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Nice Face The Nation has your back tackling Helene President biden deploys active duty troops to help as the Hurricanes Death Toll rises 6 00 a. M. On the east coast. A live look at Capitol Hill on this thursday morning. Good morning, everyone. Im kasie hunt. Its wonderful to have you with us were now getting our first look at Neverbeforeseen Evidence filed by special Prosecutor Jack Smith in the 2020 Election Interference Case against Donald Trump. This includes the personal nuts of then Vice President Mike Pence, who wrote five pages detailing an Oval Office Meeting Where Trump was pressuring pence to take action just two days before January 6, those notes alleged that trump told pence things like, quote, when theres fraud, the rules get Changed And Quote quote, you can be bold and quote, and that pence had quote the right to do whatever you want to do and quote but the Vice President rejected those plans and two days later oversaw the Joint Session Of Congress to certify the election for Joe Biden, telling trump that his plans in a Phone Call that morning while pence was on Capitol Hill to do this, trump was at the ellipse outside the White House launching what the Special Counsel calls, quote, an indirect threat and quote, against his Vice President. During a speech to his supporters my pence, i hope youre going to stand up for the good of our constitution and for the good of our country. And if youre not, im going to be very disappointed in you. I will tell you right now im not hearing good stories after trumps speech ended chaos took over Capitol Hill as trump supporters stormed the building. In what the Special Counsel called one last effort to delay the Vote Certification back at the White House, the Special Counsel says trump watched everything unfold in the Oval Office Dining room. And while there by himself, sent a tweet, which helps to fuel the riots. It was read in almost real time by a rioter with a Bullhorn Watch asked to previously certify. You ask demand one minute after that tweet was sent. Mike pence, see him there was evacuated to a secure location when told that his Vice President was in danger when he was sitting in the Oval Office Dining room, trump allegedly said back, quote so what our panel is here to talk about all the latest zolan kannoyoungs, cnn political analyst, white House Reporter for the New York Times, zach cohen, cnn national Security And Justice reporter. Karen finney, cnn political analysts, former spokesperson for Hillary Clintons campaign, and mike dubke, former Communications Director for the trump administration. Welcome to all of you zach, i want to start with you just on reporting. This is 165 page indictment. We knew some of the broad strokes of this going in because of what we learned from the January 6 committee, this We Asli was the Special Counsel trying to distinguish here between private and official acts as a Supreme Court demanded, what would you pull out for us as things that are going to be critical going forward . Yeah, its really remarkable how Jack Smith tries to make the case that trump was acting as an office seeker, not an office holder, and basically says that the core and fundamental party so this original indictment still amount to crimes and that includes the fake elector plot, which he says in this new Charging Document that trump was personally briefed on and warned about that it was outrageous and that it was crazy by people around him and still move forward with it anyway, and of course, trumps interactions with people like Mike Pence, right . Thats still a question as to whether or not that is covered by the Supreme Courts immunity ruling. Jack smith makes the case that they were acting as Running Mates, not as president and Vice President. Thats always tried to get around the Supreme Courts immunity ruling. And i think weve all kind of come to understand at this point how theres no love lost between trump and Mike Pence, but theres new evidence does really cast sort of trump is deceased the passionate in his reaction when hes told that Mike Pence is being evacuated from the u. S. Capitol and also his interactions with his Family Members allegedly telling his Family Members that it doesnt matter if he wins or loses the election because he fight like hell if exactly, exactly. And that sort of encapsulates the whole tone of this Charging Document. Yeah. Zolan kanno youngs, lets talk big picture here for a second because obviously this is coming down under 35 days to the election you have this morning, were learning that Liz Cheney is going to be out on the Campaign Trail with Kamala Harris in wisconsin of the birthdays the Republican Party, she obviously is someone who staked her entire for political life on what unfolded on January 6 what impact does this have on the campaign here at this late hour . Obviously trumps people are saying, and im sure mike will want to weigh in on this, that the Justice Department Shouldnt have done this. But im curious how you think about this. As you cover the Campaign Day in and day out. Sure its look, the Harris Campaign and the Biden Campaign before it, when they would talk about democracy as a theme in this election, they would often point to January 6. They would point to also the allies of the former president who were trying to revise the history and the record of what happened on January 6. And you add democrats really trying to remind voters of that day and what the former president did not