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I bet to zahn ross. Thank you both so much acute. Their book again is called Lucky Loser well, thank you all for watching Anderson Cooper 360 is next exclusive, our kfile has uncovered startling comments on a Porn Site made by the man now running to be the republican governor of North Carolina, Mark Robinson. He denies the charges vows to stay in the race. The latest tonight. Also, just a few moments from now, Oprah Winfrey is scheduled to appear with Vice President Kamala Harris just outside of Detroit And Swing state, michigan, will bring you some of that live and Breaking News in kentucky, a judge shot dead in his own chambers authorities say a preliminary investigation indicates it was a sheriff who killed him or expecting a News Conference with more details we begin tonight with our cnn exclusive 47 days before the election, a Bombshell Report from cnns k kfiles about North Carolinas republican and Lieutenant Governor Mark Robinson, whos also his Partys Nominee for governor. Newly discovered comments that he made on the message of the Message Board of a Porn Website between the years 2008 in 2012 comments that follow an already lengthy history of controversial past remarks about abortion 911, and people who are transgender tonight, the naacp in North Carolina as Raleigh News and observers calling for robinson to drop out of the gubernatorial race with at least one congressional republican agreeing. And more starting to distance themselves from robinson. This comes as polls suggest, the state is the state, the former president has won twice, maybe up for grabs. Cnn excuse me, see, a senior editor of cnns kfile, Andrew Kaczynski joins us now so im talking about, first of all, where did robinson make these comments well, anderson, cnn found a series of highly disturbing posts made on the Message Board of a pornographic website. And more than a decade ago, we trace them directly to Mark Robinson. Now we did interview him today, any categorically denies making these posts. Ill get to that in just a moment. But first, i want to walk people through just some of them take a look at this right here in one post, robinson called himself a quote black nazi. And when discussing then President Barak Obama in 2012, Writing Quote i take hitler over any of the thats in washington right now. It even really goes beyond that in another disturbing post, robinson defended slavery Writing Quote, slavery is not bad and i wish they would bring back slavery. I would certainly buy a few. Now, all of these and many other comments you can read on cnn. Com were made of the Message Board of a Porn Website called Nude Africa. And anderson, in addition to those posts, he also expressed views on Nude Africa that sharply contradict his current policies as a socially conservative candidate for governor, for example, he has been vocally antitransgender, but look at What Robinson wrote on the porn Message Board a decade ago, writing that he liked, quote, watching transgender porn, adding quote, thats effing hot and calling himself a Quote Heard in another thread that was discussing the story of a woman who said she had been raped by her Taxi Driver while she was drunk, robinson wrote, quote, and the moral of this story, dont have a drunk white batch. So he wrote this all this years ago. He was i guess im not sure what he was doing that and it was a citizen before he got into politics, how do you know that its him . Well, anderson, we found that robinson consistently used that same username. Many soldier that he used on Nude Africa in all of his Social Media. You can see it on pinterest, black planet, youtube. He even previously used it as his Twitter Candle and his full name was also listed on Nude Africa along with an email that that he used on Nude Africa that he used on several other websites. Now the biographical data from multiple sites using menary soldier also matches robinsons, his exact date of birth, his hometown. The fact that his mother worked in hbcu, even having his favorite episode of the Twilight Zone as number 22. And what is robinson . So now saying about all this So Robinson calls this trash. He says its not him. We asked that campaign for comment and we gave them 48 hours to respond. That deadline was this morning and thats when Lieutenant Governor Robinson agreed to do a Brief Interview with us. Here is just a bit of that robinson. Thank you so much for being willing to talk to us. I think well just jump right into it. Do you deny that this account is you will first off, let me say thank you so much for allowing me to come here and clearly here, we absolutely do. I do. This is not us. These are not our words and this is not anything it his characteristic of me nor has it ever, has it ever been. The people here of North Carolina know i have been completely transparent about my history. All the wards and we put them all out. We let folks know about it but the folks here also know my character. They know who i am, they know my voice this is not my voice, this is not things that we would ever say or even think. So absolutely we do. How do you explain all of the matching details on this profile . The profile on Nude Africa lists your full name as Mark Robinson, the email listed on an account is an email that you used us you have used elsewhere on the internet, including with your photo. You have used that name many soldier on multiple Social Media accounts, including twitter, pinterest, black planet, and youtube. How can you deny with all of these matching details that this is you . Look, im not going to get into a new Sheriff House on my manufactured this all these salacious tabloid lives, but i can tell