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Morning. Have a great weekend happening now Kamala Harris rallies in Georgia Voters on the issue of Abortion Rights as trump allies on the States Election Board approved a very, very controversial new rule requiring many ballots be counted by hand. This, as were learning that Donald Trump personally made the pitch to the brassica officials seeking an Election Rule Change that could potentially hurt the Harris Campaign. Also tonight, republicans in North Carolina Carolina are assessing the damage after Cnns Bombshell Report on offensive Porn Sites posts by their nominee for governor. We have new information about how the Harris Campaign is trying to tie Donald Trump directly to Mark Robinson as this scandal intensified. And after the wave of deadly blasts across lebanon Targeting Hezbollah, an expert tells us what it takes to turn a Lowtech Pager into a relatively powerful explosive device. Welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. Im wolf blitzer. Youre in the Situation Room new efforts by Donald Trump and his allies to change State Election rules in ways that could potentially help republicans. Have Alayna Treene standing by with details on a phone call. The former president had with officials in nebraska. But first cnns Sara Murray reports are there new controversial move by republicans on the georgia Election Board three people are all Pit Bulls Fighting for honesty, transparency, and victory. There, fighting those three republicans on the georgia state Election Board, who Donald Trump praised at a Campaign Rally last month, charging ahead with a controversial new rule about Hand Counting ballots. So this leaves us in a very difficult position. Do we maintain the Status Quo because its easier . Or do we make a few adjustments so that we can be better, but its not better for many bipartisan election officials across the state who begged the board to pause a new rules ahead of november, the idea that youre not going to listen to the individuals that are charged with conduct elections is absurd to me, State Officials from Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensberger to Attorney General Chris Carr, issued a sharp warnings. Thanks. Several of the dozen rules the board is considering may run foul of the law were too close to the election. In fact, were really just three weeks before we start early voting. And its just too late in the cycle, the new rule doesnt help determine a winner. Rather, it requires a Hand Count of the number of ballots at Polling Places on the left and day, and then comparing the number of ballots cast with the number recorded by voting machines. Critics say its a recipe for chaos. If i were to hand this stack of paper to three random people in this room especially at the end of a long Voting Day and ask them to arrive at the scene. Im total number. Do we think thats feasible . People doing a Hand Count are going to make mistakes, which can then be exploited to spread lies. Raffensperger says the change could delay reporting results on election night, you start breaking up the Ballot Boxes after you closed precinct. You wont be getting those Election Day votes until maybe 1 00, 2 00 michael 4 00 in the morning and we just dont believe thats healthy for the republican. We dont think its healthy for people of georgia. The three Trump Backed Republicans pass the rule. Anyway push and past three to two independent chairman of the fivemember board. If this board votes to implement this rule i think that we put ourselves in legal jeopardy now, this new rule is almost certainly going to face legal challenges even as you heard there from the Chairman Of The Board and to that and Georgia Secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger put out a statement after the Board Meeting Today saying Attorney General Chris Carr has stated that these rules would not withstand a legal challenge, and i have worked every Day Strength in Georgias Election Law to ensure our elections remain safe, secure, and free. So now were just kind of waiting to see where those legal challenges theyre going to come from wolf. All right. Sara murray for me for us. Thank you, sara. I want to go to Alayna Treene right now with new reporting just into cnn on Donald Trumps push for a change in a key rule on how votes are allocated in the state of nebraska, alayna, give us the latest where exactly right wolf, Donald Trump and his allies have been Making Waves in nebraska in their effort to make this Lastminute Change too the states Election Law and really, it could have major ramifications come november and republicans are pushing to alter the States Allotment to a winner take all format. And the effort really reached new heights this week when on wednesday that brassicas republican governor Jim Pillen hosted two Dozen State senators and officials at the Governors Mansion about this. Now im told Lindsey Graham who has been speaking directly with Donald Trump about this effort, was there as well, and our colleague Jeff Zeleny and i recently learned that trump himself made a Brief Call into the meeting on wednesday and Nebraska Republican Official described it as a brief conversation during which trump talked about the importance of Nepal Roscoe changing its