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Im Dana Bash reporting today from los angeles. Lets go behind the headlines and inside politics 47 days, less than seven weeks, 1,100 hundred and 16 hours. This race could not possibly be any closer lets start with pennsylvania. There had been four new polls of the Keystone State released in the past 24 hours. And when you average them all together and a Cnn Poll of polls, Kamala Harris holds a slim lead, but effectively, its ty its a similar situation in wisconsin. Harris holds a Onepoint Lead in to new clear that both campaigns now have multiple paths to 270. And its clear that this race is anyones to take as early voting begins, 67 Million people watched the debate last week. Most say it was a resounding win for harris. And yet the numbers and the Battleground States that will decide the election have barely budged im joined now by two fantastic reporters and friends. Puck news is Peter Hamby and the Washington Post may rest also to former Cnn Colleagues and Campaign Trail buddies from 2008, the mccain campaign barbakh, Mitt Romney we can go On And on, but lets talk about 20 24 maeve. Whats your overall takeaway from what were seeing right now . Its just being i was out with with harris last week and it just feels so tight out there. I mean, its fascinating that those pennsylvania polls show so her maybe with a little bit of an edge, but you still get the sense that there are so many people that were impressed by the debate, but still feel like they dont know enough about her. There are so many voters that havent been tuned in the way that we have and then theres sort of a lot of skeptics this ism about just what this is all going to look like. You know, theres a lot of people there are feeling not ready for the trump chaos. Once again, but arent sure if they know enough about harris to really dig in. So i mean, i think were just at this formative time where theyre trying to figure out the economic message judge, that hits particularly with those male voters that they really need to bring over to their side and shes still trying out a lot of different things yeah. And on the economy, lets dig into that. Peter. Just looking at the quinnipiac poll, better job handling the economy, Pennsylvania Trump has at two twopoint advantage. Michigan trump has a twopoint advantage. His Grandson Trump has a fourpoint advantage. We should say advantage, but clearly within the margin of error and then just looking separately at a New York times poll, this is about Pennsylvania Trump 51, harris, 47. Now its definitely very, very tight on the economy. It is quite a different picture than when Joe Biden was running on the ticket, particularly on the economy. Joe biden was losing that Economy Number in some polls by 15 points on all the attribute questions and theres probably has a lot to do with how voters proceeded to Joe Biden and his age Kamala Harris has closed the gap in a lot of ways. If im hurt and im democrats, i liked that Economy Number on that question. Who do you trust her on the economy . More republicans have always had a Builtin Advantage there. You just mentioned Mitt Romney, right . Like they are perceived as being Business Guys and people who were going to be better on taxes. Its just sort of built into the republican brand that they went on the economy democrats win president ial elections when they get that number close to parity. So biden got 50, 50 against trump in 2020 on that economy question, obama in 2012. I think he came within four points of rodney. Again, the business guy. So harris has to like that number all of the sub questions and the attribute numbers, generally speaking, i think are good for harris and all these topline numbers, all these polls that came out today, great is made mentioned shes probably winning in these states, but what the reality is under the hood is that its just very, very close. Your lead tighter than im sorry, Pickles Help and Jar Potter than a Laredo Parking LotDana Bash doing dan rather. Thats right. And thats the only thing you need to know about this race and its boring to viewers maybe, but it is just close no matter. No, i think it would it by two or sorry. You said a boring because because you dont know. But it just shows how any less little thing could potentially move the needle. Maybe you have been spending a lot of time out. I mean, you both have out in the realworld, as i say particularly in pennsylvania. I mean, how many times have we spent time in those philadelphia suburbs talking to those swing voters, the suburban women in particular, trying to figure out whats going to move them when Thing Kind of obsessed with and i want to know what youre hearing is the fact that on the one hand, we know from republicans who ran the Trump Campaign in 2016 that it was about a feeling and less about like a 17point Plan that clinton would put out there and yet, voter after voter after voter will say, i just want to hear more about what her policy is on the economy. Do they really want to know about the policy . Or is there something else going on there . I feel like, you do right now here so much kind of coded language where Youll Talk to voters than we always no, that like Women Voters are often harder on women candidates than they are on male candidates. But being out in the philly suburbs, like you hear things all the time that are like you know, i just dont know enough about her yet or i just dont know if she would be strong enough to go up against world leaders. I mean, trump seems like he would be really strong