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Inside politics, we live in dangerous times that chilling assessment from the Secret Service after a second Assassination Attempt on Donald Trumps life. And just 65 days will bring you the latest on the investigation and breaking details from the suspects first quarter parents championed moments ago plus Jd Vance is still defending baseless and racist conspiracies about haitian immigrants eating pets. The Vp Candidate told me he is willing to quote create stories for Media Attention and courting the teamsters, Kamala Harris has a high highstakes meeting today with leadership over union that usually backs democrats, but its president spoke at the republican you can convention this summer. So who will get their coveted endorsement if anyone im dana bash. Lets go behind the headlines and Inside Politics cnn Breaking News we do start with the Breaking News. The suspect in the apparent Assassination Attempt of Donald Trump, where he just charged in Court 58yearold Ryan ralph was arrested yesterday after fleeing the scene at Trumps Golf Resort in West Palm im beach, florida. The former president was about to put on the fifth hole when gunshots rang out. Those shots were from Secret Service agents who spotted a Rifle Barrel peaking through the fence an opened fire on a Suspect Hiding in the bushes. Trump was about 300 to 500 yards away. The suspect had an Ak 47 Style Rifle with a scope, making a couple hundred yards, not far at all. A witness on the scene told police they saw someone run from those bushes and flee in a black nice san, which helps officials find and ultimately Florida Today and sources tell cnn he is expected to meet with Donald Trump. I want to get straight to cnns paula reid, who is outside the courthouse paula, what just happened in court down to the court, just unsealed Charging Documents in this case, and these reveal the details from investigators, the ones that prosecutors used to present probable cause to support the charges that Ryan Wisely Route is now facing. Now, just moments ago, he was in this court in front on of a judge for his initial appearance in this case. Now there are no cameras in federal court. Of course, but our colleagues inside report that he was shackled, both his arms and his legs. He was wearing dark prison scrubs. And he said yes, a few times, nodded his head to the judge but this was the first time that he actually learn the charges that he is currently facing two counts, one possession of a firearm by a convicted felon, and also receipt of a firearm with an obliterated Serial Number we do expect that additional charges will be filed in this case. This investigation is barely 24 hours old, but the charges, if they are added, they may not be what people expect, at least one State Level Prosecutor said it may be difficult to charge him with a crime in relation to trump because of the distance between him and the former president on the Golf Course, they might be more successful if they charge him with some sort of crime related to pointing his gun at the secret Service Officer now, the next time you will be in court will be a week from now for Detention Hearing and data. We expect there the prosecutors will continue to argue that ralph should remain detained ahead of a possible trial. They argue that not only is he a flight risk, they also say hes of course, a danger to the community. And then on september 30, he will be arraigned where he will have an opportunity you do again, here are these charges are that have been filed against him and enter a plea of not guilty or potentially even guilty. Dana. Okay. Paula, thank you. So much for that. Appreciate it. I want to go now to cnns kristen holmes, who is also in florida, as well as cnns John Miller John miller, i want to start with you and just to pick up on where Paula Left off on the charges against Ryan Ralph and the notion that perhaps it will be hard to charge him with an apparent or with an Assassination Attempt explain that. And because just to me who doesnt know all the details of federal law or the law thats sort of applicable here. It seems like if its a former President And Candidate for president and this guy is on the Golf Course trying to aim at him. What else is it . So weve got two things going here. One, we just learned from paula, which is weve got holding charges, is what the feds would kind of describe these as. And there are good charges if youre a prosecutor the possession of a firearm by a convicted felon. Thats a charge where people often can get sentenced to five years in prison and you can go up from there. The possession of a firearm within obliterated Serial Number and thats key because if youre the person providing a gun to a convicted felon not only is he committing a crime by having it, youre committing a crime by knowingly transmitting that to him. So that Serial Number was probably scratched off to protect the person who supplied it. There there may be another person in this case, but that will get him held. The Detention Memo will list all of the reasons they think hes a danger that he was there in the bushes with a rifle as the president was approaching, fled from Secret Service agents but this gives them time and the time is to the heart of your question, to go through those phones, go through those tablets, goes through the Social Media, go through whatever papers they find where he was staying, whatever he had in the car to show. If they can establish that that he was there, that he was there because of the former president that he was planning to take some kind of action and dont forget the gopro. So theres that gopro on the fence. We dont know whats inside there yet, but that might reveal things he said might reveal what he was recording and pointing at my reveal whether he was transmitting it to somewhere else. So this is basically the charges that theyre going to use. They keep them in investigation is just about what youre hearing from Team Trump about this. And obviously the Social Media posts allowed him to do what he did in real time. Im out when he actually was apparently hit and 65 days ago or so in butler county, he said fight, fight, fight