Election Law. And at one point, the official said that Donald Trump described the law as unfair though he did not mention that he actually won the Omaha Area District in 2016, but lost it four years later. They added that trump was neither threatening nor overly persuasive in those brief remarks, which i will say grandma range, that call but look, i think the Reason Wolf that this is so important is because with just less than 50 days until the election, this could massively undercut harriss chances the best way to really describe why this one vote in Nebraska Matters is that harris can sweep the blue wall, meaning, win in michigan, wisconsin, and pennsylvania, and still not get to two 100 170 electoral vote. She needs that one electoral vote in omaha to put her Over The Edge in that scenario. Now the other dynamic at play here is that aside from nebraska, mean is the only other state that splits its electoral its electoral votes this way back in april when this Nebraska Idea was first gaining steam we actually heard from maines democratic House Majority Leader marine terry. She issued a Statement Saying that if nebraska had made such a move, she would push for a similar move in maine, which i should note delivered one electoral vote to trump in 2016 and 2020. But due to maines laws, its now too late for them to act in response. Now, i do just want to be clear that despite all of this, republicans in nebraska do not currently have the votes to do that. So its unclear what will happen. But again, i cannot underscore how important this could be if something like this were to happen and how it could negatively impact harriss chances in November Alayna treen. Excellent reporting. Thank you very much. I want to bring in our political experts who are all here with me in the Situation Room. David axelrod potentially very significant. Whats going on in nebraska right now in an effort to get 270 Electoral College vote. Yeah. Well, i think Lindsey Graham went there so to talk to them about this, the president , apparently former President Trump called in for a reason and its just as alayna laid it out. If if Kamala Harris at the most likely path for her still pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin in that one district in nebraska, it its a tie. It goes to the house and the house votes based on the majority of each delegation. In other words, there i think i dont know what these i think its 26 republican delegations now, 24 democratic delegations but it would give trump the edge if this thing gets kicked into the house. So you can imagine the turmoil that that would create wolf. It would create a lot of Turmoil Id that Kadia Goba is from semafor has with us as well. Could thanks for coming in. And what does it tell you that Donald Trump is personally making Phone Calls to some of his supporters in nebraska. I think they understand how tight this election is and all things are on the table. Well, and even if that means peeling away that one electoral vote in nebraska. Now, its funny that seems to be fluid obviously what the new reporting about trump making the call, is, there was there were murmurs earlier this morning saying that those two to three set states senators were going to flip that has since changed. I talked to don bacon early this morning. He said he did not think that that was going to happen. So it seems to be pretty fluid. Very fluid. Lets see how, what you think its appropriate. Scott jennings for nebraska to serve changing its Electoral College rules so close to an election, i dont know it is. It is appropriate as the democrats changing their nominee is late in the game thats probably what trump would say. I dont know if theyre gonna be able to get the votes for it or not, but acts and alayna are exactly right that one vote could make the difference. And look, theyre trying to scratch out every possible advantage they can get. And im sure the republicans feel like thats exactly how the democrats have played it this year. And theyre willing to play hardball to do the same do you think axe . Well, its interesting that bacon is opposed to this, and there are the key legislative vote. There is a State Senator from omaha who wants to run for mayor. And the folks in omaha are not excited about this change. So that guy is crosspressured. I dont know whats going to happen here in terms of the appropriateness of it. Look, i think that i think its a little different than a candidate resigns and another candidate comes in. I think people are going to look at this and theyre going to say its changing the rules of the game, not the candidates, the rules of the game in the middle, what does this tell you, david, about how the Trump Campaign is getting involved this late in the campaign in trying to change various rules, whether in Nebraska Or Georgia for them yeah. No look, i think this is a very close election, i think is going to be a very close election. And scott suggests theyre trying to get every advantage. Whats interesting about the situation . Mission in georgia where we have three audits of the 2020 election which all said the same thing. You have a Republican Secretary of state presumably backed by a republican governor who is who is at odds with these republicans on this election committee. So that tells you