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Nasrallah. Could the u. S. Be drawn into a larger conflict with iran fire white House Adviser John Kirby is here next dark days, heated rhetoric from Donald Trump. Your town will be transformed into a third world hellhole. As he escalates false personal attacks kamala is mentally impaired. What might this mean for november South Carolina, Senator Lindsey Graham is coming up plus headtohead. The folks he governor whos lowering expectations. I had 24 kids and my high School Class and none of them went to yale, will debate an opponent who thrives on the fight we dont need to prepare for debate with tim waltz. What are the stakes for their Face Off . Everything we care about everything is under siege. Illinois Governor Jb Pritzker joins me exclusively hello im Jake Tapper in washington where the state of our union it his 37 days to go. Its the final sprint of the president ial campaign, and its still anybodys race yesterday, Donald Trump offered Wisconsin Voters a quote, Dark Vision Of The Future warning in apocalyptic terms about what his loss would mean and making the rather absurd claim that his Opponent Vice President Kamala Harris, has mentally disabled after Vice President harris gave a tough speech at the Southern Border in a remarkable Policy And Focus turnaround by the democratic nominee but this week outside events overshadowed the president ial campaign. The Southeastern United States is still struggling from the quote, biblical devastation wrought by Hurricane Helene, with dozens killed and six states and many lives still at risk because of rising floodwaters in north carolina. And profoundly destabilizing news from The Middle East where the lebanese have just recovered the body of hassan nasrallah, the leader of iranbacked hezbollah, which the u. S. Lets government considers a Terrorist Group who was killed by an israeli strike on friday. President biden said the killing gave nasrallah is victims and their families. A quote, measure of justice. But as israel struck more, hezbollah targets overnight, President Biden also called for a ceasefire in the region as us officials watched carefully for irans threatened retaliation for israel is death and the possibility that israel could move Ground Forces into lebanon joining me now to discuss White House national security Communications Advisor Admiral John Kirby. Admiral, thanks for joining us. So first of all, its President Biden glad that israel still took this action. I dont think anybodys mourning the loss of mr. Nasrallah, a known terrorist, a guy with american blood on his hands as well as israeli blood on his hands. This is a terrorist organization. He was a leader of it and i think people are safer without him walking around. But theyll try to recover. Were watching to see what they do to try to fill this leadership vacuum. Its going to be tough that much of their Command Structure has now been wiped out so the israeli strike targeting israel a flattened several large buildings in the heart of densely populated beirut, the suburb of beirut do you have any indication at all what the civilian Death Toll might be . I dont think we have an exact number, jake, we certainly assume that we go and go so far as to say we know that there are Civilian Casualties here. Theres no question about, i mean, dozens, hundreds, thousands dont think we can quantify it right now. Were in touch with our israeli counterparts about that. Each single civilian death is tragedy and certainly wow, again, nobody is mourning. Nasrallah as death. We certainly do more on any loss of civilian life. So before President Obama gave the order for Seal Team six to go in and take out bin laden. There was talk of an airstrike against the compound and the decision was made to not do so because they werent sure about the intelligence and b, because they were worried about obama was worried about Civilian Casualties the israelis wanted to different direction. Obviously their intelligence was solid but do you think israel made the right decision doing it the way they did it . Again, i think having decimated the Command Structure of hezbollah certainly works to the israelis advantage. Its actually good for the region, good for the world. Ill let the israelis speak to Decisionmaking Process they made why they chose to go this route we are continuing to talk to the israelis about what the right next steps are. And as you rightly said, in the opening here, the president continues to believe that there needs to be time and space for diplomacy, and that means wed like to see a ceasefire in place so that, that diplomacy can breathe iran condemned the killing of nasrallah and said the u. S. Is quote complicit in israels actions. How concerned is President Biden about the potential for a direct conflict . A director . A Military Conflict between israel and iran, and maybe even involving the united states or iran certainly has tried any number of things, including recently hacking President Trumps campaign, talking about it, an Assassination Attempt on President Trump how concerned is President Biden about a possible direct confrontation between the u. S and iran im concerned almost since the beginning of this conflict about it broadening, widening, becoming a regional war thats why again, the president and the g7 leaders, just a few days ago talked about trying to put calling for a 21 Day Ceasefire and everything else that the president s been doing, including jake adding forced