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Nights state of the race tonight, Donald Trump launches an attack against one republican. He thinks is costing him votes while being silent on another. Ill explain in a moment plus fears of an allout war between israel and hezbollah. The us now moving troops to the region can the White House and walk the conflict back from the brink . Everyones wondering tonight and the stunning new details from the Wouldbe Assassination Attempt of Donald Trump as he calls the doj, to hand over the case to one of his former rivals thats all tonight on Laura Coates live heres a paradox. Where are you on this Monday Night . Republican groups have been Spending Tens of millions of dollars to get republicans to vote early, as in the ahead of november, only to have their nominee save this and in a Battleground State no less got to get out and vote. You can shot right away. You know that right now we have this stupid stuff where you can vote 45 days early i wonder what the hell happens during that 45. Lets move the cheeleys votes. Youve got about 1 Million votes and then lets move them were fixing the Air Conditioner in the room, right now its terrible what happened to last time was disgraceful, including right here that sound you hear is like heads banging on desks somewhere in a strategy war room. And that was Donald Trump. Tonight in pennsylvania in one breath encouraging early voting in the next baseless they using it to say to of early Voting Fraud Costume election in 2020, or that it might move brown vote somewhere. Some place. Now, trump is no doubt, focus on the Commonwealth Weve heard will be back just next week and this time holding a rally in butler, the town where he was nearly assassinated in July Pennsylvanias 19 electoral votes are an extraordinary price but the race is so tight that trump is not as worried about those as the 11 electoral vote. Hundreds, hundreds of miles away. The one that nebraska is second district awarded to biden in 2020, a little blue dot. You see there in there. Trump wants State Lawmakers to vote switch to a winnertakeall system. Which would benefit trump because it gets winnertakeall , he get everything set, including that one. But tonight, a republican is actually standing in the way. A local gop, State Senator, whose vote would have effectively been the tiebreaker on any Rule Change, said Mike Mcdonald wrote, quote, 43 days from Election Day is not the moment to make this change. Now spoiler alert, surprise, surprise. Guess we trump is attacking that State Senator writing that he quote, decided for no reason whatsoever to get in the way for republican Common Sense victory. Just another grand standard lets get this straight trump is willing to criticize a republican who was saying in the way of what he thinks is a major election Rule Change of justified any 11th hour when it comes to criticizing another republicans, say The One running for governor in North Carolina, the must win state. You know, The One who reportedly called Himself A Black Nazi and posted lewd comments on a porn site. The one who saw his top aides resign nearly all at once. The one i think trump called what was it again, Martin Luther King On Steroids or a Mortgage Or King junior times to that one. Well know in mark robinsons case, trump has nothing to say you know, he hasnt even sitting here today, pulled back his endorsement of governor Brian Kemp of georgia for what its worth hes had enough camp, took back his support for robinson today. And the republican Governors Association also decided to pull its money out of the North Carolina race. Your Head Spinning . It . Because only monday joining me now, national political correspondent for politico meridith mcgraw, national Review Editor Ramesh ponnuru and former Senior Adviser to the Biden 2020 campaign, alencia johnson, who has a new book coming out in march. I cant wait to hear more about what to call it length tables, but everyday disrupted yes, guide. I cannot wait until it comes out. Im getting my preorder now. Okay. Lets start with whats going on, ramesh. Alright, this is a really, really tight race and we see that every single Day Youve got trump leading in arizona, but everywhere else, its like a jump ball, Neck And Neck hes kind of in one place. Hes in the margin of error im areas its so tight of a race is he concerned about whats happening there . Is that why hes focused so much on The One in nebraska because he knows this could come down to maybe even to 60, just c9. Oh, yeah. I think that its pretty clear. Its going to be a tight race. Its been a tight race. Pretty much consistently except for that period in the late stages of Bidens Campaign and it could be that one vote the it could have. There were some similar interests in maine because of maine has the same system where they vote or their electoral votes by congressional district. But the thing is depressed because had the system in place for while and maybe theres a case for making it just like every almost that is can be caused on Election Day. Ill say if theres seven Swing States the least most