and i think the debate helped in that sense for them to kind of Show People that she could punch hard. But there still are a lot of those, particularly those suburban Women Voters that maybe arent sure they want to deal with all the Trump Stuff again, but arent quite sure about her yet. And its really theres a lot of like Latent Sexism in america and you hear sometimes i think its unconscious because its just someone that we havent, we havent seen a woman in that job yet. And so a lot of times people will say things like well, im ready to vote for a woman. But like im not sure, the rest of the country is ready for that. And all of trumps comments its about how harris would be manipulated like a play toy. All play into that. But that is one of the reasons i think that theyre having her talk a good amount about Foreign Policy in particular because they think that that thats one of their subject areas, even though thats not what people generally vote on, it makes her strong. Its the commander yet five. And then just the Flip Side we dont really know what Donald Trump will do. And we have a broad tax plan. We have a concept of a plan on Health Care what hes been saying since 2016. So there isnt equity here. Right. Which, you know, and then you could say, well, Thats Life and life isnt fair. Its funny. The polls, again in these subquestions one of them is like how much, how much do you think you know about what trump will do . You know Kamala Harris only gets like 60 there and like trump gets 89, 90 . People dont know what trumps going to do doesnt know what trumps good. Thats a good tomorrow. Thats a good example of of voters telling Pollsters Something that they think they should say. I think i also want to talk about White Men. White men are also really important in this were going to talk about that in the next block. A lot, right . Dont worry, White Men are going to get the first time in History Mr. Go anywhere because i want to turn to Donald Trump. He is in washington dc today. He is going to speak tonight at an event about fighting antisemitism. Last night, he held a big rally in New York where he laid out some of his potential future travel plans. Cnns Steve Contorno is covering the former president s Campaign Steve okay. We lost steve. Sorry about that. I will fill you in on what we think that he is going to do. And when i say he, im talking about Donald Trump he said Last Night that he might go to aurora colorado. He might go to springfield ohio. I will tell you that i was communicating with the mayor of springfield this morning who is by the way, i should say, is a not so nonpartisan role. He personally is a republican he is still very concerned about the notion of either candidate coming. He said it would be very difficult to have either candidate visit our community, right now. I mean trump has a habit of going to these hot zones when he feels like he can gain an advantage when the Train Derailment happened, then hes palestine. Good example. That was not in the heat of the final seven weeks of an election. It was not against the backdrop of a racially inflammatory Touri Story people from all over the country trumps supporters are going to springfield to protest i mean, i dont know what else to say about this other than trump doesnt care about any of those factors. He will go if he thinks he could sees an advantage there, but i will say on this issue, yeah. Kamala harris probably doesnt want to be talking about immigration all the time. The Trump Campaign thinks its healthy to talk good for them to be talking about immigration. Theyre on offense i do think this bleeds into the chaos. Yeah. Problem for trump, like trump lost that debate. Polls show it. New york times Poll Today showed it. People didnt like but they saw. And so while the Trump Campaign thinks that theyre on offense by talking about springfield, by the way, this isnt undocumented border crossings legal. Haitian folks who are being resettled in this town it does bleed into the Chaos Stuff because people dont like about real risk of him going too far. Yeah reminding everyone of that really divisive when i say immigration, i put my just real quick. I want to mention something that happened Last Night, which is in response to what Sarah Huckabee Sanders said to Donald Trump about the fact that a woman, Pamela Harris in particular doesnt have humility because she doesnt have her own kids to keep her humble at home. A doug emhoff, Kamala Harris is husband reacted to that. I just want to quickly listen to what he said somehow kamalas quote, a little biological children that she doesnt have anything in her life to keep her humble as if keeping women humble, whether you have children or not, is something we should strive for women is country will never humble themselves before Donald Trump i just think this issue is such a loser for republicans you know, its surprising that huckabee sanders, like a savios. She is went in that directiOn And i think this is an example of doug speaking up about this. We probably wont hear from harris for a bit. Shes avoiding those kinds of attacks and they can think thats the best strategy. Yeah. Okay. Dont go anywhere because we will finally talk about that time coming up working the white dude vote. Can tim Walz Chip away at Donald Trumps lead the entire race could depend on it. 