something, hopefully the courts can resolve this situation yeah, i think im sympathetic to arguments on both sides in georgia, actually, i think for some republicans believe it would instill more confidence in the vote count, but im also sympathetic to the idea that it may change the process and may also face this legal challenge. Actually, people on both sides of it, i have something important to say. Can i just say one thing . There was a Hand Count in georgia hes. Ballots and it validated the machinecount. The reason most states went to a Machine Count was because machines are more efficient at counting ballots. I think the interesting point is that both sides do think that there is an Election Integrity Thing associated republicans will say a Hand Vote is just going to be more accurate and to your point democrats are saying no, theres room for era, there. Its going to delay the vote and so, you know doubt on the election is if they have to Hand Count all those ballots, thats going to take a long time. Yeah, we dont nobody is like looking for a repeat of what we saw in 2020. Most of the states have made their systems more efficient in terms of preparing during for that. But this could definitely throw a wrench in the works. It was interesting. I thought the Georgia Republican Attorney General And Republican Secretary Of State both say this Move Wont stand withstand a legal challenge. Yeah, im not a lawyer, so couldnt i couldnt speak to it, but obviously they would know. And i do obviously there is going to be a legal challenge, and so i guess well have to see how the courts sorted out, but i think all of this that were talking about today, you just ought to if youre watching this and wondering why is all this happening . This thing is like a few hundred or a few thousand votes a knifes Edge Type of election. So everything that you think you can do to get an advantage, whether its a Nebraska Or Georgia, or North Carolina, or pennsylvania, or anywhere else. Both of these campaigns are trying to do, pull out every stop right now, its that close. You think oh, i do. I think this is a a Coin Flip Election right now that can change but it really seems like its on that track very close by, by all accounts. How do you see it out for sure. We even look at the strategy when we see walz going to asheville, North Carolina if thats the strategy, strategy to chip away some of those red counties surrounding asheville. 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And one of the democrats top issues warning about the dangerous to women from the restrictive Abortion Law in that state and others. And casting blame squarely on Donald Trump. Cnns Priscilla Alvarez covered the rally that latter for us, priscilla Kamala Harris really tried to capitalize on the fight for Reproductive Rights she did well shes delivered an impassioned address while here in atlanta in what was ultimately a very somber event of course, the reason that she came, you here, it was on the heels of that Propublica Report about those two women who died and whose deaths were linked to the States Abortion restrictions. In fact, sources tell me that the report was so jarring to the Vice President that she directed her team to come here as a detour before she headed to wisconsin this evening, it was the type of rapid Response Travel that weve seen the Vice President do multiple times over the past year, and we saw her bring her argument. On Reproductive Rights right here in battleground, georgia, where she talked about the Trump Abortion bans and use the moment to draw a stark contrast. With republicans. Take a listen one in three, Women In America lives in a state with a Trump Abortion ban this includes georgia and every state in the south, except virginia think about that when you compound that with what has been longstanding neglect of women in communities with a lack of adequate resources, they need for health care. Prenatal, during their pregnancy postpartum think about that. These hypocrites want to start talking about this is in the best interest of women and children who have been when it comes to taking care of the women and children of america so a couple of things there, wolf, the Vice President , clearly trying to draw on personal anecdotes to explain the effect of the overturning of roe v. Wade. This of course, an issue that the campaign is banking on to mobilize voters into november. So the Vice President taking opportunity here, state by the way, where the campaign is also running ads on this very issue to galvanize voters, mobilize them to the vote, to the polls in november, and an issue that she will continue to be talking about in the weeks to come. Well, sure. She would. All Priscilla Alvarez in atlanta for us. Thank you very much joining us now, the chair of the Jury Russia democratic Party Representative Nikema Williams representative. Thanks so much for joining us. Have the deaths of these Two Georgia Women Who Vice President harris spoke about today, changed our people in your state view, the restrictions on abortion well, i listened to the Vice President s impassioned Remarks Today in atlanta. And when she said where you ben, i know where theyve been. I know where are republican governor Brian Kemp was . He signed this bill into law and nowhere Donald Trump