do. The amount of time that he spent in the White House seeing that riot unfold and his statements leading up to that riot that encouraged his supporters to storm the Capital Something like this. Thats not just sort of a politician attacking another politician, but, but, but our findings and a legal document that are going to continue to be talked about are only going to fuel some of the criticism against the former president. Just to your point as well, when you talk about some of the descriptions in here, particularly about the former president and what its described in terms of his reaction to hearing that his then Vice President was in danger, that the Secret Service had was had to rush him off because some of the rioters outside were threatening him the president the former president s reaction is described as saying so what something like that is only going to be talked about in these limited weeks, we have the remainder of the a legend i remember at cost, right after a Vp Debate where one of the real sort of memorable moments was Tim Walz also pressing vance and asking him whether the former president had lost the election and he had a nonanswer. Well, kasie, the Justice Department Shouldnt have done this. Youre absolutely right i say that myself. I said they i know. Im repeating what you thought i would say but heres why. And im coming at this at a little different tack. I think the optics of this are bad but i think theyre bad for democracy, yes, we can talk about how theyre bad for Donald Trump. But a lot of this is already baked in with trump supporters. But what is, what this can turn into especially with trump supporters, is then looking and going, okay, The Fix is heres the, heres the Bidenharris Administration. One more time. They took they delayed delayed, delayed bringing the case. And now were at the final Edge And Weve got a onesided legal document with putting color on incidents. We already knew happened. And its one more thumb on the scale by the Bidenharris Administration. Thats whats bad about this this release in part, its been delayed because of all the efforts on the part of the trump legal team to delay that case is starting heard of the delay. Thats fine. But part of why were hearing the now frustrated with merrick earlier is part of why were here now versus earlier this year is related to part of their legal strategy. Look, i think what it does do, there are plenty of people who havent been following the details as closely. I think the way i look at it in terms of the debate, it was a very powerful moment. Youre right its a reminder why Mike Pence was not The One on that stage. Thats what its a reminder of. Its a reminder the danger perfect segue being the Running Mate to this present, there was a time thats true when he said its not how you win or lose. Its how you play that game, not youve fight, fight, fight as in the fight to the death, even if youve lost. So i do think for voters who are looking for a reason, not to vote for trump this could be a Final Push to say, okay, no, i cant do this again, zach very briefly. Thats really go ahead and really werent point out the decision to release this was made by the judge in this case. Judge chutkan, not the Justice Department, just playing more cases were she coined in mind, trump is directing his anger toward the Justice Department are we going to see more before the election . Its very possible there could be more evidenced on that comes out of this next couple of days. So what to wait and see alright. Zach cohen. Thank you very much for being with us this morning. I really appreciate your reporting. Rest of panel is coming back with very shortly straight ahead here On Cnn this morning, President Biden will not step in to stop the Dock Workers strike. Thats just what i grow concerned. Current about the Port Stoppages impact on the supply chain, plus explosions rocked beirut as israel weighs a response to iran, former trump national Security Adviser John Bolton joins but since we discussed how the White House should address the counter attacks and after Debate Night, the Running Mates return to the trail and the Midmeta Western nice is suddenly not so nice. 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To name just a few. And this has been prompting some people to return to covid Era Panic Shopping amid fears of shortages. If it continues the strike could cause Price Hikes in that critical last month before the november election, President Biden warning about the strikes impact on Hurricane Relief efforts incredibly consequential the last thing wed on top of that is a manmade disaster was going on at the port were getting pushback already. Were hearing from the folks regionally, having trouble getting product me because of the Port Strike all right. Joining our panel now, annie linskey, reporter for the Wall Street Journal, is The One karen and mike are also still hear any let me start with you on this the president democrats, Kamala Harris in a tough spot with this Strike Unfolding because they really rely on need, labor, support but at the same time, an economic downturn, 32 is going to get hung around their necks oh, absolutely. I mean, this Union Leader is picking a very good time to do this. He has the maximum amount of leverage here. One of the things i think is most interesting is that he has support not only on the democratic side, but also the republican side, even though Donald Trump has said supportive things as well and is already maneuvering to do exactly