you this. Theres been over 1 Million spent on me through ai by Billionaire Son whos bound and determined to destroy me. The things that people can do with the internet now was incredible. But what i can tell you is this, again not, my words. This is simply Tabloid Trash being used as a distraction from the substantive issues that the people of this state are facing we have addressed it. We have said its not true and we wish we could Move On and get busy with the business of the people of the state okay. Well, these posts, they do take place over a fiveyear period from 2008 to 2013 you mentioned ai. Are you saying that somebody was somehow manufacturing biographical details to exactly match you using your username. I have no idea how this was going. I have absolutely no idea how it was done and i have five weeks left in this campaign to focus on the substantive issues that north carolinians face. I did not have time for Tabloid Trash. There have been rumors that some of your Campaign Staff have have quit. Can you tell us if thats true or not absolutely not. And we are not getting out of this race. There are people who are counting on almost win this race because again, we dont want a governor whos going to be a person that cant be counted on to tell The Truth. And i can assure you my opponent has been taken to court for not telling The Truth in campaigns and hes been completely dishonest in his ads against me. His camp is so desperate to destroyers. Its just like Clarence Thomas mossad years ago, this is a hightech lynching back long years ago. They used to use ropes, nauta, using table. Now, Lieutenant Governor Robinson released a Video On X shortly after our interview underscoring that he plans to still stay in the race, anderson. All right. Andrew kaczynski. Thank you. There are a lot of question, obviously tonight about what impact this might have on other candidates on the ballot in North Carolina, especially the top of the Gop Ticket want to go to alayna treene, whos covering the Trump Event Tonight in washington are you hearing anything from people in the former president s orbit about this . Yeah, weve, weve begun to hear some things about this. So many people in Donald Trumps orbit had actually been preparing and had heard rumblings about a controversial story about Mark Robinson prior to that, kfile reporting dropping. Today. Now, i had been told that they had not Donald Trumps campaign he not invited robinson to a rally that is scheduled for this saturday in wilmington, North Carolina. And now they are saying that that decision is expected to hold, but of course, very notable that Donald Trump is going to be in the state just days after this Bombshell Reporting from our own Andrew Kaczynski. Now, ive also been told that many people within it Donald Trumps campaign and those close to the former president has long had reservations about robinsons gubernatorial candidate, particularly because this isnt the first time that he has made very controversial and pretty damaging remarks. Remember, he has previously mocked victims of school shootings. He has been very demeaning to the civil rights its movement. Theres a lot of other examples i can point you to, but that has already led to a lot of unease within trumps orbit, but that hasnt stopped. I should argue Donald Trump for from continuing to support robinson. He endorsed him earlier this year, so theres a lot of questions about that now, i am told that Donald Trumps team wants to continue to try to distance him distance the. Former president from robinson. But at this moment in time, they say that there are no plans to try and pressure him to withdraw from the race himself. Anderson. Thank you. Im joined now by cnns eva mckend, Jamal Simmons, former Communications Director for Vice President harris, met maori and former official in the Trump Administration and former rnc communications Doug Heye jamal, theres a lot to unpack here. Im not sure how much we actually want to unpack, but still the Family Hour and apparently theres other things that were written which are have not been put out there. What what is the impact of this . Oh, i think its going to have a big deal in the state of North Carolina. Hes already down in the polls. Shes already down. But one thing thats gotten politicians in trouble in the past and maybe we will continue to is hypocrisy. The fact that he said things in public, that he does not seem to believe in private. The same. They also gets politicians in trouble as being hateful and going against american institutions and right now, i think most americans consider Martin Luther King to be an american institution. Theyre proud of slavery to be something that theyre against and dont want back. And hitler to be something they despise someone who despise so to be for those things is actually not really a great place for this candidate to be. So now what were going to see is whether or not trumps style politics will apply to him anybody else other than Donald Trump . Weve been waiting to see if a candidate who was iconic classic like trump, who was his hateful or says things that are maybe as hateful and can be a separate critic of trump. If that person will still win. We dont know, but we might see with Mark Robinson i mean, you spent all the time this swing states. Do you think this story like this resonates . Well, i think the Harris Campaign is eager to try to tie the former president to Mark Robinson. Were already seeing them do that tonight on Social Media. And it leans into a broader argument that they have been trying to make that the former president is too extreme that people like Mark Rutte ive been sin and by extension, the republican party is too extreme. And