was Donald Trump bragged about overturning roe v. Wade, making and its possible. So when i hear the pain in the familys voices of these two women who lost their lives, preventable deaths, wolf, i know that we had choices. These were preventable deaths and we had republican leaders in this country like Brian Kemp and Donald Trump, who made this possible. I was in the State Senate when this law was being debated on the floor and i read story after story after story of women who would be impacted by this law, we had experts, we had doctors who came in to testify in committee. So that legislators couldnt say they didnt know what the consequences would be. We knew and we warn now all of this is coming to light and a nightmare that is living out not just in georgia, but across the country and if Donald Trump has his way, his project 2025 agenda will ban abortion nationwide, and we will see this across the country. So wolf, theres a clear contrast on the ballot, and we must elect Kamala Years as president of the united states, so that she can stop this. And we got us in her a democratic House And Senate because we pass the Womens Health Protection act and the house, and we were waiting, Joe Biden was waiting to sign this into law, but we could not get republicans to stand up and do the right thing. To protect women in this country. But wolf, i am not going to stop until we get protections codified in the law so that we can protect women. This is my home state. I gave birth to my own self at a piedmont hospital. This is personal for me, wolf, very personal indeed, congresswoman on another very sensitive issue two, in georgia, the Georgia Gop controlled Election Board is, you know, is now requiring ballots cast on Election Day to be counted potentially delaying results, not just for days, but maybe for weeks. Why do you think they are taking this step . Well, it is a play from the same tired playbook they lost in 2020 and change the rules. We had our majority making senate runoffs. They lost again and they changed the rules republicans dont know how to play fair. Donald trump already tried to overturn the will of the voters in georgia, trying to find 11,780 votes. But will we play by the rules, we win and then republicans try and change the rules. This is the same thing. They want to sow doubt in the election process. So that when he loses, once again in the battlegrounds, georgia, they can say, well, its because the numbers didnt match. Its because of this and they want a lengthy Hand Count of every single ballot in this Battleground State because they see the writing on the wall, Donald Trump is going to lose once again, and they want to put doubt in the mind of voters of if this was a fair and free election so well georgia democrats, congresswoman, bring a lawsuit to stop this are already involved in lawsuits and the State Of Georgia around election certification, we are going to continue to do everything that we can to ensure voters that when they show up to cast their Ballot Alice Georgia democrats will make sure that those votes are not only counted, but certified. This is the bare minimum. The shouldnt be something that is partisan. This is the bare minimum because were not just talking about democratic votes all votes counted. Well, i wont democratic votes counted republican votes and independent and unaffiliated votes. All votes counted. And i call him our republican colleagues to stand with me for free and fair elections and count every vote and certify them. Its as simple as that representative Nikema Williams of georgia. Thanks so much for joining us thank you, wolf. Im coming up scandal rocks North Carolina politics after Cnns Bombshell Reporting on the republican nominee for governor, new information on how its impacting the president ial race than by winning is everythings stupid. Saturday, October 5th on cnn hes coming in the driveway treated for leukemia i hope she lives a Long Gray had to ice and that she wont ever forget how Mom And Eddie lover st. Jude. I mean, this is whats keeping my Baby Girl a lot of this september, you can join the battle to save lives during Childhood Cancer Awareness month by supporting st. Jude Childrens Research Hospital for just 19 a month. Your help us continue the lifesaving Research And Treatment. These kids need now. 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The Gop Nominee for North Carolina ms governor, moving forward with his campaign after the deadline passed for him to withdraw as Absentee Ballots are sent out to voters friday, the fresh swirl of controversy follows a Cnn Kfile Investigation that found robinson made a series of inflammatory comments on a pornographic websites message board, more than a decade ago referring to himself as a black nazi and expressing support for Reinstating Slavery among other salacious, lewd and gratuitous statements thank you so much Roman Robinson Categorically denying the allegations, do this was not us. These are not our words and this is not anything that is characteristic of me, but the Controversy Marcee extending beyond the Tar Heel States Race for governor with robinson having received the endorsement of former president Donald Trump, who has repeatedly praised the conservative firebrand this is Martin Luther King on steroids. Okay. The