Coventry direct redefining Insurance Eva Mckend On The Road with the Harriswalz Camp Cnn trump tries to shore up North Carolina. We win this state. I think its going to be over fast after cnn reveals lewd and disturbing posts by Mark Robinson, Who Trump back for governor. Could that put North Carolina in Harrisons Column Robinsons Opponent democratic Attorney General Josh Stein gives his first major interview since this story broke ahead and the play for women, Vice President Kamala Harris leans into her case that they just dont trust women and trump responds, you will no longer be thinking about abortion, but are there new Warning Signs for harris with men, michigan democratic Governor Gretchen Whitmer is next, plus boiling Point Israel pummels terrorist Group Hezbollah in lebanon already reeling from the exploding Pager Attack could Tension Spiral into a wider war, key trump ally, republican Senator Tom Cotton is ahead hello, im Jake Tapper in washington where the state of our union is frankly thrilled to watch democracy in action were 44 days until will the election and early voters have begun to cast their ballots with perhaps the closest president ial election in modern history that candidates are on the Campaign Trail making their cases. Donald Trump Rallying voters in North Carolina. Yesterday, notably absent the man he is warmly back for governor. Mark robinson after cnn revealed but robinson called himself a quote, black nazi and made a host of other rather disturbing comments on a porn website forum. More than a decade ago, Vice President Kamala Harriss campaign is hoping that that scandal helps her eke out a Wind Win in North Carolina, which democrats have only done on the president ial level once in the last 44 years, the Harris Campaign is highlighting trumps Past Effusively Praise for Lieutenant Governor Robinson as she tries to lean into attacks on trumps antiabortion stance hypocrites want to start talking about this, isnt the best interest of women and children taking care of the women and children of America Trump trying to counter those attacks yesterday, he argued that women are poorer, less healthy, and more depressed and unhappy than they were four years ago. Joining me now is michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, who campaigned with harris this week. Shes also the author of a new book, true gretch, what ive learned about life, Leadership And Everything inbetween, weve interviewed her about that book before. Its a its a fun read. Governor. Its crunch time. Youre on a Tour Supporting Abortion Rights with Vice President harris Donald Trump was rallying supporters in North Carolina saturday afternoon. I want you to take a listen to what he said would happen if he wins in a few weeks healthy, confident, and free. You will no longer be thinking about abortion he says thats because it will be brought back to the states where it belongs whats your response . Thats just ludicrous. So i think, you know, this guy just doesnt understand what the average woman is confronting in her life in this country and how could he, hes not lived a normal life, unlike Kamala Harris who has worked hourly jobs, who knows how important it is that women have Health Care . Fair and access to the medical care that they need. And so hes just deranged. Were learning about deaths in georgia that are being blamed on the states sixweek abortion ban. One of the strictest in the country republican governor brian kemp, who signed that ban into law. He says the procedures that these two women men needed were actually perfectly legal. And the problem is democrats spreading, quote egregious Misinformation And Propaganda that fostered a Culture Of Fear and confusion, unquote, whats your response to that . If republicans would just stay out of our doctors offices, we would all be better off. We would all be safer. We would all be able to make our own decisions about our bodies. Theres no question that Donald Trumps appointees to the United States Supreme Court as ripped these rights away from so many american women. Women have lost their lives and if Governor Kemp wants to clarify the law and make it easier for Women In Georgia to access the healthcare that they need. Im sure that a lot of women would be grateful for that but at The End of the day, its not a his business. He should stay out of the doctors offices and these important decisions that should be vested in and only in the women who they impact youre from michigan, a big Union State for the first time in almost three decades, the Teamsters Union has decided to not endorse a president ial candidate. They have traditionally endorse the democrat. This comes after Donald Trump won the pole of Teamsters Union members by 25 points one Proharris Union Official told politico that that poll is a Red Flag reminiscent of the 2016 election when Hillary Clinton underperformed among Union Households and among white man and ultimately did not win do you think this is all a Red Flag for harris, especially in michigan . I can just tell you this. This selection is going to be close. Weve always known that thats what happens in these president ial elections. And in a state like michigan or pennsylvania, wisconsin, we know that this is going gonna be a close race. We also know that it was the Bidenharris Administration that saved the teamsters pensions. We know that there is one candidate who understands why collective bargaining matters, and thats why the Rank And File members of the teamsters have come out robust asli in favor of the harriswalz ticket. We welcome and appreciate their support, but where were in it to earn the support of all americans and were