on his Social Media platform. Hes going to meet later today with the acting secret Service Director thats our dana. So we are told that this afternoon there is an expected meeting between the accuracy secret Service Director and Donald Trump in florida. Unclear if thats going to be at maralago or at a separate venue, but i will tell you from talking to Law Enforcement sources does that the campaign who have been briefed by various Secret Service agents, maralago right now is considered a quote, hard location, meaning that it is one of the safest places that Donald Trump could be. So he has been holed up there since yesterday. Now, what comes out of that meeting . We will wait and try to find out from our sources right now, i am told by the campaign that nothing is expected to change. He has a full week, he has an event at maralago tonight. It is a virtual event that hes going to continue to do tomorrow. He is expected to be in flint, michigan uniondale, New York on wednesday back in dc on thursday. All of those events as of this moment are still lawn sources say that the show must go on. Hes going to continue to campaign, but of course, there are a lot of questions as to what exactly comes out of this meeting with the Acting Director and turned terms of security protocol, they had already ram security to an enormou his entourage, people who are on the Golf Course with the people who are traveling with him, as well as an uptick in local Law Enforcement presence both here in West Palm Beach i also, when hes On The Road at these various campaign events. So what could they be doing differently . One of the biggest concerns that i have heard from the campaign and questions they have is how exactly this suspect was tracking where trump was going to be. Was it a coincidence . Was he following trump . Was watching his movements because that Golf Game that he had on sunday was a Lastminute Addition to his schedule. Some of his closest advisers didnt even know he was in Palm Beach. So a lot of questions right now swirling what exactly happened and how this happened thats so interesting. Usually, john miller, you can sort of add to this when a principal like this has, quote, unquote otr, Secret Service and Law Enforcement considered among the safest because people dont know, it hasnt been publicized as i bring you in on that, i also want you to talk a little bit more about this suspect what what are some red flags, if any, that you see in his profile . Well, a few first on your first question on the otrs an off the Record Appearance by a president or a former President Isnt scheduled. Know Advance Notice and you know, when i was with the new York City Police Department working with the Secret Service every time the president came to town when we did an otr together we didnt even have a visible President Presence in advance of that. That would kind of tipped people off to ask, well, whats going on or whos coming. We tried to keep this its invisible as possible. The problem with this case here, as kristen will tell you, is Donald Trump is a creature of habit and he often goes golfing and he often goes golfing on sunday and he often goes gulping on sunday. That his own clubs. So as they go backwards through this suspect, therell be looking for is there a star . Bucks across the street that hes been seen at of the last three sundays waiting for the motorcade to come in. Has he been doing reconnaissance around there to the second part of your question about his background, what jumps out . His Criminal Record goes back to 1997. But what we see is minor things no big crimes, and then theres the event in 2002 where he allegedly is in a car stop. He has a gun in his hand the officer backs off. He takes off in the car. Theres a chase, ends up in a Roofing Company which he runs into and hes barricaded there for three hours. And then when hes arrested, hes also charged with having a machine gun. So we get a picture of a guy with interest in foreign fighters, interest in foreign conflicts whos looking at different politicians, including the former president on Social Media and has affinity for guns. So he is he has a background that lends itself to this case. Really, really interesting. Thank you so much for your reporting, for your insight, for all of it to both of you, kristen and john thank you so much. And Coming Up, Donald Trumps Running Mate clings to the baseless claims about Immigrants Eating Dogs and cats in ohio The American Media totally ignored this stuff until Donald Trump and i start talking about cat memes new reporting on the real world negative impact of such comments on his constituents still go anywhere ive been saying publicly what people say and turns out you have enough money. 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And this is cnn springfield, ohio City Government canceled its annual culture fast citing recent threats and safety concerns to springfield universities have made all of their classes virtual only this week after receiving Bomb Threats and mass shooting threats, targeting Haitian American communities, i spoke with Gop Vice president ial candidate j. D. Vance yesterday, who took umbrage at the notion that his unsubstantiated claims about patient immigrants eating pets is contributing to the unrest in this town that he represents in the u. S. Senate The American Media totally ignored this stuff until Donald Trump and i start talking about cat means if i have to just do the Meme Create Stories so that The American Media actually pays attention to the suffering of the american people. Then thats what im going to do, dana, because you guys are completely letting Kamala Harris coast. You had one interview with her. You talk about pushing back against me, dana, you didnt push back against the fact that she cast the deciding vote on the inflation reduction act, which is why a lot of of americans can afford food and housing. You just said that youre creating policy said that youre creating the stores that data you just said that this is a story that youve created. So eating dog, were not, we are creating, we are dana. It comes from firsthand accounts from my constituents. I say that were creating a