i think it is having an effect so we see them really investing in this republicans for harris trying to peel off these conservative voters that just cannot stomach supporting the former president. I met a Voter In Vegas who has never supported the democrat for president ever in his life. And he is supporting Vice President harris this cycle. And i asked him why and he said the most important issue to him, his character and so those are the type of voters that the Harris Campaign thinks that they can reach in the wake of stories like this one that, i mean, this is a person that a foreign Prison Trump once called but Martin Luther King on steroids. Do you think the former president should revoke his endorsement . Do you think its likely that he would because the statement put out by the Campaign Today didnt directly address cnns reporting on robinson yeah. I mean, look from a strategic perspective, what Donald Trump needs to do is if hes asked address it, say if its true, he doesnt agree with it and try to Pivot And Move on. I think at this stage, trying to withdraw an Endorsement Or Something like that, its just going to continue this story and ill say, having done politics now for almost 20 years, rarely do you see a downballot race impact about above it you often see an impact from top to the bottom if you have a bad federal Election Year for republican or democratic party, maybe downballot. It has an impact, but very rarely do you actually see an impact up ballot. So im not sure how much this is truly going to impact Donald Trumps campaign in North Carolina except to say that hes got to somehow find a way to keep republican volunteers enthused while also trying to show some distance between him and some of the obviously extreme comments and rhetoric of Mark Robinson. Ill just say one quick point where he stands today is not a surprise to the point you made anderson. I mean, we pulled this race, my firm pulled this race about europe for go for a different client. He was down a couple of points already earlier this year. He was already down by five and thats because of some of the controversial comments that the Stein Campaign has been playing for the better part of a year now doug, i mean, were monitoring the former president s event and i just in case you weighs in on this, meanwhile, North Carolina democratic Governor Ro just weighed in trying to Tying Robinson to trump as eva was indicating writing on Social Media, Donald Trump and North Carolina Gop Leaders embraced Mark Robinson for years, knowing who he was and what he stood for, including disrespect for women inciting violence. They reap what they so im wondering what you make of that well, anderson, North Carolinas my home state. Ive worked a few senate races there in spoke to more than one North Carolina current elected official and former elected official today. And im reminded of being in North Carolina in Chapel Hill and raleigh, North Carolina, the day of and the day after the Access Hollywood Tape came out. Big difference though, weve had a lot of these little access its hollywood tapes from Mark Robinson and Mark Robinson isnt Donald Trump match, right . He was probably toast before today. Now hes just a bigger piece of toast. The problem is that this isnt about the governors race. That race is over. Josh stein will win. The question is, does this affect up ballot . And i think potentially it does. And i know for a fact that the Trump Campaign Pain is and has been worried that it does because not just these comments that distract Donald Trump, he obviously make some weird comments from time to time as well but also this campaign has no money it has no ground game. It cant drive out their own voters. Theyre not all rowing in the same direction. And thats a real problem for trump. And ive heard this on the ground, not just for the past day or few weeks. Ive heard this months and months ago that they were worried about what would happen when the Robinson Comments came out. They were worried about what effect it might have if Donald Trump were to cut Mark Robinson loose and you can certainly understand why would trump wants to win. He cares about his own winning first and foremost, no who surprise. So thats where republicans have put themselves in and ultimately, yeah, this is a making of Donald Trump because he endorsed him. Donald trumps endorsement doesnt determine who the nominee is, but it sure helps end. This is another example, anderson and ill wrap up. Ill shut up here in a second. This is another example of republicans taking their own fists and saying stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself. We saw this in the pennsylvania governors race. We saw it in the maryland governors race. This cycle, last cycle, the cycle before these kinds of candidates sink republicans. Jim arent mature point earlier about the hypocrisy. If, you know, if he had been on some Porn Site foreigners incredibly popular in america i dont know anybody would really care that much. Its so contradictory. His stance on transgender issues. The taxis made and apparently interest on transgender people on this Porn Site. Its obviously seems a stark contrast. But i think when you are saying things in public that dont hold up in your private life. That is the kind of thing when youre running for office, comes back and it hurts you in a bad way. That is the place where he is right now. But remember, he was bad from North Carolina before this started this guy who wanted a total Abortion Ban, he said get them down to zero, is the guy who said he wanted to restrict Birth Control for women and girls. And this is a guy who said he wanted to unwind the Medicaid Expansion which affects hundreds of