least likely scenario is it breaks for three. I dont like to predict elections. I would just say just just doesnt feel like a race that harris is going to lose thats a pretty Competence Abramson make an actual friction, but ill say that the times is reporting about 15 of the electorate in arizona georgia, and with one awesome with carolina combined, describe themselves as undecided or not definitely decided. So what you gotta do to get them to go for her the way that carville things might happen . Yeah. I mean, i think what what ive been saying since shes become the nominee is that the reality has a lot of these people is undecided voters. What im gathering is that its between the couch or showing up for hair right there. Tired of Donald Trump but they just more motivation to get out for Vice President harris. And thats why its actually really smart that her campaign to tone is im not taking anything for granted. I think democrats learn that lesson in 2016 to not take this historic opportunity for granted, folks want to work and she constantly talks about wanting to gain everyones everyones support. Theres even conversation about her visiting potentially visiting the border. Shes not giving up on some some of these states and the other thing particularly about arizona and nevada, you know, North Carolina, we have the Governors Race that i think is actually going to help the top of the ticket. But nevada and arizona have abortion on the ballot, right . And i think that will actually potentially help Vice President harris, but again, not taking it for granted, still trying to campaign in those states should she visit the border . Listen, i think she has spent time there before she even became Vice President and of course, obviously as Vice President i think as long as its not a political stunt, right . We have seen that politicians do that. I dont think it will be for her because one thing is that she has said that separates you from everyone else, is that she has come from a state she has governed a state that is actually on the border, so she understands immigration in a way that a lot of people do not understand it. And so this would be an opportunity to show her strength marriage. What do you think about that issue . I mean, obviously, trump is nervous. There. Immigrations, a huge part of the election going forward. And hes ramping up though at the same time Election Fraud. Hes talking about Election Fraud as a way to its the hedge. If he is unsuccessful or otherwise. But he also said on truth social, he said this, the democrats are talking about how theyre working so hard to get millions of votes from americans living overseas. Actually, theyre getting re to cheat. Now he wants to challenge, of course, now, americans overseas, which means military possibly as well. Hes combined finding a lot of things in this Kitchen Sink of just in case why. Donald trump has been doing this since he lost the 2020 election. Thats a familiar refrain that weve seen from him, sowing doubt about the Election Results before theyve even happened. But at the same time, hes casting doubt the Arms Sea and the Trump Campaign when you go to these rallies, theyre encouraging people to do mailin voting. You do early voting. He just did a Tele Town Hall with governor glenn youngkin, virginia is going to start early voting on friday. And so at the same time, trump is talking about all of this. The Trump Campaign and the rnc are really trying to i say, Hold On, Hold On. You guys still need to be getting out the vote. We saw this before as well during the pandemic. Remember when this is whole moment of, he was saying dont do it and theyre like, wait, this is kind of our bread and butter. You need to have early voting. We dont dont not undermine this in this way, but its still going that route and its not just that he discourages early voting. Sometimes its also that if the more he sews this idea, that the elections are rigged, the less reason her his, for his supporters to come out and vote because it creates the sense of futility. Well, theyll just steal it anyway if they follow the logic of this and undermines his own efforts but hes also calling been in Brassica Person a grandstander. I mean, is that the new phrase for this does not make sense. Im getting up for some principles and obviously the voter is need to be able to have certainty going forward about how the rules work. Well, there was a serious Pressure Campaign from senator lindsey graham, who went out to nebraska to meet with the Governor And State legislatures Donald Trump was on the phones about this they were really hoping to push the governor to hold some sort of Special Session to really help push this over the line. Because, you know, as were talking about earlier, this is going to be a tight race and if youre in a scenario where Kamala Harris wins the Blue Wall states it could come down to just that one district in this sounds a lot like Deja View of what happened in georgia quite frankly, right . And it is really frustrating that Donald Trump, he continues to talk about winning by cheating, right . He literally