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Kamala harris go to the border and talks tough on immigration. And Donald Trump, will voters buy it . Plus The Middle East on a knifes edge tonight, new fears of a Ground Invasion in lebanon. As israel targets the leader of hezbollah did they take them out . And as you ron about to step in and a natural Disaster Unfolding in real time as Helene Drowns Parts of the southeast, the destruction and the stories of Survival Tonight on Laura Coates live republicans have been shouting about for years, a Congress Visit to the border, the place Donald Trump sees as his Strength And Key to his chances in november. So tonight, harris went there. It was our firsttime with the u. S. Mexico border since june of 20 any 21 and laws are firsttime as the democratic nominee for President Permission Bridge the gap between how voters see her and trump on immigration her message a promise to up the ante on Border Security i will take further action to keep the border closed between ports of entry. Those who cross our border unlawfully will be apprehended and removed and barred from reentering for five years. We will pursue Morris Criminal Charges against repeat violators. And if someone does not make an Asylum Request at a legal point of entry, and instead crosses our border unlawfully they will be barred from receiving asylum she didnt just try to steal trumps thunder by sounding tough on the border she also went after him directly he separated toddlers out of their mothers arms put children in cages and tried to end protections for dreamers he made the challenges at the border worse. And he is still and he is still fanning flames of Fear And Division she also called map for tanking the bipartisan Border Deal earlier this year. Now, harrison have much time to change voters mind on one of her major vulnerabilities. Were just 39 days out from election. And by the way, if youre in a state that has early voting, its like T Minus Something for you but the polls do show her slowly Lee Eroding the Gap On Immigration he shoots repeatedly dog democrats under the Bidenharris Administration and situation at the border has been chaotic over those four years, but crossings have fallen since biden to executive negative action this very summer there now at their lowest point since 2020 funny now, trump for his part, is not say get any of this quietly. He is suggesting that harris could pressure biden to do more. He says they could have taken Executive Action years ago and asked for that Border Deal do you want to save him . She could salvage make up some lies like she said, about the Border Bill that trump stopped. Let me tell you. Number one, i didnt stop it. The senator stopped at he calls it a lie. But then theres this from when it all went south a lot of the senators are trying to say respectfully, theyre blaming it in me. I said thats okay. Please blame it on me. Please. Because they were getting ready to pass a very bad bill. He did blame it still are joining me now, democratic strategist meghan hays, republicans tragedies. Liam donovan, and the host of the Clay Cane Show on Sirius Xm. Clay cane, glad to have all of you here this evening on this friday night, liam lady, begin with you if i can, because harris is sounding a lot tougher on illegal immigration trying. Shes trying to flip the script on Immigration Terms of polling and how she is viewed will voters buy that was the recognition of the weaknesses that she does have. She is the two areas that trump has an edge on immigration and economy youve seen the 82 page economic plans im out on theyve been trying to press that. This is trying to do the other side, which is the immigration piece. Its interesting to see that Split Screen of trump in the Rust Belt where harris is ahead and harris down in arizona where trump is ahead. These are these are on each others turf. I think immigration is obviously going to be an issue that trump needs to push the advantage on. Harris is not going to win on that, but she can neutralize it hes on the cusp of doing just that. So i think going there sounding tough, thats trying to achieve the mission and oh, shes, shes off to a good start. While Meghan Lee bring you in here because weve now seen harris try and go on offense on the economy. Meghan on immigration, all while hitting trump on reproductive rights and abortion, is that going to be there . Of Core Strategy for this final wet 39 days look, i think that there e to these candidates are going to try to do whatever they can to just peel voters off from whatever topic they can. I think thats why shes down at the border and giving a Speech Today shes not going to hit people who this is their Number One issue. Shes not going to ever convince those people that shes going to be tougher on the border than trump. But she can convince there are folks that this is theyre soft on this issue, so shes she did an excellent job of doing that today. She had some really good salient point. Shes drawing the contrast between her and trumps Leadership Style as well. And shes going to also hit On The Issues that democrats are extremely popular on abortion and womens reproductive rights. And shes also closing the gap on the economy. So here it is each of them are easter just trying to peel voters away as were getting closer and closer to november and closer we are 39 days and play kaylee, bring you in here. My Sirius Xm buddy. How you doing like trump cannot seem to figure out what stands he wants to have on this bipartisan senate Border Bill. Did he stop it . Did he not should be blamed . Should they not . I mean, he saying it was the senators who did it is he feeling a little bit of the heat from harris attacks . Always certainly is. And heres what i like about Vice President Kamala Harris going to the border. Its all about the contrast, right . We have Vice President Kamala Harris at the border talking about the american people, talking about policies and plans tends and we have Donald Trump this week and contrasts trying to sell watches for 100,000. So i think what we see is somebody who has president ial and somebody who was a Grifter Somebody who obviously doesnt care about the border, doesnt care about immigrants who are here legally are quote unquote, illegally, unless he believes are eating cats and dogs he only cares about himself. That is the stark contrast that i saw with Vice President Kamala Harriss speech. While trump was at a Town Hall Tonight in michigan, limb, and he was promoting to Clays Point a better off with Trump Message to voters. Listen to this your Energy Bills will be five or 50 lower one year from January 20 they talk about whats at the checkout counter, the groceries, and were going to get it all down. I consider it one of the most beautiful things ive ever seen. The word tariff. I love it. I think i mean, economists are finding someone whos proposals a little bit headscratching. I mean, im not going to judge when you find beautiful, he thinks the word tariffs is beautiful. I have different criteria for beauty, but thats just me, liam will they win him any votes though that he already doesnt have . Well, i think if you think back to how he won michigan in the first place, which is cracking through that Blue Wall there in 2016. That was a big big part of that pitch, was him talking differently than standard republicans on issues like trade if he wants to reprise it again, he needs to talk to those same oddities has using those same themes. I think the interesting thing there is that having robert f. Kennedy there before him speaking, actually saying, dont vote for me. Remember michigan is Keeping Rfk on the ballot. And so a lot of this is going to come down to really small margins there. And trying to maximize his vote there and getting up to as high as he can with those meshes, with those themes but i think rfk reinforces that, but its an interesting time. He needs to pick up one more state. I think that the sunbelt states he has he needs to crack into pennsylvania, michigan, or wisconsin. And i think michigans one of the ones that looks the best i mean, imagine that clay, someone saying, dont vote for me. I mean, i know im no vote with a new strategy on thank you. Obviously know the reasons why hes may be trying to get the administration, but lets just go to that point about different state. Lets go North Carolina for a second, clay because theres some breaking News Tonight that we are learning that North Carolina Lieutenant Governor Mark Robinson, who is running for governor he has been hospitalized tonight after an incident at a campaign event. No further details as of now, but this is another twist in an already tumultuous race how critical do you think robinsons struggling Campaign Clay will be in the president ial is when you wrote about him in your New York Times Bestseller book. Well, thoughts and prayers to Mark Robinson i will say that Mark Robinson, i rang the alarm about him in my book he is another grifter. He is a liar. He is shameful. And whats really sad, whats really sad, laura, is that they knew exactly who he was even before the disgusting things that came out recently, they all knew who he was and you know, trump said that he was dr. King On Steroids when really Mark Robinson is Herschel Walker On Steroids. But they didnt care. This is the kind of person that he ella they elevated a former Factory Worker who had no political experience but went viral for insulting black Panther And Michelle obama. So hes bringing the ticket down and i want to say to all my friends out there who are black republicans are black conservatives this is what they think of you. They would rather have the likes of Mark Robinson in their party than the likes of colon pow. This is what they think he is dragging down the ticket. And im going to say this all On The Air with you. I predict a north Carolina Win for Vice President Kamala Harris. The Way President obama won and 2008. Thank you. Mark robinson well, unsurprisingly, meghan, you are nodding and theres a bit of a smile that i see trashing across your face on that prospect. I mean, theres a new Cnn Poll that is showing Harris And Trump actually tied neither is really leading is a Type 48 . Obama did win The State in 2008 to Clays Point, but its gone red in the past three president ial elections. And so could this be harris is most competitive, Sun Belt State . She absolutely its an striking distance of winning in North Carolina, and i think that theyve got the Governors Race is not helpful to republicans. And just its more beneficial for the Vice President to have an opportunity to play here. Also, they have an incredible War Chest of money that they are able to spend in North Carolina and incredible Organizing Operation and the campaign that they are able to knock on doors but not on in North Carolina in a way that other campaigns, they dont have the funds to do that. Cannot compete. So, you know, it is within striking distance and i wouldnt be surprised if you saw if you saw the Vice President when North Carolina this time around well, im still really curious as to what has happened with Mark Robinson. We dont have any information as to what this incident is and why