thousands of people in North Carolina who have Health Care because of this. So i think the Stein Campaign once people to focus on the fact that this is not the person you want to have giving the judgment or having the judgment to make decisions for any North Carolina family i mean, do you think its over for him . He was pointing out 1010 points down in the polls i would not want to be working on that campaign right now. The Trans Thing is, is i think the most jarring thing for me, right . Because the policies that he supports and the rhetoric he espouses puts these, this vulnerable community in danger, right . And so that is, i think the most joining point of all this. But democrats will seize on this. They already thought that they werent a strong position in North Carolina. North carolina to be clear, anderson is a purple state. It is a state with a lot of hbcus. And so they are investing in organizing in those spaces and this just helps they can appeal to conservative and republican voters who just think that this is going to be a bridge too far. Ive also never heard of anybody going to a Porn Site in order to make comments. I was unaware that there are Comment Sections doug, i want to play some of the republican Reaction Today on capitol hill. Lets listen pretty sad to go this far along and then the people who supported him, all the money that hes raised. And i think he needs to drop out today. I definitely want to read what the allegations are and the comments on it. I myself Cant Support Anyone if if that all turns out to be true for all the allegation is very concerning. My hope is that the Lieutenant Governor can reassure them people North Carolina, that the allegations are true. Obviously disappointing. Do you think he should resign, drop out of the race . I dont live in North Carolina, so its up to North Carolina. People from North Carolina i mean, it does not all but some congressional republicans starting to distance themselves. Do you imagine that . I imagine. Do you imagine that is going to increase absolutely. Richard hudson there, who you showed we went to college together. Ive known him for a long, long time. The outrage in the state predated this this just brings it all all further to bubble, and this is why its toxic. And republicans need to learn, stop nominating, stopped voting for these cartoon candidates. These Addams Family candidates, who sink your chances in november. This is just the latest most outrageous example. Doug heye. Thank you, everyone else stay with us. Well have more from the panel coming up the state of the president if a race, a slew of new polls dropped, including four for Pennsylvania State critical to both campaigns. Harry enten is going to walk us walk us through the latest polls. 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The event is being live streamed across Harris And Winfrey Social Media accounts will bring you some of it once harris takes the stage, this comes the same day this, new national poll from the New York times and Siena College has Harris And Trump tied at 47 a piece coincidentally, as we mentioned, the exact same number of days until the election. We also have four new polls on the state of the race in pennsylvania, a must win for both campaigns will have more on that in a moment. And a short time ago, the former president spoke at an event on fighting antisemitism. Thats what it was billed as. It was sponsored by republican Billionaire Donor Miriam adelson may remember last month when the president praised adolf sin, he said the civilian award he gave her an office the Medal Of Freedom was quote, actually much better than the medal of honor. The nations highest military decoration. Today, speaking before jewish americans about antisemitism, he said this 47 days from now, were going to defeat Kamala Harris. You have to defeat kamala more than any other people on earth israel, i believe has to defeat her. You know that i and ive never said this before. Im thinking miriam more than any people on earth, israel has to defeat her. I really believe that its disaster for israel im joined now by Washington Post Columnist Philip Bump and our senior data reporter, Harry Enten and back with us, eva mckend, Jamal Simmons and matt hours. So harry mentioned new polls out of pennsylvania where they said, yeah, we got a buffet, an assortment for you you know, Last Night we were talking about that quinnipiac university poll. I said that there was going to be more pennsylvania pauls. I delivered for for you. And what we see in those polling is sort of a range, right quinnipiac is the most friendly to Kamala Harris with a plus five. What the Bottom Line is, you look at all of these polls, what you see as anything from a tie and marris up to a li plus five, the average here is pretty good for Kamala Harris, write the number of those would be within the margin but then the. Margin of error thats why we show all of them. And thats why i take the aggregation because that of course gives you a better idea of where the race would be. And so you see that range. But the Bottom Line is if you take the average of all of them, which you see as essentially Kamala Harris up by two or three depending on how exactly you take the average and why is pennsylvania so important . Look, weve done a number of segments on Pennsylvania Pennsylvania pennsylvania, pennsylvania, and the Bottom Line is this if you win pennsylvania, your chance of winning the presidency is quite high. So for instance, for Kamala Harris, its 88 if she wins the state of pennsylvania, if Donald Trump wins the state of pennsylvania, its a 94 chance of winning this particular election. So the Bottom Line is pennsylvania, pennsylvania. Pennsylvania. If