going to stay focused on an economy that creates opportunity for every person. And i welcome all the local teamsters whove john im don board. Theyre the ones on the ground and theyre the ones who are going to decide the fate of this election youre states Attorney General, Dana Nessel charged almost a dozen individuals from the University Of Michigan over the antiisrael protests among the charges attempted ethnic intimidation, assaulting, or obstructing a Police Officer and on and on these are propalestinian protesters who, who were being punished and prosecuted. Michigan democratic congresswoman Rashida Tlaib, who is palestinian. She called the charges from nessel, who is jewish shameful and tlaib said, quote, it seems that the Attorney General decided if the issue was palestine, she was going to treat it differently and that alone speaks volumes about possible biases within the agency. She runs unquote. Nestle responded by saying, quote Rashida Tlaib should not use my religion to imply i cannot perform my job fairly as Attorney General, its antisemitic and wrong unquote. Do you think that to leave suggestion that nessels office is biased was antisemitic son jake, you know what . All i can say is that i know that our Jewish Community is in pain as is our palestinian and muslim and arab communities in michigan now that seeing the incredible toll that this war has taken on both communities has been really really challenging and difficult for called on my heartbreaks for so many. But as governor my job is to make sure that both these communities are protected and respected under the law in michigan. And thats exactly what im going to stay focused on. But do you think Attorney General nessel is not doing her job because Congresswoman Tlaib is suggesting that she shouldnt be prosecuting these individuals that nessel says broke the law and that shes only doing it because shes jewish and the protesters are not thats quite quite an accusation. Do you think its true like i said, jake, im not going to get in the middle of this argument that theyre having. I can just say this. You know, we do want to make sure that students are safe on our campus he says and we recognize that every person has the right to make their statement about how they feel about an issue, a right to speak out and im going to use every every lever of mine to ensure that both are true some states such as georgia are enacting Lastminute Election rules changes, and some local officials are refusing to commit to certifying local results earlier this year. A small all county in your state of michigan refuse to certify results in a local recall election. Are you worried about potential problems or delays in michigan well i think we should all be concerned. There are certainly is an effort to undermine her confidence in our democratic institutions. There is an effort to misinform people and we know that there is false information that is ramping in every per Day Conversation in this country. And so i do think that we all known to be on high alert. I will also say this though in michigan we have codified a lot of different ways for people to participate wait in this election, weve increased penalties against those who threaten Election Workers and were going to make sure that our votes are cast and counted. And im not worried about the outcome we may have some difficulties along the way because there arent nefarious people who are trying to undermine our confidence in our elections, but we wont let them win only a few weeks left until this is all over. Weve heard other democrats in your position suggesting that they want to see more from Vice President harris and Governor Walz in terms of not necessarily speeches and controlled environments, but Town Halls with voters, more interviews, Mixing It Up, Press Conferences were only 44 days to the election. Do you agree would you like to see more of that . I didnt have incredible confidence in both the Vice President and Governor Walz. They have shown that they are happy warriors they are able to answer tough questions and they are eagles eager to get back into the debate. I know that Vice President has already accepted did you are invitation for a debate . Well see if the former president has the guts to take her on all right. 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Thats all as the simmering crisis in the Middle East begins to flare up even more, and the terrorist Group Hezbollah in lebanon, retaliates against israel after the surprise attacks, joining us now a top trump ally, republican Senator Tom Cotton, a member of the senate, intelligence and armed services committee, who also served in the middle attorney himself. Thanks so much for joining us. Really appreciate it so for almost a year now israel has been fighting on five different fronts hamas to its west, hezbollah to the north, the houthis to the south, iran and its proxies in Iraq And Syria in the east, northeast. And just this morning, there was a new round of Rocket Fire and airstrikes between israel hezbollah. How concerned are you about a bigger, larger regional war . And the united states being pulled in or voluntarily going into the war well, if there is a larger war is going to be by accident, wars dont happen by accident, they happen because in this case, because iran and its terror, terrorist network all around israels use laid out, jake, are intent on destroying israel a lot of attention has been focused over the last 11 months, rightly so on hamas to the south but i think many americans probably dont appreciate just how much hezbollah from lebanon has been striking into israel. You still have 80,000 israelis who have had