hes been hospitalized. And so ill be eager to learn more information and bring that to each of you when we know. Thank you all for joining thank you tonight, new explosions, Rocking Beirut as Israel And Hezbollah inch closer to an All Out War Up next the new fairs, the situation is about to spiral out of control. Nobody on cnn has arrived. We look at the news of the week and asked questions like, what does Family Show doing on cnn though people have spoken i have something racist you go to hell oh, wait up. Freestyle. Thats too much want donald. Now, can you splice them news, for you tomorrow at nine on Cnn And Stream next day on max when it comes to amgen, life, changing medical breakthroughs, every second counts but without investment, those breakthroughs are often past cities seamlessly connected looking markets and services, businesses deliver global financial solutions. 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Women cradling, Sleeping Babies and toddlers and children, wandering through the streets. The israeli military has been providing warnings an hour and a half before their strikes. But these people still have nowhere to go one of the people telling afp they were only given 30 minutes to evacuate before the explosions israeli official telling cnn, hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah was the target of the strike. And right now his fate is still unknown i want to get right to cnn political and national Security Analyst David Sanger and cnn military analyst, colonel cedric leighton. Thank you both for being here as were trying to unpack all that its happening in real time. David, hezbollah is backed by iran as is hamas. And this is right now a two front war that were all watching unfold how fragile is this but certainly in The Middle East right now well, its fragile its escalating. And of course these attacks, laura came just a few hours after the speech that prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu gave at the un, he then immediately returned to israel. And during that, he dwelled on iran at length, and warned iran. But also made it clear that he was rejecting the international calls led by the united states, britain, france, the other G7 Members other nations to do this, a 21 Day Ceasefire so his response to that, which has been led by his largest ally, the united states, which has provided most of the weapons was to basically say, were going to keep Bombing And Firing along the way here and they were clearly aiming at decapitating the leadership. We just dont know whether they got Hassan Nasrallah, who has been the leader as pull out for since 1982 i mean, david worst looking at the screen right now, were seeing its about six sweat in the morning in lebanon, youre seeing a big cloud of smoke over the area in Beirut And Israel is saying that a lot of the strength of hezbollah actually comes from their leader Hassan Nasrallah. That we still dont know if he is safe or not, but what does it mean for israel to be going after this person well, its quite a remarkable thing that they are going right for the leader because you can imagine what the response is going to be. It was just a few days ago that we saw the first attacks on directly on Tel Aviv the hezbollah has a of weapons that can reach Tel Aviv, but the fear here obviously is that if they are successful in getting those rod that the next thing would be a Counter Strike against major israeli cities weve already seen the pager attack. Then there was the walkietalkie explosions. Those were directed at hezbollah leadership. I do wonder how much capability does the organization still have given there was already intention by them to disengage from the communications shes apparatus as they used to use because of the fear of the explosions. And now youve got their leader being targeted in this fashion is there a great deal of capability still . Were still trying to figure that out. The israelis maintained that they have wiped out about half of the missiles that they believe were stored by this Terrorist Group by hezbollah around beirut It Surroundings i dont know how you measure that. And of course its not simply a question of what they have destroyed, but whether theyve gotten the most capable weapons colonel leighton. I want to bring you into this discussion because these strikes in beirut, i mean, thats a massive population centers about 2 Million residents i mean, isnt even conceivable that you could avoid Civilian Casualties in a situation like this . No, its not laura and thats one of the things thats really critical to understand about this. The types of weapons that the israelis are using are weapons that would normally be used on the battlefield. Thats what they were designed for in this particular situation, you are using them for the israelis are using them in urban area, in an urban setting. And when you use thousand pound bombs, which is probably what was used in this case, that creates a lot of destruction as we can see right here. And it also creates a great risk of Civilian Casualties. Weve seen how theyve done this in gaza. It will seeing what theyre doing in beirut root i in this particular instance. And it really shows not only the power of these weapons, but it also shows the risk to the civilian Population Bible is ordering the pentagon to assess their force posture. Theyre calling it is asking msas to take protective measures is there a chance . Americans getting swept up into this conflict as this continues to seemingly grow well, let on his head a history of sweeping us into conflicts all the way back to the 1950s. And