campaign of Vice President Kamala Harris, highlighting the ties between Trump And Robinson in a new ad friday to pass a bill. So you can have an abortion in North Carolina for any Risks Abortion in this country, its about killing chow because you werent responsible enough to keep your skirt down. Ive been with them. Ive gotten to know him and his outstanding the former president is set to hold a rally in the Battleground State on saturday, sources tell Cnn Robinson has not been invited to the event despite being a regular presence at trumps events in the state, including to last as month some trump allies are dismissing the potential impact on the former president s campaign. Were going to be filed in North Carolina. This issue is going to come and go. But the reality of whats happened in our country remains and thats why Donald Trumps going to win the state of North Carolina as democrats in North Carolina seek to turn Robinsons Controversy into a challenge for other republicans. I think that when people go to the polls, they need to think about these candidates who had supported an encouraged somebody like Mark Robinson and continue to do so have Dianne Gallagher is joining us now, live from charlotte, North Carolina dianne is the Republican Party. Theyre taking any steps at all to distance itself from robinson North Carolina Republican Party is standing by their man they issued a Statement Saying in part this is just the left trying to demonize him via personal attacks, but i can tell you privately, ive had republicans reaching out to me for more than 48 hours now very panicked about how this is going to affect the downballot. You have the actual republican candidates parsing their words, approaching this very gingerly as their democratic opponents trot out every Photo Theyve ever taken with robinson, and any kind of endorsement or even kind words, theyve said about him to try and link them, not just a robinson but this reporting make them deny it and talk about it. You know, there was a previously scheduled fundraiser for robinson next week that feature the republican Governors Association and chair bill lee, a source familiar tells cnn that is no longer happening. And Governor Lee is not coming to North Carolina. Wolf interesting, i, Dianne Gallagher charlotte. Thank you very much. Lets get a little bit more reaction to all of this dramatic developments from our political experts, Alayna Treene is with us as well. So Donald Trump is set to hold a rally as we heard in North Carolina tomorrow, as the Harris Campaign is releasing this ad, trying to tie trump to robinson. Whats going on . I think first of all, i dont think its surprising at all that the Harris Campaign is seizing on this. But i think the timing of this Rally Tomorrow with trump going to North Carolina is pretty stunning. I know that so obviously, when i talked to Donald Trumps team about this, they recognize that this may be, isnt the best timing, but i will say dianne had mentioned That Robinson he isnt going to be showing up to this. I know that even before this Kfile Investigation had published some people in Donald Trumps orbit had been prepared for damaging story and they had not invited robinson even before this story came out to that event, which i have to note is interesting in and of itself because robinson has been at most, if not all of Donald Trumps North Carolina events over the past year now and that comes even as Donald Trumps campaign has been trying to distance trump from him. And this has even before some of this latest Bombshell Joel reporting That Robinson had made for a long time. Now a series of inflammatory comments he had previously mocked victims of school shootings. He had made disparaging remarks about the civil rights movement. So that was already something i know that the trauma okay. Campaign was concerned about, but trump himself meanwhile, has continued to praise him, even last month at a rally in asheboro, he had called Up Robinson to the stage. That wasnt a planned Speaking Engagement and asked him to talk. So its going to be difficult for the former president to move away from this. But i know when i talked to trumps team, they say theyre really hoping he doesnt get into this at all tomorrow, that he doesnt bring this up. You never know what Donald Trump likes to go off script. So i guess well have to see what happens david axelrod, theres another issue i wanted you get to while i have you and well discuss it as you know, Donald Trump addressed the group of jewish republicans and he said this, let me play this clip and then well discuss, listen to this im not going to call this as a prediction, but in my opinion, the jewish people would have a lot to do with a loss. If im at 40 , its only because of the Democrat Hold or curse on you. You cant let this happen. The democratic Fold Or Curse on you meeting the Jewish Community. What do you make of these comments . What i make is if i were advising him, id say thats not the greatest pitch to the Jewish Community that if i lose its going to be your fault and beyond beyond that, he said after all, ive done for you, you essentially owe me these votes and i cant believe people arent giving tweet. He said theyre voting for the enemy the enemy, meaning Kamala Harris hes also said that