tim. And since you were on the January 6 Congressional committee helping them with their very exhaustive investigation. I wonder one, if you knew about this and what you make of it, which is this detailing about how trump operatives were trying to cause chaos . During the election . And this has to do it two unidentified Trump Campaign workers in detroit. Its on Election Night at where things getting crazy. And when a colleague told an unidentified person, we think a batch of votes heavily in Bidens Favor is right, that are unnamed person responded find a reason. It isnt give me options to file litigation when the colleagues suggested that there was not to be unrest, the polling place, this person responded, make them riot. Do it. Now we dont know who that was, but they were clearly trying to have some kind of moment where it looked chaotic, it looked like these we didnt know who these votes were for if they were legitimate when they were and they just wanted there to be a scene that they could use to their advantage so that was new to me. Thats something that i was not aware of and i think it is. But i think its consistent with what weve seen with both the former president and his allies, which is that they knew that their actions were likely to cause violence and they wanted to cause violence. I think its entirely consistent and i must if i could kaitlan, i want to go back to what elie said on Jack Smith, which i must vigorously disagree with the contents of Elies Article i dont think what Jack Smith here, hes done is abnormal. The Doj Rule Reference about taking actions within 60 days is informal law. Its not the right rule thats not the right one if i could rule that . Not talking about like the kid that i think what i find problematic in that article, its suggested Jack Smith is purposely trying to impact the election. It suggested Jack Smith going first is so abnormal because its putting some kind of mens rea, which a State Of Mind and Jack Smith the Supreme Court told Jack Smith to go forward and do exactly what hes doing Jack Smith filed that brief under seal. Judge chutkan chose to unseal this, not Jack Smith. And i do take issue with the framing that this case has been delayed or as going forward at this time because of Jack Smith. It was delayed because the Supreme Court took so long to took this action. It was delayed because as the former president has sought at every angle to stop this from going forward. So i do think that personally for me, i think what Jack Smith has done so far is prosecuted this case honorably quickly and appropriately and the public has a right. Theres a public interest in an open process which means seeing this evidence, which means moving quickly and yet thats moving quickly before an election thats what should happen that people should know what happened and get the evidence that a grand jury, as beyond probable cause, said that the former president likely committed these crimes so that people should get to trial as quickly as possible and should not be stopped because an election happens to be happening, hes a defendant first candidates how many times did you ever file your motion first before there was a motion to dismiss as a prosecutor, how many times i over how many times ive ever prosecuted a former present for these crimes are unique circuit fifth, the Supreme Court rules are thrown out because really what theyre saying, what im saying is there conservative Supreme Court told Jack Smith, take this back to Judge Chutkan and do exactly what they did not say. You go first, you rush it the way motions work. You know this, the defense makes those converse. They get to say, heres the basis. It got flipped on its head and let me talk about the delays. Hsu how long did it take doj to charge this case . Youre talking long. Did it take doj to charge this Case And Hold on i turn my turn now, go ahead and a half years. Youre saying Donald Trump delayed because he as a criminal defendant, raises a constitutional defense which goes to the Supreme Court and he wins. Thats not delay. Thats a criminal defendant vindicating his constitutional rights. That delay here is on doj. They didnt leave Jack Smith enough runway. He has done nothing but Franticly Expedite expedite expedite at every step of this case, you cant tell me. It has nothing to do with trying to get it in before the election. And the rule, the real rule here, its section nine 9. 5 au says as a prosecutor, you cannot take any action. People say, oh, it only means Charging Decisions know the rules says any action with an eye to the election. Sally yates said it was inappropriate to do just this a few years ago, if you had a problem with what James Comey did in 2016, you have to have a problem with this. You can what James Comey did is 11 days before an election, he announced that reopening of an investigation which are talking about here is a case that has been prosecuted, is Motion Practice continuing that is not the same thing out all its completely different. And i think its inappropriate to suggest that Jack Smith has been doing something frantically. I think what hes been doing this prosecuting the case as he should be conversation elie honig, agangawilliams. Thank you both up next here. Donald Trump Tonight is responding to the video from his wife and her new book, claudia trump, saying that she supports abortion right a cnn job, new reporting about how much her Book Publisher wanted from cnn. 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No interview ever 250,000 and Skyhorse Publishing later said it was a mistake telling us, quote, neither Melania Nor Anyone from her team knew anything about the nda and the document that was sent reflected an internal miscommunication my Source Tonight is kate bennett, the former cnn white House Correspondent and author of free melania, the unauthorized biography, kate, you know, Melania Trump. Well, you cover have covered her for a very long time do you believe that it was a mistake . I dont really i think Melania Trump is often the thing that makes her most upset is that people make money off of her right . Theres a famous story that she wanted to take on the bobbleheads that were being sold in a visitors, a Tourist Shop near the White House. I mean, this is someone who has spent the majority of her time Postwhite House post for slate at selling things on the internet and leftys necklaces and now this book, so i dont think its unusual also, cnn reported not too long ago that she had received and Appearance Fee for what was technically a Campaign Event in the amount of 250,000 as well. So i think this is what she feels is the cost of doing