its something that we have to be very careful of. Many of us remember what happened to the marines in the early 1980s . Hezbollah was behind that particular attack as though it is very possible that we could get involved in this. And i think the administration is trying very hard to keep us out of something like that. David sanger, colonel cedric leighton, both. Thank you so much thank you. You bet weve got an update to the breaking news. We told you at the top of the hour, weve now learned that North Carolina Lieutenant Governor Mark Robinson is at a hospital being treated for burns burns. There was an Incident And Rally earlier today, according to his campaign, his spokesperson did not elaborate, but does say that robinson is in good spirits while haleine Tearing A Path Of Destruction across the southeast, plunging some areas and several feet of water ahead the dramatic pictures and the stunning warning from officials North Carolina tonight. And later at some much needed levity. How does this florida man make it out . And how has he made out after riding out Last Night . 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The Hospital Ceo telling Cnn Tonight that everyone was eventually rescued and atlanta double Digit Rainfall totals, they brought severe flooding, putting entire communities completely underwater, leaving water rescues as the only way to get folks its out of their homes in areas near and around asheville, North Carolina. The flooding is so bad that entire neighborhoods were washed away. Here you see a roof floating in the water. The flooding. It is simply catastrophic. A row of apartments were the first story was nearly entirely submerged and tonight, the States Department of Transportation Warning Everyone that all roads in the western part of The State should be considered closed. Thats how bad it is right now Nasa Southeast faces helenes rack tonight moodys estimates the Property Damage will be north north of 20 Billion we look at the destruction people faced in the steinhatchee, Florida Area Today from devastating floodwaters and in tampa, the water Last Night inundated the home of this man, matt heller. I spoke to him live at the height of The Storm and that was documenting the flooding in the Tampa House while paddling around on a kayak it was my Escape Plan in Case Stuff got to harry, we think we have we have two kayaks. I didnt think i was going to need it in my Living Room like i was floating around. The water is not going to receive until about 1 30 p. M. Tomorrow im sure its still going i dont i dont know. Ive never dealt with such a cleanup like this cant say im looking forward to it. But again, we have our Health Positivity and humor in the face of a rough situation. I mean, it strikes such a chord with so many of you, a viewer even tweeted to ask, laura, could you do a follow up Tomorrow Night with Purple Kayak . Matt heller . I sure can because matt joins me once again. Matt. Thank you for being here last time we spoke. Your Living Room was flooded. Tell me about what the morning brought. Has the water receded . Hey, good evening, laura. Yeah. I was actually luckily, i was wrong. And the water flew out of here real quick. I eventually called it a night at around 4 00 a. M. When the power went out and the Power Kick back down about 5 00 a. M. And i ran downstairs real quick because i wasnt able to film stuff with no light and i was worried about concerns during my battery and all the water had rushed out within 45 minutes. Easy, come, easy. Go. I suppose you could say thats great news there, right. But look at what it left behind, went the water moved away youve got quite a cleanup right now. How about the hippel . Your neighborhood is everyone even okay its a mess. My home is one of the lowest ones because its one of the older homes. So it definitely had the most damage. But everyones been struggling with it. I had some sea creatures. I had an eel, i found in my garage as well as a bunch of Little Fish and such. I tried to get everything back into the water but yeah it didnt work out so well for them. Its just super tragic what ive seen with these other casualties and the Property Damage. So im just really happy we got by unscathed for the most part, or its just some financial stuff. But like i said, Last Night, still have our health, so thats great. Yes, thats amazing in spirit, but i understand that you also did i read you got electrocuted Last Night. What happened . Yeah yeah. While he was on tiktok, i had these little Security Cameras around the home and have a status late on him and i saw that the light was off in the plug was actually under the water while i was on the tiktok live, i went to just go unplug it so i can pull the Memory Card out of the camera to get the video and i got a little bit of a shocking surprise there. The outlet was still energized so super, super, super scary stuff because again im down there in the kayak thinking that oh, the breaker worked or the gfr tripped and all the safety mechanisms work, but it was still on so yeah, i got a little bit of a zap super super scary stuff for a second there i thought youre telling me the email did it and i was going to say, okay, i know if i feel better about it being an eel or not an email or this or what it is. And we also talked about, of course, you were talking about your business. Youre really concerned as many people in the area are. Its not just their homes, but also their livelihoods. Any updates . Sure. Yeah. My Company Horn blasters had a ton of water in the warehouse is well, we had a couple little roof leaks. I went to Work Today