capability, military of course it to the region is designed to prevent that exact outcome. Now, well watch and see. Weve seen the rhetoric coming out of tehran. Will watch and see what they do. We certainly will make sure that we have the capability to not only defend our troops and our facilities diplomats and military, as well as israel itself, if it comes to that, hopefully it wont. There was a State Department Spokesman the other day who said that he never he didnt know of any incident in recent history where Escalation Lead to deescalation and that is obviously a concern when it comes to these big strikes by israel. No matter how abhorrence the targets. If there are civilians that are taken out in the process do you agree that escalation seldom leaves leads to the escalation as the a State Department Spokesman said, i think we would agree on is that there needs to be an effort to deescalate here. Again, israel has a right to defend itself and a responsibility to do so. I mean hezbollah under mr. Nasrallah was a lethal threat to the israeli people. They want to yet their families back to those homes and kibbutzes in the north, we want to see that too. We believe and continue to believe that an allout war with hezbollah, a certainly with her on is not the way to do that. If you want to get those folks back home safely and sustainably, we believe that a diplomatic path is the right of course, the biden ministration, quite frankly seemed off caught off guard by the strike we were told that the president didnt find out about until planes were already in the air when the secretary of defense landed at andrews, he seemed to distance himself from the strike. He said to us was not involved in the operation and before that, the u. S. Thought that there had been buyin from prime Minister Netanyahu as to a ceasefire with hezbollah. But then ultimately, he was not on board. How strained relations between President Biden and prime Minister Netanyahu. These are two guys who have known Each Other for 40 years. Jake they have never and i suspect they will never agree on every single aspect of Foreign Policy and what were trying to get done in The Middle East. But they do agree on the Big Thing, the Big Thing is the Safety And Security of the state of israel. And trying to avoid an allout war that would put the people of israel at even greater risk. They agree on that theyre going to continue to talk and no be candid and forthright with one another. Israel, i think sometimes its easy to forget. Its a sovereign state. Its a small state, and they live in a really tough neighborhood and they suffered the worst Terrorist Attack in their history, almost exactly a year ago theyre under a lot of threat and we got to make sure that they know that america is going to continue to support them in beating back that threat that were going to keep the Force Capability we need to help defend them if possible. At the same time, have some tough conversations with them about how they do that and what the next when you say how they do that, what youre talking about is whether or not the israeli Government And Netanyahu who do enough to protect Civilian Casualties, whether or not they do enough to take into account. Sure innocent palestinians, innocent lebanese, and it doesnt sound as though the biden administration thinks netanyahu is taking that into an account, i will just say that we have had those tough conversations with our israeli counterparts since almost and we have made no bones about the fact that we dont necessarily see the tactical execution. The same way that they do in terms of protection. But the u. S. Keeps giving them weaponry, carry out these attacks. They are support for Israel Security is ironclad jake, thats not going to change. Were going to continue to make sure they can defend themselves again, this is an ally, this is a partner, and they are under attack. Every single day. If we were here in the united states facing those kinds of missiles and Drone Attacks from neighboring countries. I can guarantee the american people would want to make sure that we are doing what we can to protect them. And we are going to continue to do what we can to protect the israeli people. But that doesnt mean back to your first question about the Relationship Chip that these two men who have known Each Other a long time arent capable of having tough conversations with one another. And President Biden will continue to stand up for the right to protect civilian people, civilian infrastructure admiral kirby, thank you so much for being here. Really appreciate it. We are weeks away from the president ial election, from Election Day and Donald Trump is amping up his personal attacks and Foreboding Warning republican Senator Lindsey Graham joins me next. 