to flee their homes in the north and be evacuated. And a friend or familys homes or hotels. Just to put that in perspective, it would be as if the entire populations of maine, new hampshire, and vermont had to flee to boston or New York or philadelphia because were having crossborder strikes. Canada, know civilized nations can tolerate that, can allow their people to live under those conditions. Israel has every right to defend itself and to go on offense against a Terror Chris organization in lebanon. And we need to give them the tools to defeat both hamas in the south. And hezbollah in the north and defend their own people is the united states not giving tools that theyre not . No, know. First off, theyre not giving them the political and diplomatic support that they needed from the very beginning. If rather than trying to put constant pressure on israel, more pressure than we put on iran and its terrorist networks joe biden, Kamala Harris, its simply adopted policy to let israel win and back them to the hilt. The war in hamas probably would have ended a long time ago, earlier this year, there was a defacto partial Arms Embargo on israel, not just the 2000 Pound Bombs which they do need to hit hamas in its deepen very tunnels. But mortar rounds and Artillery Shells and small as ammunition. Now they even have Attractor Embargo and israel israeli soldiers are exposed to minefields that cant be cleared because the Bidenharris Administration want allow them to get access to the tractors and the bulldozers. They need to clear those mines im fields. So insistent consistently, the Bidenharris Administration has put more pressure on israel and has put on israels enemies. Thats probably had the effect of prolonging the fighting. A lot of the protests against netanyahu are coming from within israel itself. Youve seen hundreds of thousands of israelis critical of how netanyahu is waging this war, whether theyre not, hes emphasizing too much going against hamas as opposed to rescuing the hostages is i spoke as i often do with families of these hostages and they said, point blank, that netanyahu is not doing enough to bring their Loved Ones home safely. Heres just a sample of that i think all israelis are done listening to Prime Minister netanyahu, because clearly theres a gap between what he says in terms of his commitment to getting the Hostages Home and his actions. So this pager, missionimpossib Le Action its like treating agony with more agony. This vicious cycle of violence needs to stop so those were american hostages for them still alive. And three of them represented in this group dead. But wanting these two individuals, wanting their parents and their sons bodies to come from home. But this is a legitimate criticism from Israeli Americans and israelis. What do you say to them when they say at this escalation in hertz . Well, first off, i expressed the deepest heartfelt sympathy for them and the agony they can go through. One can only imagine that. But if you look at whats happened over the last 11 months, the only time hamas has released hostages are hostages just have been rescued is when israel is putting maximum Military Pressure on hamas if the Bidenharris Administration had backed, as you from the beginning, not only with this war likely have already ended with you are civilian casualties, but we would have gotten more hostages out earlier and alive. What hamas is doing though, is continually moving the goalpost on any kind of Hostage Exchange for duly convicted terrorists that hamas wants back. And the Bidenharris Administration keeps its allowing them to move the goalposts. I mean, remember, the current leader of hamas, yahya sinwar, a blood thirsty genocidal maniac, used to be in an israeli prison. He was released in a previous swap. So while my heart breaks for any parent who has to live through this, i think the israeli government understands that the only way these hostages might come back alive is to put maximum Military Pressure on hamas, not to try to trust a terrorist organization to honor their word or to make any kind of deal. Lets turn to the 2024 election because at an event earlier but this week extensively about combating antisemitism, former President Trump suggested that if he loses, it will be the fault of jewish voters. Take a listen any jewish person that votes for her, especially now her, the Democrat Party should have their head examined. If i dont win this election and ive been very good, you know, they say trumps been right about everything. In my opinion the jewish people would have a lot to do with a loss are you comfortable with that with Donald Trump saying if he loses preemptively, its the fault of the jews, a group already experiencing a rise of antisemitism in this country from the left and the right, but still preemptively, its the fault of the jews. Well, jake Donald Trump has been saying things like this for at least 11 months since the October 7 attacks. I think the only reason the democrats latched onto it this week, as they see the polling that reflects Donald Trump winning record high amounts of jewish voters for republicans i hit the point. Hes been making all along. Is that any jewish voter, christian voter, or any other kind of voter who cares about her relationship with israel, should not vote for Kamala Harris and joe biden. Joe biden has not backed israel very much over the last 11 months. Kamala harris has been much worse. She treats them like a school she treats Benjamin Netanyahu like a school child. June assistant principal, whos constantly scolding him. She didnt she didnt even perform her constitutional duty to preside over the joint Session Of