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Tonight, a cnn exclusive, the family of Amber Thurman speaking out about her death inside of a georgia hospital, democrats blamed on the States Abortion Ban and now propelling her story. The front of the president ial race. All the while Donald Trump, that republicans say women wont even have to worry about abortion. That was response to that tonight on Laura Coates live Nikki Haley asked him tonight. Are you trying to lose the election . Im talking about abortion the issue has become Donald Trumps Achilles Heel and new polling suggests tonight that its costing him some votes as he and republicans up and down the ballot struggled to land on a message to defend the fallout from the end of Roe Versus wade case in point, the Gop Senate Candidate in ohio said this at a Town Hall last week and newly uncovered audio in like abortion country, remember i want i will vote for anybody else okay. A little crazy by the way. Especially for women are like past 50 of the War Zone Morenos campaign claims, it was all tongueincheek. A jab, but how democrats say the only issue that matters to women is abortion. Now, of course, women are not a monolith of course, our interests are wide and varied and farreaching but you have to be a full thing that it doesnt matter to women, including those above the age of 50 this new Cnn Poll showing women breaking towards harris, who has been hammering Trump Day after day on. You guessed it Abortion Rights. Now its not a small margin shes a head with women by ten Points Harris is trying to seize the momentum. Shes now vowing to even use the nuclear option in the senate and get rid of the barrier, blocking the passage of a bill that could codify Abortion Rights should eliminate the filibuster for roe and get us to the point where we 51 votes would be what we need to actually put back in along the protections for reproductive freedom and for the ability of every person and every woman to make decisions about their own body and not have there government tell them what to do talk about a risky move. Even Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, her former colleague in the Senate And Mamma about this right now. But its a move that harris is banking on to get voters who do care about reproductive rights to the polls. And you know what it could pull up, pay off in the Post Roe V wade world, the united states, many women are worried about their health, even their very survival, their seeing what happened to Amber Thurman and Candi Miller and georgia. And theyre wondering if the same thing could happen to them. Now their stories, were first reported by propublica, which linked their deaths to the states strict abortion law. For 28yearold Amber Thurman propublica reports that she found out that she was pregnant with twins after georgias sixweek Abortion Ban went into effect, she tried to get an abortion in North Carolina were hour away drive scheduling, day off, work and leaving at 4 00 in the morning to get to the clinic. And the clinic but she hit traffic and she missed the appointment the clinic could not hold her spot open because it was overwhelmed by women from other states that also had Abortion Bans that were seeking abortionrelated services. But an employee offered her an approved Abortion Pill Regimen and amber took it days later and she suffered a rare complication. Ambers body did not expel all the fetal tissue. So she went to the Hospital And Georgia to get a procedure that could actually help her but propublica says that ambra waited for more than 20 hours until a decision was made to operate 20 hours and pain. Wondering what would happen . To her sixyearold son amber, died during that surgery i want to bring an Amber Nicole Thurmans Mother should not williams and ambra sisters, cj. And endrick, It Thurman along with attorney for Amber Thurman, family, ben crump. I want to thank you. All for being here. The entire world, let alone this country is absolutely devastated mission that to hear what is happened to your daughter, i mean, the states maternal Mortality Review Committee found there was and these are their words a good chance that ambra is death was preventable according to them, this could have been prevented. I cannot imagine what this feels like for you August The 19th this is my reality i wouldnt have ever imagined walking into the Hospital Result when i got there, she was repeatedly telling me how much pain she was in and i would reassure her that youre going to have that youre here. Theyre going to help you dont worry youre going to get the help that you need. Were in the best hands. Youre at the hospital and she kept telling me no. You dont understand i am in pain. It is too much pain she began to cry as a mother. I reassured her she was okay she was okay as her mom i handed her over so the people i trusted that were supposed to take care of my baby what every mother would think go to the hospital, they will help you trying to reassure, trying to calm her down its just so painful and heartbreaking to understand that a cj, ill bring you into this as well. That is propublica for that very hospital, it took more than 20 hours to begin truly treating her and performing a surgery to try to get that toxic tissue out of her body has has anyone given an explanation for why it took 20 hours . No. We havent gotten any explanation. And its very sad that were just finding out how she really passed before my sister went into surgery. She faced time Me And My Sister was very bright, very light skinned when she faced Me And My Sister was literally blew. She had blue patches all over her and amber, she just looked at me. I asked her i say amber or youre dehydrated, do you need water . Like are they taking care of you choose just like no, i just i just passed out again. She