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I kind of brands up to 70 off retail at Rula Law, law. Com at Rubella Yoyou never faithful sees deals on top before there shot. Today . Welcome back to state of the union. We are following all the latest news out of The Middle East, but also here at home, quote, Biblical Destruction left behind by Hurricane Helene, scenes of absolute, absolute madness with neighborhoods turned into lakes in some areas as the Death Toll climbs to more than 60 joining us now South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham, who represents thats one of the states hardest hit Hurricane Helene left millions in South Carolina without power, dozens dead across six states, i think in your state of South Carolina alone, there have been at least 23 stormrelated deaths that we know of how bad is the devastation there in South Carolina, getting everything from the federal government that it needs. We had a Conference Call yesterday. I appreciate what the federal governments doing. I think maybe dod may weigh in a little bit more massive recordbreaking, whatever adjective you can think of, 23 people dead. If you draw a line from Hilton Head to charlotte, Everything West of it is pretty well wiped out. Im going home this afternoon. Will Governor Mcmaster and greenville you know, tried to get into my house. Its just bad and we appreciate all the help and all the prayers and everyone in your world, your friends and for yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Everybodys Everybody is going to make it okay. Lets turn to The Middle East. Iran says that israels killing of the leader of hezbollah, hassan nasrallah, quote represents a serious escalation that changes the rules of the game unquote. Iran also says the u. S is complicit in iran, in israels actions, how worried are you that this . Latest strike by israel taking out in Israel And Hezbollah leadership could actually lead to a direct Military Conflict between the united states and iran where one missile away from civilians getting killed in israel and maybe israel having to hit iran. Blinken said the iranian nuclear program was weeks away from having a weapon potentially. I think what a runs learning per mole this is probably better to have a Nuclear Weapon that not their proxies or really been hurt hezbollah, hamas have really been hurt. So what i fear is theyll break out toward a Nuclear Weapon Thinking Desk to insurance policy. They dont have to the proxy. So thats its what i worry about the most today. Does israel going on the ground that they tried to push them back across the river by Military Force was the day after plan for gaza when did this happen october the seventh baby said in the un around through their proxies, Hamas Attacked israel to stop normalization between Saudi Arabia and israel. And let me just put a fine point. Well, let me just say that if thats true, if iran did the Hamas Attack on israel on October 7 stop the Normalization Process between the united states im sorry, between israel and Saudi Arabia. And apparently blinken was meeting literally that day, literally then has iran in some ways not succeed if this is not kind of mission accomplished for iran, if at the end of the day, the time passes the winter closes, theres no normalization between Saudi And Israel to end the arabisraeli conflict. What iran pills, fears the most, then yeah, theyve had a strategic win in the middle of all those killed so to my friends in israel, to my friends and Saudi Arabia bhbh gave a great speech about the benefits of the deal. Ive gone over since last april, 7 times trying to help this administration normalized between Saudi Arabia and israel do not give up, do not let a Ron Win do the deal. So let me ask you a question because you talked amount of possible israeli Ground Troop Incursion into lebanon. No decision has been made. We were told the last time israel invaded lebanon, nearly two decades, two decades ago, israeli troops that came bogged down, ultimately withdrew with really not much to show for it except high casualty he counts on both sides, including a lot of innocent lebanese civilians. Would a Ground Invasion of lebanon via mistake. I think a Ground Invasion to push them back across to i cant remember the name of the river right now to create a Buffer Zone is the goal of their Ground Invasion. So they cant do an October 7, the Red Wine Elite Brigade of him hezbollah, they need to be pushed back across that river is not going to be 2006. But how do you hold it when you stop military operations in gaza . Who takes over . Will that a Normalization Deal . The aerobes dont come in to reform the West Bank and take over gaza without some diplomatic solution, israel is going to be keep, Piling Parts 403040 miles of lebanon to create a Buffer Zone that to me is not the outcome. Our desire really in many ways, thats a win for iran so let me ask you, youre one of netanyahus most stalwart defenders in the united States Senate and i know israel has the right to defend itself. But when you see the images of dead palestinian kids babies in gaza, when you see the images of flattened buildings in beirut in the suburbs of beirut, i understand that hamas and hezbollah embed themselves within the populace. And that israel is defending itself. I understand all that. Whats your emotional reaction when you see well, well, not your ally carrying out, you know, and thats on Yahoo Ordering strikes that are killing innocent people. My emotional reaction is, i go back to iran. Its causing all of this. It breaks my heart to see any child killed thats a victim of this conflict. I am focused like a laser are taught to President Trump yesterday about this weve got to change the game. Theres nothing new about this game. You go into lebanon, you beat him up. He leave, you go into gaza, go in the West Bank is different this time but what, what makes it different is if you can get the aerobes finally, to take over the palestinian file, if you conclude a ron back in a box, trump had them in a box. This is a result of iran running wild, having 80 of sanctions relief. They used to build up hamas and Hezbollah Nobody in israel is even talking to the biden administration. The biden