at 9 00 a. M. Cleaned up from 5 00 a. M. To 9 00 a. M. Went to work at nine and its just been an uphill battle. But again, we didnt have any damage much product or anything. Most of my employees, everyone pretty much came to Work Today. So that was good and its Business As Usual thats unbelievable to me thinking about what you havent in front of you wheres the kayak though . I see that didnt get washed away. He did it no thanks to thank goodness. I still have it downstairs and yeah, it was my cherry for the night you mentioned to me Last Night, beings selfinsured and thinking about the cleanup, everything else how expensive is this going to be i dont know. This is actually the third time that the house has flooded. Never. This aggressively i mean, i just wish next time i remodel it, hopefully it will be the last time i want to use some stuff that i wont need to replace the event that this happens again because im definitely see the trend here and its just wearing me out with all of these repairs and work. I just want a nice, normal home i think you want to leave florida no. No, i would never i got my family here and my business. So i mean, dont get me wrong if it gets really warmed up near sometimes these storms arent the most Fund Thing to deal with, but im still just still just a florida man through and through. Well, you got such a positive ad to everyones looking forward to seeing the full recovery for you, your community, and everyone around you. So thank you so much for giving us an update and please stay safe still. Okay. Yes, maam. Thank you so much, laura matt. Hello, everyone well lets go north then. 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Adams appearing in Court Today to plead not guilty to federal corruption charges and as that was happening investigators with the manhattan das office searched the home of one of his closest advisers, ingrid lewismartin they also seized two Cell Phones from her at the airport, right when she landed from a vacation in japan is not clear if this is related to the Adams Case at all. And ingrid lewismartin denies any wrongdoing, but it does add to the growing list of people within the Inner Circle of atoms who have now been searched which by investigators now for his part, adams denies any wrongdoing and he is vowing to keep his job. Only a handful of prominent democrats have even called on him to run but a source tells cnn, new York Governor Kathy Hochul is considering the possibility of removing adams from office. She can do that by the way, under State Law. Now, publicly of chlorus, all she said that she hopes adams will find quote, an appropriate path forward not really. The ring door shrimp for that adams wants to hear. But the question is, if adam resigns or is even pushed out, then what what who will become the mayor of new york . Oh the job would fall to my next guest, new York City public advocate, jumaane williams. Jomana. Thank you so much for being with us. What a turn of events this past few days. You might, the mayor says that hes not going anywhere. Would you support Governor Hochul using her powers under State Law to remove him from office . Well, peace in blast and loved, like to you. Thanks for having me. I think first and foremost, its important to say this is a sad moment for hoax in new York City. This is not an easy thing. Its been a painful time period. And i just have to say that we are clear that the right to defend yourself. And the Presumption Of Innocence before someone says youre guilty is really paramount in our system and that doesnt change regardless of who charged. Thats a separate conversation, then under the weight of whats happening, does the mayor have the ability to continue to govern effectively . And two to make sure that the trust is being eroded is restored, and thats questions that i think the mayor has to ask himself and really have a Soul Searching about whether you can do that and he can he should present a plan on how thats going to happen. And if you do it really quick do you think he can actually govern effectively with the wait and one of the indictment but also the people who have left the administration what from my vantage point, its really difficult to see what that plan looks like. But again, he the federal government has the duty to, to prove his case. I think what he has a duty to provide that plan. So thats what were asking. If this is the direction were gonna go how are you going to do that . And those are legitimate . The questions. And my public advocate, its really pushed for to make sure that the people of the city no that there is a plan for every eventuality, and that City Government is going to continue and we shot out the hundreds of thousands of Public Sector workers will make sure that happens even in a time of confusion you know, people are already thinking in spite of the Presumption Of Innocence, in spite of how youve articulated this just now, what the possibility could be if he were no longer to be the office as mayor for the duration of his term. And i tried a Special Election would have to be held within 90 days and any number of people could run including former governor andrew cuomo. How do you keep it from becoming chaotic when the floodgates are undoubtedly going to open well, you know, i think the former governor was talking about running even possibly if it was a primary depending on the circumstances. I think thats a particular concern and thats probably discussion for a different day. But again, i think most people want to know is a garbage going to be picked up is 31, which is a service the city and 911 gonna