business. Of course not in journalism, but thats what she thinks. And shes been really promoting this book heavily today. She released a video where she comes out and pretty fervent support of Abortion Rights. Obviously, notable given it was her husband who helped end Roe Versus Wade by appointing three conservative justice just does this to the Supreme Court. Listen to what she had to say about it today, and then also what trump said when he was asked to be too of freedom is a fundamental principle that i safeguard without a doubt there is no room for compromise when it comes to this essential right, that all women possess from birth the be dual feed them what does my body . My choice really mean It Melania as memoir about championing, championing Abortion Rights and reproductive freedom. When you read it, what were your thoughts . We spoke about it and i said you have to write what you believe. Im not going to tell you what to do head. What are you have to say about that i mean, when have Wanted Trump ever done anything with the approval or not approval of Donald Trump nebor i mean, she has her tenure in the White House it is the only one in recent modern history that the east wing had. Fortunately, no contact with the West Wing when you think about that, there was no amplification of messaging, there was no were doing a trip because the western wants to push this out and certainly this abortion moment, this reproductive Justice Moment that Melania Trump is having and talking about in her book feels a uscentric. I am a little hesitant to believe that Donald Trump even knew what was coming before this book came out. Melania trump does what Melania Trump wants to do. On a first, anybody who knows not to try them swayed or the other way. Its Donald Trump. If shes writing a book, is that something that she would tell trump before before it becomes out or is that something that maybe he could have found out recently i im under the belief when ive spoken to some people that he probably found out recently, again, the two orbits, although they are close, im not, im not saying they dont they dont communicate. They dont spend time together the work that Melania Trump does is often siloed and Thats Something she does on her own you know, when i think its interesting to listen if Donald Trump could Say Anything to Melania Trump about these recent weeks or months, wouldnt it be, hey, can you get out on the Campaign Trail for me . Can you help me get undecided Women Voters are recent immigrants are people who would relate to your story. Its a typical thing that first ladys do for their husbands who are campaigning or their spouses who are campaigning going i mean, Doug Emhoff is doing it for Vice President harris so i think that if there was something he could ask her to do, it would be campaign not necessarily. Hocke The Book but shes chosen otherwise yeah. And the question is whether or not she would say yes, kate bennett. Thank you so much for that and you can see more of keeping an eye talking about this story about First Ladies and melanias role. 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The New York times reports that Mike Lawler dressed as Michael Jackson when lawler was 20yearsold. And a College Student visibly darkening his face as he donned a Red Jacket and a black shirt for a halloween costume. The time says lawler didnt dispute that the photo from 2006 is real, and i should note this comes as he is currently locked in a very tight race for reelection, running against former democratic Congressman Mondaire jones and Congressman Lawler joins me now, and congressman, thank you for being here tonight before we get to anything else. I do first want to just give you a chance to address for our viewers doors for your constituents the choices that you made back when this photo was taken around October 2006 well, kaitlan, thanks for having me, yesterday. I attended the funeral for the father of a friend. And when we went to the cemetery to bury him we were approaching and it turns out his gravestone is going to be right behind my dads on my dads gravestone. It says god grant me the serenity to accept the things i cannot change, the courage to change the things i can, and the wisdom to know the difference obviously, i cant change what happened 18 years ago, but i certainly with Wisdom And Age understand that that is not something i would do today and certainly understand why people would be upset or offended by it. And for that, im sorry. But, for me, there was no ill intent, there was no effort to malign or make fun of or disparage black americans. It was really an effort to pay homage to somebody who was a musical idle for me ive always loved my Jacksons Music and his Dance Moves and his ability to entertain anyone who knows me knows that. And people who come visit my Dc Office can see today by Andy Warhol Painting of Michael Jackson hanging in my office. So this was really not what i think could truly be construed as blackface but i certainly understand why people would be offended by it and for that, im sorry it seems clear from what you said, but just to clarify, for people watching, i mean, do you ever think its okay for a white person to put on black face . No, of course not. And in this instance, as i said to the New York times i had used a Friends Bronzer but again, obviously 18 years later, i certainly reflect upon and understand that how that can be construed. But i think there is a stark difference between dressing up for halloween and paying homage to somebody you like and respect versus dressing up in blackface To Demean and dehumanized black people which is what minstrel shows in blackface historically was about. And thats obviously not what i was doing there yeah. And thats an important point, is that we have when this has become a thing weve seen it with other politicians, Ralph Northam of virginia. Obviously it was actually a Michael Jackson costume as well. Its because blackface does have such an ugly history and you have 50,000 people, black people in your district. And so i just wonder with your Comment Tonight what would you say to one of them if you were if you were speaking to someone who said you know, that really bothers me that that happened once well, look certainly and i have spoken to many of my Constituents Today and in discussing it with them and certainly understand how someone would take offense. And for that, i do apologize. Well, john is because to me, obviously, given the history in america and given what we have seen with slavery, with racism and the civil Rights Movement obviously, we should not and cannot tolerate the demeaning and Human Nation