administration is paralyzed by fear of iran In The Name Of not escalating the world is On Fire. So i promise you, if trump does win, were going to fix this pretty quick. Lets talk about the Trump Campaign because i want to say, i want to play something. Trump said yesterday in a speech extensively about Vice President Kamala Harriss visit to the border lets take a Listen Kamala is mentally impaired Joe Biden became mentally impaired. Kamala was born that way. Have you think about it only a mentally disabled person could have allowed this to happen to our country okay. So first of all, there are actual people out there with mental impairments and thats insulting to them. Second of all, Vice President Kamala Harris is not mentally impaired. Know. I just think shes crazy liberal. I dont question her what do you think about. That rhetoric . I just think the better course to take has to prosecute the case that her policies or destroying the country. Theyre crazy liberal 400,000 people have been let loose in our country 16,000 people convicted of being a rapist 13,000 convicted murderers, and 400,000 people generally convicted of crimes were released on her watch. Is not going to get better. So i saw that statistic. We dove into it, our factchecker that statistic is actually over decades. So some of those people youre talking about are people that came into the country during Trump And Second of all, some of them are in prison, did a lot of them are in prison for not ice prisons, but federal prisons for their further for you, this, the man who killed Laken Riley in georgia was released by the bidenharris administration, own parole because they had no capacity at the border to hold him. Thats not a reason to parole people. I promise well, my shoe their men, women been raped and murdered. People have been hurt by legal immigrants released in this country without the tension, it is a nightmare. It is crazy, is crazy to boycott a speech by the Prime Minister of israel to a joint session of congress thinking it wont embolden iran crazy to withdrawal from afghanistan hoping things will be different this time medicare for all Green New Deal crazy stuff. Okay. Im not saying shes crazy. Ive saying your Party Policies or bat crazy. Okay. Well, theyre not my policies. And but theres a whole lot of things you said. I will just say she didnt boycott she has to Show Up. She didnt Show Up but lets focus on Trumps Rhetoric because thats what im actually asking you about because the problems will the world or not, Trumps Rhetoric. They call him crazy. Pelosi wanted to invoke the 25th amendment. Why dont you ever talk about that . So Donald Trump also said this at an event on friday if i lose, i Tell You what is possible because they cheat. Thats the only way were going to lose because they cheat. They cheat like hell. Okay. So in point of fact it is anybodys tell me if you disagree with any of the statements im about to make, important fact, harris could win or trump could win. Sure. Its anybodys race its razorthin and whoever wins in all likelihood, it will not be because they cheated. It will. I mean, i havent seen any evidence of any well, Mellon Barreling was problem with covid. I hope we fix that. I certify the last election because i listened to the allegations of ginning i thought it fell short in terms of changing the outcome. Im im more focused on Today And Tomorrow and heres what i would tell President Trump. When, people look at the state of play, they trust you on the economy, the border, inflation and Foreign Policy by wide margins focus on those, on those and dont call Kamala Harris mentally to say about that. Thats your advice. One last thing he has not agreed to do another president ial debate do you think that he should, for example, Kamala Harris has accepted Cnns Invitation if they want to do another president ial debate, hed liked the debate we did last time. He thought we were fair. He thought the rules were fair. Obviously, that was a very consequential debate. Should he do another debate . Im going to leave it up to him, but id like to see it myself because i think shes a mile wide and an inch deep look, whats going on in the world. The world is literally On Fire. They dont have a clue. Theyre paralyzed, but fear when it comes to ron, the world that trump left us when he left office was Mortgage Rates below 3 a secure Border Peace agreements. Note, no war anywhere. I would like to see her explain how shes going to change things when shes been in charge for four years and hasnt changed anything. Id like to know from her Point Of View what did happen in the mideast. Why do you think the world is On Fire . Why do you think russia invaded ukraine . Have you not figured this out yet that youre awake in the eyes of all of our enemies and heres what i would say to trump. If you Do It, if you did do debate her, she is a mile wide and an inch deep and you can prove that. 