you win pennsylvania probably going on to win the White House. But i mean doesnt matter. The national issues apparently, neck and neck. I mean, look, there are a lot of people were saying earlier which shes gotta be ten points up nationally. If this is going to be one of the great questions of our time, which is whats going to be the gap between the Electoral College and the Popular Vote. The large belief generally out there is that Kamala Harris has to win the Popular Vote by at least two points in order to win in the Electoral College. However, there was a very interesting Analysis Today for my dear friend Nate Cohn at the New York times, which actually suggests that Kamala Harris is doing particularly well in those northern Battleground States better than you might think based upon the national vote. And these polls, i think kind of proved that because in pennsylvania, shes actually at least in the polls released today, at least matching her national numbers, if not exceeding them i mean, do you what do you think these polls i i think that they are still running scared is what im hearing from them. They dont want to get over overconfident here, but certainly it is a good sign in. It is an endorsement of the strategy that they are employing. I think any of us in the media are frustrated because we want to be able to question the Vice President. We want to be able to get a better understanding of her evolution on some of these key policy matters. But theyre running a very tight ship there, running a very disciplined Operation Everything is very strategic. They are meeting the voters theres where they need to be. And i think that they are getting the results that they want to get quickly listening to Vice President harriss interview with Oprah Winfrey, which is happening right now. And lets open the door. Lets open the door and invite everybody else in and everybody actually came organically again, ugly like this is the beauty of our country theres so much at stake in this election and ultimately the question before us is what kind of country do we want to live in . The beauty of a democracy, as long as we can hold onto it. The beauty of democracy is each of us has the power. Each of us has the power thats right to answer that question, right . Everybody on this Call And Beyond has the power but can i just start with this . Yes, please. I have to say this because in all of my private conversations, gayle and ive said this 100 and everybody is saying, you all have said, i know you have. It seems to us thats something happened to, you the moment Joe Biden, President Biden stepped aside and withdrew his candidacy . That a Veil Or Something dropped and you just stepped in looking at a speech like the week before, which was a great speech and then then thats sweet walk in in the know, we each have those moments in our lives where its time to step up, time to step up, step up in the moment you heard i mean, i really have been saying to people felt like avail dropped and you sort of stepped through that veil. Did did that actually did you feel like that . Ive felt a sense of responsibility to be honest with you and with that comes a sense of purpose. But i mean, were all here and you all are taking Time Out of your busy lives. Everyone here everyone on the screen because there really is so much at stake. You know, i have spent the majority of my career being concerned about the wellbeing of other people as ive said in my career as a prosecutor, i never looked at a victim or a witness and ask them, are you the republican or a democrat . The only . Thing i ever asked them as are you okay . Are you okay . I know when i heard that touched me and traveling this country and knowing what is at stake in terms of fundamental freedoms. Whats at stake in terms of fighting against hate in those those efforts to divide us and i do know that im in a position to do something about it. So i felt a great responsibility and the incredible power of the people, right . Who im not the only leader in this. Were all leaders in this. This is so much bigger than me its about who we are as americans and its about making clear what we stand for and what we stand for as it is about the ideals upon which we were founded, including the importance of freedom and the importance its of independence and the importance of dignity in and purpose. But it is also about what we stand for in terms of our values. I think of it, this boils down to values i just said values here. Yes. Does. I mean think about it, oprah the idea that someone suggesting that my opponent and suggests, which is that the measure of the strength of a leader is based on who you beat down. Come on the real measure of the strength of a leader is based on who you lift up and its, its important for ever since the debate, we feel for our fellow citizens in springfield, do you not think about the fellow citizens in springfield, ohio, the haitian families the non haitian families, everybody having to deal with this lie that has endangered the lives of haitian people at anybody who luxation everybody in america fills for that. And i also everybody in america left, right, middle, has concerns about immigration. And im told that justin justin, where are you . The audience justin. Hello, in audience. Madam vice. You live in michigan . Yes, maam. Dont you love sen. Hello. Matt whats your question . Its an immigration issue. Is when you become president , what would be your specific steps . Yeah, of course. Will be a specific steps to strengthening the border so its wonderful and important question i, you know, my background was as a prosecutor and i was also the elected Attorney General for two terms of a Border State