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Saturday, October 5thOn Cnn kamala, harris is turning to her Running Mate, Tim Walz, hoping he is the secret weapon who can chip away at Donald Trumps support from men. Cnns Jeff Zeleny takes a closer look. Cracks in the Glass Ceiling Arent enough. We need to make sure that that Glass Ceiling has shattered and Kamala Harris, stepson Tim Walz is hard at work on one of his most important assignments. You thought . Kamala harris can Take Care of herself . Our job is to do the blocking and tackling cover her back he and his Running Mate rarely discussed gender, yet to Gender Gap may help decide the election. Strong support from women has put Kamala Harris within reach of defeating Donald Trump her campaign is racing to win over another critical set of voters, men, itll be phenomenal to have the first female president. And thats exciting also Donald Trump is a strong president. You know . He gets things done. Anthony hernandez at 36yearold North Carolina Voter is among those at the center of an intense Tug Of War is ultimate decision holds clues for november. Or are you undecided undecided. Yeah, i didnt know. Comme la so well spoken. You know, that was a change from biden the Trump Campaign is working to widen its advantage with male voters overall, particularly young men with the former president deploying old School Muscle a far different approach to chip away at trumps edge with walz speaking directly to husbands and fathers. Do you want j. D. Vance deciding about your wife and Daughters Health . His frequent were tort on abortion rights, mind your own Damn Business struck a chord with tobi pearce, who saw Walz Tuesday Night in asheville. If none of your Damn Business is my model now its a wonderful way to talk about the whole abortion every productive rights at a rainsoaked rally, Alex Vigil and Kevin Miller said they believe Trump Exhaustion could help democrats make inroads with Men And Women alike, seeing a lot less trump flags in our parking lot, see a lot more of my staff after me for trump a little more excited or a little pushing trump away. Im hoping that its going to be a surprise will be a lot more men than we think this tshirt was a gift to bruce sergeant from his daughter after trump was first elected, he knows hes in the minority when it comes to how many men vote, were going to rely on a lot of the women, cherry now, but men lets need you to stand behind those women and coming out with them. Its an open question. Just how many men will do that, even those here like stanley, benedict, not fully enamored with Trump Plan to vote for him. Hes got a big ego and sometimes its a little too big to this horror a lot, but i support them because himself while the outcome of the trumpharris dual may turn on the Gender Gap or the balance of who Men And Women support in this election, gender itself is far less a part of the discussion. Calm layers isnt talking about the historic nature of this. You just put your Nose Dive and it does the work that Gender Gap will be one of the central challenges for both sides in the final stretch of this campaign, dana, a new poll out this morning from the New York times makes that point specifically, harris down some 14 points among men, trump down 12 points among women. That could make the difference as both sides tried to claw back from support from the respective sides dana Jeff Zeleny. Thank you so much for that. Peter. And maybe are back here at peter. I want to go to something that you wrote this week on this very issue called the Gen Z Bro vote. So were even, were going specifically to the younger men. Can anyone name a democrat who can go into the Media Spaces where trump is popular. The nelke boys, theo van, joe rogan, and make the case for harris. Bernie sanders has done several of them, but it hasnt moved the needle. Walz himself could appear on new heights. One of our favorites in my house on with the kelce brothers or pardon my take . To talk football. But again, i dont see how that changes the Gen Z Bro vote in a meaningful Brock Obama twice, they could all count on young man, even if theyre losing older men that advantages is now completely gone a lot of it, i mean, we can get into why this is happening. Some of it is culture, some of it is trumps macho brand. A lot of its the economy. So Camila Harris is running on the economic issues. Of course but abortion that favors women, young men named, the economy is your top issue. Young women name abortion. Thats their top issue. Young men are on college campuses. Theyre enrolled in colleges at lower rates than they were a few years ago. Theyre a Labor Force compared to women than they were a few years ago. And so if youre a young person against all of the economic headwinds that currently exist in our society. Youre trying to get access to the economy, get a job, get alone, buy a car, its harder. Thats true for all young people. But young men in particular feel that and then on top trump, he plays golf with bryce into shampoo. He goes on theo von, he talks about zillions and democrats. Im sorry, like they havent had a Guy Down candidate in a while and like with all due respect its in walls like Tim Walz appeals to a lot of men. He also appeals to that guy, bruce. Yeah. Just pack is wearing a future is female shirt. Yeah. Like that guy in madison, wisconsin is already going to vote democrat. Im sorry, i thought you reached the young man. Yeah. I think the woke which is a term that can encompass a lot of things is also a big part of this team, harris or at least the forces that want her to win or not totally giving up, especially since they have a lot of money. Listen to what the group white dudes for harris is doing in a new ad this isnt about picking teams. Its about whos got a plan thats going to