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Morgan stanley can a personal loan unlocked your ambitions . Oh, yeah consolidate bad debt and save money for your next goal. Special event, the Place President ial debate. Tuesday at nine the union. Im Jake Tapper while the democratic Vice President president ial nominee, minnesota governor Tim Walz is in michigan right now preparing for his tuesday debate. Vice president harris is taking a quick break from the Blue Wall states for a swing out west, which he gave a tough speech on immigration at the Southern Border, joining us now from arizona where he is campaigning for the Harriswalz Ticket, Illinois Governor Jb Pritzker and Gov Sinner obviously, senator graham Lindsey Graham has some strong views on this campaign, saying that Kamala Harris, Vice President harris is a mile wide and an inch deep, and that she believes she has a belief in policies that are quote, im quoting here, batshit crazy, wanted to give you an opportunity to defend the ticket and they have nothing on their side to talk about. Thats good for everyday americans, for Working Families. Thats why theyre just named calling. That is what this is all about. You heard Donald Trump talk about mental impairment yesterday. I think whenever he says things hes like that hes talking about himself. But trying to project it onto others and all i can say is that with a policy like a 6,000 Child Tax Credit that will help young families 25,000 to help people who are firsttime homebuyers with the downpayment, 50,000 Tax Break for people who are starting small businesses. Those are real policies that are good for americans everywhere in there economic opportunity oriented policies. Again, you hear nothing out of Donald Trump mostly its about a big Tax Break for the wealthiest americans when you hear the republicans talk, i dont think thats what everyday folks are looking for when they go to the polls over the next 40 days. So she had Vice President harris is in Arizona Yesterday to try to shore up an issue where she is vulnerable, at least according to polls, immigration and Border Security in her speech, she she doubled down on the issue of Border Security, said she would expand President Bidens crackdown on asylum seekers, which started earlier this year. That is quite a reversal well, from her position in 2019 when she was running for president , when she supported decriminalizing illegal Border Crossings entirely. Why do you think voters who care about this issue should believe her now, when she says shes going to address this Border Crisis as a moderate or as even center, right . Kind of position, especially when this Crisis Spiral out of control on the biden and administrations watch been massive migration all throughout the world. People literally moving from one country to another. And that began to increase significantly over the last four years. So its natural, of course that you adapt your policies to me it the moment and what commonly harris has put forward is that she would stand up for the bipartisan Border Security bill that Donald Trump torpedoed lets get some perspective here. 40 years, weve tried to get some comprehensive immigration reform. It needs to be bipartisan because we havent had a senate thats had more than 60 members which is the Filibuster Limit of either party. And the result is that weve had no bipartisan effort on immigration. We finally under Joe Biden got Senator Lankford and total of 75 senators behind a Border Security bill in unit oh torpedoed that, Donald Trump. So we got to pay attention to the fact that Kamala Harris has actually trying to solve problems Donald Trump has been all about Donald Trump and his Election Efforts that effort, the lankford bill, Et Cetera that was in the last year. I mean, this has been a crisis that started in the first year of the biden administration. And i know just from having covered it, that the White House was rather dismissive of it and thought that this was just repeating rightwing talking points, Et Cetera. Vice president Kamala Harris was in charge of going to the Central American countries, addressing the root causes, but shes only been to the border before yesterday. Shed only been there once. It does seem as though the administration just in the last year has realized, oh, we need to really do something about this. But what about before . What about 2021, 2022, 2023 was, you know, im from chicago. Im from illinois. We saw an influx of migrants there and you heard me talk about that over the last two years. One of the big challenges ive been intimately yeah, in discussions with the White House about what to do, look, its a challenging issue to resolve without legislation thats been the problem for 40 years where republicans, democrats, not working together so in order to Do It without legislation, youve Gotta Go negotiate with all the countries that are south of us from which those migrants are coming to make sure that there are policies in those countries that will keep them from moving north and steadily toward the border. And then piling up against our border that is a problem because the president does not have the power to shut down the border that could have been something in the Border Security bill that became law. But president doesnt have that so you can only Do It with a combination of policies and working with those countries that is not an easy thing to do. You cant just overnight announced that youre going to Do It. Youve got to actually get those countries to agree. So it took a couple of years, frankly, for the administration of working behind the scenes to get that done while they were also trying to get bipartisan legislation. And they came this close again, that was Donald Trump that torpedoed so youre in arizona and much of your focus on the campaign trail. There is Abortion Rights, a New York Times poll this week found that 58 of arizona voters plan to vote for a Ballot Measure that would codify a constitutional right to abortion up to 24 weeks. The poll also showed, however, that the economy remains a top concern