Israel Wouldnt exist in two years. I think he didnt that same remarks in those same remarks, if he loses the election, i mean, thats in a way thats all of Donald Trump wrapped up into one package. Theyre the things that get him into trouble. Atlanta says, well, his campaign is hoping he wont say they dont know what hes going to say. And often what he says is offensive. This was deeply offensive and its not going to get them any jewish votes. Ill tell you that the offensive he says if he loses, its the jews fast theyre his tastes, symmetric. You gotta, with 100 . The second gentleman, scott, and Doug Emhoff writes this about trumps comments. Let me read it to our viewers. Donald trump, once again, fan The Flames of antisemitism by trafficking and tropes, blaming and scapegoating jews he even did an event perpetrating purporting, i should say, to fight Antisemitism And Os this is dangerous and must be condemned. What do you think . Well, i dont see it that way. I think these opinions are valid because X Isnt the second gentleman or both jewish americans and their right their opinion. I think he was in articulate, but i think what he was acknowledging is something thats absolutely true jewish americans overwhelmingly vote democrat. And in his opinion, there is every reason for them to reconsider those votes in this election when you consider that the left its october the seventh apparently has become a Wash And Antisemitism out there. And so maybe there was a more articulate way to make this pitch. Maybe theres a better or a smoother way to make the pitch. But right now republicans are trying to point out to jewish american voters that look, there are a lot of people on the left who have let the veil of antisemitism slip. And if the democrats maintain control of this government, theyre going to be listening to a lot of people who dont have israels best interests at heart and who may be sympathetic to israels enemies. You want to react . Yeah, well, look, im im the son of a jewish immigrant who fled the pogroms and Violence And Death and antisemitism so im pretty sensitive to antisemitism wherever it comes from. Ive said this to you before. There are two things you can hold two thoughts at once. You can be horrified about october 7, as i am for very personal reasons, and still grieve for the children of gaza. That doesnt make you an antisemite. Now, there is some antisemitism out there. It should be condemned left and right. But what he said in those you said hes its inarticulate. It was deeply offensive. It was deeply, deeply offensive that jews are going to be responsible for my defeat and you owe me your votes. Is beyond the pale. Alayna, youre covering all of this. What are you hearing . I mean, i think theres no question that some of these remarks from Donald Trump Last Night were deeply controversial, particularly when he said that jewish americans need to have their heads examined theyre going to be voting for Kamala Harris. And i think its important though, to keep in mind what the goal of those two Events Yesterday were. One was that you know, he has been trying for a long time now to really court many of these disaffected Jewish American Richins who are concerned. Some, many of which are concerned with the way that the biden administration has handled the war between israel and hamas. But at the same time when he makes these comments, and i know from many republicans that i talked to and allies of Donald Trump who want him to when in november, they say that these arent helping, these are turning these people off. And yet he continues to make them what we heard from him Last Night. These are not new. He has made many of these talked in these anti, share these antisemitic tropes a lot in the past its something that i think they need to work on Last Night. Look ahead to november. Thank you very much, guys. Thank you. Also, do you just ahead an update on a shocking Killing And Kentucky were sheriff is now charged with murdering a local judge Saturday Syscall seen him is taking a break from Breaking News whos to air . Have i got news for you . Breaking news. Im getting a sandwich. We need to talk about what constitutes Breaking News. Her via got news for you tomorrow at nine on Cnn Stream next day on max. J is really knows how to put the heart and your local community. See what i did there jackie evan, My Guy the evidence is dave is right youre saying that somebody like everyone i started my just got the first Debit Card are you i got you we hold on. 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The sheriff showed up to that courthouse went to the chambers. There was some sort of argument. Shots were fired. That courthouse was put on lockdown on so were several School Schools nearby. We also have the Mug Shot for sheriff stines, who is now being housed in the leslie county jail. Its believed his Court Appearance will be sometime next week, but were still trying to get to the bottom of exactly what happened that set this whole thing in motion. We do know that Mullins Brotherinlaw says in a Facebook Post but theres murder is heartbreaking. Tried cases against Each Other before he was the judge and never had a disagreement outside of that courtroom. We have always got along. I always fly he was hilarious. I always thought he was very witty he was found to be around outside of court and as her brotherinlaw, i will never forget how kind he was to my children. Now stines was first elected as sheriff back in 2018. 