make life better for me and my family ive been doing my own research and decided to check out Kamala Harris and Tim Walz. And before you jump down my throat, they were actually talking to guys like guts no lectures, no bs just real solutions to protect her freedoms and help us Take Care of the people who matter and may this is a big ad, buy 10 Million on digital platforms and pennsylvania and michigan and wisconsin. Yeah, and its, you know, its so centered on all of those economic issues because of course, what has always appealed to younger men and younger men of color. A lot of whom have talk to you in georgia, is that sort of aspirational Wealth Idea that the trump understands business and that he would help them build, build their own wealth. And by, buy homes, et cetera. And so shes really, shes using talking a lot about housing policy, what shes doing a burn down the bills. But i just will have to say that, you know, it was really striking at her rallies, like just looking out into that crowd and seeing how female it is. I was actually at all of her rallies last week going to find men to talk to you. And it was hard a couple of places hunting like because there was a lot of those guys that are like in the future as female tshirt that were brought there by either one fives and but it wasnt the same thing as like any obama campaign, for example, where you had sort of like the curious onlookers that were last in the room, kind of checking her out. There is a feeling of sort of right now, so much excitement, but a lot of preaching to the converted and Donald Trump is doing the same thing as well. But i do think that this is a big challenge for her in real quick. I also, White Men are not a Monolith A white suburban guy outside of philly might care about crime. A reason Kamala Harris is struggling in pennsylvania. Shes doing worse among white College Educated Men in the suburbs than biden did in 2020, wisconsin. More like the future is female guy, like White Men, White People who are went to college and wisconsin give democrats like North Korea Level margins and madison like there are different kinds of voters in these different states which justice instead up to the back of the top of the show. We need to look under these top lines. The race is very close and all these states are very different. I learned so much from you. 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Joining me now is the president thats up the teamsters, Sean Obrien. Thank you so much for being here i want to go back to the announcement. You said neither major candidate was able to make serious commitments to our union to ensure the interests of working people are always put before Big Business You met with Vice President harris this week on tuesday. What commitments were you looking for from her that she did not provide . Well, one biggest commitment is we want our members a commitment that the government will not interfere or try and impede a right to strike in any collective bargaining situations. Brynn, in 2022, real Railroad Workers were forced into a contract and they were not happy about it. So under the railway labor act, we want to make certain moving forward that those commitments are met. We asked about people that are currently in the administration have been good working with us. We couldnt get commitments on that either. So Donald Trump, when he came in, he couldnt commit to veto a national righttowork. So there are a lot of issues that are important to our members that are important to our organization as an international, that we couldnt get commitments on. We got couldnt get commitments on the pro act from President Trump and then couldnt. So those are the important issues that are important to us just real quick, you mentioned that the Rail Strike and the fact that the biden administration got involved maybe this is hard to answer, but if Joe Biden were still at the top of the ticket, do you think the nonendorsement would still be the case . Well, would you have endorsed him . Look, i mean, theres no running from the fact that Job Biden was the most prounion president to pass legislation to fix 300 pension funds. And im truly appreciative of it. And that that was a problem that was created by legislation in 1980 that put tremendous strain on these pension funds. So its a problem that we create. They created and they finally fixed. And were grateful for, but, you know, Joe Biden wasnt pulling over well, either. Remember Joe Biden was in the race and we polled and it was pulling about 34 with our members got it. All right. I want to ask you about something that New YorkCongresswoman Alexandria Ocasiocortez pointed out and that is that the teamsters and other Labor Organizations rely on democrats to achieve key Policy Goals listen to this and at the end of the day, we know that when the teamsters are in trouble, who did they call them when we need to make sure that teamsters pensions are bailed out and we need to make sure that that there they have a fair shake at, negotiate getting table with real it was Sean Obrien calling democrats out for health. So just building on that, you mentioned a little bit of this, but ill just give you give even more details to our viewers know republicans in the senate supported the bill that bailed out approximately 600,000 pensions for the teamsters Kamala Harris cast the tiebreaking vote. No republicans currently support the pro act. If democrats are the ones that consistently, not just support your legislative priorities, but pass them into law. Why are you refusing to endorse and