was thrown up. She was passing out at the hospital. She hit her head. She had all bruises and youre not i mean, all over her face . And before she went into surgery, she literally stared at me for about seven seconds and i stared at her. And i think that my sister knew that she wasnt going to make it out of surgery. She knew that was going to be the last time that we were ever able to see her. That i will ever be able to see her again. And that faith, that stair, it hunts me every day. So know that my sister was in so much pain for so long for you to see that and to see her face and im im im the youngest sister of three girls and looking at you all reminds me of my own family and trying to imagine what that would have been like to be on a facetime, to be in her presence, to be where i would think i would be safe and she could get help. I mean, andrivka, this is agonizing. I know for your family and to know not only is it agonizing privately. But here, this is amber story. Your families now journey front and center. And now a presentation what is your reality been like in these moments . You know, ever since we found out, im having a hard time understanding how they could let my sister suffer for 20 hours. My sister was in pay the entire 20 hours she was in pain as she was still updating us, letting us know what was going on, what shes doing. You while shes in pain and she did call before she went into surgery and she was blue shoot. She was she was so blue. She could hartley talk and she just stared at me she stared at me as if she knew this was going to be her last time saying me. She didnt say a word. I didnt say a word. We just stared at each other and that is all i have left. My sister the images of her laying their blue and then seeing her lifeless on abed i cant do anything about it. Those are my last images and it haunts me when i close my eyes. It haunts me as im driving my car. It huntsman it just haunts me. That was my little sister my mom mom. I mentioned that i cant begin to imagine what it is. Youre feeling between your daughters holding your Daughters Funeral Program . And the fact that i was actually with her on August The 19th and i released her we were in the elevator 1 59 p. M. She was giving me instructions about the pain. She went from talking about the pain too mom, youre going to have to take care of my fine. Youre going to have to and i would just interrupted her and i told her no theyre going to help you she began to cry. My baby was extremely strong when she cried are wipe the tears and i said, ill be right here waiting when you come out of that operating room. I will not leave am right here she looked up at me after she had me to facetime them and she said, i know youll be here between them hearing what theyve been going through, what its been like for them. I shut down 24 months in a dark room because the only thing i felt was what more could i have done what could i what did i miss . What did i miss . Im her mom. I was supposed to know what i handed her own with that to yourself. I mean, i you Cant Blame yourself. I know that you are expressing that, but you know that this was not youre doing, you know, that in your heart four to find out with the world to find out with the world is like the wound that wasnt healed opened wider and now its not a private matter the world has to see my hurt you hear mission add hand, Cj And Drake, are you hear the politics coming into a conversation that is deeply personal, that is deeply private, but as deeply painful you hear people like former president Donald Trump saying that if he were president women will be happy and free and will no longer be thinking about abortion. This is a quote you hear a republican Senate Candidate in ohio saying that abortion is not an issue for women over 50 why should they care . What goes through your Mind Mission that when you hear comments like that, how cruel how pathetic if we allow one person to have that much control to have control over womens rights then helping them. Weve weve helped him and this is the outcome let. Me, bring you in here because you represent this Family And Blood is boiling all across this country, hearts are breaking minds blown by this as a reality for this family. And god knows if there are others who are similarly situated you represent this family. What are the next steps for them . We asked about exploring every possible legal avenue to get them some measure of justice. But not just for amber for her son, but also for all the other women out there that may be similar situations. These laws are so vague and ambiguous that dot this may have another amber and a state like Alabama Or Louisiana and how crew to have patients only the dead that you can save. The you aware about these laws because they dont give clear instructions on what doctors can do and not do. We have to addressed these riccoboni and laws once in fall. It just brings tears to my eyes to think about just in reading what happened. That in the Summary Report that they provided, they discussed at least twice the possibility of getting her the help much sooner, and here it was 20 hours Cj And Drake your mother had a chance to speak to Vice President harris i wonder what that meant to your family to have her here. Your story was it was it was a very heartfelt moment to be able to speak with her she cared. She listened and it just it just touched my heart for her to be so january with us and allow us the chance to express how he felt about our sister the world has come to know your sister your daughter through these unbelievably tragic, circumstances but i just wonder if you could leave me shanen with something that people dont know about your daughter. What do you want them to know about your baby . She was very strong. She was family oriented she absolutely loved