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The idf pressing forward with what it calls a new era of war after a series of deadly explosions involving his balah walkietalkies and pagers. Cnns Brian Todd has been talking to a Demolition Expert about how those devices were turned into weapons. What are you learning . Brian . Well wolf coming out here to this range in pennsylvania, you can see the aftermath of our test right here. We learned that its an incredibly dangerous and complicated process to rig a device this small to blow up, especially if youre rigging it to explode several days later amount of plastic explosives packed into a pager can have a detonation. This big this was a person what happens to the person . Its gonna be catastrophic. What just took place here to the human body, the impact shown on a mannequin, it was clipped to can be fatal over time, bleeding out things of that nature and apparently there were some people who have serious facial and eye injuries. Could this blind you i was forever. Yeah, absolutely walkietalkie is a larger device with more room to hold explosives inside and more material to be sent flying. And its often held close to the face this one caused even more damage, debris strewn widely, pieces of Twisted Metal launched as far as 100 yards and severe injury to the mannequin, it would be devastating if it were in your Handler Close to your head these two tests were done at Cnns Request in the wake of the explosions this week of pagers walkietalkies in lebanon said to Target Hezbollah members and causing thousands of injuries and dozens of deaths based on photos of the debris of devices in lebanon, these tests use Pet And Explosive on a pager of the same branding and a walkietalkies similar in size to the ones targeted in lebanon. Cnn is not showing how the explosives might be placed or how they might be detonated. Three, to one the tests were conducted by ryan morris, a former explosive specialists with the department of homeland security, who runs a firm which trains government and military personnel. Whoever did it, they were pretty skilled another Explosives Expert who examined a walkietalkie similar to the model targeted in lebanon, said Making Thousands of bombs was a big and risky undertaking. You dig a lot of time for the explosive to me, putin, for it to be connected to the initiating mechanism will be connected to the detonator john, for the exploding while theyre doing all this is also there and the devices are so small. I dont find any empty space in this difficult. How hard is it to, i guess . Pack and explosive into something this small some other has any knowledge of this Trade Care can do it very easily. Its, you can secrete explosives and anything and triggering thousands of them all at once if they have all the numbers for the for the pagers, they just send a massive texts to all of them. All those numbers, and they go off the same time vulnerable is the Traveling Public to explosives like that . Ryan moore says, Airport Technology right now is really good at detecting tiny Trace Amounts of Explosive Material on devices like this. And the material stays on you. I got a tiny Trace Amount of it on My Hands and ryan said it would stay with me for a while. While no matter how many times i wash My Hands, wolf i, Brian Todd. Excellent report. Thank you very much coming up the shocking Admission Today from the acting head of the u. S. Secret Service Outfront next on cnn love your phone, but not the cost of your current plan no problem with straight talk you love and get one line for 25 a month. Month. 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Well, if the Acting Director did acknowledge several failures by the Secret Service, particularly in the lead up to Donald Trumps july 3, 13 rally in butler, pennsylvania. And youd heard just now he specifically noted that there was a complacency in his view among the advanced teams sent by the Secret Service to secure that Rally Site . Prior to trumps rival on the 13th. He suggests in this report and in his Remarks Today that this Complacency Lead to a deferral of the responsibility for were securing that side and ultimately contributed to why that shooter was allowed to have a clear line of sight at Donald Trump as he started his remarks that day. And look, the Acting Director is insisting that lessons have to be learned from the failures of trumps July 13 rally. And he did say again that he that requires a Paradigm Shift at the agency really a holistic overhaul of how the agency evaluates threads for potential for protectees like Donald Trump and look, the report itself also details really disturbing Communication Breakdowns that the Acting Director also cited as a contributing factor in the Security Failures that day. Those failures include the fact that a warning about the shooter prior to the shooting taking place never reached Secret Service agents and trumps detail because this Communication Devices were not in direct contact with one another is a really more disturbing and concerning details wolf, were gonna continue to learn more about