story, meaning were creating The American Media focusing on it. I didnt create 20,000 illegal migrants coming into springfield thanks to Kamala Harris has policies, her policies did that, but yes, we created the actual focus that allowed The American Media to talk about this story and the suffering caused by Kamala Harris has policies want to bring in my panel of terrific reporters, cnns jeff zeleny, cnns manu raju, and Jasmine Right of notice before we start this conversation, i just want to play i spoke to mayor rob rue, who represents and lives in springfield, ohio after that interview that i did with j. D vance, and i want to play part of what he said it would be helpful if they understood the weight of their words and how they could harm a community like ours. Again, i said the light has been shine so brightly that is cost. People do not even see clearly itd be helpful to like, bring peace with the words that youre saying about communities like ours, instead of unrest were listening to her constituents. Were not ignoring the problems j. D. Vance since he got to the senate, what, almost two years ago obviously, youve been covering him as well as a Vp Nominee whats your take on this . I mean, hes doing what trump does, right . He they are caught in something that is not true. They are doubling down there trying to muddy the waters, confuse the narrative and try to hope the News Cycle moves on. Its very clearly what they were trying to do that i mean, j. D. Vance is trying to have it both ways creating a Media Narrative by also saying saying that not acknowledging that its not true, but then suggesting that perhaps it is true and even suggesting that the haitians are there illegally and you call them out on that, that they are there legally. He may disagree on the policy about why theyre there. Theyre there for temporary protected status. Thats an issue that is ongoing in that community, but theyre not they are illegally, but we heard trump over the weekend too. Doing pretty much the exact same thing, despite being called out in the aftermath of his Debate Comment bigging in because they believe that immigration will be the Calling Card back to the white house. The only difference here is between another former president doing it and j. D. Vance during their his constituents. So this is something weve seen many times. Its obviously a narrative will take hold in a national campaign, a brighter light is shined on it. But when we look at this, there are republicans there. The mayor, the republican governor, saying this is not true. These refugees are working the city of course, has its challenges, but this isnt true. So and part about all this is that Senator Vance is is creating this narrative for his own constituents and just you saw him just meandering through your great interview with him, dana and its no question this is a red county. Donald trump will almost certainly win this county, but it will be fascinating to go back and look after the election to see if this has any impact on it all because the rhetoric is just extraordinary, but theyre his constituent, i think even beyond the rhetoric, these are real people that hes kind of throwing under the bus, right . Not just the cultural Arts Festival is being canceled. People are keeping their children home from school multiple parts of the local government shutting down because of threats of violence that theyre getting. And frankly, these two republican candidates are not exactly denouncing and so not only these constituents, but these are very real people who are experiencing a terrible time. And i dont think that the republican party, particularly these two candidates, have said anything about the real feel, fear that these migrants are experiencing these legal migrants while its not. And again, its the migrants, but also the broader community now has fear and not only did they not say anything theyre attacking the media me and i was the person who was obviously at the other end of that interview. So it was me in that instance for suggesting that they were responsible. Meanwhile, in in milligals, springfield, ohio, it is the people who are there who are saying that these federal officials are responsible and it is bringing out the ugliness that has already just below the surface. And that is the unsaid part of this Mike Dewine, the governor, you referred to him. He was hes very much in favor of these haitian migrants being there. He acknowledges that more needs to be done to help integrate them into the community, gave the community more resources. But he says theyre Feeling Jobs that employers need to be filled. He also yesterday talked about kkk flyers fires that are purportedly out there being shown around. We saw that there were allegedly proud boys marching, or at least that was what was reported to the police. There. Yeah. I mean the concerns that Mike Dewine is voicing are pretty loud and clear. I mean, he is a republican governor. Hes making it he is supported Donald Trump. He is in line with j. D vance on a lot of issues. He doesnt want this rhetoric to continue because of the real fears that this is causing in his community. And as you tried to put it, the j. D. Vance about this over and over again about this. He seemed to discard the idea that its not the media are raising concerns about this is his own party, his own republican governor, but that seems to be something that they are conveniently trying to overlook. And yet, what has not been on the front page until for for many, many months until they made up the story apparently about cats and dogs being eaten immigration. Things seem to be calmer at the border and so what have they done they have certainly not gotten the. Kind of reporting and the kind of stories that they were hoping to get with regard to you know, kind of dangerous out there that are really happening but this is clearly part of their strategy. Without question. I mean, theres always part of a strategy here when the former president s involved in what he says, and this is exactly part of the strategy to inject sort of a darker side of the Immigration Conversation into the campaign. It is not really fallen out. I mean, its a top issue for so