cant run an honest campaign that also has policy specific. Everyone wants to talk about common well, harris, im having specific this man does even talk about policy all he talks about is rigging the election and bending the rules. And as famer, well, you know, hes talking about who isnt his favor. Women in arizona, also, georgia and North Carolina, alencia, are also giving harris an edge over trump with 51 support. Trumps noticed, by the way, less than we had to say i always thought women likes me i never thought i have you will be protected and i will be your protector women well be happy. Healthy confident and free you will no longer be thinking about abortion but they are, and protector and all the different aspects of it. Is this an effective way to communicate with the voters that are leaning towards harris . Oh my goodness, it is so disgusting and seeing that line, i am your protector makes me think about the fact that he was found liable for sexual Assault And Someone woman would say that he is their predator, right . And this actually allows for us to continue to have a contrast of, hes running scared. Theyre even showing in polling from a collegeeducated women are moving more towards the democratic party because of issue around abortion, around ivf, but also having seen who Donald Trump is since 2016. And so i dont think this is going to work the way that he was patronizing the conversation, that the tone was very patronizing two women. And i think there are a lot of women who will see right through it. And at the same time, i think there is still the sentiment, particularly voters of color, women of color are concerned about seeing how white woman will vote in this election because this whole conversation around womens issues has taken of the Mainstream Conversation of our politics, and yet still white women have overwhelming im only voted for republicans even when trump has been at the top of the ticket. Its going to be interesting what happens in november. Newsflash, you only person that telling them and that therell be your Father Figure works for was george michael. Okay. Its a great song. Me ask you one more question on this rematch and im going to get to george michael. Its a hell of a Song Gift to admit it really has. It is right. Song, but not a campaign slogan. Let me ask you this about why you think trump is not pulling back his endorsement of Lieutenant Governor in North Carolina why is he not distancing himself given the fact that i mean, he has gone to great lengths to distance himself from any sphere of horn when it comes to a prior 2016 claim in a criminal trial in New York as well. And now hes not distancing themselves. Why was he . There are two reasons why he doesnt back down. He doesnt like being seen to back down at least in a high highprofile way. Second, if you start to concede the point the Character Matters in a liter, that leads down a path that is not helpful to Donald Trump very important point. Well said. Thank you so much, everyone next, new details and how trump was just minutes away from being only a 100 feet away from the suspected gunman at his own Golf Club . Plus the suspect shocking letter written before the attack, which included a detail that as former Attorney General Bill Barr blasting his former Department Edge sunday at nine On Cnn these men knows means for their silver spoons, what would become of them when it is Cover Robinhood Gold allows others to earn their very liberal rates on idle cash that he would descend chaos does you know that 80 of people have subscriptions. They forgot about, oh, thats dumb. I keep track of my subscriptions in spreadsheets and i always get it right. Well see about that. All right. So i just dont iraq money in your phone and it looks like youre paying for two Meal Delivery kits why you see sprawling my ex, i got a call and cancel way with rockets and when you can cancel subscriptions, you dont want right from the app would just a few taps. 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Xfinity internet customers, ask how to get a free 5g Phone and a second unlimited line free for a year. Six at 5 55 this, but Ryan Rhodes was only 12 to 15 minutes away from having Donald Trump in his crosshairs. Thats according to prosecutors who laid out stunning new information about the Wouldbe Maralago Assassin prosecutor said ruth was, quote oh, directly in line with the very next Hole Or Trump was golfing if youd only been hundred feet from trump when he was at the green and investigators also say that ruth had dropped off a box at a Friends House months before the Assassination Attempt and after the attempt, the friend opened the box inside ammunition, a metal pipe, miscellaneous building materials, tools for phones, and various letters one of them was addressed to the world. It read this was an Assassination Attempt on Donald Trump. But i failed, you. I tried my best and gave it all the gumption. I could muster. It is up to you now to finish the job. And i will offer 150,000 to him ever can complete the job prosecutors now say they are planning to charge ruth with attempting