be answered if people call it and thankfully, the constitution of the city provides for contingency plans. That are going to make sure that happens thanks to the 100,000 Public Sector workers and my colleagues in government. And thats what we want to make sure whatever the Adventure Eventuality happens, theres a plan to make sure government im going to services and continued. And thats really what im focused on theres a Government Services and then theres the integrity of the office, which is obviously very important to voters. And those who would like to ensure that whoever is holding that position knowing that the position of public trust, they can actually trust that person as well. And you know, there are people who are are going to raise their hand. Perhaps you will as well as being in the line of succession. Cuomo, for example, he resigned after report from The Ag accused him of Sexual Harassment of i think 11 women would that ensured that disqualify him from even entering into the fray . Well, i think there are legal barriers of what people can do to enter the fray, as you say, thats not necessarily one of them. I have concerns of who the governor was when he was governor. I dont have the same concerns for him running for mayor and ill express that if that time comes you know, being in the line of succession im, always making sure im very responsible with my words and how we speak, particularly in this time. Theres a lot of confusion and you almost chaos for people who are in the city, particularly our workers and want to make sure that they know that there is, there will be a steady plan moving forward and this is why we have to push the mayor to answer the questions if he believes he can be that steady hand with the weight of everything thats going on. And really only he can answer that, but we need him to not only answered, but to present a plan as quickly as possible. I think the window to do that is rapidly closing if adams resigns or is forced out, you would become the mayor the rules allow you to run for the office. And would you consider doing that theres so many steps in between here and there. And thankfully when you take this job, you know that this is a possibility. Its not somebody who actually planning for and thats something that you want because if it happens, i mean, something went wrong and we want things to go right. So right now were really focused again on making sure that there is some kind of calm and steady hand for the people of the city does that mean youre ruling out if you in fact do get the position that you would not run but its not for me, its not really a ruling out, a ruling in right now. Theres so many steps between where we are right now and that being one of the eventualities. And its only one of them that its really best to make sure youre prepared for all of the eventualities. Because in all of the eventualities, you just want to make sure that youre prepared for them. And as public advocate in the line of succession, were prepared for that as well has a Governor Contact as you at all about that prospect i havent spoken to the governor since the indictments been unsealed. Well see what happens as you say, theres a lot of steps in between. Everyones eager to see what happens next, including how the government intend to try to make their case given the Presumption Of Innocence, jiminy williams. Thank you so much. Thanks so much for having me and im one of those is concerned as well well, Caitlin Clark Season is officially over, but the controversy around her just wont quit tonight. Her message on the Racism Festering in the league fan base. She says, as her top rival, Angel Reese says shes had enough of being labeled the pillen. The question tonight. 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This is cnnn closed captioning is brought to you by my q and all in one Home Access and Monitoring System Mikey was the only smart Home Security Solution that provides video monitoring realtime notifications. And let you decide who comes in and who stays out. Tonight. The historic Rookie Season of Caitlin Clark gets a celebratory capstone. According to the athletic, shell be named Rookie Of The Year by the wnba. She led the Indiana Fever to their first Playoff Appearance and nearly a decade average nearly 20 points per game helped fuel a record breaking year for the wnba and Angel Reese and her Star Power also contributed to a Banner Year for the league. And the clark real rivalry. Well, if you will ratings if shell debates and fueled controversies all throughout the season at times, the conversation turned ugly and reese alluded to it in a post on X Writing Last Night for the past two years, the media has benefited from my Pain And Knee being villainized to create a narrative and you know what sounds like clark has had enough to condemning hateful comments, hurled at other players its definitely upsetting. I dont think Theres Nobody in our league should be facing any sort of racism hurtful, disrespectful hateful comments and threats those arent fans, those are trolls and its a real disservice to the people in our league, the organization, the wnba with me now cnn contributor kari champion, who is out with a new podcast, the making of a rivalry. Caitlin clark versus Angel Race carries so good to see you. I dont know how youd find the time to do all that you do, but im so glad youre doing with this new ban gas. You and i have talked about this a great deal. And at the start of the season reis, welcome the role of the quote, bad guy, but hope that people would see the league is more than one person because