what you said and hang this around. Kamala harris and and Joe Bidens snack for lack of a better way of saying it so yeah, i mean, they have the power at the moment, but i have to say i cannot fathom that theyre going to have this power for a lot longer. I do not think that Joe Biden can allow this strike to actually start me economy. I think theyve got a few days, a few more days perhaps, but the president , ultimately, i think zolan, what are the options for the products . I mean, there are squeezed, here, right . The president could pursue action known as tafthartley, which would basically say that the longshoremen need to go back to work for whats known as an 80 day cooling off period. That doesnt sort of provide a solution and to this labor dispute, you still theoretically after that 80 day period, would have to have these guys during that election. Its not 80 days away, 100 election is 33 days away time he is squeezed, right . I mean, this takes to really competing pressures the president said that he will not pursue tafthartley and when i talked to White House officials and democrats, one thing thats on the mind of them as also the crucial Labor Support unions in three crucial battleground states, wisconsin, pennsylvania, michigan. You cant alienate those folks, which you would probably do by pursuing intervention like that. At the same time, if this goes on for a couple of weeks, you may have also returned to what has been a political vulnerability for this White House. Now for recent years that being inflation and rising prices, think given what were seeing in florida, in North Carolina, and parts of georgia. And this, the devastation and the dire needs in those communities that might provide find a way to say, look guys, we have got to make sure that these communities have the basics to be able to clean themselves up and start to rebuild dr. To happen, not going to happen. I could finish my head please. 2006, 11 days. It took George Bush to invoke tafthartley i cannot imagine that biden would Bidenharris Administration would do it before them you know, no, please do. Hes. Got more do you know im asked me if you just im just suggesting possibly im just suggesting that were in a unique moment given the devastation that weve seen, i do think it puts a different kind of pressure on the situation. That did not exist before the storm hit. Well, its certainly something perhaps that the president might argue if he were to do something like this over the objections of his allies in organized labor alright, still to come here On Cnn this morning after Hurricane Helene devastated parts of the southeast, the Recovery Process for communities is just beginning. Cnns isabel, Isabel Rosales followed fema as theyve been working to try to help those communities in need. Well show you some of what she saw, Plus Former first Lady Melania Trump reportedly sharing their feelings on reproductive rights and they seem to be at odds with her husbands policies stupid. Saturday at seven On Cnn. New projects means new project managers. You need to hire indeed, you do. When you sponsor a job on indeed easier for talented candidates to find it, which makes it easier for you to hire them. Visit indeed. Com slash higher this is the story of The One who doesnt just see a broken docx. He sees lost revenue a late Night And Work stopped to a halt. 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Cnns Isabel Rosales followed along with fema in North Carolina to capture the challenging conditions for first responders rare and exclusive Access Cnn guided up the Blue Ridge Mountains by what a fema is 24 deployed urban Search And Rescue teams were deep in hard avery county, North Carolina just collapsed portions of Beach Mountain a remote Ski Resort Town left unrecognizable by helenes wrath, signs of just like washed off these Winding Mountain Roads made further difficult to navigate by obstacles. We are entering an area thats closed off to regular people only first responders are allowed and it is because its so treacherous. Were seeing it for ourselves. Thick mud all over the Place Treason are down portions of the Road Food has crumbled down. So im really concentrating here. This is difficult to drive and even when debris and fallen trees are cleared by Chainsaw And Manpower to make way for rescuers another major barrier as Fema Supervisor of whos been on his Cell Phone trying to get in touch with his came to figure out where the Rad Division Groups Supervisor Colin barez pulls us over, cant get a signal were seeing for ourselves everything that the governor has been talking about. Issues had been talking about the how big of a Challenge Communication is not just for civilians, but you guys trying to do these Rescue Operations at year is, you know, when you dont have cell service, email to all or come the challenge in the towel slows things down then by pure luck, a few of his men spot us they found him just out of the blue. So this is great for being reunited. And heres the command post, right . This 80 Member Fema Team assisting the North Carolina national guard. Now on day six of rescuing survivors stranded and cut off from Help Question trying to find human remains. They huddle over maps, these mountains working out the next days, urgent search. How does this work . You guys are doing brits. I see this black black line, right . Yeah, its just easier for us to keep up since squads will say you know, good Grid One or good, 234 before sunset, we roll out. We came up about three