give her the really key boots on the Ground Grassroots in it 5050 race. Well, i just may want to clean up a couple of things that are inconsistent with the congresswoman stated that the president united states, along with the former secretary of labor, was calling the teamsters for help to try and settle it because they were afraid that if a real strike happened that it would throw the country into a recession. We were not calling on the administration. We were calling them administration to stay out of it and ive quoted this many times that my neighbor that i grew up in with you familiar with in boston, if two people having a disagreement, you have nothing to do with that. You keep on walking so thats statements and consistent now, she has to remember that there is a clear divide, especially in teamster members, between the democrats and the republicans. And instead of trying to pick a fight with Labor Leaders who listened to them members and embrace their members opinions she should maybe get into her district where it voted far republican Farright Republican. It maybe find out what the problem is when i have a problem and a worksite and there is criticism i get right in there and find out what do you mean vote is Farright Republican cheat in our polling democrat. And ill pull you mean among teamster in our polling, New York, her district voted overwhelmingly republican to support former President Trump. So she may, she may want to focus on her job instead of mine. I want to ask you a little bit more about that polling if it is accurate, it would mean that almost 60 of your members do prefer former President Trump over Vice President harris. But i just want to give a small sample of Donald Trumps record on uniounion issues. He appointed supreme court justices that were part of major decisions going against unions. He appoints the nlrb people who consistently rule against labor. He visited a nonunion Auto Plant while the uaw was striking and encouraged Union Members to boycott their dues. And youve of course remember last month when he was on with Elon Musk praising musk for firing striking workers. You called him you call that economic terrorism and you do have i understand that there is some split, but you do have people like James Curbeam who was the head of the teamsters black caucus saying that what you have done is chosen not to stand up to a bully and an antiunion candidate and not endorsing Kamala Harris . Yes. A James Curbeam hes re represents a certain group thats not affiliated directly with the Teamsters Union and, you know, look, i criticized President Trump all criticize anybody that attacks labor across his Picket Lines or whatever else. And this was not an endorsement for the republican party. This is a Wakeup Call that the system is broken if far its far too long that the democratic party, and im a democrat has just got there a way we need to hold them accountable. But this is an opportunity as well for both parties to take a hard look. The democrats refocus and say somethings wrong. Weve got to recapture american workers. What do we need to do . And this is an opportunity for republicans who claim they want to be the word Working Party for american workers to prove that they can do that by supporting The Pro Act And Passing the pro act and helped develop a pro act. Our goal in this whole thing is to work by partisan and get things done for working people. And look as far as Schoolyard Bullies go my room. My record proven with a 227 strikes since my Administration Ration with one, a historic contract, largest collective Bargaining Agreement because of our members. And were going to continue to do that. People can call names. Thats whats wrong with this whole process. People get so personal instead of trying to fix a problem and find some collaboration to effectuate some change thats needed in this country. Sean obrien, president of the teamsters. Thank you so much for being here. I appreciate it. Thank you very much and up next a Famous Philosopher once said, use what you have to run toward your best, that philosopher is of course, Oprah Winfrey. And tonight Kamala Harris hopes she brings her best when they reunite for a Campaign Event in a crucial state, were going to discuss after a quick break the whole story how does a Bernie Bro become a Protrump Proputin social Media Superstar . Maga communist, you know, people watching cnn are going to say, youre crazy. The whole story with Anderson Cooper sunday at 8 00 On Cnn everyone. Our mission is to provide complete balanced nutrition. Or strengthened energy ensure with 27 vitamins and minerals nutrients for immune health, and ensure complete with 30 grams of protein i have dry eye, tired, itching burning my symptoms got worse over time. 