her son she would have given him the world, everything she did. She did it for her son she had dreams. She had aspirations on Aug The 22nd i received a Phone Call that she was accepted into Nursing School be of service to others she actually worked for the Heart Association and so many people that she touched and helped because of these laws their sister on this earth and never was able and will be able to fulfill the life that she had dreamed up that i want to thank you all for sharing. This journey im i know even say its hard is an understatement of a lifetime but to even know amber and the small way we have thank you thank you. Thank you i want to also mention that the Thurman Family has launched a Gofundme Page to support Ambers Son on all of this ahead with my panel plus the fallout over a Kamala Harris is vow to end the filibuster and breaking Tonight Florida Beginning Evacuation Orders as tropical Storm Helene nears Hurricane Status Chad myers is live with the brand new Track And Advisory just in from the national Hurricane Center next took culture over the edge. 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Her husband and want that 12 or 13 survivor of incest being forced to carry a pregnancy to term they dont want that i think the american people believe that certain freedoms, in particular the freedom to make decisions about ones own body should not be made by the government. Im Kamala Harris and i approve this message. I tried to put my arm around any vet that i can absolutely that new day usa. Thats what were doing. We put her arm around the veterans. Well, i think the veteran out there that he needs to refi his home. He may want to purchase and we can help them and provide that financial solution for them and their families its a great rewarding feeling. Everybody in the company they have that different in that respect. The love for the veteran that makes this company so uniquethe Futurf Soda is now in its called Poppy Eva Mckend On The Road with the Harriswalz Camp Cnn breaking tonight, a Brandnew Forecast just in for a strengthening storm in the atlantic expected to hit florida as the most powerful storm to make landfall but in the united states, in over a year, haleine is expected to come ashore on thursday night. Lets go straight to Meteorologist Chad myers chad, what is the latest from the advisory . Well were still 60 miles per Hour Hurricane Hunter aircraft are flying through it right now. So we do know that thats an accurate number. But what is updated at the 11 00 advisory is at landfall will be 120 but thats still plus or minus a little bit, but that old number was 115. So this is now forecast to be a stronger storm than even as at 5 00 advisory today, Upper 80s as the Water Temperature moving even into the middle 80s and this storm will intensify. We have to watch the cone because very big cities are on the right side of that cone. Smaller areas, smaller communities are in the middle of the cone, but this still will be a significant storm for the Florida Georgia Border across valdosta and bringing down trees and Power Lines all the way across parts of georgia as well. Hurricane warnings, obviously already in effect, but its the Storm Surge ten to 15 feet of saltwater will push into these marshes here, up into even toward st. Marks and the areas here that do have communities involved by the time we work our way into thursday overnight, we start to get the tropical Storm Force winds across parts of southern florida. And then yes, those are the Hurricane Force winds there in red, we do expect that happening probably sometime around 6 00 thursday night. The first Hurricane Force wind will happen, but then 100 and ten mile per hour winds all the way across the coast, even the potential for a tornado or two, as the storm makes landfall. And then it bumps up against the front. Thats already here. And we will make significant flooding across the southeast. Hes areas here, laura and purple. Thats ten inches or more in a wide swath thats going to make significant Flash Flooding Chad myers, we watching. Thank you so much back to politics now. And six weeks now until election day, the fight over abortion continuing to play a very significant role, joining me now, national Politics Reporter for the wall street journal, Sabrina Siddiqui he also cnn political commentator and republican Strategist Shermichael Singleton and democratic strategist chuck rocha, glad to have you all here, like we were all listening. My heart still is racing from hearing from Amber Thurman, family about what happened to her at that hospital . Many of this conversations are all foreseeable about the risk of what it would mean to have an Abortion Ban. And politicians are very aware of this, sabrina, when you hear stories like this contextualize for us politically what, how this is playing out. Well, first and foremost, i think Amber Thurmans death really lays bare the consequences of these incredibly restrictive Abortion Laws that we have seen proliferate across the country since the reversal of Roe V. Wade, right . Weve heard many stories of women being turned away from Emergency Rooms or being denied lifesaving care in hospitals because doctors are struggling to interpret these laws. And i think its not surprising that the more people hear about the impact of these laws especially on women, the more salient of an issue this becomes for voters and for the american electorate its not just an issue for women. Ive talked to many moderate and suburban voters who that also include men who think about what if this was my daughter, what if this is my wife or what if this was my sister so i think its part of why youve seen in the 2022 midterms and potentially now in the upcoming november election, abortion continuously ranking in the top three issues for voters at the