Congress when he spoke to congress. So but im not talking about im talking about american jewish voters. The American Jewish Committee said, quote whoever a majority of the Jewish Community votes for jews, roughly 2 of the u. S. Population cannot and should not be blamed for the outcome of the election setting up anyone to say we lost because of the jews is outrageous and dangerous. Thousands of years of history of shown that scapegoating jews can lead to antisemitic hate and violence. Thats the nonpartisan American Jewish Committee. Ive never heard you say anything like that. If we lose, it will be the fault of the jews. But jake, Donald Trump, again, he has been saying for months that anyone who cares about it its israel, anyone who cares about the fate of the u. S Israel Alliance should vote for him. They Shouldnt Vote for Kamala Harris because Kamala Harris has consistently been the most antiisrael voice in this administration in israel, im talking about jewish voters who voted for any number of reasons on any number of issues. And he was adamant talking about combating antisemitism here and around the world. When was the last time Kamala Harris spoken and van about combating antisemitism mathias and her husband is jewish and holds and its in charge of a group combatting about Combatting Antisemitism in the united states but shes consistently been opposed to what israel needs to win. Again, not just i keep talking about jewish voters in the united states and you keep talking about it now the lot of jewish, a lot of jewish voters, just like a lot of christian voters care deeply about the fate of the jewish nation and the status of our relationship with israel. Are you comfortable with him blaming it on the jews preemptively the point he is making is that anyone that cares about that Relationship Shouldnt Vote for Kamala Harris. They should vote for him. And again, hes been saying things like this i just at antisemitism advance, but speaking to christians who care about israels well, for months, the only reason the democrats have latched onto it as nael is that polls show when and owning a Record Number . Theres the first time he has ever said, if i lose, it will be the fault of jews. This is believed me. I happen to have a pretty good year for when people say things like this and thats the first time hes ever said that. Just just yes or no. Are you comfortable with him using that language, jake, its the same kind of language hes been using for months mean its okay. But his point his point, jake, hes the most pro proisrael President Weve ever had. He has jewish grandchildren of course, Kamala Harris as a jewish husband, that doesnt mean anything to you. Of course, what it means something to you because you brought it up. But of course, were talking about antisemitism and hes in charge of the group Combatting Antisemitism. Jake, its the democratic party that has a large and growing when antisemitic weighing that, thats the party where antisemitism has festered now for years, let me just say, as somebody who has been at the receiving end of antisemitism from the left and the right theres a lot of it out there on the left and the right. All those Collagen Cant at columbia and elsewhere, do you think those are conservative students . Of course not theyre radical leftwing state, but you know what, when i was watching the republican national convention, i heard lieutenant governor Mark Robinsons but you can lieutenant governor Mark Robinson, who is your Partys Nominee for governor in North Carolina. He has been saying antisemitic things for years, for years. He said that the movie Black Panther, this is on his own facebook under his own name. The movie Black Panther created character created by two jurors, Comic Book Writers was created to pull the shekels out of your shoe . Parts of pockets by jews. And then in the last Week Weve heard that he actually was in the past posting on a Porn Site calling Himself A Black Nazi, praising mine comp, saying that Adolf Hitler Wouldve been better than Barak Obama that is your Partys Nominee for governor in North Carolina, who has been antisemitic for years do you like him . Do you think he should be the next governor of North Carolina . Ive seen these allegations, jake and theyre concerning allegations he owes the people of the Shackles Thing was under his name on his facebook, but he owes the people of North Carolina more answers about it. But were talking about the president ial race here that matters to everyone, not just the people on wednesday Kamala Harris owns the american people a lot more answers. Like for instance, what she would do about the wars in the Middle East, not just in gaza, but Hezbollah Versus Israel for that matter, the iranianbacked terrorist in yemen that continually target american sailors, Kamala Harris owes a lot of answers to the american people do you think that trump should still support Mark Robinson in North Carolina ill leave that to President Trump. And most importantly, ill leave it to the people of North Carolina that is one state. Were talking about a president ial race that is going to affect every american at a time when a third of americans cant even afford their groceries alright, i just want to thank you for coming on right now and good to see you, senator jake. How can i i dont disagree. The Kamala Harris should answer some more questions to do some more interviews, ill just for the record, coming up next, his opponent called Himself A Black Nazi online. The man Mark Robinson North Carolina joins me for his first major interview. After the scandal broke. Thats ahead clear the air about air im like for breeze lysol, your sanitizer is the only product uniquely formulated to eliminate odors in turn, 99. 