to assassinate trump. So far remember, he has only been charged with two firearm related offenses, but the former president hes skeptical. He says he doesnt trust the federal investigators writing on truth social, that theyre charges are a slap on the wrist and that he wants florida to lead the investigation saying, quote, our Justice System is corrupt and discredited. Let florida handle the case well, i want to bring in dan gelber, the former mayor of miami beach, and a former South Florida federal prosecutor. Dan. Thank you so much for joining. I mean, based on the evidence laid out today, do you think doj is going to have any issues getting a Grand Jury to indict on a new charge that would include an attempted assassinate nation no, i didnt Fact Theyve got a couple of different statutes and title 18 to to pursue, you he was both remember, a former president and a candidate of a major party. Both those have different statutes. Each of those provide for potential life in prison, so they have very serious charges. The reason they obviously did Gun Charge initially was they wanted to get their case together and that we have a couple of weeks before they have to go before a Grand Jury to perfect a more serious charges which will be The Ones that travel with him when he goes to trial. Some people often wonder about why wouldnt just be a Murder Charge. But obviously the elevated nature of the victim, it isnt handed changes the calculation for how prosecutors pursue this case. The governor of florida, though, he has already cast doubt on the federal investigation and has the state collects its own investigation. Is there any reason why the state should do this instead of the feds because they have already had said they had a plan to pursue an attempted Murder Charge. Theres absolutely no reason why the state of florida should be pursuing this case, other than to help the feds in pursuing the case. And thats what typically happens. You remember, in most cases you want to avoid a Turf Battle between agencies because all that happens is you get multiple interviews of witnesses crime scene, all sorts of things can be messed up when you have multiple agents from different agencies competing. Usually you want to avoid that kind of a situation that kind of Turf Battle in this case, the Governor Governor Desantis has actually seems to be instigating it in fomenting it, which frankly, is a its foolhardy and it could really impact an investigation in a terrible way. Its really a wet kiss to the defendant more than it is anything else. And hes worn by the way about his assessment of federal. I sands has said, i think when he announced it, that theres no attempted Murder Charge under federal law. And i know he went to harvard law school, but he must have missed that class because there are two statutes 351 and won 15, both of which provide a for full Life Imprisonment for somebody who tries to assassinate candidate for president or a former president i was going to say dan, the idea of having these competing different Turf Wars means if you have more than we interviewing an investigation, theres always a chance that someone could say one thing and one and kendrick contracts and other one. Thats a really difficult issue to be in to prove your and Carrier Burden of proof, not to mention in civil rights cases. For example, youve got the fed toward normally a Backstop And Vice versa, and thats not whats happening here. Don junior though, is taking the issue with the release of the Suspects Letter and he said, quote, for the life of me, i do not understand why the Kamala Biden Doj is publicly releasing a letter from ryan wesley ruth, announcing a 150,000 bounty on my dads head theyre putting his life even more at risk with this reckless decision. Also, the former ag, Bill Barr said that he was dumbfounded by the reefs that any redactions it did strike me when it was released. Was it unusual to you to have it released in this way, including that detail know in fact, i look, i was a federal prosecutor under Bill Barr. Im not sure he was ever a Line Assistant because if you appear in mad magistrates coordinate seeking to put someone in jail awaiting trial, you got and approved dangerousness that obviously is an element, but it has a lot more relevance to the judge sitting, for instance, maybe theyre going to limit the use of a computer. Or the male maybe the Defense Lawyer wants to know because it could be the basis for a competency hearing. Youre 1 Million reasons and of course, its going to come out there because its an integral part. The proof of the defendants in tech so its sort of absurd to say that should not have been made public because nobody is going to act upon a guy whos sitting in jails ruminations in this letter, nomans going to act on that, but its relevant to dangerousness, which is an element of bond as well as the level of proof you have against the defendant. So i dont see anything wrong with it all and i think i would be surprised, frankly, if the prosecutors had not brought it to the judges attention, who most certainly would have been upset if it had