it is what do you make about her change of tune now that the season has ended . You know i think that she had no choice. I talked about this in the dock would you mentioned i she had no choice. She was always going to be the villain because of the optics. Caitlin clark was immediately americas darling because of what she looked like where she came from. She was a great player. Im taking nothing away from her but what Angel Reese did was just be herself unapologetically and for so many people, it was really able to see it and so i think now she is fed up with being a villain because she knows that shes not. And that people are putting that on her. So instead of accepting that role now, shes taking her Power Back in a very, very unique way. In which i applaud. But the best thing about these two ladies and ill say this, laura, they really do enjoy one another. Theres no theres no animosity towards them. When i say rivalry in the podcast, its a good thing the sport needs inertia. It needs the attention, it needs the backandforth thats what propelled Womens Basketball and gave so many people the idea to pay attention because there was a story line. But now these ladies are finding their voice. And when they really get comfortable, thats when things are going to get interesting. Its true america loves a cinderella story, an Underdog Story they love at all. They love a rivalry, but wed love most of all is saying the talent across the lee. I mean, people who had not been tuning in before they may have been surprised or those whove been watching all along, it has been wonderful to be able to see and watch everyone we came into their own in this league. We heard Caitlin Clark, though denouncing some of what was said. The race has comments by who she calls trolls instead of fans but her response has also shifted from the start of the season, which he said, quote, i Cant Control that what do you think is behind her evolution i do believe that especially with ive been able to talk to some of her coaches, her high school coach, her her her her college coach, and some of her friends and former teammates she grew up in iowa. They didnt have these issues. Caitlin clarks Number One priority has always been to play basketball. She is baller, a very fierce competitor. This was never an issue for her and so when you ask someone who is and let me just remind everyone, lets level set. These ladies are 21 and 22yearsold, 22yearsold. And youre still trying to find their way in terms of what they do in the wnba, they werent necessarily kaitlan more specifically, wasnt ready to talk about race because it wasnt, wasnt in her realm of knowledge. It wasnt something she had to deal with. It wasnt necessarily fair for asked her to talk about that in a way that she could sound coherent and knowledgeable and comfortable, but shes getting there now. Shes around her teammates. Shes seen some things in the leagues. Shes its heard these fans be inappropriate and theyve tried to coopt her narrative, put their problems, their issues, their philosophies on her, and thats why they dug in and they went into that Caitlin Clark fan base, but shes like, hold on. I dont approve of you being a troll. You can like basketball, you can like me, but i will not approve of you being erased we have no room for that and find out the wnba is saying something and joining him for so long. These women in this league have felt like this has been ignored because massaging it has been an issue. Racism has been an issue. Theyd been dealing with this for so long. And now that we have all of this attention theyre going to try to change it, or at least theyre saying theyre trying to change it in the w im glad you point that out. This is this did not start this season for so many people who have been dealing and watching all this. I mean, the wnba the women that may be they have been in the forefront and leaders on a number of controversies that a number of Social Justice its issues and beyond, you got to give them their credit. They do not keep this. Theyre ill compartmentalize life with ball j, combine their passion and so many ways. And despite the controversy as though this has been a records setting year for the wnba with ratings and also by the Way Attendance that highest in 22 years most regular Season Watch games and 24 years 2 Billion video views as across social media. I mean, this this has been good for the game its been amazing for the game. You know, the league is young, its 28 years young and we think well look, no ones watching its 28 years young you know, we have to understand this is when its hitting, its just do what i mean by that is that with Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese, they come into the league and they bring their Fan Bases and they also bring an expectation and experts petition that we deserve and we want thats this generation and im so impressed by how these young ladies handled themselves and what they demand. And so everyone is paying attention. So the rivalry is a good thing, but also it comes with the hecklers and the sycophants and the people who dont necessarily need to be here for the sport, it happens. Sports. But these ladies are taking the momentum and theyre taking it all. It was already building and they are just capitalizing off of it. There was this explosion if you will, when Caitlin Clark always came into the game because of how they played the College Game and now everyones why russian Womens Basketball. And i think this is great. Well, the product has always been great. And so now you can see it in their response. Im so excited for them it