9 of viruses and bacteria in the air because sent Cant Sanitizer Lysol can my plan is to create a city that people can dream about tobias turn in two dystopias. 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So obviously you on this online pornographic pornography message board, robinson posted profane, racist, sexually explicit content he called Himself A Black Nazi. Expressed support for slavery. You talked about peeping on women in the showers when he was a teenager. It goes on that says this stuff, by the way, i can say on tv, robinson has denied the post saying, quote, these are not our words, and this is not anything that is characteristic of me unquote. Do you believe his i dont i dont if you look at what he said on the post, it was in keeping on what he has said publicly on facebook that are still on his facebook page Mark Robinson is absolutely unfit to be the governor of North Carolina and that was true before your story broke last thursday of the story has only served to underline and put an Exclamation Point on that fact. I mean, he embraced hitler. He compliments hitler. He says hes a nazi. He buys little Toy Ss soldiers. He says slavery. He wants to bring it back. Things that defy comprehension. But those only are in keeping with what he has said throughout his entire public life. He says women are not called lead and they have abortions because they cannot keep their skirts down he says, the gay people, or filth, and even more vile insults than that. Teachers are wicked people from a Church Pulpit this summer, he yelled, some folks need killing. This man is utterly unqualified, unfit to be the governor of North Carolina. And were gonna do everything in our power to keep that from happening. Former President Trump was campaigning in North Carolina yesterday at a campaign rally. Lieutenant Governor Robinson its in whats not there, even though obviously trump has been a supporter of robinson for years supported him in the in his primary what do you make of Robinsons Absence from the Trump Rally . Look robinson exists because Donald Trump has lifted him up throughout and candidates up and down the ballot in North Carolina need to have they need to be held accountable for supporting Mark Robinson and being part of his entire campaign they have been supporting him and now it looks like folks want to run away from them but they have lifted Mark Robinson could not exist without the support of Donald Trump former republican North Carolina governor pat mccrory, who lost reelection in 2016, told cnn that he thinks this controversy would work to the democrats advantage and probably does work against President Trump. Is there a reverse Coattails Effect . Do you think obviously robinson versus you . This is going to have an impact on that race, but do you think the Robinson Controversy can actually help Kamala Harris win in North Carolina yeah. Im not a political scientist, but there has been incredibly exciting new found energy for the Harriswalz Campaign here north gallant she had 25,000 people at a Rally Week ago. So shes got momentum. I think shes going to win, but i am absolutely focused on winning my race, which is to defeat Mark Robinson. Weve got a completely different worldview. I believe fundamentally that our democracy is based on equality. Its what drives my public life. Mark robinson does not believe that he thinks that there are some people who are good and acceptable and other people who are not its about hate, not hope its about division, not unity. We have so much potential to do better here in North Carolina. But we have to win. My race is going to be incredibly close. Kamala harris is race is going to be close. If folks want to help or learn more than go to joshstein joshstein. Org, Vice President harris has facing calls from even many democrats to branch out in her public appearances do Town Halls with voters do more interviews, do a Press Conference lets take more questions about her positions, not necessarily from the likes of oprah, but maybe more like i dont know me or other network anchors. Do you agree with that . Forgot that part of it. Do you agree with it . She should be doing more Mixing It Up a little bit more well, i far be it from me to advise the Vice President on how to run her campaign. She went from nowhere to neck and neck. So ive got nothing to advise her on. All i can tell you is im here talking to you im traveling the state. Im going to be im in Rocky Mount right now getting ready to go to church so ill be in pittsboro later, durham after that my obligation is to get in front of his many north carolinians as i can to talk about my vision for a brighter future, one that is positive, welcoming, forward, looking as opposed to the vision of my opponent in this race, who, which is Division Violence and hate are theres a brighter future. His is a darker past and thats the choice voters in North Carolina are going to have. And im going to try to help them see that so that they can make the right choice. And i think if voters know whats at stake the crossroads where North Carolinas finds itself, they will make the right decision. Lets say im a conservative republican voter in North Carolina, and i read william uncomfortable with Lieutenant Governor Robinson why would i vote for you . Youre a progressive democrat because the issues im focused on continuing to grow the economy and make it worked for more people. Safer neighborhoods, stronger schools with wellpaid teachers, where our personal Freedom Williams are protected. These issues are not blue issues, they are not read issues, they are North Carolina issues. And i have a Track Record of fighting for the people of North Carolina and delivering whether its tackling the Opioid Crisis or eliminating would have been the largest backlog of untested Rape Kits in the country are fighting for our public schools think that conservative voters, moderate voters, progressive voters, they can see in me, It Candidate who will be dedicated every day to try to help folks have a better chance of a brighter future. All right. Attorney general stein, thanks so much for joining us today. I appreciate it. Thanks. The campaign is in the homestretch, but theres plenty of time for more surprises will take a walk down Memory Lane when the panel joins us next carb. Winning is everythings stupid. 