not been and of course, those bond decisions, decisions will continue until the actual trial. I think people are accustomed to not being say, a manifesto printed when somebody has been involved in a crime which could contain information that is bigoted and beyond. But well see what happens in this case is now this detail has been revealed. Dan gelber. Thank you so much. Thank you next, a major escalation in the middle east. Now the pentagon is getting ready to send more us troops to the region. Military analyst is here to break it all down. But first an update to a Story Weve been following very closely about a Missouri Death Row inmate who prosecutors prosecutors say may be innocent Marcellus Williams is now set to be put to death in less than 24 hours. This after the State Supreme Court declined to stop his execution his Case Game Attention in january after the local Prosecutor Move to vacate williams is to thousand and one murder conviction. The prosecutor argue that Dna Testing of the knife used in the murders could prove that williams was not the killer that fell apart all right. After new Testing Show the knife had been contaminated by investigators who worked on the case and since then, a lengthy legal battle has been playing out williamss attorneys say that his rights were violated at the Missouri Attorney general disputes that and opposed a deal that would have resentenced williams to life in Prison Tonight the governor is turning down a request for clemency. He says this, real F Case have led me to believe in mr. Williamss innocence as such, mr. Williamss punishment will be carried out as ordered by this supreme court. Williams is now asking for the United States Supreme Court for a stay of execution. Who will update you as we learn more . The polls for Have I Got News For You . A pretty yeah. What are the kinds we could run on the news before then would never happened. 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The group has been firing at israel ever since the Gaza War broke out, but its been dealt some serious blows after last Weeks Pager and walkietalkie attacks the Idf Spokesman is not ruling out the possibility of a Ground Invasion joining me now cnn political and national Security Analyst david sanger, and cnn military Analyst Colonel cedric leighton, glad to have you both here and your expertise. David, this is the worst fighting thats been between israel and has blend 18 years is there an offramp theres always an offramp from this. The question is, will anyone take it . Here . Have been offramps from gaza, right . And ceasefire deal. And the prisoner exchange. Israel is chosen not take it are prime Minister Netanyahus has chosen not do. And hamas has chosen president not to take it so the question is, can you create the conditions where both of them have an incentive to do so . The only good news out of today was it could have been worse. In other words, we could have seen hezbollah shooting. Its missiles toward Tel Aviv and they can certainly reach Tel Aviv if they want to. They didnt. They showed a bit of restraint. So that is a good sign, but people in the administration have been saying to me, this could easily spiral into something bigger. And of course by bigger what they mean is a direct iran, israel conflict. We know that there have been troops going into the region. You dont know where theyre going or how theyre going to be used. Any idea, colonel . Well, theres several possibilities. Laura, one of them is Special Operations Forces that you could use him for a noncombatant evacuation, for example, of american citizens were other nationals we get the task to move could also be more Air Force personnel are navy personnel. Its hard to say at this point the pentagon is being very tight lipped about that because they wanted to protect not only where theyre going, how many there are, and what their exact mission is. But its clearly a message that were there to augment those its forces and were also there to use those forces potentially in at role that would help protect either israel or our own citizens. So far the policy has been to defend israel and that they have the right to defend themselves but can the united states maintain that particular policy of hezbollah retaliates its really hard, hard question. Hezbollah obviously is retaliating now. And lets remember how this started on october 8, the day after the Terror Attack on Israel Hezbollah being again lobbing weapons into israel. We think there have now been about 8,500 thereabouts which is, you know, a lot but this has ramped up in recent times. And so it seems as if prime Minister Netanyahu has made a fundamental decision which is hes not going to just go back and mobile lawn periodically and try to push this back. Hes going to try to get an all of their weapons stores. The question is, is this as far off a goal as defeating hamas completely and totally, which is took cleared to be his other goal. It really hard to do that with terror groups, as we learned with alqaeda, with isis and with others, that point cedric, i mean, youve got hezbollah backing is backed by