many hey, voters look at the ads that the Trump Campaign is running here. A blaming Vice President harris for so many things, but the former president often has a hard time sort of staying on message in delivering that attack. But this is a way to sort of expand the Immigration Conversation but the bigger point is if he visits there as some of his advisers have said, he might imagine, sort of a the fallout from that so the bottom line is the people of Springfield And Ohio are not done any service by this external conversation. Okay. Dont go anywhere, dont go far because Coming Up what is next for the congressional Task Force that has already looking at the first Assassination Attempt on Donald Trumps life, are republican member of that Task Force, congressman Mike Waltz for being here premieres sunday at nine On Cnn for more than a decade. Or sega has been trusted again and again and they did doctor about for sega have to cut Divide Pac Drive Plant Scale meant, well feed, feed, feed, your honor. Thank you in snap, stop glow, map, sin rule wrap, drop, drop and hall. Only in a single day, then you just have to get in the seat the new John Deere Gator suv, learn more at your John Deere dealer. 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One thing i wanted to make clear service for her bonta to respond to their needs back worked for every talks about republican congressman Mike Waltz of florida joins me now he is a member of the Task Force on the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, which was formed in july. Hes also a close ally of the former president. Thank you so much for being here for them. You told me that you played this course before not with Donald Trump, but you played this course before given that and the calls that youve been on with the Secret Service and other officials, what can you tell us about what youre learning well, one of the reasons i think the shooter chose that location was that its a known place for photographers for Povlohrad Tsay and for others to go to that fifth whole, its kind of buttonholed into a tight space right there near the road i dont know for sure, but ive had other agents telling me that a been on Golf Course details that they always clear that Tree Line in the bubble ahead of the president. It looks like thats what the agent heroically did. And good on him for taking decisive action and taking the shooter down. I also want to praise both the florida sheriffs and the Secret Service, the Acting Director for immediately going to a problem press conference. I think this is a tell the public what you know, as you know, it immediately, given that were in the heat of the campaign and given this is to Assassination Attempts in just two months, its, its really mindblowing. And then thirdly, the fbi is taking a different posture. The fbi is theyre drawing a line between the secret and the fbi. The service is looking at their internal failures as It Led up to butler and now will be looking at any failures as It Led up to yesterday. But the fbi is looking at the background of the shooters the encrypted accounts, the motives, and theyre taking a its under investigation. We Cant Talk about it. Posture i think thats unacceptable. They need to be more forthcoming. And when you layer on top of that, that we have foreign threats that we have an adversary of the united states, iran openly talking about killing a leading political candidate. You want to talk about Election Interference and i just have to say, weve heard nothing from the administration. Im glad President Biden called for more resources, but we need consequences for iran, for its ongoing plots to kill the presence as well. And weve heard nothing from Biden Nor Harris in terms of consequences and deterrence to get iran to stop. So we need to hear more from them is what youre saying. I want to go back to the Fbi Point that you made just to play devils advocate. Like if im if i would have asked that question to the fbi, my sense is that what they will say is we dont want to threaten the investigation. Were trying to figure out exactly what the backstory is and we want to make sure that we have the most tightest case against him. And also the information that we need perhaps theres no evidence of this now, but im just saying like, if this guy was not working alone or if there are other elements that they just dont know about. Yeah. Well, well remember the secret Service Director Cheatle Kind of took that approach. I Cant Talk about it. And that was totally unacceptable to congress and to the american people well, i think this is such a unique moment in american history and so dangerous. We talk a lot about threats to democracy if President Trump had at his head blown off on national television just before the republican national convention, with no candidate. I just cant even imagine the society and the fabric of america coming unglued. And when you have potential foreign actors involved here, look in an information vacuum. Others are going to fill the space. And i think this is a moment break your established protocols and tell the american people what you know or what you dont know, even if if you have to go back and correct it later, more information is better for the public, not just private briefings for people like you. Absolutely and ive received a briefing from the secret Service Director thursday, and i immediately told the media that the last laugh about the last assassination, what i knew when i knew it i want to play for you. You talked about the police. Who did it super job down in florida i want to play for you something that Sheriff Bradshaw said about the way that the Secret Service protects Donald Trump, right . This level that he is at right now, hes not the sitting president if he was, we would have this hire a Golf Course around it what . Because hes not purity is limited to the areas that the Secret Service deems possible. The Secret Service did exactly what they should have done need to change the fact that beginning of what he said that if he were a sitting president , the course would have been surrounded. I mean its Donald Trump. The threats are fast than we have. We even know about two things