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One of them, an nbc News Poll shows 48 of voters have a positive view of harris, maybe even more significant than the Hate Head to Head Race is, is this improvement when it comes to of positive versus negative view thats a 16 Point Jump from july. Are you surprised by that or she had a good debate and shes had a good postconvention bounces. But in The End, this war is still comes down to pennsylvania secondarily, North Carolina and georgia i think shes weaker than most democratic candidates are in pennsylvania. Polls show at the Washington Post had the tide this there this week and republicans win North Carolina, we went ten to the last 12 races there, ten the last 12 senate races. Thats Donald Trumps path of georgia, North Carolina, and pennsylvania. I think a really important Data Point in that Nbc Poll though, is that voters by, i think a doubledigit margins . Kamala harris represents changed. Thats why you saw theres not that is to me, seven to 36 or something. Yeah. Yeah. So look, that is almost to me that is almost the ballgame, not interested in the Vice President s point is hurt for task here is to define herself as the candidate exactly where that comes in for the change Canada Portion of this its because the american people still dont necessarily know where Kamala Harris stands on the issues. So since there is a vacuum of information that exists in polling, is panning that out, that people are still asking questions about what her policy positions are. Of course, thats going to lead to her being the Change Candidate because its just a big question as this point as to where she is going to land on fracking economy, people can project what they viewed on her, whether or not that is a generic democrat. This point but keep in mind the only Vice President in our history that we all thought of as really running things and being in charge was Dick Cheney . Right . No other Vice President that weve thought of has been somebody we thought was actually making decisions at the president always made It Decisions and nothing that was true in this administration look, i guess it meant she represents change though. I mean, but no, but but if people dont think that she was actually the one that was doing all the policy that may have they may feel funny about. Theyre not going to make her responsible for all of that. But if you do the image, trump suffers, judge, from the two shot, right . When you put the two of them up next to each other, shes young and shes female, almost 20 years younger than him and hes older and hes male and he just really looked like the old days. And what people remember. And weve seen some of this this weekend North Carolina story. Is it all is kind of a mess. And i think a lot of people just want to get away from the Mass And Move on to something dont no incumbent Vice President has any fresher than yesterday said the fact that theyre letting her run a change campaign, that thats a real problem if youre the trump campaign, you got to push back on that. Well, i was just going to say, i mean, i think you give some credit to the Harris Campaign for having navigated these last now 67 weeks since she went to the top of the ticket, it was not a foregone conclusion that the campaign was going to go as well as it has been going for her. I think they have really put a premium on driving this contrast between the politics that trump has embodied for the last ten years that people are tired of. Theyre tired of the hostility theyre tired of the incessant whining, the constant complaining, the threats to democracy. Her team has been really smart about making that the jumping off point for change rather than allowing the changed dynamic to be centered on Vice President bidens economic policy. So erin, can i just say i want to show something to you because this is i was just on social Media Yesterday and i was just looking, you know, whats the latest stuff that we can talk about with the panel. Here is what mr. Trump put on social Media Yesterday. Its about selling Trump Coins for the low, low price of a hunter youre dollars. This comes after previous 60 a trump bibles, 99 Nft Trading cards, 399, trumps shoes. Take, take a look at this new message from the Trump Team are announcing the launch of Trump Coins, a true symbol of american greatness. Each coin comes with a certificate of authenticity with my signature to ensure you have purchased a real Trump Coin ive seen a lot of coins out there using my very beautiful face very beautiful guy. Im only kidding. But they are not the official coin all right. So like this isnt from like 30 years ago, this was yesterday its not uncommon for the Trump Team to do something different when it comes to fundraising and the 2020 campaign, we had trumps trial for the campaign. I my understanding i dont know not its not uncommon for trump to try and do different Sales Tactics