miles. But honestly, it feels like ten back down The Mountain A Second Look at what helene laid to waste before we can make it down. Another danger getting through these torn and treacherous roads typically, the roads washed out in a Mountain Atmosphere like this. Hurricanes usually happen towards the coast but this is definitely more challenges for us. I know we havent faced before regardless, first responders across the State Push on more than 400 people rescued so far says the governors office. But the work nowhere near done until all the missing or found that was our Isabel Rosales reporting. Lets turn now to weather for today, the Southwest And West coast experiencing historic heat more than 30 Million people under heat alerts across the region. Lets get straight to meteorologist, our weatherman, derek Van Dam. Derek, good morning. Yeah. Here does kasie so the area highlighted in this red and orange thats the 30 Million americans under some sort of heat alert today. And its just odd for the month of october to have this type of heat. So were breaking records, but its also been this streak of heat that weve had over the past several months, which will highlight in just one moment, but this is including places like San Francisco lets go to sacramento, los angeles, and eastward towards phoenix. And we highlight into phoenix because just yesterday you broke a decades long record, high temperature of 107. It actually reached 108 yesterday. So this puts 100 113 consecutive days where your temperature has risen above that 100 degree mark. So thats really kind of contextualizing just how extreme the heat has been this year and how it remains. And we dont see any real relief in sight for phoenix, this is just one city, for example, but much of the southwestern us continues to bake under this abnormally warm October Temperature now, the completely different story unfolding over the eastern half of the u. S. Where we are enjoying very autumn like weather across the northern portions of new england, where reaching Peak Fall colors. So ill looking beautiful and will enjoy the below average temperatures. But theres the aboveaverage, whether that will continue over the western us us, not much in terms of whether assigned from an area of disturbed weather across the gulf of mexico, were lowering those chances of tropical development. But regardless, this will bring a lot of rain the florida through the weekend and its early parts of next week, kasie all right. Derek Van Dam for us this morning. Derek. Thank you very much. All right. Still ahead here On Cnn this morning, be Disaster Tour across the southeast continues President Biden visiting two more states impacted by Hurricane Helene today, plus more from Special Counsel Jack Smiths latest Filing Outlining Neverbeforeseen Evidence against Donald Trump in his 2020 Election Subversion Version case he works for kamala and he works for joe. This was a weaponization of government and thats why was released thursday he days before the election yeah experience was sharp. Your info to get you a great Rate And Car Insurance And Theyll tell you if they find a better rate later on experience, riyadh experience. 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Prosecutors alleged that trump engaged in a criminal conspiracy to obstruct the certification of his defeat in the 2020 election. The crux of the Special Counsels new filing that Donald Trump undertook those actions as a president ial candidate and not in his capacity as president. And Special Counsel wrote this quote at its core, the Defendants Scheme was a private one. He extensively used private actors and his Campaign Infrastructure to attempt to overturn the election results. An operated in a private capacity as a candidate for office. And quote, this latest filing made necessary by a July Ruling from the Supreme Court, which found that president s have sweeping immunity for official acts trumps lawyers arguing before the court for a broad interpretation of immunity. One with vast implications for president ial power if the president decides that his rival is a corrupt person and he orders the military or Orders Someone to assassinate him is that within his official acts that for which he can get immunity . It would depend on hypothetical, but we can see that could well be an official Judge Tanya Chutkan now tasked with determining whether trumps alleged crimes are protected by that ruling. And she will also need to decide how much more evidence to make public before election day. Our Panel Returns and we were talking in the break about what was actually necessary here. And i wanted to bring in something that chutkan said earlier this fall in early september, she there was a hearing to determine some next steps and she said, this quote, the electoral process and the timing of the election is not relevant here, this court is not concerned with the electoral schedule, and we do know she could potentially make more evidence in this public, but we do know that the timing of these actions matters very much. I mean, karen, you remember what happened in the Hillary Clinton Campaign and i dont i just absolutely look, i think whats different in this case is this process has been are we said been moving along at a pretty fast clip and it does seem that the judge has been very great, committed to keeping the process moving along. Theres obviously been delays based on most she wanted to trial to start on super tuesday. She sure did. And she had to the quote, you just