so this is not a theoretical issue for me. This is something ive actually worked on. I have prosecuted transnational Criminal Organizations for the trafficking of guns, drugs, and Human Beings i take very seriously the importance of having a secure border and ensuring the safety of the american people are now, can be traced most recently back to the fact that when the united states congress, members of congress, including from the most conservative republicans came up with a Border Security Bill and heres what that Border Security Bill would have done. It would have put 1,500 more Border Agents at the border. Let me tell you those Border Agents are working around the clock. It would have just been about giving them some Support And Relief which is probably why the Border Agents actually endorsed the bill it would have allowed us to stem the flow of fentanyl. And im looking at people from all over the country here so i dont need to tell the folks who are watching this what fentanyl has done to families to kids in our country and the need to take seriously stemming the flow coming into our country and addressing that extraordinary and tragic issue in terms of its effect. The bill would have allowed us to have more resources to prosecute transnational Criminal Organizations and it would have been part of the solution and Donald Trump called up those folks and said dont put that bill on the floor for a vote. He blocked the building in iowa because he preferred a run on a problem instead of fixing a problem watching this jamal, you know, her very well, former Communications Director for for harris, an event like this is how i like, how important is this you think for her . Oh, its very important. She started doing these moderated conversations about a year. So after she was in the White House getting a 22 to 2022 middle 2022. Started doing these dead woman Keke Palmer at the essence festival. Some other ones as hes been continuing to do them for the last couple of years. And what happens if she gets in the rhythm of being able to have a conversation where youve lowered the pressure on some of these big speeches, but sometimes frankly dont always go as well as you might want, the lower the pressure on a big interview. But we have a conversation where you could see her personality come through and people finally welded that is think shes very comfortable in the space and i think youll see tonight that people will continue to think shes want a good job well, i just listening to hear here. She is continuing to thread the needle here on this immigration issue, talking about immigrants. In a compassionate matter, but also needling the former president for squashing that bipartisan Border Enforcement Bill so she has that issue. I would say down pat and therell be interesting to see how voters respond to that. If thats a sufficient answer for voters. But i think what was also important about this Event Tonight is they partnered with win, with black women. They of course are an organizing force in this country. They had that Zoom Call for weeks ago when it was announced at the Vice President would be the candidate more than 90,000 women tuned into that call the raised oneandahalf million dollars in just about three hours. And black women are just going to play such an important role in this election. So many democratic Way Mean have often said that they dont feel as though they are invested in when it comes to them being candidates will now the top of the ticket is a black woman and so for them to be a partner in this Event Tonight, i think is a really important strategic Choice Thing that struck me is when we went to that says that exchange, the first conversation was about the effect that individual people can have. And we were just talking about all these polls in pennsylvania show that its close and i think one of the questions one harris became the nominee is what she going to be able to close the gap that had grown between trump and biden. We saw that, yes, she was. And then the next question was, well, she going to be able to extend that gap and we havent seen that that has happened. We havent seen but shes taken a 56 point national leader in these state polls, as harry pointed out. And so that means that with seven weeks left, the key is getting people to vote and so when she makes those comments to that group of people, theyre in that room saying, hey, its up to you. The obvious point here is we need you to go vote and thats what it is. This is a Turnout Race. Its a Turnout Race because because these polls are close, its going to come down to who actually is coming out and casting a ballot over the course of the next earlyvoting period. And then on election day, and thats what that event is focused on is focused on making sure that they know you have to vote. This is incumbent upon you more than me at this point harry, this is harrys line of business here around the polls. But its interesting said something people keep expecting her to expand her lead in a way that i think this might not hold up in our modern context. That would mean Donald Trump would have to lose support and hes really been a 47, 48 candidate. I dont know that were ever going to see him dropped down to 45 i tend to doubt it. Look, weve had national elections in this country that had been decided by singledigits since 19 in hundred and 88, its the longest such stretch since weve had the Popular Vote being counted in the 1800s. But just talking about Kamala Harris has strengths as a candidate, right . You go back two months ago when she was became the presumptive democratic nominee, her net Favorability Ratings or something like 14 15 points. She has climbed all the way back and now