iran. Youve got iran also backs hamas in gaza. The houthis in yemen mean the coordination of trying to secure either the Offramp Peace or stability in the region is mindboggling well, yeah, you know, from a diplomatic standpoint, when gets the impression that everything who leads through tehran, all the roads lead through tehran in the diplomatic sense, in the military sense, thats at least partially true as well each of these groups, although theyre independent, they have a certain degree of loyalty, if you will, to iran they, also coordinate with iran and from a military perspective, from an intelligence perspective, its in their interest to work together. And thats, i think what these groups are trying to do. Israel has quite a job to do if theyre trying to prevent hamas from retaining foothold. And if theyre trying to prevent hezbollah from doing It Damage to northern israel. This is all completely unnerving. I know we have to continue to watch and see what happens. The death tolls, the unrest, the instability. Thank you both for explaining. I appreciate it. Thank david, colonel leighton, please come back again. Kamala harris is ditching the historic catholic Charity Dinner in New York. Dont were candidates. They get to roast each other. Trouble calls it a sad what hurt her for not going well, someone whos been there before, former new York Mayor bill to blasio joins me next did you know you can save with good rx even if you have insurance. Im of medicare had checked good rx because it can be my coping like that even if you have insurance, get our x cannot be safe another good reason to check, good Rx News diets are here. 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You do the saving. Rahel solomon in New York. And this is cnn invite that only comes around every four years to president ial Candidates Dining and dishing out jabs at the Al Smith Dinner a catholic fundraiser in New York. But this year, Vice President harris is rsvp know the date with former President Trump on October 17 and said she said she will be campaigning in a Battleground State. But trump says he will show up with or without harris, have a dinner and happens every year. It takes on a special significance in president ial elections as a Campaign Stop for the candidates can show off some personality with jokes, either at there opponents expense, or of course their own its a tradition that dates back to 1960 when then nominees, Richard Nixon in jfk attended. Kennedy, went on to be the first catholic elected as president. But nominees have skipped the dinner before, like Walter Mondale in 1984, saying that he needed to prepare for the ap coming debate. And history told us, of course, how that turned out with me now is someone who has attended this dinner multiple times former mayor of New York, bill de blasio, mayor. Thank you for joining us i wonder from your perspective, if its a good idea, strategywise for harris to skip this and are concerning that some voters theyre still saying they dont know enough about her yet think gets a great opportunity for her and i certainly hope for a Campaign Campaign will reconsider this campaign. I have to say has been so well run by Kamala Harris. I was at the event she did with Oprah Winfrey here in michigan last week it was amazingly powerful that the message was so strong. And this is a campaign is firing on all cylinders i think its a great opportunity to housemates dinner to show the contrast and personalities and temperament and also for folks all across the country to get to know Kamala Harris A Little Bit better. Its also very important, i think in the world of american catholics, 60 to 70 Million catholics in america and i would say its a community, the democratic party. I say as a democrat we, you know, we had the incredible Hold On the catholic community for decades and that hold has loosened. I think its important to show up. It was arguably the most important catholic event of the year. And yet the Content Or Substance of it includes a roast, right . And so we are in a time and obviously the Tail End of any Election Cycle is going to be robust. Its gonna be full of jabs, many below the belt, some aboveboard, but mostly not do you think that the political climate that were in of having these jabs thrown on will take on a very different tone and thats what shes trying to avoid i think its a legitimate concern. I also think the simple argument that theres work to be done in the Swing States is that, that is powerful are preparing for a potential second debate. These are all very real considerations, but heres what id say. I was there in 20 16 when it was Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton made front of herself and was warm and engaging. Donald trump attach are very, very rudely and people felt that massive contrast. I think this year they feel it even more hurting may. I want to i want you off, but i didnt want to Trump Religion coming up i want you to finish your point. Excuse me for interrupting you, but i do want to play what youre talking about to give the audience a reminder. Listen hilary is so corrupt