here. One the secret Service Director brief the Task Force last week that they had increased the level of protection for both Trump And Harris to the same level as biden. Yet, were hearing that disconnect from from the Palm Beach county sheriff. So that doesnt make Sense And Weve asked for clarification to come brief us this week. And then number two, look, i think both the Secret Service and the fbi have to get out of this paradigm of you get this when youre the current president and you get this when youre a fool. Former i mean, i think that makes sense if maybe youre jimmy Carter Or W bush, that its painting and live in a retired life but it needs to match the threat. And if the threat is clearly greater than a sitting president or Vice President or anything with the iranian threats. Plus these domestic threats then you need to get the president whatever protection he needs, period, to match the threat, not these established protocols and what agents are telling me is that its a Budget Issue that dhs and mayorkas set the budget and they dont want to blow up the budget by because President Trump has multiple well residences, plays golf, and as an active campaigner, thats nonsense they need to give him every protection, everything you needed, and come to congress. If you need more, you just heard President Biden say that the Secret Service needs more Help And Congress should respond. So it sounds like there is a brief blip of bipartisanship on this, which is incredibly important. Thank you so much for sharing that. And the fact that there was a disconnect is news and obviously something that were also sure. Follow up on just as you our thanks, congress much, maam. All right. Shade. It will be e right Back Pros for Have I Got News For You . 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Now, uncertainty in this that this time in the race is a bit unorthodox, but the union typically does back the democratic nominee after the party conventions. My panel is back to discuss and jeff zeleny, i just got a note from Sean Obrien who runs the teamsters saying of course they are meeting not just him, but the Executive Board will meet with her. Then theyre going to have some internal discussions, look at some of the polling, look at some of the internal information, get tried to get a consensus and we might have a decision on whether theyre going to endorse anybody. And if that person will be Kamala Harris. And if they do if it matters, i mean, we saw Sean Obrien at the republic can convention, which was very unusual to see the Teamsters President there. So this is something that both campaigns are fighting for. Obviously both sides would love to have it or would love them to stay neutral. But i think increasingly the Rank And File does not follow the leadership of the union for the harris campaign. They absolutely want this and this will be a if she gets this endorsement, i think its a big sign that the electoral effects of it, who knows, we dont know the answer to that, but it would be one more sort of confidence boosting exercise for her. Is it too late to have any real major impact as well . Because as you noted, typically this happens earlier in the cycle oh, theres theyre making organize, perhaps earlier, right . And thats what theyre looking. It would have been helped. This interview happened two weeks ago, right directly after the convention. But of course there were some sore feelings after he was at the republican convention, particularly with biden and his aides and maybe some of that lingered over to the harris campaign. But harris is really working for this because this is not what she is known for. Shes not union joe wright, shes not known to be the ally of union members, No Matter the fact that she chaired a Task Force on unions for her three years at the vice as Vice President , that she did work with seiu back in california, but this is not what shes known as. This would be huge get for the Vice President No Matter what time its happening in the really working hard to try to achieve it and not for nothing unions are now much more diverse than they used to be. But if you look at the demographic that she is struggling with, its white men big time. I mean, white from the latest pew poll, white men without a college, but white people without a College Degree. She trails 30 he five to 60 for Donald Trump, white men in particular, 39 to 59. And look overall to the baton versus women, there was a significant gender gap. Harris is doing much better with women voters, but the campaign knows that they have to close that margin with male voters, not just white working class voters, not just people who dont have a College Degree but overall, so what is their strategy . Perhaps its making, make a difference. But as jeff says, maybe not much difference. A certainly better late than never when you look at the nuts and bolts of Organizing And Doorknocking and i mean, if the leadership is on board doesnt that tend to be sure because i think Tomatoes Point for organizers of organizing, it wouldve been helpful earlier, but you can bet direct mail will be coming directly at the time when people are beginning to early vote and other things. So without a doubt, better late than never, but theres still may not be endorsement in even if there is, we dont know the actual impact of it. But itll be fascinating, i think for harris, if she gets it, that is just one more sign of momentum for her, but the output, the actual effect, who knows, i think for a campaign that recognizes that this win, if they do win, comes down to the margins. Theyre really trying to scrape any place that they can turn over every stone. I think that these are this is one of the importance, particularly when you talk about white men and white people in general, something that the Vice President doesnt automatically connect no. And i think its important what you underscored, it is possible that the teamsters just will not endorse will now soon. Thanks, everybody. Now, over the weekend, Donald Trump posted on Social Media how he really feels about taylor swift, but is saying it in a tweet a copout now way to network. 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