polls. Thats why its kind of odd. Thank you. That will men and women and how much of an issue this is. You have the Senate Candidate, Bernie Moreno saying that womens focused on abortion as if its a singular issue is a little bit crazy. His aim and that its not an issue really for women over 50. Nikki haley then comes back to say, are you trying to lose the election . Youre trying to do so, then theres trump saying, ill be your protector. This is not really articulable strategy. Sure. My love, this isnt a good issue for republicans. We have two years worth of electoral data that suggests that we just dont do well on this issue. I dont think most voters want the government to utilize compulsory force to dictate what they can or cannot do with their bodies. Im a conservative. I have very disparate views on this particular issue. Particular issue, but im very, very cautious about utilizing government to be restrictive in this form what they said the recent Cnn Poll that came out had some interesting data. Trump is ahead of Vice President harris about four or five points with white women in particular, i thought that was fascinating also in terms of who do you believe support issues at best align with your view . Whos Donald Trump is ahead of the Vice President on that front as well. So this suggest some very interesting strength for the former president if he can stick to other issues such as the economy and immigration and stay away from the reproductive issues. Thats fine. Those polls theres something im going to go back to this interview. I thought it was an excellent interview. I think the story needs to be told as an ad maker, as somebody but who tries to get voters to believe stories. Theres nothing better than that, and i dont mean that for like, oh, my god, we can get a political win out of this horrific story. Its emotion, its real when you were talking to those women, you can see your emotion of interviewing them. Thats what real people will see because its a real issue when you talk to those men out there because theyre thinking about their daughters, theyre thinking about their mom as theyre thinking about women in their lap who lost something. So thats the reason im working over 20 congressional races. And in every one of these races, there is some khan former fashion of an ad being run mainly by democrats using the issue again, because its worked, because its emotional. And every time you talk about those things, about what folks have said today, whether its Bernie Moreno or Donald Trump as an ode, Hairy Legged and im like, have you ever met a woman . You dont say that if you want to get the womans vote, like they can see through that every day and twice on sunday. Well, what about the idea of a filibuster being used . I mean, thats thats pretty significant. You hear you dont hear Center Infection were saying anything about this moment in time. But this is a view that harris has had for quite some time, but now were in an election year. And of course, Cinema And Manchin do not support this notion. Theyre also not running for reelection again, sabrina as you pointed out, when you saw with Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema as they opposed Filibuster Rules change for Voting Rights and i do think that its more of a debate that happens here in washington where republicans will say, well, be careful, because right now whats your issue . But then if republicans are in the majority of republican president and they might try and leverage the filibuster for their own priorities. But i think the reality is there is a lot of frustration with american voters that there are a lot of initiatives, including access to abortion, that the majority of the public supports. And theyre tired of hearing that it cant get past a 60 Vote Threshold in the senate, thats not good enough for them. Youve seen that on issues like gun violence, you see it on issues like abortion access. In fact, with a lot of these issues, when you put them on the ballot at the state level, even in conservative states, youve seen voters take steps to protect abortion access. So i think that there could be a lot of debate over filibuster here. I dont actually know how many voters truly care about the rules and the kind of wonky. Yeah. I mean it is, but senator tester, who is in a very tight battle, hes probably going to lose that senate seat. He came out today and said, look, he doesnt support this. I think there are some moderate democrats in the senate who would be a bit concerned about this to run an a tight races are republicans are likely going to regain control of the senate. But im certain if youre Chuck Schumer you want to protect some of those vulnerable democrats in this certainly doesnt help. Is that as certain as the two michaels talking about the republicans gain the senate its going to be very close, but theres one thing that we should say again, that theres one thing for sure that none of us learn about what just Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin aint in the senate no more for a reason because they couldnt get reelected with the current policies that they have. Thats why theyre not seeking reelection. American people back to these as they just wont get something done. And to your point, they know that this 60 threats or whether its walk youre not is something standing getting in the way of getting something done in the senate . And thats what the american people say, is that surprising that you just how close this is . I mean, we are what, 42 days away, six weeks away. But i mean, this could be how it remained until actually election day. What were not talking about is that in 2020, the democrats couldnt run a ground operation. Its always been something we had over the republicans. There for 33 democratic offices in pennsylvania. Donald trump has three ground will get you once this close, its know more about these undecided voters. Its about getting out a, you know, hes going to vote for you and knew people. And i think thats where the democrats have a little bit of an edge. Grayson myrna, it wasnt close just about two months ago when president go over in aurora, colorado now claiming Bowlby Overrunning the entire state. 