if you take an average of pauls her net Favorability Rating is actually positive. Its because of events like tonight. The only other thing ill mention, you know, eva was mentioning black woman, one of the more interesting sort of nuggets that weve seen in the cross tabs. Weve seen in pennsylvania is Kamala Harris has certainly improved upon her standing with black voters overall versus what Joe Biden was doing earlier on in the year but she is still falling short of Bidens Benchmark in 2020. I think one of the big questions going forward is, can she actually reach that benchmark that biden said in 2020 . Because if she does, she will likely win this election that obviously Donald Trump would have loved to have had the support of Oprah Winfrey or Taylor Swift that did not happen happen. How important do you think events like this actually are whether its reaching out to people who maybe were on the fence are going to sit on the couch or does it change . Anybodys mind . About dealing with what we need to do, what Donald Trump will claim. Oprah winfrey endorsed him the year 2000. I dont know if you saw his campaign put out that letter that she had sent him back then said it would make a great team to run for office but look, of course, these are exciting moments that are meant to raise money generate attention but what i actually really took away from this then was where it was being held. It was held in farmington hills. This is a town in oakland county, michigan. Michigans a state i worked on in 2016 for the trumppence campaign. In fact, took Ivanka Trump to invent, not too far away from where they are tonight. And what it tells me based upon both the fact thats with Oprah Winfrey. If you look at that audience is predominantly made up of women, youd bring, you go to a place like oakland county. This is a wealthier suburb of detroit. They are trying to run up the score with suburban collegeeducated women. And at the end of the day, more than anything else, this is likely to come down to. Does Donald Trump is Donald Trump able to improve or does he lose compared to 2020 . Because numbers with educated, collegeeducated women, or does he is he able to actually outgrow that pace of loss by gaining black and hispanic men and thats likely what this campaign is going to come down to at the end of the day, especially in those Rust Belt states, saying, were going to continue to monitor this injury for any comments about our cnn exclusive on North Carolina republican gubernatorial candidate Mark Robinson . We have next back to the state of the race of so many entrepreneurs this Election Stay with cnn with more reporters on the ground. And the best political team in the business follow the candidates, follow the voters, follow the facts, follow. Cnn whats the greatest invention of all time, new handsfree skechers, slipins. You just slip in there on its like they have an invisible builtin shoehorn. Your foot . 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We want to rejoin Vice President harris is ongoing Campaign Appearance in michigan with Oprah Winfrey sly, blow up inflation and invite a recession by the middle of next year. So when you think about the cost of living, my approach is about lifting you up his would be about actually weakening our economy. And i feel very strongly when an individual, when a small business, when a family, when the middleclass is strong, america is strong. Amen to that thank you, shelby thank you, rachel and gallic kicked off the fighting for reproductive Freedom Bus Tour to support the fundamental right for women to make decisions about our own bodies. And here is a short tape on that Nobody Thought was possible. I got rid of roe v. Wade after roe v. Wade was overturned, tennessee for a banned immediately and all abortion with no exceptions. Abortion bans are not for life. They are pro, poverty for many he spent over two years since a five to four ruling by the Supreme Court ended roe versus wade, the Landmark Case that provided nearly 50 years of Abortion Rights across the united states since then and abortions have been banned in over a dozen states. Many women and doctors say the limit on reproductive rights have forced them into unimagined raj just check back in with this in a bit and i mean, an event like its so interesting how campaigns have changed now and evolved. I mean, from i mean, Donald Trump has sort of reset the bar for you, dont have to answer the question you were asked. You can just answer the question that you can just make this statement you want to make, and its something i think the Harriswalz Campaign has picked up on as well and sort of has gone along with this kind new dynamic and certainly like the Oprah Effect on an event like this, it will land i was her the Candidate Or Candidate harris to be comfortable to your earlier point. And to just sort of have this dialogue in a way thats you know, for fans of oprah, for people are curious about Kamala Harris. I mean, its, its obvious why she would want to do an event like yeah, you know, its changed campaigns on this even more is Social Media. Because now we found is 50 of people are getting their news from scrolling on their phones with their thumb, and in 25 of them are getting news, not just from scrolling it, but because somebody is tagged them, theyve got It Dm to them in some fashion. So they may not even be in the algorithm. So part of the trick of the campaign in the office is do something thats going to be viral. Its going to make people pay attention to it. We didnt event when i was in the White House and the Vice President with Priyanka Chopra jonas. We did the event. It was great. I got a lot of complaints from some people about doing