she got kicked off the Watergate Commission maybe you saw donald dismantle his prompted the other day and i get that theyre hard to keep up with and im sure its even harder when youre translating from the original russian i guess you didnt send her invitation by email or maybe you did. And she just found out about it through the wonder of Wikileaks Donald really is as healthy as a horse. You know, The One Vladimir Putin rights around down i mean, just listening to it, mayor youre laughing. There is some uncomfortable cringy moments, but he did break with tradition and became a little more personal. She did give it right back on moments that we can all look back now and say neither of them was actually joking about their position is, is this wed have to look forward to if they attended look again, i think the campaign has a lot of valid considerations and where they go. But heres what id say. Kamala harris has handled this campaign about as well as ever. Ive never seen a candidate do it. Her temperament connects with what i think americans are looking for right now. If she goes in there and is herself and maybe a little selfdeprecating, A Little Bit of comedy thrown in and Donald Trump goes over the edge, which i would predict. I sat there like so many people that didnt or 2016 shocked because no candidate had never acted that way before. I think that contrast would really be powerful just a few weeks before the election that would say a lot to americans about who Call My Harris is and who Donald Trump is not so. And by the way, we dont have any reason to believe theres going to be another debate at this moment. This might be the last chance for people to compare them sidebyside so a tough choice for the campaign, but i would argue, i hope they reconsider because i think they could do a lot of good and connect with a lot of people through this event and mayor, to your point about the demographic, they could possibly reach and beyond the Al Smith Dinner supports catholic charities in today on Truth Social Trump said, quote, any catholic that votes for comrade Kamala Harris should have their head examined his words. You were raised catholic. How do you its font his comments its an insult to catholic people, just like the same way he insulted jewish people when he said if they didnt vote for him, they were anti israel you know, its so inappropriate and i think in a funny way, we did get a little use to Donald Trumps shtick, to use a new York Term but i think its warring off its very striking ever since commonly harris became the candidate i think theres less and less Tolerance And Acceptance of trump attacking people in that very personal level or ethnic level, or religious level i think a lot of catholics would hear that and be really offended because ill make their own minds up with their faith in mind as well mayor build a blasio. Thank you so much for joining us. Well see if she changes her mind. Thank you so much thank you more. Ahead. A bizarre story involving Janet Jackson Misinformation and an apology. 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There is here he is holding his daughter when she was a child. Her mother was indian, someone who claimed to be jacksons spokesperson, then apologized but Jacksons Team says that apology was not authorized this false statement about harris is heritage has been repeated so many times even the Vice President herself is not acknowledging it but my next guest well, lz granderson, La Times oped columnist, host of life out loud with lz the Granderson Podcast and visiting scholar at western michigan university, lz. So glad to have you on today. I have been wondering what you were thinking about when you heard this. What was your reaction . Because i know all of my chats started to go. Did you see this . You hear about this. What was your reaction . My first reaction was, why are you still given this story oxygen, janet, or anyone for this bad or, you know, it was i thought that the two times that ive seen the Vice President s address this criticism that recently really started with the former president nabj, national association of black Journalists Conference Sort of brushed it aside because it was nonsensical and i felt the same way when i heard Janet Jacksons remarks. Its like, why are you using your platform to weigh in on something nonsensical when theres so many real things that are going on in the world. And i recognize that youre asked a question, but you are an icon. Youve been famous basically your entire life. You know how to pivot from a question, and yet you chose to use your time in that way. That was really disappointing i wish i could hear the audio as well because i find myself wondering what was all the context around it. Maybe its me thinking there must be some other Reason Or Something that she said or maybe its just refusal to take it at Face Value of what she in fact did say. But listen to what will be goldberg said about today . Janet jackson is not a political animal she does shes a, shes a musician, show her life was doing this and shes Warning Or Brother so thats right i am i