of black people. And that is not something certainly that i would do or engage in were tolerate and so again, i understand how this can be very upsetting to somebody. And so certainly i do apologize for that, but for me, obviously, i think intent here is important is it difference between when Governor Northam as a College Student, dressed up in blackface, standing next to somebody in a Kkk Hood versus obviously me paying homage to Michael Jackson. Can i ask about another detail on the New York times story . It says Michael Jackson biographer for said that you attended parts of his criminal trial. You were in High School at the time. As to trial in which Michael Jackson was accused of molesting 13yearold boy. It ended in acquittal. But the biographer is saying apparently that you are removed from the courtroom at one point because you were saying derogatory things under your breath. You just want to comment on that . I look, i J Randi Terror borrelli is a friend. I worked as a researcher, if you will, for him when he was covering the case for Cbs News at the time, i had gone out to california to visit colleges with my family and ended up coming up to the trial for one day and i was in the courtroom and the mother at that point of the mother or the accuser had testified that Michael Jackson was going to steal her children in a hot Air Balloon and so i muttered under my breath yeah. Okay. And did get removed from the courtroom and obviously not a not ideal, but to me, ultimately, obviously in that case, a jury heard the trial and he was acquitted Congressman Lawler appreciate your willingness to come on and address this photo tonight. Thank you. Thanks, kevin. Appreciate it meanwhile, on investigation is underway tonight in tennessee, where the factory that workers say they werent allowed to leave in time when Hurricane Helene was tearing through. 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The final details are still being worked out in a full agreement will need to be ratified by the Rank And File members, but they will go back to work in the meantime tonight, Hurricane Helene has now become the second deadliest hurricane to ever strike the u. S us mainland. And the past 50 years. Only underneath Hurricane Katrina 213 people have now died across the southeast in tennessee. Tonight, officials are now investigating after 11 workers at a Plastics Factory or swept away by Hurricane Helenes catastrophic flooding. Four of those workers are still missing tonight to have been confirmed dead. The others that survived say Factory Manager but refused to let them leave, even as floodwaters were surrounding the Building Video shared by one of the workers that Impact Plastics shows them hanging on for their lives after they tried to escape, clinging to Industrial Tubes as floodwaters a rushing by 1. 8 tennessee national Guard Helicopter hoisted some survivors out of the water. Witnesses say several others were lost. A spokesperson for the company said, tonight says that they will be cooperating with investigators. And quoting them now, say at no time were employees told they would be fired if they left the facility . One of the victims, bertha mendoza, had just celebrated her 56th birthday last month. Look at her beautiful photo here my Source Tonight is her Son Gear Moment dosa and his attorney, greg coleman. And i want to just thank you all for being here. Dad. Youre here as well, and i just i appreciate you being here during such a tough time for your family and im so sorry to both of you gear you can can you just tell us because you were actually able to talk to your mom that night. What did she say to you . Well originally she called me in the morning saying son is getting pretty ugly outside. Dont go outside. Make sure not to take my grandchildren outside. Xi she always cared to do that whenever she felt like it just wasnt good weather. So that was my first call my first and last conversation with my mother so she was worried about your safety and the safety of your kids . Yes again, she she always prioritize the safety of her grandchildren, her children thats just the kind of person she was to always check up on her family can you just tell me how you personally are feeling in this moment, what youve been able to learn, and what questions do you still have about what happened to your mom . I lost oh, my mother my grandmother, my children my father lost his wife of 38 years married. Of marriage we, are not okay in this my mom and now she wants us to come together as a Family And Support one another. So we thats what weve for The Book for most part, we are united as one were coming together as a family, as she would want us to do and greg, i know there are a lot of questions from a legal perspective that you have. Youre representing the Family Investigators in tennessee, say that theyre investigating tonight and the company as you just heard, said that theyll cooperate, they havent been contacted. They say by investigators yet. But what do you say to the company saying we didnt tell anyone they couldnt leave well, kaitlan. Thanks the problem with that narrative is thats not what a lot of people are saying or agree with the exact opposite. Look, you know, this Drill Lawyers were supposed to deal in facts and thats what were going to deal with. Weve already talked to several that lets just say are pose to what the company is saying. Now, after all the destruction you hold or who do you hold responsible for what happened to your mom just refer to break were just trying to heal as a family very my mother with dignity theres a time to heal and this right now with our family there will become a time to fight the right now, were just trying to come let me get there and he was a family complete understand. We can hear the kids there in the background its just its heartbreaking and im so sorry. Youre going through this, please give our thoughts to everyone in your family whos there and your father. Thank you for joining us. Cure Moment Dosa and greg coleman, i appreciate you thanks. So much just thinking so much for that community, but we do have an Update Tonight as we did just get the preliminary internal Investigation Report from Impact Plastics, that company, they say the Factory Management actually let workers leave within minutes of the Plants Power going out and at the road in front of the plant appears, according appears to have been passable the company says No One was ever trapped in the building or on its premises. Were going to keep you updated on this very important story and all what tennessee officials find. Thank you so much for joining us. The news continues right here on cnn