made. She read she doesnt really care about the election. She cares about the case and given the delays around some of the filings from the trump team, here we are look, its not 11 days before of course that Comey Letter Code about yes. Yes. Yes . My understanding and obviously we would need to consult one of our legal eagles, but this is x i was asking yesterday, is this something is this extraordinary as that something typical . This is normally happen. It can, and it does not. My my understanding is its not that this is so out of the ordinary to have happened. It is unusual i mean, weve never encountered this as a Nation Resident that were in didnt call off the mob on January 6 and then ran again if we look at the 11 days before the 2016 election, i mean, that was that was an individual making whatever decision he was making. This is this is an official agent of doj as a federal judge, not the real judges are not agents of doj, right . I mean, doj is arguing. Shes decided. Right. I mean, shes thats fair no, no. Totally fair. I shouldnt have used The Word agent, but she is well aware of what Dojs Advice and guidance is on releasing information before an election and this to me is a little bit unusual, not just a little bit a lot of bit unusual. For them. To do this 30 some days out, but at the end of the day, this as weve talked about, all these Court Cases are going to hurt trump. This is a bad situation for him. His his Favorability Rating was probably higher in may when he was in trial in New York than it is now. And so this is this is what i was speaking to earlier. The optics of this act is bad for democracy, but might be helpful for Donald Trump. Even given the sensitivity around the timing of this. I think itll be really interesting to see how both of the campaigns actually respond to this filing. For years now, youve had sort of the White House and then Biden Campaign sort of walk a delicate line where they wanted to tell the public that there is distance between an independent Justice Department and the White House particularly as these cases were, were were proceeding at the same time, you know the so itll be interesting to see what the Harris Campaign does. Do they spotlight this at the same time, the Trump Campaign to your point at times, actually built Support And Guy at Ron Mentum when somebody is different things were in the very end of an election here, i think with a small number of independent voters who are trying to decide what to do when they start thinking about January 6, even if theres not that much thats really knew or regulatory in the spine. This filing i think it has that echo of james comey, his letter that yet again, youre thinking about the very thing that is a weakness for this candidate. And i dont think you want him. I mean, i think for the trump people, they just cannot be pleased with this and trump did in 2016, right . He kept saying, oh, if she is elected, its going to be chaos. Certainly lawsuits are going ironically, so much chaos if its her and i do think it reminds people of the chaos when Donald Trump was president. And i think hes different back then, way back in early this year, which seems like a year ago now she was so much more disciplined. He would come out of the court. Right. And he would it was maybe one minute. He would stay on script, then he would leave. He is now off the chain as the kids say, and talking about people coming in and slicing your neck. And im just saying hes becoming increasingly agitated and unnerved. It seems on the campus pedro, i dont think this is for people who are trying to decide if theyre going to vote for him. I dont think thats going to make them feel more sympathetic have been very respectful, but we havent tolber of chaos. We have storms, we have strikes, we have strife yes we live in chaos right now. And thats in the Bidenharris Administration . Yes. I will say it was in control the way i thought i got to you. Its one of those things. Somebody somebody was wondering out loud, what are we going to . Theres no more debates or somewhere official things. Would have been covered in the final theres always something in october you just may not know what it is alright. Panel. Thank you guys were going to because well be back in just couple minutes coming up here On Cnn this morning. Former trump national Security Adviser, John Bolton joins us live. Well ask him about the white House Call for restraint as israel weighs its next move against iran, plus Jd Vance and Tim Walz wasted no time returning to the campaign stump, trading barbs over Debate Night night if Vice President ial debate. I thought not bad for all coach. Now bad off. But so is your sound engineer. You need to hire a new indeed. 