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Are they gonna go through colorado to take over the whole damn state by the time they finished now this, of course is complete conjecture and its also not true. But you might be asking, how do we even get here . Well, it all started with a real Estate Management Company denying requests to fix up their buildings in aurora, colorado. The reason they claimed ben, its gangs had taken them over, that claim was then repeated by the mayor and the city council member. Then this video went viral showing armed men and an Apartment Complex on cnn has not been able to corroborate the video. But Donald Trump and rightwing media, they have i see on it. And when the mayor tried to walk the narrative back, the narrative and already taken hold in a strong one at that. And i want to bring in the mayor of aurora, colorado, mike kaufman, mayor kaufman. Thank you for joining me this evening. Many people remember seeing this Video And Everything that transpired after that i do wonder, mayor kaufman, what is your message to the former president about the claims that he is making about your city certainly wasnt chilling video, but but, you know, Weve Weve used our Law Enforcement assets to descend on that and the problem doesnt exist in the two Apartment Complexes that are that have been referenced. But it was limited to a very small part of our city where the 51st largest city in america to have the narrative that the entire city is overrun by venezuelan gangs or the entire state it is just is simply not true i mean, there is talk now that he is intending to visit your city, Donald Trump by name. And in the next, i guess, two weeks or so, have you heard me more about that . And do you want him to come see whats happening a row for himself . You know, i we havent heard the campaign has not reached out to our city and if they are going to come, theres quite a bit of coordination thats required from a Law Enforcement from a Security Perspective but ive certainly id lean into it and i want the president to come here i want to show the president this City And Show him that were not in fact to some gang infested city that were were safe city where a large city and i think that the narrative is hurting us how is that narrative hurting your Community Gotten Calls from i mean, its just its just gone viral nationally. And i certainly gotten calls from Business Leaders like the Board Of Directors, from the Gaylord Convention and resort we have a Gaylord Hotel here. In fact, its the largest Hotel Convention Center in the state of colorado in the city of aurora. And to have the Board Of Directors a representative from the Board Of Directors call me and say, hey, is this stuff true fortunately, i was able to dispel it. He was convinced that it wasnt true after my conversation, but im concerned as a mayor in a city that is dynamic in terms of its economy and growing that i dont this having a narrative out there thats false is unhelpful you have any regrets about the way you initially spoke about the Migrant Problem in aurora . No, because i think thats the way it was portrayed to me by the Law Enforcement, but the notion that were just going to sit on our hands and i do anything about it and its just going to be static between that point in time the election is not going to happen. Of course, Law Enforcement leaned into it. We made a lot of arrest and, there is no this was this was limited to two Apartment Complexes and theres theres no other complex by any venezuelan gang or a criminal elements. Certainly at this time mayor if trump were to visit certainly the attention that would come and talk with the coordination. But what do you hope would be the outcome of a visit from the former president . Are there resources that you think you need in your community . They are not otherwise available no. I mean, i think theres an opportunity. Its an opportunity to show the president , the former president the city did show that its a diverse city. Its a dynamic city, and it is not a gang infested and. So he, would his statement, i think to the words of the effect that he may he may come to the city, but not be able to exit the city. I mean, i think you would find out that its not true and my hope is that he would then express that the inaccurate view of our city you have since visited the Building Complex that people are familiar from that video and you spoken with the people who are living there, may or what did they told you about their current Living Situation . Pretty bad, unfortunately theres an outofstate landlord, quite frankly some Slum Lord that owns several properties in our city in two of these right now are problematic. When did we closed due to habitability concerns, then there are two that he doesnt have hes kind of walked away from i think is the best way to put it he be needs to needs to take responsibility for these properties, needs to put his Property Managers back. We certainly offered security with those Property Managers. Hes declined it so unfortunately, if if he doesnt come back in and take over these properties or the lender takes over these properties unfortunately, were going to have to close them. Mayor mike kaufman. Thank you so much for joining and others. A big spotlight on your city. Let it be for the right reasons in the future. Thank you for joining us. Thanks for having me well, theres heartbreak. Theres outrage tonight. This after the state of missouri has executed Marcellus Williams, a man who said that he was innocent and his Murder Conviction was even questioned by the local prosecutor we just tried everything to spare his life. 