for voters in that state. They preferred Donald Trump over. Weve Kamala Harris on that issue by 17 percentage points. Are you worried that support for Abortion Rights in arizona will not translate to support for harris in this critical state look, people, No One is really a single issue voter, right . Theyve got a number of things they go into the Ballot Box thinking about before they pull the lever for one candidate, Abortion Rights, theres going to be very important one. I help to get that on the ballot here in arizona through think big america very important that Abortion Rights are protected across the country. The economy also matters and thats why the policies of the Harriswalz Campaign and the administration that they will put together are about creating opportunity for everybody. We call it an Opportunity Economy because once again, were trying to help people everyday americans, Working Families who just need a little hand up, a little help to get by and the Trump Administration while they were in office, did absolutely nothing except give a massive Tax Break to the wealthiest americans, Kamala Harris and tim Walz Plan to put dollars into the pockets of every day, folks people who are hardworking americans, and to help the most vulnerable, i think the policies that theyve put forward, and again, shes only been the candidate for well, frankly, for five weeks since the democratic convention. But if youd take it all the way, maybe ten weeks total since the beginning. And so getting the message out about the Opportunity Economy that shes advocated for, i think has been the key. And i see it on the ground. Im getting here, its 117 degrees outside and yesterday i was at during that heat at a canvas than 100 people came out to a Canv I117 Degree heat to knock doors to make Phone Calls its to advocate for the Harriswalz Campaign. Shes going to win in arizona. And when she wins in arizona, that frankly torpedoes the entire Trump Campaign. Well say polls have her down right now. Governor pritzker, thank you so much for joining us from arizona. We really appreciate it Saturday Night live is back from Summer Hiatus and Saturday Night live has entered the chat and well roll the tape my panel joins me now i say to my husband, doug, when he leaves his phone at the chiles tiny Homes Trend not for me. Now, this is more like it, the same goes for my Foot Work through. 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Tuesday might be like i cant wait to debate the guy that is, if hes willing to get off the couch and Show Up, we dont need to prepare for a debate with Tim Walz, people like j. D. Vance know nothing about smallTown America. Everything that comes out of his mouth about his Military Service is at least 25 ally. And these guys are just weird. Talk about weird with Tim Walz so i have to say, i dont think i can recall a time that the two Vice President ial nominees really seem to dislike Each Other. This much, even though i dont think theyve probably never even met. But like going back, i Cant Think of a Biden Palin know cheney, edwards know. I mean, they really seem to know just that the Tone And Tenor though of where we are in 2024 campaign, when you have Donald Trump at the top of the ticket, i think that adds to the dynamic also, but thats also one of the reasons why these guys were picked. Both of them are fighters they are. And but youve seen a really interesting strategy by j. D vance leading up to this, he is using his rallies not just for stump speeches, but to start taking questions from reporters. And hes using the crowd as well to try and if theyre asking on any number of get into this kind of combative backandorth with reporters this kind of worries me a little bit going into the Vp Debate for him because he is he going to be overly combative with the moderator or with Governor Walz because weve seen it Donald Trumps first debate in the last cycle. If you get too combative, they can really get off the rails and hes not going to have that Crowd Feedback the way that trump really likes that will that be an advantage or a disadvantage . More when hes trying to do deliver the strong message because he has been absolutely one of the strongest surrogates and voices for Donald Trump. Think what ive noticed about all of this theres never been a time that i can recall before now where the Vice President ial pick up been so consequential, consequential to the actual top of the ticket. You look at j. D. Vance was supposed to somehow expand Donald Trumps reach instead, he actually done more Damage Harm than good. But you look at Governor Walz, the reason why its smart, smart pick the reason why he was picked is to bridge the cultural divide, to reach out to constituencies at the democratic partys had problems reaching moderate republicans disaffected republicans independent republicans you know, hes signaling to a constituency that you can vote for this ticket. So hes incredibly consequential to Kamala Harris. I heard a short while from your friend, Scott Jennings over here. Im sorry what do you what are you chortling about . Oh, well, first of all, i dont find them to be constantly second of all, walz as a buffoon, im sorry, this guy. Hes the only School Teacher in america who brags that none of his students can get into an Ivy League school. He said one consequential Press Interaction with our Dana Bash, who asked him about the fabrications in his own resume and his answer was essentially amino understand words good. I mean, it is a