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This morning, several countries preparing to evacuate their nationals from lebanon as the region awaits Israels Response to Irans Missile attacks, the israeli Military Warning that it has the means to quote, strike any target in the Middle East and quote, overnight israeli airstrikes hit Downtown Beirut an area thats not been struck since the 2006 war, and at least nine people were killed as Israels War Cabinet weighs its next move, President Biden is making clear he supports the countrys right to respond. But with a key Exception Right to respond respond joining us now, former Un Ambassador and former national Security Advisor under president trump, John Bolton sir, thank you so much for being on the show this morning. I saw that you said earlier this week that you think that israel should strike iranian nuclear weapons program. You heard the president there saying that no, they should not do that. Whats your reaction to him saying that . Well there are two things wrong with what he said. Number one, that he said it, even if thats his opinion, why do you tell Israels Adversary . And by the way, Americas Adversary in tehran, what youre not going to do, let them worry about it. You can make the decision, but telling them what youre giving up or what i hope the israelis give up is just a failure of diplomacy, oneonone and second, the position itself as wrong, Israels Response should not be proportionate. I dont know what the Word Proportionate means here. When japan attacked the united states, had Pearl Harbor should our response have been proportionate to seek an equal number, sank an equal number of battleships that japan had sunk. I mean, it just doesnt make any sense in this context, deterrence is obviously failed. Israel followed Bidens Command really back in april that they not respond effectively to that attack by ballistic Cruise Missiles and drones. I think israel fired one missile at one Missile Launching Site obviously didnt the Terror Iran in the slightest. The way you establish deterrence reestablish it in this case is by responding Disproportionatel Y. And the most important threat that israel and the wider World Face from iran is its nuclear proliferation program sir, do you think that the you mentioned, you say deterrence has failed what is the. Bigger, threat to the u. S. Though, i mean the concerns about the wider escalation of this war are potentially very serious. Clearly thats what the administration is trying to avoid how do you see what youre suggesting not inflaming the situation further . Well, i think the administration is paralyzed by this fear of wider war. Israel and really the western world have been in a wider war since october the seventh on multiple fronts, the houthis in yemen are now attacking israel as well as closing the she was canal red Sea Passage the hamas attacked out of gaza last october 7. Hezbollah has been rocketing northern israel since october the eighth. And iran itself has engaged in as well as the Shia Militias In Iraq and syria. So the wider war is already here, but lets look at it from the Point Of View of israel and the united states. Israel first can you assure israel that the next time iran fires a ballistic missile from its territory, that under the Nose Cone of that missile, theres not going to be a nuclear youre weapon irans nuclear program, as i said before, is the biggest threat. Israel is a small country, 6810 nuclear weapons. Theres not much of a country left. So ask yourself the question this way. Is the threat of nuclear extinction . A bigger or smaller threat than a wider war sir, were of course, i just 33 days from the president ial election and i know you have said that you plan to vote for Dick Cheney to write write him in Dick Cheney put out a statement saying that he is going to vote for Kamala Harris, his daughter, Liz Cheney, is going to campaign with her. We learned this morning. He said, as citizens, we each have a duty to put country above partisanship to defend our constitution and that is why i will be casting my vote for Vice President Kamala Harris. Does that sway you at all that the man that you say you think should be president is urging people to vote for Kamala Harris reassess whether to vote for dick. I mean, im looking to vote for a conservative republican and i certainly think dick is a conservative republican if he were to win, not much chance for that, i suppose i dont think hed put Kamala Harris in cabinet. I had originally thought in 2020, Id Write in Ronald Reagan to make the point even more effectively. And maybe thats what ill do this time. I am not going to vote for either harris or trump. Neither one are qualified to be president who do you think would be the better person to steward this conflict in the Middle East from an american perspective, i mean, you have talked about the stakes. Would you rather see Kamala Harris in the Situation Room next year or Donald Trump . I dont want to see either one of them for different reasons. Why now my harris well theyre both unacceptable to me. Thats a matter of conscience on my part. Im not going to choose between two unacceptable alternatives on the ground. That one is less unacceptable than the other, neither one meat the minimal test of whether they should be president to begin with. I understand. Obviously one of them will win, but im going to cast a protest vote. I dont like it and i worry about the united states for the next four years whoever wins know. I mean, thats fair enough. Who who do you think would be in israels interests . Which one of them i dont think you can tell. I mean, Donald Trump said yesterday or maybe it was the day before that this conflict between Iran And Israel is like to kids in a school yard fighting. And that, thats about a typical Donald Trump assessment of the complex international problem. Those who think hes going to be reflexively supportive of israel really should think again really interesting all right, ambassador John Bolton, very grateful to have you on the show this morning, sir. Thank you very much for being here glad to do it. Thank you all right. 