am, you know . I sometimes im said stuff and, i was wrong. But people want you to say something right away. You know, but when people are coming at you saying, hey, you not pay your thumb, you dont know. You dont want to answer painful now, she may api overtly political and we do recognize her brother, tito jackson, who ive interviewed was just great and he passed away just recently, given that background that will be discussed, does she have responsibility to make sure what she says on her platform is accurate . Are we putting too much into what she had to say i think first, you know, as long as we dont respond to Janet Jackson, the same fervor they would do. The former president and i think were fine. I think when we started creating those two is when we as a society started getting in trouble because two weapons point. This isnt her Number One gig. This isnt her day job. Shes shes musicians. Hes also as an actress. Shes been an entertainer her entire life. That she doesnt know anything about politics is just that i dont think that if you look at the spectrum of her career, you would think of her as a political animal. Real Rhythm Nation 18, 14, i think its about as edgy of a political piece of content, but shes put out so i dont think we should be looking for her for guidance and yeah, i would give her grace with that. But you can still hold someone accountable. I dont think those two things are mutually exclusive and other words, you can give her grace, meaning dont cancel her to still support a music, but hold her accountable for using our Platform Irresponsibly i mean, shes been in the spotlight as youve pointed out for decades. I mean, shes been criticized. Shes been judged. Shes been disparaged, raked over the coals. Shes been praised the story Of A Musical Icon In America and across the globe. Shes been picked on because shes a woman, because she is black because of her musical family. Are you are you surprised . As given her personal journey and her own levels of scandals that she would have responded in this way i am laura, i am really stems back to two decades ago with Nipple Gate, you know, it was 20 years ago when you know, to your point, all the things you say that janice jackson, listen center rob, in terms of unfair criticism that was happening during Nipple Gate. And the reason why i think thats important to bring up is because the Criticism Wasnt just about the flashing of her her Body Party was also about attacking her as a person and her identity in her values, and her integrity. And in some ways, when you disparate Someones Identity with your platform, years doing the same thing. And so i was really disappointed that having been through Nipple Gate herself as a black woman in america, that even if you had heard rumors about the identity of another woman of color knowing, but rumors can do to a persons career, knowing what rumors can do to a black woman or a woman of color in america. Why would you take that time to fuel more rumors and that ecosystem, having experienced you experienced having that lived experience. And so for me, that was the disappointing part is that 20 years ago . It felt as if the entire country was attacking Janet Jackson for her identity and which way occurred on stage and that doesnt seem to be that sort of recognition of similarity in terms of people attacking Kamala Harris based upon her identity and dont forget, they were comparing her in stark contrast to the white male, who was also on that stage. Age when justin timberlake, i hadnt found at that particular connection with respect to this story, but its a really profound one that youve linked for us today. I want to talk also about diddy for a moment, lz, because theres new data that show your whole body, your whole body, and move. When i said the Word Diddy is saw. I understand why im talking on the screen right now. You can see it that streams of his music have jumped 18 last week compared to before he was arrested but i wonder, what do you to believe accounts for this increase i think theres a couple of things at play. I think first and foremost, theres Nostalgia Diddy is diddy for a reason it wasnt because we didnt love his music. It wasnt because we didnt wear sean john. He was a fourth pop culturally for decades. And so i think some of that is just sort of Read Deflection on what we thought did he was and through his music, i think theres also lover of curiosity from younger generations who may not have been around are cognizant of the force that did he was when he was at the peak of his powers. So i think Theres Curiosity and there may be A Little Bit of people trying to use the streaming as a way of pushing back against the system. And we saw that happened. Morgan waved in the Country Singer soon after he was saw on video using the n word, his Album Sales actually spiked despite the fact he is using a racial slur and some people were using it as a way of pushing back against the system and so i do think there may be some elements of that when it comes to the streaming, but i would like to think most people who are doing, are doing it from nostalgia