even if its the campaign or not, you look at him. He sold bibles. Hes selling coins. He sold the Photo Book about his time in the Presidency And Theyve done it on the Campaign Side as well with this is im Tom Cotton tried this earlier, which is just like i note something odd and he says hes been doing this for years yes, its still doesnt doesnt mean its not. I didnt say its not odd. I mean, that looks like an infomercial he said there and was like and youll get a certificate of also said there were limited edition and theyre not you go to the page and it says unlimited supply and hes also still raising money for his legal defense fund. By the way, i mean, this actually goes to a really important point here, which is the man is an adjudicated, convicted criminal. And that is something that is registering and peoples minds and i think when you see him out, kind of Like Hawking Shoes or coins, its a good reminder. Why is he raising Money Will in part for his own legal defense. So lets go to hundreds of millions of dollars fine, but said he is facing lets go to whats going on, carolina because i do want to get heres two responses. One of them is a harris add, a tying Lieutenant Governor Robinson to Donald Trump, and then were going to get the republican Gop Committee in North Carolina Response Luther King would a Pass A Bill so you can have an abortion in North Carolina for any Risks Abortion in this country its about the killing the child because you werent responsible enough to keep your start down. Ive been with them a ive gotten to know him and hes outstanding. Donald trump and Mark Robinson. Theyre both wrong for North Carolina. Now heres the tweet from the North Carolina republican party. The left needs this election to be a personality contest, not a policy contest, because if voters are focused on policy, republicans win on election day. The left can try to smear Mark Robinson all they want. But when voters go to the polls on election day, theyre going to be asking one simple question. Are you better off now than you were four years ago . The answer is overwhelmingly know, and thats why republicans will win on november 5. I understand why thats their message. I dont know that thats what people are going to be thinking. Ive never seen an election where someone below the president ial Candidate Influence the top of it, much less Donald Trump, whos the most known, most polarizing person in american politics. And we have an incumbent administration. Its unpopular this election, North Carolina is going to be between where you better off four years ago, the rna im not sure i agree with that. I think this is a question of whether robinsons comments, which are beyond the pale vial. I mean, this is not like these are things that are appalling. And i think were talking about a question of voter turnout. And suppressing turnout. I do broadly agree that there probably not a lot of trump voters who are going to say robinsons conduct impacts my decision to vote for trump. I do think there are voters who are going to say trumps chaos plus this completely unacceptable vile language from the gubernatorial candidate. Im staying home and remember, biden only lost North Carolina by what Percentage Point i mean, this is going to be very close in North Carolina and to brads point, weve never seen where its been reverse coattails to pull down on the ticket, but republicans need to be looking at a couple of things now in the state. One is there going to be depressed turnout for republicans because theyre just not excited about the fact that they might pull the lever for Mark Robinson and they need to be youre looking at what strategy trumps going to tell you how he feels about North Carolina in the coming days. Are they going to be changing out their ads . Are they going to be going more negative on camo to try to drive up her negatives to keep her voters out of that ad was cut very quickly, but didnt include any of the new reporting from cnn, which tells me they had that in the can ready to go and jumped at the news to be able to try to tie them to together this isnt necessarily a Strategy Shift for them as it is accelerating, putting that ad out because they saw the type. So the question is, can Donald Trump hold the republican coalition together and bring in a few more voters like hes been able to do in North Carolina to keep the state to republicans or is Kamala Harris going to be able to depressed republican turnout to be able to turn it if you were advising Donald Trump, would you say stand by Mark Robinson or would you say cut, or would you just say kind of like try to have it both ways as he seems to be doing it now. Well, Donald Trumps always going to do it where hes going to have it both ways. I would say cut and run your own race if youre any republican in the state of North Carolina remember there are also a lot of new voters in North Carolina that werent there in the last election dominican narrow for npr than an excellent piece reacted chronicles the number of voters who have moved from other states, North Carolina, and people whove left North Carolina to go to other states. So its a huge change in electric so now the question is, are bunch of people who dont have a lot of history there. Theyre gonna be the first time encountering this. And do they really want to sign up for the party with Mark Robinson and Donald Trump at the head of it. All right. Well be right back Phillip Weeknights at ten eastern on cnn what hes thinking im thinking about her honeymoon, about africa so far hot air balloon ride, swim with elephants waiting 34 to safari great question. 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