buffoon hes on our hes on a free ride, sky for running under harris, he gets very little press. They dont let him talk to the press for a reason. I want one thing out of this debate. I want j. D. Vance to go out there and get under his skin. He has legendary hot short temper. A lot of governors do, but he apparently he does. I want j. D. Vance to go out there and have him explain mean why he is denigrating jd vances story, small Town America ends up making something better out of his life, which is something we should want for every kid. Walz will do is to use jd vances words against him. Remember he used to tell the truth about Donald Trump. You call them americans. Hitler said he had thoroughly failed to deliver on economic plan that hes cultural heroin. So thats what i expect him to do, which is to make this point about j. D vance, you Cant Trust this guy. Hes a fraud. Now. Hes singing a different tune. He just like Donald Trump, you Cant Trust it was one thing i just want to bring up on the same topic is that for whatever reason, Tim Walz has a notably higher positive Rating And Favorability rating than he has been advanced does September 19 to 22nd Cnn Poll of registered voters, walz favorable 36 unfavorable, 32 . Thats a Net Plus for j. D. Vance favorable 30 unfavorable, 42 , and its a net negative 12. Thats a margin of error of three yeah, look, and actually, negative also, abc has shown 11 points since he became the nominee and 11 Point Increase is because of the Cat Lady Thing. I think its because of a number of things hes basically saying hes Denigrating Women By saying, if youre if you dont have children, you shouldnt have a role. You should have less of a say in government if you yes, the Cat Lady Thing is very derogatory. And his instinct is to dig in harder rather than just say, you know, i shouldnt have said that. Heres what i really meant about the main story about the cats, right . Well, let me another but heres heres the thing about that though. I want him to have to answer tough questions about that because that is actually dangerous. Were talking about elevating this man. I mean, given Donald Trumps age, i think its very fair to look at him and say he could be president. And he literally said to Dana Bash he made that story up. We have reporting that shows his office knew that it wasnt true and he used anyway to essentially damon and denigrate haitians. And heres the problem, jake. It is put childrens lives in danger, not just in springfield. Theres reporting this morning about how this is now spreading. To indiana, florida, and other parts of the country where you have haitian migrants are in many cases, these children are americans i think in this instance, were going to be looking at is the fact that j. D. Vance needs to be on his game. He is the reason he was selected was to be the Maga Heir apparent. He was the one who is going to continue on the maggots. So of course hes combative. Hes aggressive. Thats the style he is reflective of the top of the ticket. I think thats true for both of these. You see that Tim Walz is little or soft spoken and you see that j. D. Vance, but the Big Thing here is going to be the Policy Conversation because there is still a large sect of voters who want more from Kamala Harris, they arent hearing it can walz be able to deliver that . So ashley has a new oped out this morning when you offer some advice to Kamala Harris, you say first, cut back on the incessant focus on mr. Trump by now, almost everyone who could be persuaded by the case against him has hurt its second trade, the massive rallies for a series of smaller Town Hall Style events in battleground states. Third, she should launch the partys first largescale paid social media influencer campaign. And finally, Ms Harris needs to do more interviews. I rarely agree with republicans, but this is essential to close Voters Knowledge Gap about thats actually not the final did that one for you, scott, what youre saying thats not in the New York is not they took it out by nevertheless, only because it was more than just recalled that they were making the point. So heres heres what i think one, let me just start by saying, i humbly offer these suggestions. She has been doing has really a remarkable job. I mean, its unprecedented. The impact that shes had in such a short period of time, 500 plus million dollars, shes close the gap with trump in six weeks in some polls is outpacing him but heres the thing. I think the question that the Vice President has to answer, which is why, why her why now, why is she the leader for this moment . And i like to hear a Do It without even mentioning Donald Trump. The reason why i suggest to not mention him, hes like a fire. How do you put out a fire . You suffocated, dont give it any oxygen the second point is she needs to be put into more intimate setting. I was in those rooms or her walz . Yes, i was in those rooms with her in the White House. Shes compassionate. She is funny. Shes warm, she sees people. She has a heart for their circumstances and they need to put that on Display Rick Scott . Settings on unscripted interactions, very dangerous for your former boss. I understand why theyre doing what theyre doing is setting in 2019, Record Setting Townhall record gdb, make it to 2021 Point Counterpoint well be right back. Yeah losing weight and keeping same discover the power of wegovy have been the gobi i lost 35 pounds and some lost over 46 pounds. 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