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And that was despite prosecutors, williams is family and even the family of Gayle Pleading to spare williamss life, that did not happen. Tonight a Lastditch Appeal to Supreme Court was rejected with the sucks 63 vote falling along ideological lines. A devout practicing muslim, williams, last words were all praise, be to allah in every situation the mans last Meal Chicken wings and Tater Tots at 7 01 pm eastern time tonight Marcellus Williams was given the lethal injection of the sedative pentobarbital nine minutes later he was pronounced dead at one point, appeared to wiggle his feet, which were underneath a white sheet as pulled up to his neck moved his head slightly. Then i could see his chest heaved about a Half Dozen times i didnt see any movement after that Ladies And Gentlemen neither family spoke after the execution, but many people in the public did billy, 100 people protesting outside of the correctional facility even today . But the governor, through a spokesperson, well a defended the Execution Nor Judge has ever found williams innocence claim to be credible two decades of judicial proceedings. And more than 15 judicial hearings upheld his guilty conviction. Thus, the execution, the order of execution has been carried out with me now, st. Louis prosecuting attorney Wesley Bell, who is also running for congress Wesley Bell you and ive spoken in the past when there was a chance that they would stay the execution. A fancy way of saying to continue for time to investigate the possibility that he was in fact innocent. What is your reaction tonight, knowing that that did not happen . And he is now dead . Justice, the interests of justice were not served and as a prosecutor, as you know, as a former prosecutor our job is not to get convictions, is not to collect stats, is to bring justice and for us, for the folks that in my office lay through Alayna Mcmullin my office. That Conviction Incident Review unit live by jessica hathaway. We talking about folks who invested blood, sweat, and now tears to spare his life because it was the right thing to do when theres if theres the shadow of the doubt with respect to innocence or the the the integrity of a conviction at the very least that individual should not be executed and it is to say disappointing would be an understatement there were several opportunities on the timeline, if you will, obviously, this case predated me, right originally and so, you know, 20 plus years ago, but throughout the appellate process and now, once we have had an opportunity, there have been opportunities for decisions to be made that would have should have resulted in mr. Williams life being spared . And the system failed you want it filled all of this. You have to wonder why there was such a vested interests in the speed of this after this was a murder from decades ago at this point in time now that this was underway, why do you think that was the haste to do so given your office said no, the victims families said no. He was not asking to be released. He wanted time to investigate further and was even willing to plead guilty to lesser charges, which i might add there were people who say, well, hold on, that must mean that hes probably guilty whats your response to that . What he was willing to agree to was called an alford plea, as you know, which which he is not pleading guilty to the charges hes acknowledging that theres enough evidence to convict him, but that was that was really for us to be able to buy time, to be able to investigate his claims of innocence because the Execution Date was set. If the Execution Date was stayed, or just push back a few months to give us more time to investigate this matter. We may have been able to the determine whether or not he was in fact innocent or not. But as you know, its not just about innocence. Its also about the integrity of the conviction, right and there were serious legitimate concerns about this conviction. And at the very least he shouldnt be executed. Thats what were asked. This was not a dichotomy between execution or release. This was Execution Or Life in prison without the possibility of parole. And then his team and him and they would have time to to vet his his his claims of innocence. But now were looking at a family who had to relive this again Felicia Gayles family have to relive this all over again. And as the prosecutor, i cant look them in the eye and say, the right person was punished, punished because we dont know thats the scariest aspects of this. And also very difficult to maintain faith in the system that prosecutors you and i know how impactful and how much we can control certain aspects of it. And to know that you were fighting to understand the integrity of the conviction and thats done we have to our job, we have to recommend folks go to jail sometime. Thats part of our job. But its also part of our job to make certain theyre safe cards tim. Sure. That we get it right. Even if that means 20 years later. And so even though this case predated me, it was our offices still had an obligation to do everything that we could to make certain that justice was serve and we fought and im written its tough. Its tough. Its very emotional to think about what happened at 7 00 p. M. Tonight Wesley Bell. Thank you so much and thank you all r watching Anderson Cooper 360 is next changing trade and why im not change Sexual Orientation im not changing the political party. We dont go to the house with what we got here. Okay . Car saturday, October 5th on cnn. 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