the event. Some of the older democrats, why are you doing this . Its not serious. Shes the Vice President that was the number one event on political event on instagram that day was the Priyanka Chopra jonas, you feel because we saw Donald Trump. Do a because theyre were doing more sort of Town Hallstyle things he did was said, Sarah Huckabee sanders with tulsi gabbard, recently as well. Obviously, not quite the same Production Values has when oprah is doing something but its, its an effort to try to i think probably rein in Donald Trump A Little Bit and not have him meanders much, although certainly the huckabee event, he would meander a Lot Huckabee sanders was both his Press Secretary and is sitting governor. So hopefully she if anyone, is going to be able to do that, i think to jamals point, this is an era in which not only are people getting their news through Social Media and through these fragmented channels for newspaper, im sitting on a Cable News to im cognizant world. But that said it is also a reality that a lot of people sort of isolated in their own spheres of conversation, right . Particularly on the right, i think it is, it is a more dramatic problem on the right. I think when you have trump doing these things and doing these odd little podcasts and things like that part of it is about him being im comfortable in that space. Part of it is to the point i was making earlier that its about engaging people and turning people out to vote. That is about ensuring that his folks are motivated and energized in the same way that were seeing Kamala Harris do that tonight. I think thats a central issue. And quite frankly, the people, if you are the Harris Campaign and youre trying to get your voters to come out to vote in november, it is better to do something and its gonna go viral on Social Media with Oprah Winfrey than it is to have a piece in the washington post, no offense to the washington. Thanks, everyone. Next we have Breaking News from kentucky where a judge has been shot to death in his chambers. Authorities say a preliminary investigation shows that a sheriff may have killed him. A Press Conference just wrapped up details ahead whole story. How does a Bernie Bro become a protrump, proputin social Media Superstar . Maga communist, you know, people watching cnn can i say youre crazy . 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I wish i couldve helped her, you know, because she was suffering. And we had no idea. We trusted them to take care of her, you know . And they just let her die because because of from stupid Abortion Ban they treated her like she was just another number. They didnt care for her is if you know, she was their daughter or their, granddaughter yeah. Shes not here. She will never come back yeah andrivka, what do you want to say i want to stay that it is very disheartening that my sister was allowed to suffer for 20 hours she. Suffered. It was nothing that we could do to help her. We trust it. They Health Care professionals to do their job and save her, but they failed her well, i think the most powerful thing that youve said here, ms jeanette, is that your daughter is not a statistic she had a life she sisters, loved by her family, loved just a statistic and, we are happy to speak her Name Tonight in in this room talking about what this country needs in terms of reproductive rights and freedom. What do you want to say . Madam Vice President im, just so sorry courage that you all have shown is extraordinary because also you just learned about how it is that she died and they just recently learned how yeah. And me that the word over and over again in her mind is preventable preventable that word keeps coming to her and the story is a story that is sadly not the only story of what has been happening since these bans have taken place. And im you know so just to step back in terms of how we got here the former president chose three members of the united states Supreme Court with the intention that they would overturn the protections of roe v. Wade and they did is he intended and in state after state, including yours . These Abortion Bans have been passed that criminalized Health Care providers in a couple of states, prison for Life Oprah Prison for life in a couple of states for a Doctor Or Nurse who provides Health Care and so it seems very apparent when even when the Mothers Life is in danger. Heres the problem with that. Heres the problem with that issue on Deaths Door before you actually decide to give her help literally a doctor or a nurse has to say she might die at any minute. Better give her now care because otherwise i might go to prison for life in some cases think about what were doing in terms of saying that certain people who are in these State Houses and then starting with the former president united states, think theyre in a better position than a doctor or a nurse . To determine when their patient needs medical care. This literally in an Amber Story highlights the fact that among everything that is wrong with these bands and what has happened in terms of the overturning of roe v. Wade. Its a Health Care crisis its a Health Care crisis that affects the patient and the profession. And going back to Hadleys Story and hadley, youve been so remarkable can telling your story and being so strong in the way you do it in both of these stories really, i mean, the courage for it out of pain Vice President Kamala Harris speaking with Oprah Winfrey at this live stream event, drama, we were talking about the, you know, the changing nature of a campaign. I mean, something like this is, its a way for Kamala Harris to have extended conversations without going through a formal interview where shes going to be