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And in collaboration with a group known as wynne with black women, while a source tells cnn that the Harris Campaign has hired an Inter TainmentSurrogates Outreach Manager that is a very specific job to help with coordinating celebrity engagements. Here to discuss is Jordan Brown, founder of the consulting firm, one blue hill, and a veteran of the obama campaigns where he helped engage celebrity surrogates. So thats not you. Youre not getting that job. Im not. Yeah. Thatll be somebody whos about 21yearsold a technical genius, okay. Well, you arent you those things know, lets talk about just i guess i want to start with oprah and i do think that you can disagree with me. I mean, yes, shes obviously a huge celebrity, but when it comes to the oprah effect, its much more than that she is in many ways, i think the moral conscience of the country. I mean, i know that might sound like an exaggeration, but there are tens of millions of people who she got through Hard Times in their lives. They went on these journeys with her on the Book Club or losing weight. And i was in the room for that speech and i thought it was the best speech of the conventiOn And she was making the point that she said, Only In America could Oprah Winfrey exist, which i thought was really powerful. And so she expressed real gratitude for this country. But she also said, im worried its slipping away. And do we want to be the kind of country where an Incest Survivor whose 11yearsold is forced to give birth watching a teddy bear. I dont want to live in that country. Its interesting because when you hear my way of life is slipping away, its very different Context And Connotation when youre hearing it from the other side of the aisle . Absolutely. Yeah. I think its, you know, fear of outsiders on the other side, on this side, its, its, you know, weve worked so hard to expand and rights. And lets keep expanding instead of contracting so Celebrity Coordinator okay. So im just going to throw a dose of skepticism and big question is it that really necessary . Is it just because there are so many that was that they need to figure out where to deploy them explained since you kind of did that job . Yes. So this is the fifth general Election Campaign ive worked on from la, and i think whats really changed is social media. So you used to have just a big stars that would go to rallies or go to Battle Ground states. And now you have hundreds of Digital Creators who have smaller audiences, but they can communicate with them and much more interesting ways that are more immediate and infusing messaging. So youre seeing both the Trump Campaign and the Harris Campaign . Making candidate time available, which is a precious resource to these Digital Creators. So in my mind, the power of the Digital Creators has now eclipsed sort of the traditional hollywood stars, at least for the purposes of reaching voters with specific messaging that could move them except maybe Taylor Swift i mean, she and obrien. Thank are the two that i really in A League Of Their Own . Yeah what are your thoughts on the i hate Taylor Swift of it all from Donald Trump and how this is getting into his head. And more importantly, since you have worked on so many campaigns and youve seen the effect. And in many cases, the nonaffected of celebrities of the Taylor Swift, hes so easy to read and i think we saw that with Vice President harris in the debate hes so jealous. He wanted, you know, the biggest star in that way. He cares about fame more than anything. He wanted that endorsement. And so i think what was genius about what taylor did is she didnt she said who shes voting for, and then shes a do your own research. What matters to you registered to vote and figure out who youre going to vote for it. But do you think iting to have more of an effect than your average celebrity yeah. Yeah. Because i think, you know, everything has an effect because its such an insane system. What the electoral college. And we are a country of 300 something million people and really its true there are a couple of hundred thousand people on these five or six states that decide our fate and theyre the most heavily targeted people in the history of politics and Elon Musk is Spending Hundreds of millions of dollars on them. Digital creators are targeting them through both sides, Super Pacs so Taylor Swift registering a few Tens Of Thousands of new voters in those states. Absolutely Jordan Brown thank you so much. It was great to talk to you. Thanks for having me to be here in la coming up. No gravity, no problem. Well tell you how astronauts. Yes astronauts trapped in space are actually going to cast their ballots. 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So were excited about that opportunity its a very important duty that we have as citizens in looking forward to being able to vote from space, which is pretty cool ill say Cnns Kristin Fisher joins me now, how is that actually going to happen, kristen also, dana, first, you have to make it legal to vote for space and nasa actually did that back in in 1997. Nasa astronaut David Wolfe became the First American to vote from space in 97. And he actually did it a board, the russian mir space station. Wow, places. Its now defunct. So after they did that, multiple Nasa Astronauts have since voted for space. Butch and sunny will be next. And now youve got they get to the technical side of things, right . Like technically, how do you vote from space . Well, it starts with a good old fashioned encrypted word document. Butch and sunny will input there selections for who they want to be the next President Of The United States they will then upload that encrypted document to the computers on the international space station. They will then take that ballot like all other electronic data from the space station, Beam It to a nasa satellite, and then an antenna at nasa white Sands Ground Terminal will receive it. They will then send it to Nasa Mission control in houston, texas, and Mission Control will get it to the Harris County clerk, which will then submit their ballots on earth 200 miles below butch and sunny. Dana unbelievable Harris County, of course, in houston, texas that is a terrific, terrific nugget, an extra fec story, kristen, thank you so much for bringing it to us. 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