52 minutes past the hour. Heres your morning roundup. One of the doctors charged in Friends Star Matthew Perrys Death has now pleaded guilty dr. Mark chavez entered the plea this week. He faces up to ten years in Prison Chavez and others are accused of illegally dealing ketamine to perry. Perry died in October Of 2020 three due to acute effects of the drug. And his subsequent drowning today, President Biden continues his Hurricane Helene response. He will Tour Damage in Florida And Georgia yesterday, he visited the carolinas, flying over the damage and later approving the deployment of active duty troops to provide critical aid for western North Carolina at least 191 people have died because of the storm Melania Trumps sharing her thoughts on reproductive rights, just weeks ahead of the president ial election. And it is seems to be at odds with the Republican Partys platform. The guardian reports that in her new book, she writes this quote, why should anyone, other than the woman herself happen . Power to determine what she does with her own body. A womans fundamental right of individual liberty to her own life. Grants or the authority to terminate her pregnancy if she wishes . Do you think mike, i mean, Melania Trump coming out there and saying this at this time its obviously very much at odds with the evangelical wing of the Republican Party, but it does potentially line up with where Trump And Vance seem to be trying to go here in the final days. Well, vance two nights ago talking about we need to win back the trust to the Republican Party needs to win back the trust of women and the american people on this issue. So yes, i mean, its a its a bag of mixed messages thats for sure punishing the intention again is to try to throw enough out there to obfuscate. And again, just go back to the actual record. Hes The One who appointed the justices that overturned roe v. Wade. His record when it came to Womens Health as president was abysmal actually made it harder for poor women to access Health Care, let alone Health Care services for pregnant women. Well, and he did brag about appointing the justices that overturned back to the states, which is again, a whole other part of this that we need to remember all right, lets turn now to this Tuesday Nights Vice President ial debate and the candidates clash. That wasnt yeah, it was the craziest debate yet. They actually talked about policy yeah. Mr. Biden turned out to be polite, friendly, and intimate. It was jarring his grip. People were expecting a horror movie, but instead they got a hallmark movie. They go are they falling in love . Whats happening it was an overall cordial Vice President ial debate, but now with both Tim Walz and Jd Vance back on the trail, i guess the gloves have come back off because i just ask the simplest of all questions that that every single american should be able to answer. I asked him if Donald Trump lost the 2020 election said that he was friends with School Shooters twice and i said that was probably only the third or fourth dumb his comments, Tim Walz may that night you know, a debate without a crowd and speaking before rally, right . Youre going to see some of those niceties and that tone completely changed here. And youre also not going to see these candidates go into the Policy Deal tales like they did, you at the debate. You had them in the weeds at times on the debate on some of those policies . I dont think youre going to see that moving forward based off of what weve seen from these rallies. Now its about picking some of those different moments that can translate to viral clips. Sort of a verbal miscue, getting a Fact Wrong here. Thats going to be what what youre going to see them highlight moving for me. The thing that i keep turning over in my head is, you know, when i talk to when i was talking to sources about how this was all go there are a lot of people out there who didnt seem to have any question that they thought Tim Walz was a nice guy, right . Minister . Soda, nice. But the Jd Vance perhaps had some challenges in that department and that the fact that all the headlines coming out of it, were well, this was very cordial. They were so nice to each other and ultimately Benefit Vance at the end of the day . Yeah, i think so. I mean, you also have not Template A stereotypes when you had two Midwesterners Debating and it was a very different vibe able to maintain western nice is not actually that night with them during the debate. They were so happy with how it was going and it wasnt contrast with how he has presented himself on the Campaign Trail. It was a very different fans that showed up. It was advanced. I think we remember from when he was kinda pitching hillbilly Elegy And Sort of im presenting himself as kind of a nice kid from the midwest. You can explain whats going on, but i really what i was thinking about coming out of this debate was not so much 2024, and i hate to say this, but 2028 i think vance really did himself. A lot of favors for the next electron. Wheres walz, i mean, i think anybody, any, democrat who is thinking of running maybe in 2028 would have watched that and thought, okay, i think i could do a better job in the debates. The Wall Street Journal editorial board, which was very much against having vance be top of the ticket has has now now today its vance Cells Trump better than trump is there one i mean, thats no place you look at extremely well and he did himself a favor. And i think for 99 of the 100 minutes that that went on before we got to that final bid. Hands down Jd Vance won that debate, but we all know that most americans didnt watch it. 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